Age of Mythology Retold: Ra Build Order (2 TC Rain)
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What a wonderful guide, not just a build order but really an indepth explanation of why you do it and what challenges are awaiting after it and how to overcome it.
Hope you have effective pratice for your Red Bull competetive games. And ofc I will watch those games 👍
Here's cliff notes of build order!
3 food
1 build monument - then food
3 gold
at 150 gold, build house and temple. Use priest to empower build.
6 food
Rest to gold
16 pop - advance for RAIN
Move all but 3 villagers to gold.
Empower gold with pharroh, food with priest.
AGE 2:
Place village center on food source. Empower vill center.
Move all but 3 to wood
Rally new vills to gold
Get pickaxe
Get shiduff
Husbandry
Plow
After upgrades, move wood vills to gold.
After hunt gone, move to gold
After shiduff, build farms, up to 14. Rain at 14 farms.
AGE UP and build monument to soldiers! Keep casting rain!
Build migdol!
Build army to control a safe gold mine, use market to do it!
Good luck!
thank you!
I get rushed by difficult ai after my second town Center comes up what am I doing wrong?
@@chabbab6698 it all comes down to micro/age 3 timings. make sure your pharoah/wadjet/priest are in the middle of your base and the towers are protecting them as they shoot down your opponents units, once you hit age 3 you throw down a migdol somewhere quickly and start making units
@@IamMagicAOM thanks
hi what is a village center i cant seem to find it on the build menu
Great build order! Egypt is the best.
Ra and Isis lost their Beta upgrades (Ra's Migdol units have +20% damage and Isis lost her +0.33% health for every upgrade. They are no longer special sadly
@@YeenMage Isnt Ra supposed to have stronger midgol units? They did in original, but they took all that away? Sad.
@@et34t34fdf Ra's migdol units currently have _+15% hit points as a bonus. Apparently they lost 20% damage? (I didn't play the beta)
@@azzor4134 15% hit point might be better than 20% damage, no? Camels don't have the best base attack.
Sad they changed it the bonus to HP. The attack bonus made it more aggressive
This is literally becoming one of the best if not best aom channel. I can see why magic is one of the goats.
Best build videos I’ve found. Nice job
Thanks so much for this. I'm not good at RTSs but I'm trying to get better. AoM is basically one of the few RTSs I like because you can be ancient Egypt.
you can try out project celeste as well! imo better engine with movement, just lacks the gods! hope we get another age of mythology
These are the best guides I've found so far thanks to your explanations, a lot of the other guys with amazing build orders make the videos kind of assuming a level of knowledge about competitive AoM that I and I'm assuming many other's watching these don't really have yet. Keep up the good work man, and good luck on the tournament grind!
I don't see myself being good at this game whenever I see people pulling out graphs lol but you're great, dude
I know a lot of players who are really good that never use spreadsheets or graphs!
@@IamMagicAOM I'm a bit relieved now ❤️
Just a small thing I thought I'd mention. If your opponent also has farms (especially if he's also egypt) you can go scout their base throw down the third age spell in their farming eco before casting rain the second time.
Thank you for another build order! I'll try Ra now xD
I want to play with all the civs, but I still think Egypt is the hardest one, because you have to micro your Pharaoh, Priests, place monuments etc
I agree!
Hey, I am trying your Build order and I noticed a few things:
1st my 3rd age was always late, thats because I didnt move the pharaoh to the main TC when using rain. Its actually a huge difference
2nd I was lacking scouting information, so I started scouting with goats/cows to discover gold mines/tc plan base layout etc. and
3rd is that its actually good to leave 2 vils on wood when advancing to the 3rd age to afford upgrades in the next age.
Maybe this will help some of you guys as well :)
Great points !
Would love to see a Gaia build! Thanks so much for your tutorials man!
I said again, you are this man. Perfect voice also to explain ! Big heart
Big thanks mate! Been looking forward to this specific one the most. Much love ❤.
Great guide, but I have a question. Is this only for ranked play? and hoping the other player is slow? Like, is this build playable at all vs. hard+ diffculty ai? because after tons of practice with this myself and even just watching you in your vid, you don't have any army not even a barracks or finished stronghold by almost 9 minutes. Hard difficulty AI attacks at about 6 minutes 30 secs- 7 minutes, and completely ruins this build because there's nothing to defend with. Am I doing something majorly wrong? How are you supposed to defend early rushes? Im still kind of a noob but i can't figure it out
Great way to put it cuz I don’t see how I can push thru technology and also make an army…I’ve played Warcraft StarCraft and lor battle of middle earth this by far being the most difficult technology/army wise for me to understand
@@trishlynn8075 yea i guess its just not viable for anyone rushing within 10 minutes, which is all the AI above standard difficult and (I haven’t played ranked yet but I can only imagine) anyone in ranked with any sort of experience. Send a scout, see someone’s completely focused on econ and has no defenses, early rush with minimal soldiers, like a couple minutes worth a queuing a barracks lol, easy win for them. I would’ve thought any build worth making a video over would be viable in most situations
Great guide, thanks man. I can see your channel becoming the beasty equivalent for AoM if you stick at it :) awesome stuff
Thank you a lot, I am seeing a lot of aggro on ranked, so I am gonna stick to what you aid at the end and still reach then a fast eroic. What do you think? Especially against those freaking minotaurs
it should work! i've been doing it myself
@@IamMagicAOM just a question why do u build the village center? for closer gathering?
@@alessandrodellanno948want to k ow the amswer as well
Again great build. Thx for that :) Since i watch all your build videos i will copy this comment on the others so you have more youtube algorithm attention. And ofc i like all them
Is there a reason to rush out that second village center? Would simply rushing to Heroic on 1 TC be quicker and allow you to get a migdol down a little faster and get troops faster?
Im probably missing something here tho tbh
that's also possible, I just add the VC for some extra eco. if you'd like to be a bit more aggro and up faster definitely can forego the VC.
@@IamMagicAOM awesome I'll test it out. Great work on the guides btw, been recommending your channel. Wish you the best of luck on your UA-cam/competitive endeavors
I love that u are on point, good vid
Thx alot Magic for the vid. I'm really having trouble with getting harassed early though. almost everybody ups at 3:45 and I can't keep farming gold early on. Wouldn't you almost always suggest going classic army atm with the meta?
it depends on the gold mine positioning for sure, if its a really forward gold mine with no towers protecting it you can always just put the village center there, one vill center is enough to ward off most early aggro (if you micro well with pharoah priest and wadjet)
remember you're village center goes down so fast that the only thing that can really hit that early is one greek hero and a myth unit, followed by the second greek hero shortly after, you can rush it down with lots of vills and he can't stop it
question at minute 4:15, right after village center is made, wouldnt be better that the pharaoh empowers the monument? so i can boost both town center, village and probably there is a bit of chance to scout with the priest the surroundings
Yep, a lot of players play that way, it depends on your play style but definitely something you can do!
Awesome, super helpful! I learned a lot. Thank you!
Just to be sure, building the Village Center on the chicken is just an example here, right? Cause, when practising against the AI just to get a feel of it, I got a map where the chickens where behind my TC, on the edge on the map. I guess it's not that useful then, is it?
The main idea is to build the Village Center in the range on the monument and a bit foward in order to protect the base?
EDIT: rewatch again and again, and ok, dropping a VC on food is important, whether it's on chickens or something else since the villagers building the VC will go to the food right after.
@@Agachack exactly, you can drop the vill center wherever you want, but ensure that you’re not falling behind on food gathering, chickens is generally the best spot, you can also put it right beside your gold but then you’ll need to walk to chickens. Remember this is just the basic build, always customize it to your playstyle and your liking !
Saving all of these for when I have some time to shake off the rust and git gud at AoM Retold
I noticed your earlier openings was to scout the closest settlement spot preferably with a gold nearby with your priest and build your second TC there. What makes this build superior to that one in terms of gold safety.
this build capitalizes on Ra's rain bonus, he's one of the only gods that doesn't require external resources, he can shell up in his base and get a great economy going
@@IamMagicAOM Thanks. BTW, I'll be rooting for you in the upcoming tournament. Good luck.
@@burjisazrael4164 thanks! :)
Ahah just realized i chose the worst god to learn with 😅. I think it made me better though i was wondering why Greek units were so much cooler and stronger. I did like the turtle strat though.
Unfortunately all aggressive gods are higher tier, who can you recommend that is strong and has a similar play style to ra?
I think Hades is similar, you can kind of turtle with him too
Hi, great content ! As a new AoM player your guides are gold mines
Please how do you defend aggressive build order ? Like if there is a smasll army coming before 8mn
the pharoah, the wadjet and the priest can handle most early aggression with good micro
@@IamMagicAOM Thanks a lot for your answer
@@IamMagicAOM I'm loving to play the build against my friend ! May I ask if you ever cut vill production if games goes long or do you go to 100 ?
Also GL for the upcoming tournament
3 build for Egyptians i love it!! ty
i came from aoe4 saw u on beastys channel been usen u set build kida sad ra is worst of them he my fav lol might try this build next
What i find hardest about playing egypt (and going fast heroic) is to deal with early agression. How to deal with that?
It’s a bit tough but I usually try to hold with my priest pharaoh and early myth unit and using good micro, you can also make a barracks with a few spears if it’s too much to hold
So just about every champion is even besides the ability’s one may prefer and or unit/myth types
incredible guide, but I know Ra got nerfed from the beta to release, can you eventually do your personal opinion on the current release meta and create a tier list of what you think are the strongest major Gods. Set seems very strong and Greek overall seems powerful but id love to hear a competitive players top try hard Civs
Sure but let me put some game time in and think about it a bit first
@IamMagicAOM i really think you should make tier lists once you play some games and have everything in check tier list are the most watched videos so it's a really good idea
Why didnt you start empowering the monument right away? is it gives less bonus?
the pharoah empowers at a slower rate if you put it on the monument
Why did you build the town center on the chicken and not on the berries? Do you want to have it in front or is there another reason for it?
@@Jan-hy1xo chicken gather faster and yeah that positioning is better for defense
Thank you for the Egyptian content. Goat.
Nice guide, what are the downsizes of VC instead of TC?
less map control, weaker structure, increased training time for vills, no population added
Nice B/O, does seem quite vulnerable to a rush without any early game military
requires some good micro behind your towers with wadjet + priest + pharoah
Should you try to find any goats with your priest? Or is it better to just leave him empowering and give up the goats to focus on getting to farms?
I just empower, goats are not really needed since I cast rain so fast and also use the chickens if I need to
i cant seem to see village centre anywhere on the build menus?
its the same as town centers, if you place then anywhere aside from a settlement they will be a village center
Any suggestion on which minor god would be best for Ra to pick for mythic age? or is it entirely situational/preference?
very situational really and also preferential!
So its okay if i delay my age 3 and mass barracks unit?
Yep if you think you can’t hold without them it’s better to be safe than sorry
@@IamMagicAOM o7!
is the gold you save on farms with Shaduf better than the +5% food rate on farms from Sacred Cats with Bast? thanks for the video!
@@Fuzzyplatypus definitely, gold is huge early on and the mine runs out pretty fast
@@IamMagicAOM yea I see now after trying it out that it makes a huge difference. Thanks!
Sounds very interesting! I'd love to see a full game from you with that BO. Btw, when do you usually stream (and which UTC)?
I don't have a set schedule atm, it's a bit random :(
@@IamMagicAOM Okay, then I follow you on Twitch and hope to get the notification once you've started streaming!
im really excited to see what you cook up for thor
My guess is something like AoE3 dutch
I have been waiting for this.
Why are you empowering the TC's and such with your pharaoh instead of the monument which would empower both of them?
the moment you empower a monument with your pharoah you empower at a reduced rate, if its directly then you get the full rate (20%)
@@IamMagicAOM wow I did not know they changed that, in the beta it was full rate. It says it is 60% like the priest which is actually 40% less! Then again if you're already empowering 2 good buildings that's a net profit right?
Can you place Town Centers anywhere you want? I thought they were limited to the locations of abandoned Town Center sites.
there's village centers now, it's new. this one you can play anywhere but it's not good as placing it on a settlement. (slow vill creation and weaker/no pop increase)
@@IamMagicAOM That's really interesting! Is this ability unique to Egypt, or do all pantheons have it?
@@xXRazor03Xx all of the gods have it!
Is this guide outdated? What I mean is that I follow this with 9 vills on food and at 16 vills where you're supposed to advance my resources are just above 200 food, doesn't matter if it's hippo start, gazelle start, giraffe start etc.
Advance time should still work, but I’d say it’s a bit outdated yeah
@@IamMagicAOM I see, I found out that 2:50 isn't possible anymore but with either 9 vills or 10 vills you can still advance in 20-30 seconds tops.
More Egypt builds, lets gooo 🎉🎉🎉
It’s possible to go Heroic with Ra at least as fast as 7 minutes. Do you think that’s not viable?
you can but you'll have to cut some corners, i'd rather go a bit slower with a solid economy behind it
Is there a reason you don’t empower the monument in the beginning to get the AOE empower right away?
it gives you less % than if you empower a building directly
@@IamMagicAOM thank you! That makes sense!
Does this work on water maps or should you be fighting for the water?
water is different, you should definitely make fishing ships at the start and fight for it. (right now people are still trying to understand water and the current meta is to fight lightly on water and take a second tc)
so why not just empower the monument with your pharaoh earlier to free up a priest to roam ? is it not as efficient early?
Pharaoh if he empowers alone has a bigger bonus
They castrated Ra. He lost his Beta bonus like the +20% increase damage of Migdol units, and he also lost his original +20% HP and -25% cost for Monuments. Also, the priest empower is now only 60% instead of 80 % from the previous version. Darn.
Agreed
Why us he empowering village center and TC ? I thought you couldn't accelerate vill production and age up ?
empower increases the drop off of all resources by 20%, it does nothing to speed up vill production!
@@IamMagicAOM ah yes ok i though it was only doable on drop off site but not TC
@@Fortheweak13 nope, both!
@@IamMagicAOMwhere can we easily get these infos?
Moderate AI attacks with a decent army before we click to Heroic age.
How do you deal with that?
You would need good control of your initial wadjet priest and pharaoh
But if there’s too much then pull back your vills if you need to, there’s a game of me on fitzbros channel doing this build you can see what to do there
So what’s the advantage on going to age 3 is it the chariots and with such a good eco how can u take advantage in age 2 ?
yep, access to chariots and camels really and also being able to place a fort at your second gold mine is nice, scarabs are great too if you want to start putting pressure onto your opponent.
How are you getting enough food to age up with 9 vills??? Every time do this im atleast 200 short??
make sure you're getting good efficiency, lure the hunt right beside granary and ensure the pharaoh is empowering the granary.
also make sure your temple goes up in time
I appreciate your guide bro, but audio in this video is very low :( pls check it next time if possible. Regards.
Sorry for that, i've been trying to find a solution, I even bought a good mic but maybe my voice is just too quiet
As a noob trying to understand: What is the benefit of the second town center?
Just more economy, more workers
do you have to do 2 TC rain with RA every game? are there other build order options? can you play 1 tc?
yep, there's lots of options but if you really want to get an edge over the competition its best to try and leverage the bonuses of the god you're playing, I feel like this really capitalizes on Ra's bonuses, however you can definitely do this 1 tc and go for a faster heroic age, or even 1 tc rain with lots of barracks units, the possibilities are endless!
THANK YOU
The range on those chariots it's crazy, kinda unfair to Greek soldiers
awesome video
Thank you
I just got ran over by someone I'm pretty sure followed this video. Guess that's as good of proof as any it can beat someone who isn't prepared for it
Why do villagers all go to wood when advancing to age 3?
I like to make lots of chariots and sometimes you need to sell wood for gold
Good Video
3:25 pense que la policía estaba cerca de mi vecindario
Hahah
so, no exploring?
no need with Ra, since all your food is in your base you're safe! you also have 4 towers + 2 tc's to shoot arrows so nobody can really attack either, if you want to scout you can use your wadjet in age 2 to do a quick circle but be careful to not let him die
Whatis that village centar i dont have that in building option
As long as you don’t build on top of a settlement it will be vill center
@@IamMagicAOM ok thanks
Does that mean we don't scout with priest in this build?
@@straelboraaaa it’s optional, not really needed imo
@@IamMagicAOMsorry, I dont quite understand, if you don’t scout and boom inside your base how can you defend against any early aggression?
What to do if Norse proxy you?
@@straelboraaaa there’s a lot of firepower in your base to defend, let’s say you don’t scout and you get attacked, you will have a pharaohs a priest and a wadjet shooting the attackers units, the attacker will also have to deal with 4 towers a town center and a village center, it’s very hard to do anything esp since all your resources are inside your base, you don’t need hunting here.
But let’s assume he’s Loki, he forward bases you and surprises you with a strong attack, you can just rush down some barracks and sit in the middle of your base and defend, even if he destroys your villiage center, as long as you play properly and make him lose a lot of units you will be ahead
I’ll try to find a sample game in the future to show you
@@IamMagicAOM thanks man.
One more thing I am confused is the TC fire power, do you get the vills inside the TC and make it shoot like AOE4 English Tc or it doesn’t happen? When beta I saw people constantly dive into TC with Calvary like they are nothing.
And also the VC, are they worse than normal TC?
why not empower with pharao the monument ?
since the beginning ...
@@ZeroBR_Plays it's reduced gather rate, not as effective
Too tight on food with deer and the walking distance due to them moving too far from granary.
nice
EGGY !!!
I have no idea how to make Egypt work in this new game. It doesnt matter how much i get left alone to get an economy, whatever age im in, the army is trash. It gets shredded by literally any army with a few myths in it. And the priests are barely a counter
this is a problem i'm facing as well, the only real solution for the most part is to mix myth units into an egyptian army. they did buff chariot archers vs infantry so that's a bit better now too, but realistically to win you need to have a larger army with myth units and better micro for the most part
@@IamMagicAOM I have played a few more games now and found much more success with Isis. Going for a second TC and delaying Heroic by a few mins to make sure i have a few military buildings and some units.
New player guides helping me alot.. thanks brother✌✌ sub from me👏
bump up your sound a bit, it's super low
I have it on max, not sure why it's so low :(
@@IamMagicAOM a cloud lifter could help you get some extra gain if you need it.
@@IamMagicAOM its fine for me tbf.
Is Husbandry worth it for a few sheep?
@@edmis90 you need it since it increases the carry rate of food villagers and as a result they spend more time gathering than walking