The new browser is good, BUT to work in this DAW seriously and continue Upgrade Plan I want to see: 1) Grid behind the clips in the arranger! (make it optional in preferences if you don't like it for some kind of reason) 2) Midi comping! 3) Piano roll improvements (look FL, not Ableton) 4) ARA2 for Melodyne integration (look Studio One) 5) Allow us to work with video on the timeline. 6) Groove Pools / swing presets
Thanks for the video! But I have to say that pretty much nothing demonstrated here is new. - The browser was always context aware. - We already could customize the browser for each context. - We already could create collections and smart collections. String search has been improved though and auto completion is a fine addition 🤩 But the biggest problem is that we can't choose to display multiple rows anymore. Literally the only thing the new browser is really better at is displaying package images in a prominent and more favorable way. Yes the images take away a lot of useful space, but if we only could get our rows back I'd more than happy :)
Please tell me how I can see Bitwig stock filters, vst filters, grid filters in the same results list in the old browser. Or maybe kick samples, grid kick presets, kick2 vst and its presets, e-kick and its presets, sampler kick presets all in the same results list?
@@CuriousPassenger The old browser works basically the same way as the new one. The only difference is that devices, presets and samples were on a different tabs. BTW also something I want back. Lumping everything together in one row was a horrible idea imo, but I can see that some users might find this useful. And it would have been easy to integrate this behavior in the existing browser without killing all the niceties :).
@@rumblechannel6343 this is not "the only difference" this is "the crucial difference". I want stuff to be in the same list regardless of its content type. If I make a reverb patch in the Grid, I want to see it in the Reverb category along with the stock Convolution and Reverb devices and 3rd party reverb plugins. I can even make a reverb preset of Delay+ using its blur modes and save it in that Reverb category as well. This was not feasible in the old browser. The old one had static tabs structure. You have Devices, Presets, Samples tabs and that's it. Nothing you could do with it. In the new one I can choose which tabs (i.e. quick sources) I need and they're not tied to content type anymore. Also, I in the new browser collections can be 'local' too. In v4 when I need an instrument I go to the Devices tab, open the Collections row, and I can see collections with instruments, collections with FXs and collections with Note FXs. Wow. That's several dozens collections that I don't really need now. In v5 I simply choose the All Instruments quick source, uncheck the Show All Locations option and voila, I see only the collections that actually contain instruments.
@@vrotegyou have a choice to not see everything in one list. Just use relevant quick sources and filters lol. In v4 I didn't have such a choice. How all of you aren't able to see how versatile the new browser is, I simply don't get it.
PLEASE could you include the keyboard shortcuts for navigating between sections within the browser, similar to the functionality present in the 4.x versions? Your support for Linux as a platform is greatly appreciated!
loving this new browser. I found it a bit counterintuitive at first, but after setting up the contexts to my own use cases, it's a better workflow than ever.
Not enjoying the new browser at all. I used lots of smart collections to organise all of my plugins and hardware devices , its harder to navigate them now. I loved the multiple rows before, now its confusing. The only nice addtion is the collections section.
I'll be honest: it took me a while to get used to a new browser. At first I really disliked it for being extremely cluttered in comparison, then I started slowly discovering all the new cool features, but now I'm mostly happy with the browser rework.
The sample audition and management is far too complicated. When I'm in the "File Browser," I can audition samples in my sample folders, but can't favorite a sample or add it to a collection. When I'm in "Samples and Clips" I can audition the samples and add them to collections but I can't see the folder in which the sample lives. Which is really inconvenient! In my view, the new browser is over-engineered and not intuitive.
I think having one list is, for me at least, pretty bad. I use some samples and plug-ins, I do not need anything else and the way the new browser works, it gives me way too much stuff that I won't use. We'll see, maybe I'll get to like it more anyway
Maybe someone has a tip for me? How can i route the Sound from the Bitwig Sample Browser to the Master Bus BEFORE hitting the output? I have the SoundID Plugin on the master and when i listen to samples in the Browser it skips the master chain with my SOundID Plugin. Thank you very much :)
Why don't you guys make the browser like the one in Ableton? Clean and straight to the point. I hate the new browser it's just a big mess. This and only this is the one thing keeping me from using Bitwig. Please fix this. Make it more simple and clean.
Is there a way to have sub collections for exemple if i create a collection named dynamic , i want in it a sub collections : Compressor / Limiters / Transient designers / Gates & Expander / Mutilband
it would be nice if the browser had the option to add a custom collection more like a view we can add anything, samples, plugins, folders i really hate needing to navigate and click 4 times before I can load in a plugin i use so very frequently
Great job of making features no one asked for Bitwig 👍 Instead of overhauling the actual DAW features and giving us things we need like fixing the piano roll to match Ableton's, putting in all of the warp modes inside sampler, sample slicing inside the sampler, bezier, wavetable LFO and custom curve placement inside of automation lanes, bounce in place with tail effects, a proper resampling option on each channel, the ability to cross-modulate parameters within voice stacking mode, custom themes, etc...Instead of all those missing features you give us an even more difficult browser to work with??
Wavetable LFO? You can't be serious. I think you shouldn't mention Ableton here. It's so poor feature-wise in comparison with Bitwig. I think you want Bitwig to be a generic daw. That'll never happen. Regarding the browser, I totally get what they meant there, but you apparently just don't.
@@CuriousPassenger Sorry to burst your insular little DAW bubble, but as both a semi-professional Ableton user for over 16 years who makes money from Live and a Bitwig user on the side coming up with ideas and making music straight out of the box and finishing songs Ableton runs laps around Bitwig. Live 11 has more editing and implementative features than Bitwig. That is a fact whether you like it or not! Sampler still to this day does not have more than three modes compared to Ableton's six different warp and slice modes. You still can't draw simple sin waves in Bitwig 5's automation lanes. Comparing to the Grid to Max4Live? No need to even entertain that argument. Yes the Wavetable LFO shapes should be freely available in automation lanes. You also seem as the type of person who cares more about how a DAW looks more than how it performs considering Bitwig is made up of ex-Ableton programmers the looks are very similar. Lastly, more amazing albums have been made in Live than in Bitwig.
@@voicesofdust4749 you can't even bounce in Ableton. Can't deactivate tracks and devices. Hybrid tracks? Forget about them. No operators. No full MPE support and voice stacking. The modulation system is poor. Note FXs in Ableton is an unfunny joke. The browser is ridiculous. Audio editing is meh. Clip laucnher and arrangement in a single window? Just no. Flexible three-monitor support with different profiles? No. Remote controls is a total mess esp. for VSTs. You can't setup devices' knobs the way you want. You can wrap devices in racks, but you will be limited with 16 knobs maximum. Device containers are like from the 20th century. Pre/Post?Note/Feedback slots? Nah. Flexible midi and audio routing? No. Unlimited sends? Sends in group tracks? Customizable shortcuts? What about different modes of recording automation? I can go on forever really. Regarding the M4L vs Grid argument, the former is more powerful, but the latter is way more user-friendly. It took me a couple of evenings to wrap my head around it and start building my own stuff there. The other day I build a '2x osc + sub osc + noise osc + 2 filters + distortion' general purpose synth in the Grid for future use, the oscilaltors, the flters and the envelope are replaceable with couple clicks plus I can use any of Bitwig's modualtors. It's more powerful than any stock synth Ableton can offer me, yet it took only 2 hours to make. Regarding Sampler, it doesnt have warping and slicing, but it has the textures mode and its multisample capabilities are way more stronger. Considring that the Sampler is fully integrated with Grid and Bitwig's modulation, voice stacking and MIDI expressions, it's more powerful after all. Slicing can be achieved with modulators, warping can be achieved through bouncing your sample with strecting before dropping it into Sampler, but it doesn't work the other way, as you can't make Bitwig sampler out of Ableton's both samplers. They added the Wavetable LFO in v5. As always it's polyphonic, and with audio rate modulation it can act as an oscillator on its own. Phase-4 now makes even more sense to me. "You also seem as the type of person who cares more about how a DAW looks more than how it performs" Yep, sure. " Bitwig is made up of ex-Ableton programmers" Yep, cos they were sick of the fact Live was developed too slowly and all the points I made above were not addressed.
@@CuriousPassenger Completely agree. Dumped Life a year ago (after several years of using it), and bought Bitwig from the money (and a bit of what I had laying around). I never regretted that choice one bit. I would not go back to Live even if they pay me to do it. Live was always a struggle for me, while Bitwig fits me like a glove. Not to say anything bad about Live, but it's simply not for everybody. And the same goes for Bitwig of course...
Anyway to change the piano roll and arrangement grid lines colours I cannot see anything. Also the faders in the mixer are not smooth it seems to jump when dialling in the perfect dynamics
I wish one day you admit this was the worst move from you. I know it’s done in order to introduce shop in the browser but you sacrificed simplicity and usability of perfectly working part of software. I wish you made a choice between old simple and quick browser and this new confusing cluttered mess thing.
How can I browse instruments by vendor? I click +, I click instruments icon, I don't find vendor in the list where there's location, file kind, creator, ...
so I downloaded version 5 and there are no presets for any of the reverbs. When I click the folder icon like I did in version 4 its taking me to devices. when I click on plug in presets there are none. any thoughts?
Does it allow me to save the browser context to always open to collections when it’s for adding a device or fx? Cause otherwise it doesn’t do what I want. I don’t want to see presets or have to click on the collections to get there. It’s all way more time consuming
Apparently nothing much is new 😂 but at least it’s a good review of all the things we miss in Ableton. Two thumbs up to some smart ideas here, like generally thinking ahead, context search, etc…yet it seems really really clicky 😎🖤🐓
Allow us to get rid of the buttons like "location, file kind, category" etc, in the browser and maybe it will be somewhat decent, becuase this useless buttons take too much space.
The new browser is good, BUT to work in this DAW seriously and continue Upgrade Plan I want to see:
1) Grid behind the clips in the arranger! (make it optional in preferences if you don't like it for some kind of reason)
2) Midi comping!
3) Piano roll improvements (look FL, not Ableton)
4) ARA2 for Melodyne integration (look Studio One)
5) Allow us to work with video on the timeline.
6) Groove Pools / swing presets
FL piano roll the best!
Fl piano roll the only piano roll.
Groove pool / swing presets for the win.
No ARA. I pray whatever you people pray on the sky there will be no ARA integration. This will be the end of stability of bitwig.
Default tracks settings, please. I'd like to load an empty track with a set of predefined plugins.
Thanks for the video! But I have to say that pretty much nothing demonstrated here is new.
- The browser was always context aware.
- We already could customize the browser for each context.
- We already could create collections and smart collections.
String search has been improved though and auto completion is a fine addition 🤩
But the biggest problem is that we can't choose to display multiple rows anymore. Literally the only thing the new browser is really better at is displaying package images in a prominent and more favorable way. Yes the images take away a lot of useful space, but if we only could get our rows back I'd more than happy :)
Please tell me how I can see Bitwig stock filters, vst filters, grid filters in the same results list in the old browser. Or maybe kick samples, grid kick presets, kick2 vst and its presets, e-kick and its presets, sampler kick presets all in the same results list?
@@CuriousPassenger The old browser works basically the same way as the new one. The only difference is that devices, presets and samples were on a different tabs. BTW also something I want back. Lumping everything together in one row was a horrible idea imo, but I can see that some users might find this useful. And it would have been easy to integrate this behavior in the existing browser without killing all the niceties :).
@@rumblechannel6343 this is not "the only difference" this is "the crucial difference". I want stuff to be in the same list regardless of its content type. If I make a reverb patch in the Grid, I want to see it in the Reverb category along with the stock Convolution and Reverb devices and 3rd party reverb plugins. I can even make a reverb preset of Delay+ using its blur modes and save it in that Reverb category as well. This was not feasible in the old browser.
The old one had static tabs structure. You have Devices, Presets, Samples tabs and that's it. Nothing you could do with it. In the new one I can choose which tabs (i.e. quick sources) I need and they're not tied to content type anymore.
Also, I in the new browser collections can be 'local' too. In v4 when I need an instrument I go to the Devices tab, open the Collections row, and I can see collections with instruments, collections with FXs and collections with Note FXs. Wow. That's several dozens collections that I don't really need now. In v5 I simply choose the All Instruments quick source, uncheck the Show All Locations option and voila, I see only the collections that actually contain instruments.
@@CuriousPassengerand this is absolutely dumb idea to show everything in one list 🤦♂️
@@vrotegyou have a choice to not see everything in one list. Just use relevant quick sources and filters lol. In v4 I didn't have such a choice. How all of you aren't able to see how versatile the new browser is, I simply don't get it.
PLEASE could you include the keyboard shortcuts for navigating between sections within the browser, similar to the functionality present in the 4.x versions? Your support for Linux as a platform is greatly appreciated!
loving this new browser. I found it a bit counterintuitive at first, but after setting up the contexts to my own use cases, it's a better workflow than ever.
the old browser is perfect and i can't upgrade because of it :/ sad
I totally agree if perfect means something you are accustomed to.
@@CuriousPassenger beleive it or not, not every UI change is always better.
@@dukenukem8574that's not a UI change, that's a functional one. And they almost managed to address all the issues that I had with the v4 browser.
Not enjoying the new browser at all. I used lots of smart collections to organise all of my plugins and hardware devices , its harder to navigate them now. I loved the multiple rows before, now its confusing.
The only nice addtion is the collections section.
I'll be honest: it took me a while to get used to a new browser. At first I really disliked it for being extremely cluttered in comparison, then I started slowly discovering all the new cool features, but now I'm mostly happy with the browser rework.
Your wife's boyfriend approves your Cuck comment!
Ditto
@@joeysaturday3420 you win the cringiest comment award! 🏆
also, the new browser is just better.
Your browser concept to me is the best in industry. Its context sensitivity + typing into search right away is super fast & intuitive.
Bitwig literally looks and feels like im playing a musical video game. So much fun.
I can't work with a new browser. It is counter intuitive. The old one was better. Is possible to bring back old one as an option?
Been using Bitwig since day 1.. cannot understand the new browser. It's completely disrupting my workflow and turning me off the program
The sample audition and management is far too complicated. When I'm in the "File Browser," I can audition samples in my sample folders, but can't favorite a sample or add it to a collection. When I'm in "Samples and Clips" I can audition the samples and add them to collections but I can't see the folder in which the sample lives. Which is really inconvenient! In my view, the new browser is over-engineered and not intuitive.
I think having one list is, for me at least, pretty bad. I use some samples and plug-ins, I do not need anything else and the way the new browser works, it gives me way too much stuff that I won't use.
We'll see, maybe I'll get to like it more anyway
very good - on the point
Finally updated to 5 and i like the more modern dark look GUI. Cheers
I love the narrator so much.
Maybe someone has a tip for me? How can i route the Sound from the Bitwig Sample Browser to the Master Bus BEFORE hitting the output? I have the SoundID Plugin on the master and when i listen to samples in the Browser it skips the master chain with my SOundID Plugin. Thank you very much :)
Why don't you guys make the browser like the one in Ableton? Clean and straight to the point. I hate the new browser it's just a big mess. This and only this is the one thing keeping me from using Bitwig. Please fix this. Make it more simple and clean.
It's not simplified, its overdone; unnecessary. Not welcomed.
When you are making such drastic changes, you should give an option to choose.
Is there a way to have sub collections for exemple if i create a collection named dynamic , i want in it a sub collections : Compressor / Limiters / Transient designers / Gates & Expander / Mutilband
it would be nice if the browser had the option to add a custom collection more like a view we can add anything, samples, plugins, folders
i really hate needing to navigate and click 4 times before I can load in a plugin i use so very frequently
is it possible to sort by file length?
As a new BW user, I am really struggling with this browser. OMG it is so convoluted and confusing. I hope I can get the hang of it.
Great job of making features no one asked for Bitwig 👍 Instead of overhauling the actual DAW features and giving us things we need like fixing the piano roll to match Ableton's, putting in all of the warp modes inside sampler, sample slicing inside the sampler, bezier, wavetable LFO and custom curve placement inside of automation lanes, bounce in place with tail effects, a proper resampling option on each channel, the ability to cross-modulate parameters within voice stacking mode, custom themes, etc...Instead of all those missing features you give us an even more difficult browser to work with??
Wavetable LFO? You can't be serious.
I think you shouldn't mention Ableton here. It's so poor feature-wise in comparison with Bitwig. I think you want Bitwig to be a generic daw. That'll never happen. Regarding the browser, I totally get what they meant there, but you apparently just don't.
@@CuriousPassenger Sorry to burst your insular little DAW bubble, but as both a semi-professional Ableton user for over 16 years who makes money from Live and a Bitwig user on the side coming up with ideas and making music straight out of the box and finishing songs Ableton runs laps around Bitwig. Live 11 has more editing and implementative features than Bitwig. That is a fact whether you like it or not! Sampler still to this day does not have more than three modes compared to Ableton's six different warp and slice modes. You still can't draw simple sin waves in Bitwig 5's automation lanes. Comparing to the Grid to Max4Live? No need to even entertain that argument. Yes the Wavetable LFO shapes should be freely available in automation lanes. You also seem as the type of person who cares more about how a DAW looks more than how it performs considering Bitwig is made up of ex-Ableton programmers the looks are very similar. Lastly, more amazing albums have been made in Live than in Bitwig.
@@voicesofdust4749 you can't even bounce in Ableton. Can't deactivate tracks and devices. Hybrid tracks? Forget about them. No operators. No full MPE support and voice stacking. The modulation system is poor. Note FXs in Ableton is an unfunny joke. The browser is ridiculous. Audio editing is meh. Clip laucnher and arrangement in a single window? Just no. Flexible three-monitor support with different profiles? No. Remote controls is a total mess esp. for VSTs. You can't setup devices' knobs the way you want. You can wrap devices in racks, but you will be limited with 16 knobs maximum. Device containers are like from the 20th century. Pre/Post?Note/Feedback slots? Nah. Flexible midi and audio routing? No. Unlimited sends? Sends in group tracks? Customizable shortcuts? What about different modes of recording automation? I can go on forever really.
Regarding the M4L vs Grid argument, the former is more powerful, but the latter is way more user-friendly. It took me a couple of evenings to wrap my head around it and start building my own stuff there. The other day I build a '2x osc + sub osc + noise osc + 2 filters + distortion' general purpose synth in the Grid for future use, the oscilaltors, the flters and the envelope are replaceable with couple clicks plus I can use any of Bitwig's modualtors. It's more powerful than any stock synth Ableton can offer me, yet it took only 2 hours to make.
Regarding Sampler, it doesnt have warping and slicing, but it has the textures mode and its multisample capabilities are way more stronger. Considring that the Sampler is fully integrated with Grid and Bitwig's modulation, voice stacking and MIDI expressions, it's more powerful after all. Slicing can be achieved with modulators, warping can be achieved through bouncing your sample with strecting before dropping it into Sampler, but it doesn't work the other way, as you can't make Bitwig sampler out of Ableton's both samplers.
They added the Wavetable LFO in v5. As always it's polyphonic, and with audio rate modulation it can act as an oscillator on its own. Phase-4 now makes even more sense to me.
"You also seem as the type of person who cares more about how a DAW looks more than how it performs"
Yep, sure.
" Bitwig is made up of ex-Ableton programmers"
Yep, cos they were sick of the fact Live was developed too slowly and all the points I made above were not addressed.
@@voicesofdust4749 just to let you know, I had been using Live two years before switching to Bitwig so I know what I'm talking about.
@@CuriousPassenger Completely agree. Dumped Life a year ago (after several years of using it), and bought Bitwig from the money (and a bit of what I had laying around). I never regretted that choice one bit. I would not go back to Live even if they pay me to do it. Live was always a struggle for me, while Bitwig fits me like a glove.
Not to say anything bad about Live, but it's simply not for everybody. And the same goes for Bitwig of course...
Thanks it makes sense now 😀
Anyway to change the piano roll and arrangement grid lines colours I cannot see anything. Also the faders in the mixer are not smooth it seems to jump when dialling in the perfect dynamics
I wish one day you admit this was the worst move from you. I know it’s done in order to introduce shop in the browser but you sacrificed simplicity and usability of perfectly working part of software. I wish you made a choice between old simple and quick browser and this new confusing cluttered mess thing.
Beautiful browsers! How cool would it be if Bitwig finally got video capabilities?
Maybe you are in the wrong daw?
How can I browse instruments by vendor? I click +, I click instruments icon, I don't find vendor in the list where there's location, file kind, creator, ...
Still no CMD-F? It's been years
Unfortunately i don't like new browser,old version was great
Can you change the Overall colour Theme of bitwig so like everything is like purple or smth like that
She really is quite stern.
so I downloaded version 5 and there are no presets for any of the reverbs. When I click the folder icon like I did in version 4 its taking me to devices. when I click on plug in presets there are none. any thoughts?
Bitwig 5...is INSANITY!🔥🔥🔥
Does it allow me to save the browser context to always open to collections when it’s for adding a device or fx? Cause otherwise it doesn’t do what I want.
I don’t want to see presets or have to click on the collections to get there. It’s all way more time consuming
yeah, you can customise it however you see fit. Once set up it actually is pretty streamlined.
Apparently nothing much is new 😂 but at least it’s a good review of all the things we miss in Ableton. Two thumbs up to some smart ideas here, like generally thinking ahead, context search, etc…yet it seems really really clicky 😎🖤🐓
is Bitwig UI 60 fps? Can you make it 60 fps?
Hi bitwig, I'm ready to jump ship from ableton (resource heavy bit@h). I have akai force but not a current supported device. Is it in the pipeline?
The only problem I'm having with the new browser is that I can't find a way to hide empty collections.
🐷 💄 it is a UX disaster paired with really really bad iconography ….
Who does need this???
Not a fan of the new browser.
When bitwig will have new theme
never
how the fuck do i browse collections?
Love it
I do not like it at all
Noone cares)
Allow us to get rid of the buttons like "location, file kind, category" etc, in the browser and maybe it will be somewhat decent, becuase this useless buttons take too much space.
What a dumb update. Search worked just fine, now you all screwed it up. Wonder how much business you lose before an update comes to this bad design.
nah, I thought it was fine before, but now that I've learned it, it truly is much better now. Really fast to find what I'm after.
any news on ara2 support?
Extremely cluttered and counterintuitive. The previous browser was great, I don't understand why they felt the need to change it.
REX support?
The browser is the worst thing in the entire program.
Sry guys, but you kinda ruined it.
Anyone else still hate this?
@TACHESTEACHES did it better IMO :)
ARA support
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