Are the All Blacks too hot for South Africa to handle? | RWC 2023 final preview | After Hours
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2023
- In the last episode before the Rugby World Cup 2023 final, Johnnie Beattie is joined by Schalk Brits (South Africa), Justin Marshall (New Zealand), Danny Cipriani (England) and Dan Lyle (USA) to review the incredible RWC 2023 semi-finals and preview the highly anticipated final in Paris. The guys give their winning predictions, do you agree? All Blacks or Springboks? Let us know in the comments.
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Respect to the Boks from an AB's supporter. Can't think of a better final.
AB vs FRA would have been better. North vs South instead of the rugby championship
@@jasonsmith3573nah.
@@jasonsmith3573nah the greatest rugby rivalry is better
Respect brother from a Bok supporter. The Hakka always gives me goosebumps and the ABs are the team that gave the Bokke the will to go for glory!! Love both teams but GO BOKKE!!!
@@jasonsmith3573Nonsense. It's not our fault the North always chokes at the World Cup.
As a Springbok I am so happy to see us verse the All Blacks. I have so much respect for New Zealand rugby may the best team win. Its time for the big dogs to get going
🇳🇿🤝🇿🇦
To be honest. If the ABS win algud, but we can lose to the Boks and I can live with it. It's out greatest foe/friends.
@@RaymondSua-sh1xm I feel the same way I would rather lose to ABS instead of any other team especially in a world cup final.
I don't know who the favourite is. But don't think the game is a gimme for either side, I think it's pretty even. May the best team win.....it might be a pretty tough and exciting game.
And I too respect the long and illustrious rugby heritage between us. No one compares.
Hahahaha. The infamous lunch that Shimmy was talking about with Smit where they carried Marshall out. Marshy is absolutely wearing that lunch from the previous day 😂😂😂, absolute legend.
I've met Marshy a couple of times. Top guy. Always willing to chat rugby. I hope he doesn't play poker (for his sake) cos he will say exactly what he thinks
Never try to match drinks with the forwards 😂
Marshy loves to get sloshed. I've seen him couply times in the city stumbling to the nearest kebab shop.
Shimmy was 100% still drunk in thay podcast. Classic stuff
He's a bit of a dickhead actually. I know him from old.
I'm just so blessed to see the greatest teams in the final... 🇿🇦
Love reading the comments and seeing the love between us Kiwis and our friends from South Africa. Seems like the mutual respect reaches much further than the footy field and not too many other sports can say that about their fans. I am willing my ABs to win but I can accept defeat to the Bokke.
The all black are the best team ever so any south african fan naturally will have to respect the mighty all blacks we're probably second best team ever
@@gunner4life568 what ever helps you sleep at night
@@brianjunior9289 it helps me sleep as a bok fan because I appreciate the all blacks as a team and a rugby country
I just love Schalk, sitting there and listning, smiling ❤
I’ve never heard Danny Cipriani speak at length and I’m very impressed. What a clever and nice dude.
He's a lot better when he isn't talking about English or his experiences. His analysis on the international game is insightful.
I've heard him talk on a different show about what a fly half should be doing....all the other pundits were gob smacked at how articulate and almost, poetic he was and how his thought process went. He is remarkable they way he says the game.
@@MrDumile Do you remember the show? I just saw analyzing the semi-finals and was really impressed as well.
@@mateo9912 It was the BBC Rugby Union Daily podcast for 14 March 2022 but I was checking and it's not available anymore on the actual site but you can keep looking across all other different podcast sources
I was amazed by the comments about Rassie. He took a team that was down an out in 2017 and in 18 months won the Rugby championship , the World Cup , won the Lions series with virtually no prep due to COVID , and could be the first team to win 4 world cups defending the crown. Farrel , a great coach sure , however got to the quarter finals of the World Cup . Fozzie has dismantled the AB aura . The French coach … quarter final exit. Rassie has to deal with a complex political situation , quotas etc . He took racism completely out of the boks setup , got the whole of SA behind the team , quotas are no longer a factor in the Bok setup as Rassie has developed stars from the non white community and hence the whole of SA now fully backs the boks. On top of all that are the unbelievable results in the World Cup. Beating one of the best French sides in their own country was immense . Beating the ABs by a record score a month ago was amazing . There is no other coach that comes close to comparison with Rassies results .
Overrated
@@Trajan2401Troll
Justin Marshall looks like he had a good time. Hangover deluxe.
Never Underestimate "The Springboks"..!! They have incredible resilience coupled with an innate ability to Dig Just a little bit Deeper and Hold on a little bit Longer, tapping every last ounce of their formidable reserves of energy, that few can match. Also remember that each and every Springbok player knows only too well, that every time they don the hallowed "Green and Gold", they are playing for every on of 63 million odd South Africans at home and their legion of fans across the globe. Now for the first time ever, under the inspirational captaincy of the Heroic SIYA KOLISI, the Springboks are getting huge support from other African nations. That is Huge Motivation....! " GO BOKKE.."!!
And yet ABs will still beat them
another perspective is they struggled to beat a poor side who played well and totally dominated them. They scraped to two one point wins that they could very easily have lost. They are lucky to be in the final but it will take more than just luck to beat New Zealand.
@@Vae07let's wait for the final no excuses
we are well over 100 million people by real life statistics , remember 1 in 3 south africans are not counted , and africa as whole supports springboks like over 2 billion people, oceana is very small, springboks will never lose to new zealand in world cup finals
@@jasonsmith3573so springboks thrashed all blacks last time they met they beat France who beat nz so its okay all blacks are favorite
Marshall is still cut! Schalk has a nice clear head.
Springboks are still favourites for me even though I’m a kiwi (living in London).
As a South African and Sprinbok supporter im just going to wish for an awesome game from the powerhouses of world rugby!! Just glad to see a Haka being perfomed is so beautiful and scary and emotional and hoping for an epic and a boks win!!
You sound emotionally all over the place
Hope not
Haka is a way to celebrate entertain,welcome and lay down a challenge to the other team.I always look forward to watching the Haka before games.
There is a famous photograph of Danie Craven (yes: THE Doc Craven) carrying a Māori kid on his shoulders after the Springboks defeated the All Blacks in 1932. It has always epitomized the spirit of rugby to me.
I've never seen that photo but I'm sure going to Google it. Thanks!!
1937
On the shoulders of giants………the young kid did get a look at the springbok playbook for the next test and they one that……somehow the all blacks had figured out all the lineout secret calls
"There will be a black Springbok over my dead body"- Dannie Craven 1969
@@sakhilevanqa3178 he said that? Sheesh
KWAGGA SMITH has been the best player of the tournament!
It feels good having a bench that can actually change the game? Bokke all the way. Expecting an even tougher battle Saturday.
Ardie savea might have something to say about that.
Eben
Beast mode. Power and a mean engine.
Regarding Will Jordan's record I think there are three key words for context: Italy, Uruguay, and Namibia.
Respect to the All Blacks from a Bokke supporter. This is what rugby dreams are made of, Springboks vs All blacks in a rugby world cup final and just like in 95 as a teenager i am nervous but I believe. Lets go Bokke.
Schalk Brits is a true gentleman.
Fantastic ambassador for SA rugby
It felt as if I have just had the privilege to share a beer with you brilliant guys.❤
In spite of the downside of social media, I genuinely feel that the relationship between SA and NZ has shone through nicely.
Hahah Marshy my boy, still passed lol love it. Happens when you try and keep pace with John Smit 😂
Rassie deserves more praise. He selected Siya as captain, something even the former black coached never had the balls to do. He picked Mampimpi, a player with no rugby school history, from a township, as the main winger. The first time ever we saw an all black front row in a world cup (Beast, Bongi, Trevor) was under Rassie. I know people will say I’m being political, but no one has ever used the demeaning word “quota” since Rassie took over because he showed everyone that we are all South Africans and rugby is not reserved for a certain race. I think he deserves an order of something by the President.
LOVE LOVE Danny in this Pod. I just love the holistic approach, but the essence of peace and kindness is just amazing. And in rugby that’s important…lets get aggressive in the game, but remember were respect is derived. (Ps: I’m not English).
he's such a great contributor and does his homework. so. many of these panels is just a chat at the bar
Saffa here , we only have huge respect for the AB's. The historical win percentage they have over us proves their worth. That being said, anything can happen on the day.
Best of luck to my Boks. Hope it's a great game from two amazing teams. Cheers 🍻
Springbok here, I’m very nervous for this one. There is so much at play when you consider who will win. Springboks have the history, the All Blacks have the pedigree. I also think NZ are better rested and that could be telling come Saturday. My gut tells me NZ - but then again, Springboks have never lost a World Cup final and this group is looking to go back to back. We’ve had two tough weeks and you just wonder whether or not we still have enough bullets in the clip to go again. My view is, we need to freshen up the team and be bold in our selections. For example, Kitshoff off the bench, not because of the hype around Ox but he hasn’t looked himself in the last two games. Either way, this will be a massive game
Boks have nothing further to prove to me....😂
Bokke🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂
Justin still hammered 😂😂😂 kunch is still going in his mind..
Mzansi Afrika 🇿🇦
Groen 💚en goud 💛 for life
Justin Marshall saying "kak" is everything to me...
It is going to be a Tough one!! But we have to give credit to the Boks defence . Think that will get them through
Bokke defence and forwards will kill us- our weakest player and captain is a passenger- we already down to 14
I'm such a Die Hard Boks fan, but if we lose this final, I won't be disappointed. So much respect for the All Blacks and their fans.
Marshal looks freaking done bro 😂
Ropey AF 😂
He is hammered right there
Listen to the Boksoffice interviews with Shimmy. The lunch last 12 hours and they had to carry Marshy home. Legends.
Marshal needs to realize that alcohol is not his friend. Its the very reason he no longer has a spot on the nz rugby panel nor is he included in the commentary box. In a drunken state he disgraced himself in front of the current AB playing members at a public function. Good riddance.
@@montywilson9078 we love him in SA and find he is better than our commentators.
Bundi Aki was awesome for ireland best inside centre in the world on current form .
Aki has never seen a ruck he couldn't join from the side
Settle down. He had two good runs the whole tournament.
Jordie better
Aki is Irish??
@@Zion66666Aki is an expatriate kiwi
As a bok supporter the dirst name that came to mind about coaches is warrwn gatland! What he did with wales was phenomenal and then leaves and comes back a few mobths before a world cup with a team lost amd still made them leave with their heads held high
As a South African living in California. I can't wait for the IRB rugby world cup in America.
“That’s a buffalo by the way”. Bwahahahah! Marshall you bloody legend. Too bloody funny.
Yes fully agree with that statement ": They found a way to win." That's the sign of a great team, that flexibility to adjust to the game at hand. I have not seen the ABs exposed to that situation yet. So Go the Boks
all blacks only beat ireland that has no record in world cups, i dont think they have temperament to defeat springboks, they wont win , they will lose to springboks because they play for 4 million new zealanders whereas springboks plays for 100 million south africans globally
@kingfluenx Population numbers mean jack. Both teams are playing for their nations rather proudly. We had a great qtr against a great Irish side and seem to have sorted out our defense the boks were terrible in their semi and if you look at it England lost that game not the other way round. The Boks look tired and I don't think they have another 1 pt win left in them. Got a good feeling the ABs will get up in the end. Dream final and it should be a banger let's go!!!
@@kingfluenxwtf has populations got to do with this seriously btw it's not 4 million it's 5 million...Also do you think that's stopped them from winning 3 world cups😂.....I've seen some stupid comments but this one takes the cake
@@kingfluenxonly beat Ireland who SA have lost to the last 3 games 😂
@@kingfluenxthere are more All Blacks fans worldwide than Springboks. Look at the brand value to begin with
Can't wait for tomorrow night. It will be monsterous, a gladiator style fight for glory on the pinnacle stage for every warrior trying to accomplish his dreams. What legends are Schalla and Marsh and to know that the comradery is healthy is such a awesome feeling. Congratulations on making the final to both teams, good luck and good health. May the best team win
ABs supporter here. 5mins in this podcast i just want touch base on everyone's opinions about SA's. Yes England should of won due to the stats however from my point of view i believe SA deserve that win to sheer grit and courage in themselves. statics present facts about outcome how well did the team preform during certain sets/phases but that's the critical side of it, we must take in the account of having faith within themselves. i see it as how we got demolished by you guys before the cup and losing to Ireland. so i believe having faith is that 1% when 99% was given to the opponents guarantee to win(evening though nothing in sports guaranteed) so at this coming week it will be a great game and i pray ABs come out on top but we never underestimate SA despite the stats and what not. may the best team win. so ill continue to watch the rest cheers. GO THE ABs!
So fun and informative to be a part of you guys conversation.
From NZ..Good luck to both teams...I'm glad we both in the finals together .. , Go ABz ..
Fun panel. Thanks fellas.
Go boks.
I honestly can't call it, this is gonna be a banger!!!!
Every single pod this week we've seen the guys management serious hangovers🤣🤣🤣
Rassie made being on the bench look cool!!
Cant wait for the final. At least it will be a rugby game against ABS and not a kicking competition. 🇿🇦 we love rugby. Nothing brings our country to unity like our Springboks. The prayer power behind them is another factor ❤️🇿🇦🏆
Brothers look CLEARLY hungover
19:07 😂 gotta love justin
Springboks fan. I love AB so much. I respect AB
Great show and great comments from all involved, bokke to hold on one more time after the battle to get to final...let's see but going to be a good final, so much to play for, I think motivation will not be lacking from both teams!... good luck AB's, let's get there bokke, we salute you 🇿🇦
Aged beautifully, dont ever write off a bok
The ABs always bring out 150% from us , and the we bring the same out of them. Huge respect and blood , sweat and tears. May the best team win. Go boks
Nothing better than having my morning coffee followed by poached eggs while watching endless chat about the upcoming cup final . Thanks guys
Well done schalk only guy who predicted Boks
Wishing both teams all the best in the finals
We'll do our talking on the field! Of all the teams in the Rugby World Cup, I wanted the Springboks to play either the All Blacks or Fiji in the Finals ... 2 teams I really respect! So, may the best team win on the day!
As a Kiwi I'm so glad Marshall wasn't selected in the commentary team for NZ Sky. He's such a peacock "look at me look at me listen to me. I know this, I played with him. Me me me" oh zip it champ.
Mo'unga didn't get white-line fever. He knew Jordan was there and would have scored... and he knew that Jordan would have gone into the final with the record already in the bag. Far better to leave him looking for the try that takes him to the pinnacle in the final.
Mo'unga knew exactly what he was doing.
finally someone smart
Obviously the ABs are playing for Fozzy as well. In Steve Hanson's words, ts the great relationship that a coach must have with his players for them to be a winning team. So I think Fozzy is doing great !
The two most consistent teams in the world currently and historically. Both have lost games in the past few seasons but amazing consistency from them. I hope the game can deliver as when two powerhouses play it does not always turn out that way. Hope we see plenty of try's, lots of open running rugby and not to much kicking. I think the scrums and lineouts will be powerhouse plus on both sides.
As a Kiwi of course I want the All Blacks to win but really just want to see a contest to remember. 🤞
That's what's making us so good we never give up till the final whistle 🇿🇦🏆
Guys, you seem to have had less faith in NZ than we did in South Africa. The general consensus given the draw that this would always be the final. Remember that we won in 2019 coming off the back of a horrendous 2 years of rugby, we get each other and respect the climb to come back.
I love seeing ex boks and abs players hanging out and all the others. Ill be wtching the game with my kiwi mates, im a kiwi and a few bok supporters also its great
I wouldn’t worry about the weather. The ABs have had some of the best results in the wet
I start to pay really attention to rugby now, and what a beautiful sport it is! I mean, I´ve watch before, but now I´m paying really attention. Still have some difficult to full understand the rules, some expressions used, etc, but, common... what a sport! Go Portugal!! eheheheheh
Good luck to New Zealand and South Africa next Saturday!!
Great show, good insight with honest and respectful opinions. Thank you
Very happy that the two best teams are in the final.
Should the Springboks go on to win this final , (which I believe they will) I cannot think of a team that deserves it more, after the high level of competition that they have had to go through in this World Cup to get there.
KAK, loved that from Marshy 😂. Regarding coaches, what Rassie's done for the game is huge. Upcoming coach I rate is Oghara, interesting to see if he ends up coaching Ireland or another national side swoop him up before that. Must admit though, his such a patriot cant see him coaching anyone but Ireland.
The entire world wrought off this ABs side. Except South Africans who always knew you don't underestimate the old foe. The whole world thought Ireland would definitely beat them.
The final Kiwis & South Africans really wanted & the one the game needs.
Omg, an All Blacks/Springboks WC final, the two legitimate rugby superpowers of world rugby.
It’ll be an epic match, it’s going to be bruising, but you have to think New Zealand. No matter what’s thrown at them, they just seem to find something else. South Africa are tough, hard and so are the All Blacks, I think it’s going to come down to the onfield brains trust. I think the All Blacks have an edge there.
It will be a Mighty showdown between these two countries for sure. Cant wait for gameday.
All the best 💯
Marshy still seems half pissed lol
not half getting towards fully lol
Absolutely
Just loved this, how come I only found this channel now, towards the end of the of the wc?!
Justin still making some sense despite still being mangled.
The two best teams in the world. This game is going to be next level. Rematch of 95.
JUSTIN MARSHALL REMINDS ME WHEN I WAS 21 🤣😂🤣. LONG NIGHTS OF NON-STOP DRINKING 🍺
As an ABs fan, the SA v ENG game was much more edge of your seat stuff. SA undid what England did to the ABs in the last RWC, where the ABs were smothered.. Well done to SA for getting up to another hard game.
Schalk Brits is a true South African.
Guys if the English were so good and had the game in the bag WHY DID THEY NOT have the scoreboard LIT!!BOKKE all way !!
Let them have the game in the bag for 4th place...and may they lose that too.
Was never in the bag but they did very well to be nullifying South Africa up until that point. All credit to the Bokkes for scoring more points by the final whistle though
Is Justin drunk or hungover ?
@@maffrosehave you not been listening?
@@Joker-yw9hl Remember Englsnd knocked the All blacks out of the semis last WC. England aint no average team that can just be rolled over.
Marshall is amazing in this episode
We won the All Blacks 5weeks ago... just before the World Cup. But the Springboks are the underdogs... Amazing how that works
Haven't seen Justin looking so seedy, that's an All Black running on empty lol. Nobody can call this, what it will come down to is preparation and the will to win.
As this world cup has gone on The ABz have grown into this competition, and look where they are now on the brink of making history. Kia Kaha Kia Maia Kia Manawanui.
Tautoko!!
This set is very well lit, congratulations to the DOP
The Gaffer lights the place. Guve respect where it's due bro.
Marshall looks like he’s had a huge, socially lubricated RWC.
Marshall is drowning in bitter sweet sorrow for being thrown off the NZ commentary panel. His bitterness is clearly on display. He's become an annoying drunk.
As a Bok supporter,I like it when we go in as underdogs.
Thats when the Wounded Bok becomes fearsome.
Watch out for a wounded Bok
Go Bokke.
Good luck New Zealand ,i would rather loose to you Guys than any other team
I am a springbok through and through but i cannot shake the feeling that All Blacks is lifting this cup 🇿🇦win or lose am supporting die Bokke 🇿🇦🏉🏉
They not its a final brahh when it matter the most in a neutral fan base stadium physicality and mentality which springboks have will make them win that battle so springboks
Loosing mentality is not what springbok have ,are u really a south African
@@brianaluwani7642 he is not
Anybodies game either side could put a 20 point win on each other and any result along that spectrum.
Justin talks so much and he looks pretty hammered
59 million v 5million goe the mighty ABs
Good luck pal. But remember, rugby isn’t the biggest sport in SA. (Despite what the media might say). Kickball and basketball are growing rapidly..
@@simoncrawley9525no excuse you have way more players than NZ
@@simoncrawley9525Hockey and Softball wouldn't even make NZs top 10 sports yet theyve been world champions in both of them
You are forgetting alot of fundamentals here of my point. Both sports you raised as examples are of those in an advantageous and proviliged positions. Yes, I'm saying those not generally accessible to first world children. So get off your horse and accept the point I raised.
26:59 I spat my coffee out! 😄
I love Rassie. I'm from the rest of the world 🌎
Marshy has a lil Bokke accent goin on here. A combination of hanging with the Bok legends and a hangover 😂😂
May the best team win, hoping for an exciting, close final, Go Bokke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Danny Cipriani is a really likeable guy, and he’s got great insight.
This is gonna be a final for the record books, as Saffa I could not want a better final, the biggest rivalry in rugby on the biggest international stage, its been a long time coming which ever teams win they both are deserving of the title, both teams weren't put in the next to win it, both teams were seen as underdogs, but you can never count out these 2 great teams, all the best to both teams, hoping we come out tops.
ABs go in as underdogs in these finals. The Boks beat us at Twickenham, heading into the start of the RWC. Win or lose, i will still be really proud of our ABs, supporting you all the way. Go the mighty ABs 👊👊❤❤
I don't think so pal, we're tired, scraping wins in the dying seconds while your lads steam roll. You guys are the favourites and the ones who should take it easily. 😉
I do not think anyone can be a favourite in a wc final tbh
@daggaboom lol...don't tell me buddy, tell the 15 lads on the field and Rassie running around like a headless chook. Remember, your team are ranked 1st now, lol
@@daggaboomyou really think the Bokke can’t lift themselves for a WC final?
Nah pal springboks are tired we barely beat england all blacks have this in the bag might as well rest a few players expect a sub standard performance from the boks this weekend ,all blacks are heavy favorites against our tired and demorolized bok side racial accusations riddled our week totally demoralized
"That's a buffalo by the way" 🤣😅🤣😂🤣😅
I loved that -Justin Marshall helping Schalla out with a South Africanism when Schalla was trying to find a word for a team’s poor performance … “kak!” the New Zealander proffered - lovely stuff 😂😂😂
That and Marshy calling buffalo on Barcs 🤣
Game of the century loading - perhaps of all time! (on paper anyway).
Hang in there Marshy. Straight to rehab next week 😂
What I believe why Rassie and Nienaber are best is that they are winners too over and above all else mentioned...
feel like Rassie has undermined his players by early player rotation no one likes being pulled early it pisses them off, but hey, who knows.Wait and see
Looking for a dry field and a good contest. Rest up boys and well done to both sides