At least with Vaughn being done as lazily as possible, you can just leave off the visor and the only thing to distinguish him from the others is his rank piece on his chest. After the first pack, just let the doubles of him blend in - 4 clones per pack grows your army that bit quicker
@shorelord1175 yeah true, I'm not going to complain too much. I wish the helmets were the old style, but I'll take them all matching and looking uniform
Indeed, if people really do want accuracy they can just hit a CAC or other third party store to get a more accurate figure of Vaughn. Even with the visor he can be passed off as a generic sergeant or other high ranking officer. I believe that this is the approach Lego should take going forward with clone BPs. It achieves the best of both worlds by allowing collectors to army build and hardcore clone fans to have an appropriately adequate figure of a named, notable character.
I feel like if they made the helmet holes ONLY for commanders and named figures like rex fox and cody but just kept the normal clones normal we could have something to work with
@@MandRproductions let's just hope they learn this now and fix it rather than not and spend 5+ more years doing the same mistake only to fix it at the last second.. oh god
Or maybe they couldve repositioned the hole in the correct position, it wouldn't affect the rangefinder piece, the binoculars piece is new so they couldve made it the correct position / median position between p1 & p2 helmet hole height, and they should make a new piece for the visor, as the one we have is too outdated imo, it's a relic from when pauldrons and waistcapes were plastic piece, it's too blocky, and we should get a thinner, slicker visor piece imo
@themelon_1785 The helmet holes are placed accurately for the visors, which go above the little ear covers, and if Lego put the holes in those ear covers, then the macrobinoculars would be incompatible with Phase 1 helmets, which would be stupid.
I’ve been collecting both Lego Star Wars and Mega Construx Halo for years and something I’ve noticed, especially recently, is that Mega will go the extra mile in detail and design of both their figures and sets and they seem to care a whole lot more for their community vs Lego who seem more interested in giving as little for as much as they can get away with charging. Lego could learn a few things from their competitors.
I absolutely agree nick. As a mega and Lego fan it's insane how the tables have turned. Mandr should make a video on this topic of mega and Lego now or in a form of ask mandr.
That's probably because MEGA makes their sets in smaller quantities than Lego does and also has a slightly more niche community, whereas Lego makes absolutely massive quantities of sets that are distributed all over the globe and has a much larger fanbase.
Yeah Mega tends to be very open with their community compared to LEGO. With their recent fan vote the designer just shows off prototypes which is something LEGO rarely does.
I wish that too, but LEGO is a business and mainly does only what makes them profit. If consumers (us) by the lower quality product they will continue to produce products of the lower quality because they are still making a profit. They won't change unless us consumers as a whole decide to stop buying their product until they put in the effort that should be given to begin with.
@Pegasus_Gr I would actually hope that, if they do make a plain white clone battle pack, that at least one of the clones has helmet holes so I can have a plain clone with macrobinoculars or a visor.
@@apparentlyjeremy Totally, I remember a few years ago there was a rumor of a Mimban battle pack which, I guess, turned out to be nothing more than a rumor.
You say you don’t want named characters in battle packs but get mad when Lego puts a named character that can be easily changed into a normal clone for army building.
I seriously can’t believe that a “downside” of battle packs is including a name character. 90% of people who buy this set will have their parents buy them literally 1 set.
@@MandRproductionsI understand LEGO said that a battle pack is a army builder, but again a vast majority of people buying those sets can’t even afford to build armies of clones. LEGO cares more about the 12 year old asking their mom to buy a 1 off set first and foremost and they always will.
I feel like the only person in existence to not care about the holes in the helmet. Growing up with legos I'm use to having holes in the helmets or hats like the Bicorne, Tricorner, classic knight visor, turban, and so on. If anything, I'm glad the holes are there, I have all these 501st troopers and I'm just, man, I wish I can put stuff like a visor or a range finder on them.
yeah Agreed and while I also dont think the solution is perfect its not as much of an issue as mainly this community hear makes it out to be, the hate they get elsewhere is far less compared to his videos tbh
I agree with you, the helmet hole issue is ridiculous and has been talked to death. I get not liking or liking the holes depending on what you want the set for, I don't mind the holes that much, they look kinda off but they don't ruin the set for me.
@@RichardMontgomeryYT I'm afraid I do not understand, if there was only one hole you can't put a visor on, you can only use a range finder. I feel more people would be angry if lego did that.
@@Garinovitchyes obviously but they could have one clone with one helmet hole for rangefinder and the rest has 2 holes. Like in the 501st specialist battle pack the officer should have had one helmet hole
Just remake the og 2007 one. 3 b2s and 4 or 5 b1s. Personally I would have 2 B2s, 5 B1s and a owner or security droid. Builds would be a spider droid, droideka and a small carrier.
@@RichardMontgomeryYTI’d rather have 2 different packs, one for special units and one for normal ones: Special unit one having 3 B2’s, 1 droideka and 3 Commandos (2 normal ones and a captain commando). And a normal unit one having 2 B1 security, 2 B1 pilot, 2 B1 camouflage and 2 B1 officers (ik it might be too much to ask but B1 units are REALLY cheap to make when compared to figs and they usually add them everywhere so making a battlepack won’t cost as much as making completely new things)
At this point, I'd even take a battle pack of nothing but clones and B1s. Some kind of little 4 piece turret thing so Lego can fulfill their contractual obligation to not sell only SW minifigures, and 3 or 4 clones and 3 or 4 droids.
i dont think the helmet holes are a bad addition. they are meant of course for kids to have a cheap set to play with and the holes in the head make more customization for them.
I think the whole notion of Lego Star wars, or even Lego itself, being intended purely for children is silly. Generally, Lego seeks to satisfy both the older and younger consumer groups. The battle packs, while having, like you said, the function of being merely a "cheap set to play with" (as evidenced by the more childish build included), they also serve as a means through which the older consumer, who has the funds necessary, can buy multiple of them and create armies or large groups of them, after all, by the source material, these are army troopers. It's the same with microfighters, a kid gets a silly little build they can swoosh around, a collector gets a desirable character in a cheap set. I genuinely believe they have two intended purposes and this is financially beneficial for the company. I think you are wrong to dismiss a critique from the adult consumer side by saying it's just a toy meant for little kids, as that's not true.
@@user-fg3dz5kv7q i never said its only for little kids, but it is intended for them. the box says 6+, which doesnt mean that adults cant buy it and collect it, but does mean that it is targeted towards kids. helmet holes, while they may look ugly to some, are meant for kids to play with and customize clone troopers, not for adults to criticize. it is likely partly lazy work on legos end, but critiquing it as much as it gets critiqued is not deserved. it is a play function and works as such. no one else complains about stud shooters or flickfire missiles, even though they look ugly. thats because its clearly meant for kids to play with.
@@monstrblood6682 I know what you said, and I made a lengthy response explaining why it's targeted both towards younger and older consumers. Most people complain about stud shooters and flickfire missiles - if they're not properly implemented and it harms the overall look. You're wrong again. They had stud shooters at one point that minifigures could hold as blasters. I imagine you think that's a great play function for kids, however guess what, they removed them because it looked atrocious.
@@monstrblood6682 Great observation Mr. Skull emoji. I don't think they're particularly improperly implemented (now that's a tongue twister) but whatever. More importantly that's the part of the set that serves the purpose of satisfying the younger consumer base. An adult doesn't need an army of speeders or other goofy looking builds they've come up with for these, but they're there for the kid that gets a cheap set to play with, like you said. A kid doesn't need the helmet holes to be filled, but it should be there as it was in the past so that it is not off putting to the older collector who will get multiple of these. Lego doesn't want to make the figures more customizable for children, they want to save money by reusing the same mold.
Can we please be thankful that we got a captain vaughn figure it might not be the best but at least be thankful and just take off the visor for Mary building if your buying multiple it’s the same figure as the rest just with a visor so it’s the same in my opinion Lego made a smart choice for army building
So when it comes to using named clones, I did actually find a neat workaround that I'll use for this pack. I'm just going to swap Vaughn's torso with a 501st, so I can have some generic 501st captains, and turn the Vaugh into a 4th 332nd trooper
Considering Ahsoka's 332nd is really just a couple companies rather than a full Legion, one realistically doesn't need to buy too many of the sets. Just however many is needed for the intended MOC. For me, I am thinking of switching up the pieces: Buying 501st helmets for the bodies, while placing the 332nd helmets on 212th bodies / regular troopers. A custom togruta jedi from spare Ahsoka/Shaak-Ti/Togruta figures and I have a different orange themed Legion!
The thing with Vaughn is that, if you remove the visor, it will be a normal 332nd trooper except for the rank piece, so you could get 4 troopers per pack if you already have a vaughn.
I am not a fan of this set overall. I don't mind the idea of a 332nd battle pack but having the ugly helmet hole clones instead of the perfectly fine helmets from the aat is a shame. No reason to include a named character (Vaughn) in a battle pack too, but since they did the Vaughn figure is inaccurate which is a shame. Overall I'll probably purchase one of these maximum. No way I'm Army building with this
I also don’t get why they didn’t just retexture and recolor codys body. Like you had to change 1 design. I feel like they just didn’t care cuz vaughn isn’t as well known as cody so they thought we wouldn’t notice which is crazy.
Well I think you're missing the point, that's what people are annoyed at. Why make a vaughn if it really doesn't look like vaughn? They need to just make their minds up.
Swamp speeder is a specific type of vehicle. The broad name for them is an Infantry Support Platform (ISP). But yeah they weren’t seen in the siege of mandalore episodes lol
3:18 this is where the "its just a kids toy" argument really trips and falls into clown shoes. If they got it right in the past why cant they just get it right now?
It’s always been a bunch of idiots defending a billion dollar company on a false pretense. It’s not just a kids toy but that’s besides the point when you take 30 seconds to do any research into LEGO’s history, statements, and other “toy” brand qualities.
Lego: puts a named figure in a battle pack Some people: Awesome I can get them for cheap M and R: I don’t want an army of them LEGO: we will split the middle by making a named character that can be used as a normal clone trooper M and R: I still am mad LEGO: man shocker
@@MandRproductions sorry what I was trying to say was that LEGO was trying to please more people by having a named clone in a cheap set, Captain Vaughn, while making him not stand out that much so thus a lot of him doesn’t look to out of place in an army, also this was all light hearted I’m sorry if it came off as an attack that’s not how I meant it
Would have rather had a Rebel Trooper BP. Call me names and a loser all you want for asking for an OT Battle Pack, but with YAVIN 4 coming, it would have been perfect. 3 Rebel Troopers and 1 Ground Trooper would be amazing
Nobody's gonna do that, an Empire battlepack (maybe Andor based, with two Stormtroopers, an Army Trooper, and a Death Trooper) is sorely needed as well. The more battlepacks the better, as long as they aren't badly botched.
I'm hoping the helmet holes are resolved similarly to how the Darksaber was in the Mandalorian sets. It's certainly disappointing that the figures were released this way, but if it gets fixed in the near future I will be pleased.
Ok so Vaughn is really lazily done and Lego lied to us about the 'special helmet'. Also people are complaining that his little sun visor thing should have had printing, but I always said they shouldn't have kept their hopes up. Same with the printed jetpack on the back of him. Also, let's be honest if they tried to make a backpack for him it would probably be bad. Then there are the troopers. And the helmet holes. Know what's funny? The lego community have been asking lego to give the phase 2 clones helmet holes for years now. Then we finally get it, and people are acting like its ruining their lives. The lego community needs to be slapped across the face and woken up.
I don’t really mind the helmet holes as long as it doesn’t compromise the printing. I think the inclusion of a named character isn’t THAT bad as you might(?) be able to sell it for a good price.(for hopefully around $5-$7)
@MandRproductions It really hasn't, except for the 212th troopers. All of the other clones we've gotten that have the holes look perfectly fine printing wise.
Look I like the fact we got a 332 battle pack. Its awsome we can recreate battle of Mandolor but cpt Vaughn being done soo badly tarnished what could had been an home run of a battle pack!
I’m actually glad Vaughn isn’t totally accurate, but for my own individual reason. I think he makes a good captain clone in general, so having multiple won’t be a problem at all.
I'm not gonna be collecting more than 1 of these to armybuild, bc ive already done it with the normal 501st, but if i were to, id just get a cutter and scrape off the rank plaque to make "Vaughn" into a normal 332 trooper, since fortunately and unfortunately, the only difference between Vaghnuhgj and the others is the plaque
They don't get better over time. They sucked a year ago, they suck today, they'll suck next year. This is a REVIEW, not an AD. If you want an ad for this set I can point you in that direction my guy.
@@MandRproductionsyour the reason why lego doesn't doesn't make the sets great you just Diminish them and make then not want to do a good job you just always complain about everything even if they do something right
@@gabesedits5424 is giving an honest review. I don’t see how that would cause Lego want to make bad sets😂. He complains about major issues that you seem to be ok with. Also, he did say some good stuff about the build, not everything was complained about.
@@MandRproductions”they sucked a year ago, they sucked today, they’ll suck next year” yet you’ll continue buying them making army builds. every “review” i see of yours is just you complaining even if the set is good.
Luckily I have the excess dark red visors from the old Elite Clone Battle Pack. I may improve Vaughn a little. Unfortunately LEGO has really done a terrible job this time and I find embarrassing how some people keep justifying it.
I think if we didn’t get Vaughn in the set then we probably would’ve gotten normal 332nd clone helmets since they could just reuse the old one at a lower cost
I am very disappointed with LEGO company. Purchased one of their high dollar UCS sets (75313) and during build found it missing over seven small parts. LEGO refused to replace all the missing pieces (only replacing most). Literally, I was left paying yet more money to replace missing set pieces. Bad form left bad taste. Caveat Emptor.
I just got this set today and I think it is pretty good! I actually like the figures despite the hideous helmet holes. It is sad though that the Captain Vaughn fig is so inaccurate…Still a 7/10 for me though Edit: I forgot to add this but I am using this set as the beginning to my army! Right now I have about 12 clones…with a million more on the way
Literally yes. The thing I didn't like a year ago with solid visual reasoning that anyone can see, continues to have the same issue and hence I will continue to dislike and recommend people not waste their hard-earned money on the sub-par product.
You think it’s that bad $20 hmm? In Australia, lego has not listed the set on their site, and I checked another store which has it on pre order. The set IS $43, which converted to US is $29 which is absolute garbage! Obviously it is the Australian equivalent of the $27 price point originally rumoured. So we have to live with a $43 battle pack in Australia. I’m gonna leave a review about it and saying that it is a better value army building stormtrooper mechs than this piece of trash. I am gonna rally behind getting this set’s price changed to the $33 price point in australia
That price alone is scary, but comparing it to other sets such as the tie bomber, it is half the price 💀 So essentially, buying 2 of them is the same price as the tie bomber
@@MrSamperi24I feel you man, the uk price got upped to £18.99 which is about $25. Not as bad as Australia but for a terrible build and mediocre minifigures it's just so dissapointing. Another set I'm annoyed about it the republic fighter tank. I want cool purple clones but ots a retailer exclusive set in the UK and it costs £40. It also costs $40 dollars USA even though £40 equals ~$51
I don't get why everyone dunks so bad on the new helmets I actually like how they keep the attachment holes because it allows for more potential for customization I do agree with vaughn not being acurate tho but if you ignore the tiny extra chest print its pretty much just a regular troop
Oh my god are people this thick? That's the point! They made it look generic so that it doesn't look too much like vaughn. What people get annoyed at is to why they called it vaughn even though they intended for it not to look like him much.
Why do you keep saying things that your subjective opinions are objective? The helmet holes aren’t the best no but that’s a subjective opinion , not objective which you keep saying. No problem with you not liking them but your vocab is off.
@@MandRproductions man child complains over a kids toy not being identical to the reference material. Helmet holes means I can make any clone I want into a commander or have other accessories, its better for kids and people who want to be creative with their minifigs. Go buy action figures if you want accurate clones
@@iaminyourballs Lego is a premium product. "Only the best is good enough" is their motto for a reason. You're riding their d's way too hard. If Lego want's to make a less accurate product, us consumers should pay less.
@dvrmaa I agree, I like the new helmet holes because they allow me to put those nice new macrobinoculars on any clone I want, which is great because I can now accurately make Umbara with 212th and 501st using macros.
For me as a UFO (97) ship builder this set includes some very useful rare pieces. However for these clone troopers i have no use at all, so i hope i can sell them for halve the price to a local clone trooper collector. 😆
Yo Ryan I noticed in the video the 332nd helmet print is off creating white gaps at the cheeks. Which seems to be consistent in these new 332nd. Seen during David and Matt’s review as well. Like very noticeable white gaps instead of the gap in the gray area it is now on the orange bit which in my opinion is objectively worst.
Nah I agree with Ryan. The helmet holes have ruined clones for me. I should be excited to get all these new clone types but why care when they will look ugly? The helmet doesn’t even look rounded anymore, the holes literally make it look like it’s square. They look terrible next to the old clone helmets.
I mean tbh if you don't want the von figure for army building, just take off the visor. This is a good but also bad thing (good for army building, but bad because it is accurate and lazy to source material).
Wow, a german Lego supplier. Nice. The pronounciation was a bit off though xD I would love a video on Lego set 7961 one day. It is the Scimitar set I got my Darth Maul from. A comparison of all Scimitar models would be awesome, like you did on the Soulless One. Not too certain on this pack, I find it rather lazy just like you. I probably would not buy it at 20 bucks, maybe at 15.
Oh my god are people this thick? That's the point! They made it look generic so that it doesn't look too much like vaughn. What people get annoyed at is to why they called it vaughn even though they intended for it not to look like him much.
Honestly, I was skeptical over the swamp speeder. That turned out a bit better than I expected it would. Don't love the printing on the figures, but... I figure towards the end of its shelf life I'll pick up one or two if only to have more clones.
Great review Ryan! I’ll be definitely passing on this one for sure. Terrible execution from LEGO on this, plain clones would have been 10000% better in my opinion. Helmet holes gotta go! As always, great review! 🙏🔥
The 2008 P1 Clone Trooper mold had the best integration of the helmet holes. Everybody is complaining about it because the holes are higher than they should be. I really don't care because I prefer customization over accuracy. Now, all we need is a remastered 2008 Clone Walker Battle Pack with 3 regular P2 Clones and 1 P2 Clone gunner and a Remastered Droid battle pack with 2-3 Super Battle Droids.
I feel like Lego is entering a design crisis with it's Star Wars figures. Each era of Lego Star Wars had a unique look that was a mix of movie-realism and Lego's own aesthetic, with really early sets being more Lego than Star Wars. Now, it feels like every helmet / head is oversized and over-detailed, extra print is used for detail where physical and fabric pieces should be making design look busy and sacrifices are being made to the overall appearance to add in more features in a seemingly wrong way. These figures look strange, like someone cut off the head of a action figure and glued it onto a decaled up Lego figure. Set 7655 came out over 15 years ago as the first clone battle pack and everything is better executed at a lower retail price (inflation accounted for, 75% the price of this set).
What LEGO Star Wars should be doing is giving us both helmets for each regular trooper that way we have variety in our figures, maybe that would make sets more expensive but Hey I take that over only the new helmets give us variety LEGO
I mean, they already made sets more expensive so it's a good reason to make them have some value. What would have been cool is including 501st AND 332nd helmets so people can army build both legions.
@@PteranoLiv but tfor real, the dual helmet idea is such a cool concept. Maybe for clones without multiple helmet choices they could even do cool hair and face prints with tatoos for the clones.
Yk something I like about you Ryan? You always do seem to respect others opinions in your own way, you dislike the new 332nd troopers and you’ve made it pretty clear but that doesn’t stop you from being objective and respecting of the people who don’t mind the helmet holes and think they look fine, personally I give the set a 6.2 out of 10 not because of the 332nd troopers which true they look worse but due the Vaughn which just sucks ass
Ryan, you can make a standard 501st trooper with this battle pack, and the January 501st battle pack, and I made standard ones with the sniper guy from the 501st but put white arms and take off the visor it’s a standard 501st, cool eh?
5/10 is a bit too harsh considering the build being very cool and that we get 4 clones basically (named one being ever so slightly different from the rest if you remove the visor). Yes, the detail sucks but at least it's not 2 named jedi in a pack, it could have been much worse. 6+/10 from me
Yes guys I’m sick in this video… sick of LEGO Star Wars making BAD Clone Troopers for us! 🤢🤮
The worst so far 😅
Lol. You feeling ok Ryan? You sounded a little sick in the video.
Agree, it’s decent, it will almost always be decent as long as it’s a battlepack. But they did slack off on some parts
Def this one im so disappointed by the Vaughn I hope mabey someday we get him in a non battle pack set and with proper care
@@Anonymous2.2 I am indeed sick lol
I think it’s funny they stopped adding waist capes because figures couldn’t sit down with them on, but the jet packs achieve the same thing😂
Hey don’t give them any ideas, they might remove those too
@@80Bucksprinted jetpacks 💀
@@notanfbiagent6835 They already print the smaller rounded type jetpacks and backpacks
Also people have been asking for holes in the phase two helmets for ages, and then Lego is like 'OK sure'
And then everyones like: 😤
@@GH0ST2166also nobody asked
We need a droid battle pack for January
Ye
We really need one
True
Yes god please
Big crab droid, destroyer, 2 supers, 2 security and 1 pilot
At least with Vaughn being done as lazily as possible, you can just leave off the visor and the only thing to distinguish him from the others is his rank piece on his chest. After the first pack, just let the doubles of him blend in - 4 clones per pack grows your army that bit quicker
Honestly prefer how he looks because of that
@shorelord1175 yeah true, I'm not going to complain too much. I wish the helmets were the old style, but I'll take them all matching and looking uniform
if there was some way to precisely remove that area of the print then he would be identical
Indeed, if people really do want accuracy they can just hit a CAC or other third party store to get a more accurate figure of Vaughn. Even with the visor he can be passed off as a generic sergeant or other high ranking officer. I believe that this is the approach Lego should take going forward with clone BPs. It achieves the best of both worlds by allowing collectors to army build and hardcore clone fans to have an appropriately adequate figure of a named, notable character.
Exactly. I don’t get the complaints about Vaughn.
I feel like if they made the helmet holes ONLY for commanders and named figures like rex fox and cody but just kept the normal clones normal we could have something to work with
That’s literally what I want :)
@@MandRproductions let's just hope they learn this now and fix it rather than not and spend 5+ more years doing the same mistake only to fix it at the last second.. oh god
Or maybe they couldve repositioned the hole in the correct position, it wouldn't affect the rangefinder piece, the binoculars piece is new so they couldve made it the correct position / median position between p1 & p2 helmet hole height, and they should make a new piece for the visor, as the one we have is too outdated imo, it's a relic from when pauldrons and waistcapes were plastic piece, it's too blocky, and we should get a thinner, slicker visor piece imo
@themelon_1785 The helmet holes are placed accurately for the visors, which go above the little ear covers, and if Lego put the holes in those ear covers, then the macrobinoculars would be incompatible with Phase 1 helmets, which would be stupid.
@@themelon_1785 true my friend very true
I’ve been collecting both Lego Star Wars and Mega Construx Halo for years and something I’ve noticed, especially recently, is that Mega will go the extra mile in detail and design of both their figures and sets and they seem to care a whole lot more for their community vs Lego who seem more interested in giving as little for as much as they can get away with charging. Lego could learn a few things from their competitors.
Yup, only downside is that buying mega is kinda hard if you’re not American
I absolutely agree nick. As a mega and Lego fan it's insane how the tables have turned. Mandr should make a video on this topic of mega and Lego now or in a form of ask mandr.
That's probably because MEGA makes their sets in smaller quantities than Lego does and also has a slightly more niche community, whereas Lego makes absolutely massive quantities of sets that are distributed all over the globe and has a much larger fanbase.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 actually it’s because Mattel doesn’t care that much about mega
Yeah Mega tends to be very open with their community compared to LEGO. With their recent fan vote the designer just shows off prototypes which is something LEGO rarely does.
Good review, covered the set and problems very professionally. I wish Lego would listen to the criticism and just make some great figures…
I wish that too, but LEGO is a business and mainly does only what makes them profit. If consumers (us) by the lower quality product they will continue to produce products of the lower quality because they are still making a profit. They won't change unless us consumers as a whole decide to stop buying their product until they put in the effort that should be given to begin with.
Someday for sure !
My only problem with this set is that I'm growing a little tired of 501st troopers. Why couldn't we get some plain clones?
They liked the money from the 1st 501st battlepack, made another one and a variant
For real next should be one based on the bad batch but without helmet holes just regular clone troopers no heavy no officer
Boys want more clones
Men want separatist droids
Legends want mimban stormtroopers
@Pegasus_Gr I would actually hope that, if they do make a plain white clone battle pack, that at least one of the clones has helmet holes so I can have a plain clone with macrobinoculars or a visor.
@@apparentlyjeremy Totally, I remember a few years ago there was a rumor of a Mimban battle pack which, I guess, turned out to be nothing more than a rumor.
You say you don’t want named characters in battle packs but get mad when Lego puts a named character that can be easily changed into a normal clone for army building.
real
I seriously can’t believe that a “downside” of battle packs is including a name character. 90% of people who buy this set will have their parents buy them literally 1 set.
Yes
Do you know anything about the history of Battle Packs? It’s obviously a downside (or can at least be perceived as such).
@@MandRproductionsI understand LEGO said that a battle pack is a army builder, but again a vast majority of people buying those sets can’t even afford to build armies of clones. LEGO cares more about the 12 year old asking their mom to buy a 1 off set first and foremost and they always will.
@@GrunkBricksand that is a good thing, in my opinion.
I feel like the only person in existence to not care about the holes in the helmet. Growing up with legos I'm use to having holes in the helmets or hats like the Bicorne, Tricorner, classic knight visor, turban, and so on. If anything, I'm glad the holes are there, I have all these 501st troopers and I'm just, man, I wish I can put stuff like a visor or a range finder on them.
yeah Agreed and while I also dont think the solution is perfect its not as much of an issue as mainly this community hear makes it out to be, the hate they get elsewhere is far less compared to his videos tbh
It isn't the holes we are annoyed at, it's the location. There are now 2 sets of holes/bumps and it just looks sub par.
I agree with you, the helmet hole issue is ridiculous and has been talked to death. I get not liking or liking the holes depending on what you want the set for, I don't mind the holes that much, they look kinda off but they don't ruin the set for me.
@@RichardMontgomeryYT I'm afraid I do not understand, if there was only one hole you can't put a visor on, you can only use a range finder. I feel more people would be angry if lego did that.
@@Garinovitchyes obviously but they could have one clone with one helmet hole for rangefinder and the rest has 2 holes. Like in the 501st specialist battle pack the officer should have had one helmet hole
I really hope we get a Super Battle Droid Battle Pack. We need an updated mold for the droid. I’m sick of getting just B1 Battle Droids.
2 SBDs, a magnaguard and a commando droid would be pretty cool, maybe 2 commandos since droids are cheaper for them to produce.
Just remake the og 2007 one. 3 b2s and 4 or 5 b1s. Personally I would have 2 B2s, 5 B1s and a owner or security droid. Builds would be a spider droid, droideka and a small carrier.
@@RichardMontgomeryYTI’d rather have 2 different packs, one for special units and one for normal ones: Special unit one having 3 B2’s, 1 droideka and 3 Commandos (2 normal ones and a captain commando). And a normal unit one having 2 B1 security, 2 B1 pilot, 2 B1 camouflage and 2 B1 officers (ik it might be too much to ask but B1 units are REALLY cheap to make when compared to figs and they usually add them everywhere so making a battlepack won’t cost as much as making completely new things)
At this point, I'd even take a battle pack of nothing but clones and B1s. Some kind of little 4 piece turret thing so Lego can fulfill their contractual obligation to not sell only SW minifigures, and 3 or 4 clones and 3 or 4 droids.
@@SergeiMosin make ‘em white phase 2 clones and I’ll be happy.
Here in the UK they’ve raised the battle pack price from £17.99 to £18.99 for this set. Pretty disappointed when the price stays the same in the US.
Lol
It’s like 25-29 in Canada
That’s because the value of the pound has dropped
Here in sweden it will cost 14.99 dollars
I’m still gonna pick up at least two of these sets since I need as MANY clones as I can get for an upcoming project I’m working on
i dont think the helmet holes are a bad addition. they are meant of course for kids to have a cheap set to play with and the holes in the head make more customization for them.
I think the whole notion of Lego Star wars, or even Lego itself, being intended purely for children is silly. Generally, Lego seeks to satisfy both the older and younger consumer groups. The battle packs, while having, like you said, the function of being merely a "cheap set to play with" (as evidenced by the more childish build included), they also serve as a means through which the older consumer, who has the funds necessary, can buy multiple of them and create armies or large groups of them, after all, by the source material, these are army troopers. It's the same with microfighters, a kid gets a silly little build they can swoosh around, a collector gets a desirable character in a cheap set. I genuinely believe they have two intended purposes and this is financially beneficial for the company. I think you are wrong to dismiss a critique from the adult consumer side by saying it's just a toy meant for little kids, as that's not true.
@@user-fg3dz5kv7q i never said its only for little kids, but it is intended for them. the box says 6+, which doesnt mean that adults cant buy it and collect it, but does mean that it is targeted towards kids. helmet holes, while they may look ugly to some, are meant for kids to play with and customize clone troopers, not for adults to criticize. it is likely partly lazy work on legos end, but critiquing it as much as it gets critiqued is not deserved. it is a play function and works as such. no one else complains about stud shooters or flickfire missiles, even though they look ugly. thats because its clearly meant for kids to play with.
@@monstrblood6682 I know what you said, and I made a lengthy response explaining why it's targeted both towards younger and older consumers.
Most people complain about stud shooters and flickfire missiles - if they're not properly implemented and it harms the overall look. You're wrong again. They had stud shooters at one point that minifigures could hold as blasters. I imagine you think that's a great play function for kids, however guess what, they removed them because it looked atrocious.
@@user-fg3dz5kv7q theres literally stud shooters on the ahsoka clone trooper battle pack speeder 💀
@@monstrblood6682 Great observation Mr. Skull emoji. I don't think they're particularly improperly implemented (now that's a tongue twister) but whatever. More importantly that's the part of the set that serves the purpose of satisfying the younger consumer base. An adult doesn't need an army of speeders or other goofy looking builds they've come up with for these, but they're there for the kid that gets a cheap set to play with, like you said. A kid doesn't need the helmet holes to be filled, but it should be there as it was in the past so that it is not off putting to the older collector who will get multiple of these.
Lego doesn't want to make the figures more customizable for children, they want to save money by reusing the same mold.
Helmet holes are cool though
Can we please be thankful that we got a captain vaughn figure it might not be the best but at least be thankful and just take off the visor for Mary building if your buying multiple it’s the same figure as the rest just with a visor so it’s the same in my opinion Lego made a smart choice for army building
So when it comes to using named clones, I did actually find a neat workaround that I'll use for this pack. I'm just going to swap Vaughn's torso with a 501st, so I can have some generic 501st captains, and turn the Vaugh into a 4th 332nd trooper
Considering Ahsoka's 332nd is really just a couple companies rather than a full Legion, one realistically doesn't need to buy too many of the sets. Just however many is needed for the intended MOC.
For me, I am thinking of switching up the pieces: Buying 501st helmets for the bodies, while placing the 332nd helmets on 212th bodies / regular troopers. A custom togruta jedi from spare Ahsoka/Shaak-Ti/Togruta figures and I have a different orange themed Legion!
Only way to make Vaughn look slightly better is to get a maroon coloured visor, luckily they are readily available from past battle packs!
2014 helmets were overall better design
I love the scene where the swamp speeders help out the clones and orange visor captain Vaughn saves the day ! Nice Lego!
It’s a battle pack dude, 90% of the battle pack vehicles don’t even exist in the movies/shows, let alone being accurate to the scene
Really dude it’s a battle pack. Grow up
@@shorelord1175”only the best is good enough”
@@Cmmdre977 What? I can't think of a single battle pack including a vehicole that doesn't exist except for the old Empire one
@@Funkiotologistthen why tf do you buy one if it isnt good enough💀
Can't wait to witness the misprinted clone helmets 😢
They’ll be like 2,000$ in 10 years lmao
3:27 that's such a funny joke like when lego says only the best is good enough(really, it's just the only enough)
The thing with Vaughn is that, if you remove the visor, it will be a normal 332nd trooper except for the rank piece, so you could get 4 troopers per pack if you already have a vaughn.
That’s dumb. Either give us Vaughn properly or give us another 332 trooper
I am not a fan of this set overall. I don't mind the idea of a 332nd battle pack but having the ugly helmet hole clones instead of the perfectly fine helmets from the aat is a shame. No reason to include a named character (Vaughn) in a battle pack too, but since they did the Vaughn figure is inaccurate which is a shame. Overall I'll probably purchase one of these maximum. No way I'm Army building with this
I also don’t get why they didn’t just retexture and recolor codys body. Like you had to change 1 design. I feel like they just didn’t care cuz vaughn isn’t as well known as cody so they thought we wouldn’t notice which is crazy.
Lego: A special helmet!!!
The people who watch the Clone Wars and love lego: 🙄😒🤔🤨 You sure bout that one???
all the people who bought one of these figures for $20 🤡🤡🤡🤡
You mean the better looking version? Stop being toxic.
Hey its basic economics, you buy 1 for $20, I buy 3 for $20 (+ the captain). Who got the better value?
you can just use vaughn as a random captain or commander so it’s not really bad for army building
Well I think you're missing the point, that's what people are annoyed at. Why make a vaughn if it really doesn't look like vaughn? They need to just make their minds up.
@@voidstudios7460 Just use him as a sergeant, then. There's one sergeant for every nine clone troopers because that's how GAR squads are set up.
Vaughn is so disappointing and lazy and it bothers me so much.
Swamp speeder is a specific type of vehicle. The broad name for them is an Infantry Support Platform (ISP). But yeah they weren’t seen in the siege of mandalore episodes lol
We need a phase 2 regular clone battle pack so much
3:18 this is where the "its just a kids toy" argument really trips and falls into clown shoes. If they got it right in the past why cant they just get it right now?
It’s always been a bunch of idiots defending a billion dollar company on a false pretense. It’s not just a kids toy but that’s besides the point when you take 30 seconds to do any research into LEGO’s history, statements, and other “toy” brand qualities.
We need a plain phase 2 clone battle pack soon, I’m tired of having 501st troopers.
Lego: puts a named figure in a battle pack
Some people: Awesome I can get them for cheap
M and R: I don’t want an army of them
LEGO: we will split the middle by making a named character that can be used as a normal clone trooper
M and R: I still am mad
LEGO: man shocker
When have I ever asked for a clone that DOUBLES as another clone? In fact LEGO pissed off a large portion of the community doing just that in 2021.
@@MandRproductions sorry what I was trying to say was that LEGO was trying to please more people by having a named clone in a cheap set, Captain Vaughn, while making him not stand out that much so thus a lot of him doesn’t look to out of place in an army, also this was all light hearted I’m sorry if it came off as an attack that’s not how I meant it
Would have rather had a Rebel Trooper BP. Call me names and a loser all you want for asking for an OT Battle Pack, but with YAVIN 4 coming, it would have been perfect. 3 Rebel Troopers and 1 Ground Trooper would be amazing
Nobody's gonna do that, an Empire battlepack (maybe Andor based, with two Stormtroopers, an Army Trooper, and a Death Trooper) is sorely needed as well. The more battlepacks the better, as long as they aren't badly botched.
@@shaunw9092 Yes definitely, also what do you mean by no one would do that lol
@@dannyiel0618 Give you a hard time about wanting a specific battlepack
@@shaunw9092 Ohhh ok thanks :)
I'm hoping the helmet holes are resolved similarly to how the Darksaber was in the Mandalorian sets. It's certainly disappointing that the figures were released this way, but if it gets fixed in the near future I will be pleased.
Am i mad at the minifigure design choices? Yes. Will I buy this? Also yes
Ok so Vaughn is really lazily done and Lego lied to us about the 'special helmet'. Also people are complaining that his little sun visor thing should have had printing, but I always said they shouldn't have kept their hopes up. Same with the printed jetpack on the back of him. Also, let's be honest if they tried to make a backpack for him it would probably be bad.
Then there are the troopers. And the helmet holes. Know what's funny? The lego community have been asking lego to give the phase 2 clones helmet holes for years now. Then we finally get it, and people are acting like its ruining their lives. The lego community needs to be slapped across the face and woken up.
Embracing a new Thumbnail pallette for star wars reviews, I like it.
I don’t really mind the helmet holes as long as it doesn’t compromise the printing. I think the inclusion of a named character isn’t THAT bad as you might(?) be able to sell it for a good price.(for hopefully around $5-$7)
"as long as it doesn’t compromise the printing" But it does... and they have shown they will never fix it.
@@MandRproductionsyou can replace the capitan voughnon torso with a regular 501st torso
@@Eugenedingleberry356what does that have to do with the helmet?
@@Eugenedingleberry356And then you'll have a clone with the wrong torso, Vaugn just has no place in a battlepack
@MandRproductions It really hasn't, except for the 212th troopers. All of the other clones we've gotten that have the holes look perfectly fine printing wise.
doesnt sound like mandr
AI is here
Lol he's ill it's not AI
I find it funny they keep labeling these tcw sets as 20th anniversary even though they have nothing to do with the 2003 clone wars.
Getting tired of Lego’s laziness. I’m glad you’re one of the only few UA-camrs actually calling them out on it. We deserve better.
Look I like the fact we got a 332 battle pack. Its awsome we can recreate battle of Mandolor but cpt Vaughn being done soo badly tarnished what could had been an home run of a battle pack!
I’m actually glad Vaughn isn’t totally accurate, but for my own individual reason. I think he makes a good captain clone in general, so having multiple won’t be a problem at all.
I'm not gonna be collecting more than 1 of these to armybuild, bc ive already done it with the normal 501st, but if i were to, id just get a cutter and scrape off the rank plaque to make "Vaughn" into a normal 332 trooper, since fortunately and unfortunately, the only difference between Vaghnuhgj and the others is the plaque
@@themelon_1785 Just switch his body out with a normal trooper’s helmet. Make a standard 501st captain and get a standard 332nd trooper.
I ain't buying all that
Don't trust jellyfish they will eat your gold
you still complaining about helmet holes 💀
They don't get better over time. They sucked a year ago, they suck today, they'll suck next year. This is a REVIEW, not an AD. If you want an ad for this set I can point you in that direction my guy.
@@MandRproductionsyour the reason why lego doesn't doesn't make the sets great you just Diminish them and make then not want to do a good job you just always complain about everything even if they do something right
@@gabesedits5424 is giving an honest review. I don’t see how that would cause Lego want to make bad sets😂. He complains about major issues that you seem to be ok with. Also, he did say some good stuff about the build, not everything was complained about.
@@MandRproductions”they sucked a year ago, they sucked today, they’ll suck next year” yet you’ll continue buying them making army builds. every “review” i see of yours is just you complaining even if the set is good.
@@gabesedits5424 You are a silly goose.
I honestly like the set, the helmet doesnt bother me as much. It is bulky but it opens up phase 2 customization a bunch
The helmet hole saga continues!
Unfortunately.
We need a Mandalorian Super Commando Battle Pack to go against this
Best fix for this would be including the dark red accessory pack instead of orange. Same parts, just different color, easy fix.
And yet they still couldn’t bother… “easy” ain’t easy in Denmark.
Luckily I have the excess dark red visors from the old Elite Clone Battle Pack. I may improve Vaughn a little. Unfortunately LEGO has really done a terrible job this time and I find embarrassing how some people keep justifying it.
I think if we didn’t get Vaughn in the set then we probably would’ve gotten normal 332nd clone helmets since they could just reuse the old one at a lower cost
So true
I wouldn't say that lego clearly wants to have the new clone helmet be the default
I am very disappointed with LEGO company. Purchased one of their high dollar UCS sets (75313) and during build found it missing over seven small parts. LEGO refused to replace all the missing pieces (only replacing most). Literally, I was left paying yet more money to replace missing set pieces. Bad form left bad taste. Caveat Emptor.
I just got this set today and I think it is pretty good! I actually like the figures despite the hideous helmet holes. It is sad though that the Captain Vaughn fig is so inaccurate…Still a 7/10 for me though
Edit: I forgot to add this but I am using this set as the beginning to my army! Right now I have about 12 clones…with a million more on the way
Pov MandR: “I will not Recommend a single set that has helmet holes on the Clone until they fix it.”
Literally yes. The thing I didn't like a year ago with solid visual reasoning that anyone can see, continues to have the same issue and hence I will continue to dislike and recommend people not waste their hard-earned money on the sub-par product.
I would like a new shoretrooper battle pack, I missed out the first time. Hell I’d even like a sandtrooper vs. mudtrooper battle pack
Death troopers too
And shadow troopers
Ok to be fair, at least the laziness means you can just lay off the “captain Vaughn” as a officer figure
I am so glad this will "only" be $20! Makes it much more palatable.
But, the holes? 🤔
By the way, the audio sounds GREAT!
You think it’s that bad $20 hmm? In Australia, lego has not listed the set on their site, and I checked another store which has it on pre order. The set IS $43, which converted to US is $29 which is absolute garbage! Obviously it is the Australian equivalent of the $27 price point originally rumoured. So we have to live with a $43 battle pack in Australia. I’m gonna leave a review about it and saying that it is a better value army building stormtrooper mechs than this piece of trash. I am gonna rally behind getting this set’s price changed to the $33 price point in australia
@@MrSamperi24 That is an abysmal price point! I have heard of the horrors of LEGO pricing and availability in Australia and it pains me to hear that 😥
That price alone is scary, but comparing it to other sets such as the tie bomber, it is half the price 💀
So essentially, buying 2 of them is the same price as the tie bomber
@@MrSamperi24 It's the world we live in now 🥲 prices are as they are. I think critiquing the quality is fair game for sure
@@MrSamperi24I feel you man, the uk price got upped to £18.99 which is about $25. Not as bad as Australia but for a terrible build and mediocre minifigures it's just so dissapointing. Another set I'm annoyed about it the republic fighter tank. I want cool purple clones but ots a retailer exclusive set in the UK and it costs £40. It also costs $40 dollars USA even though £40 equals ~$51
The helmets look like those fakes i seen
Honestly what I found interesting was that if you bought the set, removed the figures helmets, put a 501st helmet on they’re 501st troopers
If you buy this and the new 501st battle pack, you can mix the mini figs to create regular 501st troopers
I will buy me 6 of these and upgrade 5 Captain Vaughns with something that will make them like they're Clone specialists.
I might just buy extra torso pieces for the regular 332nd and swap them with Vaughan's.
Yo can we just get P2 grunts already like fr dawg
Need 'em for my Siege of Mandalore build so it sucks it isn't better.
The Asokas trooper from that aat set just sunk in value a ton
They’re still better, I doubt it dips much
I don't get why everyone dunks so bad on the new helmets I actually like how they keep the attachment holes because it allows for more potential for customization I do agree with vaughn not being acurate tho but if you ignore the tiny extra chest print its pretty much just a regular troop
It's because they're above where they should be and create a double helmet hole look.
Oh my god are people this thick? That's the point! They made it look generic so that it doesn't look too much like vaughn. What people get annoyed at is to why they called it vaughn even though they intended for it not to look like him much.
@@TheFirstCurse1The helmet holes are exactly where they need to be for the visors, which attach to clone helmets ABOVE the ear covers.
Its not that bad. Just take off the visor and thats an extra nameless trooper
I’d rather have the ugly holed helmets then going years without getting any clone wars sets 2014-2019
Why do you keep saying things that your subjective opinions are objective? The helmet holes aren’t the best no but that’s a subjective opinion , not objective which you keep saying. No problem with you not liking them but your vocab is off.
The helmets look less accurate and hence worse than before (not to mention the prints). It is objective. Compare to source material.
Helmet holes are nothing but a positive, i hope they keep them on all the clones in the future
Objectively wrong. Have you seen the prints on these clones? Guess what caused them to be so awful.
@@MandRproductionsthey look like poop. Idk why they couldn’t keep it the same as the aat. Unnecessary and it made it worse.
@@MandRproductions man child complains over a kids toy not being identical to the reference material. Helmet holes means I can make any clone I want into a commander or have other accessories, its better for kids and people who want to be creative with their minifigs. Go buy action figures if you want accurate clones
@@iaminyourballs Lego is a premium product. "Only the best is good enough" is their motto for a reason. You're riding their d's way too hard. If Lego want's to make a less accurate product, us consumers should pay less.
@dvrmaa I agree, I like the new helmet holes because they allow me to put those nice new macrobinoculars on any clone I want, which is great because I can now accurately make Umbara with 212th and 501st using macros.
I’m happy the black lines on their helmets aren’t as bold
For me as a UFO (97) ship builder this set includes some very useful rare pieces. However for these clone troopers i have no use at all, so i hope i can sell them for halve the price to a local clone trooper collector. 😆
Yo Ryan I noticed in the video the 332nd helmet print is off creating white gaps at the cheeks. Which seems to be consistent in these new 332nd. Seen during David and Matt’s review as well. Like very noticeable white gaps instead of the gap in the gray area it is now on the orange bit which in my opinion is objectively worst.
Nah I agree with Ryan. The helmet holes have ruined clones for me. I should be excited to get all these new clone types but why care when they will look ugly? The helmet doesn’t even look rounded anymore, the holes literally make it look like it’s square. They look terrible next to the old clone helmets.
I mean tbh if you don't want the von figure for army building, just take off the visor. This is a good but also bad thing (good for army building, but bad because it is accurate and lazy to source material).
Guys let’s try and get used to the helmet holes. I don’t like them at all but they aren’t leaving and we gotta accept it.
Wow, a german Lego supplier. Nice. The pronounciation was a bit off though xD
I would love a video on Lego set 7961 one day. It is the Scimitar set I got my Darth Maul from. A comparison of all Scimitar models would be awesome, like you did on the Soulless One.
Not too certain on this pack, I find it rather lazy just like you. I probably would not buy it at 20 bucks, maybe at 15.
LoL. Rather lazy just like you.
My theory is they purposely made Vaughn like that, without the visor he basically looks like a normal 332nd and still works for army building
Oh my god are people this thick? That's the point! They made it look generic so that it doesn't look too much like vaughn. What people get annoyed at is to why they called it vaughn even though they intended for it not to look like him much.
At least the thick "unibrows" aren't on the actual figures like the box render shows
Giant black unibrows on all of the 332nd troopers make me MAD!
Okay good, thank you.
I think lego made captain vaughn like this to be easily replaced by a standart trooper. I dont think it was a lazy decision at all.
We get that, it's just if you're gonna make captain Vaughan at least make it look like him. If not then don't bother.
Honestly, I was skeptical over the swamp speeder. That turned out a bit better than I expected it would. Don't love the printing on the figures, but... I figure towards the end of its shelf life I'll pick up one or two if only to have more clones.
New fav Battle Pack. Can’t wait to see the alternate builds of the swamp speeder
"This is the biggest piece of dog shit"- The Rock
Great review Ryan! I’ll be definitely passing on this one for sure. Terrible execution from LEGO on this, plain clones would have been 10000% better in my opinion. Helmet holes gotta go! As always, great review! 🙏🔥
But I want to make an army of Vanghn’s! They are clones, after all! Clones of Vanghn!
The 2008 P1 Clone Trooper mold had the best integration of the helmet holes. Everybody is complaining about it because the holes are higher than they should be. I really don't care because I prefer customization over accuracy.
Now, all we need is a remastered 2008 Clone Walker Battle Pack with 3 regular P2 Clones and 1 P2 Clone gunner and a Remastered Droid battle pack with 2-3 Super Battle Droids.
I feel like Lego is entering a design crisis with it's Star Wars figures. Each era of Lego Star Wars had a unique look that was a mix of movie-realism and Lego's own aesthetic, with really early sets being more Lego than Star Wars. Now, it feels like every helmet / head is oversized and over-detailed, extra print is used for detail where physical and fabric pieces should be making design look busy and sacrifices are being made to the overall appearance to add in more features in a seemingly wrong way. These figures look strange, like someone cut off the head of a action figure and glued it onto a decaled up Lego figure. Set 7655 came out over 15 years ago as the first clone battle pack and everything is better executed at a lower retail price (inflation accounted for, 75% the price of this set).
Gunna be wasting a lot of orange plastic visors in the garbage.
What LEGO Star Wars should be doing is giving us both helmets for each regular trooper that way we have variety in our figures, maybe that would make sets more expensive but Hey I take that over only the new helmets give us variety LEGO
I mean, they already made sets more expensive so it's a good reason to make them have some value. What would have been cool is including 501st AND 332nd helmets so people can army build both legions.
@@RichardMontgomeryYT speak your truth king!
@@PteranoLiv but tfor real, the dual helmet idea is such a cool concept. Maybe for clones without multiple helmet choices they could even do cool hair and face prints with tatoos for the clones.
@@RichardMontgomeryYT it would be cool
Still don't understand why this isn't a swamp speeder with Commander Bly and his legion...
The seating is TIGHT! TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT!
For anyone who doesn’t get it, it is a Tuco reference from Breaking Bad.
Exposing children to breaking bad in a kids toy comment section. Great work.
Yk something I like about you Ryan? You always do seem to respect others opinions in your own way, you dislike the new 332nd troopers and you’ve made it pretty clear but that doesn’t stop you from being objective and respecting of the people who don’t mind the helmet holes and think they look fine, personally I give the set a 6.2 out of 10 not because of the 332nd troopers which true they look worse but due the Vaughn which just sucks ass
LET’S GOO- oh right helmet holes, never mind.
Ryan, you can make a standard 501st trooper with this battle pack, and the January 501st battle pack, and I made standard ones with the sniper guy from the 501st but put white arms and take off the visor it’s a standard 501st, cool eh?
I have already established that if Lego isn't going to make good clone troopers I'm not army building them at all.
5/10 is a bit too harsh considering the build being very cool and that we get 4 clones basically (named one being ever so slightly different from the rest if you remove the visor). Yes, the detail sucks but at least it's not 2 named jedi in a pack, it could have been much worse. 6+/10 from me
I got this set early at Walmart and it was $26.99. Lego is getting greedy