@@karsguitarchannel6088 Exactly! I love EVH. He’s my second favorite after Hendrix but he said he only listened Clapton when he was with Cream and then he didn’t listen any music. And I was like “dude… seriously? 😑”
This is the God's honest truth ..When I was 11 years old, I was in the car with the family and we were headed to the newly opened Rockaway Mall here in NJ .. I was scanning through the radio stations and paused when a DJ said "here's a brand new one from a band called Van Halen".. This was probably Feb 1978 .. On comes You Really Got Me and even my Dad - who played the guitar and was into guys like Tal Farlow, Kenny Burrell and Chet Atkins - was looking down at the radio with a "holy shit" expression on his face ... When we got to the mall, the priority became to find the album from this Van Halen band ..... I had an 8 track at home, so we bought the 8 track tape .. After arriving home, I headed straight for my room and popped in the tape .. Before the 2nd song ended, I sensed something wrong - I thought there was an issue with the 8 track, perhaps the tape was somehow speeding up or the tape itself was spilling off the spools inside the player .. Fearing that this tape would clog up my prized 8 track player, I fumbled to eject it and take it out ... Even though the Van Halen 8 track appeared to be fine, I took it into the family room where my Dad was and told him that something was wrong with the tape, and I was afraid it would jam and clog the player ... My Dad was great, he's like "ok, let's take it back and buy the LP" .. When we got back home, my Dad's curiosity was piqued , so we headed to the family room and he put the album on the turntable of the enormous console stereo .. The 2nd song comes around, and BOOM, same unearthly sound - like nothing we've ever heard .... There was nothing wrong with the tape, nothing wrong with the record - it was simply my first time hearing Eruption .....
"Dream" amazed me. Maybe it was because I was in the Navy and on a bus from Coronado Island going over to Downtown San Diego. I had my headphones on with that 5150 cassette in. Magical feeling!!
That's what I assumed too. Eddie was introverted (and also shy) and I remember some interviews with VH where he wasn't there and there was a note somewhere from the interviewer that he didn't feel up to talking. Even before he got sober, Eddie seemed to get worn out around a bunch of people, but if he decided he didn't want to do something then he wouldn't do it too. Maybe he kept trying to catch him on a bad day, maybe Eddie just didn't want to meet him.
I think for guitar solo's it was Eddie's best album overall. I know I'm the one from the first album is probably his best solo after eruption but VH II had a killer solo in every song except dance the night away.
@@bripslag Hell, I can play Eruption pretty damn close. At least well enough to convince most folks, lol! But most of Yngwie's stuff still escapes me. Interesting side note. When most people find out I play guitar, they ask if I can play Eruption. After all these years it's still sort of the litmus test for guitar players. Nobody's ever asked if I can play Far Beyond the Sun.
@@shakebabyhitler I can pretty much play Eruption as well. But what a lot of people don't get is that playing it and WRITING it are two different things. Especially in 1978. Nobody even knew what is was when it came out!
@@butcho7492 Testify! I had been playing (mostly Kiss tunes) for about a year when VH1 came out. We had no idea what Eddie was doing. And you're absolutely right, playing it is sort of impressive, while writing it at 24yrs old in '78 is crazy cool. That said, I think Yngwie was only about 20 when he wrote Far Beyond the Sun. Also an impressive feat.
it’s funny, when my dad heard the first Van Halen record in 1978, he stopped taking guitar lessons cause “who could compete with that!”, and about 30 years later (2008) when I first heard eruption I was inspired to learn guitar and practice to this day
I met Yngwie in Gainesville Florida in 1993ish and he was really cool. He signed some stuff, talked, looked me in the eyes, gave me a signed photo with the whole band from inside the bus and introduced me to them.
I always felt Yngwie was full of himself and looked it while playing while Eddie was so naturally good he just looked to be enjoying it all and not showing off. It took me 20+ years to listen to a whole album by Yngwie (Rising Force). I knew he was amazing, but had to separate my earlier experiences with his playing to appreciate him.
Eh? Evh was always much more showoffy and into stunt style guitar than yngwie. It seems like on the 2005 internet someone announced yngwie was "too full of himself" and its just been repeated since then by people fishing for approval. It doesn't make any sense. If anything he seems way more jokey and laid back than more rockstars. My theory: american guitarists get stuck at blues scales because of how guitar was taught here for 2 generations, and they hate anyone who doesnt get stuck there with them.
your theory is wrong.People have always said that about him and people only need to read old interviews or old clips (or even what ex-band members or techs has to say about him) to see that this is true. There is a reason he was being laughed at in Sweden. @@user-wu8up5bj9d
I don't know if I have ever seen an interview by Yngwie and thought he was full of himself, but I have seen some older interviews of Eddie and thought that, both guys seemed more down to earth as they got older.
Yngwie had heard Eddie as a teenager and loved his earlier playing. So he went through a Van Halen phase just as many of us did with Eddies playing. But Yngwie took the tapping to another level on Steelers' Hot on your Heel's solo where he included some tapping towards the end of it. "Aint talkin about love" is a great song too...I thinkl that is why Yngwie has always been about trying to get it perfect on the first take and using no overdubs with solos.
"Nobody walks around humming a Yngwie tune or at least not very many people.' I did and many around me in the 80s and early 90s. I still sing his solos with silly tongue and lip contortions LOL. Check his work with Derek Sherinian. Viking Massacre and The Monsoon are amazing songs!
Eddie didn't just play the scales like most guitarist alot of that was his hands going were they knew to go from the soul that's why nobody really can play like him
Listening to Yngwie, I think he gives an honest and respectful overview. Yngwie was like Eddie, in that he was fast, articulate, dynamic. Early on he had a lot of Eddie in his style, but then, he was a kid! Since the early 80s, he evolved in a very unique way, inventing the Neo-Classical genre really. Basically, taking the intensity of Van Halen, with the phrasing of Uli, Blackmore, etc. Like everyone in the small category of Best Guitarists, he learned from what came before, then blended it into his own style.
James Martin Gurley from Janis Joplin, Ritchie Blackmore, Uli Jon Roth, were the guitarists who laid down the Neo Classical Rock guitar genre. Yngwie took it to a new intensity, approach. Saw his very first gig at a club called Wolfgangs in San Francisco. Rhythm section Anvil Chorus had backed him up. Also few other gigs with his own band, during early to mid '80s. His 1985 tour was the most memorable.
@@hinjurock70 Really? C'mon...Melodic in what sense? Gary Moore and SRV are light years ahead of melodic playing compared to EVH. Eddie was great at what he did but...
@@fenderboy68 You can't compare EVH to a limited player like SRV - he only played blues rock with a little funk thrown in. No way in hell could he play solos as skillful as Eddie. Gary Moore was great, but Eddie's riffs and solos were more original and more memorable.
@@hinjurock70 Forget it. Once I hat a debate with a guy that knew that Angus Young is a way better player than Yngwie. Shure, Moore and SRV were super good players, but they did not trasnscend the way of guitar playing. Eddy and Yngwie are such players. There are more of them: George Lynch, Randy Rhoads, Steve Vai, Uli John Roth, Alan Holdsworth, Al Di Meola, Shawn Lane, Jason Becker. We have to accept that this type of player is not first choice for everybody.
Michael Schenker: "I love Eddie's playing, you know, he's for me, by far the best guitar player. And even though I wasn't listening to music, you could never get away [from] hearing [it] anywhere... And so really, he was fascinating. I mean, he's my favorite guitar player."
I'm pretty sure they did meet though? It wasn't publicized but I thought I heard Steve talk about meeting him? Like with Nuno Bettencourt, when Eddie died he said they had met and hung out countless times but he has only like one picture of them together cause he was usually in the moment of it. Eddie was introverted and had social anxiety, and as his addiction got worse, he wasn't in a position to see anyone. But even when he got sober he became semi-recluisive. In general it wasn't til Eddie passed that I started seeing photos of people he hanged out with or knew, he just didn't like to do stuff in the public eye, or for publicity. If he thought someone only wanted to meet him to have it publicized, yeah, I wouldn't want to do it either. Eddie was low-key, especially after he got sober
Eddie is one of those few players who are just so comfortable and in complete control of their guitar it really does just look like an appendage to his body like an arm or leg. Every move it makes is natural and a fluid part of who he is. SRV looks like that to me as well. Some great players make it look like a separate tool from them that they are operating to its highest potential . It just looks different to me as soon as the strap goes on, and they grab the neck and body and do a little shoulder roll strap sea saw to seat it in. It becomes a tool or a body part to my eyes.
Its called practice. The type of practice that people like you would never understand or have the discipline to do. You couldn't imagine practicing a 6 note lick at 40bpm, day and night for 4 straight years until its pure perfection and you can pull it off without warming up at will, and even do it on an acoustic guitar just as dynamic as an amplified guitar, so you believe goofy theories like what you just wrote. Or might even believe asinine stuff such as, "he was born with something extra". Its just practice buddy. Trust me.
@@equalleftrights3130 Hey cynicaldickhead! Do you always begin conversations with strangers by assuming their position on something without any evidence supporting your assumptions? Of do you pride yourself in spawning out-of-con-TEXT's (pretty good huh?) claims in hopes you hooked a fool, who wouldn't see the insecure child behind the mask between your 4th & 21st word? Lucky for you; I'm one who will shame your trespasses, then forgive and forget, and not another curse will be spoken to you from me, now. I may not have been clear in my previous reply, as I have had "the gifted vs. the passionate" debate a few times myself, and as you do, I understand this truth. I also believe that with like Eddie or SRV as my example of the guitar being "an extension of their body" ? ? ? (am I correct in putting my own quotes in quotations?) Anyway, I believe this may have to do with starting so young that your body and mind are still in development, therefore when every free moment you have is running round your fret board, this becomes part of your original development like walking, talking and masturbation. Just a natural thing to do. But it would be interesting to know, and then try to comprehend the actual amount of hours = days = years these examples, and others actually had in playing times along with noodling around time. A playing thru vs. noodling vs. intentional practice, scales etc. I'm 55 years old, and started playing when I was 13/14? Alex Lifeson's sound on the RUSH 2112 album on the side with overture has some of the most eargasmic licks (Imo) that still hold top honor for me to this day. I'm a hard & heavy sound fan, so That 2112 album was out in the too far prog realm in appearance, but it changed me, as back then it cost some money to be able to listen to what you wanted to right then, so after school for months I would throw the headphones on and do the entire album daily, and usually fall asleep with them on. Black Sabbath and Mr. Iommi, aka (Riff lord) inventor of Heavy Metal Was the final sound that attached itself to my beings groove bones, so along the way the few songs that I wrote we assumable to have noticeable influence. 2 Were truly fuckn good to great songs, and still haven't played them with a good or correct type singer. High on the Hog & 16 minutes away. They exist nowhere but in my mind, and (no kidding) on a cassette tape of my drummers wife's friend i was hooking up with off and on. For whatever reasons we quit playing around my mid 20's? Wife and kid. Didn't pick it up again for probably 10 years? and not even long enough to get as loose as I once was. Just picked it up again by blessings of covd boredom, and thanks to the internet I have picked a few new ones completely, and who knows how many pieces of hot spots in songs. NOW A CONFESSION. (partially) I Do understand the discipline it takes to just run scales of finger techniques just because you should, I have bacic understanding in music theory, and you were correct... I did lack the discipline to practice any further than playing with the band or learning a new song. I can, or could play any riff at any speed with any alternating pick directions timing etc. I Could just hear it, feel it, do it. I just never took the time to get into leads, and I have always regretted it. High on the Hog has the most difficult ones I play, but a buddy from a different band helped me to get what I heard to strings, and their is some of him that sounded better and stayed. My Riff my lyrics, and my lazy ass was good enough for the other stuff, so I never found that transfer in the pocket do do anything other than sound the same running in order. I know when it's right, I just cannot develop my own, and my lead player was fine for all the know songs, so I didn't bother. Now I hope that didn't bore you too much, with the story of my disappointment in myself. Their were absolute great times as well I am one of the very few who still has his first ax. It gets worse.... I really like the cheap old Chinese super-strat. A kamen GTX-33 with dual humbucks, and a floating Floyd, with the neck lock and quick tunes, that somehow seems to hold tune as well as any other more expensive ones i've had. Maybe because its impossible for me to ever play another guitar for that many hours as I have that one, but I fall in love with something new from time to time, and it's action is so much better, flawlessly smooth neck/fret feeling. Buy whenever I grab that old cheap whore, and get them cheap pods where they bite sustain; we fuck hard bro, it's just i know where ol girls g-spot is. It was in a shed for 10 years in the middle of the US. 100 plus in the summer with high humidity and a few days of sub-zero temps LEANNING against the corner. Headstock cracked, and I repaired. I just love the dirty whore. You don't still have yours do you? If you do your young If both those statements are incorrect It's a very rare club. Welcome
Kar , love your channel. All you know and the way you tell it is about the great music. I envy your experience and talent. Thanks so much. All my best ! 💥💯🇺🇸🎸
Sorry, malmsteen is a phenomenal guitar player but his influence is pretty minor in comparison to Eddie's, or any other big name mainstream lead guitarist. Kirk Hammett is more influential than yngwie, just not as talented.
@@crankfastle8138 Agreed, I also Malmsteen's playing is a bit much. I know many love that style but for me it's a little to much. I have great respect for his playing just the same.
@@crankfastle8138Rhoads was just as talented and influential as EVH. Only 2 albums to prove it. If Randy would have lived longer, his influence would have been even more revelant. He certainly had more skill than Kirk Hammett. He was a cross between Eddie and Yngwie. It's a real shame we didn't get more music from him.
@@crankfastle8138Yngwie is far more influential than Eddie. Literally most modern metal guitarists try to copy his Phrygian Dominant/Hatmonic Minor shred style. Eddie wrote more mainstream melodies that everyone knows, but that doesn't mean he's more influential, but more mainstream. There's nothing to copy from Eddie, he just writes great melodies but no style differentiates him from other guitarists. You can literally hear any modern metal song nowadays and be like "oh that sounds like Yngwie".
Yngwie redeemed himself to me, recognizing Van Halen's importance to the evolution of guitar playing was righteous - after Van Halen, Yngwie was the next guitar player that blew my brains out with his playing in Alcatrazzz.............!
Yngwie has always been very gracious and respectful of EVH. I can understand EVH maybe not wanting to meet him. We’re all human beings, and as such are flawed. Eddie might have been a little intimidated by his playing, and to be honest, who wouldn’t? Eddie also might have heard certain things about Yngwie’s personality in certain circles that caused him to avoid meeting him. In other words, there could have been a myriad of reasons. One thing that is undeniable is that they were both born with a great gifting, and both earned their places very high up in the history of guitar playing.
@@nicholasdorazio10 …thanks! I always try to think rationally before I comment on such matters. I understand that everyone tends to have their favorite, and as such can let emotions or rumor form their opinion of someone else. For me, there is no “greatest” at any instrument, since all musicians have different styles, techniques, feel, and strengths and weaknesses.
Kind of hard to compare the two other than they are/were both amazing virtuosos. Eddie was an absolute master of all things Pentatonic, while Yngwie is heavy in to modes, diminished runs, extended arpeggios and all other things neo-classical. Though both are lightening fast, they have two totally different guitar philosophies. Also, Eddie co-fronted one of the most iconic modern rock bands, while Yngwie is mostly a solo act. Both are/were world class musicians who have contributed greatly to the art.
@@godloveszaza That's an opinion you are certainly entitled too but it should be noted that pentatonic scales are much easier to use than modes. I enjoy both of their styles as well as many other guitarists out there, and I don't make a habit of comparisons for who is best. I just enjoy and appreciate their music. This whole my dog's better than your dog is really kind of pointless.
Eddie was a classically trained pianist in his youth and won quite a few contests as a child. While Ed downplays he's never taken guitar lessons he certainly was a very gifted pianist at a very young age. To put him in the pentatonic box is to not entirely fair to his catalogue or understand music theory. Look at the part on Eruption with staccato neo-classicism , were he basically plays the classical piece from Etude #2 violin by Rodolphe Kreutzer . Certainly remembered from his youth as a classically trained pianist. If you listen closely to many of Ed's songs you can hear these little classical snippets thrown in quite a lot in his playing. ua-cam.com/video/xw3In21sbNA/v-deo.html Then you look at Cathedral which basically sounds like a classical violin with classically inflected arpeggios. When this album first was released , many musicians did not even know this was played on a guitar. Cathedral ua-cam.com/video/Nz7FDHlu52U/v-deo.html Then you have the flamenco and classical both influences on Spanish Fly and Little Guitars with Ed's own interpretation of the flamenco style. Spanish Fly ua-cam.com/video/cM7GZXeH6-g/v-deo.html Little Guitars ua-cam.com/video/Cd0i4cnzdJc/v-deo.html Then you have the intro to Mean Street with it's almost funk-like bass tapping. Basically he's slapping the guitar like a bass but added harmonics for the melody. Truly groundbreaking for the time and still hard to master today. Mean Street ua-cam.com/video/m4akn6e59TQ/v-deo.html Also look at the harmonics on the intro to Women In Love. With tapped harmonics and the use of delay to add that ethereal like effect. Women In Love ua-cam.com/video/2aQeiG0KAzU/v-deo.html There's even a slide guitar on the song Dirty Movies. You can hear it in the background on the intro to this song. He played slide on and old Gibson SG. Dirty Movies ua-cam.com/video/YVG5ZWOBEF0/v-deo.html All this and I haven't really even scratched the surface of Ed's influence on guitar players or even gotten into his rhythm parts , a whole other level. I think his rhythm stuff even eclipses his solo work. You really can't put him a category. Did he play pentatonics , yes but he was so so much more. In fact I read so many articles from musicians trying to put him in a defined category as far as scales go , you really can't he changed how we all looked at guitar playing and still do to this day. While I love Yngwie too his playing influenced me immensely he basically uses the harmonic minor scale or its fifth mode, the Phrygian Dominant. This can be heard in almost all of his songs. He's awesome and I pretty much non stop listened to him through much of his early career. But Yngwie as far a innovation was kind of a two trick pony awesome as he is. People forget he damaged his hand and was in a coma , he recovered but I don't think he ever really got back 100% to his days when he played really really tight. Listen to some of those early alcatrazz solos and he's just so crisp and tight.
@@TheAgentAssassin Picking out snipets of non pentatonics in a mostly pentatonic repertoire is not a great argument. Young pianist aside, 90+% of what Eddie was doing was Pentatonics. Stunningly executed Pentatonics but pentatonics nonetheless. And also, being a pianist at a young age and knowing music theory means little when you play mostly pentatonics. Even with ear training, Eddies sound is very obviously pentatonic dominant. And yes, Yngwei's sound has a lot of Phrygian but also quite a bit of most of the other major modes as well, not to mention liberal use of arpeggios and diminished runs. As I said in my previous reply, I'm not saying anyone is better than anyone else, you are. And as I also said before if you want to be a fan boi, be my guest but let me state my opinion without having to defend it every time I post something. After all it is just an opinion.
Ed never ran from anything in his life, They said the same about Randy and Ed and it was all by bozos trying to get drama started, Ed had a family, Band issues, His own studio to run, Starting his own business and had shit to do, I don't think anything was as Personal as some would tell it to be...Could it be that Ed never met because he knew someone had something they were trying to Prove that he wanted no part of? I say the whole avoiding me thing is an Ego Trip gone horribly wrong...
Yes I think if Yngwie really wanted to meet Eddie, he had to go and meet him not asking someone to relay a message. On the other hand, Eddie knew that everyone was calling Yngwie the new guitar hero and everybody wanted to play like Yngwie so it's probably true that Eddie didn't want to meet Yngwie.
i truly think he didnt want to meet yngwie. u should hear the interview he had when randy died. the whole time hes just talking about how randy did nothing he didnt do and that randy just took all of his tricks. came off as very jealous
@@karsguitarchannel6088 There's stories of him meeting other monumental guitar heros coming up around the same time who Ed did meet and got along with at the time though. That's what makes me think he wasn't really avoiding him, because he would have avoided Nuno too, or anyone else who was up and coming, I think if he really wanted to meet Eddie he could have. Cause it wasn't like he was the only up and coming contender for the next guitar god back then
Yngwie wasn't saying all this initially. When he first arrived in the states, and started making waves, he was very arrogant.....especially about competing with Eddie. He took a lot of flak for thinking he was "gods gift". In later interviews....he started giving credit to Eddie because he started realizing, or someone told him, how badly he was coming across to the US fan base. He finally realized that there was plenty of room in the US market for more than one guitar hero.
Both Yngwie and Eddie were raging alcoholics in the 80's. It's hard to set your ego aside when you are hammered all the time. They probably both threatened each other's ego back then.
It was 1983, and I was in LA going to GIT in Hollywood and Eddie was on everybody’s mind…. when we all heard about this guitar wizard kid just landed and was playing at the Troubadour! Went and saw YNGWIE! Blew us away! It was a GREAT TIME! Randy Rhodes was also alive and well! It was a great year and amazing era!
@@evil6564 There are many guitarists who have high abilities in writing and creativity, and that's what makes people individuals. When you get to the level that these players occupy, it's not about who's better than who, but about enjoying all the different flavors, because it's all good. Any mature musician knows that.
@@jb-yi4di I disagree. Musicians of a certain caliber will agree there's one guitarist whose creativity and abilities transcend beyond the guitar. It's eddie. People who dedicate their life to music, without even touching a string instrument, tend to have a profound respect for eddie. You won't hear many pianists at berkeley trying to play yngwie on a piano.
@@jb-yi4di And my original point still stands. If you think you have ground to stand on saying it's a false statement that eddie is unmatched... I just wonder what you yourself could do with a guitar.
What I love about Edward Van Halen is that you can find something that's so uniquely HIM in everything he wrote that made him instantly recognizable. He even left his mark all over the remakes. While there are a lot of shredders and extremely technical players, I'm bored after 2 minutes with 90% of them because it just sounds like practice drills, and playing fast just for the sake of playing fast.🥱
I agree. EVH was a song guy. He wasn't just about mindless shredding. He played some really cool lines that actually added something to the songs and it never sounded clinical.
Yngwie's 1984 show with Alcatrazz (Live Sentence) is probably the most impressive live performance I have ever seen. Scattered UA-cam clips are still available. Love Randy and Edward to the end though.
EVH has has his own guitars & amps branded after his namesake! EVH also kept pushing the boundaries & parameters way beyond guitar shredder virtuosity! Also, he has another musical heir to his throne - KEEP ROCKING ON THE VH NAME Wolfgang Van Halen! 🤘🏾😎🎸 PS: But I'll still give Yngwie Malmsteen's 'Rising Force' its due respect too!
That's what Ingwie says now that he's mature and when Eddie has passed away but in the mid-80s, at a concert Ingwie put up a banner that said Eddie is dead
Yngwie's rise in popularity and being referred to as the fastest-playing guitarist around is what caused Eddie to shift his focus onto the keyboards. In 1984, Eddie was successful with softer more pop songs (heavier in synth) and was now referred to as an excellent musician not just a guitarist. So in a sense Yngwie inspired Eddie too.
Eddie relied too much on the two handed gimmick. It's not difficult to do, but sounds good, so people get fooled by it. he was flash over musicality. He was a very good player, but not the greatest.
@@gianthillsYou're the one who is fooled. You're overlooking everything that made him great. Tapping is far from the most impressive or influential things he did. But it's the fast sounding stuff that's recognizable to casuals who don't know much, and it's all they credit him for. You're showing your lack of knowledge or skill, and it's embarrassing.
@@evil6564 Been a musician 30 years, so you're wrong. The only reason you think Van Halen was so great is only because the band got big. There were thousands of players do the same thing at the time, who didn't luck out with a band that made it big. Most of his solos are senseless flash with scarcely any sense of musicality.
I think EVH was just too preoccupied to meet up with Yngwie whenever they were in the same town. He didn't hide from Allan Holdsworth or Michael Angelo Batio.
Yes I agree but on the other hand Eddie knew that everyone was calling Yngwie the new guitar hero and wanted to play like Yngwie. That's what George Lynch said as well.
Yngwie can only dream about being revered, loved and respected like Eddie is, and will always be. Just facts!! Not to mention he completely changed electric Rock guitar and how it's played!! I do give Mr Arrogant his due, as he is very talented. I give him that.
Eddie didn't 'write music' he 'played music'. Eddie didn't read notes to play, I'm sure he could, but he didn't. He was an improv jazz player at heart, like me. Yngwie writes music, reads notes and plays very many classical pieces. Stuff Eddie (and myself) find exponentially boring. Different kinds of musicians, and personally, I like doing it Eddie's way; that's just me.
@@hinjurock70 Which is what EVH did, whereas, Yngwie wrote in music language, could look at any piece of paper and play it upon first seeing it; That kind of musician, see what I mean?
@@ricktheexplorer Are you sure that Yngwie could read and write notation? He can play a lot of classical licks, but I never read or heard that he was formally trained in music.
@@hinjurock70 How do you think you learn classical? I can read a little, but to musicians better than me, reading music and playing it the first time you read it is standard.
Eddie made songs everyone liked, be they musicians or tone deaf. Only musicians know who yngwie is,and he mainly played a classical style which isn't nearly as innovative as all the styles (and tones) Edward has. Edward could put the highest skill level lick in a song and still make it groovy. I wish I had the smallest percentage of either players talent / skill though 😹
I'm not a guitarist. I have enjoyed VH since day 1. I discovered Yngvie much later with "trilogy". So very different. I never called it better, just different. Neo-gothic shredding and totally epic.
I always liked Vito because he openly gave EVH a lot of credit for how he developed his playing style --- other rock guitarists in the 80's would try to act coy and pretend that Eddie wasn't an influence and they seemed petty and jealous --- and the solo for "Little Fighter" is so memorable
Vito is refined EVH and Randy Rhoads, vito is a song writer his choice of notes and phrasing is true story telling, as a fan i didnt lose hope to see him get back in the scene
EVH had something Yngwie never will have and that is tone!!! Yngwie and a lot of the speedster players have that muddy neck single coil tone...But if that's your thing, go for it....
Great video however your opening statement is incorrect. Yngwie has publicly admitted on many occasions he was influenced by Jimi Hendrix and Ritchie Blackmore
Sorry but I have to disagree. Yngwie always tells the story how he saw Jimi Hendrix on Swedish TV and they showed Jimi burning his guitar and it just inspired Yngwie to become a guitar player and that's it. Yngwie also says that he wasn't influenced by any guitar player but he was influenced by Bach. I think what he means is that he developed his own style and he uses a lot of phrases from classical violin music. But of course he also uses blues scale and lots of blues rock licks and that's what Hendrix and Blackmore played before him. Thank you Chris for watching the video, much appreciated! Have an awesome rocking day!
It was with Alcatraz that I first saw Yngwie. I hated him! LOL It was on his 21st birthday. The reason I hated it was because I did not know a single song and they were opening up for Ted Nugent. After Rising Force came out I could hear and groove on his stuff. He was a total gamechanger. I friggin played that tape out until it probably melted. I must have seen Yngwie 12-13 times, and he was always on his game. I sterted to get tired of him after about his 4th album. He just kept on the same path with Harmonic Minor and Phrygian shit, and Arpeggio`s all over the place. So I got bored. What he saya about EVH not being around to meet him I believe 100% Ed is my favorite player ever. He is the GOAT. But he does some, or did some shady shit. After RR died Ed told Guitar World, or another mag, that RR learned everything from him. NOT COOL Ed. Ed never gave many other guys much credit. He was an insecure guy. That is why he was such a boozer. EVH is the MAN, but he sure could be a dick sometimes. Yngwie kinda does the same shit though. No matter, he was such a jolt of new energy, he opened doors!
Randy, in an interview published around early 1982 or late 1981 lamented that he was still playing a lot of EVH's licks. Back then people thought RR was a big EVH clone because they were the only guys on the radio both doing the hot-rodded lead guitar style with the tapping. EVH could have said some nicer things about Randy, but EVH was there first with that style, so he may have been ticked off that parts of his style were getting lifted.
I remember in an interview from back in the 80s of Yngwie saying that he sent invites to Eddie to come over and jam and they were just ignored. On the Eddie vs Randy thing. I think in the early club days Eddie was better than Randy during the Quiet riot days but by the time Randy joined Ozzy not only had Randy caught up with Eddie but Randy was heavier and a better composer playing real heavy metal. Outside of a few tracks Eddie pretty much was party pop rock and I would even say by the time of Van Hagar Eddie's best work was behind him the fire had went out.
@@flazjsg Yep. Remember, Ed would turn his back to the crowd when he tapped, cuz Al told him that people would copy his shit. So up until the first album dropped he never let you see him tap. EVH is the dude I loved, and his rhythm playing and songwriting is his best stuff. He could wail and tap, use the trel bar for little nuances and not just bomb it to flub strings. He was very aware of his competition. Here is where it gets easy for me flazjsg, I can play (with ease) every song RR ever did, solo as well. I cannot do Ed the same way. He is just too hard to get down. We all try to play VH stuff but we will never sound close to him. His pick attack, his bar work, his rhythm playing needs his own hands. We sound the way we do as guitarists because of our hands. But to try to even hit the right notes is so very hard, if you are honest with yourself. RR is so very easy to play note for note. That closes my argument on the thing. RR was super good and wrote great riffs, but also I need to talk about his tone. It sucks. He sounds like he is playing a Pignose amp with an MXR distortion pedal and some flange. It sounds brittle as hell. Ed sounds BIG and clean with good tube overdrive and a lil echoplex and MXR phase 90. Okay , I will shut up now heheee!
@@gib59er56 Agree that Eddie is really hard to copy versus other hard rock, metal players. He had a real unique and grooving sense of time - some of those Eddie licks are just funky and hard to really cop. Maybe other guitarists are faster or more articulate, especially these days, but they seem easier to copy. It’s just fast, not with a strange time feel. Other guys sounded like they practiced a whole lot and are accomplished - but Eddie got the JUICE baby
Saw Eddie in the 1980’s loved Van Halen albums. Yngwie is super fast…a shredder but so what there’s many of those style guitarists out there. What they don’t seem to have is the cool sound, the phrasing. To be honest Eddie did have that unique sound. The tapping, well there’s lots who did it before Eddie, Ace Frehley for one. I’d take a brilliant guitarist like Rory Gallagher, just listen to some of the sounds he gets out of his Fender…and when playing the blues..wow what an authentic sound..wayyy back to old Mississippi..😂😂😂😂 those notes make the hairs on my arm stand up, unlike Yngwie same as Blackmore or Page a lot of their stuff is ok but nothing that moves me. Now listen to Rory Gallagher, Jimmy Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan , Eddie Van Halen, Jonnie Winter and Gary Moore then you got me glued to the spot.
There was a time I thought Yngwie was a top 3 and then 5 minutes later I knew better. It’s just the same stuff over and over, a scale exercise. He’s a great player and probably even more technically proficient than anyone, but it’s like a smart nerd that has no common sense. Eddie has it all. And he’s forever the best of my generation.
Trust me the word had already gotten out to Ed that Yngwie was a arrogant clown, so it doesn’t surprise me that he avoided him at all cost. Even when Malmsteen is trying to be humble he’s still full of himself.
Eddie was of course great and I generally prefer EVH to Yngwie. That being said I do have some of Yngwie CDs and I give him a lot of credit for creating his own style and not just being another carbon copy player. EVH may have popularized tapping and a myriad of other guitar tricks, but Yngwie was really the one to popularize sweep picking.
@@hinjurock70 Like or dislike who you want. I like Piggy but I know a couple of people that hate his playing. My only point was that it's hard to accuse Yngwie of being a clone. He was pretty unique when he entered the scene, and while people did sweep picking before him, he was the guy who started the craze.
Eddie Van Halen said in an interview that he hated talking to people because he'd rather be playing music. He told the interviewer (Kurt Loder) that he even hated doing that interview! To each his own. I don't think he disliked Yngwie or anything like that.
Eddy was the complete musician. Song writer. Rhythm player. Classic guitar solos. Yngwie is good at what he does. If I was stranded on an island and had choose one to listen to, it would be Eddy.
I don't like Yngwie..But i worked on both guitarist..Honestly Yngwie is much better guitarist than Eddie..Eddie is became a legend..so it s doesn't touch
@@ericgisclon8122 technically yes Yngwie is better. I think he just needed to slow it down a bit sometimes. Listening to blazing notes non stop kind of gets tiring after a while. LoL!
And then he started changing his tune over the last 7-10 years. He tries to make himself feel better about himself by claiming he only listened to classical music and incorporated that into the guitar. Guys gotta get over his ego.
Bonnet actually said Yngwie was a lot like Ritchie Blackmore. He reminded him so much of Ritchie from Rainbow whom he had sang for. And Yngwie came in and played all those Rainbow songs and Deep Purple songs.
Yngwie writes checks his ego can’t cash. He disrespected EVH when he yawned after playing Eruption. Yngwie’s conscience probably caught up with him after EVH passed or he was virtual signalling to stay onside with the masses.
Eddie had a great tone and sound! I remember reading in the early 80s he stated he was looking for that 1969 to 1975 Pete Townshend tone and sound( Pete's was great) and for sure think caught it and made it Eddie's!!!
what reason would that be? He's just another speed freak that brings nothing new to the table.... the world is full of em.... Eddie literally reset the bar for metal and thrash guitar 45 years ago and nobody has reset the bar YET..... Hendrix set the bar in what 68? 11 years later, Eddie stood the planet on its frikken ear and nobody has topped that in over 45 years.... yngwie is run of the mill.
@@1956tojo Brother in rock, spend some time with Trial By Fire Live In Leningrad. Both the CD and DVD versions have a lot to offer in their own right. Even being a huge Lynch, EVH and Yngwie fan for 4 decades, took me a few very appreciative listens to pick up on the masterful melodies YM brings to the entire song, and every solo, with each twist, turn and dive. Kinda think that was his whole point all along. Like Jack White said of their first project; it was by design. If you couldn't follow them along with what they were wearing and the stage/instrument visuals, you weren't going follow along with them on the musical journey and appreciate what they were doing. The real truth is all of these players brought amazing stuff to the table and debating one over the other is like arguing with your dog what smell is the best. It's kind of idiotic and just makes you look a little daffy.
@@1956tojo I take it you don't play guitar? The answer to your question is, Yngwie said a lot of honorable things about Eddie. Which is why I left the comment that I did. Yngwie didn't degrade Eddie after Eddie passed. You see, I too believe Eddie was and is still the Best.
@@1956tojoyour definitely A jealous clown..they are totally different genres clown boy...eddie could NEVER PLAY YNGWIES MUSIC..what have YOU DONE..what discography have YOU CREATED...what worldwide fan base DO YOU HAVE clown boy...And Most Importantly...what the fuk do you have IN THE BANK CLOWN BOY HUH!!!???....
I highly doubt Eddie felt threatened from malmsteen it doesn’t make sense Eddie was considered one of the best players since the first Van Halen Halen album came out, he made way more money then malmsteen I mean Eddie paid more money in taxes then he ever made I think Eddie just didn’t like him or maybe he just didn’t have the time but probably just didn’t like him I’m sure Eddie would have found the time if he wanted to meet him.
There's an interview with Eddie on UA-cam where he claims that Randy Rhoads ripped everything off of him. I think it's just as it's described in this video. Being considered the king of guitar made Eddie a bit insecure in a way. Didn't want to be dethroned from that position. Of course, fans will argue that that's impossible but no matter how good you are at something, there's always the possibility of someone else coming along who is better. It's not about personal preference - there are plenty of great guitarists out there - just a hunch.
No Bs..a close friend I grew up with back when Steeler first came out and was new ..told me Eddy saw Malmsteen play at a gig and was seen crying and walking out..NOT kidding..This guy ALWAYS had inside info on this stuff and again was right when that album came out and NObody really knew Malmsteen..
I love EVH , but he had a HUGE ego , saying everyone was copying him , well not everyone was coping EVH , some people like yngwie was on his own level !
To me, it’s apples and oranges. I love Marty Friedman and Jason Becker. But I wouldn’t compare them to EVH neither. It’s one thing to know theory, but to perform it with such precision and speed, it’s something I could never do. Yngwie Malmsteen is his own genre as far as I’m concerned and owns it.
There is an interview with Yngwie, where he calls Steve a great player. Conversely, Steve praised Yngwie in one of his own interviews, also mentioning that he went to see Yngwie in concert. They both live in Florida, BTW.
I STILL think the STEELER solos were his best..IMO ...why? cause I can hum and remember them..freakin amazing..as Gene Simmons once said.."you don't go walking down the street humming Yngwie solos but you do VH.." Well the Steeler solos I could..
Yes but not many people know that in Steeler, on their debut record, Malmsteen played only fast solos while Ron Keel played the melodic ones. That's why those solos sound so great.
Funny, the Steeler album cover is a copy of Van Halen 1, the guitarist, singer, drum and bassist photos are in identical positions with the band logo in the middle.. 🤔
I had just started my first band when I heard Van Halen in Feb of 78. I was 15 yrs old and was fortunate to have three uncles who were all working musicians, one of whom gave me an ear piercing amp and cabinet that absolutely SCREAMED. It wasn't exactly like Eddie's moded Marshall amps but darn close. Overnight, EVERY hard rock guitar player was desperate to capture Eddie's tone.
If you have ever been to see Malmsteen play live, you would realize that he really is great. I don't listen to his albums much, but live... man, that's where he really shines.
No , Yngwie is awesome at what he does, no doubt about that. Eddie is both a savant and has musical soul combined with god like talent. No reason to rip on Yngwie. He’s the best technical player I’ve ever heard …he plays like it’s a sport instead of art. That’s his problem..
There are 3 bands that stand out and are my favorite band's. I was 5 when my Mom took me to National Record Mart to pick out my first album. I chose Black Sabbath's Paranoid. That's the first band. The 2nd was Van Halen. I was blown away by the guitar playing. I gotta say Randy Rhoads influenced me in a big way. Eddie and Randy were the 2 reasons I picked up a guitar. The 3rd is Pantera. I remember the exact place I was when I heard all 3 bands. Dimebag Darrell is my very favorite.
Eddie was usually friendly to other guitarists but he was sometimes paranoid towards other guitar greats. Early on it was usually because he didn't want to be copied; e.g. when he met Randy Rhoads, he refused to tell him how he kept his strat in tune. Avoiding Yngwie was really strange because Eddie had already made it big time by then; i.e. there was no reason for Eddie to avoid him.
Yngwie Malmsteen auditioning for Alcatrazz (1983) - super awesome guitar solo! ua-cam.com/video/uvlH9SFbGnk/v-deo.html
Good thing he did not try out for ☆ZAPPA☆
Who is yngwie???
@@jeffreyedwards767 Didnt Steve Vai get that gig ?
@@mikehand5881 That guy who wants to be Ritchie Blackmore lol
@@christineayres7199 get a guitar ,you,can go farr☆
“Its fruitless to copy a style like Eddie’s, you can only enjoy it..”
extremely profound from Yngwie there
Malmsteen: "Nobody influenced me" Blackmore: "Hellooo" 😀
Yes and Eddie was saying the same but when he was a kid he listened to a lot of guitar players like Clapton, Hendrix, Blackmore, Jimmy Page...
So when they say 'Oh I only played piano and listened to the radio', it's not true
@@karsguitarchannel6088 😀👍
Any guitarist who hasn't gotten something from Blackmore is probably lying. Yngwie is Blackmore's protege. I'm a big Malmsteen fan too.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Exactly! I love EVH. He’s my second favorite after Hendrix but he said he only listened Clapton when he was with Cream and then he didn’t listen any music. And I was like “dude… seriously? 😑”
This is the God's honest truth ..When I was 11 years old, I was in the car with the family and we were headed to the newly opened Rockaway Mall here in NJ .. I was scanning through the radio stations and paused when a DJ said "here's a brand new one from a band called Van Halen".. This was probably Feb 1978 .. On comes You Really Got Me and even my Dad - who played the guitar and was into guys like Tal Farlow, Kenny Burrell and Chet Atkins - was looking down at the radio with a "holy shit" expression on his face ... When we got to the mall, the priority became to find the album from this Van Halen band ..... I had an 8 track at home, so we bought the 8 track tape .. After arriving home, I headed straight for my room and popped in the tape .. Before the 2nd song ended, I sensed something wrong - I thought there was an issue with the 8 track, perhaps the tape was somehow speeding up or the tape itself was spilling off the spools inside the player .. Fearing that this tape would clog up my prized 8 track player, I fumbled to eject it and take it out ... Even though the Van Halen 8 track appeared to be fine, I took it into the family room where my Dad was and told him that something was wrong with the tape, and I was afraid it would jam and clog the player ... My Dad was great, he's like "ok, let's take it back and buy the LP" .. When we got back home, my Dad's curiosity was piqued , so we headed to the family room and he put the album on the turntable of the enormous console stereo .. The 2nd song comes around, and BOOM, same unearthly sound - like nothing we've ever heard .... There was nothing wrong with the tape, nothing wrong with the record - it was simply my first time hearing Eruption .....
Hilarious!! I'm so there with this! lol
Awesome!
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That's awesome!!! 😂😂😂
"Dream" amazed me. Maybe it was because I was in the Navy and on a bus from Coronado Island going over to Downtown San Diego. I had my headphones on with that 5150 cassette in. Magical feeling!!
Eddie Van Halen was a mind bending guitarist, composer, hit maker. A truly great musician. Rest in peace Eddie.
Maybe Eddie just didn't want to meet him
That's what I assumed too. Eddie was introverted (and also shy) and I remember some interviews with VH where he wasn't there and there was a note somewhere from the interviewer that he didn't feel up to talking.
Even before he got sober, Eddie seemed to get worn out around a bunch of people, but if he decided he didn't want to do something then he wouldn't do it too.
Maybe he kept trying to catch him on a bad day, maybe Eddie just didn't want to meet him.
Exactly what I've thought since I read this in a Guitar mag interview back when. Just sounds like inflated ego from Malmsteen.
EVH is a notorious introvert but even he wanted to meet Les Paul, and I think he jammed with the late Leslie West too
@@artmv1149 exactly if he thought he was important or interesting he would have met him
I'm nobody but I met ym in 2004 and he was rude and a real prick. Just sayin
Love the respect he has for Eddie.
Eddie was Eddie ! He gave so many so fkg much
R.I.P. EvH
Yngwie will tell you he's a great guitarist....Eddie just was a great guitarist
Yngwie is a great guitarist but I never got into his music. I couldn't name one tune.
Ynwie doesn't have to say shit, he IS a great guitarist.
@@carloscortez-hv2ohHe WILL tell you that though. That's the point of the original comment lol
Okay then id love for you to pull up a video of him saying "I'm a great guitarist"
Agreed. When I heard the first two V.H. albums, it changed the way I approached rock.
Thank You Ed and Al...
You must be the GOOD Steven Wilson 😂
Van Halen II is surprisingly incredible. Truly great album.
Yes. Realy ultra good ♥️
Fair Warning is awesome too.
Diver Down has some greatness
Surprisingly? Try other words
I think for guitar solo's it was Eddie's best album overall. I know I'm the one from the first album is probably his best solo after eruption but VH II had a killer solo in every song except dance the night away.
I heard that Yngwie played Van Halen's Eruption note for note like it sounds on the record at one of his live shows in the mid 80s
I saw him back then. It was just the fast alternate picking section that sounds kind of classical. But Yngwie was playing it with his teeth!
I've seen 16 year old kids (and younger) who can play that same solo note for note.
@@bripslag Hell, I can play Eruption pretty damn close. At least well enough to convince most folks, lol! But most of Yngwie's stuff still escapes me. Interesting side note. When most people find out I play guitar, they ask if I can play Eruption. After all these years it's still sort of the litmus test for guitar players. Nobody's ever asked if I can play Far Beyond the Sun.
@@shakebabyhitler I can pretty much play Eruption as well. But what a lot of people don't get is that playing it and WRITING it are two different things. Especially in 1978. Nobody even knew what is was when it came out!
@@butcho7492 Testify! I had been playing (mostly Kiss tunes) for about a year when VH1 came out. We had no idea what Eddie was doing. And you're absolutely right, playing it is sort of impressive, while writing it at 24yrs old in '78 is crazy cool. That said, I think Yngwie was only about 20 when he wrote Far Beyond the Sun. Also an impressive feat.
it’s funny, when my dad heard the first Van Halen record in 1978, he stopped taking guitar lessons cause “who could compete with that!”, and about 30 years later (2008) when I first heard eruption I was inspired to learn guitar and practice to this day
I met Yngwie in Gainesville Florida in 1993ish and he was really cool. He signed some stuff, talked, looked me in the eyes, gave me a signed photo with the whole band from inside the bus and introduced me to them.
Edward broke the rules unexpectedly in real time musically
I always felt Yngwie was full of himself and looked it while playing while Eddie was so naturally good he just looked to be enjoying it all and not showing off. It took me 20+ years to listen to a whole album by Yngwie (Rising Force). I knew he was amazing, but had to separate my earlier experiences with his playing to appreciate him.
Eh? Evh was always much more showoffy and into stunt style guitar than yngwie. It seems like on the 2005 internet someone announced yngwie was "too full of himself" and its just been repeated since then by people fishing for approval. It doesn't make any sense. If anything he seems way more jokey and laid back than more rockstars.
My theory: american guitarists get stuck at blues scales because of how guitar was taught here for 2 generations, and they hate anyone who doesnt get stuck there with them.
your theory is wrong.People have always said that about him and people only need to read old interviews or old clips (or even what ex-band members or techs has to say about him) to see that this is true. There is a reason he was being laughed at in Sweden.
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I saw Yngwie twice, the first time in the 80s with Turner on vocals, and both shows were completely amazing.
I don't know if I have ever seen an interview by Yngwie and thought he was full of himself, but I have seen some older interviews of Eddie and thought that, both guys seemed more down to earth as they got older.
@@WaltPowellEnt Yngwie was drunk and crashed his car and almost died when he was young, I bet that changed his whole outlook on life.
It is a shame, that genious guitarists nowadays do not realize that everyone of them is a unique master!
the best ones are great rhythm players too and great producers ie page and van halen and hendrix
Yngwie had heard Eddie as a teenager and loved his earlier playing. So he went through a Van Halen phase just as many of us did with Eddies playing. But Yngwie took the tapping to another level on Steelers' Hot on your Heel's solo where he included some tapping towards the end of it. "Aint talkin about love" is a great song too...I thinkl that is why Yngwie has always been about trying to get it perfect on the first take and using no overdubs with solos.
Songs are what matters. Eddie wrote timeless songs. Nobody walks around humming a Yngwie tune or at least not very many people.
"Nobody walks around humming a Yngwie tune or at least not very many people.' I did and many around me in the 80s and early 90s. I still sing his solos with silly tongue and lip contortions LOL. Check his work with Derek Sherinian. Viking Massacre and The Monsoon are amazing songs!
@@timurhant469 literally the 1 nerd who knows a Malmsteen tune. Van Halen blows him away.
@@-chrisburke might be 😂😂😂
@@-chrisburke Yeah, a guy who sold millions of albums and owns Ferraris and his own house probably only has a handful of fans...
Eddie plays popular and Yngwie classical, maybe thats why the difference, they have their own public.
Eddie didn't just play the scales like most guitarist alot of that was his hands going were they knew to go from the soul that's why nobody really can play like him
Listening to Yngwie, I think he gives an honest and respectful overview. Yngwie was like Eddie, in that he was fast, articulate, dynamic. Early on he had a lot of Eddie in his style, but then, he was a kid! Since the early 80s, he evolved in a very unique way, inventing the Neo-Classical genre really. Basically, taking the intensity of Van Halen, with the phrasing of Uli, Blackmore, etc. Like everyone in the small category of Best Guitarists, he learned from what came before, then blended it into his own style.
Except that Eddie's solos were way more melodic and memorable.
James Martin Gurley from Janis Joplin, Ritchie Blackmore, Uli Jon Roth, were the guitarists who laid down the Neo Classical Rock guitar genre. Yngwie took it to a new intensity, approach. Saw his very first gig at a club called Wolfgangs in San Francisco. Rhythm section Anvil Chorus had backed him up. Also few other gigs with his own band, during early to mid '80s. His 1985 tour was the most memorable.
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@@hinjurock70 Really? C'mon...Melodic in what sense? Gary Moore and SRV are light years ahead of melodic playing compared to EVH. Eddie was great at what he did but...
@@fenderboy68
You can't compare EVH to a limited player like SRV - he only played blues rock with a little funk thrown in. No way in hell could he play solos as skillful as Eddie. Gary Moore was great, but Eddie's riffs and solos were more original and more memorable.
@@hinjurock70 Forget it. Once I hat a debate with a guy that knew that Angus Young is a way better player than Yngwie.
Shure, Moore and SRV were super good players, but they did not trasnscend the way of guitar playing.
Eddy and Yngwie are such players.
There are more of them: George Lynch, Randy Rhoads, Steve Vai, Uli John Roth, Alan Holdsworth, Al Di Meola, Shawn Lane, Jason Becker.
We have to accept that this type of player is not first choice for everybody.
Michael Schenker: "I love Eddie's playing, you know, he's for me, by far the best guitar player. And even though I wasn't listening to music, you could never get away [from] hearing [it] anywhere... And so really, he was fascinating. I mean, he's my favorite guitar player."
I love Eddie and Yngwie. I can only listen to Yngwie for so long though. Van Halen I can listen to all day.
Unless youre a Tweeker. ...
I can't find any videos or recordings of Eddie Van Halen ever meeting Stevie Ray Vaughan either. Was Eddie possibly avoiding SRV too?
I'm pretty sure they did meet though? It wasn't publicized but I thought I heard Steve talk about meeting him?
Like with Nuno Bettencourt, when Eddie died he said they had met and hung out countless times but he has only like one picture of them together cause he was usually in the moment of it.
Eddie was introverted and had social anxiety, and as his addiction got worse, he wasn't in a position to see anyone. But even when he got sober he became semi-recluisive. In general it wasn't til Eddie passed that I started seeing photos of people he hanged out with or knew, he just didn't like to do stuff in the public eye, or for publicity.
If he thought someone only wanted to meet him to have it publicized, yeah, I wouldn't want to do it either. Eddie was low-key, especially after he got sober
Eddie is one of those few players who are just so comfortable and in complete control of their guitar
it really does just look like an appendage to his body like an arm or leg.
Every move it makes is natural and a fluid part of who he is.
SRV looks like that to me as well.
Some great players make it look like a separate tool from them that they are operating to its highest potential .
It just looks different to me as soon as the strap goes on, and they grab the neck and body
and do a little shoulder roll strap sea saw to seat it in.
It becomes a tool or a body part to my eyes.
Its called practice. The type of practice that people like you would never understand or have the discipline to do. You couldn't imagine practicing a 6 note lick at 40bpm, day and night for 4 straight years until its pure perfection and you can pull it off without warming up at will, and even do it on an acoustic guitar just as dynamic as an amplified guitar, so you believe goofy theories like what you just wrote. Or might even believe asinine stuff such as, "he was born with something extra". Its just practice buddy. Trust me.
@@equalleftrights3130
Hey cynicaldickhead!
Do you always begin conversations with strangers by assuming their position on something without any evidence supporting your assumptions?
Of do you pride yourself in spawning
out-of-con-TEXT's (pretty good huh?)
claims in hopes you hooked a fool, who wouldn't see the insecure child behind the mask between your 4th & 21st word?
Lucky for you; I'm one who will shame your trespasses, then forgive and forget, and not another curse will be spoken to you from me, now.
I may not have been clear in my previous reply, as I have had
"the gifted vs. the passionate" debate a few times myself, and as you do, I understand this truth.
I also believe that with like Eddie or SRV as my example of the guitar being
"an extension of their body" ? ? ?
(am I correct in putting my own quotes in quotations?)
Anyway, I believe this may have to do with starting so young that your body and mind are still in development, therefore when every free moment you have is running round your fret board, this becomes part of your original development like walking, talking and masturbation.
Just a natural thing to do.
But it would be interesting to know, and then try to comprehend the actual amount of hours = days = years these examples, and others actually had in playing times along with noodling around time.
A playing thru vs. noodling vs. intentional practice, scales etc.
I'm 55 years old, and started playing when I was 13/14?
Alex Lifeson's sound on the RUSH 2112 album on the side with overture has some of the most eargasmic licks (Imo) that still hold top honor for me to this day.
I'm a hard & heavy sound fan, so That 2112 album was out in the too far prog realm in appearance, but it changed me, as back then it cost some money to be able to listen to what you wanted to right then, so after school for months I would throw the headphones on and do the entire album daily, and usually fall asleep with them on.
Black Sabbath and
Mr. Iommi, aka (Riff lord) inventor of
Heavy Metal
Was the final sound that attached itself to my beings groove bones, so along the way the few songs that I wrote we assumable to have noticeable influence.
2 Were truly fuckn good to great songs, and still haven't played them with a good or correct type singer.
High on the Hog & 16 minutes away.
They exist nowhere but in my mind, and (no kidding) on a cassette tape of my drummers wife's friend i was hooking up with off and on.
For whatever reasons we quit playing around my mid 20's?
Wife and kid.
Didn't pick it up again for probably 10 years? and not even long enough to get as loose as I once was.
Just picked it up again by blessings of covd boredom, and thanks to the internet I have picked a few new ones completely, and who knows how many pieces of hot spots in songs.
NOW A CONFESSION.
(partially)
I Do understand the discipline it takes to just run scales of finger techniques just because you should, I have bacic understanding in music theory, and you were correct...
I did lack the discipline to practice any further than playing with the band or learning a new song.
I can, or could play any riff at any speed with any alternating pick directions timing etc. I Could just hear it, feel it, do it.
I just never took the time to get into leads, and I have always regretted it.
High on the Hog has the most difficult ones I play, but a buddy from a different band helped me to get what I heard to strings, and their is some of him that sounded better and stayed.
My Riff my lyrics, and my lazy ass was good enough for the other stuff, so I never found that transfer in the pocket do do anything other than sound the same running in order.
I know when it's right, I just cannot develop my own, and my lead player was fine for all the know songs, so I didn't bother.
Now I hope that didn't bore you too much, with the story of my disappointment in myself. Their were absolute great times as well
I am one of the very few who still has his first ax.
It gets worse....
I really like the cheap old
Chinese super-strat.
A kamen GTX-33 with dual humbucks, and a floating Floyd, with the neck lock and quick tunes, that somehow seems to hold tune as well as any other more expensive ones i've had.
Maybe because its impossible for me to ever play another guitar for that many hours as I have that one, but I fall in love with something new from time to time, and it's action is so much better, flawlessly smooth neck/fret feeling.
Buy whenever I grab that old cheap whore,
and get them cheap pods where they bite sustain; we fuck hard bro, it's just i know where ol girls g-spot is.
It was in a shed for 10 years in the middle of the US.
100 plus in the summer with high humidity and a few days of sub-zero temps
LEANNING against the corner.
Headstock cracked, and I repaired.
I just love the dirty whore.
You don't still have yours do you?
If you do your young
If both those statements are incorrect
It's a very rare club. Welcome
Kar , love your channel. All you know and the way you tell it is about the great music. I envy your experience and talent. Thanks so much. All my best ! 💥💯🇺🇸🎸
Both guitarists are awesome both are difficult to deal with and full of themselves
Both brilliant and unique players. Two of the most influential ever.
Agreed
Sorry, malmsteen is a phenomenal guitar player but his influence is pretty minor in comparison to Eddie's, or any other big name mainstream lead guitarist. Kirk Hammett is more influential than yngwie, just not as talented.
@@crankfastle8138 Agreed, I also Malmsteen's playing is a bit much. I know many love that style but for me it's a little to much. I have great respect for his playing just the same.
@@crankfastle8138Rhoads was just as talented and influential as EVH. Only 2 albums to prove it. If Randy would have lived longer, his influence would have been even more revelant. He certainly had more skill than Kirk Hammett. He was a cross between Eddie and Yngwie. It's a real shame we didn't get more music from him.
@@crankfastle8138Yngwie is far more influential than Eddie. Literally most modern metal guitarists try to copy his Phrygian Dominant/Hatmonic Minor shred style. Eddie wrote more mainstream melodies that everyone knows, but that doesn't mean he's more influential, but more mainstream.
There's nothing to copy from Eddie, he just writes great melodies but no style differentiates him from other guitarists.
You can literally hear any modern metal song nowadays and be like "oh that sounds like Yngwie".
Yngwie redeemed himself to me, recognizing Van Halen's importance to the evolution of guitar playing was righteous - after Van Halen, Yngwie was the next guitar player that blew my brains out with his playing in Alcatrazzz.............!
Myself......
Yngwie and Edward = 2 Guitar GODS 🤘🤘
two absolute gods who revolutionized guitar. yeah, eddie got more of the spotlight but yngwie is phenomenal in his own right.
@@mariek6993 ABSOLUTELY 🤟🏻🤟🏻
Well , another very interesting story and i learned a lot again , your documented work is awsome Karren !! Rock on mate !!!!
Yngwie has always been very gracious and respectful of EVH.
I can understand EVH maybe not wanting to meet him. We’re all human beings, and as such are flawed. Eddie might have been a little intimidated by his playing, and to be honest, who wouldn’t?
Eddie also might have heard certain things about Yngwie’s personality in certain circles that caused him to avoid meeting him.
In other words, there could have been a myriad of reasons.
One thing that is undeniable is that they were both born with a great gifting, and both earned their places very high up in the history of guitar playing.
Best comment here in my opinion👏👏👏👏
@@nicholasdorazio10 …thanks!
I always try to think rationally before I comment on such matters.
I understand that everyone tends to have their favorite, and as such can let emotions or rumor form their opinion of someone else.
For me, there is no “greatest” at any instrument, since all musicians have different styles, techniques, feel, and strengths and weaknesses.
What?! Were you not around in the 80s? I remember reading a few interviews where the Ego made less than flattering appraisals of Ed
Kind of hard to compare the two other than they are/were both amazing virtuosos. Eddie was an absolute master of all things Pentatonic, while Yngwie is heavy in to modes, diminished runs, extended arpeggios and all other things neo-classical. Though both are lightening fast, they have two totally different guitar philosophies. Also, Eddie co-fronted one of the most iconic modern rock bands, while Yngwie is mostly a solo act. Both are/were world class musicians who have contributed greatly to the art.
Eddie is better. Very simple.
@@godloveszaza That's an opinion you are certainly entitled too but it should be noted that pentatonic scales are much easier to use than modes.
I enjoy both of their styles as well as many other guitarists out there, and I don't make a habit of comparisons for who is best. I just enjoy and appreciate their music.
This whole my dog's better than your dog is really kind of pointless.
Eddie was a classically trained pianist in his youth and won quite a few contests as a child. While Ed downplays he's never taken guitar lessons he certainly was a very gifted pianist at a very young age. To put him in the pentatonic box is to not entirely fair to his catalogue or understand music theory.
Look at the part on Eruption with staccato neo-classicism , were he basically plays the classical piece from Etude #2 violin by Rodolphe Kreutzer . Certainly remembered from his youth as a classically trained pianist. If you listen closely to many of Ed's songs you can hear these little classical snippets thrown in quite a lot in his playing.
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Then you look at Cathedral which basically sounds like a classical violin with classically inflected arpeggios. When this album first was released , many musicians did not even know this was played on a guitar.
Cathedral
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Then you have the flamenco and classical both influences on Spanish Fly and Little Guitars with Ed's own interpretation of the flamenco style.
Spanish Fly
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Little Guitars
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Then you have the intro to Mean Street with it's almost funk-like bass tapping. Basically he's slapping the guitar like a bass but added harmonics for the melody. Truly groundbreaking for the time and still hard to master today.
Mean Street
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Also look at the harmonics on the intro to Women In Love. With tapped harmonics and the use of delay to add that ethereal like effect.
Women In Love
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There's even a slide guitar on the song Dirty Movies. You can hear it in the background on the intro to this song. He played slide on and old Gibson SG.
Dirty Movies
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All this and I haven't really even scratched the surface of Ed's influence on guitar players or even gotten into his rhythm parts , a whole other level. I think his rhythm stuff even eclipses his solo work.
You really can't put him a category. Did he play pentatonics , yes but he was so so much more. In fact I read so many articles from musicians trying to put him in a defined category as far as scales go , you really can't he changed how we all looked at guitar playing and still do to this day.
While I love Yngwie too his playing influenced me immensely he basically uses the harmonic minor scale or its fifth mode, the Phrygian Dominant. This can be heard in almost all of his songs.
He's awesome and I pretty much non stop listened to him through much of his early career. But Yngwie as far a innovation was kind of a two trick pony awesome as he is.
People forget he damaged his hand and was in a coma , he recovered but I don't think he ever really got back 100% to his days when he played really really tight. Listen to some of those early alcatrazz solos and he's just so crisp and tight.
@@TheAgentAssassin Picking out snipets of non pentatonics in a mostly pentatonic repertoire is not a great argument. Young pianist aside, 90+% of what Eddie was doing was Pentatonics. Stunningly executed Pentatonics but pentatonics nonetheless. And also, being a pianist at a young age and knowing music theory means little when you play mostly pentatonics.
Even with ear training, Eddies sound is very obviously pentatonic dominant.
And yes, Yngwei's sound has a lot of Phrygian but also quite a bit of most of the other major modes as well, not to mention liberal use of arpeggios and diminished runs.
As I said in my previous reply, I'm not saying anyone is better than anyone else, you are.
And as I also said before if you want to be a fan boi, be my guest but let me state my opinion without having to defend it every time I post something. After all it is just an opinion.
The biggest difference is Eddie knew how to write a song.
Jimi, Eddie, Yngwie. Game changers.
Rick Beato just interviewed Yngwie. He said that Van Halen is what convinced him to record live. So. There you go. He really appreciated EVH
Ed never ran from anything in his life, They said the same about Randy and Ed and it was all by bozos trying to get drama started, Ed had a family, Band issues, His own studio to run, Starting his own business and had shit to do, I don't think anything was as Personal as some would tell it to be...Could it be that Ed never met because he knew someone had something they were trying to Prove that he wanted no part of? I say the whole avoiding me thing is an Ego Trip gone horribly wrong...
Yes I think if Yngwie really wanted to meet Eddie, he had to go and meet him not asking someone to relay a message. On the other hand, Eddie knew that everyone was calling Yngwie the new guitar hero and everybody wanted to play like Yngwie so it's probably true that Eddie didn't want to meet Yngwie.
i truly think he didnt want to meet yngwie. u should hear the interview he had when randy died. the whole time hes just talking about how randy did nothing he didnt do and that randy just took all of his tricks. came off as very jealous
@@karsguitarchannel6088 There's stories of him meeting other monumental guitar heros coming up around the same time who Ed did meet and got along with at the time though. That's what makes me think he wasn't really avoiding him, because he would have avoided Nuno too, or anyone else who was up and coming, I think if he really wanted to meet Eddie he could have. Cause it wasn't like he was the only up and coming contender for the next guitar god back then
Yngwie wasn't saying all this initially. When he first arrived in the states, and started making waves, he was very arrogant.....especially about competing with Eddie. He took a lot of flak for thinking he was "gods gift". In later interviews....he started giving credit to Eddie because he started realizing, or someone told him, how badly he was coming across to the US fan base. He finally realized that there was plenty of room in the US market for more than one guitar hero.
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Both Yngwie and Eddie were raging alcoholics in the 80's. It's hard to set your ego aside when you are hammered all the time. They probably both threatened each other's ego back then.
It was 1983, and I was in LA going to GIT in Hollywood and Eddie was on everybody’s mind…. when we all heard about this guitar wizard kid just landed and was playing at the Troubadour! Went and saw YNGWIE! Blew us away! It was a GREAT TIME! Randy Rhodes was also alive and well! It was a great year and amazing era!
i heard of this malmstein... but never heard a single one of his songs on the radio... so that pretty much sums it up for me
Eddie’s writing, creativity, musical genius, and instincts are matched by NO other.
False statement
@@jb-yi4diI wonder what you could do with a guitar 💀
@@evil6564 There are many guitarists who have high abilities in writing and creativity, and that's what makes people individuals. When you get to the level that these players occupy, it's not about who's better than who, but about enjoying all the different flavors, because it's all good. Any mature musician knows that.
@@jb-yi4di I disagree. Musicians of a certain caliber will agree there's one guitarist whose creativity and abilities transcend beyond the guitar. It's eddie. People who dedicate their life to music, without even touching a string instrument, tend to have a profound respect for eddie. You won't hear many pianists at berkeley trying to play yngwie on a piano.
@@jb-yi4di And my original point still stands. If you think you have ground to stand on saying it's a false statement that eddie is unmatched... I just wonder what you yourself could do with a guitar.
What I love about Edward Van Halen is that you can find something that's so uniquely HIM in everything he wrote that made him instantly recognizable. He even left his mark all over the remakes. While there are a lot of shredders and extremely technical players, I'm bored after 2 minutes with 90% of them because it just sounds like practice drills, and playing fast just for the sake of playing fast.🥱
I agree. EVH was a song guy. He wasn't just about mindless shredding. He played some really cool lines that actually added something to the songs and it never sounded clinical.
Yngwie's 1984 show with Alcatrazz (Live Sentence) is probably the most impressive live performance I have ever seen. Scattered UA-cam clips are still available. Love Randy and Edward to the end though.
okay this is the second of your videos I ve seen and I am subscribing now... thank you for the hard work man. i appreciate it
Great Rock History !! Have Rocking Great Day Kar ..
Big thanks Scott, I appreciate! Even Yngwie was influenced by Eddie Van Halen in the 80s. I did this video to show that.
Eddie Van Halen was one of the greatest !
They should have done something when he died!
EVH has has his own guitars & amps branded after his namesake! EVH also kept pushing the boundaries & parameters way beyond guitar shredder virtuosity! Also, he has another musical heir to his throne - KEEP ROCKING ON THE VH NAME Wolfgang Van Halen! 🤘🏾😎🎸
PS: But I'll still give Yngwie Malmsteen's 'Rising Force' its due respect too!
That's what Ingwie says now that he's mature and when Eddie has passed away but in the mid-80s, at a concert Ingwie put up a banner that said Eddie is dead
Yngwie also was influenced by the great Uli Jon Roth also Pioneering the Neo- classical Metal also along with Ritchie Blackmore
Had the opportunity few years back after a Winger show to ask John Roth when he dropped the Uli. He laughed his azz off. Made his day. ;)
I think Every guitarist was blown away by Eddie and Yngwie and I'm sure Eddie was equally as blown away by Yngwie truth be told
Yngwie's rise in popularity and being referred to as the fastest-playing guitarist around is what caused Eddie to shift his focus onto the keyboards. In 1984, Eddie was successful with softer more pop songs (heavier in synth) and was now referred to as an excellent musician not just a guitarist. So in a sense Yngwie inspired Eddie too.
Everyone was blown away when first hearing Van Halen.
Eddie was simply the best. His playing made musical sense. Most modern players just make overdriven distorted noise.
Eddie relied too much on the two handed gimmick. It's not difficult to do, but sounds good, so people get fooled by it. he was flash over musicality. He was a very good player, but not the greatest.
@@gianthillsYou're the one who is fooled. You're overlooking everything that made him great. Tapping is far from the most impressive or influential things he did. But it's the fast sounding stuff that's recognizable to casuals who don't know much, and it's all they credit him for. You're showing your lack of knowledge or skill, and it's embarrassing.
@@evil6564 Been a musician 30 years, so you're wrong. The only reason you think Van Halen was so great is only because the band got big. There were thousands of players do the same thing at the time, who didn't luck out with a band that made it big. Most of his solos are senseless flash with scarcely any sense of musicality.
@@gianthills You're still showing your lack of skill and knowledge. And it's still embarrassing.
I think EVH was just too preoccupied to meet up with Yngwie whenever they were in the same town. He didn't hide from Allan Holdsworth or Michael Angelo Batio.
Yes I agree but on the other hand Eddie knew that everyone was calling Yngwie the new guitar hero and wanted to play like Yngwie. That's what George Lynch said as well.
I had the Steeler record, and Yngwie Malmsteen Rising Force records, seen Rising Force December 1985, opening for Dio. 🤘
On the Steeler record, Malmsteen plays fast harmoic minor solos and Ron Keel plays the melodic solos.
Yngwie can only dream about being revered, loved and respected like Eddie is, and will always be. Just facts!! Not to mention he completely changed electric Rock guitar and how it's played!! I do give Mr Arrogant his due, as he is very talented. I give him that.
Eddie didn't 'write music' he 'played music'. Eddie didn't read notes to play, I'm sure he could, but he didn't. He was an improv jazz player at heart, like me.
Yngwie writes music, reads notes and plays very many classical pieces. Stuff Eddie (and myself) find exponentially boring. Different kinds of musicians, and personally, I like doing it Eddie's way; that's just me.
And EVH had tone, instead of the muddy neck position sounding single coil
You can still write music without writing it down on paper - if you come up with riffs and songs and record them, that's also writing music.
@@hinjurock70 Which is what EVH did, whereas, Yngwie wrote in music language, could look at any piece of paper and play it upon first seeing it; That kind of musician, see what I mean?
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Are you sure that Yngwie could read and write notation? He can play a lot of classical licks, but I never read or heard that he was formally trained in music.
@@hinjurock70 How do you think you learn classical? I can read a little, but to musicians better than me, reading music and playing it the first time you read it is standard.
Eddie made songs everyone liked, be they musicians or tone deaf. Only musicians know who yngwie is,and he mainly played a classical style which isn't nearly as innovative as all the styles (and tones) Edward has. Edward could put the highest skill level lick in a song and still make it groovy. I wish I had the smallest percentage of either players talent / skill though 😹
I'm not a guitarist. I have enjoyed VH since day 1. I discovered Yngvie much later with "trilogy". So very different. I never called it better, just different. Neo-gothic shredding and totally epic.
Can you do a video on Vito Bratta of White Lion? He was such a phenomenal player.
I saw him at the grocery store in the late 80's here in the Hollywood area. He is taller than me.
I used to see him play at L'Amours in Bklyn all the time
I always liked Vito because he openly gave EVH a lot of credit for how he developed his playing style --- other rock guitarists in the 80's would try to act coy and pretend that Eddie wasn't an influence and they seemed petty and jealous --- and the solo for "Little Fighter" is so memorable
Vito is a monster player
Vito is refined EVH and Randy Rhoads, vito is a song writer his choice of notes and phrasing is true story telling, as a fan i didnt lose hope to see him get back in the scene
EVH had something Yngwie never will have and that is tone!!! Yngwie and a lot of the speedster players have that muddy neck single coil tone...But if that's your thing, go for it....
I'd add TASTE!
Eddie is the greatest of all time PERIOD
Never been a Ygnwie fan myself although I appreciate his prowess.
he aint hiding from u he was to busy doing his own music
Great video however your opening statement is incorrect. Yngwie has publicly admitted on many occasions he was influenced by Jimi Hendrix and Ritchie Blackmore
Sorry but I have to disagree. Yngwie always tells the story how he saw Jimi Hendrix on Swedish TV and they showed Jimi burning his guitar and it just inspired Yngwie to become a guitar player and that's it. Yngwie also says that he wasn't influenced by any guitar player but he was influenced by Bach. I think what he means is that he developed his own style and he uses a lot of phrases from classical violin music. But of course he also uses blues scale and lots of blues rock licks and that's what Hendrix and Blackmore played before him. Thank you Chris for watching the video, much appreciated! Have an awesome rocking day!
This was very informative. Thank you✌🏼️
It was with Alcatraz that I first saw Yngwie. I hated him! LOL It was on his 21st birthday. The reason I hated it was because I did not know a single song and they were opening up for Ted Nugent. After Rising Force came out I could hear and groove on his stuff. He was a total gamechanger. I friggin played that tape out until it probably melted. I must have seen Yngwie 12-13 times, and he was always on his game. I sterted to get tired of him after about his 4th album. He just kept on the same path with Harmonic Minor and Phrygian shit, and Arpeggio`s all over the place. So I got bored. What he saya about EVH not being around to meet him I believe 100% Ed is my favorite player ever. He is the GOAT. But he does some, or did some shady shit. After RR died Ed told Guitar World, or another mag, that RR learned everything from him. NOT COOL Ed. Ed never gave many other guys much credit. He was an insecure guy. That is why he was such a boozer. EVH is the MAN, but he sure could be a dick sometimes. Yngwie kinda does the same shit though. No matter, he was such a jolt of new energy, he opened doors!
Randy, in an interview published around early 1982 or late 1981 lamented that he was still playing a lot of EVH's licks. Back then people thought RR was a big EVH clone because they were the only guys on the radio both doing the hot-rodded lead guitar style with the tapping. EVH could have said some nicer things about Randy, but EVH was there first with that style, so he may have been ticked off that parts of his style were getting lifted.
I remember in an interview from back in the 80s of Yngwie saying that he sent invites to Eddie to come over and jam and they were just ignored. On the Eddie vs Randy thing. I think in the early club days Eddie was better than Randy during the Quiet riot days but by the time Randy joined Ozzy not only had Randy caught up with Eddie but Randy was heavier and a better composer playing real heavy metal. Outside of a few tracks Eddie pretty much was party pop rock and I would even say by the time of Van Hagar Eddie's best work was behind him the fire had went out.
@@flazjsg Yep. Remember, Ed would turn his back to the crowd when he tapped, cuz Al told him that people would copy his shit. So up until the first album dropped he never let you see him tap. EVH is the dude I loved, and his rhythm playing and songwriting is his best stuff. He could wail and tap, use the trel bar for little nuances and not just bomb it to flub strings. He was very aware of his competition. Here is where it gets easy for me flazjsg, I can play (with ease) every song RR ever did, solo as well. I cannot do Ed the same way. He is just too hard to get down. We all try to play VH stuff but we will never sound close to him. His pick attack, his bar work, his rhythm playing needs his own hands. We sound the way we do as guitarists because of our hands. But to try to even hit the right notes is so very hard, if you are honest with yourself. RR is so very easy to play note for note. That closes my argument on the thing. RR was super good and wrote great riffs, but also I need to talk about his tone. It sucks. He sounds like he is playing a Pignose amp with an MXR distortion pedal and some flange. It sounds brittle as hell. Ed sounds BIG and clean with good tube overdrive and a lil echoplex and MXR phase 90. Okay , I will shut up now heheee!
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Agree that Eddie is really hard to copy versus other hard rock, metal players. He had a real unique and grooving sense of time - some of those Eddie licks are just funky and hard to really cop. Maybe other guitarists are faster or more articulate, especially these days, but they seem easier to copy. It’s just fast, not with a strange time feel.
Other guys sounded like they practiced a whole lot and are accomplished - but Eddie got the JUICE baby
@@krushgroov1 Well said man!!
Saw Eddie in the 1980’s loved Van Halen albums. Yngwie is super fast…a shredder but so what there’s many of those style guitarists out there. What they don’t seem to have is the cool sound, the phrasing. To be honest Eddie did have that unique sound. The tapping, well there’s lots who did it before Eddie, Ace Frehley for one. I’d take a brilliant guitarist like Rory Gallagher, just listen to some of the sounds he gets out of his Fender…and when playing the blues..wow what an authentic sound..wayyy back to old Mississippi..😂😂😂😂 those notes make the hairs on my arm stand up, unlike Yngwie same as Blackmore or Page a lot of their stuff is ok but nothing that moves me. Now listen to Rory Gallagher, Jimmy Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan , Eddie Van Halen, Jonnie Winter and Gary Moore then you got me glued to the spot.
There was a time I thought Yngwie was a top 3 and then 5 minutes later I knew better. It’s just the same stuff over and over, a scale exercise. He’s a great player and probably even more technically proficient than anyone, but it’s like a smart nerd that has no common sense. Eddie has it all. And he’s forever the best of my generation.
Trust me the word had already gotten out to Ed that Yngwie was a arrogant clown, so it doesn’t surprise me that he avoided him at all cost. Even when Malmsteen is trying to be humble he’s still full of himself.
Eddie was of course great and I generally prefer EVH to Yngwie. That being said I do have some of Yngwie CDs and I give him a lot of credit for creating his own style and not just being another carbon copy player. EVH may have popularized tapping and a myriad of other guitar tricks, but Yngwie was really the one to popularize sweep picking.
Unfortunately. I personally can't stand sweep picking except in minimal doses.
@@hinjurock70 Like or dislike who you want. I like Piggy but I know a couple of people that hate his playing. My only point was that it's hard to accuse Yngwie of being a clone. He was pretty unique when he entered the scene, and while people did sweep picking before him, he was the guy who started the craze.
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True.
Eddie Van Halen said in an interview that he hated talking to people because he'd rather be playing music. He told the interviewer (Kurt Loder) that he even hated doing that interview! To each his own. I don't think he disliked Yngwie or anything like that.
Hi Kar, hope you're well dude. Great video as ever.....
Eddy was the complete musician. Song writer. Rhythm player. Classic guitar solos.
Yngwie is good at what he does. If I was stranded on an island and had choose one to listen to, it would be Eddy.
I don't like Yngwie..But i worked on both guitarist..Honestly Yngwie is much better guitarist than Eddie..Eddie is became a legend..so it s doesn't touch
@@ericgisclon8122 technically yes Yngwie is better. I think he just needed to slow it down a bit sometimes. Listening to blazing notes non stop kind of gets tiring after a while. LoL!
I have a feeling so would Yngwie 😆
I'm a Eddie fan but not his solo's; which solo's do you think are classic?
@@garricksands844 Right Now has a great, radio friendly solo.
He said in multiple interviews that he was influenced by Ritchie Blackmore.
And then he started changing his tune over the last 7-10 years. He tries to make himself feel better about himself by claiming he only listened to classical music and incorporated that into the guitar. Guys gotta get over his ego.
He was also clearly influenced by Uli Roth.
Bonnet actually said Yngwie was a lot like Ritchie Blackmore. He reminded him so much of Ritchie from Rainbow whom he had sang for. And Yngwie came in and played all those Rainbow songs and Deep Purple songs.
Where did you get that footage of Malmsteen playing his version of "Eruption" where he starts finger tapping? I cant find it anywhere
EVH was also influenced by Blackmore,and Michael Schenker
Akira Takasaki who is a phenomenal guitarist and song writer in his own right was influenced by Blackmore.
@@PaulC39 I have listen to Loudness, they have a speed metal thing going on a recent release .
Yngwie writes checks his ego can’t cash. He disrespected EVH when he yawned after playing Eruption. Yngwie’s conscience probably caught up with him after EVH passed or he was virtual signalling to stay onside with the masses.
Respect to both giants.
Eddie had a great tone and sound! I remember reading in the early 80s he stated he was looking for that 1969 to 1975 Pete Townshend tone and sound( Pete's was great) and for sure think caught it and made it Eddie's!!!
Interesting, very cool!
Thank you!
Just one more reason to love Yngwie !
what reason would that be? He's just another speed freak that brings nothing new to the table.... the world is full of em.... Eddie literally reset the bar for metal and thrash guitar 45 years ago and nobody has reset the bar YET..... Hendrix set the bar in what 68? 11 years later, Eddie stood the planet on its frikken ear and nobody has topped that in over 45 years.... yngwie is run of the mill.
@@1956tojo Brother in rock, spend some time with Trial By Fire Live In Leningrad. Both the CD and DVD versions have a lot to offer in their own right. Even being a huge Lynch, EVH and Yngwie fan for 4 decades, took me a few very appreciative listens to pick up on the masterful melodies YM brings to the entire song, and every solo, with each twist, turn and dive. Kinda think that was his whole point all along. Like Jack White said of their first project; it was by design. If you couldn't follow them along with what they were wearing and the stage/instrument visuals, you weren't going follow along with them on the musical journey and appreciate what they were doing. The real truth is all of these players brought amazing stuff to the table and debating one over the other is like arguing with your dog what smell is the best. It's kind of idiotic and just makes you look a little daffy.
@@1956tojo I take it you don't play guitar?
The answer to your question is, Yngwie said a lot of honorable things about Eddie. Which is why I left the comment that I did. Yngwie didn't degrade Eddie after Eddie passed. You see, I too believe Eddie was and is still the Best.
@@1956tojoyour definitely A jealous clown..they are totally different genres clown boy...eddie could NEVER PLAY YNGWIES MUSIC..what have YOU DONE..what discography have YOU CREATED...what worldwide fan base DO YOU HAVE clown boy...And Most Importantly...what the fuk do you have IN THE BANK CLOWN BOY HUH!!!???....
You mean one reason.
I highly doubt Eddie felt threatened from malmsteen it doesn’t make sense Eddie was considered one of the best players since the first Van Halen Halen album came out, he made way more money then malmsteen I mean Eddie paid more money in taxes then he ever made I think Eddie just didn’t like him or maybe he just didn’t have the time but probably just didn’t like him I’m sure Eddie would have found the time if he wanted to meet him.
There's an interview with Eddie on UA-cam where he claims that Randy Rhoads ripped everything off of him. I think it's just as it's described in this video. Being considered the king of guitar made Eddie a bit insecure in a way. Didn't want to be dethroned from that position. Of course, fans will argue that that's impossible but no matter how good you are at something, there's always the possibility of someone else coming along who is better. It's not about personal preference - there are plenty of great guitarists out there - just a hunch.
No Bs..a close friend I grew up with back when Steeler first came out and was new ..told me Eddy saw Malmsteen play at a gig and was seen crying and walking out..NOT kidding..This guy ALWAYS had inside info on this stuff and again was right when that album came out and NObody really knew Malmsteen..
Yngwie is also one of the greatest guitarists ever, he’s influenced millions of players
We should tell people we admire such things while they're alive.
I love EVH , but he had a HUGE ego , saying everyone was copying him , well not everyone was coping EVH , some people like yngwie was on his own level !
To me, it’s apples and oranges. I love Marty Friedman and Jason Becker. But I wouldn’t compare them to EVH neither. It’s one thing to know theory, but to perform it with such precision and speed, it’s something I could never do. Yngwie Malmsteen is his own genre as far as I’m concerned and owns it.
Yeahhhhh bro Friedman's a monster
Each person is unique let lift up one another
Met yngwie a few times. Nice guy.
Never got into Yngwie.
Don't own a single Yngwie album. I own everything Eddie ever did including the concert DVDs.
wow, great.
I never wanted to meet Yngwie either. That doesn't mean I don't like him, just been busy.
The best VH cover I heard in a record is from Yngwie with Light Up The Sky. He understood Esdie’s mind and sound.
I wonder what’s Yngwies opinion about Steve Morse.
There is an interview with Yngwie, where he calls Steve a great player.
Conversely, Steve praised Yngwie in one of his own interviews, also mentioning that he went to see Yngwie in concert. They both live in Florida, BTW.
They are friends.
I STILL think the STEELER solos were his best..IMO ...why? cause I can hum and remember them..freakin amazing..as Gene Simmons once said.."you don't go walking down the street humming Yngwie solos but you do VH.." Well the Steeler solos I could..
Yes but not many people know that in Steeler, on their debut record, Malmsteen played only fast solos while Ron Keel played the melodic ones. That's why those solos sound so great.
The best tapper was Steve Hackett in the Peter Gabriel era Genesis. Where Eddie did it as one of his speed lead tools Hackett made it pretty.
Funny, the Steeler album cover is a copy of Van Halen 1, the guitarist, singer, drum and bassist photos are in identical positions with the band logo in the middle.. 🤔
I had just started my first band when I heard Van Halen in Feb of 78. I was 15 yrs old and was fortunate to have three uncles who were all working musicians, one of whom gave me an ear piercing amp and cabinet that absolutely SCREAMED. It wasn't exactly like Eddie's moded Marshall amps but darn close. Overnight, EVERY hard rock guitar player was desperate to capture Eddie's tone.
Eddie is a legend and creative force, Wingnut here plays scales fast and shreds soulless trash.
If you have ever been to see Malmsteen play live, you would realize that he really is great. I don't listen to his albums much, but live... man, that's where he really shines.
No , Yngwie is awesome at what he does, no doubt about that. Eddie is both a savant and has musical soul combined with god like talent. No reason to rip on Yngwie. He’s the best technical player I’ve ever heard …he plays like it’s a sport instead of art. That’s his problem..
@@scottmelton3092 he does not like Donuts
There are 3 bands that stand out and are my favorite band's. I was 5 when my Mom took me to National Record Mart to pick out my first album. I chose Black Sabbath's Paranoid. That's the first band. The 2nd was Van Halen. I was blown away by the guitar playing. I gotta say Randy Rhoads influenced me in a big way. Eddie and Randy were the 2 reasons I picked up a guitar. The 3rd is Pantera. I remember the exact place I was when I heard all 3 bands. Dimebag Darrell is my very favorite.
Eddie was usually friendly to other guitarists but he was sometimes paranoid towards other guitar greats. Early on it was usually because he didn't want to be copied; e.g. when he met Randy Rhoads, he refused to tell him how he kept his strat in tune. Avoiding Yngwie was really strange because Eddie had already made it big time by then; i.e. there was no reason for Eddie to avoid him.