love your ghost notes. nice and soft. thats what you do really well in this video. you have really soft ghost note control. Its noticable and impressive
Oh Man! Great, GREAT lesson! I played this tune when I was 14 years old! I was a prodigy and the bass player helped me tremendously! He worked it out exactly how you did with 323! And he kept me going when I stumbled a LOT in the beginning...YOU are such a wonderful teacher! The guys at MI are lu"ky to have you! You have an amazing bedside manner and can play the heck out of the drums! Thank you for taking me way back to some great memories!
Awesome video! I pulled up keep it greasy to practice the other day and for some reason I remembered it was in 17/16. I sat there for like 45 minutes trying to figure that s*** out and finally gave up. Thanks for this awesome exclamation! I guess it's my time was good enough, I could have played 17 against 19 and it would have worked out and maybe lined up once every 52 Bars LOL
"A Bar of 5/4 with one 16th missing" perfect. Its a bit like Spanish Moss by Billy Cobham, where you fall off the end of the bar the same way. 3:49 could be Balkan like ivo papasov. odd meter is awesome for soloists.. Aber beklecker nicht Das sofa, sofa!
Saying the pattern is 3, then 2 then 3 was a bit confusing until I saw the chart then it made sense ( right hand plays 3,2,3) . Should have said groupings of 7,5,7. Really like the addition of accents. Makes it sounds way more complex
Patrick O'Hearn described a better trick than "subdivide down to twos and threes", and that is to subvocalise some phrase with that number of syllables in it. So, for example, 11 would be |: I would like to go to the mo-vies to-day :|.
@@clydebillingsworth8574 Could I ask is it best played for most bassists by incorporating the open A, or by using more fretted notes? I'm talking about the main riff of course. Thanks in advance
@@ManicMovesDrowsyDreams i can't pretend I know this too well. I play with four strings since 5 is hard to count. But this guy knows some Zappa and is much better at bass than I. I just figure get it real close and improv. I've listened to a lot of versions of this song and it's got a main line but the drums seem to be what holds it together. The bass has a bit more freedom. ua-cam.com/video/IPvsNt6jsD4/v-deo.html
3:33 in your 2's / 3's approach: those types of 2's and 3's are actually 5's and 7's... whenever I hear a 2 like that I automatically think 5, and a 3 like that I automatically think 7 the 2 is actually 5/16, the 3 is actually 7/16. when you do 3+2+3, it's really 7/16+5/16+7/16 = 19/16
yeah i think he was misinterpreting the 2s and 3s thing; it really means that each group of 7 is 2+2+3 and each 5 is 2+3, so the whole thing is 22323223
jd bulciolu it’s a loop based on and inspired by the bass line at the jam at the end of the tune, simply something to play over. Thanks for checking it out.
Muscle memory plays a huge role in music and instrument playing. Down the path, math will almost always be needed but they are not mutually exclusive or competing.
Muscle memory is how you FEEL the groove. You can count all you want and know the math, but these things all have a groove, and if you can’t feel it, it’ll never sound right
You don't understand how humans work. We learn something new using our higher brain functions, the "math", the mechanics etc. but in order to repeatedly perform the same thing correctly over time we always rely on "muscle memory", the so called long term memory. If you'd have to re-analyze something like this groove in your brain all the time while playing it, your brain would quickly melt.
Very cool. Ryan Brown did an amazing breakdown of the Zappa grooves. Borlai is pretty amazing too like you said. What do you for a breakdown of the 21/16 section in the song?
This is the best explanation I’ve seen. Thanks!
love your ghost notes. nice and soft. thats what you do really well in this video. you have really soft ghost note control. Its noticable and impressive
"Celestial Terrestrial Commuters" by Mahavishnu Orchestra is in 19/16.
But, that one's not about keeping it greasy though ;)
This is the first time I’ve been able to comprehend the time signature, very well explained, thank you so much.
Oh Man! Great, GREAT lesson! I played this tune when I was 14 years old! I was a prodigy and the bass player helped me tremendously! He worked it out exactly how you did with 323! And he kept me going when I stumbled a LOT in the beginning...YOU are such a wonderful teacher! The guys at MI are lu"ky to have you! You have an amazing bedside manner and can play the heck out of the drums! Thank you for taking me way back to some great memories!
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Great vid - will definitely follow you page. Zappa and Vinnie were king!
Thank you for the demonstration of this fantastic time signature
All you gotta do is grease it down and everything is fine.
Awesome video! I pulled up keep it greasy to practice the other day and for some reason I remembered it was in 17/16. I sat there for like 45 minutes trying to figure that s*** out and finally gave up. Thanks for this awesome exclamation! I guess it's my time was good enough, I could have played 17 against 19 and it would have worked out and maybe lined up once every 52 Bars LOL
A great breakdown of a fun groove!
Thank you.
There’s a section at the end of the dream theater song “home” in 19/16. Awesome lesson
Nice pull! Thanks for watching!
True, dream theater is awesome
Phantastic, thanks so much!
you killed it at the end, nice playing
Great Stewart!
Miss MI and the talk and the hang. I hope this COVID19 shit soon will come to an end so I can get back to MI
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Nice lesson!
"A Bar of 5/4 with one 16th missing" perfect. Its a bit like Spanish Moss by Billy Cobham, where you fall off the end of the bar the same way. 3:49 could be Balkan like ivo papasov. odd meter is awesome for soloists.. Aber beklecker nicht
Das sofa, sofa!
Nice!!!!
“See what sticks” 😂 great like for a drummer.
Ha yes!
Oh yeah it goes down easy!
nice one chap.
Nice 👍
Saying the pattern is 3, then 2 then 3 was a bit confusing until I saw the chart then it made sense ( right hand plays 3,2,3) . Should have said groupings of 7,5,7. Really like the addition of accents. Makes it sounds way more complex
Patrick O'Hearn described a better trick than "subdivide down to twos and threes", and that is to subvocalise some phrase with that number of syllables in it. So, for example, 11 would be |: I would like to go to the mo-vies to-day :|.
I do this song by going "one, two, three, four, ho-li-day" and repeat.
Now do one for He Used To Cut The Grass lol
Never even noticed that this song had anything complicated going on with the drums. That's probably because I play bass but still, wow
It's a quick bass groove but us bassists would be ridiculously lost without a tight drummer on this.
@@clydebillingsworth8574 Could I ask is it best played for most bassists by incorporating the open A, or by using more fretted notes? I'm talking about the main riff of course. Thanks in advance
@@ManicMovesDrowsyDreams i can't pretend I know this too well. I play with four strings since 5 is hard to count. But this guy knows some Zappa and is much better at bass than I. I just figure get it real close and improv. I've listened to a lot of versions of this song and it's got a main line but the drums seem to be what holds it together. The bass has a bit more freedom.
ua-cam.com/video/IPvsNt6jsD4/v-deo.html
@@ManicMovesDrowsyDreams fretted, 5 then 3 on the A string, down to 5 on the E, back to 5 on the A
@@boston5814 okay so don't use the open A for that part. That feels better thanks
Muito bom...Obrigado por essa pérola...
Fernando Gonçalves você é bem vindo
What are the chances you have a download of this loop? Playing with Ike Willis in a couple weeks and I gotta get my 19 together!
Am I on the wrong channel? Where does the lube come in?
3:33 in your 2's / 3's approach:
those types of 2's and 3's are actually 5's and 7's... whenever I hear a 2 like that I automatically think 5, and a 3 like that I automatically think 7
the 2 is actually 5/16, the 3 is actually 7/16. when you do 3+2+3, it's really 7/16+5/16+7/16 = 19/16
Yep agreed. That's the way
yeah i think he was misinterpreting the 2s and 3s thing; it really means that each group of 7 is 2+2+3 and each 5 is 2+3, so the whole thing is 22323223
I think I'm greasy enough now...
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Check out this cover of Tom Petty’s Wildflowers: m.ua-cam.com/video/ossFdDmqtDA/v-deo.html
it doesn't sound like keep it greasy from frank zappa, though... nice lesson btw.
jd bulciolu it’s a loop based on and inspired by the bass line at the jam at the end of the tune, simply something to play over. Thanks for checking it out.
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I'm not a musician....but my gut feeling tells me that muscle memory is the wrong approach. Must be better to fully understand the math involved.
Muscle memory plays a huge role in music and instrument playing. Down the path, math will almost always be needed but they are not mutually exclusive or competing.
@@biorage6670that sounds like "winging it"
Muscle memory is how you FEEL the groove. You can count all you want and know the math, but these things all have a groove, and if you can’t feel it, it’ll never sound right
You don't understand how humans work. We learn something new using our higher brain functions, the "math", the mechanics etc. but in order to repeatedly perform the same thing correctly over time we always rely on "muscle memory", the so called long term memory. If you'd have to re-analyze something like this groove in your brain all the time while playing it, your brain would quickly melt.
Very cool. Ryan Brown did an amazing breakdown of the Zappa grooves. Borlai is pretty amazing too like you said. What do you for a breakdown of the 21/16 section in the song?
Look for Aussiedrumnerd on youtube as he breaks down the 21/16 section as well
tdrum21 I add two 16th notes :)
Is there a way to get these play along links you make on these? I love them
tdrum21 let me see what I can work out for you.
The loops can be found here:
www.stewartjean.com/