Receive an Amazing New Player Pack, only available for the next 30 days! Play Call of War for FREE on PC or Mobile: 💥 callofwar.onelink.me/q5L6/TPP001 Sources: docs.google.com/document/d/18Z4aAVufNZIa-u6zXqyuWuIBoQbVLHVCLQOWRLQMLEk/edit?usp=sharing Corrections: At 5:13 I put the flag upside down, don't know how that happened, the Dutch must be too strong. Sorry!
I've been watching the video for about six minutes now and I have to say it's of great quality. Unfortunately I must point out a mistake: at 5:13 the flag is wrong. The flag of Yugoslavia was blue white and red. Thank you in advance for any future correction or for the future recognition of the mistake!
@@ThePresentPast_listening to your accent i suspect your dutch? Maybe a video about dutchbat's role within the war? As there was no mention of it here
6:55 you said just how many the victims that we have name of but not that there was found in research that was not finished more than 300 thousand and was estimated anywhere between 700 thousand and 1.2 million. Ustaše were the ones that were praising themselves to Germany about killing around 1.2 million in there( this is very upper limit is from) but German executives thought it's to much and estimated little short of million and even that is more than 10 times more of what you said.
As someone from an ex Yugoslav country, after watching countless videos made by foreigners about Yugoslavia, I came to the conclusion that only we from the Balkan, can make a video that represents the real situation, every foreigner is always missing some key elements.
@@mkpodkasti227 mogli bismo, kad bi seli zdravorazumski ljudi sa sve 3 strane, stavile sve cinjenice na papir i maksimalno otvoreno pristupili problematici.
The Balkans are beyond gorgeous, Middle Earth itself, and the residents of Belgrade once saved my life. I got robbed and stranded, deep inside Serbia, by a Brit from whom I had accepted a ride to Greece. Four-day walk back to Belgrade, in shock when I arrived, with no ID. And, of course, the language barrier. They found someone who spoke decent French. Belgrade then fed me, gave me a bed and a shower, and the next day AMEX managed to redeem all of my cashier's checks before he could cash them. (I had memorized the serial#s.) Belgrade, you're my home. I have loved you, with all my heart, for decades. Thank you for saving my life. ❤
funny thing, I remember reading an interview with Robert De Niro, it had to be the late eighties, where he told a Yugoslav journalist that when he was a college student he went for a trip through Europe and managed to spend most of his money halfway through. He was on a train in Bosnia when he met a local who took pity on him and brought him to his home in Sarajevo. The family fed him and got him a bed to sleep. He stayed there for several days and by the time he decided to leave he was already friends with those people. They even gave him some pocket money. The journalist then asked him if he ever went back to meet them at which he answered, a bit embarrassed, that no, he never got the chance.
Its a video game dude. Being sponsored by a war video game doesnt mean you support war. Dont try to find a reason to complain and judge everywhere you possibly can.
yes there is an irony... but this half hour video, although being concise, hits the target. Yugoslavia might have been product of its time but if you look back long enough it was the wish of almost all Slavs living in this region. The problem is that it came too late to build YU identity and both Yugoslavias failed doing that one with King Alexander and another with Tito. As someone who grew up in that country, I can just say that in many ways it was a good country to live in, and also that I am very, very sorry that it ended up in a bloody war.
I too found irony in the end of the video where discussions of “war torn” countries is juxtaposed by a game called “call of war”… but, thus is the nature of youtube sponsorships and I cannot blame the creator for taking money where its available!
As a Bosnian-Herzegovinian, it's hard to feel connected. Youths are poisoned by ideas of hate, and they will grow up and pass on the same ideas. There is hope, if we forget the criminals from the past, recognize the crimes and continue with our lives.
Why I am not suppressed that a Dutch UA-camr doesn't even mentions, that at Srebrencia Dutch peacekeepers run away cowardly during the night?! Greatest example of Western commitment...
Pot calling the kettle black there. If you have to criticize so badly on somebody providing incomplete information, why don't you add into your criticism the fact that the US, France, and the UK decided against providing the aerial support Dutchbat needed so much, because the English and French were afraid Mladic would take French and British soldiers hostage? Air strikes were used after the fall of Srebrenica, and were proven to be effective. If that would have happened just weeks earlier, it could have saved a lot of lives and trauma. It might still say something about western commitment, but there wasn't an awful lot Dutchbat could do at the time but to retreat. But I'm guessing that doesn't fit your narrative, does it?
There's a rumour with a few evidences that the muslim side aranged with the british alowence of a bigger war crime in order to get international help so they provoked lokal Serbs braking peace agreement and than pulled back the Duch UN squad. The rest is known. Many Bosnians blame Izetbegovic
@@jdjphotographynl Top UN officials, Brit. & Fr., decided that Srebrenica has to happen - and Bihać, but they were 3 hours late - that's the reason why they removed UN armies and weaponry from Bosnia on fields around Tomislavgrad, Croatian place with no threat from any side, "to make some military exercise". Also they brought new armies called RRF, but it wasn't brought to defend civilians either.
From someone who's dad went to this war in his 20s, with a group of men in their 20s. Friends and buddies. I can tell you, they never wanted this fight, from my young age as a kid he always reminded me we are all slavs and I shall never hate or cast shade on fellow Croatian, Macedonian, Bosnian or anyone really. We all know from deep inside our souls Serb would never pull a weapon on Bosnian, Croat or else. Despite the many reasons he had to maybe tell me otherwise. He thought me that unity will prevail and that our love for each other and respect nobody can ruin never like west did then. There are multiple sources with admission of acts in aim of destabilization of Yugoslavia. I stand by the idea they feared us, united, standing strong. They had to push us to hate each other. Used criminals and extremists to start massacre and bloodshed, where civilians and families were only who lost. Loved ones and friends who they were united with before someone else put their hands onto our lands. We have been constantly invaded and fought for our independence, Nazis, Ottomans, Austro-Hungarians. I mean, whatever people say, at this point, does not matter. I know we are all strong and united we could be even better. Sadly, there is always something West does not like. They always find an enemy, they have been doing it for decades lately. I cannot understand how such nation always has an conflict with someone. Never takes care of themselves. But is always smart about other parts of the world and is first to take sides and provoke ethnic conflict. Just look at the world. I have nothing to say anymore. Stay doomed not to know your history, and repeat it.
I'm from the area and while there's a lot of love, let's not pretend there wasn't and still isn't a lot of animosity between the different groups that have nothing to do with foreign powers. In the end, the country was destroyed because we couldn't get along under a single flag, they just added fuel to the fire. The idea of South Slavic unity was dead before even WWII arrived if you look at the political strife and ethnic tensions in the country in the world war interim period. If it wasn't for the communist autocratic rule, Yugoslavia wouldn't even exist for the next half a century. No wonder it fell so fast after the dictatorship faded away. In the end, the romantic idea of unity met the bleak reality that, while we do love each other, we don't love each other enough to want to live under the same roof. Being neighbors seems to suit everyone the best. It's a shame really, because there's so much more that we could've accomplished together had we really seen eye to eye, but the mutual trust was never there.
If there were no germs of disunity within the Yugoslavs themselves, nobody could have broken you up. It does you no good to put all the blame on foreign forces and not face the truth about the role you yourselves have played. The mass killings and horrible things were done by Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, not by some aliens. Truth is not nice, but you cannot advance if you do not face it.
@@mrgalaxy396 If you read the comments it's simple to understand why Yugolslavia split. There were nations who saw themsleves as central european looking to the west and a nation who looked to the east. This is the main reason why it fell apart. Uncomapatibility about how different nation saw their futures. It was a comedy before the war. For example, Serbia imposed a trade embargo against Slovenia cause Slovenians banned tens of thousands of Serbs form Serbia and Bosnia form entering when they wanted to do their rally shouting This is Serbia ! Long live Slobo ! The so called Rallies Of Truth aka The Serb truth. Slovenia just didn't want anything to do with those medieval rednecks.
I have a feeling that most of the world thinks the former Yugoslavian countries looks post apocalyptic and that we live in tents or have nothing to eat, while going to sleep to sound of bombs like that is just not true we have beautiful cities, nature, beaches we have everything. We are not dirt poor neither. These are all old and unrealistic stereotypes.
Better the west thinks that than encourage them to bring their fucked up ways into your beautiful countries, the balkans has been the safest place we as a family have ever visited
27:26 "Why was never anything invested in Kosovo..." On the salary slip at the beginning of each month, there was a "for the Under-developed Kosovo" salary deduction clause, which all the people of Yugoslavia had to pay which went on for decades. A form of mandatory contribution, if you will...
In the 90s you lost the job only and only because you were Albanian, all schools were closed for no good reason. In the end Serbia started 4 wars and they lost all of them.
@@lulzimkajtazi9654 People lost jobs because they were not productive and appeared at work just to pick up salaries, not because of their nationality. If Albanians were avoiding work on purpose, then you cannot blame Serbs for that. Same thing with terrorist, Serbian police was fighting against terrorist because they were breaking the law of the state they were living in, not because of their nationality. It just happens that those terrorists were Albanians. Leaders of Albanian terrorist organization "Kosovo Liberation Army" were arms, drug and human organ dealers, human traffickers, are after the war were promoted to ministers, prime ministers, presidents of self-proclaimed state of Kosovo, and now imprisoned and trialed in Hague for all those crimes. What schools were closed? Where's the evidence for those claims? Prishtina had University with classes held in both Albanian and Serbian language. Even today, here in Serbia we have news in Albanian language on Serbian national television, and I remember seeing those since my childhood in the 80s. Serbia didn't start any war; it was defending its people. There are no winners in war, but without NATO's help to Albanian terrorists, you'd be typing different story. Albanian government of so-called Kosovo can put their victorious brown nose down and keep lips tightly on US government's ass to enjoy "independence".
@@lulzimkajtazi9654There is historical evidence that Serbia was singlehandedly supplying 60% of the Yugoslavian fund for the underdeveloped, as per Tito's and British resolution. What makes you beleive that ANY Albanian illegal refugee from "Anglo-Saxon arrangement of "Albania" with the collapsing Ottoman Empire in order to keep Bosphorus and Suez in British hands, should be welcomed in Serbia????
He shows pictures and videos of demonstrations in Serbia and lies about those being Serbs protesting against the aggression to Croatia, and those protests had nothing to do with that. Those are organized by nationalists, you can see woman wearing a chetnic cap there.
@@maniacZesci There was anti war protest in Belgrade but this protest was not on off it,Milosevic wanted to save Yugoslavia and this guy in beard wanted Monarchy Serbia
Taj čovek je radio za Ciu, kada je 9 marta 91 izašlo pola mil ljudi protiv rata u HR on stupa taj dan na scenu. każe da su ljudi izašli da protestvuju laži koje se o njemu pričale na dnevniku.Koliko se laži redovno izgovara pa ljudi nisu izašli. Milosevic morao da istera vojku i tenkove na ulicu.
@@robotube7361 - Yes, indeed. He mentions the Croatian nationalists and their atrocities in the beginning, but somehow neglects to mention that the pro-independence Croatian nationalists in the 1990s used the exact same symbol? LMAO "The Weight of Chains" is a much much better documantary.
@@Bike_Lion I agree. The Weight of chains its far more truthful but we all know The others want to play victims and blame the Serbs only and stilck to Western US/NATO propaganda. the serbs were blamed simply because they were sticking to their guns and refused to bent the knee to USA while the rest went to kiss its ass.
As a Bosnian Serb, I will hardly disagree with you on that. Until you get to know them better, you will find out that they are some of the rudest, sneakiest people you have ever met in your life
What a stupid comment. Yes they did stop the war. Believe it or not. You are either a Serb or a conspiracy theorist from a western country. There is no other way to spew such a stupid comment.
Sure Serbia did not invest in it, Milosevic's regime allowed militant groups to commit revenge for acts of terrorism committed by KLA (UCK) which are also a terrorism. But Albanians started it first, and they used force and brutal tactics, then when they got the equal response they started playing victims. This should be resolved with re-integration but with equal rights for everyone and certain higher authonomy status like it had in the past, but before that, we in Serbia need to get rid of Vucic and do democratic reforms, to have independent, strong and transparent government institutions.
@@leukaj733 nah, we're gonna re-integrate via force, if they don't want a peaceful re-integration, when the time is right. We can wait 1000 years, we have patience. We're slowly building up the army and learning from Russian mistakes.
It's funny how many inconsistencies, holes in the narrative and wrong premises fit into just half an hour of a historical "documentary"! This is on par with some of the lowest budget Hollywood crap.
@@jack-ht4tb Jack, you've exactly 0 clues about what you're talking about. Western media and creators fail to grasp the complexity of corruption, uneducated population and the historical context of Yugoslavian downfall. They also regularly fail to mention what US black ops did to spark the Yugoslav downfall by shoveling millions in the hands of politicians in order to break-up Yugoslavia. As you'll recall, US didn't like communists, and even though Yugoslavia never bothered anyone, US couldn't have it. The tensions didn't break out purely because of the rhetoric of the politicians. That might've been about 20% of it. The other 80% is US money. When Slobodan Milosevic fell, he fell due to a "student" organisation named OTPOR (meaning Resistance) that fought to end him. Now if you turn on your brain for a bit you'll maybe think "oh wait, how did a lowly student organisation have the money and the logistics to get the whole country to rise up?". Hard, cold American-made money. Millions of it. So yeah, Western documentaries regularly fail to dig through the CIA un-classified documents on Yugoslavia. It's public domain now, go and check. US did more damage in this world than all of the dictators combined in the 20-th century. And the world just stood drunk on dollars and freedom cool-aid.
@@jack-ht4tb Nope, just pointing out that there has been 0 good documentaries so far, made by Westerners, that are good. And this video is no exception.
I grew up abroad because of the wars, and this topic has always been personal for me. I started reading the history a few months ago, and I hate that every book says something completely different, especially when it comes to Kosovo. Who can I believe? I know that my parents' stories aren't enough since they didn't experience everything, and the topic is too painful for them to this day - half the odd stuff my mum does are directly explained by her trauma; that's why I decided to read some stuff myself instead of asking her directly. And when researching this topic, I couldn't help but notice the disparity between the situation on paper and the actual situation on the ground: for example, every newspaper article or youtube video talks about ancient hatreds, but my entire family firmly says that they didn't start having problems until the 90s. I met a few fellow yugoslavs of different ethnicities abroad, and there was never any hostility, quite the contrary. So while I didn't get to live in Yugoslavia, I still can't help but feel sad that it fell apart. I don't think a new Yugoslavia will form in my lifetime though - too many politicians from the 90s are still in power. So thanks so much for making this video, especially because you actually visited the countries and talked to the locals. If someone asks for a brief introduction to the topic, I'll send them this video!
In fact, out of all the republics, only Serbia defended Yugoslavia to the end. The traitors were Ustaša fascist Croatia, Slovenia (killed unarmed 19-year-old soldiers), Bosnia and Herzegovina (killed a convoy of soldiers leaving Sarajevo, including women and medical personnel) and especially the international terrorist organization UCK in Kosovo and Metohija, which killed the unarmed Serbian population, the police as well as the army (later), as well as Albanians who were against terrorism... later the domino effect affected other republics as well, under the threat of NATO and the EU, which are criminal creations, which violated the UN statute, and attacked the SOVEREIGN, INDEPENDENT country of Yugoslavia. This is actually "The never-ending story of the people with power who are manufacturing crises to divide people to distract them and get what they want. It is a story of modern time OCCUPATION by the NATO criminal organization and the EU (whose members are made up of former colonial powers) + Great Britain. A gang of domestic traitors and criminals with a corrupt past, with the cooperation of the corrupt MEDIA BBC and CNN, ensured that the world was "informed about the true events where Serbian gangs kill "innocent, peaceful terrorist organizations, the UCK, Ustasha and similar gangs" steeped in the murders of the population. in Kosovo and Metohia, and in Croatia. Of course, the truth is completely different. So now we have a scenario of ARTIFICIALLY CAUSED WARS in Ukraine, Palestine...etc...
@@stevanpejic8517 Hvala. Ali zadatak svih nas,koji smo živeli na teritoriji bivše Jugoslavije, je da se pogledamo iznutra dukoko u našu dušu, da shvatimo gde smo grešili, da proučimo prošlost naše zemlje, prošlost i dokumentovanu istoriju kolonijalnih sila, i da shvatimo da smo ispali glupi,povodljivi i da iz toga izvučemo pouke,DA VIŠE NIKADA NE PONOVIMO ISTU GREŠKU. GLUPACIMA ću ostaviti da budu glupaci čitav život, a kriminalnim grupama iz inostranstva i domacim izdajnicima se treba suprostaviti. Zaključak : Svi mi koji živimi na teritoriji bivše Jugoslavije treba biti jasno da smo SVI ISTOG POREKLA, UGLAVNOM IDENTIČNE GENETIKE, DA SMO PRAKTIČNO BRAĆA I ROĐACI, da gledamo sebe i svoje interese, a ne interese koruptivnih korporacija sa ZAPADA....da se vratimo svojim korenima,i svojoj porodici....i da ne upadamo u zamke novih ratova...Da ne bude kao u onoj pripovetci od Laze Lazarevića "Sve će to narod pozlatiti"...
NATO general : How the Serb army escaped Nato 'They came out of villages when they wanted to, they hid when the weather was good' Nato commanders, not to say political leaders, became increasingly frustrated by their inability to destroy Serb units. It was known that Yugoslavia had built an extensive system of underground shelters for its troops, guns and aircraft - a relic of President Tito's era, in preparation for a possible invasion by the Soviet Union. Many of its camouflage techniques, including the use of dummy weapons emplacements, the Serbs had learned from the russians. Critics of the bombing campaign also said mistakes were the inevitable result of Nato's policy of restricting its pilots to bombing from 15,000 feet or above - a policy dictated not least by political considerations, notably Washington's determination to avoid horrified public reaction to the sight of "bodybags" coming home. Yet when the western media saw the Serb military withdraw from Kosovo in early June, they saw convoys of Serb tanks, armoured cars, guns, trucks and military equipment untouched by Nato's air assault. Nato's bombing campaign, with thousand of sorties and the dropping of tens of thousands of bombs, including sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded in damaging just 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo. Serbs had 50 marines In their hotels and a deal was made ,the Serbs pulled out Little nation like serbia , then again those serbs are tough .
Calling it a myth is correct. Because the version the servian state propagates is nothing more than fiction invented exactly for servian nationalism nothing more. The real battle of Kosovo was a multi ethnic anti ottoman coalition consisting of albanian, bosniak servian bulgar and hungarian lords and soldiers. But this of course doesn't really help fuel ethno nationalism hence the lying claiming it was only servs.
@@soul8938Moreover, the term “Kosovo” was only introduced by the Ottomans in the 19th century when they founded the Vilayet Kosova. “Besides, ‘Ova’ is an Ottoman word for area. That's why myth is the right term if you don't even have your own term for such an “important” region.
@@eMotta The term "Kosovo" is derived from the Serbian word "kos," which means "blackbird" (specifically, a blackbird of the genus Turdus). The term "Kosovo" itself is believed to have first appeared in Slavic languages in the medieval period. It is most notably associated with the Battle of Kosovo, which took place on June 28, 1389, between the Ottoman Empire and the medieval Serbian state. The name "Kosovo" was used to refer to the region of Kosovo Polje (meaning "Field of the Blackbirds" in Serbian), which is where the battle occurred. This usage in a Slavic language dates back to at least the 14th century.
@@milutinrs the name kosovo doesnt even derive from servian but bulgarian which ruled the area for a while. The area was known as Dardania and partly moesia for far longer. The name is being used temporarily now to avoid confusion.
What superficial thinking. . You are also an occupied, banana republic with a huge imposed debt. You will have to pay off the debts for decades. In the end, you will have to pay off the debts of the EU (a gang of corporate banks).
This video doesnt satisfy me 1. You claim ethnic tensions were manufactured myths but even you couldnt avoid mentioning WW2 massacres, even if you just glossed over it. Where did that hatred spring from? 2. OK, propaganda can push peaceful neighbours to fight, but you fail to address the sheer viciousness of the war. It wasnt "just" murder and rape, but the details of the how of the atrocities which I cant mention here is almost unmatched in human history. The facts dont match your lovey dovey portrayal of the ethnicities.
I'm from Croatia and from what i've heard the Serbs commited some of the worst atrocities you can possibly imagine. If you heard what they did it would disturb you to the core. It was because a lot of them were paramilitary consisting of criminals, one of their commanders was a literal mob boss called Arkan.
@@TheDennys21 Google "srbosjek". A neighbor in one part of formerly Serbian majority Croatia (RS Krajina) had a huge scar across his neck from ww2. He died in 2014, but i saw it and i spoke with him. It was made by Croatians slaughtering Serbians in an orthodox church over a barrel, collecting blood to be sent to Ante Pavelic for his birthday. The church has been demolished in 1994, and a school where all students were picked up and led to that church to be slaughtered was renamed from "memorial home" to "croatian home" in 2015 or so. He survived the slaughter because they were in a rush to kill all the people, so some who still gurgled and showed signs of life were thrown on the pile with the rest of the dead bodies. He woke up that night and crawled out. He was 16. Just a little story of what Croatians did.
Suppressing religion and especially supressing to talk about the atrocities which were commited during ww2 may have been a huge mistake as it didnt really heal the wounds, instead the crimes were put under the carpet and emerged again when economic hardship due to economic mismanagement and horrible leadership. Tito made a huge mistake in taking up those massive IMF loans, which lead to interest going up as much as 20% after the oil crisis. This ruined the economy of the country, combined with a newly emerging upper class because of austerity measures imposed because of those loans. It lead to richer republics complaining about redistribution to invest into poorer republics creating a sort of new nationalism. Very good documentary!
"It lead to richer republics complaining about redistribution to invest into poorer republics creating a sort of new nationalism." The only reason Croatia and Slovenia were richer republics in the first place was because the KPJ (Communist party of Yugoslavia) had economic plans for development of SR (Socialist Republics) and Croatia and Slovenia were the 1st ones on the agenda. Once Serbia, Bosnia and Macedonia were supposed to be invested into Croatia and Slovenia suddenly didn't want to contribute but they didn't mind it when the other republics were paying for their economies.
@@mradicevic I dont see that as a contradiction to what I wrote. I was more setting that into the context of a new nationalism by newly emerging economic elites as a consequence of capitalist reforms.
I think loans are an overblown talking point. Ante Marković had $16B in debt and the same amount in cash reserves. Today, each Republic on average owes $160B. No one is any better with their loan situation.
...+ Croatia and Slovenia were in fact getting everything from Serbia, first complete factories,from 1946 and few years late,r and later raw materials, which were then placed as a finished product on the huge market of Yugoslavia. The only real loser in that unfair distribution of capital was in fact Serbia (it lost big, best factories, like FM Rakovica in Belgrade), Kragujevac, etc...
"NATO is here to stop the war in Yugoslavia" Sure they are, sure they are. One good line a friend of mine once said. The one thing many other countries never really pass on, or at least quite as deeply is generational trauma. And that's what has taken root the best and been passed on for many generations now in the Balkans. France and England have waged wars for well over a millennium. Some of them literally lasting for a century. Yet today even tho they make fun of one another, they get along, trade and dont worry about the past. The Balkans will never be that way. One has to die so the others can move on. There is no "the war is over" there is only waiting. And as soon as the US no longer needs Bondsteel in Kosovo, or is per-occupied with something else, another war will erupt. One generation has to "move on". We are literally poisoning our children and making sure they or their children will die in a trench one day.
you are not, US and Nato still poison you everyday. Do investigate the media.... the money behind it. You should start again a federation à la brics (kroatia humhum?), as you still share the goods (on shelves from Slovakia to Makedonia) and language.
You, many of you, are a mix of your provinces, as much as the French are for ex. Germany is your real villain, not only as EU representative. And Bruxelles practices the blackmail and regimechange in BigBrother's steps. DO recover eachother to battle your wrongdoers! please!
You are saying that bondsteel is the reason that serbia is such a corrupt state that cant offer nothing to its citizens except hate against its neighbours and ultra nationalism that leads to war?
Video start with year 1994 as the start of the conflict. As if nothing happened since 1990 to 1994. Very convenient missing the 4 critical years and what was done and how and on what territory…
Absolutely no mention of Operation Oluja, nor of the deeds or Izetbegovic nor Tudjman when discussing the civil wars in Bosnia and Croatia. Absolutely no mention of the illegality of NATO intervention from the standpoint of International Law and how debated that was. Everything was our own fault, apparently, while giving the idea that the West was just a passive bystander, while in reality it was heavily invested in assisting the destruction of the country. Jesus, this video is as "objective" as the opinions of a Bronze Age farmer on quantum physics! However, I have to admit it was reasonably well sugar-coated for your average braindead Westerner, although that war video game sponsorship on a video like this is out of touch at best, disgusting at worst
@@owl2owl So now just cause 1 asshole all of serbs are "bad serb" for other things that got nothing to do with it. imagine if i branded every german today by A.H. 's doing in ww2, or every american ever a potential school shooter? I wont go into west's hypocrity cause its insane in every debate not just this when it comes to "civilian casualties" also known as "collateral damage" as to dehumanize it as much as possible
@@charo703 How is your question relevant to anything I said? Yes, the video blames it on nationalistic leadership (and returning to my original comment, it quite obviously blames it only on Milosevic and never even mentions Tudjman or Izetbegovic, which is exactly how you would tell invented fairly tales pretending to be history to an average Westerner), and... did I deny it? What I vehemently question is that the whole Yugoslav debacle is presented as if it was ultimately our fault (and I will specify it this time, by "us" I mean all the people of former Yugoslavia, inclusive of the nationalistic leaderships and everyone who fell for it), when all foreign interventionism and efforts to stir chaos are just never even remotely mentioned, probably accepting the trope that "Oh, it's the Balkans, of course they don't need foreign interventionism, they are savages who just like to kill each other from time to time". Well, no, I'm not having this retarded narrative.
Only foreign influence that is worth mentioning is end of the cold war which was also the end of American and Russian economic support. People will go out of their way to search for blame far away but simple truth is that Yugoslav economic system couldnt survive changed world order. Without Soviet threat the west didnt need Yugoslavia anymore but it was never important enough to plot its destruction and risk stability in Europe with it
For someone who has lived through these events, I have nothing else to say about this video, than to count all anti-western sentiments of people that are extra biased or extra ignorant. And btw, I was personally brainwashed by two CIA agents to vote for my countries independance from that country that kept the name of Yugoslavia for years to come.
Highly sided, fast forwarded with bunch of intentionally avoided details, skipped facts and storytelling self wording descriptions. This is NOT how documentary should be made. I am ready to argue and give a proof of fake descriptions for half of what was said in this video + not to mention avoiding . Why you are making documentaries without making a proper research? You used single book for this and you create partly-truth historical narrative which was far away from a full story.
17:57 you put Vuk Drašković as he is some peacemaker..in that time he was the one of the biggest serbian nationalist with dreams of "greater serbia" and he didn't had nothing against war,he did have against Milošević 'cause of their internal politics. and it was not a "youth protest" against war but a protest against government in organisation of Vuk Drašković and his party and they said that serbian government is in collaboration with Croats. edjucate yourself properly before you make videos,there are numerous incorrect and untrue informations in this video.
Vuk Draskovic was a secretary of Mika Spiljak’s office during Spiljak’s mandate as a president of executive council od Yugoslavia (prime minister equivalent). Spiljak was also a president of presidium when winter olimpic games were held in Sarajevo 1984 (before him Tito was on that position). Spiljak was in top five political figures since 1966 after Aleksandar Rankovic was politicaly eliminated. He announced and signed as a president of national parlament constitution from 1974 while second person who signed it was Stane Dolanc (head of federal state security service - Savezna UDBA poslije SDB and in his non-working hours a sponsor and protector of Arkan who was a son of his close friend). Spiljak’s name is often related in a case when former INA CEO Stjepan Djurekovic was murdered after he fled the country and rumors told that Arkan was a person who killed Djurekovic not due his political activity but to hide and protect Spiljak’s son Vanja who was involved in money malversations in INA where he worked. More suspicios came out when iz was discovered that Croatian office of state security also was trying to catch Djurekovic but someone was faster. It was the first time that execution was done by dofferent natinality than the person who was killed because the rule was that everyone will be responsible for their national members in order to avoid national conflict or questions. Returning to Draskovic- he was a highly ranked member of regime and one of the persons who were planned to become hard core nationalist in order to manage part of population that had national ideology or were related to those gruops during WW 2 and before
As someone who was born in Croatia, lived in Bosnia and now Serbia, Yugoslavia was destroyed so that bigger players can take valuable resources from these countries. Simple as that.
Sums it up in a nutshell, if you trace back any conflict between people in the Balkans in the last 150 years (because we never had problems with each other before that) you will always find a foreign entity at play, in the case of the balkans mostly Austrian or German, it was never internal, interesting that...
Jugoslavija je nastala na mitu južnih Slavena. Skupini koja realno nema zajednički jezik niti zajedničku kulturu. Etnicitet se stalno spominje kao nešto nazadnjacko, ali je to prirodno čovjeku. Apstraktne ideje da možemo živjeti pod istim krovom samo ako to želimo ignoriraju čovjekovu prirodu, a rezultat smo vidjeli. Komunizam i jedinstvo su mentalne bolesti. Možemo biti dobri susjedi pa čak i prijatelji, ali nikad nećemo biti braća. Naš pećinski mozak nam to brani i čim prije to svi prihvate, bit će manje mrtvih.
Really informative video, but why would you accept a war game sponsor? Especially on this video. A game like that isn't made to inform people on history, it is made to capitalize on the already existing glorification of war. Please reconsider your sponsor or clarify.
Its a video game. Its entertainment. He is not being sponsored by the military industrial complex. Its not possible to make such long and high quality videos without sponsors, and the product being sponsored needs to match the population watching the video.
I feel like this creator is in the financial position to choose his sponsors and if he was not, I'd say don't make this video if this sponsor is your only choice. Glorification of war isn't worth it. I can see he shows negative impacts of war in this video, but I feel like a true anti war stance isn't present in this video. This sponsor doesn't help.
@@MCDorups You feel like, but you dont really know. Its super easy for you to sit at your computer and judge over inconsequential things. Once you make your own UA-cam channel and invest a crazy amount of effort and time into it, and rely completely on that for your living, you can come back and judge. And video games with war thematic are not glorification of war, thats an extremely stupid perspective.
@@obscureorcaI said if he doesn't have the option to choose a correct sponsor he shouldn't make this video. No matter his (financial)struggles. You feel like it's inconsequential, but you "really don't know", this channel has a big audience so my guess is people should be worrying about this kind of stuff.
@@MCDorups It is a correct sponsor. It's a video game. There is no glorification of war or violence. You are being unreasonable and looking for an excuse to complain and take a moral high-ground. He should absolutely do any subject he wants regardless of his financial position. We need smart young people who are independent to research these kinds of topics and educate the general population.
Just one thing. After the war, some statistics came out. In the city of mostar, serbs were about 15% of the population. My mother said she wouldn’t have guessed it was so low. Every police officer was a serb, every professor was a serb… “you get a feeling that they’re 50% percent of the population. And then i found out it was only 15%.” That might be the reason approval was so low in BiH.
How did you accept a sponsorship from a video game capitalising on if not glorifying war for a video about what you literally called "the worst conflict in Europe since WWII" and think it was a good idea?
well, I don't know what to say, some elements are well researched, but some important parts are missing, for example, Battle for Vukovar in 1991, Operation oluja, The beggining of war in Croatia and all the massacres, not only in Bosnia. I HOPE YOU'LL READ THIS COMMENT.
Yugoslavia was destroyed on Easter, April 16, 1944, when the Western "allies" bombed Belgrade in order to bring the communists to power! They bombed all major cities on the territory of Serbia, especially the capital Belgrade, where the majority of Christians are of the Orthodox faith. They were bombed on their biggest holiday, Easter, without any announcement. Then when everyone who could under the fascist occupation secretly celebrated their biggest holiday in their homes. That bombing was the second major bombing of Belgrade in World War II. The first happened on April 6, 1941, when Adolf Hitler, without declaring war, bombarded the civilian part of Belgrade with heavy bombs. Objects of Serbian cultural heritage were especially targeted, with the national library being hit with napalm bombs... But it should be emphasized that the bombing by the Western "allies" in 1944 under the slogan of liberating Belgrade from the fascists was far more merciless, and the number of civilian victims was abnormal. After that, the West, specifically Great Britain in the first place, imposed Tito and his communist rule on the Yugoslavs. And he forbade the royal family to return to Yugoslavia, which had been waiting all this time in London under British "protection and guarantees" that they would be returned to their Royal Court. On the contrary, they moved the communist dictator Josip Broz alias Tito into the Royal Palace. Banned all democratic institutions, abolished political parties. And all those who were motivated by that were liquidated or sent to concentration camps! The most famous is "Goli otok", on a deserted island in the Adriatic Sea. Thus, Europe had legal concentration camps like Hitler's and Stalin's even after the Second World War. It is a precedent of historical proportions, which perfectly demonstrates the union of globalists, fascists and communists, which continues to this day.
Burazeru, oslobodi se te udbo-četničke propagande. Nemam vremena o svemu da ti odgovaram, niti mi pada napamet, ali ideja da su saveznici bombardovali samo Srbiju je idiotska - proguglaj malo , dobićeš informacije da su zapadni delovi Jugoslavije bili sušeni od bombardovanja. Split i Zadar su rasturani, mnogo puta bombardovani, na primer. Kao i Zagreb. Srbija i njeni gradovi su bili legitiman cilj početkom 1944, jer su bili bastion kvislinške vlasti i okupacionih snaga. Srbijom je vlada marionetska vlast kao i u drugim krajevima Balkana. A i zabole me da branim ovde Zapadnjake, nego me nervira strašno ta srpska sklonost ka bednoj jajarskoj večitoj viktimizaciji. Ne, nismo bili ništa posebno do 1944., da nije bilo Crvene Armije i upada partizana, odnosno NOVJ iz drugih oblasti Jugoslavije, a zatim i mobilizacije i Sremskog fronta... komotno bi Srbija istorijski ostala zapamćena kao nemački satelit u WW2. Kao uostalom i mnoge druge države. Bugarska, na primer. PS - Srbija je imala 20-ak konc logora na svojoj teritoriji, gde su sprovodjene desetine hiljada rodoljuba, talaca, pripadnika manjina i nepodobnih, i potkazanih. Sprovodili su ih nedićevci i ljotićevci, uz gestapo i ostale strukture. Srbija je bila DRUGA JUDEN FREI zemlja u Evropi, revnosno je počišćena Jevrejska populacija. Nije je bilo mnogo, doduše, ali tako stoje stvari zvanično. Dakako, 100 Srba za jednog Nemca stoji kao fakat takođe, ali Srbe za streljanje i sprovođenje u logore birali su najčešće sami Srbi. Po službenoj dužnosti. Posle su navodno partizani iz obesti i morbidne ideologije "ubijali cvet srpske mladosti i poštene domaćine". Jašta, sve pošten domaćin, moj do mojega.
17:57 this man was no better than Milosevic. In the late 90's, to avoid prison/The Hague, he turned against Milosevic... and it worked. Before that he was one of the biggest nationalists in Yugoslavia and the one who advocated for "Greater Serbia."
Actually - nope. For 500+ years Kosovo remained out from Serbia. In XX century it remained in Serbia only 3 years - 1912-1915, and then it wasn't. During next 25 years (1918-1943) it was simply the integral part of Kingdom of Yugoslavia. During that part there was no Serbia, no Croatia, no Slovenia, no Bosnia... just Yugoslavia. Kosovo was REALLY part of Serbia and Yugoslavia, mutally, during period of 1943-1999. Milosevic years 1989-99 provoked Albanians into boycot and whole situation remained very poor politically, apartheid system in reality. All in all, only communist government managed to keep Kosovo relativelly normal as a part of Serbia, under complicated constitutional position. The moment Milosevic got into the game, it all went downhill. Heart of Serbia is Shumadia, or Rashka, or other parts. Not Kosovo. Even the Battle of Kosovo was fought by the people who came from other parts of the Balkans / Serbia, not by the native people from Kosovo. It's all a fairy tale that keeps Serbs into slavery of false narrative. PS - nobody mentions North Macedonia, monesteries and SPC that became MPC. See how narratives are fractured and non-logical. NM was equally part of medieval Serbian state, but somehow - it's not mythologically relevant in these modern political games. Crazy, eh?
Sorry mate, totally off the mark. The breakup of Yugoslavia was funded and supported by the US. The US could not risk the Russians having their military base in the Balkans. Camp Bondsteel is proof. So come back when you are not biased.
I remember being told my grandpa was 100% Irish, when I asked my uncles they laughed and said, “the biggest chunk is Irish, but he’s a mutt. After Yugoslavia broke up, I think we counted 12 nationalities.” Made me chuckle before I realized how deadly the breakup was. Working towards a world filled with peace
Kosovo is a really important historical and monumental region for Serbs. It contains centuries old important cultural heritages, extremely valuable for Serbs for ex. Patriarchate of Peć which was the first seat of Serbian Patriarchs (1346.). If this guy thinks the opinion of his applies to a big share of Serbia's young, he's greatly mistaken. I personally think most people would agree Kosovo is an integral part, not only politically but historically, as it is so deeply ingraved in our history and it's quite impossible to completely disregard it and label it as unimportant.
14.30 Show all of Milosevic's Kosovo speech! It was actually quite peaceful not nationalistic! Here is an extract of his speech: "Serbia has never had only Serbs living in it. Today, more than in the past, members of other peoples and nationalities also live in it. This is not a disadvantage for Serbia. I am truly convinced that it is its advantage. National composition of almost all countries in the world today, particularly developed ones, has also been changing in this direction. Citizens of different nationalities, religions, and races have been living together more and more frequently and more and more successfully."
@@ThePresentPast_ I don't know why is UA-cam filtering my comments but let's try one more time - by your very source, that table is not true. Please check it as I cannot put a link here since then my comment gets hidden.
@@ThePresentPast_ I'm not arguing the credibility of the index, I'm simply stating that the table data provided in the video (23:55) is not the data provided by the stated source (sources, page 8, page footer, RSF unnumbered source between sources 46 and 47) i.e. the numbers do not match. RSF 2024 World Press Freedom Index of former Yugoslavian countries ordered by score (higher is better) and rank: Country - Actual score (#world rank) - Video stated score North Macedonia - 73.78 (#36)- 74.35 Montenegro - 73.21 (#40) - 74.28 Slovenia - 72.60 (#42) - 74.89 Croatia - 68.79 (#48) - 75.87 Kosovo - 60.19 (#75) - 70.45 Bosnia-Herzegovina - 58.85 (#81) - 68.12 Serbia - 54.48 (#98) - 76.01 I've noticed this, since Serbia is well known for its poor press freedom.. And it was first on your list (from the Yugoslav countries). Its press freedom (#98) is akin to that of countries like Tanzania (#97), Chad (#96), Israel (#101) or Kenya (#102) The other countries (rank and score) seem to be wrong as well. Norway was put as 91.98 while its actual score is 91.89. Denmark is stated as 90.21, actual score 89.60. You've put Lithuania 10th just in front of Germany, while in the RSF index, Germany is 10th and Lithuania 13th. You also put Russia in 39th place with a score of 65.45, while they are actually 162nd with a score of 29.86.
Religion was not suppressed, it was just that religious people had no place in politics because they would side with their ethnic group and would create what would inevitably become the Yugoslav Wars in the 90’s
❤ as a Serb that was growing up in Yugoslavias republic Serbia it is hard to understand why a beautiful country as Yugoslavia was destroyed by the West as the Varsow pact was dead at 1989 Berlin Wall takedown.
TITO WAS A MASTER OF FOREIGN POLITICS, BUT IN DOMESTIC POLITICS AN AMATEUR. I appreciate your efforts trying to paint an unbiased overall picture. To fully understand (if that's even possible), a much deeper dive into the historical periods is essential though. Pozdrav to all people with good will from someone who grew up in SFR Yugoslavia, whose Serbian great grandparents had to flee from the ustaša in WW2 from Bosnia to Serbia and whose other Croatian great grandpa was ki*led in Croatia, after protecting his Serb friend from the ustaša, who wanted to wall him up alive, then got beaten up and died as a result of the injuries. The Biggest mistake for Serbs was to follow King Aleksandar's decision to join the Kingdom of SHS (later Yugoslavia) after WW1
One more propaganda anti-Serbian video with a little twist. Blending truth with a propaganda is the most dangerous type of video because ordinary viwer (which doesnt have enough history knowledge on the matter) is easier to be convinced.
@@ThePresentPast_lol, I loved the video. As a history buff, you are probably my favorite channel. I always wondered what the difference was between Yugoslavia and Germany at the time of unification in the 19th century. “Germany” use to have many different German dialects/languages, they were split on religion (Protestant vs Catholic), etc.
17:57 this man was no better than Milosevic. In the late 90's, to avoid prison/The Hague, he turned against Milosevic... and it worked. Before that he was one of the biggest nationalists in Yugoslavia and the one who advocated for "Greater Serbia."
This video lost me right at the beginning. At NATO was here to prevent war. When In reality, NATO supported and encourage separatist in Yugoslavia and practically contributed for the destruction.
Serbia is the one that started the war tho. They didn't have to attack other Yugoslav nations. Did the UK attack Scotland or did Spain attack Catalonia for wanting independence? So by your logic if Spain attacks Catalonia tomorrow people that support catalonia today are to blame for the war?
@@og_clock why did Spain imprisoned the guy who wanted Catalonia independent? Why the west not allowed referendum for the people to decide whether they want to stay with Spain or not? While west helped Albanian separatist to take Kosovo, but the serbs in bosna cannot have independence. That's a hypocrisy. And the serbs did not start the war. I am from Macedonia which was part of Yugoslavia. I know the history better than you.
@filipkirovski5823 "The West" doesn't decide who can do a referendum. The referendum in Catalonia was violating the constitution of Spain but according to the Yugoslav constitution individual republics were allowed to have a referendum and leave. Serbs in RS didn't even have a referendum in Yugoslavia because RS didn't even exist as a separate entity and RS attacked Bosnia with the help of Serbia. They were the agresors and the current constituiton of Bosnia which RS signed doesn't allow for secession. "The West" didn't help Albanians in Kosovo. The United Nations asked Serbia repeatedly to stop killing Albanians in Kosovo and Serbia didn't stop that's why there's a UN peacekeeping mission in Kosovo right now.
@filipkirovski5823 If Serbs in Bosnia wanted independence they should've asked for a referendum after Bosnia became independent instead of attacking it. Tell me then who started the war and when? Tell me the date of which some Yugoslav Republic or some other country attacked Serbia?
I guess you've made a fair video. However, one remark - on the animated illustration of Yugoslavia falling apart you have clearly broken Bosnia and Herzegovina into two pieces implying it was split in two countries, and even said during the video that "Bosnia was devided according to ethnical lines". That is not true. Bosnia-Herzegovina is still single country, made of two entities. Ethnical lines are only inside of some ethno-nationalist heads, but legally it's one country with two entities quite similar to federal states seen in some other countries.
People this is all Wikipedia history. Bottom line is Second Yugoslavia (1945-1990) was a British&US project established by communist force the invaded and occupied Serbia in 1945. Main purpose of this is slow dissolution of Serbia (ccomunists commited mass m in Serbia-over 100.000 Serbs where killed and robbed in 1945, factories, villas, gold all "appropriated" during executions). When they did not need it anymore US&UK (a bit of Germany too) decided to organize the war in Yugoslavia and to establish a militarily base in Kosovo. Its simple US invasion and occupation.
On the contrary, this has been an extremely pro-Serb and pro-cosmopolitan 'documentary': the Croats were fascist lunatics, Hungarians and Italians were nothing more than 'foreign' aggressors, and Austrians were just generally a**holes, while the murderer of a marital couple, making their children orphans and dragging the world into war, was a hero and a visionary. What a truly objective piece of work it is!
We Serbs truly are a master of genocides - we are truly the only ones whos genocides decreased our population by hundreds of thousands in regions at question. Truly remarkable.
This video is (ofc in my opinion) beyond disgusting. If you are going to make a video like this, at leaste change the title. But if you want to make a good and informative video that goes so shallow into the problem such as this one, you'll at leaste need to find an expert interlocutor that would probably help you with the point of view. Almost every university history professor would be very keen on helping you or at least refering you to someone who will. Really shameful. I would honestly delete the video.
A lot of complaining here yet no one is making a better version. This is first time I am watching and learning something about the former Yugoslavia. The presentation was fair and balanced in my opinion. If you keyboard warriors can do better then please do so and I will be more than willing to watch and learn. Until then quit complaining!!!
Really Dude , Now tell me the true story of your the OVERRACE Dardainiannas in 5000 BC , or havin a statue of bill clinton in THE BEST CITY IN the WORLD 🤣
lots of misinformation in this video, for instance economic crisis lasted until 1987 when inflation was taken under control with the program from A. Markovic, and not until 1990. Those 4 years until war started in 91 was the best years for country by the economic standpoint.
There are always some things that missing. I think that guilt for breakup of Yugoslavia is shared between republics, because it is very similar to end of a marriage, there are always two sides of a story.
@@beiragusa you didn't get the point but that's ok. EU had it's fingers all over Yugoslavia before the war started, but Milosevic didn't want to do anything with EU and Nato. So the EU and US secretly armed the Croats and assured them they would help in case of war, witch they knew was inevitable in that constellation of power. And don't mention ICTY because it's only real use was to make the Serbs bad guys of Europe after the war.
@@andydufresne9593 Incorrect. Croatia was under arms embargo, arms were from captured jna barracks and bought illegaly from collapsed soviet union. West didn't enter conflict until 1994 in Bosnia. Entering Eu as yugoslav confederation was Stjepan Mesic plan to save Yugoslavia. ICTY was global tribunal that included countries from even third world. Incorrect on every term, typical serb propagandist "equally guilty" "cia destroy yugoslavia" hur dur
@@andydufresne9593 Incorrect. Croatia was under arms embargo, it got its weapons from captured Jna barracks and from collapsed soviet union, Russians sold million ak's at price of 160$ a piece, including mig 21's later. There was no western involvement in war in Croatia at all, and not anywhere until 1994 Bosnia. Plan for yugoslavia to enter eu as confederation was proposed by Stjepan Mesic, a Croat politician, in 1990 as a means to prevent war and save yugoslavia as a whole. ICTY was international tribunal, even third world countries participated, conclusions are clear. You are incorrect on every term, as is expected of serb propagandist, slowly trying to paint the conflict as ''everyones fault'' or ''cia destroyed yugoslavia'', it was clear serbian agression! Relativism and revisionism were always strong sides serb propaganda, Just like when you suddenly remembered to make a resolution about ww2 camps, month after you were presented with a resolution of your war crimes in Srebrenica, 30 years ago. But it will never be forgotten!
I visited Bosnia-Herzegovina, the countryside. There were small towns that had been through the war. As in Sarajevo, they had not repaired the facades of buildings battered by bullets and mortar -- a reminder of the past. There were still landmines in some areas. Some little villages were primarily Muslim and some more Catholic in the same region. I was told it was unwise to wander into the Muslim villages; there was still some tension, decades later. During the fighting civilians took shelter in the local convent.
there were also the Domobranci who were the fascics Slovenes who wanted to make Slovenia free and alied to Germany. and no, we never lived in a „diverse nation“ Slovenia was always a homogenious Slovene society witch was unfortunately always ocupied and backstabed
@Rade-yy7geyoure right, i honestly dont know other hostories than slovene so i cannot speak on that but it is very bad that he got away woth so many mistakes
Not Ethnic lines. Those lines weren't ethnic, they were deliberately drawn politically, not ethnically. Google for the "Yugoslavia ethnic map 1980". The Yugoslavian internal administrative lines were drawn with something else in mind and they were not real "states within federation".
To understand 90s war i recommended the best movie on that topic LEPA SELA LEPO GORE ( PRETTY VILLAGES PRETTY FLAME ) you have it with enlish subtitles,u wont regret it,if u like and interested in Yugoslavia land of honey and blood.
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Yugoslavia was an experiment. Same as, fascism, democracy...it was an zionist/communist experiment. Tito was not even Yugoslavian, because when he spoke...he sounded like someone who learned our language. He was also for sure 33 degree grand mason, that is why he got so much recognition in the rest of the world. Yet, he once spoke on TV prior to the war, that we as Yugoslavians have to stick together and especially hold Bosnia together as a mixed ethnicity heart of Yugoslavia. The Mossad, CIA, MI6, we're operating prior to conflict and financing all back than and today's political parties in order to create the none existing conflict. Milošević, Tuđman and Izetbegović were financed and put in place to play their roles. What they all did was, they opened all jails and gave criminals weapons,drugs and uniforms and go and kill, rape and plunder in order to create blood conflict. Yugoslavia was sold out, because they knew they can't control a country which owed them nothing. After WW2, Yugoslavia borrowed 23 billions from IMF, and prior to Tito's death, paid 22 billions back, had youth and weapons to defend it from outside threats but never have they thought that those weapons they paid with generations, will be used against them by selected traitors. Germany instigated the split up with Helmut Kohl and Genscher who supported Croatian Slowenien and Bosnian Independence, yet when Serbs attacked those countries... Germans said , we have nothing to do with it. At the same time after splitting of Yugoslavia, all EU got well educated immigrants from ex Yugoslavia to work for cheap while at the same time controlling new established countries with a new debt.
I lived for 40 years in Serbia and rest of the Balkan, this is the best video so far that summarizes the whole thing perfectly well and all within 30 minutes. Of course you will have those telling you how you missed this or that, but you didn't, it's perfect - these people can discuss the war and politics for days on end, but it really isn't all that complicated as they are led to believe. Overall great vid, subscribed.
When som one say the west i hear this. London brige is falling down falling down falling down London brige is falling down hell it,s abut time bye bye west
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Corrections:
At 5:13 I put the flag upside down, don't know how that happened, the Dutch must be too strong. Sorry!
I've been watching the video for about six minutes now and I have to say it's of great quality.
Unfortunately I must point out a mistake: at 5:13 the flag is wrong. The flag of Yugoslavia was blue white and red.
Thank you in advance for any future correction or for the future recognition of the mistake!
@@user-jm5gs6ze9h Yes you're completely right, thanks!
@@ThePresentPast_listening to your accent i suspect your dutch? Maybe a video about dutchbat's role within the war? As there was no mention of it here
@@ThePresentPast_ No problem! The video was really good and I enjoyed watching it. Thank YOU for making this awesome video!
6:55 you said just how many the victims that we have name of but not that there was found in research that was not finished more than 300 thousand and was estimated anywhere between 700 thousand and 1.2 million. Ustaše were the ones that were praising themselves to Germany about killing around 1.2 million in there( this is very upper limit is from) but German executives thought it's to much and estimated little short of million and even that is more than 10 times more of what you said.
As someone from an ex Yugoslav country, after watching countless videos made by foreigners about Yugoslavia, I came to the conclusion that only we from the Balkan, can make a video that represents the real situation, every foreigner is always missing some key elements.
We are not objective, therefore we are not able to make an truthful documentary about our past.
@@dadarecordz yeah that is also true.
But much more truthful than this one.
Please find one truthful documentary created by somebody from ex Yugoslavia@@dnickaroo3574
@@mkpodkasti227 mogli bismo, kad bi seli zdravorazumski ljudi sa sve 3 strane, stavile sve cinjenice na papir i maksimalno otvoreno pristupili problematici.
having a war game sponsor on a war related video is like having flight simulator sponsor on a 9/11 video
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The Balkans are beyond gorgeous, Middle Earth itself, and the residents of Belgrade once saved my life. I got robbed and stranded, deep inside Serbia, by a Brit from whom I had accepted a ride to Greece. Four-day walk back to Belgrade, in shock when I arrived, with no ID. And, of course, the language barrier. They found someone who spoke decent French. Belgrade then fed me, gave me a bed and a shower, and the next day AMEX managed to redeem all of my cashier's checks before he could cash them. (I had memorized the serial#s.) Belgrade, you're my home. I have loved you, with all my heart, for decades. Thank you for saving my life. ❤
Bon, enfin la France ne nous considère plus comme des tribus carnivores.
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funny thing, I remember reading an interview with Robert De Niro, it had to be the late eighties, where he told a Yugoslav journalist that when he was a college student he went for a trip through Europe and managed to spend most of his money halfway through. He was on a train in Bosnia when he met a local who took pity on him and brought him to his home in Sarajevo. The family fed him and got him a bed to sleep. He stayed there for several days and by the time he decided to leave he was already friends with those people. They even gave him some pocket money. The journalist then asked him if he ever went back to meet them at which he answered, a bit embarrassed, that no, he never got the chance.
Y a pas de quoi 😊
War game sponsorship in Such a Video cmon
I think war game is fine. If it was Lockheed Martin it would be more questionable.
Its a video game dude. Being sponsored by a war video game doesnt mean you support war. Dont try to find a reason to complain and judge everywhere you possibly can.
@@obscureorca chill its just a bit tasteless
@@carf.1455 im super chill, you are the one getting triggered over stupid shit.
@@christiana.1204 frfr
Making a video about a worn-torn region that is traumatised to the bone while be sponsored by a war game is ehm... an interesting choice.
I mean it makes sense, a video about war would attrack people who would be interested in playing such game.
@@JmKrokY Time to move out of your Moms house bro. 🙄
yes there is an irony... but this half hour video, although being concise, hits the target. Yugoslavia might have been product of its time but if you look back long enough it was the wish of almost all Slavs living in this region. The problem is that it came too late to build YU identity and both Yugoslavias failed doing that one with King Alexander and another with Tito. As someone who grew up in that country, I can just say that in many ways it was a good country to live in, and also that I am very, very sorry that it ended up in a bloody war.
I too found irony in the end of the video where discussions of “war torn” countries is juxtaposed by a game called “call of war”… but, thus is the nature of youtube sponsorships and I cannot blame the creator for taking money where its available!
or maybe he meant to say "git gud" to all the people that lost ;)
As a Bosnian-Herzegovinian, it's hard to feel connected.
Youths are poisoned by ideas of hate, and they will grow up and pass on the same ideas.
There is hope, if we forget the criminals from the past, recognize the crimes and continue with our lives.
God bless.
Why I am not suppressed that a Dutch UA-camr doesn't even mentions, that at Srebrencia Dutch peacekeepers run away cowardly during the night?!
Greatest example of Western commitment...
Pot calling the kettle black there. If you have to criticize so badly on somebody providing incomplete information, why don't you add into your criticism the fact that the US, France, and the UK decided against providing the aerial support Dutchbat needed so much, because the English and French were afraid Mladic would take French and British soldiers hostage?
Air strikes were used after the fall of Srebrenica, and were proven to be effective. If that would have happened just weeks earlier, it could have saved a lot of lives and trauma. It might still say something about western commitment, but there wasn't an awful lot Dutchbat could do at the time but to retreat. But I'm guessing that doesn't fit your narrative, does it?
There's a rumour with a few evidences that the muslim side aranged with the british alowence of a bigger war crime in order to get international help so they provoked lokal Serbs braking peace agreement and than pulled back the Duch UN squad. The rest is known. Many Bosnians blame Izetbegovic
@@jdjphotographynlso why did those same countries put a weapons embargo on the people leaving them defenseless
Read Polliticaly Incorrect.news,this page tells real truth.I sugest,that you read story about Srebrenica,and Nikola Tesla.
@@jdjphotographynl Top UN officials, Brit. & Fr., decided that Srebrenica has to happen - and Bihać, but they were 3 hours late - that's the reason why they removed UN armies and weaponry from Bosnia on fields around Tomislavgrad, Croatian place with no threat from any side, "to make some military exercise". Also they brought new armies called RRF, but it wasn't brought to defend civilians either.
The never-ending story of the people with power who are manufacturing crises to divide people to distract them and get what they want.
Russians doing to the US today the exact same thing they did to Yugoslavia back then
But there was already a crisis in Yugoslavia, an economic one. The politicians just took the opportunity.
Yugoslavia could never last forever. It was doomed from the start
@@Annathroyhorseshit .. why not ?
I have never seen a shorter and more accurate TRUE COMMENT ON UA-cam.
From someone who's dad went to this war in his 20s, with a group of men in their 20s. Friends and buddies. I can tell you, they never wanted this fight, from my young age as a kid he always reminded me we are all slavs and I shall never hate or cast shade on fellow Croatian, Macedonian, Bosnian or anyone really. We all know from deep inside our souls Serb would never pull a weapon on Bosnian, Croat or else. Despite the many reasons he had to maybe tell me otherwise. He thought me that unity will prevail and that our love for each other and respect nobody can ruin never like west did then. There are multiple sources with admission of acts in aim of destabilization of Yugoslavia.
I stand by the idea they feared us, united, standing strong. They had to push us to hate each other. Used criminals and extremists to start massacre and bloodshed, where civilians and families were only who lost. Loved ones and friends who they were united with before someone else put their hands onto our lands. We have been constantly invaded and fought for our independence, Nazis, Ottomans, Austro-Hungarians. I mean, whatever people say, at this point, does not matter. I know we are all strong and united we could be even better.
Sadly, there is always something West does not like. They always find an enemy, they have been doing it for decades lately. I cannot understand how such nation always has an conflict with someone. Never takes care of themselves. But is always smart about other parts of the world and is first to take sides and provoke ethnic conflict. Just look at the world. I have nothing to say anymore. Stay doomed not to know your history, and repeat it.
💯💯💯 Third paragraph: follow the money, power.
Hi from SLO.
To Kill A Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia by Michael Parentii ....what you said is covered in this book in detail!
I'm from the area and while there's a lot of love, let's not pretend there wasn't and still isn't a lot of animosity between the different groups that have nothing to do with foreign powers. In the end, the country was destroyed because we couldn't get along under a single flag, they just added fuel to the fire. The idea of South Slavic unity was dead before even WWII arrived if you look at the political strife and ethnic tensions in the country in the world war interim period. If it wasn't for the communist autocratic rule, Yugoslavia wouldn't even exist for the next half a century. No wonder it fell so fast after the dictatorship faded away. In the end, the romantic idea of unity met the bleak reality that, while we do love each other, we don't love each other enough to want to live under the same roof. Being neighbors seems to suit everyone the best. It's a shame really, because there's so much more that we could've accomplished together had we really seen eye to eye, but the mutual trust was never there.
If there were no germs of disunity within the Yugoslavs themselves, nobody could have broken you up. It does you no good to put all the blame on foreign forces and not face the truth about the role you yourselves have played. The mass killings and horrible things were done by Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, not by some aliens. Truth is not nice, but you cannot advance if you do not face it.
@@mrgalaxy396 If you read the comments it's simple to understand why Yugolslavia split. There were nations who saw themsleves as central european looking to the west and a nation who looked to the east. This is the main reason why it fell apart. Uncomapatibility about how different nation saw their futures. It was a comedy before the war. For example, Serbia imposed a trade embargo against Slovenia cause Slovenians banned tens of thousands of Serbs form Serbia and Bosnia form entering when they wanted to do their rally shouting This is Serbia ! Long live Slobo ! The so called Rallies Of Truth aka The Serb truth. Slovenia just didn't want anything to do with those medieval rednecks.
I have a feeling that most of the world thinks the former Yugoslavian countries looks post apocalyptic and that we live in tents or have nothing to eat, while going to sleep to sound of bombs like that is just not true we have beautiful cities, nature, beaches we have everything. We are not dirt poor neither. These are all old and unrealistic stereotypes.
Most of the world moved from what was happening 20 years ago.. there are other conflicts around the world
and we are poor.
Better the west thinks that than encourage them to bring their fucked up ways into your beautiful countries, the balkans has been the safest place we as a family have ever visited
shhhh don't tell them, hopefully they leave us alone
@@aleksandargujas2375 the west will rapidly deteriorate more so than it is already over the next decade
27:26 "Why was never anything invested in Kosovo..." On the salary slip at the beginning of each month, there was a "for the Under-developed Kosovo" salary deduction clause, which all the people of Yugoslavia had to pay which went on for decades. A form of mandatory contribution, if you will...
Yes, young people do not know about that, but my parents remember that clearly.
there wore tons of investments in Kosovo during socialism nobody got investments in the 90s as it all went to hell
In the 90s you lost the job only and only because you were Albanian, all schools were closed for no good reason. In the end Serbia started 4 wars and they lost all of them.
@@lulzimkajtazi9654 People lost jobs because they were not productive and appeared at work just to pick up salaries, not because of their nationality. If Albanians were avoiding work on purpose, then you cannot blame Serbs for that. Same thing with terrorist, Serbian police was fighting against terrorist because they were breaking the law of the state they were living in, not because of their nationality. It just happens that those terrorists were Albanians. Leaders of Albanian terrorist organization "Kosovo Liberation Army" were arms, drug and human organ dealers, human traffickers, are after the war were promoted to ministers, prime ministers, presidents of self-proclaimed state of Kosovo, and now imprisoned and trialed in Hague for all those crimes.
What schools were closed? Where's the evidence for those claims? Prishtina had University with classes held in both Albanian and Serbian language. Even today, here in Serbia we have news in Albanian language on Serbian national television, and I remember seeing those since my childhood in the 80s.
Serbia didn't start any war; it was defending its people.
There are no winners in war, but without NATO's help to Albanian terrorists, you'd be typing different story. Albanian government of so-called Kosovo can put their victorious brown nose down and keep lips tightly on US government's ass to enjoy "independence".
@@lulzimkajtazi9654There is historical evidence that Serbia was singlehandedly supplying 60% of the Yugoslavian fund for the underdeveloped, as per Tito's and British resolution. What makes you beleive that ANY Albanian illegal refugee from "Anglo-Saxon arrangement of "Albania" with the collapsing Ottoman Empire in order to keep Bosphorus and Suez in British hands, should be welcomed in Serbia????
>talks about politicians spreading ancient hatreds
>shows Vuk Drašković as some peacemaker
Lol this video is comedy gold
What did u expect from the west homesty and honor?
He shows pictures and videos of demonstrations in Serbia and lies about those being Serbs protesting against the aggression to Croatia, and those protests had nothing to do with that. Those are organized by nationalists, you can see woman wearing a chetnic cap there.
wikipedia historian, and a bad one
@@maniacZesci There was anti war protest in Belgrade but this protest was not on off it,Milosevic wanted to save Yugoslavia and this guy in beard wanted Monarchy Serbia
Taj čovek je radio za Ciu, kada je 9 marta 91 izašlo pola mil ljudi protiv rata u HR on stupa taj dan na scenu. każe da su ljudi izašli da protestvuju laži koje se o njemu pričale na dnevniku.Koliko se laži redovno izgovara pa ljudi nisu izašli. Milosevic morao da istera vojku i tenkove na ulicu.
Very questionable sponsorship
Very questionable narrative too. Anyone who blames just one side in a war is not objective. In takes always 2 or more for a war. Never just one side.
@@robotube7361 - Yes, indeed. He mentions the Croatian nationalists and their atrocities in the beginning, but somehow neglects to mention that the pro-independence Croatian nationalists in the 1990s used the exact same symbol? LMAO
"The Weight of Chains" is a much much better documantary.
@@Bike_Lion I agree. The Weight of chains its far more truthful but we all know The others want to play victims and blame the Serbs only and stilck to Western US/NATO propaganda.
the serbs were blamed simply because they were sticking to their guns and refused to bent the knee to USA while the rest went to kiss its ass.
I have spent much time in Slovenia, Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia, and I agree that they are some of the nicest people in Europe.
Bigest mafia in Europe :D
Serbs just Turkish orthodox
As a Bosnian Serb, I will hardly disagree with you on that. Until you get to know them better, you will find out that they are some of the rudest, sneakiest people you have ever met in your life
@@majavojvodichmaybe you judge by your own experience, I don't think you should generalize everyone
@@majavojvodich your actually right.
NATO came to stop the war? Ok, that's it for me. I'm out.
Aight I was reading the comments first and I'm not gonna watch the video. Thx for saving me time.
Agree total misconception US wanted to break up succesfull socialist state what a western propaganda
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Nato and America аlways come to free the people from their freedom.
Same here.
What a stupid comment. Yes they did stop the war. Believe it or not. You are either a Serb or a conspiracy theorist from a western country. There is no other way to spew such a stupid comment.
30:34 This guy is living in his bubble. Majority of Serbs are not supportive of Kosovo independence.
Sure Serbia did not invest in it, Milosevic's regime allowed militant groups to commit revenge for acts of terrorism committed by KLA (UCK) which are also a terrorism. But Albanians started it first, and they used force and brutal tactics, then when they got the equal response they started playing victims. This should be resolved with re-integration but with equal rights for everyone and certain higher authonomy status like it had in the past, but before that, we in Serbia need to get rid of Vucic and do democratic reforms, to have independent, strong and transparent government institutions.
@@milutinkethere won´t be any re-integration. Kosovo is independent, Serbia should get its shit together and accept reality.
@@leukaj733 nah, we're gonna re-integrate via force, if they don't want a peaceful re-integration, when the time is right. We can wait 1000 years, we have patience. We're slowly building up the army and learning from Russian mistakes.
@@milutinke stop daydreaming you fascist. You shoukd get up and get your life together.
@@leukaj733 Yeah, the first drug cartel in the world to become a state, what a win!
It's funny how many inconsistencies, holes in the narrative and wrong premises fit into just half an hour of a historical "documentary"!
This is on par with some of the lowest budget Hollywood crap.
The guy is a complete amateur regurgitating superficial Western propaganda talking points we have heard for decades.
@@nickmiller4430 - Yes, indeed! "The Weight of Chains" is a much better alternative.
@@Bike_Lionlol the russian sponsored serb propaganda is the truth right. Weight of chains is pure bullshit
I love it how he just skipped on who liberated all South Slavs and what was the price then and later.
Living under the rule of a foreign king is not liberation. ;) It's like we say here, from a horse to a donkey.
These half baked history 'lessons' have great impact on raise of hate and intolerance....
Well said 👍
Yuck, a Western documentary about Yugoslavia. Just throw it in the garbage
You don't like a person just because of where they were born? How stereotypical.
@@jack-ht4tb Jack, you've exactly 0 clues about what you're talking about. Western media and creators fail to grasp the complexity of corruption, uneducated population and the historical context of Yugoslavian downfall. They also regularly fail to mention what US black ops did to spark the Yugoslav downfall by shoveling millions in the hands of politicians in order to break-up Yugoslavia. As you'll recall, US didn't like communists, and even though Yugoslavia never bothered anyone, US couldn't have it. The tensions didn't break out purely because of the rhetoric of the politicians. That might've been about 20% of it. The other 80% is US money.
When Slobodan Milosevic fell, he fell due to a "student" organisation named OTPOR (meaning Resistance) that fought to end him. Now if you turn on your brain for a bit you'll maybe think "oh wait, how did a lowly student organisation have the money and the logistics to get the whole country to rise up?". Hard, cold American-made money. Millions of it.
So yeah, Western documentaries regularly fail to dig through the CIA un-classified documents on Yugoslavia. It's public domain now, go and check. US did more damage in this world than all of the dictators combined in the 20-th century. And the world just stood drunk on dollars and freedom cool-aid.
@@jack-ht4tb Nope, just pointing out that there has been 0 good documentaries so far, made by Westerners, that are good. And this video is no exception.
Šta fali
@@ante3905 Istina brate, fali istina! To Kill a Nation - Michael Parentii
I grew up abroad because of the wars, and this topic has always been personal for me. I started reading the history a few months ago, and I hate that every book says something completely different, especially when it comes to Kosovo. Who can I believe? I know that my parents' stories aren't enough since they didn't experience everything, and the topic is too painful for them to this day - half the odd stuff my mum does are directly explained by her trauma; that's why I decided to read some stuff myself instead of asking her directly. And when researching this topic, I couldn't help but notice the disparity between the situation on paper and the actual situation on the ground: for example, every newspaper article or youtube video talks about ancient hatreds, but my entire family firmly says that they didn't start having problems until the 90s. I met a few fellow yugoslavs of different ethnicities abroad, and there was never any hostility, quite the contrary. So while I didn't get to live in Yugoslavia, I still can't help but feel sad that it fell apart. I don't think a new Yugoslavia will form in my lifetime though - too many politicians from the 90s are still in power.
So thanks so much for making this video, especially because you actually visited the countries and talked to the locals. If someone asks for a brief introduction to the topic, I'll send them this video!
Yugoslavia was a product of its time, once it stopped being needed, people abandoned it.
@@JmKrokYin a way it was a nursery for a lot of the South Slavic nations.
In fact, out of all the republics, only Serbia defended Yugoslavia to the end. The traitors were Ustaša fascist Croatia, Slovenia (killed unarmed 19-year-old soldiers), Bosnia and Herzegovina (killed a convoy of soldiers leaving Sarajevo, including women and medical personnel) and especially the international terrorist organization UCK in Kosovo and Metohija, which killed the unarmed Serbian population, the police as well as the army (later), as well as Albanians who were against terrorism... later the domino effect affected other republics as well, under the threat of NATO and the EU, which are criminal creations, which violated the UN statute, and attacked the SOVEREIGN, INDEPENDENT country of Yugoslavia.
This is actually "The never-ending story of the people with power who are manufacturing crises to divide people to distract them and get what they want. It is a story of modern time OCCUPATION by the NATO criminal organization and the EU (whose members are made up of former colonial powers) + Great Britain.
A gang of domestic traitors and criminals with a corrupt past, with the cooperation of the corrupt MEDIA BBC and CNN, ensured that the world was "informed about the true events where Serbian gangs kill "innocent, peaceful terrorist organizations, the UCK, Ustasha and similar gangs" steeped in the murders of the population. in Kosovo and Metohia, and in Croatia.
Of course, the truth is completely different. So now we have a scenario of ARTIFICIALLY CAUSED WARS in Ukraine, Palestine...etc...
@@drazantodoric6040 hvala Bogu da si napravio komentar ISTINE. Bravo Todorvicu 👏👏👏
@@stevanpejic8517 Hvala. Ali zadatak svih nas,koji smo živeli na teritoriji bivše Jugoslavije, je da se pogledamo iznutra dukoko u našu dušu, da shvatimo gde smo grešili, da proučimo prošlost naše zemlje, prošlost i dokumentovanu istoriju kolonijalnih sila, i da shvatimo da smo ispali glupi,povodljivi i da iz toga izvučemo pouke,DA VIŠE NIKADA NE PONOVIMO ISTU GREŠKU.
GLUPACIMA ću ostaviti da budu glupaci čitav život, a kriminalnim grupama iz inostranstva i domacim izdajnicima se treba suprostaviti.
Zaključak : Svi mi koji živimi na teritoriji bivše Jugoslavije treba biti jasno da smo SVI ISTOG POREKLA, UGLAVNOM IDENTIČNE GENETIKE, DA SMO PRAKTIČNO BRAĆA I ROĐACI, da gledamo sebe i svoje interese, a ne interese koruptivnih korporacija sa ZAPADA....da se vratimo svojim korenima,i svojoj porodici....i da ne upadamo u zamke novih ratova...Da ne bude kao u onoj pripovetci od Laze Lazarevića "Sve će to narod pozlatiti"...
NATO general :
How the Serb army escaped Nato
'They came out of villages when they wanted to, they hid when the weather was good'
Nato commanders, not to say political leaders, became increasingly frustrated by their inability to destroy Serb units.
It was known that Yugoslavia had built an extensive system of underground shelters for its troops, guns and aircraft - a relic of President Tito's era, in preparation for a possible invasion by the Soviet Union. Many of its camouflage techniques, including the use of dummy weapons emplacements, the Serbs had learned from the russians.
Critics of the bombing campaign also said mistakes were the inevitable result of Nato's policy of restricting its pilots to bombing from 15,000 feet or above - a policy dictated not least by political considerations, notably Washington's determination to avoid horrified public reaction to the sight of "bodybags" coming home.
Yet when the western media saw the Serb military withdraw from Kosovo in early June, they saw convoys of Serb tanks, armoured cars, guns, trucks and military equipment untouched by Nato's air assault.
Nato's bombing campaign, with thousand of sorties and the dropping of tens of thousands of bombs, including sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded in damaging just 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo.
Serbs had 50 marines In their hotels and a deal was made ,the Serbs pulled out
Little nation like serbia , then again those serbs are tough .
Calling the Battle of Kosovo a "myth" shows how invested you were in making this video.
Calling it a myth is correct. Because the version the servian state propagates is nothing more than fiction invented exactly for servian nationalism nothing more.
The real battle of Kosovo was a multi ethnic anti ottoman coalition consisting of albanian, bosniak servian bulgar and hungarian lords and soldiers.
But this of course doesn't really help fuel ethno nationalism hence the lying claiming it was only servs.
@@soul8938Moreover, the term “Kosovo” was only introduced by the Ottomans in the 19th century when they founded the Vilayet Kosova. “Besides, ‘Ova’ is an Ottoman word for area. That's why myth is the right term if you don't even have your own term for such an “important” region.
@@eMotta The term "Kosovo" is derived from the Serbian word "kos," which means "blackbird" (specifically, a blackbird of the genus Turdus). The term "Kosovo" itself is believed to have first appeared in Slavic languages in the medieval period. It is most notably associated with the Battle of Kosovo, which took place on June 28, 1389, between the Ottoman Empire and the medieval Serbian state.
The name "Kosovo" was used to refer to the region of Kosovo Polje (meaning "Field of the Blackbirds" in Serbian), which is where the battle occurred. This usage in a Slavic language dates back to at least the 14th century.
@@milutinrs the name kosovo doesnt even derive from servian but bulgarian which ruled the area for a while.
The area was known as Dardania and partly moesia for far longer.
The name is being used temporarily now to avoid confusion.
@soul8938 its Serbian, not servian.
as a slovenian.. we are some lucky bastards..
EDIT: no idea what i expected, but i started a war ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As a Bosniak, you Slovenes are like Mel Gibson to our bloody Jesus Christ from that famous meme 😂
Very lucky
What superficial thinking. . You are also an occupied, banana republic with a huge imposed debt. You will have to pay off the debts for decades. In the end, you will have to pay off the debts of the EU (a gang of corporate banks).
It's not about luck. You are not ethnically mixed and with a history of wars. And for that fact alone no conflict occurred on your soil.
@@drazantodoric6040 Yeah sure. Just keep comforting yourself. Slovenians and Croatians are totally fine without other ex-YU republics.
This video doesnt satisfy me
1. You claim ethnic tensions were manufactured myths but even you couldnt avoid mentioning WW2 massacres, even if you just glossed over it. Where did that hatred spring from?
2. OK, propaganda can push peaceful neighbours to fight, but you fail to address the sheer viciousness of the war. It wasnt "just" murder and rape, but the details of the how of the atrocities which I cant mention here is almost unmatched in human history. The facts dont match your lovey dovey portrayal of the ethnicities.
I'm from Croatia and from what i've heard the Serbs commited some of the worst atrocities you can possibly imagine. If you heard what they did it would disturb you to the core. It was because a lot of them were paramilitary consisting of criminals, one of their commanders was a literal mob boss called Arkan.
@@TheDennys21 Google "srbosjek". A neighbor in one part of formerly Serbian majority Croatia (RS Krajina) had a huge scar across his neck from ww2. He died in 2014, but i saw it and i spoke with him. It was made by Croatians slaughtering Serbians in an orthodox church over a barrel, collecting blood to be sent to Ante Pavelic for his birthday. The church has been demolished in 1994, and a school where all students were picked up and led to that church to be slaughtered was renamed from "memorial home" to "croatian home" in 2015 or so. He survived the slaughter because they were in a rush to kill all the people, so some who still gurgled and showed signs of life were thrown on the pile with the rest of the dead bodies. He woke up that night and crawled out. He was 16. Just a little story of what Croatians did.
ah, just to add. ~1600 Serbians were slaughtered that day in the church.
@@nothinginnumerous what church?
@@TheDennys21 magnum crimen
Having a war game as a sponsor for the history video about Yugoslavia is a dark satire in itself.
Suppressing religion and especially supressing to talk about the atrocities which were commited during ww2 may have been a huge mistake as it didnt really heal the wounds, instead the crimes were put under the carpet and emerged again when economic hardship due to economic mismanagement and horrible leadership. Tito made a huge mistake in taking up those massive IMF loans, which lead to interest going up as much as 20% after the oil crisis. This ruined the economy of the country, combined with a newly emerging upper class because of austerity measures imposed because of those loans. It lead to richer republics complaining about redistribution to invest into poorer republics creating a sort of new nationalism.
Very good documentary!
"It lead to richer republics complaining about redistribution to invest into poorer republics creating a sort of new nationalism."
The only reason Croatia and Slovenia were richer republics in the first place was because the KPJ (Communist party of Yugoslavia) had economic plans for development of SR (Socialist Republics) and Croatia and Slovenia were the 1st ones on the agenda. Once Serbia, Bosnia and Macedonia were supposed to be invested into Croatia and Slovenia suddenly didn't want to contribute but they didn't mind it when the other republics were paying for their economies.
@@mradicevic I dont see that as a contradiction to what I wrote. I was more setting that into the context of a new nationalism by newly emerging economic elites as a consequence of capitalist reforms.
I think loans are an overblown talking point. Ante Marković had $16B in debt and the same amount in cash reserves. Today, each Republic on average owes $160B. No one is any better with their loan situation.
kinda same here and guess what we are made up of 7 major ethnic groups
...+ Croatia and Slovenia were in fact getting everything from Serbia, first complete factories,from 1946 and few years late,r and later raw materials, which were then placed as a finished product on the huge market of Yugoslavia.
The only real loser in that unfair distribution of capital was in fact Serbia (it lost big, best factories, like FM Rakovica in Belgrade), Kragujevac, etc...
"NATO is here to stop the war in Yugoslavia" Sure they are, sure they are.
One good line a friend of mine once said. The one thing many other countries never really pass on, or at least quite as deeply is generational trauma. And that's what has taken root the best and been passed on for many generations now in the Balkans.
France and England have waged wars for well over a millennium. Some of them literally lasting for a century. Yet today even tho they make fun of one another, they get along, trade and dont worry about the past. The Balkans will never be that way. One has to die so the others can move on. There is no "the war is over" there is only waiting. And as soon as the US no longer needs Bondsteel in Kosovo, or is per-occupied with something else, another war will erupt.
One generation has to "move on". We are literally poisoning our children and making sure they or their children will die in a trench one day.
And it has to be Serbia.
@@falconeshield Most likely have to be all the Ex YU countries. Not just one.
you are not, US and Nato still poison you everyday. Do investigate the media.... the money behind it.
You should start again a federation à la brics (kroatia humhum?), as you still share the goods (on shelves from Slovakia to Makedonia) and language.
You, many of you, are a mix of your provinces, as much as the French are for ex. Germany is your real villain, not only as EU representative. And Bruxelles practices the blackmail and regimechange in BigBrother's steps. DO recover eachother to battle your wrongdoers! please!
You are saying that bondsteel is the reason that serbia is such a corrupt state that cant offer nothing to its citizens except hate against its neighbours and ultra nationalism that leads to war?
5:15 correction: thats the dutch flag. The yugoslav flag is blue White red
woops, that Dutch came through there :o
@@ThePresentPast_ trottel
Yep…the Dutch left a good impression in the 90s…
I stopped watching at "NATO is here to stop the war in the former Yugoslavia"
Video start with year 1994 as the start of the conflict. As if nothing happened since 1990 to 1994.
Very convenient missing the 4 critical years and what was done and how and on what territory…
Absolutely no mention of Operation Oluja, nor of the deeds or Izetbegovic nor Tudjman when discussing the civil wars in Bosnia and Croatia. Absolutely no mention of the illegality of NATO intervention from the standpoint of International Law and how debated that was. Everything was our own fault, apparently, while giving the idea that the West was just a passive bystander, while in reality it was heavily invested in assisting the destruction of the country. Jesus, this video is as "objective" as the opinions of a Bronze Age farmer on quantum physics! However, I have to admit it was reasonably well sugar-coated for your average braindead Westerner, although that war video game sponsorship on a video like this is out of touch at best, disgusting at worst
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Is there any mention of Srebrenica? A Serbian genocide of 9000 men in July 1995
Did you even listen to the video? He says multiple times that majority of Serbians were against the war but Milosevic still provoked it...
@@owl2owl So now just cause 1 asshole all of serbs are "bad serb" for other things that got nothing to do with it.
imagine if i branded every german today by A.H. 's doing in ww2, or every american ever a potential school shooter?
I wont go into west's hypocrity cause its insane in every debate not just this when it comes to "civilian casualties" also known as "collateral damage" as to dehumanize it as much as possible
@@charo703 How is your question relevant to anything I said? Yes, the video blames it on nationalistic leadership (and returning to my original comment, it quite obviously blames it only on Milosevic and never even mentions Tudjman or Izetbegovic, which is exactly how you would tell invented fairly tales pretending to be history to an average Westerner), and... did I deny it? What I vehemently question is that the whole Yugoslav debacle is presented as if it was ultimately our fault (and I will specify it this time, by "us" I mean all the people of former Yugoslavia, inclusive of the nationalistic leaderships and everyone who fell for it), when all foreign interventionism and efforts to stir chaos are just never even remotely mentioned, probably accepting the trope that "Oh, it's the Balkans, of course they don't need foreign interventionism, they are savages who just like to kill each other from time to time". Well, no, I'm not having this retarded narrative.
you did not mention any foreign influence behind events before and during break up of Yugoslavia. and they are needed to understand it all better.
Only foreign influence that is worth mentioning is end of the cold war which was also the end of American and Russian economic support. People will go out of their way to search for blame far away but simple truth is that Yugoslav economic system couldnt survive changed world order. Without Soviet threat the west didnt need Yugoslavia anymore but it was never important enough to plot its destruction and risk stability in Europe with it
@@amberanubis8336 than you do not know much about wars.
@@zeljkoljiljak7256 in know more than enough. Im just not blinded by the need to shift the blame on everyone except our societies
@@amberanubis8336 web Are first to blaim but without foreign influence I'm sure we could avoid war
@@zeljkoljiljak7256 um no serbs wanted greater serbia, serbs rejected confederacy
My best friends were Croatians Serbs and Bosnians. I met them all, They were all good people.
For someone who has lived through these events, I have nothing else to say about this video, than to count all anti-western sentiments of people that are extra biased or extra ignorant. And btw, I was personally brainwashed by two CIA agents to vote for my countries independance from that country that kept the name of Yugoslavia for years to come.
Highly sided, fast forwarded with bunch of intentionally avoided details, skipped facts and storytelling self wording descriptions. This is NOT how documentary should be made. I am ready to argue and give a proof of fake descriptions for half of what was said in this video + not to mention avoiding . Why you are making documentaries without making a proper research? You used single book for this and you create partly-truth historical narrative which was far away from a full story.
17:57 you put Vuk Drašković as he is some peacemaker..in that time he was the one of the biggest serbian nationalist with dreams of "greater serbia" and he didn't had nothing against war,he did have against Milošević 'cause of their internal politics. and it was not a "youth protest" against war but a protest against government in organisation of Vuk Drašković and his party and they said that serbian government is in collaboration with Croats. edjucate yourself properly before you make videos,there are numerous incorrect and untrue informations in this video.
agreed, some crucial pieces of information portrayed need to be fixed a.s.a.p.
Vuk Draskovic was a secretary of Mika Spiljak’s office during Spiljak’s mandate as a president of executive council od Yugoslavia (prime minister equivalent). Spiljak was also a president of presidium when winter olimpic games were held in Sarajevo 1984 (before him Tito was on that position). Spiljak was in top five political figures since 1966 after Aleksandar Rankovic was politicaly eliminated. He announced and signed as a president of national parlament constitution from 1974 while second person who signed it was Stane Dolanc (head of federal state security service - Savezna UDBA poslije SDB and in his non-working hours a sponsor and protector of Arkan who was a son of his close friend). Spiljak’s name is often related in a case when former INA CEO Stjepan Djurekovic was murdered after he fled the country and rumors told that Arkan was a person who killed Djurekovic not due his political activity but to hide and protect Spiljak’s son Vanja who was involved in money malversations in INA where he worked. More suspicios came out when iz was discovered that Croatian office of state security also was trying to catch Djurekovic but someone was faster. It was the first time that execution was done by dofferent natinality than the person who was killed because the rule was that everyone will be responsible for their national members in order to avoid national conflict or questions. Returning to Draskovic- he was a highly ranked member of regime and one of the persons who were planned to become hard core nationalist in order to manage part of population that had national ideology or were related to those gruops during WW 2 and before
As someone who was born in Croatia, lived in Bosnia and now Serbia, Yugoslavia was destroyed so that bigger players can take valuable resources from these countries. Simple as that.
Sums it up in a nutshell, if you trace back any conflict between people in the Balkans in the last 150 years (because we never had problems with each other before that) you will always find a foreign entity at play, in the case of the balkans mostly Austrian or German, it was never internal, interesting that...
Jugoslavija je nastala na mitu južnih Slavena. Skupini koja realno nema zajednički jezik niti zajedničku kulturu. Etnicitet se stalno spominje kao nešto nazadnjacko, ali je to prirodno čovjeku. Apstraktne ideje da možemo živjeti pod istim krovom samo ako to želimo ignoriraju čovjekovu prirodu, a rezultat smo vidjeli. Komunizam i jedinstvo su mentalne bolesti. Možemo biti dobri susjedi pa čak i prijatelji, ali nikad nećemo biti braća. Naš pećinski mozak nam to brani i čim prije to svi prihvate, bit će manje mrtvih.
this 100%, war lasted until there was nothing to plunder in the back while people died
...valuable resources lol...
@@vlado9849Follow the money.
Really informative video, but why would you accept a war game sponsor? Especially on this video.
A game like that isn't made to inform people on history, it is made to capitalize on the already existing glorification of war.
Please reconsider your sponsor or clarify.
Its a video game. Its entertainment. He is not being sponsored by the military industrial complex. Its not possible to make such long and high quality videos without sponsors, and the product being sponsored needs to match the population watching the video.
I feel like this creator is in the financial position to choose his sponsors and if he was not, I'd say don't make this video if this sponsor is your only choice.
Glorification of war isn't worth it. I can see he shows negative impacts of war in this video, but I feel like a true anti war stance isn't present in this video. This sponsor doesn't help.
@@MCDorups You feel like, but you dont really know. Its super easy for you to sit at your computer and judge over inconsequential things. Once you make your own UA-cam channel and invest a crazy amount of effort and time into it, and rely completely on that for your living, you can come back and judge.
And video games with war thematic are not glorification of war, thats an extremely stupid perspective.
@@obscureorcaI said if he doesn't have the option to choose a correct sponsor he shouldn't make this video. No matter his (financial)struggles.
You feel like it's inconsequential, but you "really don't know", this channel has a big audience so my guess is people should be worrying about this kind of stuff.
@@MCDorups It is a correct sponsor. It's a video game. There is no glorification of war or violence. You are being unreasonable and looking for an excuse to complain and take a moral high-ground.
He should absolutely do any subject he wants regardless of his financial position. We need smart young people who are independent to research these kinds of topics and educate the general population.
Slovenians and Croats are indefinitely grateful to Slobo for giving them realistic chance to get their states and even better ethnically clean ....
Missed some details regarding Kosovo.
yeah he didnt mention the serbian atrocities in kosovo or the anti albanian policies before the war
@@erdibulku6848 And then some ...
Biggest problem of the video,you we're only talking with people from Belgrade,Sarajevo etc.They don't and they never will represent our countries
country is just land but you are right
Just making and posting this "historical" video online, that's what I see as the biggest problem.
Why did you skip the part how Belgrade attempted to achieve centralism?
It happened being Nato allowed a foreign ethnic (culture / people) to steal Slavic territory
Just one thing. After the war, some statistics came out. In the city of mostar, serbs were about 15% of the population. My mother said she wouldn’t have guessed it was so low. Every police officer was a serb, every professor was a serb… “you get a feeling that they’re 50% percent of the population. And then i found out it was only 15%.” That might be the reason approval was so low in BiH.
Apart from the religious, ethnic and territorial tensions, as a whole. Every place is really beautiful down there.
How did you accept a sponsorship from a video game capitalising on if not glorifying war for a video about what you literally called "the worst conflict in Europe since WWII" and think it was a good idea?
well, I don't know what to say, some elements are well researched, but some important parts are missing, for example, Battle for Vukovar in 1991, Operation oluja, The beggining of war in Croatia and all the massacres, not only in Bosnia. I HOPE YOU'LL READ THIS COMMENT.
Obožavam kad neko izvana priča o stvarima koje ne zna ili nije proživio
Yugoslavia was destroyed on Easter, April 16, 1944, when the Western "allies" bombed Belgrade in order to bring the communists to power!
They bombed all major cities on the territory of Serbia, especially the capital Belgrade, where the majority of Christians are of the Orthodox faith. They were bombed on their biggest holiday, Easter, without any announcement. Then when everyone who could under the fascist occupation secretly celebrated their biggest holiday in their homes.
That bombing was the second major bombing of Belgrade in World War II. The first happened on April 6, 1941, when Adolf Hitler, without declaring war, bombarded the civilian part of Belgrade with heavy bombs. Objects of Serbian cultural heritage were especially targeted, with the national library being hit with napalm bombs...
But it should be emphasized that the bombing by the Western "allies" in 1944 under the slogan of liberating Belgrade from the fascists was far more merciless, and the number of civilian victims was abnormal.
After that, the West, specifically Great Britain in the first place, imposed Tito and his communist rule on the Yugoslavs. And he forbade the royal family to return to Yugoslavia, which had been waiting all this time in London under British "protection and guarantees" that they would be returned to their Royal Court.
On the contrary, they moved the communist dictator Josip Broz alias Tito into the Royal Palace. Banned all democratic institutions, abolished political parties. And all those who were motivated by that were liquidated or sent to concentration camps! The most famous is "Goli otok", on a deserted island in the Adriatic Sea. Thus, Europe had legal concentration camps like Hitler's and Stalin's even after the Second World War.
It is a precedent of historical proportions, which perfectly demonstrates the union of globalists, fascists and communists, which continues to this day.
Burazeru, oslobodi se te udbo-četničke propagande. Nemam vremena o svemu da ti odgovaram, niti mi pada napamet, ali ideja da su saveznici bombardovali samo Srbiju je idiotska - proguglaj malo , dobićeš informacije da su zapadni delovi Jugoslavije bili sušeni od bombardovanja. Split i Zadar su rasturani, mnogo puta bombardovani, na primer. Kao i Zagreb.
Srbija i njeni gradovi su bili legitiman cilj početkom 1944, jer su bili bastion kvislinške vlasti i okupacionih snaga. Srbijom je vlada marionetska vlast kao i u drugim krajevima Balkana. A i zabole me da branim ovde Zapadnjake, nego me nervira strašno ta srpska sklonost ka bednoj jajarskoj večitoj viktimizaciji.
Ne, nismo bili ništa posebno do 1944., da nije bilo Crvene Armije i upada partizana, odnosno NOVJ iz drugih oblasti Jugoslavije, a zatim i mobilizacije i Sremskog fronta... komotno bi Srbija istorijski ostala zapamćena kao nemački satelit u WW2. Kao uostalom i mnoge druge države. Bugarska, na primer.
PS - Srbija je imala 20-ak konc logora na svojoj teritoriji, gde su sprovodjene desetine hiljada rodoljuba, talaca, pripadnika manjina i nepodobnih, i potkazanih. Sprovodili su ih nedićevci i ljotićevci, uz gestapo i ostale strukture. Srbija je bila DRUGA JUDEN FREI zemlja u Evropi, revnosno je počišćena Jevrejska populacija. Nije je bilo mnogo, doduše, ali tako stoje stvari zvanično. Dakako, 100 Srba za jednog Nemca stoji kao fakat takođe, ali Srbe za streljanje i sprovođenje u logore birali su najčešće sami Srbi. Po službenoj dužnosti.
Posle su navodno partizani iz obesti i morbidne ideologije "ubijali cvet srpske mladosti i poštene domaćine".
Jašta, sve pošten domaćin, moj do mojega.
To visit Yugoslavia is to see what history truly means in flesh and blood.
You said that very well ❤👍
United states of Makedonia!
17:57 this man was no better than Milosevic. In the late 90's, to avoid prison/The Hague, he turned against Milosevic... and it worked.
Before that he was one of the biggest nationalists in Yugoslavia and the one who advocated for "Greater Serbia."
Greater Serbia is a Vatican narrative
@thedarkside13 The most fun fact about that sleazy hypocritical greedy butt head is that he was a successful communist while it was marketable.
Giving up Kosovo would be like Italy gave up Rome, Turkey losing Constantinople, or Israel/Palestine losing Jerusalem
Actually - nope. For 500+ years Kosovo remained out from Serbia.
In XX century it remained in Serbia only 3 years - 1912-1915, and then it wasn't. During next 25 years (1918-1943) it was simply the integral part of Kingdom of Yugoslavia. During that part there was no Serbia, no Croatia, no Slovenia, no Bosnia... just Yugoslavia.
Kosovo was REALLY part of Serbia and Yugoslavia, mutally, during period of 1943-1999. Milosevic years 1989-99 provoked Albanians into boycot and whole situation remained very poor politically, apartheid system in reality.
All in all, only communist government managed to keep Kosovo relativelly normal as a part of Serbia, under complicated constitutional position. The moment Milosevic got into the game, it all went downhill.
Heart of Serbia is Shumadia, or Rashka, or other parts. Not Kosovo. Even the Battle of Kosovo was fought by the people who came from other parts of the Balkans / Serbia, not by the native people from Kosovo. It's all a fairy tale that keeps Serbs into slavery of false narrative.
PS - nobody mentions North Macedonia, monesteries and SPC that became MPC. See how narratives are fractured and non-logical. NM was equally part of medieval Serbian state, but somehow - it's not mythologically relevant in these modern political games. Crazy, eh?
You lost me at 2:50 when u didn't include Kosovo!
A “The Present Past” upload always makes my day :D
Socialism kept Yugoslavia together; destroying socialism in Yugoslavia, destroyed Yugoslavia.
Sorry mate, totally off the mark. The breakup of Yugoslavia was funded and supported by the US. The US could not risk the Russians having their military base in the Balkans. Camp Bondsteel is proof. So come back when you are not biased.
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Yes, bark all the blame on one tree and pretend that the SANU nemorandum was never written.
@@ctd325 Dream, US, that the whole world "hates" you...
I remember being told my grandpa was 100% Irish, when I asked my uncles they laughed and said, “the biggest chunk is Irish, but he’s a mutt. After Yugoslavia broke up, I think we counted 12 nationalities.” Made me chuckle before I realized how deadly the breakup was. Working towards a world filled with peace
he lost me at "nato is here to stop the war"
He is Talking b…. Shit
Kosovo is a really important historical and monumental region for Serbs. It contains centuries old important cultural heritages, extremely valuable for Serbs for ex. Patriarchate of Peć which was the first seat of Serbian Patriarchs (1346.). If this guy thinks the opinion of his applies to a big share of Serbia's young, he's greatly mistaken. I personally think most people would agree Kosovo is an integral part, not only politically but historically, as it is so deeply ingraved in our history and it's quite impossible to completely disregard it and label it as unimportant.
14.30 Show all of Milosevic's Kosovo speech! It was actually quite peaceful not nationalistic! Here is an extract of his speech: "Serbia has never had only Serbs living in it. Today, more than in the past, members of other peoples and nationalities also live in it. This is not a disadvantage for Serbia. I am truly convinced that it is its advantage. National composition of almost all countries in the world today, particularly developed ones, has also been changing in this direction. Citizens of different nationalities, religions, and races have been living together more and more frequently and more and more successfully."
Ethnic identity will destroy a multi-ethnic nation.
NATO was not there to stop a war, but to ensure it ends as it wanted. And it ended with ethnic purification of mostly Serbs, not Croats...
Riiiiight! Nato = Bad; Serbia = Good
@@Flavor88 Right!!! NATO = Good 😂
"2024 WORLD PRESS FREEDOM INDEX" table at 23:55 does not match your source (RSF - Reporters Without Borders)
Great video though!
Yes, that table was very weird to me! Now i see why.
The World Press Freedom index is compiled by RSF, but maybe you know of another index?
@@ThePresentPast_ I don't know why is UA-cam filtering my comments but let's try one more time - by your very source, that table is not true. Please check it as I cannot put a link here since then my comment gets hidden.
@@ThePresentPast_ I'm not arguing the credibility of the index, I'm simply stating that the table data provided in the video (23:55) is not the data provided by the stated source (sources, page 8, page footer, RSF unnumbered source between sources 46 and 47) i.e. the numbers do not match.
RSF 2024 World Press Freedom Index of former Yugoslavian countries ordered by score (higher is better) and rank:
Country - Actual score (#world rank) - Video stated score
North Macedonia - 73.78 (#36)- 74.35
Montenegro - 73.21 (#40) - 74.28
Slovenia - 72.60 (#42) - 74.89
Croatia - 68.79 (#48) - 75.87
Kosovo - 60.19 (#75) - 70.45
Bosnia-Herzegovina - 58.85 (#81) - 68.12
Serbia - 54.48 (#98) - 76.01
I've noticed this, since Serbia is well known for its poor press freedom.. And it was first on your list (from the Yugoslav countries). Its press freedom (#98) is akin to that of countries like Tanzania (#97), Chad (#96), Israel (#101) or Kenya (#102)
The other countries (rank and score) seem to be wrong as well. Norway was put as 91.98 while its actual score is 91.89. Denmark is stated as 90.21, actual score 89.60. You've put Lithuania 10th just in front of Germany, while in the RSF index, Germany is 10th and Lithuania 13th. You also put Russia in 39th place with a score of 65.45, while they are actually 162nd with a score of 29.86.
Religion was not suppressed, it was just that religious people had no place in politics because they would side with their ethnic group and would create what would inevitably become the Yugoslav Wars in the 90’s
A good book about Yugoslavia is "To Kill a Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia" by Michael Parenti.
i saw his lecture on that topic - loved it. Parenti is absolutely amazing - as well as his lectures. Love the man!
❤ as a Serb that was growing up in Yugoslavias republic Serbia it is hard to understand why a beautiful country as Yugoslavia was destroyed by the West as the Varsow pact was dead at 1989 Berlin Wall takedown.
Because divide and conquer my friend.
mali, niti ces ikad ista razumeti, ako mislis da je Zapad kriv za nase muke.
TITO WAS A MASTER OF FOREIGN POLITICS, BUT IN DOMESTIC POLITICS AN AMATEUR.
I appreciate your efforts trying to paint an unbiased overall picture. To fully understand (if that's even possible), a much deeper dive into the historical periods is essential though.
Pozdrav to all people with good will from someone who grew up in SFR Yugoslavia, whose Serbian great grandparents had to flee from the ustaša in WW2 from Bosnia to Serbia and whose other Croatian great grandpa was ki*led in Croatia, after protecting his Serb friend from the ustaša, who wanted to wall him up alive, then got beaten up and died as a result of the injuries.
The Biggest mistake for Serbs was to follow King Aleksandar's decision to join the Kingdom of SHS (later Yugoslavia) after WW1
Biggest mistake was fall of Obrenović dynasty and thus bringing Anti Serb Karadjordjević fagots
You actually trained AI voice modules of the leaders to sound English. That is just next level youtubing. Subbed!
One more propaganda anti-Serbian video with a little twist. Blending truth with a propaganda is the most dangerous type of video because ordinary viwer (which doesnt have enough history knowledge on the matter) is easier to be convinced.
1990’s Yugoslavia / balkan wars are just the 1800’s nationalist wars of Europe that were delayed in that region until 1990’s
Yes, could've saved the viewers some time ;)
@@ThePresentPast_lol, I loved the video. As a history buff, you are probably my favorite channel.
I always wondered what the difference was between Yugoslavia and Germany at the time of unification in the 19th century. “Germany” use to have many different German dialects/languages, they were split on religion (Protestant vs Catholic), etc.
the Balkan Wars are a defined historiographical term meaning the two wars fought in 1912 and 1913
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson you don't know that we Croats always had strong national identity and defended it from Hungarian ivaders!
17:57 this man was no better than Milosevic. In the late 90's, to avoid prison/The Hague, he turned against Milosevic... and it worked.
Before that he was one of the biggest nationalists in Yugoslavia and the one who advocated for "Greater Serbia."
He is Milosevic 2
This video lost me right at the beginning. At NATO was here to prevent war. When In reality, NATO supported and encourage separatist in Yugoslavia and practically contributed for the destruction.
What separatist?
People rose up to fight for their freedom beaucuse they had enough of that fake federation.
Serbia is the one that started the war tho. They didn't have to attack other Yugoslav nations. Did the UK attack Scotland or did Spain attack Catalonia for wanting independence? So by your logic if Spain attacks Catalonia tomorrow people that support catalonia today are to blame for the war?
@@og_clock why did Spain imprisoned the guy who wanted Catalonia independent? Why the west not allowed referendum for the people to decide whether they want to stay with Spain or not? While west helped Albanian separatist to take Kosovo, but the serbs in bosna cannot have independence. That's a hypocrisy. And the serbs did not start the war. I am from Macedonia which was part of Yugoslavia. I know the history better than you.
@filipkirovski5823 "The West" doesn't decide who can do a referendum. The referendum in Catalonia was violating the constitution of Spain but according to the Yugoslav constitution individual republics were allowed to have a referendum and leave. Serbs in RS didn't even have a referendum in Yugoslavia because RS didn't even exist as a separate entity and RS attacked Bosnia with the help of Serbia. They were the agresors and the current constituiton of Bosnia which RS signed doesn't allow for secession. "The West" didn't help Albanians in Kosovo. The United Nations asked Serbia repeatedly to stop killing Albanians in Kosovo and Serbia didn't stop that's why there's a UN peacekeeping mission in Kosovo right now.
@filipkirovski5823 If Serbs in Bosnia wanted independence they should've asked for a referendum after Bosnia became independent instead of attacking it. Tell me then who started the war and when? Tell me the date of which some Yugoslav Republic or some other country attacked Serbia?
NATO destroyed our beautiful country 😢
I guess you've made a fair video. However, one remark - on the animated illustration of Yugoslavia falling apart you have clearly broken Bosnia and Herzegovina into two pieces implying it was split in two countries, and even said during the video that "Bosnia was devided according to ethnical lines". That is not true. Bosnia-Herzegovina is still single country, made of two entities. Ethnical lines are only inside of some ethno-nationalist heads, but legally it's one country with two entities quite similar to federal states seen in some other countries.
People this is all Wikipedia history. Bottom line is Second Yugoslavia (1945-1990) was a British&US project established by communist force the invaded and occupied Serbia in 1945. Main purpose of this is slow dissolution of Serbia (ccomunists commited mass m in Serbia-over 100.000 Serbs where killed and robbed in 1945, factories, villas, gold all "appropriated" during executions). When they did not need it anymore US&UK (a bit of Germany too) decided to organize the war in Yugoslavia and to establish a militarily base in Kosovo. Its simple US invasion and occupation.
First one too
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@@peterhandke3936 Lost your meds?
@@harbinger200 ko bi rekao da bas prvosrbijancic bolesnik to pita?
Another "documentary" where all sides in wars have victims except Serbia, which is always the scary aggressor.
When u don,t know the face of u enemy u are doomed to lose
On the contrary, this has been an extremely pro-Serb and pro-cosmopolitan 'documentary': the Croats were fascist lunatics, Hungarians and Italians were nothing more than 'foreign' aggressors, and Austrians were just generally a**holes, while the murderer of a marital couple, making their children orphans and dragging the world into war, was a hero and a visionary. What a truly objective piece of work it is!
We Serbs truly are a master of genocides - we are truly the only ones whos genocides decreased our population by hundreds of thousands in regions at question. Truly remarkable.
@xentiment6581 you just suck at fighting. You wanted to expand, but ended up shrinking. Though luck :)
Pomaži bože ☦️☦️
When you see two fish quarrelling at the bottom of the see, an Englishman is somewhere around.
This video is (ofc in my opinion) beyond disgusting. If you are going to make a video like this, at leaste change the title. But if you want to make a good and informative video that goes so shallow into the problem such as this one, you'll at leaste need to find an expert interlocutor that would probably help you with the point of view. Almost every university history professor would be very keen on helping you or at least refering you to someone who will. Really shameful. I would honestly delete the video.
its likely on purpose
I'm sure the comments under this one will be civil and well mannered
Why wouldn't they be?
@@JmKrokY have you never seen discussion on this topic online before?
so far I have not read anything negative or hateful
@@theawesomeman9821 i was surprisingly (but thankfully) wrong lol
TheyTube deletes my comments. I have things to say you would not believe.
america said that they bombed yugoslavia to make milatary base in kosovo...
Disliked for the sponsor. Bro is desperate
" The weight of chains 1, 2, 3" from Boris Malagurski would give you better insight.
A lot of complaining here yet no one is making a better version. This is first time I am watching and learning something about the former Yugoslavia. The presentation was fair and balanced in my opinion. If you keyboard warriors can do better then please do so and I will be more than willing to watch and learn. Until then quit complaining!!!
troll farms are gonna troll
TEŽINA LANACA 1,2,3 - Boris Malagurski ua-cam.com/video/waEYQ46gH08/v-deo.html
It was many factors, but one man had to pleasure himself with a glass bottle.
Really Dude , Now tell me the true story of your the OVERRACE Dardainiannas in 5000 BC , or havin a statue of bill clinton in THE BEST CITY IN the WORLD 🤣
I recommend documentary movie about collapse of Yugoslavi called "The Weight of Chains".
lots of misinformation in this video, for instance economic crisis lasted until 1987 when inflation was taken under control with the program from A. Markovic, and not until 1990. Those 4 years until war started in 91 was the best years for country by the economic standpoint.
Can you talk about how. The country of Chile became fascist during ww2
There are always some things that missing. I think that guilt for breakup of Yugoslavia is shared between republics, because it is very similar to end of a marriage, there are always two sides of a story.
You forgot to mention western marriage consultants that saw a big opportunity for them in the brake up of Yugoslavia and war in it.
@@andydufresne9593 What western consultants before 1995? Btw ICTY statistics say otherwise
@@beiragusa you didn't get the point but that's ok. EU had it's fingers all over Yugoslavia before the war started, but Milosevic didn't want to do anything with EU and Nato. So the EU and US secretly armed the Croats and assured them they would help in case of war, witch they knew was inevitable in that constellation of power.
And don't mention ICTY because it's only real use was to make the Serbs bad guys of Europe after the war.
@@andydufresne9593 Incorrect. Croatia was under arms embargo, arms were from captured jna barracks and bought illegaly from collapsed soviet union. West didn't enter conflict until 1994 in Bosnia. Entering Eu as yugoslav confederation was Stjepan Mesic plan to save Yugoslavia. ICTY was global tribunal that included countries from even third world. Incorrect on every term, typical serb propagandist "equally guilty" "cia destroy yugoslavia" hur dur
@@andydufresne9593 Incorrect. Croatia was under arms embargo, it got its weapons from captured Jna barracks and from collapsed soviet union, Russians sold million ak's at price of 160$ a piece, including mig 21's later. There was no western involvement in war in Croatia at all, and not anywhere until 1994 Bosnia. Plan for yugoslavia to enter eu as confederation was proposed by Stjepan Mesic, a Croat politician, in 1990 as a means to prevent war and save yugoslavia as a whole. ICTY was international tribunal, even third world countries participated, conclusions are clear. You are incorrect on every term, as is expected of serb propagandist, slowly trying to paint the conflict as ''everyones fault'' or ''cia destroyed yugoslavia'', it was clear serbian agression! Relativism and revisionism were always strong sides serb propaganda, Just like when you suddenly remembered to make a resolution about ww2 camps, month after you were presented with a resolution of your war crimes in Srebrenica, 30 years ago. But it will never be forgotten!
I visited Bosnia-Herzegovina, the countryside. There were small towns that had been through the war. As in Sarajevo, they had not repaired the facades of buildings battered by bullets and mortar -- a reminder of the past. There were still landmines in some areas. Some little villages were primarily Muslim and some more Catholic in the same region. I was told it was unwise to wander into the Muslim villages; there was still some tension, decades later. During the fighting civilians took shelter in the local convent.
there were also the Domobranci who were the fascics Slovenes who wanted to make Slovenia free and alied to Germany.
and no, we never lived in a „diverse nation“ Slovenia was always a homogenious Slovene society witch was unfortunately always ocupied and backstabed
I think he meant Yugoslavia as a whole
@Rade-yy7geyoure right, i honestly dont know other hostories than slovene so i cannot speak on that but it is very bad that he got away woth so many mistakes
Not Ethnic lines. Those lines weren't ethnic, they were deliberately drawn politically, not ethnically.
Google for the "Yugoslavia ethnic map 1980".
The Yugoslavian internal administrative lines were drawn with something else in mind and they were not real "states within federation".
You cannot be Slavic and Macedonian at the same time since Macedonians were speaking greek.
To understand 90s war i recommended the best movie on that topic
LEPA SELA LEPO GORE ( PRETTY VILLAGES PRETTY FLAME ) you have it with enlish subtitles,u wont regret it,if u like and interested in Yugoslavia land of honey and blood.
FALSIFIKAT FILM 🎥 : PRAVI NAZIV " Lepa SRPSKA sela lepo gore a ružna ostaju ružna i kad gore " ( zločini nad civilima u vojnicima Srbima i decom i bebama u pet opština pod kontrolom VRS Vojske Republike Srpske od 1991 - 1995 .godine ) ... Vođa ZLOČINAČKE BANDE sa više od nekoliko 1000 vojnika naoružanih do zuba divizije u sastavu LAŽNE ARMIJE Bosne i Hercegovine u LAŽNO DEMILITARIZOVANOJ enklavi u gradu Srebrenici pod zaštitom NIZOZEMSKIH VOJNIKA UN ... odmazda za nastavak zločine nad civilima iz WW2 nastavljena u WW3 do kraja nad Srbima civilima u Podrinju MUSLIMANSKE MUŠKARCE VOJNIKE STIŽE KAZNA U avgustu 1995.godine ... nije bilo genocida nad njima samo je preživeli od nekoliko 1000 izginulih u obruču VRS u proboju prema gradu Tuzli zarobljeno do 1000 njih pokušali su bekstvo i svi vojnici čuvari su ih pobili u samoodbrani ... Groblje u političarima je muslimansko vojničko groblje a ne LAŽNI GENOCID ... Groblje u Bratuncu je groblje završenog genocida iz WW2 u WW3 nad civilima u vojnicima Srbima ... Bil Klinton i Hilary treba nam povod da NATO Luftwwafe bombarduje VRS - Vojsku Republike Srpske i VRSK - Vojsku Republike Srpske Krajine ... TREBA NAM SREBRENICA predsedniče Alija Izetbegović SKLONI i Zaštitu NASERA ORIĆA sve ostale žrtvuj ... TOK ISTORIJE ... MileR 001 ... Srpska Nikita 🇷🇸 ...
Yugoslavia was an experiment. Same as, fascism, democracy...it was an zionist/communist experiment. Tito was not even Yugoslavian, because when he spoke...he sounded like someone who learned our language. He was also for sure 33 degree grand mason, that is why he got so much recognition in the rest of the world. Yet, he once spoke on TV prior to the war, that we as Yugoslavians have to stick together and especially hold Bosnia together as a mixed ethnicity heart of Yugoslavia. The Mossad, CIA, MI6, we're operating prior to conflict and financing all back than and today's political parties in order to create the none existing conflict. Milošević, Tuđman and Izetbegović were financed and put in place to play their roles. What they all did was, they opened all jails and gave criminals weapons,drugs and uniforms and go and kill, rape and plunder in order to create blood conflict. Yugoslavia was sold out, because they knew they can't control a country which owed them nothing. After WW2, Yugoslavia borrowed 23 billions from IMF, and prior to Tito's death, paid 22 billions back, had youth and weapons to defend it from outside threats but never have they thought that those weapons they paid with generations, will be used against them by selected traitors. Germany instigated the split up with Helmut Kohl and Genscher who supported Croatian Slowenien and Bosnian Independence, yet when Serbs attacked those countries... Germans said , we have nothing to do with it. At the same time after splitting of Yugoslavia, all EU got well educated immigrants from ex Yugoslavia to work for cheap while at the same time controlling new established countries with a new debt.
Finally someone who understands, Kudos to you!
I lived for 40 years in Serbia and rest of the Balkan, this is the best video so far that summarizes the whole thing perfectly well and all within 30 minutes. Of course you will have those telling you how you missed this or that, but you didn't, it's perfect - these people can discuss the war and politics for days on end, but it really isn't all that complicated as they are led to believe. Overall great vid, subscribed.
Smešan video, kao i svaki drugi koji su zapadnjaci snimili na ovu temu.
When som one say the west i hear this.
London brige is falling down falling down falling down London brige is falling down hell it,s abut time bye bye west
we don't need your us lies in video........make videos of your country who ever you are
And Monika Levincky, jou forget to say...