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Do you think since Sam Ash is closing that those exclusives will rise in value? Also how can a person tell if a guitar is a Sam Ash exclusive? Just thinking someone somewhere may be thinking this is another way of scammming people .Looking at an Epiphone Florentine.
The Richlite era showed me how guitar players can be triggered into a full-blown melt down when their "formula" to what they think makes a guitar worthy is changed. "Jimmy Page's Les Paul had a rosewood fretboard, so mine has to have one too or there is just NO WAY my solo to Stairway will EVER sound the same as his!!" Meanwhile, the brutal reality is that it's not going to sound the same WITH the rosewood either. High dollar guitar manufacturers such as PRS are also to blame, making people believe that a guitar is worth $5,000 - $15,000 all because it has a fretboard made from some kind of Brazilian Wonder Lumber.
I think it was more about price (although I'm sure there were people like that lol). If Gibson had taken a different approach & made richlite board guitars more affordable, I think folks might have been more open to its use but they went the opposite route. Gibson were nothing but a victim of their own greed.
@@jubei7259 I think an ebony fretboard blank (maybe differences between gaboon, african, Macassar, etc) costs anywhere from $10-$45. Let's round it up to $50 just to go all out. A Richlite blank is around $20. That being said, I guess knocking a Les Paul Custom down from $5,499 to $5,449 should do it, lol.
I remember when boutique/high end guitar builders were using Richlite and it was touted as being BETTER than regular wood fret boards. It was also a premium charge for Richlite because it did NOT have any of the common issues that wood fret boards have with humidity and temp. changes. With no surprise, the guitar community ate it up. Until... When Gibson had to start using it, all those same people started to say how horrible Richlite was. It's crazy since they were paying more for Richlite to be put on boutique guitars just a year or two earlier.
The pushback against richlite really says a lot about the guitar community in general. It's actually uniform black, doesn't crack, easy to clean and feels great. It's an improved ebony in every aspect that matters for a fretboard.
I've got a Gibson Les Paul custom with Bolivian Rosewood ( Pao Ferro) from that Era. At first I had a love hate relationship with it but now I've grown to love it! Especially after seeing Slash has one.
What a lot of people don't understand is that fretboards vary based on looks and feel, not sound. The strings never make contact with the fretboard. The tones you get from your electric come from the pickups and the sustain comes from the body. Fretboard wood does not affect tone nor has it ever been proven otherwise. It's a myth. Richlite is the closest to ebony which is why it was used. Yes it may be cheaper to source and yes it may not be a raw piece of wood, but I don't think Gibson tried to cut corners on cost for a measly 25-30 bucks a guitar if it meant ruining their reputation.
I always love custom with this kind of finish. The binding makes the diffrence from the standard. The maple neck surely make it sound different from mahogany one, more snappy
I have a Martin acoustic dx1ce with a rich light neck and I really like it because it is so stable. It's the only guitar I have with Rich light and I don't notice the difference at all and I've been playing for 50 years. To be honest when I tell people about the rich light neck I brag about it because it's so stable.
I mean, Godin up in Canada still uses Richlite… maybe Ebony is banned in Canada? Or you could use “Amaranth” aka black dyed Purple Heart, which is actually a harder tone wood compared to ebony (so it will wear out cutting tools)
Call me crazy, but I’ve never been picky when it comes to Richlite or any wood material on the fingerboard for that matter. In my humble opinion, I think the wood for the neck matters the most. The neck stability, the feel of the neck, and the slight variations in tone, to me, take precedence over other specifications such as the fingerboard.
Those sort of look like "Bourns" branded Push Pull Pots. I have a couple of them I put into my Gibson SG's and the turn resistance is notably lighter than Gibson/CTS standard pots from my experience.
this guitar sounds good! it looks good i bet it plays good. its a good option if you are looking for a cs custom, its unique and ide love to have one someday!
Salutations Austin! That’s a very nice “Modern Beauty” Les Paul Custom! It has a really beautiful top and the neck is also very nice as well! Thanks for sharing! Please have an excellent and awesome day! ☀️✨🎸
beautiful guitar for sure with a price out the roof for me. i have a 1981 cherry sunburst custom and i payed 1100 for it used and its good enough for me
@@JR-to8sn Sounds artificial to me. "Richlite is made from post-consumer recycled paper. Sheets of paper are stacked up and saturated with a phenolic resin, then heat and pressure are applied. The resin then thermosets permanently with zero off-gassing." "Phenolic resins are a type of synthetic thermosetting resin invented by Dr. Leo Baekeland in 1907."
@@WackyT08 Have you ever tried one with Richlite? I'll tell you, it feels great and looks great, better than most ebony these days tbh. Martin has been using Richlite for years, even before Gibson. Gibson stopped because of "purest boomers" complaining that is wasn't "authentic".
@@WackyT08 It's all a matter of preference. I love ebony and RW. But my point it that Richlite isn't bad at all, there are many misconceptions and preconceived notions about it.
Richlite is a great material - I prefer it to wood as it does not swell and contract with temperature and humidity, no/low maintenance (no conditioning, just wipe off with damp rag) and it lasts forever. It feels just fine and you can get it in almost any color. I just had a custom 8-string commissioned and I ordered Richlite for the fretboard.
@@DeltaJazzUK Because a) it is expensive and b) I like the look of wood grain on the body and neck. Wood is primarily an aesthetics thing on guitars. Nothing wrong with that - visuals are important. But a fretboard choice has functional implications - like fret sprout, cracking, etc. Richlite looks great as a fretboard (indistinguishable from ebony from a distance) and is a more robust material.
I'm shocked it's a short neck tenon..even reissues should be long neck as it's just better, but purest prolly want that...I'm not a purest lol...really nice looking guitar Forsure...
Through Trogly, I've come to realize that, in all its various models, there have been more Les Pauls made than there are people on Earth. Seems like we should all have one...
Trogly and I have different views…he says that guitar is very good…I would have know problem with someone calling that guitar “mint”…but I’m not a collector
Gibson and Epiphone still need to make lots of improvements on these Pro buckers. At the same time they are trying to silence one of the two coils, they still end up choking the other. It sounds tinny. They need to research the methods utilized by other manufacturers in creating coil tapping.
"Garbage" is a bit extreme. It is post-consumer recycled paper - no potato peelings were harmed in the making of the Richlite 😂. Every soda bottle and water bottle you buy is made of "garbage" according to your definition.
@@DanielBobke Yeah... Soda costs like $2. Gibson Custom costs like $5000 and I don't throw it away after the first time I use it. Paper you threw away is "garbage" in the literal sense. Empty soda bottles are "garbage" "post-consumer recycled" lmao
@@imnotme1657 And the cork sniffing begins... It is a manmade material. You also don't put your mouth on the fretboard like you do the soda bottle made of "garbage". Your whole analogy makes no sense.
@@DanielBobke I am not "cork sniffing". You just don't like what I said and need to put a few layers of marketing on it so you can act like "post-consumer recycled" materials are not garbage when they are. Go be insecure about your collection somewhere else.
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Do you think since Sam Ash is closing that those exclusives will rise in value? Also how can a person tell if a guitar is a Sam Ash exclusive? Just thinking someone somewhere may be thinking this is another way of scammming people .Looking at an Epiphone Florentine.
The Richlite era showed me how guitar players can be triggered into a full-blown melt down when their "formula" to what they think makes a guitar worthy is changed. "Jimmy Page's Les Paul had a rosewood fretboard, so mine has to have one too or there is just NO WAY my solo to Stairway will EVER sound the same as his!!" Meanwhile, the brutal reality is that it's not going to sound the same WITH the rosewood either. High dollar guitar manufacturers such as PRS are also to blame, making people believe that a guitar is worth $5,000 - $15,000 all because it has a fretboard made from some kind of Brazilian Wonder Lumber.
I think it was more about price (although I'm sure there were people like that lol). If Gibson had taken a different approach & made richlite board guitars more affordable, I think folks might have been more open to its use but they went the opposite route. Gibson were nothing but a victim of their own greed.
@@jubei7259 I think an ebony fretboard blank (maybe differences between gaboon, african, Macassar, etc) costs anywhere from $10-$45. Let's round it up to $50 just to go all out. A Richlite blank is around $20. That being said, I guess knocking a Les Paul Custom down from $5,499 to $5,449 should do it, lol.
Agreed, richlite was a premium feature at other guitar builders til Gibson started using it.
Paul Reed Smith begs to differ, don’t let our old man know about this 😂
I remember when boutique/high end guitar builders were using Richlite and it was touted as being BETTER than regular wood fret boards. It was also a premium charge for Richlite because it did NOT have any of the common issues that wood fret boards have with humidity and temp. changes. With no surprise, the guitar community ate it up. Until... When Gibson had to start using it, all those same people started to say how horrible Richlite was. It's crazy since they were paying more for Richlite to be put on boutique guitars just a year or two earlier.
If Gibson does it, it must be bad.
Then they go buy a copy with all of the same peculiarities, like the competitor's ad copy intended.
The pushback against richlite really says a lot about the guitar community in general. It's actually uniform black, doesn't crack, easy to clean and feels great. It's an improved ebony in every aspect that matters for a fretboard.
One of the nicest I've ever seen, not blingy or overdone, just very beautiful wood, custom buckers,
Thought the same thing!!! Couldn’t agree more!
Agreed. Sounds exceptionally nice, too.
Isn't Sweetwater the ones that put candy in the delivery 👍🇺🇸
Still do.
I'm eating sweetwater candy right now
I've got a Gibson Les Paul custom with Bolivian Rosewood ( Pao Ferro) from that Era. At first I had a love hate relationship with it but now I've grown to love it! Especially after seeing Slash has one.
That colour with gold hardware, just works!
Perfect Les Paul nice and ornate without being gaudy !
Richlite was a game changer for me. I love it. I wish they'd use it more often.
Incredibly beautiful guitar nice find Austin. I hope you’re keeping that one.
That is One of the
Most beautiful guitars I’ve ever seen!
I remember the 2011 Les Paul Classic had a baked maple fretboard.
I like how many different tones you can get out of it that is really cool
What a lot of people don't understand is that fretboards vary based on looks and feel, not sound. The strings never make contact with the fretboard. The tones you get from your electric come from the pickups and the sustain comes from the body. Fretboard wood does not affect tone nor has it ever been proven otherwise. It's a myth. Richlite is the closest to ebony which is why it was used. Yes it may be cheaper to source and yes it may not be a raw piece of wood, but I don't think Gibson tried to cut corners on cost for a measly 25-30 bucks a guitar if it meant ruining their reputation.
I believe the guy up here in Maine that you bought the fancy Namm SG from has a Bats In Flight LP for sale on Marketplace.
I always love custom with this kind of finish. The binding makes the diffrence from the standard.
The maple neck surely make it sound different from mahogany one, more snappy
Trogly, you should be the Gibson CEO someday. You know more about Gibson guitars than Gibson. 🙂
I have a Martin acoustic dx1ce with a rich light neck and I really like it because it is so stable. It's the only guitar I have with Rich light and I don't notice the difference at all and I've been playing for 50 years. To be honest when I tell people about the rich light neck I brag about it because it's so stable.
I love richlite and other composites applications in guitars. Carbon Fiber also. The first rain song I fingered sound as good as my Taylor 814ce.
I love maple neck Gibsons
cool guitar. i missed the explanation of why there were no output readings on the multi meter. thanks
Beautiful guitar, beautiful tones. 🤘
That's a perfect tobacco burst!!
Beautiful guitar. Loving the color.
❤️🔥🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽❤️🔥
I mean, Godin up in Canada still uses Richlite… maybe Ebony is banned in Canada?
Or you could use “Amaranth” aka black dyed Purple Heart, which is actually a harder tone wood compared to ebony (so it will wear out cutting tools)
Call me crazy, but I’ve never been picky when it comes to Richlite or any wood material on the fingerboard for that matter.
In my humble opinion, I think the wood for the neck matters the most. The neck stability, the feel of the neck, and the slight variations in tone, to me, take precedence over other specifications such as the fingerboard.
That binding looks thicker than normal!
Those sort of look like "Bourns" branded Push Pull Pots. I have a couple of them I put into my Gibson SG's and the turn resistance is notably lighter than Gibson/CTS standard pots from my experience.
I was saying “boo-urns”
i actually quite like this one Mr Trogly.
It's a great example
Cheers from NZ
I like Richlite!
it looks if the 90s and 70s lp customs in one love it
How about BC Richlite?
Fantastic sounding guitar
this guitar sounds good! it looks good i bet it plays good. its a good option if you are looking for a cs custom, its unique and ide love to have one someday!
Salutations Austin!
That’s a very nice “Modern Beauty” Les Paul Custom!
It has a really beautiful top and the neck is also very nice as well!
Thanks for sharing!
Please have an excellent and awesome day!
☀️✨🎸
Love the flamed necks!!
I‘ll take a dark purple studio 2nd gen with flamed neck please 😂😂
lp custom is my personal favorite
I have a '21 studio dark with a richlite board. It feels really good...
Trogly is late like the mod shop! Hahahaha just giving you the business.
Beautiful top and color on that one 👏👍🤘🎸
beautiful guitar for sure with a price out the roof for me. i have a 1981 cherry sunburst custom and i payed 1100 for it used and its good enough for me
What's your opinion on the music Zoos Roasted woods exclusives. those are pretty sweet in my eyes.
Richlite is far superior
Yeah i wasn't expecting that kind of honk out of this guitar either.
Beautiful top on that baby...Thanks Trogly !
Pretty much every guitar I look for Sweetwater doesn't have option showcases. If they were more predominant, I would probably use Sweetwater
I believe the $$$ cutoff is $600 for photo options.
I prefer real wood fretboards over artificial.
Richlite isn't artificial, it's wood pulp, i.e. paper and resin.
@@JR-to8sn Sounds artificial to me.
"Richlite is made from post-consumer recycled paper. Sheets of paper are stacked up and saturated with a phenolic resin, then heat and pressure are applied. The resin then thermosets permanently with zero off-gassing."
"Phenolic resins are a type of synthetic thermosetting resin invented by Dr. Leo Baekeland in 1907."
@@WackyT08 Have you ever tried one with Richlite? I'll tell you, it feels great and looks great, better than most ebony these days tbh. Martin has been using Richlite for years, even before Gibson. Gibson stopped because of "purest boomers" complaining that is wasn't "authentic".
@@JR-to8sn I'll stick with rosewood and maple.
@@WackyT08 It's all a matter of preference. I love ebony and RW. But my point it that Richlite isn't bad at all, there are many misconceptions and preconceived notions about it.
Richlite is a great material - I prefer it to wood as it does not swell and contract with temperature and humidity, no/low maintenance (no conditioning, just wipe off with damp rag) and it lasts forever. It feels just fine and you can get it in almost any color. I just had a custom 8-string commissioned and I ordered Richlite for the fretboard.
I have an ES-355 with a richlite board. Plays great, feels great, but still just seems wrong for some dumb reason.
If it's so great why didn't you have the whole guitar made out of Richlite?
@@DeltaJazzUK Because a) it is expensive and b) I like the look of wood grain on the body and neck. Wood is primarily an aesthetics thing on guitars. Nothing wrong with that - visuals are important. But a fretboard choice has functional implications - like fret sprout, cracking, etc. Richlite looks great as a fretboard (indistinguishable from ebony from a distance) and is a more robust material.
Great material for wannabes🤣
This probably left the factory like that 😂 i would call it mint. Or maybe "Demo Shop didnt exist yet mint"
Do you actually keep each of the guitars that you review?
No, he only keeps the really special ones for his planned museum. The rest he sells on his website.
Nice guitar.
That Natural Blonde! 🔥
I'm shocked it's a short neck tenon..even reissues should be long neck as it's just better, but purest prolly want that...I'm not a purest lol...really nice looking guitar Forsure...
Through Trogly, I've come to realize that, in all its various models, there have been more Les Pauls made than there are people on Earth. Seems like we should all have one...
Get in quick before Joe Bonamassa has all the western worlds quota
She's purty
43.79 mm - That neck is pretty wide.
Trogly and I have different views…he says that guitar is very good…I would have know problem with someone calling that guitar “mint”…but I’m not a collector
Love it!
LOVE THE LOOK...A LITTLE TWANGY for me.. but beautiful to look at...!!!
Too much "luxury" Les Pauls looks like chibsons to me.
The stark white plastics are standout too much. 👎
Imagine buying a hammer and then complaining that somebody hit a nail with it. It's a tool meant to be used as such Don't be a case queen
I have one of these. Any interest?
Kinda like a PRS wood library where a dealer spec's out certain woods used in a very limited run just for them.
Nice!
Gibson and Epiphone still need to make lots of improvements on these Pro buckers. At the same time they are trying to silence one of the two coils, they still end up choking the other. It sounds tinny. They need to research the methods utilized by other manufacturers in creating coil tapping.
Were can I get one great sounding guitar . Thanks trogly
Custom Widows with rosewood look bad, but this one looks amazing
What's up everyone?!?
Longneck
Let’s go!!!
I’ll take it off your hands for 5 bucks and a case of beer please
Z is for 11 hours late.
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Greetings Biker Jon.
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I HATE gold hardware, its totally worthless if you want to play it, it scratches sooooooooooooo easily
Yo
all these guitars look the same
No difference between ebony and richlite. You literally can't hear a difference
Once I found out richelite was made of pressed garbage I lost interest lol
"Garbage" is a bit extreme. It is post-consumer recycled paper - no potato peelings were harmed in the making of the Richlite 😂. Every soda bottle and water bottle you buy is made of "garbage" according to your definition.
@@DanielBobke Yeah... Soda costs like $2. Gibson Custom costs like $5000 and I don't throw it away after the first time I use it.
Paper you threw away is "garbage" in the literal sense. Empty soda bottles are "garbage"
"post-consumer recycled" lmao
@@imnotme1657 And the cork sniffing begins... It is a manmade material. You also don't put your mouth on the fretboard like you do the soda bottle made of "garbage". Your whole analogy makes no sense.
@@DanielBobke I am not "cork sniffing".
You just don't like what I said and need to put a few layers of marketing on it so you can act like "post-consumer recycled" materials are not garbage when they are.
Go be insecure about your collection somewhere else.
Did you nod off at school when anything technical was taught? Just a strong theory.
Gibson needs to get rid of the fretboard binding and pick guards. They just take away from the beauty of the guitar
I dunno. Maybe it's your Amp settings but I was not impressed with the sound. The dirt just didn't sing for me.
I’m willing to bet most people that poo poo richlite have never even played one…just saying 🫤