Really like that you had a bigger-boned test rider as part of the team! Not everyone is a fitness junkie but still likes to ride. I valued his opinions!
Just completed my first ride on my Wild FS that I bought based on this review. Thank you so much, the bike is amazing and your review really helped me resolve six months of wrangling debate. You were spot on. Cheers
Do us a favor and repost this video and tell all your friends to subscribe!! Thank you and we're hoping to get there as quickly as possible! We've only had our channel out for a year but hopefully with your help we'll get there.
Great review! I purchased the Orbea Wild FS after testing myself many others and I am extremely happy after a few months of extensive use! This bike will just improve your riding abilities and consistently put a smile on your face.
Another good thing of the Orbea is that you can fit between two sizes, other brands are too strict on sizing. Heighting at 1.70 f.e you can stay on S for keep the playfull performance or go M for more roomy stable downhill performance, even if you increase front travel reach is generous and i guess the added stack necessary so ...
Thank you for taking the time out to put all this together for us riders! I learned quite a bit. I'm really looking forward to your next video. My new 29 Norco Sight is coming in soon and I'm wondering what you all think about it 👍
I have the Kenovo expert and yes its a beast. Twin crown forks great but changed to HSC damping assy much better and running fox fluid in bath in forks forks smoother in operation and slic honey on seals, Fox DHX2 coil much better than standard as better hold up in corners and more control on rebound, New Magura 220 mm disc, now it stops good as the sram discs not great but sticking with Sram sintered pads as they are the best. New stem for 35mm Raceface bars less vibration on wrists down rough trails. Soft compound glue on grips as dont like lockon , Sram GX 12 speed chain on 11 speed sram better change than 11 speed chain, the seat post will be getting changed to a fox factory dropper as standard post not adjustable enough, tyres dropped size to 2.3 as 2.6 to wide for wet trails better feed back so Maxxis DHF and E*thirteen TRSr rear as compound great as had left over from my YT capra pro race. Wheels holding up well spokes strong and haven't had to tighten a spoke yet. Front tyre pressure 24psi and 22psi rear with Stans Race sealant,
The production value of your videos is absolutely superb. Nice that you pop a little humour in too. As far as Giant is concerned, I too was shocked by how much torque the Yamaha motor had. The downside is that Giant really haven’t got their designs right. The battery isn’t held in well enough, the electrics are too inconsistent (they’ve had a lot of problems with a lack of waterproofing) and when the motor is removed, there are so many wires in the way, that’s it’s ridiculously frustrating to refit the motor. Anyway, I’m looking forward to seeing more of your videos. Really enjoyed this one. Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks for the input and watching a long Chris. Very glad to hear you enjoyed it. And yes, Giant has the ability to do so much more. We're hoping for some improvements in the future.
@@chriskros8858 derestricting is what gives e bikes a bad name. Guys going 60 kmh on bike paths isnt cool. France just passed a 30k euro fine for tampered bikes. Need to go fast? Get a supermoto.
@@scottpratico1315 You have wrong imagination about detestricting of e mtb. First of all going 60 kph is simply impossible with mtb gearing optimised. In practice going 30-35 is possible in short periods. Absolute max ca 40 kph but believe me nobody is able keep such speed to long and battery can be eaten very fast. 2nd limited e bike can be dangerous in many situations on the enduro track. 3rd derestrivying is not for going 60 between children as in the cars max speed 250 is not for going in the city. Have you seen limited car to 50 kph? Think that restricted bike is limited going uphill only. Going down 60 kph is possible for every bike. Race bikes go sometimes 100 kph and they are dangerous no good brakes no tyres no suspension as m MB. 4th such drastic law as you mentioned can be influence of very strong lobby. People should change these very stupid politics. 5th some E-bikes really are dangerous they have 5000W power and propertoies of motobikes but not E-MTB sold as the legal bikes 250 W even derestricted . Detestricting such poor motor as 250W helps to keep speed due to gained kinetic energy so riding is more efficient. Also helps for commuting on the street. Car drivers goin behind bike are more happy if they can not overtake on narrow roads when bike goes faster than 25. And tell me why E bike owner who paid a lot of money for such machine cannot go faster than 25 kph (to heavy to go so fast without assistance) when on the same road legs powered bikes go 35 kph? Don't you think it is discrimination? People do not listen too much politics They set law the lobbysts require not good for you. The same is with cars and planes. Cars make polution planes not. W bikes bad thing because people do not commute by cars Don't you see they say one and make something opposite?
Amazing reviews guys! When making a purchase like an e-bike you really want to know what you're getting before spending that kind of money. Thanks to this, deciding on the YT was even easier. One disappointment was why commencal didn't send the new meta power sx to test in this category?
We sent a lot of emails out to Focus in hopes of getting one for the review...Our buddy Geoff rides for them and he seems to like it a lot. It looks cool, and may ride pretty well, but we don't know as of yet.
May I suggest, next time team up with michelin and put some E-Wild enduros on every bike or some Eddy current if you prefer another brand. That time you'll do something that no one have done before. You'll have your branded shootout. Good work guys! I like your channel by the way...and I just subscribe to your channel.
Love this vid especially since you have most of the one's that I'm looking at! But could you not get a Scott Genius eRide? It's 150 on each end but not classified as an enduro bike. Btw... I'm really digging the 920 build over the higher priced builds from Scott. It has the new Bosch CX and the color is just freaking beautiful!! Totally not what you expect from what you see on their website!!
Thanks for watching and writing in. The 150mm and below bikes are going to be published on March 4th. If you visit theloamwolf.com you can see all the "contestants" in their glory and read our in-depth reviews. We figured nobody wanted to watch a 1 hour video... Regarding Scott, we had a Genius last year and really like it a lot! However this year they did not want to take part in our group test so, sadly, we did not bring one to Palm Springs with us. Thanks again
Nice review, thanks. Im a little bit sad that the moustache Samedi Game isnt tested, too. But maybe they´re not into the american market, too?!... Im really looking foward to the Trailbike Test. Thumbs up ;)
Thank you Florian, We appreciate you writing in and watching the video. We do not have have any way to get Moustache bikes here. We tried to get as many bikes as we could. Hope you enjoy the Trail video tomorrow!
Great video. I’ve pre-ordered a 2021 Wild FS largely on the strength of this review. I’m 5ft 11 & cannot choose between a L & XL. I’m worried about the short reach on the large, but don’t want an overly long bike for the tight trails I spend 90% of my time riding. What do you think? Demo rides are not available in my area currently.
Right on congrats! if you mostly spend time on tighter trails, we'd say go with the Large. It'll be a solid choice for all but the fastest, steepest and wide open terrain. We always say pick the best setup for the most common riding you do.
Great Video; Thank you! I also like your 2020 Trail bike review. I have my eye on the Trek Rail (9.8 version). It seems like the Rail splits the middle between Trail/Enduro. How do you feel the Rail would have stacked up against the other Enduro bikes in your test?
hey guys props to a great video but not sure how you can say the "suspension tune " is better on the 2020? its totally the same build as the 2019? maybe you just didn't tune the bike when you tested it in 2019. im not a hater just think its miss leading what you are saying.
Thanks for writing in and glad you enjoyed the video Sam. For what it's worth, this is the "official reply" from YT when we asked them about the changes, not only to the improved feel on trail. The motor differences were definitely the biggest improvement over the 2019 we rode. Obviously, there is also the chance there was a QC issue from Fox and perhaps we had a bad shock, but per YT's reply, the 2020 has a different tune. "...Rear shock tune codes are different as well. 2019; DTPD 2020; D2K9"
i totally agree with you Sam. Ps Sams bike videos Rock!!! How can Loan wolf first produce a vid with so many errors in the facts, then produce a second decoy video with corrections and still not rate it and then produce this vid saying that the bikes Awesome. Now I know it is awesome after watching Sams vids, however, i do feel that you are misleading viewers. May be too much nitrogen in the nito cold brew coffee is causing you to have the bends?
@@TheLoamWolf Motor difference? they are still using the same. motor ? I'm confused and this tune code is maybe just a few click of low speed rebound and compression? you guys do make great videos but it does make me think what else you are getting wrong I really know the decoy so I picked up on everything... 95% of the people are watching have not ridden the the bike so try and get it right.
12:35 what was tight? The corner? The cockpit? The suspension? Did it have too long a wheelbase? It cuts right into somebody talking about it being too soft or something about it being ...sprung...? Weird cut there. What do you guys mean?
Do you think the Orbea Wild FS in an XL would have solved your issue with the reach? I've heard that the Large is really more of a medium. I'm 6 ft. and am deciding which eMTB to get. My two top contenders are the YT Decoy Elite and the Orbea Wild FS. But only based on specs and reviews. I've never even seen them in person or ridden them.
As a heavier rider (6ft 4in, 230lb) how did you guys find the Bosch CX 75nm motor for climbing? Does it do it OK or does it struggle? I have tried the Bros 90nm motor on the Specialized Levo which I liked a lot, but the Bosch motor is more common and allows for greater selection of bike manufacturers.
6:25 giant “getting up in price point” is BS. AXS + Fox factory. Also, you tested an XL. I have not ridden one in anger so can’t comment, but good to acknowledge these facts in your comments.
We couldn't get one here. We tried to contact as many brands as possible. We didn't get in touch with anyone there bu some others that don't have much distribution in North America just felt it wasn't the best use of resources.
We'd love to get one, and a Husqvarna to match our fE350 dirt bike. Sadly we don't get any responses from their website and it seems they aren't pressing much in North America.
@@TheLoamWolf I know right? When i read the race results I was like Team Who? Bike What? Those euros do their own thing when it comes to bikes. At any rate, that was the best bike shoot out of any kind Ive ever seen. Great work.
Hey Damien, Thanks a lot. It was the 2020 Mullet version. theloamwolf.com/2020/03/01/emtb-roundup-yt-decoy-pro-race-review/ Above is the full written review on the website. That guy was 5'9 the rest of us are 5'11"- 6-foot
Awesome review guys just stuck on sizing for myself at the moment. Was the large frame the correct size for the guys who was 5”11 and 6foot? Im 5”11 myself and stuck between getting the large or xl but as in from the uk and can’t really try them out. Thanks
The Loam Wolf in the video you said the orbea had the shortest reach with 455? But the yt is 450? Sorry to be nit picking but im stuck between buying the two lol
Because it has 140mm of travel. This video is the Enduro (Part 1) video which is for bikes over 155mm of travel. Visit our website and watch Part 2 video, dropping today! The review on our site goes into great detail of the bike. We like it very much.
whats the difference with the 2020 decoy as in 2019, Loam wolf did not rate it, They also say that the 2020 bike is more nimble. the only thing thats changed is the drive train and removal of di2 shifiting
Yes Matt, the longer fork has made some minor but notable differences on the trail, but the biggest changes we felt are the STEPS motor tune firmware updates and especially the new shock tune. It helps liven up the rear end greatly.
Thanks we battled trying to include the most important but also bare minimum so as to prevent us making a 30minute video just yapping on and on. Which we easily could have done. Ha ha. If you visit theloamwolf.com, all the bikes have detailed reviews and the weights there.
jak p no sorry. We have a Haibike in the Trail category. We tried but have no contacts at KTM or Husqvarna and it doesn’t appear they’re trying to make inroads for the North American market. We’d love to get them. March 4th our Trail video drops. Stay tuned.
The Loam Wolf I was thinking of Haibike in a more gnarly category. They make bikes that could be classified as downhill. Curious if it could really hold up to downhill use.
@@jakp8777 They certainly do. If you go to theloamwolf.com we actually reviewed their longer travel bike a few months back and addressed that! Go check it out. It may help.
Check our Trail category video dropping today. That video will feature bikes with 150mm of rear wheel travel and less. The Trek Rail has 150, and if you're considering that bike, you should definitely go to our website to read the review.
Really like that you had a bigger-boned test rider as part of the team! Not everyone is a fitness junkie but still likes to ride. I valued his opinions!
Amazing video, the work load that you guys have put in to produce this is incredible!
Rob Rides EMTB thank you Rob! That means a lot. It is the result of a lot of stress and late nights.
Agree 100 fuckin percent! Killed it!!!!
@@JenkinsB Thanks very much.
Man this guy should have millions of subs for the quality of this video. I don't even care about the review
Just completed my first ride on my Wild FS that I bought based on this review. Thank you so much, the bike is amazing and your review really helped me resolve six months of wrangling debate. You were spot on. Cheers
So glad to hear this and congrats on the new bike! Thanks for letting us know.
Great job! Not only was this super informative, but the riding footage was excellent as well.
YT knows how to do a proper bike! Well done YT
I'm wondering why you still have only some few subs! You deserve 100k +! 😎 Great work, nice pictures - simply good job! 👍
Do us a favor and repost this video and tell all your friends to subscribe!!
Thank you and we're hoping to get there as quickly as possible! We've only had our channel out for a year but hopefully with your help we'll get there.
Great review! I purchased the Orbea Wild FS after testing myself many others and I am extremely happy after a few months of extensive use! This bike will just improve your riding abilities and consistently put a smile on your face.
Great to hear!
Love it! Great Production here with this one!
Keep up the great work and keep em coming!!!
Love the western music lead in ;)
These trails are sick and bike looks amazing!
wow that was a fast 17 mins. that's how u know it was a good video
adza botchway thanks very much for watching!
Another good thing of the Orbea is that you can fit between two sizes, other brands are too strict on sizing. Heighting at 1.70 f.e you can stay on S for keep the playfull performance or go M for more roomy stable downhill performance, even if you increase front travel reach is generous and i guess the added stack necessary so ...
Well done!! And I love my Orbea Wild!! Best bike I’ve ever had!! Hands down!!
Brandon Walton iv just ordered the wild m20. Did u test ride the levo? I never had the chance to and im wondering if i should of went levo.
Agree. I rode a few before I purchased the Wild. It's the most fun bike I've EVER ridden.
Awesome video! I’ll be in the market in another year but love to hear the great reviews
Vape for life bro
Great production!!! Very useful and timely review for my next e-bike!! Congrats!
Thanks very much Daniel! Stoked to hear it and happy hunting on your next bike.
And any idea what that e-bike will be, Daniel?
Absolutely killed it on this video! Very helpful since I'm trying to decide what bike to get this year!
Awesome thanks very much. Excited to hear what bike you end up getting.
Thank you for taking the time out to put all this together for us riders! I learned quite a bit. I'm really looking forward to your next video. My new 29 Norco Sight is coming in soon and I'm wondering what you all think about it 👍
Right on man! Thanks very much and we are glad you enjoyed it. Just one more day to wait...
Best emtb review I've seen!
Thank you!
By a long way, too 🤙🏻
I have the Kenovo expert and yes its a beast. Twin crown forks great but changed to HSC damping assy much better and running fox fluid in bath in forks forks smoother in operation and slic honey on seals, Fox DHX2 coil much better than standard as better hold up in corners and more control on rebound, New Magura 220 mm disc, now it stops good as the sram discs not great but sticking with Sram sintered pads as they are the best. New stem for 35mm Raceface bars less vibration on wrists down rough trails. Soft compound glue on grips as dont like lockon , Sram GX 12 speed chain on 11 speed sram better change than 11 speed chain, the seat post will be getting changed to a fox factory dropper as standard post not adjustable enough, tyres dropped size to 2.3 as 2.6 to wide for wet trails better feed back so Maxxis DHF and E*thirteen TRSr rear as compound great as had left over from my YT capra pro race. Wheels holding up well spokes strong and haven't had to tighten a spoke yet. Front tyre pressure 24psi and 22psi rear with Stans Race sealant,
Nice set up! Sounds like you got it dialed.
Great info, never considered an Ebike before but if I rode that terrain all the time I would consider it.
You all need more subscribers, amazing video!! Thank you
Once the bike companies starts selling the e-bike frame only, I’ll jump in but I’m good with my custom Yeti SB 5.5.
You guys need to try the Mondraker Crafty Carbon RR SL, the Nox Hybrid Enduro 7.1 and the Lapierre Overvolt GLP 2 Team.
The production value of your videos is absolutely superb. Nice that you pop a little humour in too.
As far as Giant is concerned, I too was shocked by how much torque the Yamaha motor had. The downside is that Giant really haven’t got their designs right. The battery isn’t held in well enough, the electrics are too inconsistent (they’ve had a lot of problems with a lack of waterproofing) and when the motor is removed, there are so many wires in the way, that’s it’s ridiculously frustrating to refit the motor.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to seeing more of your videos. Really enjoyed this one. Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks for the input and watching a long Chris. Very glad to hear you enjoyed it. And yes, Giant has the ability to do so much more. We're hoping for some improvements in the future.
Giant is poor quality and needs a lot of work to be derestricted.
@@chriskros8858 derestricting is what gives e bikes a bad name. Guys going 60 kmh on bike paths isnt cool. France just passed a 30k euro fine for tampered bikes. Need to go fast? Get a supermoto.
@@scottpratico1315 You have wrong imagination about detestricting of e mtb.
First of all going 60 kph is simply impossible with mtb gearing optimised. In practice going 30-35 is possible in short periods.
Absolute max ca 40 kph but believe me nobody is able keep such speed to long and battery can be eaten very fast.
2nd limited e bike can be dangerous in many situations on the enduro track.
3rd derestrivying is not for going 60 between children as in the cars max speed 250 is not for going in the city. Have you seen limited car to 50 kph?
Think that restricted bike is limited going uphill only.
Going down 60 kph is possible for every bike. Race bikes go sometimes 100 kph and they are dangerous no good brakes no tyres no suspension as m MB.
4th such drastic law as you mentioned can be influence of very strong lobby. People should change these very stupid politics.
5th some E-bikes really are dangerous they have 5000W power and propertoies of motobikes but not E-MTB sold as the legal bikes 250 W even derestricted .
Detestricting such poor motor as 250W helps to keep speed due to gained kinetic energy so riding is more efficient.
Also helps for commuting on the street. Car drivers goin behind bike are more happy if they can not overtake on narrow roads when bike goes faster than 25.
And tell me why E bike owner who paid a lot of money for such machine cannot go faster than 25 kph (to heavy to go so fast without assistance) when on the same road legs powered bikes go 35 kph? Don't you think it is discrimination?
People do not listen too much politics They set law the lobbysts require not good for you.
The same is with cars and planes.
Cars make polution planes not.
W bikes bad thing because people do not commute by cars Don't you see they say one and make something opposite?
I tried a bunch and ended up with an Orbea too.
So glad I found this. Great review guys!
I once met a DIY ebike mountainbiker on henniger flats with a motobecane, he said it cost him less than $1000 that's the bike I want.
Amazing reviews guys! When making a purchase like an e-bike you really want to know what you're getting before spending that kind of money. Thanks to this, deciding on the YT was even easier.
One disappointment was why commencal didn't send the new meta power sx to test in this category?
You do excellent stuff. Keep it up!
Cool edit, totally enjoyed this.
"Fix your face" 😂
JC you try and keep a straight face and look at that goofy SOB! Haha
@@TheLoamWolf Hahaha too funny broh
I’d sure love to ride this bike!
Can I just say that this was a wonderfully produced and concise video? It’s miles above what I’ve seen from Pinkbike if I do say so myself.
Great video guys! Great to see such a big range. Good camera work too. Any thoughts on the Focus Sam2 ?
We sent a lot of emails out to Focus in hopes of getting one for the review...Our buddy Geoff rides for them and he seems to like it a lot. It looks cool, and may ride pretty well, but we don't know as of yet.
Great review! You guys are on it
Thanks so much Steven.
May I suggest, next time team up with michelin and put some E-Wild enduros on every bike or some Eddy current if you prefer another brand. That time you'll do something that no one have done before. You'll have your branded shootout. Good work guys! I like your channel by the way...and I just subscribe to your channel.
Hello Yan, thanks for subscribing. We actually did put Schwalbe Eddy Current's on every single bike.
This review and your channel...Its great work! And reliable as I keep on looking your other videos.👍
Great review video, Thx! Which motor would you pick as best?
Love this vid especially since you have most of the one's that I'm looking at! But could you not get a Scott Genius eRide? It's 150 on each end but not classified as an enduro bike. Btw... I'm really digging the 920 build over the higher priced builds from Scott. It has the new Bosch CX and the color is just freaking beautiful!! Totally not what you expect from what you see on their website!!
Thanks for watching and writing in. The 150mm and below bikes are going to be published on March 4th. If you visit theloamwolf.com you can see all the "contestants" in their glory and read our in-depth reviews. We figured nobody wanted to watch a 1 hour video...
Regarding Scott, we had a Genius last year and really like it a lot! However this year they did not want to take part in our group test so, sadly, we did not bring one to Palm Springs with us.
Thanks again
@@TheLoamWolf I'm looking forward to that video! I had a feeling they didn't get you one to test but that's ok it's their loss. 😉😂😂
@@bbarker5766 They had the 910 for a while. theloamwolf.com/2019/02/25/reviewscott-genius-eride-910/
Nice review, thanks. Im a little bit sad that the moustache Samedi Game isnt tested, too. But maybe they´re not into the american market, too?!... Im really looking foward to the Trailbike Test. Thumbs up ;)
Thank you Florian, We appreciate you writing in and watching the video. We do not have have any way to get Moustache bikes here. We tried to get as many bikes as we could. Hope you enjoy the Trail video tomorrow!
Great review, quick easy to follow, however reliability probably over rides everything else for that reason I'm going for the kona remote 160
Great video. I’ve pre-ordered a 2021 Wild FS largely on the strength of this review. I’m 5ft 11 & cannot choose between a L & XL. I’m worried about the short reach on the large, but don’t want an overly long bike for the tight trails I spend 90% of my time riding. What do you think? Demo rides are not available in my area currently.
Right on congrats! if you mostly spend time on tighter trails, we'd say go with the Large. It'll be a solid choice for all but the fastest, steepest and wide open terrain. We always say pick the best setup for the most common riding you do.
Great review ! videos ! good job, well done
Great vid, I just wish you had Vitus E-Sommet in it too.
I purchased the Giant Reign pro e
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Great Video; Thank you! I also like your 2020 Trail bike review. I have my eye on the Trek Rail (9.8 version). It seems like the Rail splits the middle between Trail/Enduro. How do you feel the Rail would have stacked up against the other Enduro bikes in your test?
Rail is def Enduro!
hey guys props to a great video but not sure how you can say the "suspension tune " is better on the 2020? its totally the same build as the 2019? maybe you just didn't tune the bike when you tested it in 2019. im not a hater just think its miss leading what you are saying.
Thanks for writing in and glad you enjoyed the video Sam. For what it's worth, this is the "official reply" from YT when we asked them about the changes, not only to the improved feel on trail. The motor differences were definitely the biggest improvement over the 2019 we rode.
Obviously, there is also the chance there was a QC issue from Fox and perhaps we had a bad shock, but per YT's reply, the 2020 has a different tune.
"...Rear shock tune codes are different as well.
2019; DTPD
2020; D2K9"
i totally agree with you Sam. Ps Sams bike videos Rock!!! How can Loan wolf first produce a vid with so many errors in the facts, then produce a second decoy video with corrections and still not rate it and then produce this vid saying that the bikes Awesome. Now I know it is awesome after watching Sams vids, however, i do feel that you are misleading viewers. May be too much nitrogen in the nito cold brew coffee is causing you to have the bends?
Thanks Adam... yea it all seems a little fishy to me, content is always king pretty videos are nice but correct facts are more important.
@@TheLoamWolf Motor difference? they are still using the same. motor ? I'm confused and this tune code is maybe just a few click of low speed rebound and compression? you guys do make great videos but it does make me think what else you are getting wrong I really know the decoy so I picked up on everything... 95% of the people are watching have not ridden the the bike so try and get it right.
Riiiiiiiders watch Sams bike videos. Miles better
12:35 what was tight? The corner? The cockpit? The suspension? Did it have too long a wheelbase? It cuts right into somebody talking about it being too soft or something about it being ...sprung...? Weird cut there. What do you guys mean?
Fucking awesome review. I feel like the Norco Sight VLT could have been in this category.
I thought my bike was entry level... until i saw this video😬😂
Everything is fantastic in this video! What music tracks were used in this video?
New drinking game - take a shot every time you hear the word "super"
I wish you had thrown in the Levo SL for good measure to see if that's the "future" or if traditional is the way to go.
Wait a couple more hours... New video dropping soon.
Murray's hair wax!!! 👍👍👍
Jody Wiebe haha. Trying to get Drew’s rockabilly dream sponsorship.
Do you think the Orbea Wild FS in an XL would have solved your issue with the reach? I've heard that the Large is really more of a medium. I'm 6 ft. and am deciding which eMTB to get. My two top contenders are the YT Decoy Elite and the Orbea Wild FS. But only based on specs and reviews. I've never even seen them in person or ridden them.
As a heavier rider (6ft 4in, 230lb) how did you guys find the Bosch CX 75nm motor for climbing? Does it do it OK or does it struggle? I have tried the Bros 90nm motor on the Specialized Levo which I liked a lot, but the Bosch motor is more common and allows for greater selection of bike manufacturers.
6:25 giant “getting up in price point” is BS. AXS + Fox factory. Also, you tested an XL. I have not ridden one in anger so can’t comment, but good to acknowledge these facts in your comments.
Great work guys, thanks for all the effort. Is there a reason the Merida e160 9000 or 10k wasnt in the tests? Thanks
We couldn't get one here. We tried to contact as many brands as possible. We didn't get in touch with anyone there bu some others that don't have much distribution in North America just felt it wasn't the best use of resources.
Kool vid. How about KTM next round? They did win the inaugural eMTB UCI XC.
We'd love to get one, and a Husqvarna to match our fE350 dirt bike. Sadly we don't get any responses from their website and it seems they aren't pressing much in North America.
@@TheLoamWolf I know right? When i read the race results I was like Team Who? Bike What? Those euros do their own thing when it comes to bikes. At any rate, that was the best bike shoot out of any kind Ive ever seen. Great work.
@@scottpratico1315 Thank you very much!
Great vídeo :)
Thank you very much Andre
Wicked review thanks guys .
Was the YT a mullet ? what was the wheel size .
How tall is the guy that said " this bike was made for me.
Hey Damien, Thanks a lot. It was the 2020 Mullet version. theloamwolf.com/2020/03/01/emtb-roundup-yt-decoy-pro-race-review/
Above is the full written review on the website.
That guy was 5'9 the rest of us are 5'11"- 6-foot
Awesome review guys just stuck on sizing for myself at the moment. Was the large frame the correct size for the guys who was 5”11 and 6foot? Im 5”11 myself and stuck between getting the large or xl but as in from the uk and can’t really try them out. Thanks
@@callumbird6882 We liked the Large quite a bit. Unless you like riding stretch limousines, the Large should be great.
The Loam Wolf thanks for the response guys
The Loam Wolf in the video you said the orbea had the shortest reach with 455? But the yt is 450? Sorry to be nit picking but im stuck between buying the two lol
What area are these trails in? It looks pretty cool.
Great video, for the orbea do you think maybe an xl with a shorter stem maybe better for a 6ft rider, these bikes come in mega small
If you are a fan of having a longer reach, then yes. Maybe even XL, short stem and a 10mm longer fork if you like to get rowdy.
Did you guy's try the Kenevo with a 29 up front,, curious how this may change that setup - better or worse?
Why no Rocky Mountain Powerplay?
Because it has 140mm of travel. This video is the Enduro (Part 1) video which is for bikes over 155mm of travel. Visit our website and watch Part 2 video, dropping today! The review on our site goes into great detail of the bike. We like it very much.
Rocky Instinct BC power play has 155mm rear travel
I heard a rumor you got a btr pinner is that going to be on the next category.... hope it wins because I have a deposit already lol
Haha... We do and the review is coming soon!
whats the difference with the 2020 decoy as in 2019, Loam wolf did not rate it, They also say that the 2020 bike is more nimble. the only thing thats changed is the drive train and removal of di2 shifiting
2020 has longer fork (170 vs. 160) which makes both HTA/STA half degree slacker, and different suspension tune.
Yes Matt, the longer fork has made some minor but notable differences on the trail, but the biggest changes we felt are the STEPS motor tune firmware updates and especially the new shock tune. It helps liven up the rear end greatly.
What trail were you riding? Would love to take my bike next time the wife drags me to the desert.
why dont test the Moterra SE and the Mondraker Level 2020 too?
Sad Rocky didn't join
Watch our other video. Part 2.
Schwalbe Eddy Current is the way!
*You left out Pivot. Why?*
yep, they're fun...but who can afford these prices ? spent $4500 on one 2 years ago and thought 'this price is insane'. it's fun, but c'mon
We don't disagree with you, it's crazy. But, these bikes are selling out year after year so...Apparently lots of people are?
Orbea??? Not good construction, the place for battery is small, the battery cover is thin!!!
the bikes weight would have been useful
Thanks we battled trying to include the most important but also bare minimum so as to prevent us making a 30minute video just yapping on and on. Which we easily could have done. Ha ha. If you visit theloamwolf.com, all the bikes have detailed reviews and the weights there.
Getting stuck on head angles is lame. It’s a package.
Norco?
2:11 I aspire to reach this level of lazy photography
Haha. It took him a lot of time to get that lazy.
Looking for a review of a trek rail, ?
Watch our other video, it has all the bikes with 150mm or less of rear wheel travel, which includes the Trek Rail.
No KTM or Haibike?
jak p no sorry. We have a Haibike in the Trail category. We tried but have no contacts at KTM or Husqvarna and it doesn’t appear they’re trying to make inroads for the North American market. We’d love to get them. March 4th our Trail video drops. Stay tuned.
The Loam Wolf I was thinking of Haibike in a more gnarly category. They make bikes that could be classified as downhill. Curious if it could really hold up to downhill use.
@@jakp8777 They certainly do. If you go to theloamwolf.com we actually reviewed their longer travel bike a few months back and addressed that! Go check it out. It may help.
No Trek
Check our Trail category video dropping today. That video will feature bikes with 150mm of rear wheel travel and less. The Trek Rail has 150, and if you're considering that bike, you should definitely go to our website to read the review.
Kenovo nr.1‼️
Damn missed the e in the emtb......
PSBeard haha. Whoooops!! Hope you weren’t effended.
The Loam Wolf not at all, just not what I am looking for lol!
@@PSBeard 👍
Nice video . Am a big fan of loam wolf hope I win the free bike😭🤧🤧
love u
"affordable price". 6, 499$ lol
Within the e-bike market, unfortunately, that price tag is actually classed as “affordable”. I know... it’s mental.
My used SUV cost 7k
greases hair, then puts helmet on....ewww lol
RAD
16:24 ...vaping is just silly.
The rest of the video was very informative.
We totally agree. And we give him shit daily...However it's better than what he used to smoke, so we'll take it.
Is every one rich? A 8000 jeep ,way better. What planet is this?
220+ lol more like 250
Do you feel better about yourself now?
Generation Lazy and their E-Mopeds that cost more than dirt bikes and are banned from single track here in N.C thank god!
Thanks for your input! Can't wait til the day you're on an e-moped and remember this conversation. We'll be smiling until then.