God sent to clarify missing information. We need to learn and write classical information down as treasures. Long life Bishop, we truly respect you. Thanks
Thank you Bishop for this wonderful history information that we luo speaking people were not aware my request is that all schools in luo regions much teach in schools cirulum and if possible Bishop to give his speak of TV and all luo people watch and learn the rich history from him. Thank you for eyes happening of who we are. All schools must teach our language I am one of the lost generation who don't know how to write luo language elders and MPS make it a must in all schools. Thank you for this wonderful togetherness
This is a good narrative! He has forgotten the Dinkas (Jieng), Nuer and Atuot tribes in South Sudan who were migrating together with the Luos from Egypt. He has also forgotten to point out that the Luos were primarily in Bor and Bhar el Ghazal areas of South Sudan prior to their movement southwards to present-day Uganda, Kenya and Tanzania...But generally he is a well informed elderly man of God in deed! Hopefully God shall bless him for us.
I always wanted to correct the luo narrative of today but am very happy you do share with me the same perspective.God has not forgotten us our distortated history will arise once again. Bullshit is Barl El ghahel story it's the whole north and eastern Africa,south Europe and Asia at large hence our effect to the whole world this is why our language is the first international language taught all over the world.
Thank God for feeding ur lips n tongue with the truth about our movement Bishop. And any body who will confess Jesus Christ as his or her savior will enjoy the reconciliation 🤝 in the blood of Jesus Christ.And may God bless you more Bishop.
This is a very rich Literature and History about the origin of the Luos. I am a Kenya Luo, and I always hear my elders link us with the Nabongos/Mumias! Can someone take this further to the Kenyan Luos please. It is truly inspiring and insightful. Thank you Bishop Ochola.
I found a video here, where none other than Raila did a lengthy insightful narration of how the Luos came to Kenya. He also explained the link with the Wanga people of present day Mumias and the Suba people. Here is the link ua-cam.com/video/Lr3ujL-DIx8/v-deo.html
A very rich history not to be forgotten by generations to come. Thank you Rt Rev. Bishop McBaker Ochola. The wisdom you put in to explain, made it even more interesting.....
I love the spirit we are having as Luo as Acholi, I believe in one true time to come that we will be family again, no matter how broken we are, we are never doomed, God knows it better, we trust the process,
Thank you Lakwed TV. Could the management of Lakwed TV take the initiative to spread this messages to all radio stations in the Northern Uganda and all the Luo speaking regions? That's my kind request.
My Elder thank you so much for teaching all of us this piece of Our-story. I find that it is intriging that Luo came from Jerusalem. This type of Education raises many important questions. My Elder a question arising. Ladit ahh! Loki ni Luo oaa ki Jerusalem pe lok ma tidi baa. Man kit ma dong loki ocati woko kamaleng
My Elder thank you so much for teaching all of us this piece of Our-story. This type of Education raises many important questions about Luo migration that must be address in Truth because now there is need for You to provide sufficient support with Truth telling evidence concerning this matter of Luo migration. My Elder, please can you help us know more about this information? My Elder please are you able to call for us the ones who are ready with sufficient support with Truth telling evidence? It must be very important for us to "know the truth" about Our-Story because it has everything to do with knowing who we are as Luo peoples. This way we may know where we are. This way we may know where we are going! This way we may find solutions that will aid with Luo integration and cement Luo unity. "Oh how good and pleasant it is for brothers to dwell in unity."
How is it a fairy tales? Did you search sources in Universities, archives, museums etc? There is nothing new here it is just the whites and arabs deceived us that they started religion or that Jesus is white etc - all lies. Spirituality and scripture writings started in Africa
Thankyou for the great initiative I would have loved to attend.Dr.Olara Otunu needs to know that Gipir and Labongo stories were myths just like Walumbe and Nambi in buganda. They are not actual stories but an easy exit to explain in the former case the separation of Alur and Acholi. It needs to be interrogated further why the majority of alur are from Congo yet the Lous migrated on the caracts of the Nile.
I'm told Alur just migrated to Congo from the present day Paraa (Murchison National Park) because of Nagana disease caused by Tsetse flies. The subsequent outbreak of war in congo forced the Alur to find their way back to Uganda (West Nile and even to Bugungu)
We don't need to originate in Jerusalem to be a great people. I don't get the connection to Israel. But very interesting explanation of Luo origin nonetheless
I am dark, but lovely, you daughters of Jerusalem, like Kedar’s tents, like Solomon’s curtains. Don’t stare at me because I am dark, because the sun has scorched me. My mother’s sons were angry with me. They made me keeper of the vineyards. I haven’t kept my own vineyard. Song of Solomon 1:5-6 This is the strongest evidence to reveal the luo, who are the dark skin people in the world? Obviously luo people from great North including south Sudan carries the greatest evidence, therefore I agree luo where in Jerusalem according to the evidence of scripture
Is he able to give us the history between Acholi Sudan and Acholi Uganda, is the Labongo story also part of Acholi Sudan history or is it only Acholi Ugandan history. I heard the story when I was young and I thought it was a tale. I’m a little confused and I wanna understand the Acholi history better because there are too much segregations between Acholi Sudan and Uganda.
En bal mubedo ka timme en. Lok ma pire tek kit man myero luditowa gudum aduma ki leb mwunu bot dano? Twaro nongo lagony dog obed tye kenyo ka ngetgi. Myero kitim kacokke odoco ma ludito meno ducu gutit kore ki kore gin ma wigi po iiye ni i leb Lwo/Luo. Enni pe lok matidi. Dok kicul ludito ni ducu pi kony pa gin wot nyo cam, kabwuto gi kit meno. Wa ludito ma i Alur, Adola, Tanzania, Sudan, Ethiopia kameno. Gin ducu gulok i leb Lwo. Kira ajog me konyo yub ma kit man.
Bishop Baker Ochola's Presentation need to be investigated further. Could the Luo be one of the Lost 12 Hebrew tribes which were scattered according to the Bible prophesies; or fraction of the Hebrew tribe who chose to move down the Nile while Moses led the rest through the Red Sea into the Canaan Land ? Could the Luo had a significant contribution to foundation of civilization in the Ancient Egypt and participated in the construction of the Pyriamids and fortification of the Ancient Egyptian Empire. Very little has been passed down to the current generation through oral history and we have unanimously accepted the Colonialist verson (Bar-el-Gazel in the Luo Cradle Land). That is the danger of allowing to be told your story. The Bishop stated in his commencement speech that the Luo originated from Jerusalem, not Bar-El-Gazel ? That's what we were all fed on in our History classes in School. History points out that the Luo has always enshrined their live and Livelihood along the Nile and so does the name Nilotic stem from, i presume and so do the Ancient Egyptian and the Hebrew. Up until 1991, remnants of the Biblical Hebrews (Beta Israel) were lost and suffered in Ethiopia for centuries not until they were discovered, airlifted and resettled in Israel. The IGBO's of the Nigeria are projecting the same claims; the Lemba of Zimbabwe as well, and in his speech i here the Bishop making claim. Not only him, Bosmic Otim in the Intro of most of his songs; In our school days Mr. Layeng used to speak about the same. Should we continue to thrash this ? There are very scanty literature on this subject yet very fundamentals for Luo. This is a very significant research topic that the Luo Elders, Prof, Scholars and spiritual leaders has to invest time and resources to uncover. Otherwise, many of them may not be around forever and our root/origin will always begin from Bar-El-Gazel as the colonialist documented it. Our suffering may not be in vain.
Lucemec mukelo dini ni gingeyo ento pe gimito ni ludito dini gutuc kit meno pien turo yub me bwola ki pwony ma gin mwuni gubwolo kwede wi lobo lung. Myero wan aye watimu jami ki komwa.
EXACTLY the danger of someone else telling your story. which is why we need someone of Luo origin to go and pursue a PhD in Anthropology and publish and share our stories
Do you think the devil and an outsider want to tell you the truth about your origin. Get back to your roots and worship God the creator and do all his commandments
Frankly, I have never been persuaded by the theory that Bar El Ghazal is the cradle land of Luo people. Quite simply because the area has never been renowned for being a centre of human civilisation or a centre of some early human activities. The present Luo groups in Bar el Ghazal are a small minority who lost their way during this long and weiry track along the Nile. To me this theory seems like a deliberate distraction by White scholars to deny the black negroid people their strong and evidence based claim to ancient Egyptian (Pharaonic) civilisation, ie from the period (Menes 3201BC to Amenhotep-1353 BC). According to, perhaps the most acclaimed Egyptologist, Cheikh Anta Diop, a Senegalist by nationality, when the Pharaonic Egypt was raided by Sematic tribesmen from the Middle East the orignal black Negroid Egyptians, eg the Wolof, the Igbos, etc fled Westwards, while the Luos and other Negroid Africans went southwards, following the Nile. Cheick Anta Diop (RIP) authored several books on African history, including "The Origin Of Civilizarion-Myth Or Reality". The Amharic people of Ethiopa who accompanied the Queen of Sheeba to Israel during the reign of King Solomon (son of King David-900-931) were in Israel long after the end of the pharaonic period (3201-1353BC) and lived there for no more than two generations. They returned to Ethiopa when the Queen's son was denied succession to his father's throne by the Sanhedrin. Therefore their claim to being the Pharaos of ancient Egpt cannot be backed by historical records. Equally I am not persuaded that Luo cradleland was Jersusalem (Judea) as postulated by the Right Hon. Emeritus Bishop Ochola. However it seems more credible that Luo cradle land was between North Sudan and Upper Egypt (around present day Nuba mountains) from where black Negroid people occupied and ruled ancient Egypt. Please notice that there are more pyramids in this region than there are in Egypt, which Western Egyptologist choose to overlook, quite simply becuase not to do so would destroy their hiden agenda to wrongfully and maliciously deny credit for ancient Egptian civilisation due to Black Negroid people. They would rather give the credit to present day Egptians than to black negroid Africans. As for the "Beads and Spear" story narreted by the Bishop, ie conflict between Gipiir and Labongo, I believe that it is not a myth as some people may be inclined to think so. It is oral history. The Chollo people in Upper Nile Province have their own similar version of the event. In fact it is on record that a prominent Luo elder from Kenya, Mzee Apollo Ohanga came to Uganda in 1946 to visit that point of separation ( aka Wang-wat-lee) in West Acholiland. In fact, if anything it is the existence of the Chwezi people that has been called into question by at least two very imminent Historians: The French Historians Jean-pierre Chretien in his book, "The Great Lakes of Africa" found that among the Karagwe people in Northern Tanzania (who are related to the Bahima) that the Bachwezi were "purely supernatural people" who allegedly dropped from the sky. Another very eminent scholar of history of the Great Lakes Region of Africa Fr J P Crazollara, perhaps the most reputed writer of Central Luo History (three volumes) dismisses the idea entirely, for lack of collaborative evidences.
@Paul Kilama JP Crazollara was an agent of the colonialist government. In fact all the missionaries were working to write against each and every ethnic group, they informed their governments about the strengths and weakness of each group so governments can figure out how to fight the people to date. Luo/Lwo being the people of Israel, just study the culture especially all the customs which the colonial missionaries forcefully outlawed. Also see how kids were beaten at schools that they should not speak the Lwo /Luo language, it was for some hidden reason that authorities knew.
At the onset the Bishop is not right . Such initiatives needs researchers and not criteria of age to profess knowledge ladit loum The oldest humans where discovered in East Africa in oldivai George and this have not been contested by the white man.so the assertion that luos where in Israel is absolutely wrong . After the big bang the world drifted and the white man lost his colour from black because of lack of sun. So how were blacks again in Israel 2000 year ago. It is true that the Egyptian civilization is the blackmans civilization(the kushites,) and I guess Luos where a component of kushites (not researched) So it's a good initiative and I pray I would be annually and we invite researchers on specifics topics. You need to invite CJ and even Fr.Dr okumu Regards loum
Honestly I don't really see white people in hot climates changing back to black 😕 im not a scientist but how long being in the sun would it take for them to regain melanin 🤔 without mixing DNA
OO I like your point of argument but I think you were basing your reasoning on the white men's presumptive or distorted history. I am more convinced with the Bishop's narrative of the names of places given by the Bishop. This should also teach us (African and Luo) that our history belongs to us and not the narrative and/or interpretation of the whites. Think of "Ka tum" "pa Bit" etc.
@@thekobs9839 so what evidence is there to show the luo were is in Israel ? At which point did we/they loose/gain our skin colour? Ths linguistic tools of comparison the Bishop is using is not sufficient to draw inferences and academic conclusions. Eg saying Khartoum is a place to get finished, or Cairo a place of smoke . The same is what okwera Jaria said ok radio one that Italy is "kit tal ango".in luo when where the luos I Italy? That approach is not sustainable in academia or epistemology. In any case there on 26/27 letters of the the alphabet so words are destined to be similar. To draw inferences and conclusions from your perspective only in academia is called bigotry eg we say the monkey is not putting on clothes while from the other end the monkey laughs at human that we can't stand cold by putting on clothes . All arguments have two or more sides but using the globally acceptable tool of analysis even if "euro centric" is a prerequisite to modern day knowledge not just age brother. . That is why all space scientists have to be recognised by NASA, you can't fly from opololacen my village in pader to the moon NASA will not allow because there is already an acquired body of knowledge in the area so.you have to go and present your case to them on the new area. The Bishops submission is oral tradition and hearsay and it has to to corroborated with other tools like: research, physical features. A quick test I agree the pyramids is luo/kushites Civilization why ? It can be traced down the Nile as you get smaller pyramids.That is evidence that can stand without oral tradition Thanks alot. THE WRITER IS A PHD CANDIDATE IN PHILOSOPHY OF LAW UNIVERSITY OF BARCELONA
@@odongaotto3116 Almost all of us had the names of our forefathers in the bible before the missionaries came. Why is this since we did not have the white man's bible? The cultural practices, check all of the things in church and find out if they are in the bible that the white missionaries or Muslims brought. Our culture is in the bible but not their cultures. What the missionaries and colonialist destroyed are the cultures of the bible which were given to people of Israel. As for writings, we had different ones to what they brought, we had our own system of writing. We lived in Turkey also which is why so many Lwo words are in Turkey shops, with same meaning to date. We migrated all over the place because of war.
This history does not tie up with the history of Egypt. Egyptian History with pharaohs dates back to 6000 BC, so the luo history just dating back 400 years ago cannot claim credit for egyptian heritage.
These things have been researched already but it is you that needs to dig deeper, some evidence are in Universities, museums etc. It looks like goverments and religious inistitutions did not want people to know the turth, afterall billions of people deceived. All film industries lied that Jesus, Mary etc were europeans - not a single evidence to coroborate this.
We as the younger luos as to write this down so that we assist with those who shall come after us !
God sent to clarify missing information. We need to learn and write classical information down as treasures. Long life Bishop, we truly respect you. Thanks
Thank you Bishop for this wonderful history information that we luo speaking people were not aware my request is that all schools in luo regions much teach in schools cirulum and if possible Bishop to give his speak of TV and all luo people watch and learn the rich history from him. Thank you for eyes happening of who we are. All schools must teach our language I am one of the lost generation who don't know how to write luo language elders and MPS make it a must in all schools. Thank you for this wonderful togetherness
This is a good narrative! He has forgotten the Dinkas (Jieng), Nuer and Atuot tribes in South Sudan who were migrating together with the Luos from Egypt. He has also forgotten to point out that the Luos were primarily in Bor and Bhar el Ghazal areas of South Sudan prior to their movement southwards to present-day Uganda, Kenya and Tanzania...But generally he is a well informed elderly man of God in deed! Hopefully God shall bless him for us.
Ateker and central sudanic tribes were living in northern Uganda before Luo migration
@@thealisterr There was no country called Uganda.
I always wanted to correct the luo narrative of today but am very happy you do share with me the same perspective.God has not forgotten us our distortated history will arise once again. Bullshit is Barl El ghahel story it's the whole north and eastern Africa,south Europe and Asia at large hence our effect to the whole world this is why our language is the first international language taught all over the world.
Labongo and Dipir found their way into Kenya and formed one Luo community .... Luo in Kenya is a mixture of Alur, Acholi and Padhola... God is Great.
And Bantu and Ateker
Any references to your claim
@@jamesoloo7195 If you Know Jok Jok, Jok Owiny and Jok Omollo. Yeah they are the ones
Very excited.
Much respect from luo of bhar el ghazal wau South Sudan
As luo from Kenya i feel praud of my heritage
Thank God for feeding ur lips n tongue with the truth about our movement Bishop. And any body who will confess Jesus Christ as his or her savior will enjoy the reconciliation 🤝 in the blood of Jesus Christ.And may God bless you more Bishop.
I can listen to this all day long! How awesome and heart warming history.❤️🙏🏾
This is a very rich Literature and History about the origin of the Luos. I am a Kenya Luo, and I always hear my elders link us with the Nabongos/Mumias! Can someone take this further to the Kenyan Luos please. It is truly inspiring and insightful. Thank you Bishop Ochola.
This Luo Foundation is for every Luo blood.
The Luo convention in Toronto Canada will help to build more on the idea.
Thanks so much!
He has explained it
I found a video here, where none other than Raila did a lengthy insightful narration of how the Luos came to Kenya. He also explained the link with the Wanga people of present day Mumias and the Suba people. Here is the link ua-cam.com/video/Lr3ujL-DIx8/v-deo.html
Am happy. To be luo
That's great we must have such people to show us the right history of our father's thanks a lot Reverand
A very rich history not to be forgotten by generations to come. Thank you Rt Rev. Bishop McBaker Ochola. The wisdom you put in to explain, made it even more interesting.....
This is great history
Thanks very much Rt. Bisho
Thanks 😊
What a living legend 🙌 👏.
Much respect, my Lord Bishop 🙏
Beautiful history of the Luo people
Well done for remember us
It's my great pleasure to hear my back ground. Am really proud to be LUO
That's great
You looked mixed with Bantu
Really am happy to hear this wonderful history of Luo TRIBE, i come from pabit clan, it means we are relatives to Banyoro .
Banyoro are buntu but Lwo are settled among them possibly called Cope people - further research needed.
I love the spirit we are having as Luo as Acholi, I believe in one true time to come that we will be family again, no matter how broken we are, we are never doomed, God knows it better, we trust the process,
It will come to pass . Our Luo spirit is burning towards the unity
L.U.O. most cherished values include :
1.*Love/Loyalty/liberty;
2.*Unity/Understanding/Uprightness;
3.*Orderliness/Openness/Obedience.✌
Thanks so much
Right on
This is fantastic,Lou should unite together
Even we luos of Kenya also sing the same song lili lango biro.the lango this time being our neighbour the kalenjin.
Interesting video and info for someone who comes from all the aforementioned places. 🕎
Correct correct correct 💯
That is a great and rich history.
Luo Malo Malo.
Wonderful history keep it papa
Very good history. Thnx so much our Bishop
You're welcome!
There is urgent need to document all these!
Very true
The same history to that of luo Anywaa,.the history of separation. 🥰🥰
Very good history
!&m Yahshua Tekkwor🦅
Thanks you our elder historian
Bishop thanks for the great work
He has a valid point, Ancient Egypt had a king whose name was corrupted to Neco but in Luo it is Nyeko, in fact i had a high school called NYEKO.
Thanks
Yes Nilotics are the true descendants of ancient Egypt
Proud to be Luo
Absolutely
Thank you Lakwed TV. Could the management of Lakwed TV take the initiative to spread this messages to all radio stations in the Northern Uganda and all the Luo speaking regions?
That's my kind request.
Thanks you so much!
We appreciate your input and we shall act the best way we can!
Great history
Ì once had this story
My Elder thank you so much for teaching all of us this piece of Our-story. I find that it is intriging that Luo came from Jerusalem. This type of Education raises many important questions. My Elder a question arising. Ladit ahh! Loki ni Luo oaa ki Jerusalem pe lok ma tidi baa. Man kit ma dong loki ocati woko kamaleng
Grate trek. Historic history
My Elder thank you so much for teaching all of us this piece of Our-story. This type of Education raises many important questions about Luo migration that must be address in Truth because now there is need for You to provide sufficient support with Truth telling evidence concerning this matter of Luo migration. My Elder, please can you help us know more about this information? My Elder please are you able to call for us the ones who are ready with sufficient support with Truth telling evidence? It must be very important for us to "know the truth" about Our-Story because it has everything to do with knowing who we are as Luo peoples. This way we may know where we are. This way we may know where we are going! This way we may find solutions that will aid with Luo integration and cement Luo unity. "Oh how good and pleasant it is for brothers to dwell in unity."
Thanks so much
The mighty Luo!!
😂😂😂😂😂! He lost me with that reference to Jerusalem!
The world map today was distorted.
Wow
Fairy tales Mr Luo.....nice!
How is it a fairy tales? Did you search sources in Universities, archives, museums etc? There is nothing new here it is just the whites and arabs deceived us that they started religion or that Jesus is white etc - all lies. Spirituality and scripture writings started in Africa
Bachwezi are tutsi and banyamrenge of today
Thankyou for the great initiative I would have loved to attend.Dr.Olara Otunu needs to know that Gipir and Labongo stories were myths just like Walumbe and Nambi in buganda.
They are not actual stories but an easy exit to explain in the former case the separation of Alur and Acholi.
It needs to be interrogated further why the majority of alur are from Congo yet the Lous migrated on the caracts of the Nile.
I'm told Alur just migrated to Congo from the present day Paraa (Murchison National Park) because of Nagana disease caused by Tsetse flies.
The subsequent outbreak of war in congo forced the Alur to find their way back to Uganda (West Nile and even to Bugungu)
Thanks for the inside info
I really would love to see you Ladit Otto in the next meeting. It would be so fruitful for the harmonization of these information!
Some how all the language around us are affected deeply luo greater effect luo language is in Arabic dialect.
@@odongvincent3696All the Alur were initially in what is now Congo. West Nile is added to Uganda only in 1910-14.
We don't need to originate in Jerusalem to be a great people. I don't get the connection to Israel. But very interesting explanation of Luo origin nonetheless
Thanks
I am dark, but lovely, you daughters of Jerusalem, like Kedar’s tents, like Solomon’s curtains. Don’t stare at me because I am dark, because the sun has scorched me. My mother’s sons were angry with me. They made me keeper of the vineyards. I haven’t kept my own vineyard.
Song of Solomon 1:5-6
This is the strongest evidence to reveal the luo, who are the dark skin people in the world? Obviously luo people from great North including south Sudan carries the greatest evidence, therefore I agree luo where in Jerusalem according to the evidence of scripture
Great literature
My God is too much
Is he able to give us the history between Acholi Sudan and Acholi Uganda, is the Labongo story also part of Acholi Sudan history or is it only Acholi Ugandan history. I heard the story when I was young and I thought it was a tale. I’m a little confused and I wanna understand the Acholi history better because there are too much segregations between Acholi Sudan and Uganda.
🙏
indeed for real.
Which tribes make up Luo?
Good question & I believe the elders will give us more on that soon!
En bal mubedo ka timme en. Lok ma pire tek kit man myero luditowa gudum aduma ki leb mwunu bot dano? Twaro nongo lagony dog obed tye kenyo ka ngetgi. Myero kitim kacokke odoco ma ludito meno ducu gutit kore ki kore gin ma wigi po iiye ni i leb Lwo/Luo. Enni pe lok matidi. Dok kicul ludito ni ducu pi kony pa gin wot nyo cam, kabwuto gi kit meno. Wa ludito ma i Alur, Adola, Tanzania, Sudan, Ethiopia kameno. Gin ducu gulok i leb Lwo. Kira ajog me konyo yub ma kit man.
Ayee loki ada. Ka dong onongo ada ni Bishop olok i leb munu, ci myero lagony doge obed tye
He is partly right- while focusing on Southern Luo .
Bishop Baker Ochola's Presentation need to be investigated further. Could the Luo be one of the Lost 12 Hebrew tribes which were scattered according to the Bible prophesies; or fraction of the Hebrew tribe who chose to move down the Nile while Moses led the rest through the Red Sea into the Canaan Land ? Could the Luo had a significant contribution to foundation of civilization in the Ancient Egypt and participated in the construction of the Pyriamids and fortification of the Ancient Egyptian Empire. Very little has been passed down to the current generation through oral history and we have unanimously accepted the Colonialist verson (Bar-el-Gazel in the Luo Cradle Land). That is the danger of allowing to be told your story.
The Bishop stated in his commencement speech that the Luo originated from Jerusalem, not Bar-El-Gazel ? That's what we were all fed on in our History classes in School. History points out that the Luo has always enshrined their live and Livelihood along the Nile and so does the name Nilotic stem from, i presume and so do the Ancient Egyptian and the Hebrew. Up until 1991, remnants of the Biblical Hebrews (Beta Israel) were lost and suffered in Ethiopia for centuries not until they were discovered, airlifted and resettled in Israel.
The IGBO's of the Nigeria are projecting the same claims; the Lemba of Zimbabwe as well, and in his speech i here the Bishop making claim. Not only him, Bosmic Otim in the Intro of most of his songs; In our school days Mr. Layeng used to speak about the same. Should we continue to thrash this ? There are very scanty literature on this subject yet very fundamentals for Luo. This is a very significant research topic that the Luo Elders, Prof, Scholars and spiritual leaders has to invest time and resources to uncover. Otherwise, many of them may not be around forever and our root/origin will always begin from Bar-El-Gazel as the colonialist documented it. Our suffering may not be in vain.
Lucemec mukelo dini ni gingeyo ento pe gimito ni ludito dini gutuc kit meno pien turo yub me bwola ki pwony ma gin mwuni gubwolo kwede wi lobo lung. Myero wan aye watimu jami ki komwa.
This comment is amazing, mgt should really take this seriously
EXACTLY the danger of someone else telling your story. which is why we need someone of Luo origin to go and pursue a PhD in Anthropology and publish and share our stories
Do you think the devil and an outsider want to tell you the truth about your origin. Get back to your roots and worship God the creator and do all his commandments
Part of the story is not adding up coz how could elephants gather all the spears in piles?
Frankly, I have never been persuaded by the theory that Bar El Ghazal is the cradle land of Luo people. Quite simply because the area has never been renowned for being a centre of human civilisation or a centre of some early human activities.
The present Luo groups in Bar el Ghazal are a small minority who lost their way during this long and weiry track along the Nile.
To me this theory seems like a deliberate distraction by White scholars to deny the black negroid people their strong and evidence based claim to ancient Egyptian (Pharaonic) civilisation, ie from the period (Menes 3201BC to Amenhotep-1353 BC).
According to, perhaps the most acclaimed Egyptologist, Cheikh Anta Diop, a Senegalist by nationality, when the Pharaonic Egypt was raided by Sematic tribesmen from the Middle East the orignal black Negroid Egyptians, eg the Wolof, the Igbos, etc fled Westwards, while the Luos and other Negroid Africans went southwards, following the Nile. Cheick Anta Diop (RIP) authored several books on African history, including "The Origin Of Civilizarion-Myth Or Reality".
The Amharic people of Ethiopa who accompanied the Queen of Sheeba to Israel during the reign of King Solomon (son of King David-900-931) were in Israel long after the end of the pharaonic period (3201-1353BC) and lived there for no more than two generations. They returned to Ethiopa when the Queen's son was denied succession to his father's throne by the Sanhedrin. Therefore their claim to being the Pharaos of ancient Egpt cannot be backed by historical records.
Equally I am not persuaded that Luo cradleland was Jersusalem (Judea) as postulated by the Right Hon. Emeritus Bishop Ochola.
However it seems more credible that Luo cradle land was between North Sudan and Upper Egypt (around present day Nuba mountains) from where black Negroid people occupied and ruled ancient Egypt.
Please notice that there are more pyramids in this region than there are in Egypt, which Western Egyptologist choose to overlook, quite simply becuase not to do so would destroy their hiden agenda to wrongfully and maliciously deny credit for ancient Egptian civilisation due to Black Negroid people. They would rather give the credit to present day Egptians than to black negroid Africans.
As for the "Beads and Spear" story narreted by the Bishop, ie conflict between Gipiir and Labongo, I believe that it is not a myth as some people may be inclined to think so. It is oral history. The Chollo people in Upper Nile Province have their own similar version of the event. In fact it is on record that a prominent Luo elder from Kenya, Mzee Apollo Ohanga came to Uganda in 1946 to visit that point of separation ( aka Wang-wat-lee) in West Acholiland.
In fact, if anything it is the existence of the Chwezi people that has been called into question by at least two very imminent Historians:
The French Historians Jean-pierre Chretien in his book, "The Great Lakes of Africa" found that among the Karagwe people in Northern Tanzania (who are related to the Bahima) that the Bachwezi were "purely supernatural people" who allegedly dropped from the sky.
Another very eminent scholar of history of the Great Lakes Region of Africa Fr J P Crazollara, perhaps the most reputed writer of Central Luo History (three volumes) dismisses the idea entirely, for lack of collaborative evidences.
@Paul Kilama JP Crazollara was an agent of the colonialist government. In fact all the missionaries were working to write against each and every ethnic group, they informed their governments about the strengths and weakness of each group so governments can figure out how to fight the people to date. Luo/Lwo being the people of Israel, just study the culture especially all the customs which the colonial missionaries forcefully outlawed. Also see how kids were beaten at schools that they should not speak the Lwo /Luo language, it was for some hidden reason that authorities knew.
This is amazing additional information!
At the onset the Bishop is not right .
Such initiatives needs researchers and not criteria of age to profess knowledge ladit loum
The oldest humans where discovered in East Africa in oldivai George and this have not been contested by the white man.so the assertion that luos where in Israel is absolutely wrong .
After the big bang the world drifted and the white man lost his colour from black because of lack of sun.
So how were blacks again in Israel 2000 year ago.
It is true that the Egyptian civilization is the blackmans civilization(the kushites,) and I guess Luos where a component of kushites (not researched)
So it's a good initiative and I pray I would be annually and we invite researchers on specifics topics.
You need to invite CJ and even Fr.Dr okumu
Regards loum
Honestly I don't really see white people in hot climates changing back to black 😕 im not a scientist but how long being in the sun would it take for them to regain melanin 🤔 without mixing DNA
OO I like your point of argument but I think you were basing your reasoning on the white men's presumptive or distorted history. I am more convinced with the Bishop's narrative of the names of places given by the Bishop.
This should also teach us (African and Luo) that our history belongs to us and not the narrative and/or interpretation of the whites.
Think of "Ka tum" "pa Bit" etc.
@@thekobs9839 so what evidence is there to show the luo were is in Israel ?
At which point did we/they loose/gain our skin colour?
Ths linguistic tools of comparison the Bishop is using is not sufficient to draw inferences and academic conclusions.
Eg saying Khartoum is a place to get finished, or Cairo a place of smoke .
The same is what okwera Jaria said ok radio one that Italy is "kit tal ango".in luo when where the luos I Italy?
That approach is not sustainable in academia or epistemology.
In any case there on 26/27 letters of the the alphabet so words are destined to be similar.
To draw inferences and conclusions from your perspective only in academia is called bigotry eg we say the monkey is not putting on clothes while from the other end the monkey laughs at human that we can't stand cold by putting on clothes .
All arguments have two or more sides but using the globally acceptable tool of analysis even if "euro centric" is a prerequisite to modern day knowledge not just age brother. . That is why all space scientists have to be recognised by NASA, you can't fly from opololacen my village in pader to the moon NASA will not allow because there is already an acquired body of knowledge in the area so.you have to go and present your case to them on the new area.
The Bishops submission is oral tradition and hearsay and it has to to corroborated with other tools like: research, physical features.
A quick test I agree the pyramids is luo/kushites Civilization why ? It can be traced down the Nile as you get smaller pyramids.That is evidence that can stand without oral tradition
Thanks alot.
THE WRITER IS A PHD CANDIDATE
IN PHILOSOPHY OF LAW
UNIVERSITY OF BARCELONA
@@odongaotto3116 Almost all of us had the names of our forefathers in the bible before the missionaries came. Why is this since we did not have the white man's bible? The cultural practices, check all of the things in church and find out if they are in the bible that the white missionaries or Muslims brought. Our culture is in the bible but not their cultures. What the missionaries and colonialist destroyed are the cultures of the bible which were given to people of Israel. As for writings, we had different ones to what they brought, we had our own system of writing. We lived in Turkey also which is why so many Lwo words are in Turkey shops, with same meaning to date. We migrated all over the place because of war.
Great comments Ladit
This history does not tie up with the history of Egypt. Egyptian History with pharaohs dates back to 6000 BC, so the luo history just dating back 400 years ago cannot claim credit for egyptian heritage.
Just because you have not understood it and you are saying Luo only started only 400 years ago?
@@Mrpwocberthe modern Luo yes but ancient Luos and Nilotic tribes in general indeed have their origins in ancient Egypt
@@thealisterr Luo are nilo-semitic
Tell him to stop the lie!!
These things have been researched already but it is you that needs to dig deeper, some evidence are in Universities, museums etc. It looks like goverments and religious inistitutions did not want people to know the turth, afterall billions of people deceived. All film industries lied that Jesus, Mary etc were europeans - not a single evidence to coroborate this.
So we originated from Jerusalem 🤔
I believe so
Bible confirms it 🙏 🙌
If the Pharaohs were Luo then we are not Jews we are the Egyptians who caused havok for Gods people
The dynasty of the pharaoh was overran by the Romans and greeks.
They ended up as the pharaohs
Wrong Dipir did not go to Kenya he went to Pakwac
Some words are fake need to do deep research
Totally lies actually
Who knows. We cannot deny until we ourselves do further research