Bought skx007 after your comments and have to say it has become my go to daily, it does exactly what it says on the tin, I'm a motor mechanic by trade and this is a tough usable piece of equipment. Thanks for the great advice.
Great video. The SKX was released two years after I joined the Navy, was my first mechanical watch, and still in my rotation. It’s been with me all over the world in my 24 year Military career. I “upgraded” to a Seiko SRP777, but I just don’t love it the way I love my SKX. I’ve been through a million straps and bracelets with this watch and I’ve had it on a Seiko jubilee for the past year or so. Gotta own the “jangle”.
So sir.. as a naval personnel you dont have any problem with the skx w/ no hacking/winding feature. Thers something feels while wearing this iconic watch for me
Just pulled the trigger on the SKX007! Last one at my local watch shop. Found it in a hidden corner right next to the 5 series for a great price. Couldn't be happier!
I come back and watch this video every now and then to remind myself how smart I am for buying an SKX007. This time I noticed that I could round up the comments up to 800. You’re welcome. 😂. Love the channel. Keep it up, man.
My SKX007 is still running well after 15 years. I paid $105 for it and never looked back. I thought about upgrading the movement and doing cosmetic stuff but decided not to worry about it.
Replaced the 7s26 to NH36 and my SKX is been a dream since. Literally running like a quartz now with about +-0.5 a day. And everything is aligned in my SKX! The only thing that is bad is that I ruined my case a bit with bezel removals when I removed the bezel few years ago for cleaning while being unexperienced. But i just brushed it manually with some sand paper and its better now.
Overrated? Probably not for a 20 year old watch but clearly brands like Orient have surpassed it's features. You cant argue with it's iconic status though.
Tree Dillinger if it was it would have a cheap cyclops copy, a 3 o’clock crown and the same indexes, the same hands, same case, I could go on......it’s not a Steinhart. I do feel that a lot divers look similar to the untrained eye tho👍🏻
vinny8vinny ok, it’s not an exact copy, but come on. The dial, the bezel, the bracelet. They didn’t design it out of thin air. If anything they very specifically changed a couple of features so that they can call it their own. It’s not just the divers, look at all their watches. Look at vintage Seikos from the 70s. 90% of them are fake Datejusts. You can’t tell me it’s not a blatant rip-off. Oyster bracelets, jubilee bracelets, rotating bezels, fluted bezel, screw down crown. That’s really all Seiko does with their entry level automatic watches: copy Rolex for a much cheaper price. They don’t even pretend they’re not doing it, come on. Everyone does know that, right? I mean- the sky is blue...right?? That should be the starting point of any discussion like this one. It’s simply a discussion of how different Rolex ripoffs at different price points compare. Nothing more, nothing less.
1bentley4ever ...try reading closer, Champ, I specifically addressed that. They’re not going for 1:1 copy (minus the branding) like Steinhart. We can say “inspired by” or whatever, but be serious. Let’s use common sense here for a second, Sport. How do you think they designed the SKX? Do you think they were unaware of the Submariner? ...or do you think they were holding a Submariner in their hands? You’re not honestly suggesting that they didn’t take the Sub (and the datejust) and say let’s make a much cheaper version of this watch? Think about what you’re saying here. I have both the Sub and the SKX, for the record. I have 2 versions of the Seiko I use as beaters. I recommend them for that; but iconic? Bullshit.
Tree Dillinger you make some good points, especially with the oyster bracelet. I mean even the name “007”. It is a very different watch tho. Inspired by....yes, every diver must be inspired by the fifty fathoms and the sub I guess. Let’s be real tho even Rolex didn’t start making good bracelets till the last decade 😂
Just bought one, first was misaligned. So returned it and bought in a different place. Guess what,,,misaligned as well. Not as bad as first one so I may keep it
It's hard to call a watch overrated when so many people gladly shell out $200 for one! It's iconic & legendary in it's own right and that gives it certain status, regardless of lack of features in it's price range. The Orient Ray II was recently selling for $50 less than the SKX and feature-wise on paper, is undeniably a better value. In a way, they are like a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, clearly not the best motorcycle for the money, but man, it's a "Harley!"..like, it's a "Seiko SKX!"
Right now You can buy a chinese watch with a SEIKO NH36A (read 4R36) movement for a 70 US dollars!!! Just think about it! Everytime when someone buys an SKX, i feel like this person payd for the watch and then throwed another 100 bucks in Seiko's pocket.
@@lionellim1101 , although i like Omega Seamaster Professional 300, i actually ended up buying a Seagull D819.459 - a beautiful dress watch with ST2130 (read ETA 2824-2) movement with hacking, hand winding and precision of +2 seconds per day. For 190 US dollars. How about that? But this is not what i wanted to say. What i realy wanted to say is that Seiko will not improve their quality as long as You WILL BUY this piece of crap (SKX007) for 200 bucks. Just think about it: right now, in this moment, Seiko HAS a better solution for roughly the same amount of money, but they will not implement this solution as long as the old solution works. Why bother? Right now You could have a better version of iconic SKX for the same 200 bucks - with hacking, hand winding, good bracelet, aligned bezel etc. But no - it's not a bug, it's a feature to have in 2018 a watch made in Japan of worse quality than a chinese watch for 1/3 of the price. Enjoy Your piece of crap and have a nice day!
007 gang I love my skx it was my first automatic movement I was into watches since I was young, when I turned 18 I got myself a seiko skx it has been 4 years since I’ve bought it; I have gone scuba diving in it, used it and abused it, this watch has been dropped smacked and all sorts of things and it still runs great. This was the best purchase for a watch I have made so far.
Love, love, love my SKX 009...but I must add that I did in fact unknowingly crack the crystal, No idea when or how it happened. Did have to replace it. Only crystal I've ever replaced. Still my favorite beater of all.
One of the best watches ever, especially the case. Just love the feel and fit of that case. That being said Seiko please just throw a 4R36 movement in there and give us drilled lug holes and this watch will be ready for another 2 decades of ass kicking.
Right now You can buy a chinese watch with a SEIKO NH36A (read 4R36) movement for a 70 US dollars!!! Just think about it! Everytime when someone buys an SKX, i feel like this person payd for the watch and then throwed another 100 bucks in Seiko's pocket.
The SKX007 was the first watch I bought after getting in to watches. I love the watch and don't plan to ever get rid of it. To me if the SKX had manual wind and hacking it would be the perfect watch. But I still love it as it is.
i have worn mine daily for months, and the lack of hand wind doesn’t bother me as i never really take it off unless showering. I guess the lack of hacking is a small letdown but doesn’t become a factor until setting (which is only about once a month). Overall, amazing watch, great size and weight and the design is stunning
The more parts inside the movement, the more parts that can fail. I bought my SKX on the fact it meets ISO and will outlast all my other watches in the decades to come and will not require the added cost of factory service.
Agreed Jory, I have the 009 on a nice Nato, and I switch it out with a Strapcode Oyster or whatever we're calling it now...keep up the good work my friend !
I love my Seiko watches, the SKX007 is a work horse . I have a 15 year old watch that I have beat up pretty well, the hardlex took a beating . Several times I hit it so hard on steel objects that I was sure that the crystal was broken, but it survived and has the marks to prove it. I was glad I found this channel when it had 5 thousand subscribers , The word is out this is a great channel to learn about our sickness.
I've lost the count for how many vids about seiko SKX I've already seen, and here is the first one to address the REALLY important matters about it. Thank you! Interesting enough, the mineral glass has a Mohs Scale of Hardness around 5, although the Seiko hardlex is 8, it's tougher than tungsten or hardened steel! Good enough for me!
Always like your videos I just got a skx007 and love it. It’s a great looking watch and has been keeping excellent time. I ordered mine from Long Island watch and while I paid a bit more received a clean fresh an new model. Definitely not sitting on a shelf long.
I dont really understand the obession with hacking, handwinding, and sapphire crystals. Also, none of my Seikos have misaligned chapter rings, so thats a nonstarter for me as well. The SKX is a great watch, and is ISO 6425 rated. The Orient is not. Nuff said.
Being able to hack makes it easier to tell if your watch is still accurate and might need some servicing. Handwinding is a lot more efficient and easier than shaking. That said it doesn't bother me if my skx has none of these features since I've got other watches in rotation. The hacking also helps me when I regulate my watch since I don't have timegrapher.
Just bought my first SKX007 and I'm super happy with it. The guy sold it to me with A Turtle bracelet though which didn't fit so I've treated it to a Geckota Engineer style. Oh and my chapter ring is perfect! One thing I would like though is a Kinetic movement in there, or a solar. But Kinetic would be better as you still get that feel of the weight inside moving.
I bought one of these because of you. I have some nicer, more expensive watches, but this may still be my favorite. It has to have the greatest value to price ratio of any watch made. I love it. Thanks.
definitely not overrated. recently got one for about 160usd. changed the strap to a zulu, got a sapphire crystal, and ceramic bezel. yes the 7s26 is outdated but it still gets the job done. before i was torn on what to get (citizen, orient or this skx) but im very happy with my skx. the fun part is the modding. the lume is also fucking awesome.
An icon, Seiko is right to not change a thing about it. Also as to the bracelet, my friend has a 90's Rolex GMT M2 and guess what, the bracelet has hollow end links, centre links and a stamped clasp just like the SKX does.
I bought a 009 years ago. I’ve not been a big seiko collector and I probably won’t really be. That being said though, the SKX is one of my favorite watches of all time, all quirks included. Do I wish it hacked and hand wound, sure, but I also love that it doesn’t. I absolutely love the chintzy jubilee, I’ve upgraded with about every bracelet available but always go back to it. My bezel doesn’t align unless I make it, and it doesn’t really stay there...easy fix if you are the least bit handy. I run about 10 seconds off per day, but I wear it twice a week at most. The crystal is quite scratched up. I still love everything about it. This watch and a Citizen promaster diver get the MOST wrist time of all my watches. I’ll probably upgrade the SKX to a domed sapphire, but I’m leaving everything else alone. I’ve thought it was overrated at times, but then I wore it those days and it all made sense.
Thank you for your channel. Informative and carefully considered. Have an SKX as well as watches from Nomos and Laco but the Seiko is the one I miss when I don't wear it....
Great video. Also, the SKX is an equalizer. At a place I worked at the manager wore an Omega Seamaster on a perlon and I wore my SKX proudly on a black leather strap. The SKX is the bad boy in the room that is shamed by no one. They are, however, not as robust as many think. The 7s26 movement in mine recently got messed up and so I am planning in the near future on retrofitting it with an NH36 movement. that's another reason why this piece has a cult following; they can be modified in so many different ways. An SKX has a soul. Take the guts out of it, take it apart and put it back together, modify it but it still is what it is.
Hacking? Never had need of it. Hand wind? Sure but a couple of quick shakes and the SKX is away. End links? This is a critique of the watch,not the bracelet. Misaligned chapter ring? Never had a problem. However, the crystal is a fingerprint magnet and the crown doesn’t always thread easily. Apart from that, for the price, fantastic piece, I have three.
KRaikkonenSF Did you read this somewhere or is it simply your Opinion? All the SKX owners I know are enthusiasts and in general ( only my opinion) , most enthusiasts know what amplitude is. But for the sake of your argument, let’s assume you are correct, I’m not sure how not being aware what amplitude is detracts from the SKXs great charm, character and value.
The watch is technically obsolete. And it is true that a large majority of watch owners don't know that never handwinding a movement causes a reduction of maximal amplitude with time, with a negative impact on precision (COSC models running at -30 per day after 10+ years...) What I mean is this: many watches which are obsolete, or sub-par technologically, still have a history or general feeling that makes them very relevant. I was offered a 1967 Rolex GMT which had been to Vietnam for several tours....obsolete ? Damn right. But still very relevant in a collection. I'll even say Russian watches are relevant also, yet their movements are....you know..... But regarding the SKX, what we tend to hear from owners is that the watch is NOT obsolete because (choose from the following: it can be regulated to be "COSC compliant", sapphire is useless because "I don't bang my watch", handwinding/hacking is pointless because "I personally don't use it"....) So in essence a lame attempt at arguing the SKX is technocally on par with the Swiss, rather than accepting it's not and that it is what comes along with the watch rather than the watch itself which makes it relevant. But as a watch the SKX, along with the Seiko 5 for that matter, is a very cheap one.
I'm a subscriber and i like your content Jory. I just ordered my first watch ! An SKX007 with Strapcode bracelet and DD sapphire from Long Island Watches. I even paid extra for overnight shipping. I'm Hoping i made the right choice for my first REAL watch. I feel that if you want to avoid SEIKO'S quality control problems don't buy directly from SEIKO or a name brand store. Go thru a reputable middle man company.
I have an SKX007, I got 4 years of almost daily wear out of it before the crown stem broke and the movement shut down. It didn't get a flogging, and as I understood it these things are supposed to be rugged. Otherwise I love the watch, but yeah, an expensive overhaul for what's supposed to be the essential beater. In that sense, my experience is that they are a little overrated.
Hardlex is great, I accidentally smashed my PADI diver into a marble clock. The marble crumbled while the hardlex was unmarked. I don't recommend putting it to the test though. :D
Couldn't agree more if it's not broke don't fix it. I like the fact that it has the 7S26 movement. It worked when it came out in 96 and it is still a very functional tool watch. Sure it's not up to date with watches in this price range but people don't or shouldn't buy this watch for quartz accuracy. They buy this watch because it's iconic. I also own a 2019 Rolex Submariner and although the SKX is a lot less costly I enjoy wearing it as much as my Submariner
I absolutely agree with your insights. I alternate between my 007 and 009 weekly. Albeit both on Strapcode super jubilee bracelets. They are bulletproof watches! Well...not literally, a .25 acp would probably kill it ha! But seriously, for what you get for the money is really a no brainer in choice for a solid, reliable, comfortable, attractive timepiece. No, it's NOT A LUXURY WATCH! And wasn't meant to be or trying to be. Anyone who believes the model is overrated probably doesn't own one.
Another great vid Jory - ironic that you made this now...picked up a 009 last week. Incredible value for money IMO. Agree re straps...rubber fine, though bracelet or NATO also work well. An all-around great classic timepiece.
I love my SKX divers. And my Orients. And my Vostoks. Wish I could afford an Omega or a Rolex. But my inexpensive watches haven’t let me down yet. Did I mention I LOVE my Vostoks? :-D
Excellent watches and doesn't break the budget while wearing a different watch when you like. Sometimes spreading your money across different watches make for a happy owner and a more diverse collection. Smart move!
I think that there has been three versions of movement, not sure about what but as far as I can remember there are 7s26 A, B, and C, and it's something about the hairspring or the mainspring. So not completely without any improvements for 22yrs.
There is nothing to complain about on the skx except for the alignment issue. Non hacking/hand winding isn’t a problem or downside, either is not having a sapphire crystal. The watch is fine how it is
While I think my Orient Mako USA is my preference, I do respect your opinion. I bought an SKX013, and I enjoy the smaller size. The crown feels a big more wiggly than my Orient, setting the date/time takes some precision (it's hard to get the crown in the perfect position to change it), and it cost more than my Orient (I got the Orient for $179). I might start to wear my SKX again. That's so true that the SKX looks great on many bands; you can't say that about my Orient.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And on that subject my first Seiko Divers watch is still going strong after 40 years. Why do people have to try and find fault with everything? Especially considering the price, these watches are EPIC.
Loved your take on the SKX. Flawed? Certainly. I got mine for $135; it's taught me lots and has accompanied me (and still does) through thick and thin. It's part of the experience of how much one can pay and still have fun.. SRPs have updates and are so much fun, but also cost twice as much.
Have the SKX013... Has a 10% premium with same movement but smaller diameter at 38mm. However, all watches are family watches with 6, 6.25 and 6.75 wrists and ideally all have 20mm lugs allowing for a few strap options to be worn on many watches. If the Orient Mako II or Ray II would have been smaller size with 20mm lugs instead of 22mm would have bought Orient and saved $50.
Love my 007....Have it on a Strapcode Razor Bracelet, and have replaced the Crown for a slightly taller version, because those Crown Guards are quite pointy and sharp on the underside....Uncomfortable to screw / unscrew the Crown......It is an icon...And yes....Mine runs within COSC too ;)
SKX is not perfect. Mine did scratch and runs a minute fast every week! But I paid 140 euros new delivered to my door and I love the look and feel of the thing. Not complaining, love the thing.
I certainly like the look of the SKX, but I do believe it is terrible value since in the same price range you can get other watches with a sapphire crystal and an NH36 movement instead of the 7s26. A good alternative if you like the look is the Deep Blue Nato diver 300
It's funny you made this video because I sold mine a few days ago and don't feel bad though. While it looks good and is a strap beast, it wasn't in my regular rotation. It didn't bother me about the hacking or winding, and I'd recommend it to anyone, but it was never a big hit with me. I never ... bonded with it. But I know they guy who owns it now will show it the love it deserves.
I'm definitely not a fan of no handwinding + hacking. I definitely see why you like it, but my biggest problem is that I just like other ones more. So probably no SKX007 for me, but to each their own!
Not overrated, I have one & a Turtle - & the Turtle is better in every way. Yes the skx is iconic,its not overrated but there is better out there . The Hardlex vs Sapphire makes me chuckle, I've never had any problems with hardlex & wouldn't pay extra for sapphire myself. Cheers 👍👍
inkitatus1 genuine question- owning both, would you recommend someone who wants a cheap Seiko diver beater to get the skx or the turtle? (Money wise they’re not that much different)
@@FatSamEIE Turtle is a much better quality watch & well worth the extra. It's heavier,which may count against it if you want lightweight ,but it's on my wrist permanently (including sleeping) & it's been faultless. Really can't recommend it enough.👍
@FatSamIE, Right now You can buy a chinese watch with a SEIKO NH36A (read 4R36) movement for a 70 US dollars!!! Just think about it! Everytime when someone buys an SKX, i feel like this person payd for the watch and then throwed another 100 bucks in Seiko's pocket.
I have always been wondering why people need a diver mechanical watch if they are not diving? And if they are diving, why don't they take a good quality G-Shock like Frogman which is specialised in diving? I know it is fashion and appearance. I know it is about personal preference but I can't stop thinking about practicality of diving watches.
Yes, the SKX is a great watch for the money. But I won’t stop wishing for applied indices, a better movement, and drilled lugs. I don’t care one bit about the hardlex, though. But what I really want is for Seiko to do some QC. It seems like they don’t even try.
Unfortunately in the UK to buy this watch new now it's around £300 and the used prices are pretty high too. For that kind of money you can get a couple of better spec'd Orient Ray's, a couple of Citizen promasters, a Zelos Mako or a tonne of other microbrand movements that offer saphire crystal, better movements, bronze cases etc... It's very overpriced for what it is at the moment. Maybe back in 2018 it was a good deal but not now.
Why do I like this watch? It's retro. How's that? The font is right out of the 70's. Yep it takes me back. James Bond solid state gadgets. Analogue. Masculine-Feminine (remember those?) Take me back. It's retro. It's a time machine. It's a great watch.
No hacking,no handwinding,no quality control,( sent mine back for misaligned chapter ring) cheap bracelet,no saphire crystal. If it didn't say Seiko on the dial, no-one would put up with it's deficiencies. Was great when it came out,but time has moved on,and so have I.
The Derp agree- can pay a little bit more and get a great citizen or Seiko diver. Turtle, samurai, sumo, citizen ny0040 etc are all in the ball park of the skx and all much bettee
Right now You can buy a chinese watch with a SEIKO NH36A (read 4R36) movement for a 70 US dollars!!! Just think about it! Everytime when someone buys an SKX, i feel like this person payd for the watch and then throwed another 100 bucks in Seiko's pocket.
Panic buying has set in, can’t find these for less than $300 now. Super excited to get my SRPB89K1. Very similar, only 100 meter wr and no screw down crown but hackable, hand wind movement.
Let me share a good tip to hacking the seconds hand. When you pull out the crown, twist slightly backward as you want to turn the minutes hand anti clockwise and hold it with a little force. Tadaaa... The seconds hand will stop and you can sync with your reference time...
Don't get me wrong , I love the skx design . I really do . But hacking and handwinding atleast my dude. I don't mind the mineral crystal or hardlex . I think it's an iconic watch , but the nh36 movements are going for 19 bucks in the UK. So Seiko is probs selling those movments for a dime, and that movment has hacking and handwinding . So, why haven't they put the 4r36 movment yet.
Because it doesn't need them, hacking?if you want to the second accuracy why the fuck are you wearing a mechanical?get a quartz Hand winding, literally don't give a shit about it,and it means extra wear on the crown Also the 7s26 is specified to be more accurate than the 4r36
I don't personally own this watch but I think at it's price point, and for it's purpose (a function over form tool watch), it is a decent time piece. Overall, I like the aesthetics and feautures of this Seiko model.
Love the channel. Love the skx. Congrats on a great first year. Any opinion on the lesser known skx cousin the 173? Never seems to be mentioned when discussing the rest of its family.
They haven't updated the Taj Mahal in 370 years. What's yer point?
And the Taj Mahal still doesn't have hacking or hand winding.
JungleEddie it doesn’t have sapphire crystal either
What about the Star of India Sapphire?
People that do not get this, do not get the SKX!
JungleEddie That's very funny hahahaha
Bought skx007 after your comments and have to say it has become my go to daily, it does exactly what it says on the tin, I'm a motor mechanic by trade and this is a tough usable piece of equipment. Thanks for the great advice.
Great video. The SKX was released two years after I joined the Navy, was my first mechanical watch, and still in my rotation. It’s been with me all over the world in my 24 year Military career. I “upgraded” to a Seiko SRP777, but I just don’t love it the way I love my SKX. I’ve been through a million straps and bracelets with this watch and I’ve had it on a Seiko jubilee for the past year or so. Gotta own the “jangle”.
So sir.. as a naval personnel you dont have any problem with the skx w/ no hacking/winding feature. Thers something feels while wearing this iconic watch for me
Just pulled the trigger on the SKX007! Last one at my local watch shop. Found it in a hidden corner right next to the 5 series for a great price. Couldn't be happier!
Nice man! How much did you end up paying for this?
I come back and watch this video every now and then to remind myself how smart I am for buying an SKX007. This time I noticed that I could round up the comments up to 800. You’re welcome. 😂. Love the channel. Keep it up, man.
My guy has a portrait of an skx on the wall
I got mine in Singapore in 1999 been used at work on deck im in the merchant navy, been scuba diveing with still works amazing watch
My SKX007 is still running well after 15 years. I paid $105 for it and never looked back. I thought about upgrading the movement and doing cosmetic stuff but decided not to worry about it.
Your enthusiasm is amazing. Its a joy to watch your videos as a watch aficionado...great job
Had mine for 10 years and was my gateway drug into Seiko divers. Love it.
Replaced the 7s26 to NH36 and my SKX is been a dream since.
Literally running like a quartz now with about +-0.5 a day.
And everything is aligned in my SKX!
The only thing that is bad is that I ruined my case a bit with bezel removals when I removed the bezel few years ago
for cleaning while being unexperienced. But i just brushed it manually with some sand paper and its better now.
Overrated? Probably not for a 20 year old watch but clearly brands like Orient have surpassed it's features. You cant argue with it's iconic status though.
Iconic? A blatant cheap Rolex ripoff... 🤔
Tree Dillinger if it was it would have a cheap cyclops copy, a 3 o’clock crown and the same indexes, the same hands, same case, I could go on......it’s not a Steinhart. I do feel that a lot divers look similar to the untrained eye tho👍🏻
vinny8vinny ok, it’s not an exact copy, but come on. The dial, the bezel, the bracelet. They didn’t design it out of thin air. If anything they very specifically changed a couple of features so that they can call it their own. It’s not just the divers, look at all their watches. Look at vintage Seikos from the 70s. 90% of them are fake Datejusts. You can’t tell me it’s not a blatant rip-off. Oyster bracelets, jubilee bracelets, rotating bezels, fluted bezel, screw down crown.
That’s really all Seiko does with their entry level automatic watches: copy Rolex for a much cheaper price. They don’t even pretend they’re not doing it, come on. Everyone does know that, right? I mean- the sky is blue...right??
That should be the starting point of any discussion like this one. It’s simply a discussion of how different Rolex ripoffs at different price points compare. Nothing more, nothing less.
1bentley4ever ...try reading closer, Champ, I specifically addressed that. They’re not going for 1:1 copy (minus the branding) like Steinhart. We can say “inspired by” or whatever, but be serious.
Let’s use common sense here for a second, Sport. How do you think they designed the SKX? Do you think they were unaware of the Submariner? ...or do you think they were holding a Submariner in their hands? You’re not honestly suggesting that they didn’t take the Sub (and the datejust) and say let’s make a much cheaper version of this watch? Think about what you’re saying here.
I have both the Sub and the SKX, for the record. I have 2 versions of the Seiko I use as beaters. I recommend them for that; but iconic? Bullshit.
Tree Dillinger you make some good points, especially with the oyster bracelet. I mean even the name “007”. It is a very different watch tho. Inspired by....yes, every diver must be inspired by the fifty fathoms and the sub I guess. Let’s be real tho even Rolex didn’t start making good bracelets till the last decade 😂
I have an skx007 for 15 yrs no problem no maintainance. Great bang for the buck. Btw it looks good on a nato
How dare they call this watch overated ! its such a iconic piece i just love mine so much
Just bought one, first was misaligned. So returned it and bought in a different place. Guess what,,,misaligned as well. Not as bad as first one so I may keep it
I just bought a SKX009 for the first time. Absolutely delighted with it.
My too.
@@paulusvberkel1448 me three!
2 years how is it?
It's hard to call a watch overrated when so many people gladly shell out $200 for one! It's iconic & legendary in it's own right and that gives it certain status, regardless of lack of features in it's price range. The Orient Ray II was recently selling for $50 less than the SKX and feature-wise on paper, is undeniably a better value. In a way, they are like a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, clearly not the best motorcycle for the money, but man, it's a "Harley!"..like, it's a "Seiko SKX!"
Right now You can buy a chinese watch with a SEIKO NH36A (read 4R36) movement for a 70 US dollars!!! Just think about it! Everytime when someone buys an SKX, i feel like this person payd for the watch and then throwed another 100 bucks in Seiko's pocket.
@@JSarmat86 dont bother. just go for an omega 300m with 8800 movement. lol. not really that expensive.
@@lionellim1101 , although i like Omega Seamaster Professional 300, i actually ended up buying a Seagull D819.459 - a beautiful dress watch with ST2130 (read ETA 2824-2) movement with hacking, hand winding and precision of +2 seconds per day. For 190 US dollars. How about that?
But this is not what i wanted to say. What i realy wanted to say is that Seiko will not improve their quality as long as You WILL BUY this piece of crap (SKX007) for 200 bucks. Just think about it: right now, in this moment, Seiko HAS a better solution for roughly the same amount of money, but they will not implement this solution as long as the old solution works. Why bother? Right now You could have a better version of iconic SKX for the same 200 bucks - with hacking, hand winding, good bracelet, aligned bezel etc. But no - it's not a bug, it's a feature to have in 2018 a watch made in Japan of worse quality than a chinese watch for 1/3 of the price.
Enjoy Your piece of crap and have a nice day!
I paid £115 for mine one year ago.
@@JSarmat86 who wants a CCP piece of shit tho
007 gang I love my skx it was my first automatic movement I was into watches since I was young, when I turned 18 I got myself a seiko skx it has been 4 years since I’ve bought it; I have gone scuba diving in it, used it and abused it, this watch has been dropped smacked and all sorts of things and it still runs great. This was the best purchase for a watch I have made so far.
Love, love, love my SKX 009...but I must add that I did in fact unknowingly crack the crystal, No idea when or how it happened. Did have to replace it. Only crystal I've ever replaced. Still my favorite beater of all.
One of the best watches ever, especially the case. Just love the feel and fit of that case. That being said Seiko please just throw a 4R36 movement in there and give us drilled lug holes and this watch will be ready for another 2 decades of ass kicking.
I’m fine with the movement, but I’d love to have domed sapphire and the drilled lug holes previously mentioned.
Sam D. Nah, they want you to move up to the new Turtle.
dimman77 I hate the turtle's case shape. Otherwise, I'd get it over the skx007.
Right now You can buy a chinese watch with a SEIKO NH36A (read 4R36) movement for a 70 US dollars!!! Just think about it! Everytime when someone buys an SKX, i feel like this person payd for the watch and then throwed another 100 bucks in Seiko's pocket.
@@JSarmat86 fuck china
I don't care if people think that the SKX is overrated. I love my SKX013 and plan on wearing it for many more years to come.
The SKX007 was the first watch I bought after getting in to watches. I love the watch and don't plan to ever get rid of it. To me if the SKX had manual wind and hacking it would be the perfect watch. But I still love it as it is.
I'm a Seiko fanboy.
Sex is tens of thousands of years ago and it's still awesome. Leave the SKX alone haters
I feel for you. Not only that you haven't had sex in tens of thousands of years, but also that you had to live that long.
The SKX is also infinitely customizable by modding it if you wish to do so.
Please don't modd the watch, it is as beatiful as is is write now.
@@paulusvberkel1448 no. It needs the sapphire crystal mod
i have worn mine daily for months, and the lack of hand wind doesn’t bother me as i never really take it off unless showering. I guess the lack of hacking is a small letdown but doesn’t become a factor until setting (which is only about once a month). Overall, amazing watch, great size and weight and the design is stunning
The more parts inside the movement, the more parts that can fail. I bought my SKX on the fact it meets ISO and will outlast all my other watches in the decades to come and will not require the added cost of factory service.
If you want a modded SKX007 brand new , double check the LongIsland dude, sapphire dome and upgraded bracelet. SKX007 is awesome :)
My SKX007 is my favorite watch in my collection! Congrats on the one year Mark!
The Skx007 is the best watch in the game - greetings from germany!
Agreed Jory, I have the 009 on a nice Nato, and I switch it out with a Strapcode Oyster or whatever we're calling it now...keep up the good work my friend !
I love my Seiko watches, the SKX007 is a work horse . I have a 15 year old watch that I have beat up pretty well, the hardlex took a beating . Several times I hit it so hard on steel objects that I was sure that the crystal was broken, but it survived and has the marks to prove it. I was glad I found this channel when it had 5 thousand subscribers , The word is out this is a great channel to learn about our sickness.
I've lost the count for how many vids about seiko SKX I've already seen, and here is the first one to address the REALLY important matters about it. Thank you! Interesting enough, the mineral glass has a Mohs Scale of Hardness around 5, although the Seiko hardlex is 8, it's tougher than tungsten or hardened steel! Good enough for me!
Always like your videos
I just got a skx007 and love it. It’s a great looking watch and has been keeping excellent time.
I ordered mine from Long Island watch and while I paid a bit more received a clean fresh an new model.
Definitely not sitting on a shelf long.
Bought a Heimdallr for $160. They solved all of these problems.
I dont really understand the obession with hacking, handwinding, and sapphire crystals. Also, none of my Seikos have misaligned chapter rings, so thats a nonstarter for me as well. The SKX is a great watch, and is ISO 6425 rated. The Orient is not. Nuff said.
Being able to hack makes it easier to tell if your watch is still accurate and might need some servicing. Handwinding is a lot more efficient and easier than shaking. That said it doesn't bother me if my skx has none of these features since I've got other watches in rotation. The hacking also helps me when I regulate my watch since I don't have timegrapher.
WHERE THE HELL DO YOU BUY ONE FOR $200....I'VE SEEN EM FROM $500 UP TO $1,400...THEY'RE GUNNA BE COLLECTORS FOR SURE
Long Island Watch sells their own copy of the SKX with a flat sapphire crystal for under $300.
The key word there is "copy...not "original"
Just bought my first SKX007 and I'm super happy with it. The guy sold it to me with A Turtle bracelet though which didn't fit so I've treated it to a Geckota Engineer style. Oh and my chapter ring is perfect! One thing I would like though is a Kinetic movement in there, or a solar. But Kinetic would be better as you still get that feel of the weight inside moving.
I bought one of these because of you. I have some nicer, more expensive watches, but this may still be my favorite. It has to have the greatest value to price ratio of any watch made. I love it. Thanks.
definitely not overrated. recently got one for about 160usd. changed the strap to a zulu, got a sapphire crystal, and ceramic bezel. yes the 7s26 is outdated but it still gets the job done. before i was torn on what to get (citizen, orient or this skx) but im very happy with my skx. the fun part is the modding. the lume is also fucking awesome.
I liked your review the best
Congratulations bro
Excellent video
Strait to the main points
I watched your video twice
👍👍🤩🙏🏻
An icon, Seiko is right to not change a thing about it. Also as to the bracelet, my friend has a 90's Rolex GMT M2 and guess what, the bracelet has hollow end links, centre links and a stamped clasp just like the SKX does.
That only means that both, Seiko and Rolex know how to F**k their customers :(. Also, alot has been changed since the 90's.
I ve had the skx for years in my watch collection.
It s price has gone up quite a bit now.
I love this watch. Its definetely a keeper.
I bought a 009 years ago. I’ve not been a big seiko collector and I probably won’t really be. That being said though, the SKX is one of my favorite watches of all time, all quirks included. Do I wish it hacked and hand wound, sure, but I also love that it doesn’t. I absolutely love the chintzy jubilee, I’ve upgraded with about every bracelet available but always go back to it. My bezel doesn’t align unless I make it, and it doesn’t really stay there...easy fix if you are the least bit handy. I run about 10 seconds off per day, but I wear it twice a week at most. The crystal is quite scratched up. I still love everything about it. This watch and a Citizen promaster diver get the MOST wrist time of all my watches. I’ll probably upgrade the SKX to a domed sapphire, but I’m leaving everything else alone. I’ve thought it was overrated at times, but then I wore it those days and it all made sense.
Watching this while wearing an SKX lol
Nothing wrong with that!
me too :)
Me too! lol
I just switched to my snzh57 about an hour ago, my skx was on my wrist for a week non stop (except for showers)
"watch"ing ... heh
Thank you for your channel. Informative and carefully considered. Have an SKX as well as watches from Nomos and Laco but the Seiko is the one I miss when I don't wear it....
I have two, and I have never been dissatisfied. Great watches. Mine is seldom off my wrist. Just remember to get your watch serviced regularly.
Great video.
Also, the SKX is an equalizer. At a place I worked at the manager wore an Omega Seamaster on a perlon and I wore my SKX proudly on a black leather strap. The SKX is the bad boy in the room that is shamed by no one.
They are, however, not as robust as many think. The 7s26 movement in mine recently got messed up and so I am planning in the near future on retrofitting it with an NH36 movement. that's another reason why this piece has a cult following; they can be modified in so many different ways.
An SKX has a soul. Take the guts out of it, take it apart and put it back together, modify it but it still is what it is.
Never overrated and keep making great videos man.👍 Also 37k!!!
My SKX is sitting next to my Explorer in my watchbox. If I need a tough watch for a rough job I reach for the SKX. Just putting that out there
Hacking? Never had need of it. Hand wind? Sure but a couple of quick shakes and the SKX is away. End links? This is a critique of the watch,not the bracelet. Misaligned chapter ring? Never had a problem. However, the crystal is a fingerprint magnet and the crown doesn’t always thread easily. Apart from that, for the price, fantastic piece, I have three.
Chris Searle sell me one & you still got 2 for both of your hand 😜
No handwinding = amplitude problems you won't be able to solve in the long term.
But hey, most SKX owners don't even know what amplitude is...
KRaikkonenSF Did you read this somewhere or is it simply your Opinion? All the SKX owners I know are enthusiasts and in general ( only my opinion) , most enthusiasts know what amplitude is. But for the sake of your argument, let’s assume you are correct, I’m not sure how not being aware what amplitude is detracts from the SKXs great charm, character and value.
The watch is technically obsolete. And it is true that a large majority of watch owners don't know that never handwinding a movement causes a reduction of maximal amplitude with time, with a negative impact on precision (COSC models running at -30 per day after 10+ years...)
What I mean is this: many watches which are obsolete, or sub-par technologically, still have a history or general feeling that makes them very relevant. I was offered a 1967 Rolex GMT which had been to Vietnam for several tours....obsolete ? Damn right. But still very relevant in a collection.
I'll even say Russian watches are relevant also, yet their movements are....you know.....
But regarding the SKX, what we tend to hear from owners is that the watch is NOT obsolete because (choose from the following: it can be regulated to be "COSC compliant", sapphire is useless because "I don't bang my watch", handwinding/hacking is pointless because "I personally don't use it"....) So in essence a lame attempt at arguing the SKX is technocally on par with the Swiss, rather than accepting it's not and that it is what comes along with the watch rather than the watch itself which makes it relevant.
But as a watch the SKX, along with the Seiko 5 for that matter, is a very cheap one.
Sapphire has top scratch resistance but Seiko chooses Hardlex because it has top shatter resistance.
I'm a subscriber and i like your content Jory. I just ordered my first watch ! An SKX007 with Strapcode bracelet and DD sapphire from Long Island Watches. I even paid extra for overnight shipping. I'm Hoping i made the right choice for my first REAL watch. I feel that if you want to avoid SEIKO'S quality control problems don't buy directly from SEIKO or a name brand store. Go thru a reputable middle man company.
I have an SKX007, I got 4 years of almost daily wear out of it before the crown stem broke and the movement shut down. It didn't get a flogging, and as I understood it these things are supposed to be rugged. Otherwise I love the watch, but yeah, an expensive overhaul for what's supposed to be the essential beater. In that sense, my experience is that they are a little overrated.
A new movement is $20 on eBay.
Hardlex is great, I accidentally smashed my PADI diver into a marble clock. The marble crumbled while the hardlex was unmarked. I don't recommend putting it to the test though. :D
Couldn't agree more if it's not broke don't fix it. I like the fact that it has the 7S26 movement. It worked when it came out in 96 and it is still a very functional tool watch. Sure it's not up to date with watches in this price range but people don't or shouldn't buy this watch for quartz accuracy. They buy this watch because it's iconic. I also own a 2019 Rolex Submariner and although the SKX is a lot less costly I enjoy wearing it as much as my Submariner
I absolutely agree with your insights. I alternate between my 007 and 009 weekly. Albeit both on Strapcode super jubilee bracelets. They are bulletproof watches! Well...not literally, a .25 acp would probably kill it ha! But seriously, for what you get for the money is really a no brainer in choice for a solid, reliable, comfortable, attractive timepiece. No, it's NOT A LUXURY WATCH! And wasn't meant to be or trying to be. Anyone who believes the model is overrated probably doesn't own one.
Incredibly moddable and aesthetic, top 3 in my favorite watches together with Rose Gold Rolex Yatch-Master and Limited Edition Seiko SLA017 62Mas.
Another great vid Jory - ironic that you made this now...picked up a 009 last week. Incredible value for money IMO. Agree re straps...rubber fine, though bracelet or NATO also work well. An all-around great classic timepiece.
I love my SKX divers. And my Orients. And my Vostoks. Wish I could afford an Omega or a Rolex. But my inexpensive watches haven’t let me down yet.
Did I mention I LOVE my Vostoks? :-D
Excellent watches and doesn't break the budget while wearing a different watch when you like. Sometimes spreading your money across different watches make for a happy owner and a more diverse collection. Smart move!
I think that there has been three versions of movement, not sure about what but as far as I can remember there are 7s26 A, B, and C, and it's something about the hairspring or the mainspring. So not completely without any improvements for 22yrs.
I have a Quartz SKX that I bought about 20 years ago. Still running and looks like new. Just put a new battery in.
There is nothing to complain about on the skx except for the alignment issue. Non hacking/hand winding isn’t a problem or downside, either is not having a sapphire crystal. The watch is fine how it is
While I think my Orient Mako USA is my preference, I do respect your opinion. I bought an SKX013, and I enjoy the smaller size. The crown feels a big more wiggly than my Orient, setting the date/time takes some precision (it's hard to get the crown in the perfect position to change it), and it cost more than my Orient (I got the Orient for $179). I might start to wear my SKX again. That's so true that the SKX looks great on many bands; you can't say that about my Orient.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And on that subject my first Seiko Divers watch is still going strong after 40 years. Why do people have to try and find fault with everything? Especially considering the price, these watches are EPIC.
Loved your take on the SKX. Flawed? Certainly. I got mine for $135; it's taught me lots and has accompanied me (and still does) through thick and thin. It's part of the experience of how much one can pay and still have fun.. SRPs have updates and are so much fun, but also cost twice as much.
Have the SKX013... Has a 10% premium with same movement but smaller diameter at 38mm.
However, all watches are family watches with 6, 6.25 and 6.75 wrists and ideally all have 20mm lugs allowing for a few strap options to be worn on many watches.
If the Orient Mako II or Ray II would have been smaller size with 20mm lugs instead of 22mm would have bought Orient and saved $50.
Happy one year brutha!!!
Why update if it works? Better than these constant tweaks by watchmakers just to suck in more cash.
Love my 007....Have it on a Strapcode Razor Bracelet, and have replaced the Crown for a slightly taller version, because those Crown Guards are quite pointy and sharp on the underside....Uncomfortable to screw / unscrew the Crown......It is an icon...And yes....Mine runs within COSC too ;)
SKX is not perfect. Mine did scratch and runs a minute fast every week! But I paid 140 euros new delivered to my door and I love the look and feel of the thing. Not complaining, love the thing.
I certainly like the look of the SKX, but I do believe it is terrible value since in the same price range you can get other watches with a sapphire crystal and an NH36 movement instead of the 7s26. A good alternative if you like the look is the Deep Blue Nato diver 300
The SKX is a legend Jory, thanks for the acurate and honest review & congratulations on reaching 37k subscribers!
skx007 warrior here thanks for this informative detail. Godbless
Great year! Keep it coming
It's funny you made this video because I sold mine a few days ago and don't feel bad though. While it looks good and is a strap beast, it wasn't in my regular rotation. It didn't bother me about the hacking or winding, and I'd recommend it to anyone, but it was never a big hit with me. I never ... bonded with it. But I know they guy who owns it now will show it the love it deserves.
I'm definitely not a fan of no handwinding + hacking. I definitely see why you like it, but my biggest problem is that I just like other ones more. So probably no SKX007 for me, but to each their own!
Came across this three year old video. Oh to be able to find an SKX for under 200 in 2021.
Go with an Islander. 👍
Not overrated, I have one & a Turtle - & the Turtle is better in every way. Yes the skx is iconic,its not overrated but there is better out there . The Hardlex vs Sapphire makes me chuckle, I've never had any problems with hardlex & wouldn't pay extra for sapphire myself. Cheers 👍👍
inkitatus1 genuine question- owning both, would you recommend someone who wants a cheap Seiko diver beater to get the skx or the turtle? (Money wise they’re not that much different)
@@FatSamEIE Turtle is a much better quality watch & well worth the extra. It's heavier,which may count against it if you want lightweight ,but it's on my wrist permanently (including sleeping) & it's been faultless. Really can't recommend it enough.👍
Have both as well, love the turtle. want to collect them all.....
@FatSamIE, Right now You can buy a chinese watch with a SEIKO NH36A (read 4R36) movement for a 70 US dollars!!! Just think about it! Everytime when someone buys an SKX, i feel like this person payd for the watch and then throwed another 100 bucks in Seiko's pocket.
I have always been wondering why people need a diver mechanical watch if they are not diving?
And if they are diving, why don't they take a good quality G-Shock like Frogman which is specialised in diving?
I know it is fashion and appearance. I know it is about personal preference but I can't stop thinking about practicality of diving watches.
The most amusing watch channel out there. Love your Seiko stress moments in the middle.
Prefer the Orient Ray 2 myself. Got it customised with a double dome sapphire crystal and it looks superb.
Yes, the SKX is a great watch for the money. But I won’t stop wishing for applied indices, a better movement, and drilled lugs. I don’t care one bit about the hardlex, though. But what I really want is for Seiko to do some QC. It seems like they don’t even try.
Subscribed over 6 mo ago - keep up the great work sir!
Unfortunately in the UK to buy this watch new now it's around £300 and the used prices are pretty high too. For that kind of money you can get a couple of better spec'd Orient Ray's, a couple of Citizen promasters, a Zelos Mako or a tonne of other microbrand movements that offer saphire crystal, better movements, bronze cases etc... It's very overpriced for what it is at the moment. Maybe back in 2018 it was a good deal but not now.
I have the 7002 series, I love the patina though and currently owned that one and I love it so much with switching nato straps.
Why do I like this watch? It's retro. How's that? The font is right out of the 70's. Yep it takes me back. James Bond solid state gadgets. Analogue. Masculine-Feminine (remember those?) Take me back. It's retro. It's a time machine. It's a great watch.
You just made me so happy about the crystal ! I though its just a mineral one, prone to scratching. :) Yeah, im totally getting an SKX :)
consider a mako 2 instead, way better and cheaper
4 years later and despite the flaws, my SKX007 is worth twice as much as when I purchased it.
To me the SKX is iconic in the same way a 60s VW Beetle is - cheap and it works.
Wow just deleted my post because I compared it to a VW bug as well. Lol
honda civic
Toyota Camry
Timothy Mckee that’s because u bought the same car. Audi is the luxury/prestige version of VW. Similar to what Lexus IS to Toyota
Andy Laird Land cruiser - it’s tough, it works, no frills and most importantly Reliable. And I drive a Land Rover Tdi, u figure.
No hacking,no handwinding,no quality control,( sent mine back for misaligned chapter ring) cheap bracelet,no saphire crystal. If it didn't say Seiko on the dial, no-one would put up with it's deficiencies. Was great when it came out,but time has moved on,and so have I.
Good review i have a SKX and my wacth really keeps good time and it looks cool!
Great video. What are the alternative's to SKX at $200. Thanks
Seiko needs to change the movement and crystal and it would be good for another 20 years.
No and no,it needs neither,screw sapphire,it shatters to easily
And the 7s26 is a perfectly good movement
Not overrated
Sean Cody No sapphire, can’t hack or hand wind, it’s a good watch but pretty overrated
The Derp agree- can pay a little bit more and get a great citizen or Seiko diver. Turtle, samurai, sumo, citizen ny0040 etc are all in the ball park of the skx and all much bettee
Yes, overrated!
Right now You can buy a chinese watch with a SEIKO NH36A (read 4R36) movement for a 70 US dollars!!! Just think about it! Everytime when someone buys an SKX, i feel like this person payd for the watch and then throwed another 100 bucks in Seiko's pocket.
Panic buying has set in, can’t find these for less than $300 now. Super excited to get my SRPB89K1. Very similar, only 100 meter wr and no screw down crown but hackable, hand wind movement.
Let me share a good tip to hacking the seconds hand. When you pull out the crown, twist slightly backward as you want to turn the minutes hand anti clockwise and hold it with a little force. Tadaaa... The seconds hand will stop and you can sync with your reference time...
Don't get me wrong , I love the skx design . I really do . But hacking and handwinding atleast my dude. I don't mind the mineral crystal or hardlex . I think it's an iconic watch , but the nh36 movements are going for 19 bucks in the UK. So Seiko is probs selling those movments for a dime, and that movment has hacking and handwinding . So, why haven't they put the 4r36 movment yet.
Because it doesn't need them, hacking?if you want to the second accuracy why the fuck are you wearing a mechanical?get a quartz
Hand winding, literally don't give a shit about it,and it means extra wear on the crown
Also the 7s26 is specified to be more accurate than the 4r36
I don't personally own this watch but I think at it's price point, and for it's purpose (a function over form tool watch), it is a decent time piece. Overall, I like the aesthetics and feautures of this Seiko model.
Love the channel. Love the skx. Congrats on a great first year. Any opinion on the lesser known skx cousin the 173? Never seems to be mentioned when discussing the rest of its family.