Elons behaviour is turning off many potential Tesla buyers at present. The Geely EV5 arrives in Australia in March and should beat this on most measures. Keep up the great EV reviews!
I love Tesla. We owns a used M3 for office trips, chores, school drops, city trips, short day trips and we run it very cheap. Only used public charging in 2 long trips. The backup ICE Renault gets used occasionally. We were planning to do away with ICE next year and Model Y was our top contender until we started reconsidering giving money to Musk. The Chinese EV's are cheaper and in some way already caught up with Tesla. This car is too chatty and missing support of crucial Apps for us to consider at the moment.
I'm with you buddy. The Chinese engineering juggernaut has launched. So we'll be spoiled for choice in 2025 - BYD, Geely, Xpeng, Zeekr, Smart, Leapmotor, MG, plus all the non-Chinese brands we're familiar with - VW group, Kia, Hyundai and for those with more expensive tastes - the other Germans.
Great review Stu. I think it's a good package all round, that despite the barely functional voice assistant and OTT ADAS. Re Tesla - If people think the social shame felt today is bad, just wait - it's only going to get worse!
Great review, good car and certainly one to consider. I am hanging out for the launch of the Geely Galaxy EX5 before putting the cash down. Hopefully around the same price - I think it will have better charging architecture. Tesla? Ah - nope.
Nice looking car. They were on our shortlist, but we ended up going in another direction due to the issues Stellantis are having, and potential problems with Warranty servicing.
Good review. Speaking to few soon to change to electric former petrol heads, ability to connect to your home as a source of back up energy is a key feature. Not sure if being linked to Stellantis is a positive. Looking forward to your review on Sealion 7. Should it eventually get the Blade 2 LFP battery, it will kill the electric SUV market and destroy the Model Y.
So from all the Chinese SUVs available now, which one stands out as the best looking? I mean they all have similar inclusions, performance and pricing I think, so it comes down to looks and how well each feature functions, right?
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Hi, I have watched a UA-cam video where the guy removed the driver assistant fuses in the front and that removed all those annoying alarms. There were 2 fuses. GL
If you have a link, please share. I'd be surprised if it was that straightforward. In modern cars you don't usually get fuses dedicated to functions like that.
Thanks for the info. I don't hate it, but I'm not interested in an SUV, especially not one without functions like android auto, safety features that keep turning back on, poor voice recognition, screen interface instead of buttons, etc.
The Zeekr X wasn't so bad on narrow roads. But we didn't use it much. Just became habit to turn it off, together with the distraction and fatigue warnings.
@ That's good to hear, I'm hoping to get a 7x later in the year. I think I read somewhere that you can set it up as a shortcut to turn it off quite easily too. Not sure if I dreamt this but I believe ancap are going to start deducting points for overly annoying safety systems too..
Have not watched your review as yet, but this looks like another oversized , heavy EV. The majority of Australians who live in urban areas need a small city EV, perhaps something like the Renault 5 EV.
I agree - love the R5 EV - but it's amazing how young families accumulate bulky stuff for their babies - capsules, those giant prams. Like it or not the mid-sized EV remains popular.
The reason SUVs and recreational utes sell so well in Australia is because we love going on road trips. The long weekends will see us taking our families out of the city in droves. And there are many long weekends. AWD. Good ground clearance. Comfort for everyone and some space for a BBQ, bike, ice box, etc in the boot are essential even if we all live in the cities. Having said that I'm not crazy about the external styling. Perhaps that's where they saved money. External styling/design.
@@MrThaiLuan Your comment is valid to a degree, however the street I live in (just north of Hornsby ) 80% of households are two or three car families. One neighbour has three dual cab utes , one for hubby (builder), one for wifey, one for son. Next neighbour has an Audi A4 and a Tesla model Y. Another neighbour has a Dodge Ram and wife has a Merc Van. I could go on. When I was a child we had an 1960 FB Holden station wagon (tare weigth approx 1120kg) for a family of six, three on the front seat, three on the back seat, and we went on road trips towing a trailer. In those days the barrier highway was still gravel and corrugated and we drove sydney to adelaide loaded up on one of our trips. I still have the Holden and it is spacious on the inside and and not overwhelming on the outside, and it doesnt weigh 2 ton and has good ground clearace. Ok, have a SUV AWD for trips away and have a small EV for the shopping and taking the kids to school.
@@robbara9924 yeah I agree, if one family has 3 huge cars it doesn't make any sense. I mean you should buy the appropriate car for the stage of your life. When I was a young lad, I bought a hatch back. Nissan pulsar SSS. It allowed me to zip around town and even tow stuff. I was active and loved the outdoors so I often went on road trips with it and even took friends in that hatch. It allowed me to carry my first child too when she arrived. Then we got more kids and the car was upgraded to a SUV. If I worked in the trades I'd absolutely buy a ute. Our second car was always a small car.
I find it annoying and a bit short sighted that they won't sentd us the 800V versions - sighting that our infrastructure isn't there. Could only be a year or two away, I would rather have a car that is futureproofed. I would need to do a surfboard test before I make up my mind too 🤙
NO, please don't refer the name to Mao 😂😂 it's irrelevant, I'm Chinese。the Chinese name of leapmotor is 零跑，it means zero racing, maybe referring to zero emissions. Leap is similar pronunciation to zero in Chinese.
Thanks for clarification. I'm showing my western ignorance. "Great leap forward" was something we were taught about in high school, so I was just drawing conclusions of my own.
@inCARnationAustralia It's okay, the great leap forward is not something the Chinese people are proud of, no company in their right mind would name their car in reference to it. 😂😂
Some of these Chinese EV's are starting to make me think of those standard products you buy online these days. This Leapmotor C10, Nio EL8, Xpeng G9 etc. I'm starting to struggle to keep them apart. They are branded somewhat, and not 100% identical, but you know they all look like they come from the same factory because the dimensions, general shape, interior layout and feel are nearly identical.
A range like this is useless in Oz unless you use it just as a commuter. My petrol Q3 will get over 800km on a trip. Any electric car I consider will have to do the same. There are very few chargers out where I live in regional Qld. BEVs are not the future however that’s not saying electric isn’t.
A lot of people never venture far from home. The average Australian drives about 27km per day so a full bucket of electrons will last them a fortnight. I was able to do my little Hunter Valley trip no probs without having to charge - although I did just to show it worked. For many people that's all they ever need. However... 1 - Leapmotor do have a EREV version of the C10 that uses a small petrol motor NOT to drive the wheels but to keep the battery charged. Expect a range of 1000km. Hence the large bonnet with all that empty space. Still uses the electric motor for propulsion but on a long trip still gives exceptional fuel economy when it has to kick in the petrol motor - which just ticks over at a constant (efficient) rate. I believe they're bringing it here. Problem solved. Best of both worlds. Economy and range. And power. And almost silence. 2 - I wouldn't say useless. A lot of EV owners find their initial range anxiety disappears after they've owned their car a few weeks. We've all heard the horror stories of waiting to charge during school hols or being ICE'd by some guy who parks his HiLux at the charger - but unless you're the kind of person who says "I can't stop honey, otherwise I'll let through all those people I spent the last two hours overtaking", then probably not an issue. By the time I've bought a coffee and had a leak... off I go again. 3. I'm off to Bathurst regularly. No concern at all. I know there are lots of charging options up there. No inconvenience. Same for Sydney Melbourne. Lots of options and fallback options.
The car either does a fantastic job at self driving or not at all and let me drive. The constant bs from the car trying to help me drive with all the annoying sounds and warnings is definitely a NO NO. I'm not the least bit interested in any reminder when I am and should be in full control of the vehicle.
The new Tesla Model Y does 0-100 in just over 4 seconds, and this does not even come close. This will, however, outpace the Tesla in depreciation. Also good luck getting parts for it 5 years down the track.
People that buy a family sized SUV genuinely don't care about 0-100 pace. Yes, it's a new brand in Australia. But Toyota, Kia and Hyundai all were too, once.
You're talking about the Long Range Model Y that does 4.3. The price gap to that one is even larger - over $32,000 more ($47,500 vs $79,299 on the road). Which is a lot to pay for that performance. But yeah this car isn't a barnstormer. It's brisk enough for most people but well behind any Tesla. And regarding depreciation, after Tesla's Q4 results today, plus a healthy dose of ECF (Elon Cringe Factor) that comes free with every new Tesla, their depreciation prospects are a bit sad too. Shame 'cos they're good cars.
@@inCARnationAustralia no I’m not talking about the long range, I’m talking about the launch series Juniper Model Y. They are are arriving in Australia with the ‘acceleration boost’ enabled - good for a 4.3 second 0-100 sprint. That is effectively the base model for now. Elon is cringe, and all those other things combined, but the cars are undeniably good. If people want to part with their hard earned on what is likely to be their second most valuable asset for new to the market Chinese brands with the current unknowns of parts availability, dealer and manufacturer support and medium-to-long term reliability, be my guest. Good luck with that paper weight in the future when the Chinese market consolidates and some of these brands disappear altogether. I watched a review of a BYD Seal and a warning popped up on the drivers binnacle, and there was a spelling mistake in the warning. If that’s the level of QC they’re putting into their cars, I can’t for the life of me trust the coding that goes into their safety systems and general vehicle controls - doubly so considering everything is controlled through a touch screen these days.
@@hargeaux of course they do, especially in Australia - we are per capita one of the biggest markets for cooking models of regular cars, and that includes SUV’s, Utes etc. There is a reason cars like the Xpeng G6 and Zeekr 7X have ‘performance’ versions (along with many other Chinese Model Y competitors). Just because you don’t care, doesn’t mean other buyers don’t.
@@joet-gp3dm The cars are undeniably good. Really good. And yes I've noticed spelling mistakes on some Chinese cars too. But the calibration of the ADAS systems on many is enough to tell you some have been rushed to market without proper testing. I did go to the Tesla Australia web site to order a "New Model Y LAUNCH series" with deliveries expected in begin in May. It still quotes 466km, 201 km/h, 5.9 secs @ $63,400 + ORC. The Long Range quotes 551km, 201 km/h, 4.3s @ $73,400 + ORC. Is that not correct? I gather from the press release, these are the times including the "typically optional Acceleration Boost", and the "usual" times are slower.
Lovely information - if they could intoduce driver profiles that could be save d- no more bing bongs - In the UK Vuaxhall looks good would consider over Tesla - to much rubbish with that company ... My Grandad would roll in his grave...
Great informative review thank you. And thanks for all the on screen stats.
Elons behaviour is turning off many potential Tesla buyers at present. The Geely EV5 arrives in Australia in March and should beat this on most measures. Keep up the great EV reviews!
I love Tesla. We owns a used M3 for office trips, chores, school drops, city trips, short day trips and we run it very cheap. Only used public charging in 2 long trips. The backup ICE Renault gets used occasionally. We were planning to do away with ICE next year and Model Y was our top contender until we started reconsidering giving money to Musk. The Chinese EV's are cheaper and in some way already caught up with Tesla. This car is too chatty and missing support of crucial Apps for us to consider at the moment.
I'm with you buddy. The Chinese engineering juggernaut has launched. So we'll be spoiled for choice in 2025 - BYD, Geely, Xpeng, Zeekr, Smart, Leapmotor, MG, plus all the non-Chinese brands we're familiar with - VW group, Kia, Hyundai and for those with more expensive tastes - the other Germans.
Great review Stu. I think it's a good package all round, that despite the barely functional voice assistant and OTT ADAS. Re Tesla - If people think the social shame felt today is bad, just wait - it's only going to get worse!
Thank you for the detailed review. I like the C10. I think thet there is a new OTA that brings a shortcut to disable these driving alarms.
Thanks for a great review. I'd buy it tomorrow if it had at least V2H!
Great review, good car and certainly one to consider. I am hanging out for the launch of the Geely Galaxy EX5 before putting the cash down. Hopefully around the same price - I think it will have better charging architecture. Tesla? Ah - nope.
Nice looking car. They were on our shortlist, but we ended up going in another direction due to the issues Stellantis are having, and potential problems with Warranty servicing.
I think you forgot the best feature. It's got a rest mode where it will lie down the seat, shut the sun shade and put relaxing music on 😊
Good review. Speaking to few soon to change to electric former petrol heads, ability to connect to your home as a source of back up energy is a key feature. Not sure if being linked to Stellantis is a positive. Looking forward to your review on Sealion 7. Should it eventually get the Blade 2 LFP battery, it will kill the electric SUV market and destroy the Model Y.
So from all the Chinese SUVs available now, which one stands out as the best looking? I mean they all have similar inclusions, performance and pricing I think, so it comes down to looks and how well each feature functions, right?
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Hi, I have watched a UA-cam video where the guy removed the driver assistant fuses in the front and that removed all those annoying alarms. There were 2 fuses. GL
If you have a link, please share. I'd be surprised if it was that straightforward. In modern cars you don't usually get fuses dedicated to functions like that.
And void any warranty? Great idea
@@siennasmiles4854 I just put a sticker over it🤣🤣
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Thanks for the info. I don't hate it, but I'm not interested in an SUV, especially not one without functions like android auto, safety features that keep turning back on, poor voice recognition, screen interface instead of buttons, etc.
All valid concerns. I get it. Not for everybody. But apart from those things... it was pretty good
Wow, that lane assist is such a deal breaker for me. My wife has a haval and its unbearable on a small road. How was the zeekr in comparison?
The Zeekr X wasn't so bad on narrow roads. But we didn't use it much. Just became habit to turn it off, together with the distraction and fatigue warnings.
The Zeekr was better than most in this regard
@ That's good to hear, I'm hoping to get a 7x later in the year. I think I read somewhere that you can set it up as a shortcut to turn it off quite easily too. Not sure if I dreamt this but I believe ancap are going to start deducting points for overly annoying safety systems too..
Driving past a BYD shark hehe nice
Have not watched your review as yet, but this looks like another oversized , heavy EV. The majority of Australians who live in urban areas need a small city EV, perhaps something like the Renault 5 EV.
I agree - love the R5 EV - but it's amazing how young families accumulate bulky stuff for their babies - capsules, those giant prams. Like it or not the mid-sized EV remains popular.
The reason SUVs and recreational utes sell so well in Australia is because we love going on road trips. The long weekends will see us taking our families out of the city in droves. And there are many long weekends.
AWD. Good ground clearance. Comfort for everyone and some space for a BBQ, bike, ice box, etc in the boot are essential even if we all live in the cities. Having said that I'm not crazy about the external styling. Perhaps that's where they saved money. External styling/design.
@@MrThaiLuan Your comment is valid to a degree, however the street I live in (just north of Hornsby ) 80% of households are two or three car families. One neighbour has three dual cab utes , one for hubby (builder), one for wifey, one for son. Next neighbour has an Audi A4 and a Tesla model Y. Another neighbour has a Dodge Ram and wife has a Merc Van. I could go on. When I was a child we had an 1960 FB Holden station wagon (tare weigth approx 1120kg) for a family of six, three on the front seat, three on the back seat, and we went on road trips towing a trailer. In those days the barrier highway was still gravel and corrugated and we drove sydney to adelaide loaded up on one of our trips. I still have the Holden and it is spacious on the inside and and not overwhelming on the outside, and it doesnt weigh 2 ton and has good ground clearace. Ok, have a SUV AWD for trips away and have a small EV for the shopping and taking the kids to school.
@@robbara9924 yeah I agree, if one family has 3 huge cars it doesn't make any sense. I mean you should buy the appropriate car for the stage of your life. When I was a young lad, I bought a hatch back. Nissan pulsar SSS. It allowed me to zip around town and even tow stuff. I was active and loved the outdoors so I often went on road trips with it and even took friends in that hatch. It allowed me to carry my first child too when she arrived. Then we got more kids and the car was upgraded to a SUV. If I worked in the trades I'd absolutely buy a ute. Our second car was always a small car.
Seriously with Stellantis' reputation for customer support, if they are involved, it has to be a hard NO!
I find it annoying and a bit short sighted that they won't sentd us the 800V versions - sighting that our infrastructure isn't there. Could only be a year or two away, I would rather have a car that is futureproofed. I would need to do a surfboard test before I make up my mind too 🤙
Unless you're a long-boarder, I think it'd be OK. But you do have the roof rails option too.
They didn't add the more advanced battery because they wanted to keep cost down
Looks a little 2012 Outlander
An old outlander passed me today and the exterior is nearly identical.
Seems like it’s really let down by the software. Not interested in having to turn off everything each time you want to drive.
NO, please don't refer the name to Mao 😂😂 it's irrelevant, I'm Chinese。the Chinese name of leapmotor is 零跑，it means zero racing, maybe referring to zero emissions. Leap is similar pronunciation to zero in Chinese.
Thanks for clarification. I'm showing my western ignorance. "Great leap forward" was something we were taught about in high school, so I was just drawing conclusions of my own.
@inCARnationAustralia It's okay, the great leap forward is not something the Chinese people are proud of, no company in their right mind would name their car in reference to it. 😂😂
Well he can also refer to Winnie xi ji ping poo or the tien an men place massacre?
@@daniel-ino Oh look we have a troll entered the chat! Such a pathetic life you have I imagined 😭😭
Some of these Chinese EV's are starting to make me think of those standard products you buy online these days. This Leapmotor C10, Nio EL8, Xpeng G9 etc. I'm starting to struggle to keep them apart. They are branded somewhat, and not 100% identical, but you know they all look like they come from the same factory because the dimensions, general shape, interior layout and feel are nearly identical.
Might have to do with removing buttons . Phones started to look same once they removed the buttons.
Chinese apps follow the same principles. There are only 2/3 major Plattforms everybody adapts more or less.
Lot of these Chinese cars sold in Australia will little dealership backup should have the same end warning as all gambling apps....
A range like this is useless in Oz unless you use it just as a commuter. My petrol Q3 will get over 800km on a trip. Any electric car I consider will have to do the same. There are very few chargers out where I live in regional Qld. BEVs are not the future however that’s not saying electric isn’t.
A lot of people never venture far from home. The average Australian drives about 27km per day so a full bucket of electrons will last them a fortnight. I was able to do my little Hunter Valley trip no probs without having to charge - although I did just to show it worked. For many people that's all they ever need. However...
1 - Leapmotor do have a EREV version of the C10 that uses a small petrol motor NOT to drive the wheels but to keep the battery charged. Expect a range of 1000km. Hence the large bonnet with all that empty space. Still uses the electric motor for propulsion but on a long trip still gives exceptional fuel economy when it has to kick in the petrol motor - which just ticks over at a constant (efficient) rate. I believe they're bringing it here. Problem solved. Best of both worlds. Economy and range. And power. And almost silence.
2 - I wouldn't say useless. A lot of EV owners find their initial range anxiety disappears after they've owned their car a few weeks. We've all heard the horror stories of waiting to charge during school hols or being ICE'd by some guy who parks his HiLux at the charger - but unless you're the kind of person who says "I can't stop honey, otherwise I'll let through all those people I spent the last two hours overtaking", then probably not an issue. By the time I've bought a coffee and had a leak... off I go again.
3. I'm off to Bathurst regularly. No concern at all. I know there are lots of charging options up there. No inconvenience. Same for Sydney Melbourne. Lots of options and fallback options.
The car either does a fantastic job at self driving or not at all and let me drive. The constant bs from the car trying to help me drive with all the annoying sounds and warnings is definitely a NO NO. I'm not the least bit interested in any reminder when I am and should be in full control of the vehicle.
The new Tesla Model Y does 0-100 in just over 4 seconds, and this does not even come close. This will, however, outpace the Tesla in depreciation. Also good luck getting parts for it 5 years down the track.
People that buy a family sized SUV genuinely don't care about 0-100 pace.
Yes, it's a new brand in Australia. But Toyota, Kia and Hyundai all were too, once.
You're talking about the Long Range Model Y that does 4.3. The price gap to that one is even larger - over $32,000 more ($47,500 vs $79,299 on the road). Which is a lot to pay for that performance. But yeah this car isn't a barnstormer. It's brisk enough for most people but well behind any Tesla. And regarding depreciation, after Tesla's Q4 results today, plus a healthy dose of ECF (Elon Cringe Factor) that comes free with every new Tesla, their depreciation prospects are a bit sad too. Shame 'cos they're good cars.
@@inCARnationAustralia no I’m not talking about the long range, I’m talking about the launch series Juniper Model Y. They are are arriving in Australia with the ‘acceleration boost’ enabled - good for a 4.3 second 0-100 sprint. That is effectively the base model for now.
Elon is cringe, and all those other things combined, but the cars are undeniably good. If people want to part with their hard earned on what is likely to be their second most valuable asset for new to the market Chinese brands with the current unknowns of parts availability, dealer and manufacturer support and medium-to-long term reliability, be my guest. Good luck with that paper weight in the future when the Chinese market consolidates and some of these brands disappear altogether.
I watched a review of a BYD Seal and a warning popped up on the drivers binnacle, and there was a spelling mistake in the warning. If that’s the level of QC they’re putting into their cars, I can’t for the life of me trust the coding that goes into their safety systems and general vehicle controls - doubly so considering everything is controlled through a touch screen these days.
@@hargeaux of course they do, especially in Australia - we are per capita one of the biggest markets for cooking models of regular cars, and that includes SUV’s, Utes etc.
There is a reason cars like the Xpeng G6 and Zeekr 7X have ‘performance’ versions (along with many other Chinese Model Y competitors). Just because you don’t care, doesn’t mean other buyers don’t.
@@joet-gp3dm The cars are undeniably good. Really good. And yes I've noticed spelling mistakes on some Chinese cars too. But the calibration of the ADAS systems on many is enough to tell you some have been rushed to market without proper testing.
I did go to the Tesla Australia web site to order a "New Model Y LAUNCH series" with deliveries expected in begin in May. It still quotes 466km, 201 km/h, 5.9 secs @ $63,400 + ORC. The Long Range quotes 551km, 201 km/h, 4.3s @ $73,400 + ORC. Is that not correct? I gather from the press release, these are the times including the "typically optional Acceleration Boost", and the "usual" times are slower.
Lovely information - if they could intoduce driver profiles that could be save d- no more bing bongs - In the UK Vuaxhall looks good would consider over Tesla - to much rubbish with that company ... My Grandad would roll in his grave...
External styling is very bland.
These totally random names are really bad: xpeng , leap backward, xigangfungkungxhanhching ,
The Nazi car is more bland than the C10 .
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