MLB’s Biggest Joke: The Failed Rebuild of the Chicago White Sox…
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2023
- In this video I discuss the decade long rebuild of the Chicago White Sox and the failure that made the years of pain and suffering all for nothing…
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Thank you‼️Means a lot from one of the OGs🙏
2 of the best right here fellas
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That six minute rant by the fan is worth the watch, regardless of what team you cheer for. That dude is a hero. As a longtime sox fan, I blame the players. Like said in the video, the brass and GM had a loaded farm system. These guys are just playing like crap, or injured. They were lucky when Yermin Mercedes carried them for awhile.
i would agree with you, but Kenny Williams struck gold one time in 2005 and it's been 22 years of mediocrity with him calling the shots so I just think he's incompetent as fuck.
@@JKMYST Yeah, he made two good trades. (Olivo for Garcia, and Carlos Lee for Posednik for the 05 year).
@@JKMYST why do folks like you keep blaming the symptom of the problem, as opposed to the actual problem???
Last I checked Kenny has a boss..that boss has presided over the Sox since 1981.
And over that time span, the Sox have won a grand total of 3 playoff series.
Again… Kenny is only a symptom of the problem.
as a human being I feel for you as many of my sports teams have been forever rebuilding and nothing but false hope, as a Cubs fan I love it
@@space_ace_1 it’s all good, I don’t get into the rivalry anymore, too old. Congrats on 2016! At least I got to see one in 05. Didn’t think it would ever happen.
Also, the radio station caller, Berto from the West Side, is now a sox legend
I've listened to that call 3 times. Everything he says is so well put. Guy will forever be a legend.
As a baseball fan for over 50 years and a White Sox fan, I have never seen so many young talented players REGRESS in their development. In 2022 the Sox were ofldds on favorite to won the American league Penant and had the second best odds at winning the World Series. Then they crashed faster than the Hindenberg
Real
They will end up on another team and be superstars there. As, usual.
Man honestly that loss in the 2021 ALDS to Houston broke this team just watching the body language. They weren’t mentally prepared tim Anderson was crying his eyes out and the team was absolutely dejected.
They deserved it.
I can’t believe they would treat the new Jackie Robinson like this
@@plawson8577 Why? They didn't cheat like Houston at least.
@@plawson8577whys that?
Abreu wasn’t called up, he was signed from Cuba.
You’re right. Around the 4:25 mark I have him listed as an international signing. It’s just force of habit to say called up lol
@@DaWARRoom Makes sense, either way he debut for them lol
@@brandonbennis9020 Then the Sox stupidly let Abreu walk to the cheating Astros.
The White Sox hiring Pedro Grifol did not help. They should have hired someone like Bruce Bochy. Sorry Sox fans, but it's going to be another long season on the South side. I'd go so far as to pick them to finish last in the division behind the Kansas City Royals.
@@kevinmiller6380 I love that the Astros live rent free in your head😂
Man being a cubs fan living in Chicago, Tony Larussa was absolutely the worst thing the Sox could have done to themselves. I get injuries happen and that’s unfortunate, but Larussa single handedly killed all fun and chemistry the Sox had. I remember Yermin Mercedes having a crazy run when he got called up, he did 1 thing Larusa didn’t like( i think he hit a home run when they were up like 8) and Larussa sent him down and we haven’t heard of him since. My homies that are Sox fans absolutely hated Larusa
And that's why Tony is old, drunk, senile, and too old school. Chicago turned on him more quickly than they did with Nagy.
Chicago? Which neighborhood?
@@jackjohnson2101 you trynna out him like he from Naperville 😂
Amen. I think the comment is spot on. LaRussa was the gut punch that killed the hopes for this team.
Yermin wasn’t sent down cause of the homerun lol he got sent down weeks later cause he was ice cold at the plate.
I have lived and died with this team for over 50 years. The last few have been the absolute hardest (with a long history of tough years). We never had potential like this, spent the money, made the moves and the result was a 500 year and this year is such a flaming bag of crap I can’t make myself watch. They will always be my team but dang they are killing us.
At least they support gay sex as an organization
@@guyincognito320😂
yeah, as a sox fan it actually hurts to see this team not live up to its potential. I honestly believe this franchise wont be good until its under new ownership. Jerry has owned the team for 40 years and got 1 WS. Rick Hahn has been there for 12 years and got 2 playoff, first round exits. Really sad that ill have to live with the memory of 2005 forever lol
Honestly, I think Tony La Russa did more damage than help. He was just too old to manage the game, and you could tell right away. The players didn't have the spark when playing with him, and firing Tony just showed how dysfunctional the team is compared to the Cubs.
firing Rick Renteria was one of the worst things to happen. you have a largely hispanic team run by a hispanic manager, someone who could relate to their struggle. then bring in someone who hadn't been in a clubhouse in 10 years. with Rick, you could see he encouraged his team to do well. at least he backed his team instead of "unwritten rules"
Good video! Small critique only cuz I’m a White Sox fan while it may seem like 2013-2016 were rebuild years they were actually trying to win believe it or not, those were the years where they spent money on Melky Cabrera, David Robertson and traded for Todd Frazier. Kinda sad that that was their idea of going for it. And can’t forget about the infamous Tatis for Shields trade at the deadline in 16 that offseason was the start of the rebuild.
Semien for samardzija always makes me sad too
Yoan moncado is no longer a prospect, he’s a bust. Kopech too albei he could move to closer.Seems lotsa this roster dogs it, often hitting the dl for extended periodes Anderson could spark ‘em back but july 4 , halfway point is coming. Lynn. Giolito and cease have all yoyoed for too long.
Ole big game James lol
Tatis was also ranked well behind Adam Engel on prospect lists at the time, he's just the extreme outcome of young, toolsy prospects and why they get referred to as lottery tickets
as a white sox fan seeing these numbers just pains me over and over again and its not just the white sox its the black hawks the bulls and the bears i have to watch every year and see bad numbers and then seeing the white sox with bad numbers hurts a lot but i still cheer for them day and day out. nice work on the vid my man
That’s rough, and as a Detroit sports fan I understand your pain.
Still not as bad as being a Minnesota sports fan.😅
You know the North siders are looking pretty good
I hate being so loyal to these Chicago teams that don't care about me, you or any of the fans.
Just be a cubs fan, at least they try and spend
Bro didn’t give Vaughn enough praise
At all 🤦🏾♂️
Yah Vaughn is a bonafide stud. Such a shame he's wasting away on this team. 😭
The one good thing about the Sox is they always have good first basemen for a while now: Frank Thomas->Paul Konerko->Jose Abreu->Andrew Vaughn
This wasn’t really an analysis of “why” the rebuild failed, but rather a recap
Nevertheless, still very depressing to live through.
It is an explanation of why the White Sox are a laughingstock
If we are being pedantic, then it is worth noting the title indicates is about the "what" of what went wrong, not the why. So, a recap of the facts rather than an analysis of the explanations of the facts would be expected.
6:09 That's the "why"
@@lenin17301560 😂
Good...good...
Hey, I feel you all the way over here in Detroit. We were excited to be on the up ourselves. Then there was that little spark of a rivalry between us at the end of 2021. We were excited for a little Chicago-Detroit rivalry action. Nope, turns out we both suck. What's even worse is that our division is so craptastic, there's only one good team, that's it! No one wants to challenge them. This division is ripe for the picking and nobody wants it. It's very aggravating.
There are no good teams in the ALC. The Sox should be in the driver's seat right now for a 4 peat in the division but in the final tally Rick Hahn's rebuild will have produced one division title with a pathetic showing in the ALDS where they were really exposed as an altogether inferior franchise as compared with Houston. The 3-1 outcome doesn't tell you much. Rick Hahn is easily bottom 5 in the league yet he's been there for 12 years or so. The current has talent but several horrendous players that you just cant win with because you need backups. They can't produce anything of minimal baseball value - serviceable utility players, middle relievers - from within. All their young talent was either from a firesale trade or a high first round pick, so in other words the hardest to mess up.
Sox ownership has never been terribly serious about winning. Their last two GMs have proven themselves well below average but they're both still there.
The whole division is definitely just in agreement to be an absolute dumpster fire year in and year out just to make money. I wouldn't call any team in the division good, nobody has a shot to even touch the world series
There seems to always be a silver lining in Detroit of what unheralded prospect or AAAA castoff will turn into something if only for a year or two. The problem seems to be the wrong shortstop was signed in that super class and that Torkelson hasn't been as good as expected. Almost like back when the Tigers had Carlos Pena. Get rid of him and he probably turns into a 50 HR monster which will haunt Detroit for years.
@@JB-pk8gd I wouldn’t say that. The Guardians are obviously there, and I think they’re just taking the season slow, not having a fluke (though they do need to step up their hitting). I also think the Twins will be in playoff contention soon, especially after the fantastic offseason they had (minus losing Luis Arraez).
If tigers didn't sign javy Baez they would be on track for at least division title think of the players getting paid less from that year of Free agents
That was unfortunately a perfect summation of what we’ve went through without any “out of town stupid” as we like to call it. You nailed it. We should be planning parade routes by now. That is not the case.
Injuries have plagued the team more than I would say is usual for a team. Whenever Moncada or Eloy are injured, it sets us back quite a bit. Whenever TA is injured, we're almost destined for defeat for a month. When Luis is injured, it's a gaping hole in the outfield. And these have all happened in 3 back-to-back years, meaning Leury Garcia became a regular member of the team. Sometimes it's multiple injuries at once, and they'll range from lymphoma (which we now know is gone), to an overextended finger muscle. It even ranges across pitchers, but they've mostly been knee injuries. The wildest thing about all this is that we had *just* gotten a new medical staff.
The closest 2nd baseman we've had remotely like Iguchi has been Elvis, and I hear day in and day out about how mediocre and over-the-hill a player he is. He's only been playing SS because TA had been injured. Burger has been filling in for Moncada and this year is really showing that.
The last couple of years, our entire outfield has been just about missing because Eloy hadn't been there, but was liable to be injured anyway when he was. With Benintendi, Robert, and Colas, we had something resembling outfield defense. And yet many of our games this year have had (checks notes) Gavin Sheets in right field, even with Colas *not* injured.
The pattern I have seen is that we have these awesome baseball players that people have asked for, but they keep getting injured and pulled out for real extensive periods of time. And then they come back to a team with absolutely NO morale. That's why we like Billy Hamilton, Elvis, and when he was with us, also Goodwin. When they're here, they help stop the vicious cycle. They can't do it on their own, but they're like jumper cables being attached to a Maserati with an engine problem.
But that doesn't stop the engine problem, and we gotta figure out what's really wrong with this engine.
Very good post!
I've been a Chisox fan for 30 years, This season is just pain
Hahaha GO CUBS
@@carrerakiid Even I a cubs fan.. will know.. no matter how bad the sox are.. They will unfortunately beat the cubs... Even if the cubs are on top of the division.. Sox just can't loose as much to the Cubs it seems :( Maybe this year the Cubs will win tho!!!
@@carrerakiid The Cubs aren't going to win anything this year either
@@michaelleroy9281 Michael Leroy mark my words punk
cubs will win the world series this year
if they dont
i will knock you out
bye bye noob
Ya’ll haven’t been relevant since 2005. When Selig had to buy you a Damn Crown.
As a sox fan I'm still clearly upset over the '22 season. It was indeed a slap in the face to fans who believed in the hype. Letting Abreu walk out the door was one of the stupidest things the organization can do. Despite him aging, he was clearly one of the only few work horses doing his job and the guy was injured several times yet he still played through them and even excelled better then anyone in the roster. Additionally not rehiring James McCann and instead going after Grandal was a terrible plan of execution and what about filling the 2nd base role? That still hasn't been resolved since the rebuild! Better yet where is our starting left hand pitcher? So many questions and so little answers. Clearly going into the 2023 season I see it nothing but a band-aid of a year in progress and after seeing that recent losing streak happening this early in the season clearly shows how bad this team will faulter. Don't expect them to do any better then to remain .500 at best. The Sox organization did everything right to sabotage these past few season. I was never in favor of LaRussa's rehiring. That alone set the club at least 2 years back in performance. The DUI he received before being rehired was swept under the table. It wasn't until after his rehiring did that come to light over the local sports talk airwaves. What done me in with him was his ego trip, that he asked that "this won't affect my hall of fame statue will it?"....
Hiring Pedrol as his replacement, was again another band-aid.
Until this club rights the ship, as far as I'm concerned I will not be spending my hard earn money into attending any more "losing" this season after attending a 1-4 record of last.
I'm with the rest of the crowd this past week...
JERRY REINSDORF
"SELL THE TEAM!
Hold my beer “White Sox 2023 season”
@@themode00 welp I was right!...and statically it was worse then the 2022 season. Horray for +100 losses! I could add so much to what i stated from my earlier season comment but it just ain't worth it.
Die hard sox fan, you pretty much summed up the past decade very well for us 💔
the amount of depressed fans i saw when i was at the game that luis robert didnt run at was sad. great as a rays fan tho
The reason in my opinion was because of La Russa being the manager and was totally a stupid idea even looking at the time. And Abreau leaving probably hasn’t helped them with both on and off the field. Losing a veteran and big brother is huge.
It has been proven we lose when tim Anderson is out.
Yea definitely
Tim Anderson the modern day Jimmy Rollins
We missing our closer who we need cause we suck. We also need Crochet back. And we need Cease, and the other pitchers to step up and get better
"Jackie"
@@BlackJaxxx werido
The Jays in the early 2000s were similar. One season they were really hyped up to be a cracked team with Doc, Delgado, Vernon Wells, etc… but they fell short and the franchise kept suffering for years until Bautista, Donaldson, and Eddy showed up.
as a sox fan, i feel like everything went downhill after reinsdorf forcefully hired TLR to be the manager to make it up to him for firing him many years back. TLR hadn’t been a manager for over 10 years and had just gotten a DUI days prior to the hiring and during his second stint as manager, the players were taught bad habits that they still have not broken yet to this day (not hustling all the time, hitting singles, etc) not to mention the poor roster construction by the yes men/puppets in the front office that resulted in having to play 1B/DHs in the outfield which obviously did not work, as well as players underperforming and constantly getting injured
One of the weirder moments of the rebuild was the initial press release announcing the team hiring TLR as manager, as it had an image of the signature of the guy everyone figured management was going to go with, AJ Hinch. I thoroughly put Reinsdorf wanting his drinking buddy back in the organization as the thing that derailed this entire rebuild.
From the southside became a baseball fan in 08. Favorite player Alexei Ramirez at the time. I literally developed a thrill of having good prospects since i only seen my team make the playoffs 1 time 🤦♂️
As i was watching a game around August last season, they showed a graph about how the White Sox were 500 since 1981 or something like that, alongside .500 on home and away games, day and night games, etc, they are the mid team of the mid division.
They've had quite a lot of years that had a little hope at the start that they could make the playoffs with reasonable good luck. The problem is always with the bottom half of the roster, where your farm system really reveals itself. That part seems to be what makes them 2nd place/3rd place most years. They can't produce effective relievers through the farm clubs and can't produce bottom of the order guys who don't suck, or backups that have good fundamentals. Aside from the rebuild they always spend a decent amount but you need to spend and to develop and in order to do the latter you have to be committed to excellence, which ownership is not.. they've had the same underperformers for 20 years.
White Sox could draft but couldn't develop any of those guys after Rodon, which stunted their growth. Not to mention an unwillingness to spend on impact signings once they were winning.
La Russa may go down as the worst hire of all time. The guy single handedly cost them several games with poor management, fell asleep during games, refused to adjust his outdated strategies, completely let off the gas to finish the 2021 season leading to a poor playoff performance, and most importantly, completely killed the fun clubhouse culture that existed previously
Tigers fan here, first of all, great work on a well structured video. This is an important topic in baseball. I think you pointed out a lot of good points, and I think from within their division I often sit there flabbergasted at how they aren't winning with the roster and raw talent they have. However, I do think it's way early in 2023 to talk about this team as a perennial failure who will "never" live up to expectations. Don't get me wrong, they are in need of a DRASTIC turnaround, better management, and a culture change. But we're still early in 2023 and their contention window is by no means expired. Here's to hoping we make it over the top before they do though 😂
Griffey's WhiteSox moment was throwing a runner out at the plate in game 163 against the Twins, 2008. Danks gave us a great start, Thome homered for the games only run.
Hey I just wanted to say that I have been watching you since you started on youtube and it has been amazing to see the imrpovements you have made keep going your one of my favorite channels. I hope you keep getting bigger.
Abreu defected as a 27 YO. So, yes he was a rookie, but much older than typical rookies. Not a top prospect who was called up
One thing we need to understand is Reinsdorf is NOT selling. He is making money and his ROI with this team is unreal. Not making the playoffs or not making the WS is technically not a failure from an economics business standpoint.
Jerry is the type of owner who would get pissed if the Sox won the World Series in 4 games rather than getting all the revenue from an additional 3.
@@ogKoral Hope he moves the team. I think it will likely happen unless idiot Brandon Johnson caves or is paid off.
From the 2005 World Series Champions to almost losing the MLB team due to very low attendance, even if Chicago White Sox is one of the original MLB teams back in 1903. Too many empty seats at the Guarateed Rate Field (formerly Comiskey Stadium).
Should Jerry Reinsdorf sell the White Sox?
Should have years ago.
Reinsdorf’s legacy is horrifying.
He has one championship.
I say that because he would have had nothing without Michael Jordan.
One guy got him those 6 rings, and Jerry Krause did the work to build Michael’s supporting cast.
Reinsdorf is like the McCaskeys. A poison that would interfere with teambuildinng operations without knowing a thing about it
I definitely don't think he should. I don't know how much better it can get than him.
Years ago
@@huddahhuddah3315 krause did the work that mattered...reinsdorf sucks
Yes
I work down the street from Sox stadium and can confirm there are at least three billboards in the area calling for ownership to sell the team
As a Cleveland fan, last year I was expecting to be trounced by the ChiSox, but then Tony LaRussa helped out lol
6:25- An interesting note, Sox actually traded for Lynn with a prospect they received in the Eaton trade, Dane Dunning.
First time I’ve come across your channel, and an easy decision to subscribe. Nice work.
I'm not a fan, but and I gotta say by 2019 I was excited for the project the White Sox FO had on the table. I was ready to see another competitive team on the AL besides the Astros and Yankees. I think the FO's mistake was to overpaid for players in their attempt to bring known names to their stadium (remember the fiasco of the Manny Machado offer?), they were desperate to show big players wanted to be on the southside as much as in NY or LA. LaRussa was just the lil push they needed to fall off the cliff. At the end of the day the organization wrote checks their players couldn't cash out.
Still I don't believe they are a lost case, they do need to change their entire coaching staff tho, it's not normal how players with so much unleashed potential just hasn't achieved it.
What went wrong was firing Ricky the year he took the team into the playoffs indtead of letting him continue to build on the rebuild sucess he had. The team played for him, the team had fun, the fans and free agents wanted to be apart of the experience.
Signed TLR and its been a complete 180 and just regression.
Remember when Anderson ran his mouth about locking down the Al central for the next decade? Lol, won a division title the year Minnesota and Cleveland were decimated by injuries.
No? When did he say that?
as a cub fan this was a very great viewing experience
Great content. You should have way more subscribers, was surprised when I looked.
It’s so nice to have a video like this done about a division rival
As a lifelong suffering Sox fan, I can tell you that they started this rebuild in 2006. This is what happens when teams attempt to build through their “systems” instead of simply purchasing talent through free agency. One or two prospects per season is fine, but the rest need to be certain winners… look at the Dodgers, Astros, Yankees, RedSox, Rays, Braves, etc., etc., etc. It’s funny that all 5 of the Chicago big four sports teams are in rebuild mode - at the same time…
Blackhawks will get Bedard.
What is the White Sox equivalent?
@@spudskie3907 the white Sox getting Frank Thomas with the first overall, pretty much helped the team be good in the early 90s, could’ve had a World Series appearance in 1994
It's hard to blame management and ownership when even the rankings had those players in the top 100 list. Everybody thought those guys would be pretty good if not stars. They didn't pan out and now it looks like a lot of people graded those players wrong, not just CWS management.
As a Yankees fan who always scopes out the contenders, I thought that White Sox team in 2021 was gonna be a super team. I’m surprised they didn’t re-sign Rodon, and I thought for sure Kopech was gonna turn into one of the best pitchers in baseball. They really never truly had a star slugger besides Abreu in the shortened season. They needed Moncada, Jimenez, Robert, Vaughn, or Burger to pop and they never did. Kopech never becoming their stopper either. With Cease having such a bad year, and Lynn and Giolito barely serviceable, they might be looking at another rebuild. That Benitendi signing is looking really bad right now with his power effectively extinct.
Sox made all the mistakes the cubs did post-2016. Way too much focus on power and not enough on contact, having a line up constantly in flux, and refusal to supplement a team with FA signings. After 2021, 2022 was the perfect moment for the Sox to announce that they were back for more and make a big FA signing. Instead they let Carlos Rodon walk for nothing (not even a compensation pick) and did little else beyond Joe Kelly.
Why did the White Sox rebuild fail?
The short answer: Jerry Reinsdorf
The long answer: Jerry Reinsdorf
Many teams plan, build, trade and buy a World Series Championship. For the CWS, they rely on the science of happenstance.
That 2021 team had a good record, but they consistently lost to better competition. I think I heard that they only won one road series against an above .500 team ALL season. It was clear that this team could not beat good teams. And, somehow, Rick Hahn thought it would be a good idea to go "all in" on the 2021 team by trading away a top 5 draft pick in exchange for a second closer who routinely struggled with new teams. Somehow that made sense. That was the day the team went from climbing uphill to going downhill.
Having to listen to the “thanks Cubs” stuff after the Eloy trade and how smarmy the Sox fans were talking about how they’d be a dynasty, seeing them fail so miserably brings me great pleasure.
No Sox fan said they we’re going to be a dynasty 💀 I think you’re mistaking the pathetic cub fans who claimed THEY were a dynasty after 2016, only to choke and tear everything down. Btw, how are the cubs doing so far this year? It’s been crickets as of late on the north side
Something semi important to know was they also got Dane Dunning in the Adam Eaton trade who was apart of their 2020 rotation then traded for Lance Lynn who you said that they signed as a free agent.
3 people - KW, Hahn and Jerry! The 3 Stooges, and 3 things: Scouting, development and management. What a joke this organization has become, and letting Jason go was the last straw!!! 😡
My brother in-law’s two favorite teams are the St. Louis Cardinals and Chicago White Sox. Needless to say, he’s not enjoying this baseball season so far. I think the Cardinals can turn things around but I have no faith in the White Sox getting good any time soon. My two favorite teams are the Pirates and Rays so I’ve been enjoying it.
Taking a critical look at at the team the past 5 years, and hindsight is always 20/20, a large number of wins came from beating some incredibly bad Royals and Tigers teams that they got to face 19 times each. Front office wise I wished Hahn would have been better then Kenny Williams but it’s more of the same, not having a backup plan incase things don’t work out. The front office desperately needs to be completely replaced but I don’t think Jerry is willing to take that step. As frustrating as they have been this year they’re still my team.
Well, now Hahn and Williams are gone.
So many teams tried to replicate what the cubs did and tore their teams down from the bottom up and started fresh with new prospects but what those teams failed to realize that the cubs had on their side was luck… lots and lots of luck. You have a 50/50 shot with prospects if that… the cubs got lucky that a lot of their prospects panned out and then add in a few good trades and they had a good albeit short run and then teams tried to replicate it but can’t.
Just look at my tigers. Shackled by shitty contracts and put all our eggs in prospects but where our ownership failed was when we found a good prospect, we traded them for three mediocre prospects for some reason… I’m just glad miggys contract will be gone after this year and we can finally move forward.
Love this video well done and well said. White Sox fan all my life and will always be (37yo.) To me the biggest problem is drafting/ player development and international signing. I’m always jealous of the “small” market teams that contend every year and keep bringing drafted talent up from the minors or making trades and developing players through their system. The only White Sox draft pick to win an MVP? Frank Thomas
Also the Sox want every Cuban player in international signing. It hasn’t worked and needs to stop. They’ve been doing it for over 10 years. Maybe look at some Japan, DR , Mexico, PR, VZ players? Japanese players for White Sox? 2
Tadahito Iguchi
Shingo Takatsu
This franchise is sad. Rick Hahn is to blame, he’s the GM. Maybe Jerry has been saving up all these years to give Ohtani the $600 million and fool us all? Lol not likely.
I honestly don’t think the White Sox have international scouts in any other country but Cuba.
*I forgot to mention notable 1st round draft picks off the top of my head:
Jeff Liefer
Joe Borchard
Mark Johnson
Kip Wells
Courtney Hawkins
Jared Mitchell
Lance Broadway
Carson Fulmer
Zack Collins
Gordon Beckham
Royce Ring
Zack Burdi
As a white sox fan we have the worst ownership in baseball same ownership since 81
Sox fans won’t easily forget the AWFUL collapse of the 2012 season. They held first place in the division nearly the whole season, but then collapsed in September and gave up the division to the Tigers who went on to make it to the World Series. That Sox team was really good until it mattered most. Very disappointing year. All downhill from there as far as I’m concerned.
Been a fan since this video was suggested on my UA-cam home page
The only thing that could save the team would be signing Shohei Ohtani.
But he's likely either going to the Dodgers, Padres, Yankees, or the Mets. As if those teams need anymore help
Still a White Sox Fan! I have a faith! Trust me; it's tough but our commentators and everyone around keep it going for us!! We will see the day!
the other day i asked my mom why i was raised a white sox fan instead of a cubs fan and all she said is the suffering builds character
I thought that the White Sox would make a huge jump after making the playoffs in 2020-2021, but nope
And now it's likely they're headed for another rebuild as they're 38-53 as of typing as much of their core is headed for free agency this fall - what a wasted 4 years.
I had fun in game 3 vs houston ☹️
What went wrong is the white sox managment is horrible. They finally made the playoffs and have a fun young culture and what do they do? Fire the coach that got them there and hire old Tony La russa whi completely killed all their momentum and turned the White Sox from a fun team with potential to a boring team managed by a grumpy old man.
Please. Rick Renteria was not a good manager. The only winning season he managed was the COVID season where he FINISHED 3RD IN THE DIVISION and he proceeded to fumble a wild card vs the As horribly. TLR came in and made them win 93 games and take the division for the first time in years and lost to an actual good team (The Astros)
@@burningphoneix TLR made them not have fun and lets not forget he completely killed off all the momentum Yermin Mercedes had to his great start by not having his own back in front of the media because his old grandpa ass is still stuck in the 70’s.
@@TripzIsAwesome Yermin Mercedes is a bum that had a hot few weeks. He cannot play any position out of DH. "Having Fun" did not win the Sox games nor will it ever. These babies need to stop "having fun" and start "winning games"
they should have been the 90's Yankees if these picks and trades work out - great video
First vid. Pretty solid.
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Jose Abreau must really have been that presence in the locker room, look at them without him
They should of kept him for MORAL & LEADERSHIP.
I THINK HE WANTED TOO STAY. SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOT TOO TALK IT OUT.
BUT, KENNY WILLIAMS HAS TOO GO. OR JERRY HAS TOO SELL THE TEAM. YOU GOT 7 CHAMPIONSHIPS(6 WITH THE BULLS/1 WITH THE WHITE SOXS) YOU WILL GO DOWN AS GREAT OWNER BECAUSE OF THAT. WE NEED FRESH IDEAS& NEW MANAGEMENT TOO GET BOTH THE BULLS & SOXS OUT OF THIS FUNK.
And now they’re only 5.5 games out of first. Great video though!
@@thewholeboard-ru1kx And now 11. Point was that the AL Central is terrible, and they still had a shot there for a while
I've been saying this for awhile now, until Jerry sells the team to someone who actually cares about winning, sadly we will never see this team truly succeed besides maybe a few miracle years here and there. Hopefully better days are ahead, but I'm not too optimistic
After the allegations that came out after the 2023 trade deadline, the failure of this team makes a lot more sense
Tony La Russa was what went wrong for the White Sox. I watched him turn my dbacks upside down while he in the front office. Idk why the Sox hired him in the first place
this is the first year of me being a white sox fan and well right now we are 41-57 and three in the al central and i still have hope and them so let's go white am with you all the way ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Good video. You should have mentioned Sleppy La Russa and the "put engel in" fan
I was at that game where Robert Jr didn't run it out and everyone around was giving the team hell especially when they gave up 10 runs in the 7th
I am a White Sox fan. You are 100% right on this team.
I still think Yermín Mercedes should've been kept on the Sox in 2021.
Griffey won the White Sox that tie breaker game to make the playoffs against the twins with a defensive play. I'll take that as his like contribution any day.
As a Cubs fan there is nothing i enjoy more than watching the white Sox fall flat on their face lol.... Hope they move to Nashville soon! 😂😂
So....they sucked before LaRussa....and sucked after he left....but somehow he was a bad manager. I guess all of those errors were his fault also.
Exactly. People are delusional in thinking this squad had a good chance at winning the WS if not for TLR when they were only winning under him. The only reason Rick Renteria ever made the post season was because he only played the Comedy Central divisions in a shortened COVID season and then proceeded to make a clown of himself in the Wildcard vs the A's
This channel will easily hit the 200k+ subcribers in no time. Great stuff man
I love how they traded Sale and Eaton, and both of those players would win the World Series within the next 2 years
Yeah what a joke
That’s how trading works though. A struggling team gives up some of its star players to a more successful team looking for a piece in the roster that could potentially take them deep into the postseason, and in exchange the struggling team receives prospects that they can hopefully build up to create their own playoff roster.
I'm watching this one year later, and it's even worse now
Completely forgot Griffey Jr. played for the White Sox. You're right though. If you look at the talent on this roster, you'd expect them to consistently be near the top of the AL Central. The division is kind of weak. I'm a diehard Guardians fan but I'm not oblivious to their issues. They overachieved last year. They really didn't have any business winning the division with the youngest roster in the league. But that speaks to the state of the Central and the mediocrity of KC, Detroit, Sox and Twins. Cleveland beat up on their division opponents which is what you'd think Chicago would be doing.
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As a Cubs fan. Watching our rebuild take place paid off since we had one young core and a WS ring. But the playoffs lacked us since we were roughed out by age. And bad luck. Here's an example.
Cubs
2015: Won WC, Won NLDS, Lost NLCS
2016: Won NLDS, Won NLCS, Won WS
2017: Won NLDS, Lost NLCS
2018: Lost WC
2019: Missed Playoffs
2020: Lost WC
2021: Missed Playoffs, Traded players at deadline
White Sox
2020: Lost WC
2021: Lost NLDS
2022: Missed Playoffs
I think some speculation is free agency, age and injuries. Like Rizzo was good as a first basemen for the Cubs but he had a glaring issue. Back Issues. Rodon was good, but injuries held him back. If anything. Rebuilds are nice, but sometimes these things kill you.
2020 was such a horseshit year. Wasn’t worth having a season. I take zero stock in that Dodgers 2020 WS win. Anyone else?
As a Giants fan, me neither.
Lol I was at that giants game when they hit 4 home runs in a row. I really thought this year was gonna be different not gonna lie. Although It could somehow be saved I don't have hope. Man it sucked being at the first home game of the season man. The second I saw all those homers I knew it was not gonna be good.
I hate being a Sox fan thats for sure. 🤦♂️
Tony la Russa is a big reason. You cant have a young (not to care about the unwritten rules) team and a old fashioned manager
@Mao LeBron I could careless about the white Sox, I have my own pain with the cardinals. But you can’t tell me you thought those two styles of baseball would have worked
Outside of a few bright spots (Sox in ‘05, Cubs in ‘16, Blackhawks’ 3 cups from 2010-2015), us fans are constantly put through these long rebuilds and horrible management.
This year has been particularly painful as a Sox fan because how quickly we went from one of the best teams in the league to one of the worst. 2021 was so fun (outside of TLR) and really felt like we had finally arrived to begin our window of contention 😢 Jerry needs to sell the team
Personally I think there are 3 main reasons why this rebuild failed.
1. Poor front office in free agency.
Consider who they have signed as free agents the past 5 years or so compared to who was available. They could have focused on younger players in free agency or dished out more money for someone who was actually going to make an impact. Guys like Dallas Keuchel, Yasmani Grandal, Liam Hendricks, Lance Lynn, AJ Pollock, Josh Harrison, Kendall Graveman, all these guys were past their primes when the Sox signed them originally.
2. Poor manager selection
Tony La Russa is a big reason why this team lost anything they had going for them in terms of momentum. The ball stopped rolling the second he came to town. Yes they made the playoffs his first year, but does anyone remember how bad they were the 2nd half of the year? All I have to say is that Rick Renteria oversaw this rebuild from the start, and that team played its heart out for him. Not so much for "oops i fell asleep in the 5th inning again" Tony. and now we got a guy who has no business managing an MLB team, trying to put all these broken pieces back together again. This is the "new" answer. 3 managers in 4 years is a problem for any team.
3. Injuries
This team could still perform at a high level with the lack of performance from their top free agent signings because they have a young core. Eloy, TA, Robert, Moncada, cease, Kopech, and Crochet. What do they all have in common? They've maybe all been available to play at the same time a total of 25 games in the past 3 years.... This young core cannot stay healthy for anything.
Such a cliche statement I guess but they never should have fired guillen they played so hard for him
I miss him so much. We just need a manager that coaches with as much passion as him. A guy that knows how to get the most out of his players
@@LaChino7 LOL! ROFL! He only won y'all ONE Season! Rather, he BROUGHT y'all a Championship from Bud Selig. And you're whining he could win you Championships? Face it Jim, the 2005 White Sox were a Flash in the Pan. You've been losers since then. Failed to make the Pennant in 2006 and haven't made it back to the WS since then. Not even Once.
Signing Grandal and Keuchel were the first stupid moves.
Thank for your Tatis Jr. CWS!!
Good video for a bit of history on the team, but the analysis was weak. Can basically sum up that portion of the video as “Yoan Eloy and Luis didn’t pan out”. Yeah, anyone who watches this team knows that they’re underperforming. Also not nearly enough praise for Vaughn who’s been killing it this year at first
People don't seem to want to talk about the "intangible" aspect of baseball that exists and affects players. Injuries are the catalyst that have led to all the issues the Sox have. No other team in baseball has had their heart and core be injured 50% of the time for 3 years straight. This team is frustrated at the consistent AAA lineups we're forced to throw out and having to pick up everyone's slack since they're injured. After 2-3 years it DEFLATES morale. The players are dead inside and mentally drained. There's no amount of stats that can measure morale we can only measure the stats that are CAUSED BY deflated morale. There needs to be a video about this.