Explaining Top Players' Gear Builds from The Big House 10
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It's probably worth noting that Stealth Jump only reduces the distance that your opponents can see your jump landing point, it doesn't completely stop it appearing
How far exactly? I never really used it after the nerf from splatoon 2
@@kristopherhayes486 idk the exact numbers, but it fades in and out at around dualies max range, So basically people will have a harder time nading your respawn, cuz the range they can see is shorter than the max throw distance on most nades
Which is why i use landing roll.
Yes but the ranges you'll be at to actually see jumps when using stealth jump never happen in normal conditions of pro play.
It's ///max/// range splattershot. (e: even then, using stealth jump makes the circle difficult to see at max splattershot range.) If a splattershot gets that close to your anchor, something has gone seriously wrong in the first place.
Drop roller is potentially better pick for the temporary 30 AP (10 in ink resist, walk and swim speed)
0:06 Chara: "IT'S MY ASS-KICKING OUTFIT, BITCH"
And this is why we need to be able to wear any cosmetic gear over the gear with abilities!!
ayyy the prozd reference
@@andrealeonardo417 The main way people work around it is... let's be honest, they farm. Beauty is pain, so you got to put in some work before you can go in while both looking good, and having a good loadout.
@@andrealeonardo417 I mean, it's why the ability to replace the main ability with a different one using chunks is a thing now, although it takes time to get the chunks necessary
@@andrealeonardo417 And we can! Splatnet and the new main-ability replacement system work great! (Though I wish the cost was 40 chunks instead of 45).
seeing goo tuber being played in the big house tournament was surreal
Better to flex with Goo than to just Bep everywhere
when you think about it it’s more about missile being played so i guess not too surreal
@@XDD50Hz sadly
Too bad the reason its being picked is because well... missiles
missiles, baby!
Another thing to note in anarchy is that LDE still activates in the last 30 seconds even if you are winning. So a 0 point losing team still has to deal with the winning team having LDE active in the last 30 seconds and overtime as they try to make a comeback.
that's kinda messed up
Is it the full 24 points in the 30 seconds or 1 point at 30, 2 points on 29 Etc. ?
@@TherionX2. it's 24 the moment the clock says 30 until the game ends
@@harmless9336 bruhhh that's busted
I know that there will be comments about suggestions to nerf the popular abilities being used in pro games (as it happens in pretty much all multi-player games when something is popular), but I hope that the maps get updated to be more bigger in general and having more flank options instead of the rather small, narrow, and very open maps we have currently.
That said, thanks for the video. Very informative for those curious on this topic.
mahi mahi is the worst offender, super small, little cover, and easy to spawn camp, i want at least the option to play the old version, same goes for hammerhead.
release moray towers cowards
Yeah, I think the map design is the biggest balance issue in the game right now. Looking forward to seeing some new maps and some reworks later in the game's lifespan.
let's just hope for the best for flounder and that new stage that's confirmed to be coming in a later patch (hopefully it's more like Museum rather than Mahi or Hammerhead)
@@beastmode4tm They nerfed Flounder's height from 2 to 3 storeys but I really hope it doesn't ruin it
it’s worth noting that drop roller still has a niche on inkjet and zipcaster weapons. chara used it a few times when he picked octobrush
A few Tri Sloshers were using it to
Lowkey I feel like drop roller should be removed from the game and just be a base ability of Inkjet and Zipcaster. Not super jumps just the return jump of those specials
i had no idea last ditch effort was so good, tbh the game did not explain it well 😭😭
Yeah i never take it off of my gear loadouts
I miss my octoling shades from Splatoon 2. I always wore it with my Black Inky rider to look like the terminator. Well, at least the 18K Aviators are a decent replacement
@@t.funkthecoolmunk5472 oh my god, same! I also used the Double Egg Shades a lot, i got really surprised it was on the app catalogue with lde the moment i booted the game up on the first time. Murch is terrible at getting good gear now too :c
Busted in comp modes, shit in turf war
@@glitch6996 idk if it straight up sucks, people use it in comp turf war too
Been playing Splatoon since original but I've learned SO much from your videos. Amazing work!
*sees Comeback & QR* "Oh, this person is planning on dying a lot"
My own gear: *Comeback, QR, SS* "Yeah...I wouldn't know anything about that"
I probably need some of this. I'm an aerospray main that runs into fights I can't take
*The frontliner with RP*: "I just hate the Tacticooler and want to ruin it for everyone."
@@GoIdheart Me who mains the Dapple Dualies when I see RP on someone: "Well at least I packed some extra QR and SS!"
Is SS sub saver?
@@rohanisya2 Special Saver. It reduces the penalty for special lost when you get splatted
I somehow never thought about LDE in ranked since it only says what it about does in turf war, if that were true in ranked it would suck. But starting triggering at already 50 score in ranked sounds insane
Also swimming particles without ninja squid and the squid form when it's not in ink are already less visible than splatoon 2, it really throws me off often
Wishing the splatanas get more use (also the ultra stamp fix).
Great work!
The only 2 splatanas aren't very good.
I hope they add more weapons in updates.
When they revealed splatanas I really wanted to play them, but after trying them in game, they're very underwelming.
@@shailynx9626 the stamper is definitely better than the base but yeah both are fairly bad
The spin can be fixed by looking up during the swing
Even if stamp were fixed I doubt wiper would be worth using over stamper (unless stamp is completely overtuned). Thing needs a new kit asap
Stamper is more towards the middle rn and really just needs slightly faster swings
@@kwayke9 there is a tech but it’s not even technically supposed to exist and will probably be patched out fully but you can kill really quickly when coming out of ink if you spam the button when doing a normal swing and it will just spam the swing 3 times with very little lag (this was patched to be harder in one of the updates so I think it’s unintentional)
7:45 i think the way flc talked about this (tetra dualies qr builds specifically) was a lot of weapons struggle to get in, but if a tetra dualies rushes in and engages the enemy, then weapons who struggle to get in now can and have the bit of time they need to set up and take space. Basically the ultimate skirmisher
0:00 (eating cereal) naruto will never have drip
Bagel be like "Bombs, you want it? It's yours my friend!"
Bagel out here playing splat bombs with the sub weapon of splattershot jr
I'm currently using a build like that right now and it's really fun to throw out two bombs at once. Last Ditch Effort isn't even required for the Jr. specifically, it's just a very nice bonus. Two mains and about 2-3 subs of Sub Saver is enough.
@@silxer3154 same, that playstyle is super fun. Additionally, by resetting your ink gauge with big bubbler, you essentially have a mini splat bomb rush with 4 bombs. It's like two specials in one :D
I like watching your vids because I played a lot of Splatoon 1 and kind of took a step back in Splatoon 2, so in 3 I've been needing a refresher. Your videos are easy to understand which I love
my main tactic in the prior two games was to loop around the edge of the map and ambush the enemy's spawn point, and i've been failing SO HARD in splatoon 3 because they totally took all the advantage of that away, haha. i guess it's for the best. i need to try other things and get better at supporting the team. thanks for the tips, by the way- i'll definitely need to get ninja squid on my gear
Yeah, same here. I only started playing Splatoon 3 during the first Splatfest, and I’ve only recently realized that I need to revise my strategy as my old one really isn’t working in 3 well at all.
Another mindset that helped me be convinced to use LDE (and Quick Respawn) is that if you're already winning, you're in a good spot for the game to not need LDE, but LDE and QR give you options in the situation where you are losing or being camped out to give you a fighting chance. As important as abilities are, the game is gonna be determined by the players' skill and collaboration. The abilities are like a little bonus.
I saw a good amount of builds with Last Ditch Effort, Ninja Squid, and Stealth Jump as the main core or at least a combination of at least 2. Makes me feel good about trying to make pures of my gear.
Thanks for explaining LDE for the Anarchy modes
I don’t find myself swimming much as I mainly use Hydra. I run LDE, RePun, and Stealth Jump. I may switch Stealth Jump with Quick Super Jump though. But honestly it’s cool to see the more expert view on why certain abilities are used.
Iv found object shredder to be really nice on hydra personally as a sort of 'anti-specials' weapon. As hydra is my go to for rainmaker it makes breaking the shield a breeze.
What subs do you use?
@@andrewpetrousky7793 3 Quick Super Jumps. 3 Ink Saver Main. 3 Ink Recovery.
interesting choices, I usually run 2 mains of run speed and 1 main of swim speed for hydra
Yeah for sure switch out stealth with quick
I could probably make a clipped video of the most important and hilarious pieces of the entire stream if no one else does it. If I have enough time during college and when I get a good editing software.
“Hold on, before I tell you about gear I gotta drag this samurai bitch through the mud first” 😂
best part about LDE is it comes default on the 18k aviators, good ability on even better drip
I did not know LDE also worked on ranked! They should reword or explain that better in game.
Thanks for the tips! I did not realize the insane boost that LDE has. I thought it was based on time alone
I've found for myself being a weirder case than most players with my play style. While I main flingza and backline some I have also found myself also being able to do aggro in certain situations or just me for some reason being the only one to ever climb on the tower in tower control so my gear is just ink refill(flingza in kind of ink hungry but, not enough for ink saver main), swim speed( it's actually really noticable and not something I've really used before but, it has proved really helpful), and special charge up(for well obvious reasons and no it's not my fault they put missiles on my main weapon). So Idk how many players do this but I find myself in kind of a mixed play style of both offense and defense
Chara really pulled up like "This is my ass kicking outfit bitch"
I figured intensify action would be better than it is because of it's improvements to squid rolling. After hearing your explanation of LDE though, that's obscenely good for one ability.
Wow, actual Comp Play is completely different from online Ranked play; not a single Blaster or any Intensify Action! I see IA so often I assumed it was popular in Comp, is losing less accuracy while airborne not as nuts as I think it is? Maybe there was some in the Slots in this footage, I dunno.
I didn't know LDE was based on the enemy team's score in Ranked, I'll have to start using that, so thanks!
Comeback is so underrated. Buffs you get after getting splatted are HUGE.
LDE is usually better for ranked but Comeback for Turf is just so much better. I know that last minute is most important but when you are frontliner and after being splatted you can jump in action and just push even harder.
Nothing like quick respawn gear for when your having a bad day. sure you die alot but quick respawn allows you to try again sooner.
wepons like the splattershot pro like quick respawn as you don't need that much gear for it. (I personally go with 2 mains quick respawn, 1 main ink resist, 2 sub swim speed, 1 sub quick super jump, 1 sub of Ink recovery and 1 sub special saver. the rest is up to you. but recromend more quick respawn/ Quick super jump.)
Thanks for the discussion. I like knowing some rules-of-thumb to build off of. Also cool seeing that you checked the Treehouse streams, I might do that too
Back when I was younger playing the original Splatoon, I remember that I used to run ninja squid on slayer builds without knowing it wasn't optimal.
I didn't expect that six years later, it would be literally part of the meta in Splatoon 3.
imo, I think LDE is entirely weapon dependent and I don't understand why, for example, a flingza roller would ever need it as opposed to something like swim speed, special charge up, or special saver. It's not even that ink-hungry of a weapon. I would understand it for things like chargers, explosher, dynamo, etc, but I don't get the appeal of it at all for slayers or skirmishers.
Comeback gives you 60 ap for 20 seconds every time you die. It’s great for any shooters and dualies
Just subbed to your channel last week - really enjoying it so far. Thanks for sharing so much great info.
Ninja Squid's only change from 2 is that in 2 the *bonus* swim speed from the ability Swim Speed Up was 80% and they changed it back to 100% in 3.
Ninja Squid's base swim speed with 0 AP of Swim Speed Up equipped is exactly the same in both games.
Can you explain the AP effects of Comeback?
Fun story; had a 12-win streak during the Deserted Island splatfest, and I gave my splatfest tee the punisher main ability… it was such a rush to mow people down with my Hydra Splatling in the name of Team Gear
My problem with Ninja Squid is snipers with scopes still see me and I get sniped 90% of the time anyway. I'm S+ rank but no pro player so I could be wrong but I see more value running swim speed up and slow swimming when I need to sneak around anyway. This also makes people (in solo Q) less weary as they see your not running Ninja Squid plus slow swimming leaves no trace at all.
Thats why DUDE just runs speed on his .52
Tbh, When it comes to gear, I simply use the ability that neutralizes the thing I find most annoying . (Ex. I use ink recovery up and ink saver because I often run out of ink quickly, forget to refill and get splatted.) I never seriously thought about gear before tbh 🤷♀️
thanks for the info. this how you stay smart. information is also like money to smart people their eyes gets big and they smile.........
also i got jump at the very end of splatfest. i almost made it to grass ruler 4 mainly cuz i still dont know how to super jump and i dont how to practice it. i made one fire nation friend but they'll be busy. oh nvm i just saw it the bubble.😈❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥💚💚💚💚💙💙💙💙
This is definitely the when your gear makes you strong but it looks dumb altogether meme
off topic but i’m really glad to see this channel growing and more people playing splatoon.
I always thought lde was a weird pick because the description only says the last 30 seconds and most matches in solo q end way before that
Chara is the gear MeMe, where it does not match nor does it look good but it has all the best stats.
new sub! been playing splatoon since the original came out and I didn't know lots of this stuff! great content that's easy to understand, keep it up! also didn't know my gear was so bad 😳
I love your content, I just wish during detailed explanations, the sub sound/following notification sound was turned down or turn off. Sometimes it sounds louder than your talking and it’s distracting. The graphic is fine and very cute, it’s the woomy! Otherwise thank you for this very informative video.
Chara was the guy that didn't know if it was a costume, casual,or fancy party so he went with a mix of all
the first comment about chara's drip reminds me of splatoon 1. back when there was no splatnet, no chunks, and everyone looked like bargain bin rejects.
Wait for ranked LDE isn't just increased stats for the last 30 seconds on the clock?? Times like this I wish the game did a better job communicating these things...
And here I've been, sleeping on LDE and Stealth Jump.
What they should do for LDE is the opposite of what their doing. If like down by 10 points, have 1 AP. And it would scale to something like down by 25 points where it maxes out. That'll be a lot better while keeping what keeps LDE's identity.
i keep on walking directly into bombs so i have bomb defense on every slot available. i am not planning on learning to avoid bombs
ProChara looks like he about to dunk on them shinobi
the difference object shredder makes is that it takes 2 shots with an e liter to destroy a wavebreaker without OS and it takes 1 with OS.
If you ask me, a charger running object shredder is thinking more about not getting invalidated by bubbler than anything else
Yes I've seen alot of people using ninja said I lts the new meta.Didnt know it was buffed
Yes
Failing at real school. PASSING at squid school. Aw yeah.
Thank you, teacher.
What sub abilities should i use with lde, Ninja squid, and stealth jump?
That depends heavily on what weapon you're using. I recommend checking sendou.ink/builds for anything more specific than the analysis I'm doing.
I really hope they eventually nerf LDE, it was way too strong in Splatoon 2 and it received no changes in the jump to Splatoon 3. Ninja squid didn’t need the buff either and I hope they revert that change eventually. I just really want to see more variety in gear builds
Respawn punisher on splash-o-matic is top tier
No
@@elijahealks6098 yes I’m too dirty with it
-> add LDE to my load out when I get home. Got it
@@StarmenRock I've just not had the time to farm money to get the app gear on top of shop gear, else I'd probably already be there lol. I'm pretty sure I've got the chunks to make LDE, I just never paid it much mind because it wasn't great at the launch of S1 from what I remember
@@StarmenRock its more limitations of grad school and the only people I know who play are in a different time zone, so I make do. Had the chunks for LDE, get to keep my vaporwave aesthetic going lol
@@fluffytheostrich3878 good luck with grad school! hope you get to enjoy the game a lot even with those limitations. I'm glad you managed to get LDE!
@@StarmenRock thank you!
I’m thinking of adding some respawn punisher to my gear for backlining just to be extra annoying with the few kills I get. I don’t go up close with shooters so I don’t need ninja squid and all that bogus. I’m already sneaky and I’m not competitive. It just needs to be good enough.
Chara with the Sendou outfit.
Could you explain ap and how abilities scale?
Yo the free melee shirt is hitting different right about now. You love to see it
Tbh for my weapons I have a good idea of the Skills I want, usually. But I have no idea what level of AP to actually shoot for
I feel good knowing that my weapon is one of the main reasons to use a main ability.
Lol i didnt know big house had splatoon there thats so cool i was just watching smash last night
10:24 why is the Splash running sub power up? Doesn’t it only increase the range of burst bomb? And if so, is it worth not running SJ for a bit more range?
Was thinking the same thing, seems like a huge waste
Personally I like using it because it makes the splash easier to run as an anchor when I need to, not sure if that’s why pros use it
It does that by making the burst bombs go faster, which is particularly useful with the burst bomb since it also makes it easier to aim at close range. Another major reason for it is so that you can snipe people with burst bombs if you want to, as burst bombs with sub power up has more range than the splash.
@@blehrg8638 huh, I'll consider running it next time I play Splash then! Idk if I'll put it over SJ, but still
I actually love a main of SPU on burst bomb. It gets your burst bomb to about jet squelcher range, which lets you contest a lot of backliners from positions where they'd otherwise just get free shots. I used to run it all the time on my vdualies and splash builds in S2
Somehow, players are still able to perfectly place bombs under my Stealth Jump. Can they still see the arrow, or do they just place bombs for safety?
Stealth jump doesn’t completely hide the marker. It hides it from far away, but if they get close to it they can see it
I think the ring on the ground still shows up just not the big arrow above it that tells everyone and their cousin that you’re landing there.
Chara is dripped out of his mind
Thanks for telling us why we should run LDE
Does Thermal Ink as a main have any noticable comp viability? Does the thought of losing your opponent seem like a non issue at that level, or take the place of Ninja Squid make it unattractive even if useful?
Based on my limited knowledge, there's just not a lot of weapons that can benefit much from it and it's situational, either way. The effect of Thermal only kicks in from a certain distance, so it's mostly useless for short-range weapons, and its usefulness hinges on the target surviving. Anything with enough killing power is not likely to benefit, so it mostly sees its use-case on weapons that don't splat reliably at range. Stuff like Jet Squelcher or the Tri-Stringer to an extent. Additionally, it doesn't apply on indirect hits, so the Stringer's explosions or Blaster AOE don't even count.
And lastly, I'm told that at a high enough level, you start getting an idea of where your opponents go if they get away after being hit, so you might feel it unnecessary. It's just a bit of a gimmick.
I'm sure your reasoning also has something to do with it, though. Like, when Ninja Squid keeps you from getting sniped as much, I imagine that quickly becomes high priority for a lot of builds.
Personally, I kind of like it for the few weapons where it makes sense, but I can see why players would typically prefer something with more reliable pay-off.
9:12
Turns out Bomb Rush is still in the game according to Bagel.
It's so weird. I'm sure that LDE is good on Splatlings, but I just don't see it. To me it feels like running speed and full game Ink saver would be much more important than the Boost from LDE, or the movement augmenting given form Stealth jump or ninja squid. And are the Splatlings really that outclassed by the E-liter? As from these clips, no-one there was running any of them.
There were multiple hydra players in the tournament, it’s just that those games weren’t shown in this video
@@Randomness-hz7kj Alright, thank you for the information.
I didn't realize that LDE was just that good!
Chara running the confused anime fan drip
The chara drip is immaculate
1:30 gear can mean a win or lose in a comp
Can you do a squid rolls tip video
Many people are struggling getting used to it
THAT’S what last ditch effort does???
If I was to have swim speed as 2 main abilities and not subs would it minus from the deduction that stealth takes away from? Does it make sense to stack 2 main abilities? For example have swim speed as my main ability for 2 articles of clothing? Would that be swim speed +20 instead of +10?
I don't understand quite how we know LDE functions the same in splatoon 2, considering that the description of it tells us very little. Can someone shed some light on that?
Do you have a video about how LDE works in Splatoon 3 or even 2?
0:30 bro has drip fym
Thank you!
I wish you could make a more comprehensive overview of builds. I know you think it's not important, but I don't think you realize how clueless and lost new players are with these things.
Intro funny as fuck lmao
Chara has the dumbers gear haha
cool, didn't know LDE was so good
Will there be a follow up video for the sub gear ?
I thought lde only activated in the last 30 secs, now I'm gonna get that straight on my explosher, is it for headgear only.
so if ninja squid is different in splatoon 3, how much swim speed up does it take to negate the swim speed reduction of ninja squid now?
You've probably figured it out by now, but just in case someone else is wondering the same thing:
Light weapon: 1 main 4 sub
Medium weapon: 5 subs
Heavy weapon: between 1 and 2 subs
holy shit I had no idea LDE was that good
I did NOT know how OP last ditch effort was, the game does a horrible job at explaining it honestly (probably by design but idk)
hey im new to the splatoon pro play scene can somebody tell me what are the best twitch channels to watch top play?