Could the Sun Contain a Primordial Black Hole?

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  • An exploration of the question of whether the Sun could contain a Primordial Black Hole.
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  • @inthesky3833
    @inthesky3833 4 місяці тому +306

    john, i’m a college student with ridiculous insomnia and these videos truly help ease my mind and remind me that the world is bigger than my minute problems. thanks for taking the time to remind me (and many others) that our interests are valid, our questions are big, and our day-to-day problems are just that - day-to-day.

    • @shalomedome1614
      @shalomedome1614 4 місяці тому +13

      Professional glazer.

    • @Nethershaw
      @Nethershaw 4 місяці тому +1

      It is not ridiculous. The insomnia.

    • @Couchintheclouds
      @Couchintheclouds 4 місяці тому +2

      I have Insomnia too thank you for these videos.

    • @cabbagehead8082
      @cabbagehead8082 4 місяці тому

      Most men with poor sleeping habits also have low testosterone. TRT and lift heavy weights. Also try weed

    • @DefaultUser61
      @DefaultUser61 4 місяці тому

      Hell yeah

  • @jfp17
    @jfp17 4 місяці тому +77

    Black Hole Sun?
    Soundgarden were way ahead of their time

  • @halilzelenka5813
    @halilzelenka5813 4 місяці тому +24

    That “liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive” did not disappoint

  • @DataJack
    @DataJack 4 місяці тому +10

    Facinating. Thanks for all you do.

  • @rhouser1280
    @rhouser1280 4 місяці тому +27

    Waiting for a new theory of gravity to get rid of dark matter/energy….

    • @marfmang511
      @marfmang511 4 місяці тому +1

      My thoughts involve space having energy equalling mass but Iv yet to hear anyone bring that aspect up when it comes to dark matter. As for dark energy we need to know more about the energy of space

    • @MichaelWinter-ss6lx
      @MichaelWinter-ss6lx 4 місяці тому +2

      No new gravity. Examine how the DarkSide was proposed and - most simple - what DarkMatter supposedly should resolve. If you don't see it yet, it was for the outer stars orbital velocity. With more gravity from the outer side, these stars would drift out of the galaxy. No galaxies would exist. Nobody can solve the _3-body-problem_ yet, so the _three-trillion-body-problem_ must be made so myterious that nobody will try.
      Similar 💩 with DarkEnergy ;•) fooled by distance = time. Is it coincidence that Dark💩became popular right after StarWars debuted .... ❔
      🚀🏴‍☠️🎸

  • @jackabsolute5525
    @jackabsolute5525 4 місяці тому +3

    You know, with the numerous ai science/science fiction channels around, I'm glad your channel exists. More power to you.

  • @angryfinnishfarmer
    @angryfinnishfarmer 4 місяці тому +6

    Im sorry to say this but i probably listened to all your videos but cant remember the second half since i always fall asleep while listening to these. Big thanks for your calming, monotone voice. And according to the comments im not the only one here. ❤

  • @Dinoenthusiastguy
    @Dinoenthusiastguy 4 місяці тому +18

    Between catching c***d, a seven-year-long relationship ending, having to coordinate a move ASAP, and figuring out I have autism, (among many other things) this month has been one of the worst of my life. I'm barely sleeping these days. John, I know you hear this a lot, but I just wanted to thank you for putting my mind at ease and helping me fall asleep. You have no idea how much these videos mean to me.

  • @jefffinkbonner9551
    @jefffinkbonner9551 4 місяці тому +21

    I’m fascinated by the idea that the hypothesized Planet X could just be a tiny little black hole just lurking around out there in the outer reaches of the solar system!

  • @nicksellman6661
    @nicksellman6661 4 місяці тому +13

    Wow this came out before my work shift. Hell yes.

  • @MrHathaway1337
    @MrHathaway1337 4 місяці тому +5

    Neutrinos have mass? I didn't realize they went to church. 😮

  • @DonLoco3
    @DonLoco3 4 місяці тому +1

    I appreciate these videos, gets my mind walking along paths I might not have thought of for a while if at all. Excellent as always.

  • @Wanagi42
    @Wanagi42 4 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for all of the wonderful content, John.

  • @hmichaelkraut7968
    @hmichaelkraut7968 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you JMG. I absolutely love seeing something new from you in the middle of the night.

  • @Acadian10
    @Acadian10 4 місяці тому +15

    Possible, plausible, not likely but interesting theory. Love it.

    • @Darxide23
      @Darxide23 4 місяці тому +4

      I used to think the most interesting thing in cosmology was all of the phenomena that could exist and the math supported their potential existence, but were so probabilisticly absurd that we felt safe dismissing them entirely.
      But then I started looking into some of the bizarre things that we have _actually_ found and the universe just gets so much weirder and more interesting than all the mathematically possible, but improbable things.
      "The universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose." - J. B. S. Haldane

  • @paige-vt8fn
    @paige-vt8fn 4 місяці тому

    This quickly became one of my favorite theories/videos from you! What a fascinating thing to think about, let alone study! Super cool! Thanks again GOATier! 👍 🙏 ❤

  • @DarrenNugent-md4kd
    @DarrenNugent-md4kd 4 місяці тому +1

    Very informative and contained the relevant wow factor. Never heard anything like this before. My knowledge always grows when listening to you and your fantastic guests...these videos are essential to your wellbeing and knowledge thanks John Michael Godier much appreciated😊

  • @dmdrosselmeyer
    @dmdrosselmeyer 4 місяці тому +7

    "The Songs of Distant Earth" is one of my favorite hard sci-fi novels of all time! I know you are familiar with it, but the solar neutrino problem is central to the plot and hadn't yet been resolved by the time it was written.
    Thanks for all the great content; your videos plant the seeds of literary inspiration in my head regularly🙏
    I don't see the black hole's name written on anything so I think we're good... although if it used black ink we might be screwed

  • @cj92it
    @cj92it 4 місяці тому

    This is the kind of post I live for !!
    Thank you so much, JMG!!!!

  • @shaunhubvk
    @shaunhubvk 4 місяці тому +2

    Thanks John, listening to your videos at night send me into the wildest dreams I’ve ever had… it’s great!

  • @pepe6666
    @pepe6666 4 місяці тому

    another BANGER jmg episode. thanks once again

  • @srf2112
    @srf2112 4 місяці тому

    This is a good one. I understood most of what you were talking about. We know so little about so much.

  • @fredmartinez9597
    @fredmartinez9597 4 місяці тому

    I know what im watching tonight!
    Thank you, John!

  • @liminal-waves
    @liminal-waves 4 місяці тому

    Primordial black holes in particular always fascinated me. Thanks JMG.

  • @residentenigma7141
    @residentenigma7141 4 місяці тому

    Many people claim that your videos (and parallax nicks') help them drift into sleep, but for me, episodes like this keep me awake. And way past my bedtime !

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 4 місяці тому

    There's a lot of weird stuff out there that could potentially be black holes! Great video, JMG.

  • @bobajango55
    @bobajango55 4 місяці тому

    John consistently drops bangers, I had no interest in space until I saw your stuff. Thanks for sending me down a rabbit hole, for questioning our existence, and a new hobby

  • @Smithtube09
    @Smithtube09 4 місяці тому +1

    Yay. New JMG!

  • @svinjamaria
    @svinjamaria 4 місяці тому +2

    Primordial Black Hole Sun, the oldest best song from Soundgarden

  • @hodorhodor7952
    @hodorhodor7952 4 місяці тому

    what could be the worst to happen, legitimately or outlandishly, of launching experiments into our backyard primordial blackhole?

  • @dackbowland1876
    @dackbowland1876 4 місяці тому +2

    We love John

  • @islandtech1963
    @islandtech1963 4 місяці тому +1

    I'll just go ahead and file this one in the ole 'nind blowing stuff' file.

  • @tbmdd
    @tbmdd 4 місяці тому +8

    Woah it's only a quarter 'til 5:00 I can't go to sleep yet!

  • @YRLCarlos
    @YRLCarlos 4 місяці тому +2

    Excellent

  • @thakyou5005
    @thakyou5005 4 місяці тому +4

    Takes me back to my teenage years, when I was learning of new astral objects all the time! So fun. Thank you John, for being an endless encyclopedia.

  • @truvc
    @truvc 4 місяці тому +4

    A primordial black hole in the outer solar system would still be a planet.
    Round. Orbits the sun. Cleared its orbit.

    • @lawrencefrost9063
      @lawrencefrost9063 4 місяці тому +1

      uh...yeah don't get philosophical dude. Planets are not black holes lol.

    • @Freddie_Dunning-Kruger_Jr.
      @Freddie_Dunning-Kruger_Jr. 4 місяці тому

      Cleared and Consumed are two different things I believe 🤔

  • @kanna-san.
    @kanna-san. 4 місяці тому +4

    BLACK HOLE SUN
    WON'T YOU COME

    • @paige-vt8fn
      @paige-vt8fn 4 місяці тому

      🎶wash awayyy the rain 🎵❤

  • @mentalillness1574
    @mentalillness1574 4 місяці тому

    These are the best videos for sleeping on UA-cam. Right up there with vsauce and veritasium. science/fiction theories take my mind off the problems of the world

  • @theagoraphobicatheist
    @theagoraphobicatheist 4 місяці тому +1

    Yessssss! I love black hole stuffffs

  • @idesof
    @idesof 3 місяці тому

    If there are indeed gazillions of primordial black holes, they could become the weed of space, ala the famous SNL skit:
    "What's that star for?"
    "You put a black hole in it."
    "What's that nebula for?"
    "You put a black hole in it."

  • @Claudius_Octavian
    @Claudius_Octavian 4 місяці тому +1

    John! Can you please please release the background soundtracks you use?!

  • @upupuptheziggurat.liketysplit
    @upupuptheziggurat.liketysplit 4 місяці тому +1

    Where else would you park a singularity?

  • @jmanj3917
    @jmanj3917 4 місяці тому

    7:01 Yessir; I probably will be doing the same thing.
    I might even have gotten a bit baked before and while watching this...🤣

  • @brendawilliams8062
    @brendawilliams8062 4 місяці тому

    Thankyou

  • @miboxcmpinto4977
    @miboxcmpinto4977 4 місяці тому +1

    OK, Mister Godier, put us to sleep.

  • @Voshchronos
    @Voshchronos 4 місяці тому

    Fascinating

  • @miracle2698
    @miracle2698 4 місяці тому +3

    Podcast with Anton Petrov when

  • @arian7093
    @arian7093 Місяць тому

    Thanks

  • @PsRohrbaugh
    @PsRohrbaugh 4 місяці тому

    Please consider showing Patreons in the credits.

  • @Captain.AmericaV1
    @Captain.AmericaV1 4 місяці тому

    There's so much we don't know about the universe, so anything is possible

  • @211212112
    @211212112 4 місяці тому

    Could be pre bang small BH's. Those might be just hanging out not speeding around.

  • @Anti-ImperialistNPC
    @Anti-ImperialistNPC 4 місяці тому

    Never thought about it before but i have a feeling i will tonight

  • @SaanMigwell
    @SaanMigwell 4 місяці тому

    This concept was somewhat explored in the sci-fi epic "The saga of the seven stars"

  • @damianstasek8946
    @damianstasek8946 4 місяці тому

    The real mind blower is the everything is a black hole

  • @bison_life
    @bison_life 4 місяці тому

    John Michael Godier, I hereby thank your atoms for your existence.

  • @merlin3381
    @merlin3381 4 місяці тому

    Could you use a binary black hole for a partial accelerator?

  • @mikefiell8103
    @mikefiell8103 4 місяці тому

    Maybe there's a hole out beyond the Ort Cloud. A possible explanation of the mysterious planet X? A gravity well that pulls on the outer planets Uranus & Neptune.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 4 місяці тому

    Fascinating indeed! Thanks a bunch, John!!! 😃
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @imstevemcqueen
    @imstevemcqueen 4 місяці тому

    Randy Mills found out what Dark Matter is.

  • @jjthefish446
    @jjthefish446 4 місяці тому

    Black hole sun
    Won't you come
    And wash away the rain?
    Black hole sun
    Won't you come
    Won't you come
    Won't you come

  • @GeoffsCornerOffice
    @GeoffsCornerOffice 4 місяці тому

    Could variable stars be explained by possibly containing an internal black hole I wonder?

  • @Italianjedi7
    @Italianjedi7 4 місяці тому

    What kind of things could we test if we had access to a primordial black hole?

    • @massimookissed1023
      @massimookissed1023 4 місяці тому

      I'm sure the Hydraulic Press channel could find all sorts of things to throw at it.

  • @cyrilio
    @cyrilio 4 місяці тому +4

    Something I still don’t onderstand is how Sag A* is so small relative to other massive black holes in other galaxies. Any idea why this is the case? Is the milieu way special?

    • @machinegunpictures
      @machinegunpictures 4 місяці тому

      It’s not tooo small, but our galaxy is a relatively small one relative to others in cluster

    • @-yeme-
      @-yeme- 4 місяці тому

      we now think that the mass of a central SMBH might only be proportional to the density and combined mass of a galaxy's central region, rather than the whole galaxy, ie the central bulge in spiral galaxies like the milky way. triangulum, for instance, appears to have no central SMBH, and also lacks a large central bulge
      but since we dont know the full story on how SMBHs grow to the masses they do, no one knows for sure.

    • @TheIgnoramus
      @TheIgnoramus 4 місяці тому

      Just age, really. Were the newer kids on the block. From my understanding.

    • @mikefiell8103
      @mikefiell8103 4 місяці тому

      I believe has to do with the age of the hole and the size of the galactic core.

  • @chrisnizer5702
    @chrisnizer5702 4 місяці тому

    If neutrinos have mass then I suppose several billion years worth of accumulation would have some kind of effects, gravitational or otherwise. Since they're not easily detectable on our scale they tend to be left out of the grand scheme of the universe. Dark energy, dark matter, etc, they must play some kind of role in our understanding of the universe.

  • @sammorrow8420
    @sammorrow8420 4 місяці тому

    Time dilation is cumulative and the effect drops off to undetectable levels but is always >0. With >100 Billion stars just in the Milky Way alone, our rate of time halfway from the center to the edge is faster than at Sag A*. Since I haven't seen that reality in the equations to measure the mass of Sag A*, it is larger than currently accepted and the time rate at the edge of the galaxy is faster than ours, so I kinda wonder if dark matter is actually matter at all.

  • @holyarchon9564
    @holyarchon9564 4 місяці тому

    A black hole the size of an apple in our solar system! Talk about a needle in a haystack!

  • @friedrichjunzt
    @friedrichjunzt 4 місяці тому

    Why isnt it possible that almost every (old) Star has a PBH in it?

  • @Timbo6669
    @Timbo6669 4 місяці тому

    Wow…now that is interesting. Maybe we have the whole Star disc formation theory wrong and not only do super massive black holes create galaxies, maybe primordial black holes are how all stars are formed?

  • @danhnguyen-fn9eb
    @danhnguyen-fn9eb 4 місяці тому

    How about confirming the existence of the Primordial's before delving into the what if's? Fact is even if they existed a BH is still going to do what a BH does regardless of size. By definition a BH will still have an event horizon where the gravitational pull is pulling FTL. Meaning if any matter gets close enough it can be pulled in and eaten by the BH causing it to grow. So, in theory a primordial BH starting out with the mass of an asteroid could grow to become a super massive BH if a sufficient amount edible matter is available and consumed

  • @marfmang511
    @marfmang511 4 місяці тому

    So we know space has energy witch equals mass, How is that taken into account when it comes to dark mater?

  • @jamesfowley4114
    @jamesfowley4114 4 місяці тому

    What if you need a primordial hole to seed a star formation?

  • @Midg-td3ty
    @Midg-td3ty 4 місяці тому

    Wouldnt we have seen primordial blackholes if they exist ? I mean a 2-3 earth mass blackhole thats in transit infront of a star should leave some unique signature no ? So either they are super rare or just dont exist.

  • @lawrencefrost9063
    @lawrencefrost9063 4 місяці тому

    The reason why these would be hard to detect is the size. If Planet X is not a planet but a black hole, it's size would be around a grape. Now I don't know about you but detecting any object the size of a grape from across the solar system is HARD, detecting a black hole...yeah!

  • @PhilipSmolen
    @PhilipSmolen 4 місяці тому

    Could "hammer space" explain dark matter?

  • @Brand131
    @Brand131 4 місяці тому

    I wonder if there could be primordial anti-matter black holes, as a possible explanation for the seeming lack of it in the universe.

    • @zufalllx
      @zufalllx 4 місяці тому

      Ah, faith science at work.

    • @SMac86
      @SMac86 4 місяці тому

      Begone foul flerfer, your kind has no power here!​@@zufalllx

  • @211212112
    @211212112 4 місяці тому

    PBH as star and galaxy seeds. Mmm...

  • @AlexWalkerSmith
    @AlexWalkerSmith 4 місяці тому

    Is it just me, or did John have a little too much caffeine today? Seems to be talking a tiny bit faster than normal 😆

  • @walterabanathy7814
    @walterabanathy7814 4 місяці тому +1

    Anyone else have black hole sun stuck in their head now?

  • @zombiemanjosh
    @zombiemanjosh 4 місяці тому +4

    I dunno what it says about me but my brain filled in the title as "Could the Sun Contain a Primordial -- Evil Beyond Human Comprehension?" but I guess a black hole is close enough.

    • @bearlytamedmodels
      @bearlytamedmodels 4 місяці тому

      Well they aren't evil. ... Probably. But everything else checks out! So, good job, new title! :D

    • @jaymethodus3421
      @jaymethodus3421 4 місяці тому

      You’re not incorrect, but it’s not evil; that definition is strictly *within* human comprehension.

  • @OptimusGnarkill
    @OptimusGnarkill 4 місяці тому

    So we could potentially be living inside of a black hole, and also our Sun potentially has a black hole at its center…a black hole within a black hole. That would be some trippy shit.

    • @BlastinRope
      @BlastinRope 4 місяці тому

      big bang is a white hole, a point in spacetime that everything is moving away from

  • @darthjarwood7943
    @darthjarwood7943 4 місяці тому

    Twould be nice to find an earth mass black hole...maybe it could be contained and used on a space station for gravity

  • @THX..1138
    @THX..1138 4 місяці тому

    My guess is Primordial Black Holes don't, never did and probably can't exist.

  • @mikelfunderburk5912
    @mikelfunderburk5912 4 місяці тому

    Anna! Didn't get a notification AGAIN. This is unacceptable for yt

  • @Kelnx
    @Kelnx 4 місяці тому +1

    So it would constrict the Red Giant phase of the Sun "saving" the Earth, but it would still bake Earth and boil oceans off. So what you're saying is, a Black Hole Sun would indeed wash away the rain?

  • @randallpetersen9164
    @randallpetersen9164 4 місяці тому

    Have you thought about writing a book concerning that black hole at our outer solar system? Has anyone else done it? I'd read it!

  • @funpolice4416
    @funpolice4416 4 місяці тому

    Been reading book of the new sun, eh?

  • @lifeispainandpleasure
    @lifeispainandpleasure 4 місяці тому

    What if we discover that are Sun has a Primordial Black Hole, and then we discover a planet with life, and then we discover that Star also has a Primordial Black Hole? That would really rock the scientific community

  • @AdRock
    @AdRock 4 місяці тому

    Why wouldn’t an asteroid size black hole eat a star?

  • @pincheguarito591
    @pincheguarito591 4 місяці тому

    Is there an accretion ring around it's black hole?😇

  • @jcarter855
    @jcarter855 4 місяці тому

    If the title ends in a ? the answer is usually No on UA-cam - Great vid nonetheless as always!!

    • @JohnMichaelGodier
      @JohnMichaelGodier  4 місяці тому +2

      In my videos, it's always a yes.

    • @jcarter855
      @jcarter855 4 місяці тому

      @@JohnMichaelGodier
      Copy that sir, keep up the good work in this amazing universe in which we livvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

  • @tardiscommand1812
    @tardiscommand1812 4 місяці тому

    I’m grateful that we live in the age of the stars. Call me a romantic but I often think of the far future peoples. If we are still around that long, it would be very lonely indeed. Myths and legends would exist of the time of light and those ancestors who bathed in it.

  • @sputniktheradio8652
    @sputniktheradio8652 4 місяці тому

    🎉

  • @NoahSpurrier
    @NoahSpurrier 4 місяці тому

    Maybe they are star seeds.

  • @lordphullautosear
    @lordphullautosear 4 місяці тому

    It's not "dark matter." It's space oobleck.

  • @tigertiger1699
    @tigertiger1699 4 місяці тому

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @keithwalmsley1830
    @keithwalmsley1830 4 місяці тому

    I tend to think that the more we think we know of the Universe the less we know!!!! 🤣🤣

  • @nutgone100
    @nutgone100 4 місяці тому

    I am absolutely convinced that dark matter is not some mystical particle or different realm, but science is just unwilling to admit that it may be wrong about something. Obviously when I say “science” I’m referring to certain institutions & their alumni, certainly not all scientists.
    It’s happened so many times in history, we would be arrogant to think it couldn’t happen today.
    I like the primordial black hole theory, but I still think it’s simpler, we’ve got something wrong or we’ve missed something out of our calculations.
    It would be cool though, to have these primordial black holes floating about the place.

  • @shawns0762
    @shawns0762 4 місяці тому +1

    General Relativity predicts dilation, not singularities. The mass at the center of the sun is dilated. Mass that is dilated is smeared through spacetime relative to an outside observer.

  • @lightyagami3492
    @lightyagami3492 4 місяці тому

    Not very likely but not impossible either. If there is a primordial black hole inside the Sun we would have no way of detecting it at this point.

  • @Vaille32
    @Vaille32 4 місяці тому

    Does the star really capture the primordial black hole or does the primordial black hole capture the star? 🤔 🌟 + 🕳️ = ❓