267: Saurophaganax (Donald, 2023) Review
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2023
- If ever there was a hierarchy of Morrison Formation top predators, Saurophaganax must sit on top.
Larger than even Torvosaurus, let alone Allosaurus, this behemoth must have had very little to fear, even from other predators. With such a cool name to boot, Saurophaganax is a popular one with dinosaur enthusiasts, and here PNSO brings us its version.
Replete with lips, this beautifully painted and sculpted model will easily stand out in any collection of dinosaurs as one to watch. The Lord of Lizard eaters reigns supreme in his kingdom, and his slow amble shows a top dog that does not need to hurry, but causes others to hurry instead.
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This really feels like a massive improvement over their Allosaurus. I'm long overdue for an updated Allosaurus in my collection, so I need to get this at some point (aside from the Cyberzoic Allosaurus I also plan to get, but that's a 1/18 scale action figure, and I treat those separately from my 1/35 static models).
Articulated figures are nice but they can't reall replace static models for realism and beauty in my opinion. And if your collection is mainly 1:35 then you definitely want an important dinosaur like Allosaurus in that scale!
This is really one of the most pleasing theropods I have from PNSO; in fact of all the theropods I do own! Delighted to see a _fragilis_ with those distinct features!
@@DinosDragons I imagine it is because of the seams added from the articulation correct? I know a lot of folks are not interested in them for that reason, despite the otherwise high level of sculpt detail, and decent anatomy (as far as BotM and the upcoming Cyberzoic ones go). Well that and the scale disparity.
i agree,i also prefer static pose over jointed figures...saurophagnax is still rare in figure form and the collecta version was too small and not even that impressive,this version is far better and accurate as well... iv got the rebor version which is another interpretation ....
New PNSO's best for me. Not only it has the great natural posture, accuracy we're used to, but this time the colour application, a "weakness" of this company has imploved a lot, along with the adition of well applied lips, it's a must have if you have the chance.
Definitely agree that this is one of PNSO's best so far, bringing many thing together. Could you elaborate on the weakness of the colour application? PNSO has been doing amazing apps for a long time. It's just their colour palette is sorrowfully limited.
Better than rebor
The best of PNSO so far.
Lets hope that their Tyrannosaurus rex will have lips too, since they update it every several years.
No
They certainly don't rest on their laurels! I love that they really do adhere to the latest sciences. Let's see if this continues!
Own species or not, I love allosaurids. And this one is amazing.
Then you are going to be very happy with this, especially if you want a huge Allosaurus _fragilis_ !
Terrific….another reason I didn’t need to add another theropod to my collection. Actually, this is a very welcome figure. Saurophaganax has been a critter I’ve really been finding very interesting over the past couple of years. Hoping that more can be found to substantiate an animal other than fragilis. The work PNSO has put into this figure has moved it right to the front of the line of my favorites. I also appreciate your putting it together with other contemporary figures. It illuminates, I feel, a better sense of “place” as how the animals our collections represent encompass even a partial environmental biome long gone. I almost think, display-wise, I might have a preference for that kind of assemblage rather than lining up my theropods, sauropods, etc. A really very well done figure. And another great review. Probably place my order this week.
Thank you for your very astute observation! Yes one request I received quite consistently was to do comparisons not just based on cladistics but also with contemporaries. I've started to do that if the video isn't too long, and in doing the comparisons I very much wish I had a huge mansion with immenses rooms to create dioramas of formations. Really felt great to see that "sense of place" as you call it!
I’m personally unconvinced of Saurophaganax being a distinct genus, at least until more remains are described. That aside though, I haven’t been this exited for a PNSO release in a long time, it’s absolutely beautiful. They continue to prove why they’re the best in the business when it comes to accurate dinosaur models.
It seems the vertebra are also fairly distinct between it and Allosaurus. Are there other examples of animals within the same genus having that kind of distinction. Serious question.
I agree, the idea of Saurophaganax as it's own species is awesome, however there's not enough evidence to fully support that yet. It's more likely a subspecies of Allosaurus. Until we unearth/discover more, we won't know for sure. Same goes for Epanterias. At least with what we have/know currently.. This is a very stunning figure however and a cool/more surprising release from PNSO.
@@dericplummer9272 There are only two vertebral characteristics that are considered valid for Saurophaganax and are likely the result of having a larger body size, outside of that though all other remains are completely indistinguishable from Allosaurus. I don’t think it warrants being classified under a different genus. The best example I can think of is comparing a Lion to a Leopard, both are classified under the Panthera genus and live in the same region, but lions are much more heavily built.
@@paleoscinkus542 Thanks for the response. Either way im cool because we have such a cool large theropod. but its a bummer if we have to lose the name Saurophaganax lol. I heard rumors that there was new specimens found recently in New Mexico. If its true hopefully it gives decisive evidence either way.
@paleoscinkus542
I _am_ rather confused by the decisions to split at certain cladistic branches, give how some very dissimilar looking animals today are separated only by species, even if they have morphologically distinct skeletal anatomy. Obvious example is the Pathera genus.
Personally there are of course those annoying laminae, but I look forward to more fossil finds to confirm one way or other. That's one of the things that what makes paleontology exciting for me though... the ongoing debate and waiting for a new paper to be published!
My god, this figure is gorgeous. As soon as I can afford it it will definitely be a must have for me. While the body sculpt and pose are incredible, where it really shines in my opinion is the head, the overall shape and crests imo looks much more like an allosaurus than pnso’s previous attempt, and the lips are a huge bonus! I’ve always been a proponent of lipped theropods, and while I wasn’t a fan of how they were executed on the yangchuano, the way they’re done on this sauro is exactly how I imagine theropods to look in my head!
I have a pet lizard of my own, and the face honestly reminds me of him quite a bit! It looks peaceful, almost friendly, but at the same time there’s a very regal power behind them, you can tell this is an apex predator and not to be messed with.
That's exactly the magic of PNSO. Zhao Chuang and his team are masterful sculptors of something that looks _real_ . Their research is rigorous with rather few slip ups. I wouldn't be surprised if they waited till they could really do lips confidently to put them on their models, and I also suspect that that's why they are taking their time with a 1:35 Spinosaurus and the eudromaeosaurs. I wish they would move on to something else though.
A very complete and enlightening review, ...this Saurophaganax is a must have for me ,I am going to order one as soon as I can..
I think it's an impressive figure, one of the best theropods (if not the best) made by PNSO so far, I just wish that the characteristic of the elongated claw had been somewhat more evident..
Espero que sigas con estos reviews tan completos ,...tus videos son casi obligados a la hora de decidir si una figura vale la pena.
¡Muchas gracias por tus amables palabras! Hago lo mejor que puedo, ya que no son solo una muestra del modelo, sino también una forma de compartir mi amor por la ciencia misma. Sin embargo, sé mucho menos sobre terópodos... ¡Realmente desearía que PNSO finalmente comenzara a hacer algunos no terópodos!
Opino lo mismo , me encantaría que sacaran en particular mas modelos de saurópodos poco conocidos
Best regards!!!@@DinosDragons
you should use this track more often, it’s a banger.!
Looks like PNSO wont move on to any other clades until they've created the perfect Theropod figure. They're getting damn close.
You got that right! This one is I consider one of the most beautiful theropods I own! I've always suspected that PNSO was holding back the really obvious favourites like Spinosaurus and the eudromaeosaurs until they perfected a few things, the way they waited with the Cameron.
At the very least, they've run out of the same old tyrannosaurids and carcharodontosaurids, so any other theropods should be more welcome, coming as they have to from the lesser done carnosaurs!
This guy looks so good, sometimes it’s hard for me to imagine dinosaurs as real animals because there is nothing quite like them on the planet, but the sculpt of this guy makes it easy to imagine it alive goddamn
Tell me about it! No matter how PNSO seems to be in danger of falling to the likes of HLG, they have something really special, that X-factor, that makes their models really stand out for anyone who wants animals that look _real_ .
For me, this figure is so good. Mostly legs looks amazing... this fingers are so good.
It definitely is! I think this is really near the pinnacle of theropod representation that PNSO has done so far, other than the detail defect in the hips and thighs.
What a wonderful figure love the details I like how pnso sculpt love the model
It is truly a masterpiece, this one! Probably their best allosauroid!
I'm already in love with this model, it's stunning for me even if I would have preferred a different color.
Fantastic the comparisions with Haolonggood Apatosaurus and with the Rebor Diplodocus.
At this point I hope PNSO continues with theropods and give us a magnificent Ceratosaurus.
Beautiful review as always.
Thank you for your support again! 😁 Yes, when I was comparing to the HLG Apato and the Rebor Diplodocus, a big part of me really wished I had a huge mansion with large rooms. Imagine creating a diorama with dinosaurs of the same scale!
Man, referring to theropods, I couldn't want Ceratosaurus in 1:35 from PNSO badly enough, except of course a true 1:35 scale Spinosaurus!
Thanks for the great comparisons. Definitely a must have for my Morrison Formation Dino group (which is basically the ones you showed). Now like you mentioned, we need a new 1/35 scale Ceratosaurus! Right now I'm using the Safari Ltd 2012 figure, which is better in person than in pics.
The unfortunate thing about that Ceratosaurus to me are the huge oversized feet, which hopefully PNSO if they keep to their track record will be able to correct and still ensure adequate balance. But PNSO is also notorious for warping with time especially in hot weather, so you'd still need the stand. That said, if they can do a 1:35 in the same colours as their earlier Ceratosaurus model, then I am definitely going to be very happy!
Also yes comparing this model with the Morrison Formation ones because I received numerous requests to do comparisons not just based on phylogenetic but formation as well 😊
Awesome video and model! But to be completely honest what put it over the top for me was the choice of music! What is that song you were using in this video? It's amazing!
Also, your reviews never disappoint! You are indeed a master! Thank you for sharing with us your knowledge and time!
It's Pursuit by morninglightmusic!
I'm loving the lipped theropods. These last two releases are motivation enough to start building dioramas for these figures.
Tell me about it! I had that thought when I was comparing to the HLG Apato and the Rebor Diplodocus!
This is one of my favorite PNSO ever! Definitely picking it up although I’ll be considering it a large Allosaurus (and really the best Allosaurus in my collection). Thanks for the excellent review!
You're most welcome, and you will absolutely be delighted! I think this is easily the best Allosaurus I own, accuracy wise!
This Saurophaganax figure is honestly amazing! I also do like the color scheme! Incredible! Already ordered it. PNSO already was one of the best figure companies but now they making lips, just put them more above! Lipped Torvosaurus would be so nice!
There were some artists helping people by adding lips to their models that were PNSO but now they wont need to do that. xD
@blooky102
And some for really quite astronomical prices too! Hopefully PNSO can continue to perfect the sealing mechanism. As you can see, there are still some gaps.
@venator7251
Indeed! This one is really one of their most beautiful theropods ever. As you can see, lips that don't completely make dinosaurs toothless still look very cool!
It would be very interesting if you could say some words about the price range of the reviewed models. I love your vids anyways, but some (in Europe) not so well known labels/manufacturers aren't kind of not googleble. 😅 THX for your work/engagement and greetings from Germany 🙃
Thank you for your very kind words!
Long ago, I did mention the prices I bought these at, but since I get them in China and pay in RMB, I realised it was not useful at all to most of my Western viewers. In fact, it made some of my viewers frustrated and angry 😅 So I stopped talking about the prices.
@@DinosDragons Okay. You are right. ^^
So, I have to import my models from China, too (it's no problem in Germany). The Prices of PNSO, Haolonggood etc. are well known, but other trademarks you can not buy that easy in Europe. It is just nice to know the prices in direct comparsion to the quality of usual PNSO, Haolonggood etc. models. 🤓
Kind ragards & thx for your answer! 😎 Best dinosaur model channel! 😉
This has become one of my favorites very fast, great review as always (would have liked to see a comparison with the last pnso released to see how the lips looked)
Aiii I forgot to do that! I had every intention of doing it, and got carried away with the sauropods! 🤦♂️
@@DinosDragons no worries mate still a great review !
I've talked to paleontologists about this, and they tell me Saurophaganax is not just Allosaurus.
Also, Saurophaganax is the closest thing we have to Godzilla, not because it's a large carnivore, but because some fossils of Saurophaganax are radioactive due to being discovered in a Uranium deposit.
That’s awesome
I didn't know that about the radioactivity! As for the autapomorphies differentiating Saurophaganax and Allosaurus, it's still in debate. Most of the bones we have of Saurophaganax looks like they could easily be upsized version of Allosaurus, but of course we do have those annoying differences in the vertebrae! 😁
@@DinosDragons One of the paleontologists I've talked to about this also tells me that Saurophaganax's proportions don't match Allsoaurus, also they are separated by some time.
The coloring and detail are both great, I'll buy this‼️
This has to be one of PNSO's best theropods to date!
I'm kind of overloaded with theropods on my display shelf and have been more focused on the various Haolonggood ornithischian and sauropod releases, but this and the recent Gorgosaurus were just too nice to pass up.
It's good that you are so selective, and took your time. That is one major problem with PNSO's inexplicable sales strategy here. By turning out masses of the same clade, or even a major branch, they are all but guaranteeing that people who would have been excited to buy each new reveal now feel desensitized, and just wait around and cherry pick.
By issuing a multitude of clade reps like they did before, each reveal becomes a surprise and more of a must have.
I think you would be very happy with this and the Gorgosaurus.
Great review as always. I was hesitant because in the product images I couldn't tell if it had the enlarged thumb claw but now I'm completely sold. I would have gotten the Allosaurus the moment it released due to it being in my top 3 favorite dinos but that lack of an enlarged thumb claw and different scale definitely threw me off.
Thank you! Well to be clear though, the thumb claw especially on the left is not as obviously enlarged as one might hope, compared to some Allosaurus reconstructions I have seen. It depends on viewing angle also.
This one is very pretty! I love this one's rib stripes and colouration.
That's for sure! It would have been a few levels better with a different colour palette! 😪
You should consider keeping your scale humans around for the end comparisons. Especially for figures of the same scale. The way you posed the theropods at the end made me want to imagine what it'd be like to be stood inbetween XD
Ah, that would work only if the comparisons were scaled, and seems some are not in the same scale as the star of the video, the scale figure would not suffice for the two. Also it makes things a bit messy. I'll think about doing this if dinosaurs from the same formation and in scale are shown though. Thank you for your suggestion!
So beautiful!!
No question!
I don’t think it’s a distinct genus, more likely it’s probably a different species. It could even be a really big allosaurus. We don’t know how big they could grow.
I agree it's certainly more plausible. Some of the differences like the caudal chevrons of Saurophaganax and Allosaurus seem very stark, but other factors can't really rule out differences due to size. Many of the elements look essentially like scaled-up Allosaurus versions.
Excellent review. Love this Dino unfortunately the colors are always brown.
Thank you! Well, it's sad but PNSO insists on the same palette, so the only thing we have to look forward to is how they manage to vary the patterns. Just a change would make their theropods near perfect.
Indistintamente de la validez o no de Saurophaganax, ya que creo que este será un tema debatido durante muchísimo más tiempo, lo que es una maravilla es el excelente nivel que está poniéndole PNSO a sus recientes lanzamientos (salvo por los colores, parece que no salen de sus patrones habituales). Pero, por favor... Suficientes terópodos 🥲 Ojalá el siguiente sea algo inesperado y que se desplace a cuatro patas 😁 Excelente análisis de esta figura, compañero 👏🏼
¡Sin duda! Me estoy cansando mucho de los terópodos. ¡Pero PNSO está empezando a ofrecernos otros más diversos, lo que sigue atrayéndonos!
Creo que fueron las oleadas de dinosaurios del mismo clado, una tras otra, como carcarodontosáuridos y tiranosáuridos, todos parecidos, además de esos mismos colores aburridos, lo que realmente nos enfermó.
Pero si DEBEN hacer terópodos, ¡al menos danos algo de diversidad!
Por supuesto que me muero por los no terópodos. ¡Incluso los que no fueran dinosaurios serían un cambio muy bienvenido!
@@DinosDragons Ojalá te escuchen 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
When can we get a Theropod parade 2.0?
Hahah... when I buy a new table that is twice the size!!🤣
Saurophaganax is the best and am definitely buying it for sure, and I support it being a distinct genus
This review was just as cool as this figure, and I hope you have a great day
It's really quite debatable. Looking at the vertebra I _can_ see difference in the orientation of the laminae, but again with more we'll know if this was indeed distinct or just some kind of variation within genera.
@lesgoubrandon5010
Predator X was sure a major disappointment for me! 😭
No doubt this is one of PNSO s finest. The musculature. The lips...that beautiful neck..the Allosaurid horns...even if Sauraphagonax isn't a separate species of Allosaur...and this is just a large adult Allosaur the sculpture is breathtaking...the various movements throughout the body, head neck feet tail are what makes this very very special. The tiniest scales to the larger facial are just exquisite....PNSO s Allosaur is one of the best I've ever seen...so so.much character...it's alive. Pure jotun beauty of art meeting science. The most beautiful Paleo art. Breathtaking work here. Breathtaking. Xx
Wow I wish I was able to phrase things as poetically as you did in the video! 🤣🤣 Yes indeed, this thing is a thing of beauty. There are so many features that only people who are really into dinosaurs can appreciate, and this one is as close to the total package as possible.... except that colour palette!
This is a very beautiful and natural looking Saurophaganax, but I personally call this as a fully grown Allosaurus because of the appearance and same for Titanoceratops as a mature Pentaceratops.
You could definitely enjoy this as a very large and mature Allosaurus _fragilis_ !
What's your thoughts on Lanatimeshop original brand t-rex figure?
I want to hear your opinion, before AliExpress sales on 11th Novemer!
Needless to say, but your review is the best as always!
Thanks for your kind words! I'm actually rushing to prep for a trip to Bali, but I had a quick look and from first impressions, the head looks a little too small. However this is based on BHI 3033, which does have a rather smaller looking head compared to the typical reconstructions you will see. If you like models based on specific specimens, I think it looks fine.
For me, I don't have any special attachment to BHI 3033, and I prefer something that falls more in line with what I imagine a typical dinosaur to be 😁 Otherwise it does look good but I don't have time to do a careful scrutiny. Perhaps you could ask on one of the internet forums?
If PNSO is doing Theropod and Theropod where the hell is their dilophosaurus?? They have yet to make one
This Lord of Lizard-Eaters besides from there Torvosaurus I was or am the most excited for this theropod figure.
And who knows someday, they may update their Torvosaurus!
Lord of the Lizard Eaters is probably the best dinosaur name
@@DinosDragons
Hopefully one day that will happen, I wonder if Pnso will recreate Ceratasaurus in 1/35th scale alongside this if Pnso does remake many of there lipless genera Pnso could base, there newer models. For example let’s say this remake is for an Allosaurus this newer figure could be based off Big AL 2 for A. jimmadseni. That would pretty amazing. The last thing, I find, personally interesting is when you see a typical S. maximumus reconstruction, I find quite odd because it’s almost always done in a way to make Saurophaganax look like nothing more then an oversized A. fragilis or A. jimmadseni. Which is understandable do too limited remains anyway the point, I’m trying to make is why isn’t S. maximumus reconstructed like other large theropods (I’ll explain) when you, me, and or anybody who really learns or studies theropod anatomy. Tends to notice nearly any theropod genera thats 9-10+ meters or more, there body proportions tend converge on these specific traits. Such as the following Larger skulls, shortened neck, more robust bodies, smaller arms, shortened yet robust legs. So instead of an oversized A. fragilis why not something more like another close relative like A. atokensis? Of course without the elongated neural spines and with a skull more akin to either A. fragilis or A. jimmadseni.
PNSO is infamous for delivering obscure species, and here we go again. Even though I never liked Rebor Saurophaganax, seeing this PNSO Saurophaganax makes me believe that it is a valid species after all. PNSO can turn a chimera into a valid species with its gorgeous sculpting and painting. And we've witnessed that several times with species like Sinopliosaurus and Nanotyrannus. I always try to buy valid and scientifically accurate toys and figures. But if I ever get the chance to buy this, I won't think twice about buying this beauty. And I'm sure you, sir, know I love my dinosaurs dark, and look at the color scheme on this😍. But I'd love to see more colors on those horns. Since the name 'Donald' refers to a male, I wouldn't mind if it had a much more colorful face and horns (most of the male animals are vibrant and colorful). And I want PNSO to try another thing with their figures. I'd like to see more sharp teeth on their figures. I'm sure these figures are not for small kids, and blunt teeth make these valuable and gorgeous figures a bit more ugly. Just imagine if this figure had Rebor-like teeth but with these PNSO colors. It would be absolutely mind-blowing. I loved the review as always, my dear sir. You are the best, and I want to wish you nothing but the best. I am excited for the next video.❤
Nice to hear from you always! I love the way you put it. PNSO can indeed "turn a chimera into a valid species". And even from sparse material like Sinopliosaurus and Zhuchengtyrannus. The way they focus on reality really sells their models.
Good point about the horns. Really, ANY splash of colour _other_ than the browns would be seriously welcome! I just don't get it sometimes. It's almost like PNSO is trolling us and testing our loyalty 🤣
Rebor really does the nicest teeth I have seen. It would be amazing to see at least better painted teeth on PNSO, which would really tip any model closer to the perfection mark. Alas, that's not what we've been having.
I think I should take my word back about 'Nanotyrannus'. With that new paper, I think Nanotyrannus is definitely a valid and unique species.
It's okay if PNSO made Tyrannosaurus and Spinosaurus again. Because those two species are ever-evolving, and they are the most famous. But I'm sure us collectors don't want to buy the same figure twice. So I hope they will give us the full and final product from all these species.
Agreed. At least better-painted teeth. I'm sure it's not that hard since they put all their efforts into creating these figures. So hopefully, they will take it into consideration.
Mine arrived from Amazon. Beautiful critter!
Mine's mouth doesn't close perfectly in the front, but not a big deal to me.
The color: It's got me confused. The orange along the sides (which is so nice and subtle) saves it, but if it weren't for that It'd be really monotone and muddy! Almost like they didn't run a last dark color pass for some reason. When I place him next to his cousins, he looks like an albino, lol. The sculpt is so wonderful though, I think I'll get used to it.
On side note: I'm running a little standing test.
My Gorgosaurus and Yangchuanosaurus have stood on my coffee table without assistance since I got them, which has been at least a week for Yang and longer for Gorgo. Sauro has been standing on its own for a few days. Yes he's precarious, but he's so amazingly balanced I'm really curious to see if he eventually succumbs to gravity. (On the other hand, Cameron bit the dust in less than a day, lol).
Thanks again for your wonderful videos!
Sadly, perfect lip seal seems to elusive as shown by show many models don't achieve it. Have you tried the hot water treatment?
The colour is really sad to be honest. Such a wonderful dinosaur in sculpt and all it needed was just a shade of something different. I would never have thought he stood out as an albino though. I thought he was one of the mudddier ones.
Why on earth would you be trying this dangerous experiment? 🤣🤣 Hopefully they're not going to be falling off a high shelf to their doom below!
Even though it is another theropod, PNSO has done an amazing job with this one and I can't wait to get my own. I also really enjoyed the music you chose for this review; I feel it reflects the primal spirit of the model itself.
Haha thank you! It's actually one of the music I reserve for my dragon reviews, but Saurophaganax _maximus_ is so epic in so many ways I had to whack it in! 😁
I'm so glad PNSO is truly going to go on with the lips on their theropods, personally this is the best theropod they currently have. (im a little disappointed it isn't as green as it was in promo images though..)
Well who knows, maybe in the lighting you have the green might show up more! And wouldn't it be a totally mind mess if the next theropod from PNSO had no lips! 🤣
Wow!! It looks good along side all the sauropods you showed. A must for my collection. As always a wonderful review.
I know! When I was showing that, I wished I had a huge room in which to set up a real 1:35 diorama of different formations!
I am a little disappointed in the paint job. I though the green looked great on the promotion images so I am sad to see its mostly gone. But other than that this is really great. I just know as soon as I get it a new paper will come out with more findings on Saurophaganax and render this obsolete lol.
Well it's a bit of a gamble in that sense, but seriously, when you look at the dinosaurs like Carnotaurus or Miragaia with just that one lonely fossil after years and years, you can take the odds that nothing will happen for a while!
Tú hiciste una excelente review! 😁👏 Me encanta el nivel del esculpido de las escamas del cuerpo que ha hecho PNSO, además su trabajo de pintura me parece excelente con las varicaciones de color, son sutiles pero bien diferenciados 🤩 Un gran acierto con esta figura por parte de esta compañía! 👌 Tu idea sobre que PNSO anuncie un ceratosaurus o abelisáuridos me parece estupenda! Me encantaría ver un Ceratosaurus especialmente 🤔 Yo recientemente estaba leyendo sobre un paleontólogo que opinaba que los osteodermos de la espalda no serían visibles como se hacen ver en reconstrucciones populares 😮
¡Gracias! No sé qué quiso decir el científico con el que habló, pero osteodermos, por definición, significa "huesos debajo de la piel". Como tal, no tendrías motivos para verlos en un color diferente. ¡Serían del mismo color que la piel que los cubría!
Es interesante si entiendo correctamente a tu amigo. ¡Podría querer decir que es posible que ni siquiera veas ninguna textura elevada sobre el osteodermo!
@@DinosDragons exactamente! El comentaba que probablemente esos osteodermos ni siquiera serían visibles 👀
Aha! lol. I knew it! I am still waiting for mine.
It will be well worth the wait!
It looks like it’s too covered with mud from your review. Very realistic!
This figure looks very good in it's details,but why does it have lips suddenly(I prefer lipped theropods)considering Pnso's past with lips
The assumption is that PNSO likely had alot of their other non lipped theropods in the pipeline before the most recent paper came out so they fast tracked them. Thats why we have had so many theropods recently. Hopefully all theropods in the future will have them because it looks near perfect.
PNSO is continually evolving, and this probably has to do with the Cullen et al 2023 paper being a supporting piece of evidence that started to convince Zhao Chuang. They _have_ experimented with lips before they moved to completely lipless, and it's possible that all their unlipped theropods were already planned for release.
I really like this model! It's just somehow so pleasing to look at. The stance and colours and lips all work together so well.
I was about to pull the trigger on their A. jimmadseni but have since stopped cause of this guy, and I wonder if I should wait for an updated one with lips. I may end up getting Donald as a large A. fragilis, but maybe I'll wait a little longer for now.
I was looking forward to a comparison with PNSO's updated Stegosaurus here, but alas! It does look good next to the HLG Apatosaurus though. And I'm glad it's still significantly smaller and less robust than either Wilson or Cameron.
Thank you for another great review!
Thank you!
Did you mean wait for an updated A. _jimmadseni_ as in their previous Paul but with lips and better skin quality? I never thought of that! I think if they were to do that there won't be many complaints with _this_ again-theropod offering!
Unfortunately, my PNSO Stegosaurus is out for repainting and at the end of a very long queue, so I will probably not have it back for another six months or so 😣
wow amazing! great review - where did you get him from? i cant seem to find it anywhere
It's out in China already. You guys should be getting yours very soon!
@@DinosDragons cant wait for it! i really like the direction that haolonggood and PNSO are going with their lipped therapods, hopefully PNSO can make more sauropods soon!
I’m thinking that maybe they don’t do lips with tyrannosaurids or maybe even tyrannosauroids in general, but they probably put lips on allosauroids for now on that’s just my own speculation, on pnso what they are doing
Well it will certainly have consistency across that clade. Just having these two lipped ones, I think you can appreciate that lipped reconstructions have their own beauty, whether we agree with the idea or not! 😊
@@DinosDragons well until we find a mummy, we will know the truth
Incredible pose and credible throat form, why is the tail regressing to a skinnier shape though?
PNSO has often gone on the side of too thin for their models 😣
The idea that something is deliberately missed out with each otherwise astounding improvement becomes difficult to ignore ...@@DinosDragonsstaggering model though! Would be slightly tempted to fill in the join between the throat part and the neck, not usually such a big deal but with the wonderful komodo-dragon like form they've captured I think it would be worth it. Thanks as ever!
I'm selling my rebor one and getting this. Less stylized and lips too!
For something more scientifically plausible, this is certainly the one you want! In fairness it looks to me that Rebor didn't intend to focus on offering scientific accuracy for many of their earlier offerings.
@@DinosDragons Very true.
Where did you order him? Amazon hasn’t released him yet, and I have no alternatives to Amazon yet.
'Everything Dinosaur' is another option. I find them cheaper than Amazon.
I think it's out already.
@@DinosDragons it did like 2 hours after I said this. It’s the price I’m really looking for a way around, which I looked at everything dinosaur and I’m gonna try that.
I have a hand claw of this animal and it’s a replica and it’s huge
Where did you get the replica hand claw?
Wow that must be awesome to look at!!😲 Where'd you get it?
awesome figure
Without a doubt!
Ordered this soon as it came out and im still waiting 😢
I'm sure you'll get it soon! Makes receiving it all the sweeter! 😊
i have fallen in love, its " almost " perfect, sadly i dont 100 percent believe saurophaganax is its own dino ( yet) but theres worse such as megaraptorans, zhuschengtyrannus etc.
There are a lot of other dinosaurs way more fragmentary than this that's for sure! The question is, of the fragments we do have, how diagnostic it is? Some like Zhuchengtyrannus though really pathetic, do have some differences, and also enough to reconstruct since there are so many other tyrannosaurids and we know they have generally a very consistent bauplan. Others like the megaraptorans seem to me to be potentially vivisected put together animals.
I personally see this as a refined allo, I keep telling myself I won't get any more pnso but then they immediately change my mind😅😂
That's the thing! I had almost decided I wouldn't get another tyrannosaurid, and then they came up with Gorgosaurus! And then when I said I wouldn't get another theropod, along comes Megalosaurus. And then of course the Yangchaunosaurus and then this. I think the key thing that really drove people to boredom was member from the same clade which all had the same general bauplan, like the carcharodontosaurids and the tyrannosaurids. Now that it's stil theropods but at least, a variety of clades and bauplans, it's more palatable. Now... colour palette... the final frontier!
The countdown for the lipped Cameron begins.
My guesses for their next theropods: Ceratosaurus, Asfaltovenator or Maip.
I hoping for a new Spinosaurus soon.
@@dericplummer9272 the Mesozoic Life one is awesome already
@dericplummer9272
You and I both!
크 예쁘다 나도 주문했는데 자립이 좀 불안해보인다
Did you mean it might not be steady or well-balanced? That is for sure. I'm lucky that the table I use for reviews works ok with this model, but on some shelves or tables I have at home, the thing doesn't stand for long before falling over!
Why the Hell isn't showing up on Ali Express?!?
yeah im wondering too, im constantly checking ali express hoping the figure is for sale
I have no doubt it will be out soon. I believe most stores have them once PNSO puts them up.
large allosaurus fragilis= amplexus.
I do not collect carnivores but damn this thing has to be the best looking carnivore that they have ever released. It is smeexxy. Lips are definitely the way to go.
It would be interesting to see which model ever tips you in the direction of purchase... if ever! 😁
Song?
What song si the one you played on the video???? Please
It's called Pursuit. I use it exclusively for my dragon reviews, but this model and dinosaur are so epic I had to put that in!
@@DinosDragonsWhere did you find "Pusuit"? This music is hauntingly beautiful. Do you know the artist? My music apps can't identify the song.
Il existe même des estimation de Saurophaganax de 13 m de longueur
I have seen them and I am not convinced by their arguments. The methods they use such as proprotional scaling and allometry can get wildly off depending on ontogeny of the specimen. In my opinion it's always safest not to take extremes of upper or lower limits.
@@DinosDragons bien il existe d’après fanéro de devienart un squelette fragmentaires qui appartiendrait un Saurophaganax qui aurait atteint une taille minimale de 12.5 m de longueur en réalité sela ne me surprendrait pas car il avait pas mal de grand sauropode a la fin du jurassique supérieur.
(UA-cam keeps spewing errors. My comment keeps being evaporated while I was trying to
correct some sentences. IDK why)
In these days I was away from paleontology. Simply put, life happened. That's not really a
fun and important part here so let's move on.
One day, when I arrived home I saw a notice from UA-cam. A notice about your video.
"PNSO Saurophaganax". I watched it and I ordered one. "Saurophaganax from PNSO? With
proper Allosaurid thumb claws? With LIPS?! Dear lord(kinda funny considering I'm not a
religious guy), I can't resist!"
A week later, it has arrived. It is wonderful! About its colour(2:42), maybe it could be a
difference in lightings. Mine looks same with one in the box art. If I put it under a lighting
setup with warmer tone, it might look like yours in the video. About its lips(5:13) and jaw,
unlike yours, lips of mine don't seal well in the front half. I don't mind because it forms a
smirk face and I like it. XD On the other hand, the jaw is the stiffest among PNSO theropods
that I have experienced. It will be loosen overtime, but it was quite a suprise.
As an Allosauroid fan, this one is not only a pleasent suprise but also the most favorite one.
As always, thank you for your great reviews.
Thank you for your comment. I am happy to receive such experiences from viewers!
Life always has a way of distracting and testing us, but what we always manage to return to shows what we value. I'm glad you found your way back to paleontology. This is a pretty niche interest so it's always nice to see people come back to this interest!
Indeed, colour temperature makes a huge difference! In some light I can see the green, in others not so. I try to change the colour temperature sometimes to see if I can arrive at the same colour, but for this one I was not very successful. The important thing is what it looks like under your display conditions. I have this idea of a dream display cabinet one day when I have the $$$ which will feature 5500K lighting.
I think if you are a fan of allosauroids, then this is one to get, even if you were to use it as an Allosaurus _fragilis_ . This one really is fantastic, and would have been 100% perfect if only PNSO were to use a different colour palette!
It's good that you can take a positive view of your lips not sealing fully. You could try to hot hair dryer technique and see if that helps, but I think 100% lip seal is still something many companies will struggle with, simply because a dead toy doesn't have the same pliability as a pair of live animal lips!
@@DinosDragons About lips, there are two theropod models in my collection. One is being the good ol' Jurassic Park style Velociraptor from Papo and the another is new Saurophaganax. Being qurious, I compared their lips. The Saurophaganax shows a bit of gap in front half - about a milimeter at the tip. Papo Velociraptor, on the other hand, lips seals perfactly - considering it is over a decade old this is suprising. Strolling around among UA-cam videos, I see some of reviewers' Saurophaganaxes' lips don't seal, just like mine. I'll try the hot hair dryer after I loosen up its jaw hinge more. It's still a bit stiff. Thanks for your advise.
PNSO's colour palette... we could say it's natural for animals, but I see it uses brown a lot. I agree with you in this part but I think this Saurophaganax's colour scheme is fantastic. When It is dark and warmer colour light condition it looks brown - blending in a forest at sunrise and sunset. But in bright and colder colour light condition, it looks more greener and blends in nicely in daytime forest. In terms of camouflage this would work well in wide range of sunlight conditions so I think this is why PNSO choose this paintings.
On the other hand, I wanna see more vibrant colours from future PNSO models too. They used brown too much. Considering their Meraxes gigas it's obvious that they can do it more than anyone.
+ While I was loosening the jaw I applied a bit of pressure to lower jaw before closing it. The gap of lips is getting closer - now it is less than a half milimeter.
+ Second update: Praise our lord and savior, the hairdryer!
Je vois que pnso a décidé d’aller du côté de la espéculation à la place de vrai donner scientifique car les lèvres ne sont pas scientifiquement précis puisque on n’ à aucune preuve directe actuelle donc leur dinosaures sont devenus presque précis mais pas précis a 100% maintenant plus il ne donne pas d’explications pour rajouter des lèvres alors qu’il en avait pour que les dinosaures theropode en n’ont pas que cela veut dire en réalité je pense qu’il veulent juste faire plaisir aux en puplic en réalité ce public qui croit que les dinosaures theropode avaient des lèvres charnue est surtout longue s'en explications convenable.
MAIS c’est surtout une bonne vidéo
Thank you for your comment.
PNSO has always done what they believed to be scientifically accurate. As far as lips go, the preponderence of arguments seem to point that way. The Cullen et al 2023 paper was quite a strong supporting point for that argument. While we won't ever know for sure, palaeontology has always been about weighing arguments and then speculating one way or another depending on what the evidence seems to suggest.
I like that PNSO and Zhao Chuang aren't emotionally tied to one argument or the other, and it is possible that the arguments finally swayed them to consider the possibility.
I don't agree on the money making part, since they could have switched to this earlier than they did. Certainly, they could have given Cameron lips considering how wildly popular the concept is now and made a bunch of money. They probably had all their carcharodontosaurids and tyrannosaurids finalised and in production already, so it was too late to do anything about it.
But who knows what will happen? Maybe their next theropod will suddenly have no lips again!
@@DinosDragonsoui m'aime si il existe des arguments solide aussi pour dire que les dinosaures no-aviaires n’avaient pas de longue lèvres comme celle si
Im more lipless team but that saurophaganax is awesome
That's for sure, whichever side of the camp we might be on!
PNSO потеряли хватку, модели все хуже и хуже.
Yes. 😢
Could you elaborate?
@@DinosDragons По моему мнению модели после нового Тиранозавра выглядят ужасно