How the Springboks won the World Cup | South Africa's strategy explained
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2023
- "New Zealand, they played some great rugby but they made a huge amount of unforced errors and that gave Pollard the opportunity...that was the difference between the two teams that Pollard 50 meter kick and that came from South African pressure."
South Africa might not be the best team in the world but they have cracked the World Cup strategy, Stuart Barnes tells Stig Abel on #timesradio
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France and Ireland were incredible. That French game vs SA was the best game I have ever seen.
As a Bok fan I almsot died 4 times during that game, oh and 2 weeks after that as well😂😂
@@henkstols9326 I am in heaven, I died after watching that game. Tell my family that I love them.
It’s so awful that the Springboks get accused of being what England currently is. Personally, I love the fact that each country plays their own style - I think it makes the sport richer and more interesting. But this Springbok team gave this tournament everything - at times tactical, and times clever and at times bloody brilliant. But of course, because we don’t play New Zealand’s basketball style of rugby, no suddenly it’s “bad for rugby” that the Springboks won. Such sour grapes.
The saltiness was palpable from the very first sentence!
Pieter Stef du Toit made 28 tackles in that game not one of them was high. Shannon Frizell (spelling) was more deserving of a red card. Firstly the neck roll and then falling onto the jackelers leg. Given the skill level of these players that’s a clear professional foul all day long. Getting Bongi off the park was a definite strategy of the AB’s.
As the laws change, the coaches adapt. SA changed a few years ago when they realised breaking the laws will cost you the game. By and large SA play with excellent discipline. Regrettably other nations have been coaching "this is what you'll get away with". I don't think the right message has been spread through NZ. Cane knew he was taking a risk with the cheap shot, and he didn't get away with it.
@@BooklessT Must be the didtance, takes longer to post the Rugby Laws to NZ
New Zealand are cheats when they’re not on top
I agree with you. The tackle on Bongi was intentional. NZ wanted to get Bongi off the field at all costs. To me it was a clear red. Frazell was very lucky. The TMOs in the bunker took a long time to come to a decision. That tells you that they were very close to changing the yellow to a red.
Nz inc are cheats. Fact. Don’t trust the woke left. Wolves in sheep’s clothing. My father used to sell donkey biltong as springbuck at the local pub. The brandewein induced Dutchmen took a while to catch up but when they did….
50% strike rate for South Africa in World Cups. 4 wins in 8 tournaments. Incredible
SPRINGBOKS won 4 world cups finals out of 4 world cups 💯 percent record in world cup finals
You need to check your facts. SA have played four rugby world cup finals and won four from four = 100% win rate. No other rugby nation has achieved either 4/4 wins or 100% win rate.
Also, the "world cup" for rugby did not apply for the first two cups in 1987 and 1991. South Africa were not allowed to play those cups. Which means New Zealand ("winner" 1987) and Australia ("winner" 1991) did not actually win rugby "world" cups.
@@HamishBanish I'm referring to rhe fact that south africa has reached world cup final 4 and south africa has won all 4 world cup final matches they played in
All blacks reached 5 world cup final matches only winning 3 of that rugby world cup final matches all blacks lost in world cup final matches 95 and 2023
Also the only team to win a World Cup in Africa as well as a World Cup in Asia
@@dragouws and won 2 world cups in Europe
This team is hands down the greatest ever!! We won the World Cup missing key players, tired from the grueling route to the final, with fewer rest days, but still we won. Magic!!!
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Definitely, understrength team actually.
Yes was team effort only thing that explain boks missing 42 tackles against France and scoring more tries as players gave 110% to team and helped team mate when team made mistakes plus RASSIE turned bench into badge of honour with bomb squad every player knew they get chance to play
stop making excuses for Abs they lost, we won..... 14 men, 15 men, they lost, whether a red card or not who knows? except defeat and stop being jealous!!!!
@leevanrheede9242 I think you sent to the wrong thread.✌🏿
And who must have been there. Naas Botha, Breyten Paulse?????
Springbok Doesn't play to entertain they play to win. And that is more than entertaining but fulfilling.
Boks don't play entertaining rugby!
Yet
Stadia are FULL when the boks play
I think we play whats needed to win, against France we proved this and then another example would be England. I reckon this team is greater than the AB 2011/2015 squad as they adapt immensely and coaching wise are unmatched. If you look at all great teams going into a WC very few could still bounce back at the end to win games. Even the most dominant teams in the knock out stages couldn't bounce back like the 2019 AB against England and were strangled by defence.
@@dragouws For Example Tyson and Ali . One don't entertain just knock you down in seconds. Ali play around to entertain wich is exhausting sometimes.
Springboks SELL OUT STADIUMS whereever they play in Sa, NZ or anywhere else - All Blacks DON'T!
The Springboks play entertaining rugby. They have it all. powerful forwards and a dangerous backline. Their defense is immense as well, the best actually.
The AB did not lose the match because of the red card or because of the officials. The AB lost because of two missed kicks which amounted to five points. The Boks lost to Ireland for the same reason - missed kicks! Robert, South Africa.
Well said!
@@mcsnapplesInteresting analysis - it certainly does explain the lack of tries in those critical games - NZ and Ireland.
15 All Blacks beat 15 Springboks.
9 times out of 10 we score more tries than Springboks.
The All Blacks really scored two tries to nil.
The TMO was most influential person of the match.
@@markrutherford6010 LOL no. NZ scored zero tries as they passed foward TWICE😂
Be a sport and accept defeat
@@NoName-hg6cc 15 All Blacks beat 15 Springboks every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
There was no forward pass.Only South African would say that.TMO with 100 cameras at every angle does not miss chance crucify the All Blacks.That is two tries to nil.
Some grey haired wisdom and actual analysis of the game. So rare to hear in the NH media.
Even when the host tries to drag him into the normal NH Boks bashing... he stays on the point and analysis.
Thank you sir. 😊
I very much agree!! Brilliant analysis
Springboks might not always play “the best rugby” but they play the most adaptable and varied rugby than any other team and are excellent with the basics. If you don’t like that you will have a sad 4 years.
I would say that no team can play the variety of styles that SA can.
We play very good rugby, we just don't play it at World Cup's. World Cups are knock outs
We did play well. The best game of the tournament was us vs France. We added to the incredible game and took nothing away @@TheLinzitoPodcast
Definitely the most adaptable but "the best rugby" is rugby that wins games. The Springboks are 100% capable of playing the most attractive rugby and also grinding out a war. It's also a bit of a counter intuitive statement when pundits and commentators talk about the "best rugby" because they're only talking about attacking and mostly backline play. That's great for sevens but in test match rugby you also need be able to scrum, maul, kick for points, control the game and defend. The fact the Springboks are the best defensively, control the game the best, scrum the best, and probably maul the best, while probably not being the best attacking team but certainly not too far off the best makes them the best overall. Scrums, lineouts, rucks, and mauls are technical and when done right are interesting to watch and make the game varied and exciting. Rugby was never meant to be pretty
@@Brendan_M_ couldn’t have said it any better. Spot on.
South Africa played brilliantly with what they had left in the tank after a hard fought path in the world cup. Every game every team had missed chances .. final score matters. Lovely watching tries being scored but its lovelier to see a winning score on the board imo as a spectator. In the end its just a ballgame but here at home it feels good to have won. Well done bokke .. lets try for five with three on the trot 🇿🇦
I think the thing that many commentators dont get is that the Springboks are all about the team, and the individual players are there to do their brilliant best - for the team. Then their pure determination to win showed through. We beat the best teams when it mattered. We delivered when we needed to. So who played the best rugby is irrelevant. Its called a competition for a reason. And we won. And not just for the sake of winning, but for a higher purpose, for what it means to to the country. That gets my utmost admiration and respect. There is a greatness to this Bok team that many people dont see.
"Hulle weet nie, wat ons weet nie" - Our boys know who they are playing for and can thankfully drown this out...
These pundits are merely stuck in the "How dare Africa?" Stuck in their colonial racist thinking.
The Springboks play for the whole of Africa..
It's not a mistake.SA rugby players are winners and SA support them.Even if they lost, we were still going to welcome them as heroes at the airport.I am a black person and I love rugby
@@MeriamDemana-ts1wz we love the boks and they belong to Africa..
The truth of the matter is that team for team, these Springboks are just better, but not only that, they are master tacticians, this is what running rugby only people don’t get, the Boks excel in all versions but just know which variation works better.
Geez. So there are actually Gods living on the planet earth
And there names are Springboks. Aren’t you lucky
One thing though. If they really are so smart and great, how come in the Freedom Cup - head to head with your biggest rival - SA has only won it 4 times, but that other team has beaten you 11 times?
Because most times south africa seem not to be in the game. They seem absent but when it matters they switch it on. Many times they seem listless in games. Switched of. Then I know no matter what they are gonna lose. Then all of a sudden they switch on in the last 20, 10 minutes of the game.
Since 2018 the record between NZ and ZA is:
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DRAW 1
Would be nice if Rugby pundits watched some Rugby.
Don't expect much from the NH lot....
So correct 👏👌about England 🤮
England didn't play any rugby in that semi-final either. At least the Springboks scored a try. But England played that game very well tactically and no NH pundits complained about it. It's unbelievable how one-eyed NH pundits and commentators are.
In fact, they celebrated England's performance and gameplan, which was get the ball to Owen Farrell for an up and under 90% of the game
Actually, the Boks record is not that inferior against the all blacks recently. Over the last 5 years, both teams have a 50% win rate against each other. New Zealand went through a dynasty from 2010 to 2017 and won a lot, but over our history, we have tended to match each other.
I believe that we respect them enough. But have learned to put our foot down, and challenge that we can beat them. And we do
For the 1st 76 years out of 102 South Africa had won more games than the All Blacks. Only in 1997 did they overtake us in more victories.....
@@davidshekleton9908it was actually in the early 2000’s
@@kalaharikreef7371if you count the victories on Wikipedia, it was either 1996 or 1997 as David says..
South Africa vs All Blacks overall. Played 103: NZ won 60. South Africa won 40. Three matches drawn.
Aaah, that’s so nice to hear 😊
Thank you for the lovely comments on the springboks
From a springbok fan we also find this bunch to be quite special. Something different.. down to earth.. lads who wear their hearts on their sleeves. Wholesome and honest. It’s hard to believe. But it’s true. Refresheningly true
I must say looking at all the media around the world one gets the feeling that if it was SA that got the red card (at the cane card) everyone would have accepted it and would have said thats the rules so sorry SA! I think most people just dont like SA winning and most want ABs to win…
But if roles were reversed it would have just been “well done ABs you are once again the best…”
Agree. Suddenly NZ was merely 'unfortunate' and no mention of the ill discipled easy journey to the final - hardly hear credit that boks were effective. Sickening.
Yep, remember, ABs are backed by massive American money that promotes and markets the " Brand". Truth is the pendulum swinging back to where it was from 1928 to 1996, Boks Champion rugby team in the world. Oh wait, it has been the Champion team in the world since 2019
I would disagree, a red card early ruins the game.
Just take off your springbok eye patch for a moment.Nobody is taking away your victory.
TMO decisions are not the Springboks fault at all.But is fact TMO decided outcome of that match.
World rugby needs make sure this never happens again.I know NZ rugby is lobbying World Rugby that this never happens again.
We cannot have game refereed by replay.
@@markrutherford6010 TMO only decided the outcome of the match in your AB eye patched mind.
You have no idea what the outcome would have been without it.
Not as though TMO rulings were only questionable w.r.t the ABs.
Safety is important, but, imo, there should be a difference in sanction between rugby incidents and reckless play and malicious intent. Say Kolisi vs Cane...
Cane did what he always does and had already KO’d Henshaw in Dublin with the same exact technique.. now that he has a red for it maybe he will finally learn his lesson.
yes....no discipline...but we have to blame someon....
Isn’t odd that Endlands “best” performance was a kicking game.When the Boks kick,the whiny pathetic northern hemisphere media call it boring 🤡
You missed something, mate
Explaining what is either whining or pathetic about not liking a kicking game. The Boks kick in way more than one bunch of poms.
Or is it more that - surprise surprise - the northern hemisphere media doesn’t heap adulation on everything the Boks do
Nearly all the whining - or more often derision that read about re rugby is from Boks fans on UA-cam.
You definitely win the World Cup on that, every time
@@richardgrant418
Thats a Big fucken lie Richard and u know it. We still hear we kick alot even though France and England has surpassed us now in kicking. But because were African and europe has fucken hubris we are fucken still known as a boring team. Sorry were not in ur almighty european clique.
6 to 8 week bans will actually help the Springboks win more titles as this will stress the squad depth more than it currently is. The Boks have the strongest depth and an even deeper player pool than any other team. Be careful what you wish for ...
.. and better discipline than NZ & England.
I'm very impressed by Stuart, always felt he had something against the Boks but to compliment in such detail the Boks is very touching. As Bok supporters we must be humble in our success like our team and only mention how great we are when we get drilled by other teams and they cast the first stone 😂😂😂
I'd love to see a review of defences at the world cup because I LOVE watching the big hits, dominant tackles, turnovers etc.
There is this fallacy that the whole world wants to watch Sevens/NRL running rugby only - many people actually love the tactical and defensive game. People throw shade on SA's attacking game don't realise that France and sometimes even NZ kick LOADS more than SA do. Finally, on the subject of low-scoring games... if this had been a 12-11 Final between France and Ireland then it would have been touted as the greatest achievement in rugby ever.
People's opinions are grounded in the expectations their teams failed to meet, rather than the actual reality of their performances.
NO MAN!! South Africa played TACTICAL RUGBY!
You CANNOT say SA did not play Rugby!!??
SA PLAYED RUGBY within the Rugby rules and won!
I have a massive new respect for Stuart Barnes.
Superb interview.
Suprised and delighted to hear Stuart Barnes say positive things about the Boks.
Both teams played the rugby. Tackling, defence and set piece are part of rugby last time I checked
Rugby in South Africa draws players and equally spectators from all classes . This depth of personal life experience and community responsibility is the driving force to they winning formula
No it is not. Diversity is a problem to manage. It is never an advantage. Rassie is just very good at managing it. Once he leaves it will be much harder again.
SA is strong due to playing numbers which has doubled in last 30 years. Nearly every other country has stagnated or decreased.
The current springbok rugby team is the best rugby team of all time, period. Not for individual players but for teamwork.
I find it quite interesting that on one side when certain teams win a coverted price are deemed the best while other teams do the unimaginable all kinds of excuses are sort not to give credit where it's due.
It starts in our school system....strong and packed with tradition and history. Long my it live.
How good do you need to be to get respect, even when you play 5 of the best teams in a row. England played no rugby against the Springboks and were lauded as being brilliant by keeping within 1 point. What is the deal with all the hate towards to Springboks. We beat France, at home and outscored them with tries. Scotland we played expansive rugby. All Blacks we defended them out of the game. Well rounded and well played in all games. Can run, can defend, can kick, can play knock out rugby in the rain. What more do they need to do
Let us look at the negative sides too, the Bokke did not have a very good line out game.
Fair point, the other teams will say we had the ref to thank but luck you make.
Stats are since 2018, Points SA 259 / NZ 251, SA 5 - NZ 5 wins and 1 Draw, Very inferior ? I think not.
Don't worry just another narcissistic pommie
@@rsabardoelectrical Indeed, Stuart is a professional rugby commentator, he glows when speaking about NZ, when the recent stats are basically the same, as in:
Since September 2018 the All Blacks and Springboks have played each other 11 times.
The All Blacks have won 5.
The Springboks have won 5.
One draw.
Of those 11 matches, 7 of them have finished within a 2 point margin, that’s 64% of the results determined by a single score.
The average points scored by the All Blacks is 22.8.
The average points scored by the Springboks is 23.5.
5 have been played at neutral venues.
3-2 to the Boks.
3 have been played in NZ
1-1 and a draw.
3 have been played in SA.
2-1 to the All Blacks.
If England had a record like this, he would be hailing them as the world's best.
Fantastic interview, Stuart Barnes is superbly level headed, respect.
Springboks acknowledge that the All Blacks are the best in the world ...and that's why they want to beat them... mutual respect there.
My issue is the that World Rugby has not reprimanded coaches and players from teams when they openly cristized the referee decisions...
Yet Rassie Erasmus was suspended when he made remarks about the referee decisions in the Lions tour.
The Springboks acknowledge no such thing. NZ is the most consistant team, BETWEEN World Cups. In the pressure cooker that is the Rugby World Cup, the greatest prize in rugby, the best team by a considerable margin are the Springboks..
I agree the French 1/4 final was a great game.
It only matter when the clutch games happens. You can lose all the others but when crunch time comes.
Boks beat France by 1
Boks beat England by 1
Boks beat NZ by 1
That’s 111
Take the scores 29-28, 16-15 & 12-11 and add them up = 111.
Angel Number 111 = Seeing the angel number 111 signifies confidence within yourself and motivates your own strength and decision-making when opportunities are sent your way ;)))
You are either super smart or have too much time on your hands
@@hlangaful I stole that from a classmate post. No credit to me LOL.
Cute!
@@kennith.Hectic... In cricket 111 is also referred to as Nelson. Ironically the Mandela Effect was at play in the final, where people saw and heard things that didn't happen. Lol
Your last comments about the humanity of the Boks was great to hear ;)) Thank you.
Nothing more beautiful than a good solid scrum dominating the opposition. With this setting up a maul, driving across the line is a thing of beauty in itself as is counter rucking. Only after this can the backs be set loose.
The style of running rugby produced in Super rugby or some of the pool games are in fact boring and not for the purist
After 3 1 point wins, back to back to back, you get the sense that rain, sun or snow, South Africa was going to win. It just felt like it was meant to be. Perhaps its the hubris of the moment. But sometimes one gets those feelings about a team in a certain period.
No mention of Eng's -ve play against SA (no try scoring effort/spoiling and officiating agitation) and or SA's never before seen difficult route to win (played 5 of the top teams) and how this compares with all the other teams. especially NZ. Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.
SPRINGBOKS STAND ALONE
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Hilarious to hear people say the team that played “rugby”. As if running is the only aspect of rugby.
so defense is not rugby ?
I understand them not want to ruin the spectacle with red cards, but I'm not sure anything less will demonstrate the rugby is trying to eliminate errors that can cause CTE.
Resoonse Q: has this approach worked? The stats show these incidents have increased since this red card for potential CTE injuries came in.
@@tsv8664they've increased because they're being pointed out now by the tmo. Where previously it was easy for a player to make red card tackles and go unnoticed purely because he's out of the refs line of sight
Very insightful from Barnes. Listen to the whole thing.
A replacement may open the door for a "punisher/bully" take out a key player only to be replaced by the better player, might get used tactically
100% this. Opens the door for very cynical play, and would be be questioned as well as bringing the have into disrepute should it happen.
It's weird as a Springboks fan (Not South African), To me the game looked very nice, I'm obviously biased. However, I do believe it's about perspective, and South African fans aren't the only biased people. All this looking at the game needs to be played like this and that is also biased against South Africa I'm sure. And surely rugby is such a good game because it's so diverse, go watch another sport if you want to see something else. - This is to the presenter's one section or comment, the overall conversation was nice and the guest was nice as well
Pollard also phenomenal tackler nothing gets past him
He missed 9 tackles in the final
@@philipgithae365Missing tackles is built into the Boks pressure game on defence. I wouldn’t read much into tackles missed.
Fantastic Podcast, Mr Barnes gave such a refreshing unbiased outlook🙏 In the end the goal was to win the final, and to do that we had to defend, not attack aka play rugby😊
Nicely said, it's about winning the cup
Rugby (and Cricket and football) isn't a private school thing in SA, especially not in the Western Cape. It isn't in NZ either. I have no idea why that one older guy said that.
SA didn't play any rugby? I thought tackling, scrumming, kicking, jumping, mauling , rucking were part of rugby? What were they playing then?
Not rugby apparently 😂
Top insight by Stuart Barnes. Yet all missed that by 2.33 Springboks missed 4 key players for the RWC campaign. I.E. lood de J, Amm, Pollard (Made the final) Marx and Mbonambi! Yet Boks adjusted.
Great show. And like most (and i'm South African) i thought it was so tough Cane was sent off .
Both teams played rugby mate - different but rugby.
"They (NZ) could easily have beaten South Africa." Yet who has the RWC 23 Trophy?
Wonderful analysis. Thank you.
The best team does not guarantee you to win the tournament, otherwise in soccer Brazil and Maybe France would win the world cup every time the tournament is played. Tournament are about who has the best strategy and execution. South Africa lately has been good at that, it seems like they build a team in between world cups to compete at the tournament, wether they lose in that period, they dont mind. And Rassie said it best , “ we dont have the best players in the world, we pick the best players for our system”. So if you have the players to execute your plan or strategy, you will win anything.
The boks will appreciate being underrated again. Bodes well for the future
Naas Botha was and is the best fly-half. 20 points before the game started.
Of course NZ have a better overall record. Racked up in the Tri-Nations, SA were always at a huge geolocational disadvantage.
Everyone says the Boks no rugby until they get 4 or 5 tries put on them. Wisely we play to the conditions
When SA win, there's noise about rules that need to be changed.
Let them change the laws. It will only hurt themselves when Boks adapt again and again.
I agree with the views on red cards that needs to be looked at.
I do no necessarily think the red card cost NZ. Firstly the red card didn't cause 14 v 15 for most of the game. If is was only a yellow he would have been back at 37. So 43 minutes left. SA had 2 yellows after that so roughly 20 mins. So the red card only resulted in 20 mins of extra 14 v15 vs had it been yellow.
Secondly SA were dominating until the red card. I said at the time this is going to wake NZ and it did. Who knows they might have lost further was it not for the red.
I have so much respect for Mr. Barnes as a journalist and pundit because he has such a deep appreciation for the game of rugby. He understands that it can be played in a multitude of different ways and gives plaudits when sides get their execution right , whatever their approach maybe. Whether it's the high-flying All Black sides of the 2010s and this latest iteration of power Boks with their quick strike ability out wide. Bravo, sir, bravo.
The ABs in the final were absolutely awful before they lost Cane. They were mistake ridden and lacked desperation. Losing Cane galvanized them and forced them to play with risk, which nearly got them home in the end.
Where does this “very inferior”myth come from? The head-to-head is 60-40, that’s a 10 game differential. 10 games over the course of 100 years is absolutely negligible.
Especially since the last few years their tally is about 50/50.
From a Springbok supporter. The All Black team is and has always been THE team to beat. One of the few teams that handles their rare losses without excuses and give credit where needed with super sportsmanship, Jeff Wilson excluded as he is a bad ambassador for All Black Rugby. I admire the All Blacks and the final could have gone either way, but the two best teams showed the world what rugby is all about, unconditionally.
Doing backflips to explain how the team 'not playing the rugby' has won 4 world cups. Come on guys.
News flash: Rugby includes all parts of the game. And how many tries have been scored against the Boks in four finals? One (maybe legal) How many tries has England scored in the last four World Cup games (the last 20 years) against the Boks? Zero
South Africans are just incredible rugby players. Ireland, Scotland, to name a few have a some Safas playing for them in order to up their game
When NZ won in 2011, no 1 complained about the style of rugby played to win. So why do you do it when SA won? In the semi, SA looked like the only team to score a try (and did). So to say they payed no rugby when Eng did nothing in that regard us disingenuous at best
England played the same game in the semi as S Africa played in 2019. They said in 2019 that S Africa weren't playing "rugby". Now I am really confused. Let's have a look at ALL of the kicking stats. Please help!
I heard some reports from hotel staff in France/Toulon (who've seen many teams over the years), saying that this Springbok squad is the tightest group they've ever seen.
Also - the adage that SA doesn't play rugby has become very naive - from a technical analysis pnt of view, top flight rugby is a game of chess. Have a look at Squidgerugby's analysis of the final to see what the Boks did to contain the most attacking team in World rugby. What they do off the ball is drastically underrated. IN the 1st half though, they intentionally kept the ball in play. I initially was on the fence about the 7-1 bench split, wondering if it had the desired effect - regarding setpieces, but when looking at the rest of the game plan, it was necessary.
dont forget that there was a long period of time where politics played a big role in springboks selection. Also would be a few games lost due to trying things that others might not. The aim.. to win the world cup so a few extra games get lost in between. good example splitting the squad in 2 during the rugby championships.
For which there was I gather huge criticism? And clearly a failure to recognise that SA doesnt have a first team and" replacements"- it has 2 first teams- and they play for the country and each other
SA by 1995 was the most dominant
Beaten all teams more than being beaten incl NZ
Transformation politics & policies forcing the issue instead of letting it happen naturally had us lose our way through a tumultuous time where NZ reversed that dominance we alao had first loss to Wales for example
Our style of play suffered but under Rassie has been returning
Our record vs NZ past 4 years is 50/50 so of late it is not inferior record. 35-7 at twickenham just before world cup is a record loss by NZ.
On tackles PSDT tackled low each time. Old school days thats how we did it.
Super rugby brought this high tackle style.
Players know better. No excuse. You know you in a rwc final and want to win - dont tackle high.
But what you guys fail to acknowledge was pressure by boks caused those cards.
Tackle low.
Many years ago the Shimlas toured England and played a match outside London.
The Shimla Captain decided that he wanted to scrum on the open side and told the other Shimla to scrum on the “ander kant”. (That side) The other flank did not hear what his captain said and shouted at the captain. “What?”
The captain shouted back “daardie kant.” (That side)
The ref blew the whistle and send the captain for an early shower!!
Despite the protestations of the South African student rugby side they had to finish the game one man short.
Stuart got it right in his analysis.
South Aafrica is a tactical masterpiece.
England just fell short of that, but did not show any other dimensiins throgout the competition.
Bazball works j the right conditions. Sometimes, gota have a different approach.
This is where the Boks and the Proteas have got it right. The right game for the conditions.
Until Protears played India
Sir. Stuart Barnes we love you for seeing the goodness of our guys after the France game. I can vouch for their sinceresty. God bless you.
5:20 "We are using the red card to get rid of habits" about Sam Cane, NZ All Black
Stuart Barnes is a former English rugby union footballer, and now rugby commentator for Sky Sports.
Barnes played fly-half for Newport RFC, Bristol, Bath; and represented England at international level.
Rules should apply every time the same way, in a friendly game and most importantly a final, its about adaptation, springboks lost a key player due to injury in the second minute of the game, went on to lose 90% of the line outs as a result, rules that every one is aware of were applied on the night, simple as that..
Stig Abel really didn't want South Africa to win, his bias is seeping throughout all his statements labeled as questions. Scrimmage is part of rugby, kicking is part of rugby and there are many ways to skin it. South Africa won, lets give them the credit they deserve.
What an interview and wrap on RWC 2023! Superb.
The AB's have been the favourite child and got the rub of the green 9 out of 10 times for as far as I can remember. I think it is because of the wonderful to watch superb rugby they have played.
However, the TMO and bunker review system have resulted in a lot of 14 man instead of 15.5 men for NZ. The AB's need to adapt.
They obviously have what it takes and the energy should be focused on that instead of wanting to change the game.
Agreed re NZ fav child, sure they have dominated rugby but Brazil dominates football, they don't get it all going their way.
Morne Steyn was a very successful player as he won 3 Super Rugby titles and BIL tour to mention a few, I think the only NH 10 that will come close to him was Wilkinson.
hm picking off the BIL in the 2nd test as Heinrich Brussow kept winning the turnover Pens.
I think the 14:15 is overplayed. It does not mean that make the AB’s lose. The Bokke played better against a 15 AB squad than a 14 squad….why? Because they probably slackened off psychologically. I don’t believe it was the deciding factor at all.
Top man Stuart Barnes
The AB were lucky not to be down to 13 considering that before the red the number 6 ended Bongi's tournament with a dangerous and deliberate and for me very sinical challenge to his knee.
The cards ( red/yellow) are now usually referred upstairs & it’s a collective decision most of the time
The review system is fantastic
I therefore ague that the yellow & red cards should stay !!!!!
Period
I feel it takes the pressure away from a vocal home crowd on the match officials, I like it and it seems fair.
Since 2018 the all blacks springboks played 11 games drew 1 and won 5 a piece ,i wouldnt say the all blacks have been the dominant team ,actually its been a tossup
The current rules have been in place long enough for most teams to coach their players on proper tackling technique. The excuses are dry now. The same rules applies to all teams. Some teams adapt and thrive, others make excuses
Stuart Barnes is such a good rugby brain! Well done.
Let me remind you that SA finished with 14 men. Just give it to the boks the thumbs up. They had fought to the end in every single game.
Stuart absolutely the best pundit on the air, only wish we could see him more. What a legend.
Springboks plays a strategic game.
Its all strategy.
Sometimes comes off.
Sometimes not.
But most times, it works.
Its a Sun Tzu mentality.
Know the ground, know your enemy and victory is guaranteed.
I just enjoyed this interview. Wow. South Africa is really respected out there. Stuart Barnes loves South African Rugby
That NZ/IRE game was outstanding too. I felt that NZ probably peaked on that day. What a weekend of Rugby that was!
Was sitting watching with a lot of mates in Joburg, and even we all went, dont upgrade that to red for Sam Cane, didn't want a red being talked about for whoever won.
Yup, SA are the best at winning world cups, obviously. They use the right tactics in every game especially in the knockout games and just win them, if it is pretty or not they don't care. They won the world cup and that's it. From 2018 until 2023 all that mattered really to the Boks was to win the world cups. They were building early toward the would cup creating depth in positions to give players experience etc. In the Rugby Championships they play a more running and entertaining brand of rugby, but they don't throw away their strenghts like scrumming, set pieces and their kicking game. Lots of geniuneses in the SA coaching staff. Let's get a hat-trick and make it imposible for any team to do it again. Go Bokke!! 🎉
In the end it doesnt matter how you play. Exciting or not it is about winning. Nothing more exciting than winning.
Springboks can play any kind of rugby and win as we saw at the World Cup. They play to WIN.
Barnes is a rugby man through and through... has a complete understanding of the game, no fluff just brilliantly accurate every time he speaks...you can listen to him all day.