A better animation is not everything, the modern version lacks in design & class, and Duke Fleed looks like a K-Pop singer... I'll stick to the classic, thank you !!
What's funny about this is in the 1970s character designs were light years better compared to today's weird one week doujenshi/h-game level designs. They should've learned a few things from Yamato 2199 modernize BUT stay faithful to the original.
Yes and no, by today they look diferent but on those year they where very recycle, dont believe see, devilman first anime, getter, kitetsu jeeg, tekaman and many mora, they called it the toei protagonist
Scusate se mi esprimo in italiano. Trovo questo confronto assolutamente impietoso: paragonare la versione del 1975 con quella del 2024 è come paragonare il Colosseo ad un souvenir comprato ad una bancarella.
L'italiano va benissimo! 😀 Commento approvato al 100%. Non si può paragonare un capolavoro a un rifacimento senz'anima (o dovrei dire senz'anime?🤔). Realizzare buoni prodotti, riprendendo i classici del passato, è fattibile (vedi Mazinga Z Infinity) ma ci vuole passione, tanta passione...
i agree completely Duke's eyes look so focused in 1975 version the tone is more serious and somehow the darker, more shadows in the art, in the older one.
All that's missing is the classic Duke Fleed soundtrack, even in an homage during one of these launches in U. I'm just pleased to see Grendizer get some attention after such a long time of MazingerMazingerMazinger and GetterRoboGetterRoboGetterRobo shows.
of course I will choose the 1975, UFO robot Grendizer 1975 and ashita no JOE 1980 are number one if I compare it with any anime,, generally I prefer animes 70s and 80s and 90z👍
Incomparable!!!!... The old version will remain the best to watch!!!... The new version, it looks like Actarus is... 14 years old!!...😵😵😵😵 Whereas with the old version, he was already a man in his twenties!!... I stay on the old version !!... 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Correct ! Actually Actarus looks like a wimp in this version, he's slim and looks weak not to say a little gay, he's always crying, whereas in the old version he's muscular, he's indeed a little older, he's got wisdom and he always gets his revenge wihout having to be all wimpy all the time. That truly bothers me.
this made me appreciate more than before for the classic.. on the contrary, at least the new grendizer u is still better than modern mazinger z (not the one in grendizer u)
I was born in 1976, just to be old enough to see Grendizer in the italian version (probably the first anime to land in Italy)... ... there is no comparison. The OG Duke Fleed appeared older, much sad inside for the loss of his original planet (actually lost in a war he could not fight in time) but resolute and unbreakable in will, to defend Earth as his adopted place. And also had Grendizer as an actual co-protagonist, as there were ALWAYS a fight against a Vega's robot monster each episode, and each one had its own "fight plot/tactic", in which you could sense some stakes to actually achieve victory for Grendizer Grendizer U has some cool visuals (I like the refreshed mecha-design) but... dunno... it is flat as storytelling: not focusing realling on fights, not really going deep in the character development/emotions (probably also by the less number of episodes to actually build a more developed story), with a kid/younger Duke that, actually, put his planet in disarray by himself, in a fit of rage/mental breakdown when he could not take full control of Grendizer. Grendizer U: 6/10 overall (decent, watchable, but... something is missing...) Grendizer OG: 12345678987654321/10. Larger than life, maybe less iconic in Go-Nagai mind (his first born is Mazinger), but at the time the one with most maturity in the development (... coming after the full development of Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger stories)... ... and the italian dub version is THE BEST one in the world and exponentially elevated the scale. For each Grendizer U episode, I keep earing in my mind the ICONIC Italian Duke's voice (deep, powerful and explosive) of Romano Malaspina!!!
Duke Fleed (aka Actarus) looks like a wimp in this version, he's slim, too young, and looks weak not to say a little gay, he's always crying, whereas in the old version he's muscular, he's a man, he's older and an experienced warrior, he's got wisdom and he always gets his revenge without having to be all wimpy all the time. The music in this new show suck balls compare to the old one too. The story goes way too fast, no character devellopment, and what's the point of having a shitload of Girl bosses in this version ?? There everywhere !
INCREDIBILE 50 di differenza per far sembrare il Vintage del 75 ATTUALE e l attuale indietro di 50 anni😂😂😂il Goldrake del 75 x colori semplicità musica intensità adrenalina è SUPERIORE 100 VOLTE
The new Duke Fleed is a little boy with no charm and depht, the classic one was a beautiful and irresistible character, more mature and romantic. Shingo Araki and Kazuo Komatsubara's designs are too superior, there is no comparison. On the contrary, the new Grendizer is very well done.
- Un minuto di silenzio per la morte del gusto estetico. ACTARUS tutta la vita. - A minute of silence for the death of aesthetic taste. '70s hands down.
Part of nostalgia make me prefer the 70's version but I like the body suit transformation in the new one, the rest is ok. BTW nice to see Grendizer/Goldorak flying again in the 2020's sky
I appreciate that the modern remake can make younger generations discover Grendizer... but maybe it's me being too old school, but I can't get into the new character design. Duke Fleet now looks like a random anime high schooler, instead of the badass handsome man he was in the classic.
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There s no competition here. The classic one wins hands down
true as much as i want to like the new one, the classic is still better drawn.
in grendizer u he looks like his in his pre-teen years.
it’s like "dragon ball the w-new version" and other reboot.; the heroes have a physic like a child.; I don’t like
@@ashwolf2006actually, based on the wiki, duke Fleed should be around 20
I agree 100%
The first Duke Fleed is much more badass, beautiful and athletic.
Vero. True.
本人そう言うてはるし
I've always found him handsome and sexy (but that depended on who was drawing him) 🥰
I was ten and it was my very first crush 💘
Totally agree, old Anime as 70-90's are the best
The new one is woke
Non c'è competizione ne per design,ne per musica,ne per altro . Grendizer 1975 per sempre ❤️
Poi vuoi mettere Romano Malaspina?
Il vero Actarus, hippie e intellettuale anni 70...mitico e atletico!
Concordo, la nuova versione di Actarus sembra un ragazzino peraltro....
The old music was ICONIC ❤
The old version Duke fleed was a man, the new one he is just a boy ! He Doesn' t convey experience of battle and confidence like the first Duke!
旧作の重厚感が素晴らしい。
新作は 老舗ラーメン屋が復活オープンしたから 看板メニューのコッテリ味噌ラーメン頼んだら 薄味の塩ラーメン出てきた気分です
もっと濃厚なんですよね旧作全てが ドッシリ、ズッシリ
that ramen comparison was so mean, but it's true lol
What a Shame, after more than 50 years they make it worse in drawing, music, motion excitement and everything
The old one is definitely better.
The beautiful memories we lived are enough and will not be repeated
There will never ever be anything better than the original Grendizer, when just the music gets grown men in their 40s to tear up that means a lot.
A better animation is not everything, the modern version lacks in design & class, and Duke Fleed looks like a K-Pop singer... I'll stick to the classic, thank you !!
KｰPOPは草w
Original animation looks better. New one looks strange, also new Duke looks too young
😂😂😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
True
No doubt!!!!! First version!!!!!
Grendizer goooo!!!!!🤜
なんだろう。確かにデザインはスタイリッシュで格好良くなってるのに、動いていると昔の映像の方が格好良く見える不思議な感覚は
同じことを思った
製作陣の意識が出てるかもしれませんね。やっぱ主人公こうだ、子どもがカッコよく感じるよう描こうという気持ちが奥底にあったかもしれません。
現代はオシャレにスマートな感じに仕上げたいという感覚じゃないでしょうか。作り手が「子どもたちが喜ぶようにしよう」という考えも減ってるのではないでしょうか。
@@maradona10god 結局『大人向けアニメ』だからねぇ😅
味気ないよね
ほんとに
ヤマトのイメージモデルと同じでCGでは表現出来ないところがあるのかな？
今のヤマトのリメイクも制作側で議論されてたと聞く。
グレンダイザーが滝を割って出現する瞬間、水圧で一瞬下降してから急上昇する。芸が細かい！
Exactly, that's what I felt when I saw it. Also the look in daisuke's eyes just before entering the water.
@@hosammohamed2289 おおお、ほんとだ。滝を通して入ってくる光で顔が照らされるから、チラチラとランダムに光るんですよね。
Bonne remarque !
ok thanks ! Old version is approximatively 100 000x better in all aspect... (music, design, camera, etc.)
Totally agree!
After more than 50 years, instead of getting better it become much worse
富山敬さんの声がいいです。
👍😔👍👍
グレンダイザーゴーの言い方が素晴らしい。武器の名前を言う時も。
今のUが凄く力入れてやってるのも分かるケド、75年版の隠し通路に入るシーンの作画凄すぎない…？
それはそうと、光子力研究所の第7ハンガーって、確かグレンダイザーよりヤバい奴があった筈だけど………😅
@@satoottoそこにはハンガーの隅っこで椅子に座ってる皇帝が
@@satootto 活躍に嫉妬して皇帝が目覚めるんだろう
Meglio quello vecchio in tutto.
@@satoottoこれは宇宙科学研究所じゃないんですか？
やっぱりオリジナルは画力とアフレコカッコいい🎉🎉🎉
the sound Grendizer makes when it flies is better in 75
What a Shame, after more than 50 years they make it worse in drawing, music, motion excitement and everything
新作見たけどコレジャナイ感が半端無かった・・・
どうしても富山敬さんの声でしか脳内再生できないのです…
完全にイメージ定着してますよね😊、自分も同意見です。
分かります(´；ω；`)
そういう世代なのだと自覚はあるけど
こんな腰の入ってない「デュークフリード」のコールじゃ変身できっこない😣
😊😊😊😊😊
Definitely the classic one 🔥 is a winner 🏆, at least they could do a better OST in this scene 😄
i agree 100% I wish they did better with OST or just revamp it
What a Shame, after more than 50 years they make it worse in drawing, music, motion excitement and everything
@@moradghanim2717 I agree 100%
富山敬氏のデューク・フリードはいいなぁ～！
自分も同意見です。
@@武志山口-o2q 私も冨山敬さん大好きでした やはり冨山敬さんですよね 新しいの絵から好きじゃないから┐(´ー｀)┌
やっぱり昔の方が断然いいな。
声も映像も。新しい方は綺麗やけどなんか味がないんだよなぁ〜。
What a Shame, after more than 50 years they make it worse in drawing, music, motion excitement and everything
@@スキピオオオミニクス そうですよね もう絵から違うんですよね 何であんなに変えるかなあ 全然別物じゃん 今の子は知らないのわかるけど変わりすぎ┐(´ー｀)┌
やっぱり音楽はオリジナルを使って欲しいね。
What's funny about this is in the 1970s character designs were light years better compared to today's weird one week doujenshi/h-game level designs. They should've learned a few things from Yamato 2199 modernize BUT stay faithful to the original.
Totally agree, Yamato 2199 is how to modernize an old anime. The old Duke Fleed was so much better in every way.
Yes and no, by today they look diferent but on those year they where very recycle, dont believe see, devilman first anime, getter, kitetsu jeeg, tekaman and many mora, they called it the toei protagonist
@@juliox9 All those shows you mentioned are light years more fun than U.
@@Q80Warlock talking about the desing of the characters like you did not the show itself
Nothing better than the classic it's not just because it classic but its because its better. That's my opinion
こうして見比べると、新作も旧作の雰囲気をうまく再現してると思います。
ただ個人的な感想としては、当然新作の方が画はキレイですが旧作の作り込みの凄さに改めて驚かされる形になりましたね。
💪Vero.. Per quei tempi Grendizer era molto curato
There’s only one Gendizer,…the original one.
amen
the original one was actually a movie and the design was different and was called Uchu Enban Daisenso, Grandizer wasn't even an original concept
@@DevilRaptorB WTF are you talking about ??
@@longann7560 WTF did you not understand?
やはり俊輔節は気分が高揚しますね😸
デューク・フリードをなぜ華奢なガキにしてしまった？
顔の濃さもそうだし、何より体格がね…
骨太で強そうな旧作に比べて、Uは明らかに弱っちそうに見える
こいつ荒木伸吾作画のデューク見たら呼吸困難起こしてそう
What a Shame, after more than 50 years they make it worse in drawing, music, motion excitement and everything
昔のロボアニメ主人公って少年の憧れのナイスガイだったのだろうけど、いまの主人公って情緒不安定で悩んでばかりいいる「大丈夫か?」って感じのばかり。憧れより共感という事なのかも知れんが、爽快感を求めて見てるのに、アニメを見てまでウダウダ悩みたくないね。
@@Kakube
少なくとも勧善懲悪ロボアニメの主人公は、逞しい熱血漢であって欲しいですね。
ダストシュートから入って出撃する斬新さよ！
ジジイとしては，やっぱり小松原，荒木キャラのデューク・フリードが好きだなあ。
画像は新しい方がやはり？綺麗な感じがしますが古い方が音楽、声優さんの声の力強さを感じ自分は古いバージョンの方が好きですね
デュークフリードの
新しい方は少し弱そうな印象受けました
何でエヴァンゲリヲン風? この絵が嫌い🤮
Feast of Wolves did this better than the reboot. But the reboot’s take on this scene is really good.
やっぱり旧作かな～😊、グレンダイザーはデザインが同じだけどデュークフ リード(宇門大介)に旧作の面影がない😅だから自分は旧作が良い。
そしてデュークフリードの声は富山敬さんしかいない‼️。
そうですね 私も昭和のグレンダイザーの方が好き❤ 温かいんだよ 燃える愛の星の歌が大好きです😊
the old one is legendary!
Scusate se mi esprimo in italiano. Trovo questo confronto assolutamente impietoso: paragonare la versione del 1975 con quella del 2024 è come paragonare il Colosseo ad un souvenir comprato ad una bancarella.
L'italiano va benissimo! 😀
Commento approvato al 100%.
Non si può paragonare un capolavoro a un rifacimento senz'anima (o dovrei dire senz'anime?🤔).
Realizzare buoni prodotti, riprendendo i classici del passato, è fattibile (vedi Mazinga Z Infinity) ma ci vuole passione, tanta passione...
What a Shame, after more than 50 years they make it worse in drawing, music, motion excitement and everything
Goldrake anni 70 migliore 1000000 di volte ❤
Nothing beat Duke 75, feel the life in it in each scene.
富山敬の声がついてるだけで、カッコ良さのレベルが違う。
自分同意見です。
@@anzuluna0922 やはり冨山敬さんですよね乁༼☯‿☯✿༽ㄏ
この動画にはないけど、武器とか技とか使っているシーンを見ると本当にそう
Grendizer of my childhood is 99% soundtrack 01% everything else
So classic one wins no competition here
Granted !
طبعا النسخة القديمة افضل بكثير من الجديدة
Old is gold❤
Non ci sono dubbi, l'edizione originale è il top❤🎉
綺麗なだけで無味無臭。昔の作品には戦う男の説得力があった。
戦争からまだ20年30年やもんな。
i agree completely
Duke's eyes look so focused in 1975 version
the tone is more serious and somehow the darker, more shadows in the art, in the older one.
@@DeadPig325
えっと、私も完全に同じ意見で、1975年に作られたのをこの眼で見て
もっと深刻な心情で暗さのあるトーンで描けみたいな事なのかな？
私、中学から英語脱落してるので難しいです笑
Vince a mani basse la versione degli anni 70 , senza se senza ma.
Its nice to see they stick to original transfromation
1:29 What the heck was that water animation?
Looks like a POV going through the hangar before going out from the waterfall
All that's missing is the classic Duke Fleed soundtrack, even in an homage during one of these launches in U. I'm just pleased to see Grendizer get some attention after such a long time of MazingerMazingerMazinger and GetterRoboGetterRoboGetterRobo shows.
1974 shining like a star ⭐️
Everything in the classic version is far superior to the souless remake they dished out.
Je fais partie de la première génération à voir des animés en dehors du Japon. Grandizer était le premier animé que j ai vu c était en 1979❤
旧作は落ち着いたお兄さんって感じで、新作はまだまだ少年って感じですね。
今時の流行りに合わせたら主人公は少年でなければ受けないんだろうなぁ。
No way!!! The old one it's unique and incomparable...
the 50 years old version is by far the best!
Tellement plus de detail dans l’ancienne version
of course I will choose the 1975, UFO robot Grendizer 1975 and ashita no JOE 1980 are number one if I compare it with any anime,, generally I prefer animes 70s and 80s and 90z👍
new Grendizer is badass, but seriously making a kid a Duke Fleed... he was so badass as an adult man!
che sia del 1977 o del 2024 una cosa è certa, è sempre una gran figata.
Incomparable!!!!... The old version will remain the best to watch!!!... The new version, it looks like Actarus is... 14 years old!!...😵😵😵😵
Whereas with the old version, he was already a man in his twenties!!...
I stay on the old version !!... 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Correct ! Actually Actarus looks like a wimp in this version, he's slim and looks weak not to say a little gay, he's always crying, whereas in the old version he's muscular, he's indeed a little older, he's got wisdom and he always gets his revenge wihout having to be all wimpy all the time. That truly bothers me.
冨山敬さんの声が力強くて良いわあ❤
Long long ago...once upon time Grendizer best of best animation ...forever
Il primo, inimitabile carismatico, l'altro non mi dice niente.
La version original est un must absolu le dessin la musique les bruitages la bande originale de l opening ect...go nagai un génie 😱
Nothing would beat the original release
作画レベルに差があるな（昭和の勝ち）
Japan and Hollywood have not yet been able to do something like grendizer 1975......
It shows one thing: Technology isn't everything
@@speedsterhAbsolutly، That's right
I like the older one. He looks like a little kid in the new version.
Franchement l’ancienne version n’a pas à rougir de la nouvelle
Ils étaient vraiment précurseurs sur la première version😊
I enjoyed the old version, the old duke was more confident and mentally stronger.
小松原一男さん作画（劇場版 銀河鉄道999 風の谷のナウシカなど）画力が圧倒的に上でかなうはずがない。他ルパン三世のカリオストロのカーチェイスを描いた友永和秀さんやイデオンの湖川友謙さんベルサイユのばらや聖闘士星矢の荒木伸吾さん姫野美智さんで絵の上手い人だらけなのでリメイクファンの人には申し訳ないけど比較してはいけないと思う。
this made me appreciate more than before for the classic..
on the contrary, at least the new grendizer u is still better than modern mazinger z (not the one in grendizer u)
There Is an abyss, old style remain the top 😊
The new one cannot even dream of competing with the original version!
Musique mythique, animé qui a bercé mon enfance ❤❤😊
ジェット付のコースターで行く必然は全くないね 危ないし(笑)
でもそれがいい 子供心に燃える絵でした
Duke Fleed HENSHIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!
Don't forget our favourite 3rd super robot in spazer Cross
the 1975 one is unmatchable
I was born in 1976, just to be old enough to see Grendizer in the italian version (probably the first anime to land in Italy)...
... there is no comparison.
The OG Duke Fleed appeared older, much sad inside for the loss of his original planet (actually lost in a war he could not fight in time) but resolute and unbreakable in will, to defend Earth as his adopted place. And also had Grendizer as an actual co-protagonist, as there were ALWAYS a fight against a Vega's robot monster each episode, and each one had its own "fight plot/tactic", in which you could sense some stakes to actually achieve victory for Grendizer
Grendizer U has some cool visuals (I like the refreshed mecha-design) but... dunno... it is flat as storytelling: not focusing realling on fights, not really going deep in the character development/emotions (probably also by the less number of episodes to actually build a more developed story), with a kid/younger Duke that, actually, put his planet in disarray by himself, in a fit of rage/mental breakdown when he could not take full control of Grendizer.
Grendizer U: 6/10 overall (decent, watchable, but... something is missing...)
Grendizer OG: 12345678987654321/10. Larger than life, maybe less iconic in Go-Nagai mind (his first born is Mazinger), but at the time the one with most maturity in the development (... coming after the full development of Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger stories)...
... and the italian dub version is THE BEST one in the world and exponentially elevated the scale. For each Grendizer U episode, I keep earing in my mind the ICONIC Italian Duke's voice (deep, powerful and explosive) of Romano Malaspina!!!
全体的には旧作の方が良いかな。
ただ、発進するグレンダイザーは、新作の方が重厚感みたいなのがあって好き❤️
The mx transformation is still good to me
1975年版がベスト盤です。 ジハード・アル・アトラシュはアラビア語でダイスケとデューク・フリードの声を担当しています。最高です、ぜひ聴いてみてください。
Duke Fleed (aka Actarus) looks like a wimp in this version, he's slim, too young, and looks weak not to say a little gay, he's always crying, whereas in the old version he's muscular, he's a man, he's older and an experienced warrior, he's got wisdom and he always gets his revenge without having to be all wimpy all the time. The music in this new show suck balls compare to the old one too. The story goes way too fast, no character devellopment, and what's the point of having a shitload of Girl bosses in this version ?? There everywhere !
Grendizer spazer cross is my favourite launch phases what if grendizer u is in super robot wars? What will gridman and everyone crossover reacts?
Rien ne sera meilleur que l'original 1975 lm😊
Old is Gold.🥲
Old is Gold
Duke Fleed ❤
INCREDIBILE 50 di differenza per far sembrare il Vintage del 75 ATTUALE e l attuale indietro di 50 anni😂😂😂il Goldrake del 75 x colori semplicità musica intensità adrenalina è SUPERIORE 100 VOLTE
L originale restera a jamais le meilleur ❤
Route 7 was my favorite 🔥
It’s the best days when we watched before
Poor grendizer…what the end!😢
Classic for sure!!!
Actarus from the 70's is the best of the best
OG dizer is still the GOAT
Forever and always 👑
What? There is a remake of some sort? Info please! 😍
I really don't know but every time I see this old scene I feel so happy like it was me but the new scene it makes me say wtf happened kid 😂😂😂
is it just me? 1975 version have more details and it is more fluid than the 2024 version.
The new Duke Fleed is a little boy with no charm and depht, the classic one was a beautiful and irresistible character, more mature and romantic. Shingo Araki and Kazuo Komatsubara's designs are too superior, there is no comparison. On the contrary, the new Grendizer is very well done.
autant il y avait du charisme dans la version original alors que là nouvelle version on y croit pas nul
Personnellement, je pense le contraire...
- Un minuto di silenzio per la morte del gusto estetico. ACTARUS tutta la vita.
- A minute of silence for the death of aesthetic taste. '70s hands down.
Part of nostalgia make me prefer the 70's version but I like the body suit transformation in the new one, the rest is ok. BTW nice to see Grendizer/Goldorak flying again in the 2020's sky
I appreciate that the modern remake can make younger generations discover Grendizer... but maybe it's me being too old school, but I can't get into the new character design. Duke Fleet now looks like a random anime high schooler, instead of the badass handsome man he was in the classic.