I Water Cooled My Air Cooler AND..........

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  • Опубліковано 15 бер 2019
  • Ever since I can remember, when it comes to CPU cooling there are two main options, water cooling or air cooling. That got me thinking, why cant you do both. I took my Hyper 212 EVO and set out to water cool it, I thought it would be cool But I had not idea it would work this well.
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  • @der8auer
    @der8auer 5 років тому +6514

    Pretty nice idea man :D Well done

    • @MajorHardware
      @MajorHardware  5 років тому +506

      THANK YOU, You Are A LEGEND my man.

    • @MistaketC
      @MistaketC 5 років тому +246

      legend der8auer approved 😱 great job 👍🏻

    • @JoseAlfonsoChavez
      @JoseAlfonsoChavez 5 років тому +142

      If der8auer likes it its because it is a very good idea! Awesome!

    • @pav9978
      @pav9978 5 років тому +33

      Nice Video, I have a Idea to improve it ! Bare with me, ja auch du Roman.
      It´s called spray cooling. Insted of beeing submerged you constantly spray a mist of water over it. The same way like a spraybottle for your windex does ( you could juse the nozzle). Continuosly, obious. How to. Take your case that you have and add to connections, one for the nozzle and one for the drainage. Idealy you would place the board in a case so that is upright. The cooler has to horizontaly installed, you spray water from above, collect the used water from underneath it, and done. you have increaced your cooling performance by a huge bit.
      Roman, solltest du das lesen, das könntest du auch mit dem Novec zeugs machen, führt so viel mehr Energie ab. Google Sprühkühlungen für Extrusionsanlangen.

    • @Mp57navy
      @Mp57navy 5 років тому +17

      Uff. Pretty redundant way to cool tho. It's about as useful as filling a walk-in freezer with smaller freezers and keeping their doors open.

  • @threelivesplay6447
    @threelivesplay6447 5 років тому +9131

    Q: So do you prefer Air Cooling or Water Cooling?
    A: Yes.

  • @zdvy
    @zdvy 4 роки тому +2861

    corsairs going to steal your idea and slap some RGB on it

    • @MajorHardware
      @MajorHardware  4 роки тому +236

      RGB Would be sweet

    • @MINECRAFTandSEB
      @MINECRAFTandSEB 4 роки тому +12

      hahahahhahahahahahhah

    • @ModMINI
      @ModMINI 4 роки тому +26

      @@MajorHardware Put the LEDs in the water. They should do it.

    • @lakshaytewatia6205
      @lakshaytewatia6205 4 роки тому +27

      Useless design, and technically it is reverse of Radiator with more disadvantage of no further dissipation of heat from the water. In radiator it is done by air cooling through Radiator FINS! it is good to be a Computer engineer, but implementing Mechanical to it requires knowledge.

    • @nekokarasu1087
      @nekokarasu1087 4 роки тому +79

      @@lakshaytewatia6205 U must be fun at parties.. 🙄

  • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
    @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 3 роки тому +219

    If your ever worried about water leaking, just turn the hole rig upside down.

  • @travishein
    @travishein 3 роки тому +293

    I guess the next logical step is to add an air cooler to cool the water reservoir.

    • @mikechu01
      @mikechu01 3 роки тому +25

      But you'll need a water cooler to cool that air cooler...

    • @aircoolbro21scndling49
      @aircoolbro21scndling49 2 роки тому +13

      @@mikechu01 next attach your entire ac to your pc cooling system

    • @HowToPCYT
      @HowToPCYT 2 роки тому +2

      @@aircoolbro21scndling49 even better! Remove the evaporator coil and replace it win a cpu colling block!

    • @bmw328igearhead
      @bmw328igearhead 2 роки тому +2

      The laws of thermodynamics giggle... :)

    • @unbekanntunbekant4587
      @unbekanntunbekant4587 2 роки тому +1

      Or to coil the Tube in a fridge 🤣

  • @numberyellow
    @numberyellow 4 роки тому +161

    In terms of goofy shit, this is Linus-League.
    Congrats...because this thing actually works, you have managed to out-Linus Linus.

    • @boheyo
      @boheyo 3 роки тому +2

      Didn't drop it either

    • @numberyellow
      @numberyellow 3 роки тому +1

      @@boheyo This is also a good point.

  • @Lucatin
    @Lucatin 5 років тому +1382

    Up next: I Blow Cool Air Through a Water Cooler.

    • @TefenCa
      @TefenCa 5 років тому +15

      HAHAHAHA

    • @trevorjaster4072
      @trevorjaster4072 5 років тому +2

      Lmao

    • @dapz
      @dapz 5 років тому +38

      After that: I blow cool air through a water cooled air cooler

    • @alexbakaloff
      @alexbakaloff 5 років тому +31

      that's how radiators kinda work tho :/

    • @Lucatin
      @Lucatin 5 років тому +9

      @@alexbakaloff
      I was thinking with no water involved. Kinda like how this "air cooler" has no air involved. I have no idea what that would be like or if it could even work at all. I was mostly joking.

  • @TheUndeadslayer221
    @TheUndeadslayer221 3 роки тому +604

    You: *Water cools your air cooler*
    *Linus would like to know your location.*

    • @RacingSlow
      @RacingSlow 3 роки тому +10

      Radiator water spraying has been a thing on cars for a while now!

    • @CryptoPaperRoute
      @CryptoPaperRoute 3 роки тому

      @@RacingSlow na nitrous is the way to cool er down lol

    • @berberger4814
      @berberger4814 3 роки тому

      linus did complete pc in oil, basically the same thing

    • @zaidahmed5464
      @zaidahmed5464 3 роки тому

      he got him on a techquickie video

    • @jonv.6213
      @jonv.6213 3 роки тому

      @@CryptoPaperRoute In WWII they just poured used wood gas to cool the engine before using said gas as fuel.
      Legit wood powered tanks.

  • @ProjectMysticApostolate
    @ProjectMysticApostolate 3 роки тому +34

    I want to see an updated more refined version of this. The kit looks badass. Proud of you bruh. 👍👍👍

  • @paininmydroid4526
    @paininmydroid4526 5 років тому +686

    If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

    • @MajorHardware
      @MajorHardware  5 років тому +35

      HAHA, This needs to be a shirt, If i had a merch store it would, maybe someday.

    • @slinq
      @slinq 5 років тому +2

      na man you brix it

    • @nixietubes
      @nixietubes 5 років тому +3

      @Major Hardware It is a shirt, ua-cam.com/video/ukqYB_hp6OI/v-deo.html

    • @MajorHardware
      @MajorHardware  5 років тому +6

      OOOOOOOH NICE that is awesome

    • @1967KID
      @1967KID 5 років тому

      Nice mod man.

  • @spragzpc1
    @spragzpc1 5 років тому +908

    Linus will be doing a update version soon as he sees this 🤣..but will always remember we seen it here first

    • @dr.brando8392
      @dr.brando8392 4 роки тому +1

      YUNVMY COOLNAME tru

    • @TheeCapN
      @TheeCapN 4 роки тому +2

      Ofc he is always needing content. He has the hand of the Chinese government so far up his ass.

    • @bigpat_4295
      @bigpat_4295 4 роки тому +10

      @@TheeCapN what does the Chinese government have to do with Linus (techtips?) ?

    • @EliDjahn
      @EliDjahn 4 роки тому +5

      @@bigpat_4295 His wife is chinese

    • @williambrown2135
      @williambrown2135 4 роки тому +14

      @@EliDjahn lmao thats like saying if some youtubers wife is originally from england that we all need to watch out, because "england has their hand up his ass"

  • @tamish3551
    @tamish3551 3 роки тому +45

    Major Hardware: If this video does well....
    1.8 million people: HMMMMMMMMM

  • @SeanQuinn4
    @SeanQuinn4 3 роки тому +42

    *applies epoxy to air cooler*
    Morgan Freeman: There's no going back now.

  • @RagnorBC
    @RagnorBC 5 років тому +119

    This is a fun experiment.
    A few notes to take into account for your next iteration:
    - make sure you have the heatsink fins vertical next time.
    - have your water entry at the bottom of your tank, ideally the opposite corner from the exit.
    Both of those changes will help mitigate stagnant water between the fins and therefor improve cooling even further.

    • @JorgeGonzalez-yt8sy
      @JorgeGonzalez-yt8sy 5 років тому +2

      instead of putting the water entry or exit at the bottom, you could just extend one of the top tubes downward from the top. also, as much as i agree with the vertical fins, that's a lot of weight/torque to be putting on the board since it's filled with water. putting an additional pump inside to move around water may be a nice compromise.

    • @samdavies1752
      @samdavies1752 5 років тому

      This would put a huge amount of stress on the socket, it's not designed to support that mass of water

    • @RagnorBC
      @RagnorBC 5 років тому

      @@samdavies1752 do the math.
      It's not a particularly large heatsink; there's larger and heavier ones on the market. Besides, a support bracket is easy to make.

    • @cryonim
      @cryonim 5 років тому +1

      1 more thing @major hardware you should note is that cold water is basically a poison for any system. The condensed vapor on the outside of the cooling body will drip into your motherboard and kill it.

    • @menno763
      @menno763 5 років тому +1

      @@cryonim As long as the water is above room temp u dont have condensation. and with the ammount of ice he is using that shouldnt be the case.

  • @kelpklepto
    @kelpklepto 5 років тому +590

    This feels like something Linus would have told one of his employees to attempt to build. Looking forward to more.

    • @chyrt
      @chyrt 5 років тому +42

      @Melanie L what makes you hate linus?

    • @BBuncky2
      @BBuncky2 5 років тому +32

      @@chyrt Don't feed the trolls.

    • @chyrt
      @chyrt 5 років тому +22

      @@BBuncky2 that sounds like pretty good advice

    • @thebluemarauder
      @thebluemarauder 5 років тому +16

      No joke, I wasn't paying attention to who this was from and clicked thinking it was a Linus video.

    • @jzn2
      @jzn2 5 років тому +3

      I am sure linus is smart enough to say no to ice in the reservoir.

  • @Doyle69
    @Doyle69 3 роки тому +106

    This should be tested again, but with cold fluid entering from the bottom and the warm water removed from top, this setup is having the cold sucked straight out.

    • @GLrecrds
      @GLrecrds 3 роки тому

      I thought about the same thing

    • @poisonduckee
      @poisonduckee 3 роки тому +10

      The input hose goes to the bottom and the output hose ends at the top. What it needs is input on one side and output on the other side so the cold water flows between the fins. The way it is currently the water between the fins would only move due to convection.

    • @jazzochannel
      @jazzochannel 2 роки тому

      will not matter in long run after the system is saturated with heat.

    • @slaveNo-4028
      @slaveNo-4028 2 роки тому +3

      also he should try a passive-style heatsink, with thicker gaps between the fins so the water can more effectively pass through the fins and to avoid those airbubbles.

  • @steveburke3
    @steveburke3 3 роки тому +3

    I had a huge smile on my face this whole video, such a great idea to play with! Thanks

  • @1asdf2jklasdf31
    @1asdf2jklasdf31 5 років тому +770

    Congratulations, you broke UA-cams algorithms.

    • @IljaSara
      @IljaSara 5 років тому +8

      This exactly. Gratz man. This is now if not viral then at least semi-viral.

    • @1asdf2jklasdf31
      @1asdf2jklasdf31 5 років тому +9

      @@IljaSara I think this is viral. 8 hours ago he had about 1000 followers.

    • @IljaSara
      @IljaSara 5 років тому +3

      Nice. Quite a leap. :)

    • @soragranda
      @soragranda 5 років тому +1

      I mean, is already broke XD.

    • @1asdf2jklasdf31
      @1asdf2jklasdf31 5 років тому +2

      @@soragranda that's a good point 🤔😁

  • @erickelizondo789
    @erickelizondo789 5 років тому +405

    Up Next: I water cool my water cooler for my air cooler

    • @arsh6082
      @arsh6082 5 років тому +23

      nah nah, LIQUID NITRGOEN cool my water cooler for my air cooler

    • @alabujoda
      @alabujoda 5 років тому +11

      Nah, I air cool my water cooler for my air cooler

    • @wrenchI05
      @wrenchI05 5 років тому +3

      Ice cool my water cooler for my air cooler

    • @Zeiss120
      @Zeiss120 5 років тому +3

      Xzibit, is that you?

    • @arti3973
      @arti3973 5 років тому +2

      this comment shows how dumb is to watercool the air cooler

  • @JacketCK
    @JacketCK 3 роки тому +64

    "there are only two options to cool your cpu"
    Liquid Nitrogen Set up: Am I a Joke to you?

    • @Root3264
      @Root3264 3 роки тому +4

      I would not call this cooling, but freezing, since it's the next level hahaha

    • @franktao8337
      @franktao8337 3 роки тому +8

      Dont forget that LTT mineral oil pc

    • @Merthis_Real
      @Merthis_Real 3 роки тому +2

      I mean, it is a liquid

    • @Fenrich2005
      @Fenrich2005 3 роки тому

      in the market yes, consider that liquid nitrogen is not used by everyone

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 3 роки тому

      @@Fenrich2005 but can be used by literally anyone. It's not particualry difficult to get into LN2 cooling

  • @Chevifier
    @Chevifier 3 роки тому +136

    Major Hardware: "lets water cool our air cooler"
    Linus a few years ago: Lets put the entire pc in a fridge🤣

    • @CypressConroy
      @CypressConroy 3 роки тому +1

      Why not a freezer

    • @bradysetters9434
      @bradysetters9434 3 роки тому

      Monkey D. Luffy I think it was a water cooled pc and if he did that the water in the tubes would freeze

    • @jeezuhskriste5759
      @jeezuhskriste5759 3 роки тому +1

      @@Loganvbills I’d still say 0* F should still freeze it, unless it’s going a fair bit faster than it really should be.

    • @carlpeters8690
      @carlpeters8690 3 роки тому +3

      @@Loganvbills True BUT you can find frozen waterfalls.

    • @sadmanh0
      @sadmanh0 3 роки тому +4

      @@CypressConroy the condensation in a freezer would short out the computer; he did use a compressor cooled PC though.

  • @rdyer8764
    @rdyer8764 5 років тому +169

    A very interesting idea, but here are a couple ideas on implementation.
    1) Try polycarbonate (Lexan) instead of acrylic. It's much easier to machine - it won't shatter when cutting, drilling or tapping threads, though it's a little harder to glue. You can use the same cement, but it takes more time and more cement to "weld" a really good joint. When I glue polycarbonate I go over every seam a second time after the first one has cured. This can also help prevent leaks, but since you're backing your seams up with silicone, you should be fine. If you use 1/4" you can even drill and tap holes and use #4 machine screws to hold everything together mechanically. Of course that's a lot of work that's not needed - just more fun! :))
    2) I doubt you're getting much flow through the fins. The water is going to take the path of least resistance, so it's way more likely to go around the fins than through them. Early in your video you mentioned the idea of adding a baffle to route the water. I think that's of supreme importance. If you did that I wouldn't think you would need any bigger or better air-cooler, in fact you could probably go smaller.
    Good luck with version 2!!

    • @welcometocattown2036
      @welcometocattown2036 5 років тому +11

      I agree with everything you wrote there. It also seems a good idea to add some form of stands to help carry the weight of the water and the block combined. It seems like a lot of weight on the cpu.

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 5 років тому +1

      Methylene Chloride is my bonder of choice, only need to do it once on the inside seem, if I really want to make sure I do the outside also.

    • @user-ni7gk5tg5j
      @user-ni7gk5tg5j 5 років тому +5

      Imo, you would also need some cooling for the water as well, as it gets hot really fast. Put an external rad down the route.

    • @omotolaoyeniyi631
      @omotolaoyeniyi631 5 років тому +2

      @@welcometocattown2036 not Necessarily, when the water around the fins heat up they move up and colder water will replace them, the fins will create their own flow with the convection current

    • @vctrsone
      @vctrsone 5 років тому

      We make the lightsaber tubes "blades" from polycarbonate tube. You can beat the heall out of each other with them and they will never break lol. Its good stuff.

  • @prepetually-exploding-mind
    @prepetually-exploding-mind 2 роки тому

    That is a fantastic idea. You have my head crunching how I could use some parts I have laying around!

  • @thomasrosebrough9062
    @thomasrosebrough9062 3 роки тому +13

    Good idea but you gotta think about water flow within the cooler tank. It easily bypasses most of the cooling fins.

  • @quiksilvr90
    @quiksilvr90 5 років тому +141

    In my best Rick voice: "That's just water cooling with extra steps"

    • @jttech44
      @jttech44 5 років тому +17

      It's actually not going to be better than air cooling because those heat pipes have a fixed capacity, so they can't move heat to the radiator past a certain point, which you'd likely be able to hit with just air cooling, no water required.
      There's a reason why water blocks all have direct contact with the CPU block instead of a heat pipe intermediary like this.

    • @MrJasontm2386
      @MrJasontm2386 4 роки тому +1

      Yea....without air well...yea just water cooled right?

    • @johnsapla7906
      @johnsapla7906 4 роки тому +1

      Wubba lubba dub dub

    • @rodrigovda
      @rodrigovda 4 роки тому

      @@jttech44 although I understand what you say, heat flux speed is directly proportional to the temperature difference, so cooling the radiator would improve the heat speed.
      Anyways, it's true that it won't probably be noticeably faster. It can be faster but it's likely to be just a marginal difference.

    • @jmccoy96jm
      @jmccoy96jm 4 роки тому +2

      Really when u think about. Water cooling is just air cooling with extra steps. Because your still gonna use a radiator with a fan on it. The only difference is the benefit of heat transfer to water instead of copper.

  • @timwhite1783
    @timwhite1783 4 роки тому +783

    Isn't this just water cooling with extra steps?

    • @DVSProductions
      @DVSProductions 4 роки тому +281

      A water cooler is just a air cooler with extra seps.

    • @JesusDiaz-om4vx
      @JesusDiaz-om4vx 4 роки тому +40

      this is CPU-air cooling interface and the water cooling is a cooper-CPU interface, so technically this is just what you say with extra steps...

    • @anonymouscoward7559
      @anonymouscoward7559 4 роки тому +8

      NO NO NO a bit,yes.

    • @Verticas
      @Verticas 4 роки тому +33

      Ah yes, inefficiency.

    • @user-yi9yw7tt4d
      @user-yi9yw7tt4d 4 роки тому +59

      The area contacting water is actually way much more larger than most of the water cooling system. So I think it's quite worth a try. I think it would be more efficient if the air bubbles are cleared entirely.

  • @MrDrewsky32
    @MrDrewsky32 3 роки тому +3

    This is essentially a more efficient water cooler that doesn't require fans. Great potential for saving a ton of space inside the case and cutting down on cable management. I can definitely see an excellent use for this concept. I'd love to see it refined!

  • @MrOkieChef
    @MrOkieChef 3 роки тому

    I worked on F-111’s in the Air Force in the early 70’s and part of the air conditioning system, which bled off engine exhaust for the source, had an air-to-water heat exchanger. Congrats for thinking outside the box.

  • @SeanfromSydney
    @SeanfromSydney 5 років тому +1458

    Congrats on getting picked up by the algorithm 😂

    • @MajorHardware
      @MajorHardware  5 років тому +83

      All hail the algorithm

    • @milanwoltgas
      @milanwoltgas 5 років тому +1

      @@MajorHardware l try this project you are genius first for all to you now that,l think what about to add ice in that reservoair,water be very very cold

    • @milanwoltgas
      @milanwoltgas 5 років тому +1

      @@MajorHardware and some led be nice water and led nice

    • @AkashdeepSingh-qq5fw
      @AkashdeepSingh-qq5fw 4 роки тому

      hey i have a question. Is this solution better than traditional liquid cooling?

    • @LordOfNihil
      @LordOfNihil 4 роки тому +2

      @@AkashdeepSingh-qq5fw nope, unless you keep adding ice the water will eventually get too hot to remove the heat efficiently, or boil. the heat has to go somewhere and a tank of water has its limits.

  • @melmagallon6233
    @melmagallon6233 5 років тому +108

    World's...
    Biggest...
    Waterblock

    • @bwcbiz
      @bwcbiz 5 років тому +2

      @Izan TechnoMaster True that. The heat exhanger surface on this thing is huge compared with commercial water-cooling systems, even allowing for air bubbles. Given the high specific heat of water, it's probably reaching the point where the limiting factor is on the pipes/pad facing the CPU. Well, except for the fact that he doesn't yet have a radiator or evaporative cooling on the reservoir side.

    • @gregwolking
      @gregwolking 5 років тому

      Izan TechnoMaster
      Exactly. Most of the coolant is going to flow around the fin stack rather then through it, taking the path of least resistance. On top of that, you'd better have some pretty solid strapping to the case to support the damned thing unless you plan to leave the case on its side. I can hear his motherboard cracking when he turns the case upright and fills it with water.
      Also, using ice water was a really dumb idea. He's lucky that acrylic is a pretty crappy conductor of heat, so the outside of the thing (apparently) never got cold enough to form condensation on the outside of the box or tubing. Either that, or the relative humidity was very, very low that day. ;)

  • @tallpaul9475
    @tallpaul9475 3 роки тому

    This is so COOL, very good demonstration, too.

  • @denesk2794
    @denesk2794 3 роки тому +112

    But ... this is actually a water heater. There is no radiator on the outside that would actually make the water cool.
    To fix this experiment: the in/out should be on the other (wider) sides. Also water shouldn't be able to travel where there are no fins. Then an external radiator to cool the water in the direction of the ambient temperature (or an active chiller) ...
    just my 2c .... as it is, it is as effective as the aquarium PCs in mineral oil.

    • @horstgunther9521
      @horstgunther9521 3 роки тому +1

      well i just wrote the same thing :D
      seems I would not have needed to do this.. :D
      I agree to your view^^

    • @pseudolemon8272
      @pseudolemon8272 3 роки тому +16

      the guy literally said that in the video. watch shit before you comment

    • @paniniman6524
      @paniniman6524 3 роки тому

      Theres ice in it so it should be fine

    • @denesk2794
      @denesk2794 3 роки тому +3

      @@paniniman6524 Sure :) keep filling your cooling system with ice while rendering/working/playing COD :) ...
      My point was that there was no external radiator, and that any flow will choose the least resistance. That being: not between the fins, but above/around it. Essentially just turning the experiment into an immersion heater with a circulation ...

    • @rdtiel
      @rdtiel 3 роки тому

      add a radiator and a fan and it basically becomes a makeshift aio

  • @ARCTIChannel
    @ARCTIChannel 5 років тому +909

    *_ARCTIC_*_ wants to know your location_

    • @dapz
      @dapz 5 років тому +63

      You gotta make this a product.

    • @psionx1
      @psionx1 5 років тому +21

      you better not be patent trolling for products you clearly don't sell yet.

    • @rrcreative1033
      @rrcreative1033 5 років тому +8

      Wow artic contacting u

    • @Lagggerengineering
      @Lagggerengineering 5 років тому +25

      F*cking hell, ARCTIC IS HERE?!?

    • @420f37
      @420f37 5 років тому +3

      lmfao

  • @zeguyy
    @zeguyy 3 роки тому +204

    When mom says we have aio’s at home

    • @hammyboigaming904
      @hammyboigaming904 3 роки тому

      Hey it’s the best made cpu block, guaranteed to give you the best heat transfer from cpu to water

  • @imperfect_cliche
    @imperfect_cliche Рік тому

    Pretty sure this was the first video i saw from this channel and it made me sub. Just came back onto my feed today and it was still extremely enjoyable and fascinating. Great stuff

  • @Tomyp89
    @Tomyp89 3 роки тому +7

    To put it in some numbers, the same volume of water has about 3000 times more thermal capacity as air.

  • @brennencox516
    @brennencox516 4 роки тому +154

    I'm 6:10 in... fluid dynamics will be your biggest problem in the end, even if it proves successful, providing a proper path for fluid to flow would make the setup much more successful.

    • @aperturescience2
      @aperturescience2 4 роки тому +37

      My thoughts exactly. A piece across the top to stop the fluid taking the shortest path would force it through the fins.

    • @Bill.Papadakis
      @Bill.Papadakis 4 роки тому +5

      @@aperturescience2 THANK YOU! im glad i was not the only one

    • @passingbyguy
      @passingbyguy 4 роки тому

      Change to the bigger flow water pump.. and make separate room so water can flow better through the heat transfer area..

    • @googlepleaseleavemealonean6198
      @googlepleaseleavemealonean6198 4 роки тому +11

      @@Bill.Papadakis Mick Lapworth He literally mentions this in the video kids

    • @trystonkincannon8320
      @trystonkincannon8320 4 роки тому +2

      Not only that, at the end of it all he puts ice in it, potentially destroying the experiment to begin whit. If you are going to be making a water air cooler, you need to do it at the heat sink not at the fins of the exhaust. it's just a water cooler.

  • @Biblogie
    @Biblogie 5 років тому +624

    Linus want to know your location

    • @walmartskills
      @walmartskills 5 років тому +1

      Linus is a jealous Apple hater and that's all he is...kid needs to get laid

    • @bubbleboy821
      @bubbleboy821 5 років тому +26

      @@walmartskills he doesn't hate apple, actually he used to have an iPhone not too long ago. He doesn't like some (a lot) of the things apple does

    • @walmartskills
      @walmartskills 5 років тому +3

      @@bubbleboy821 Lol everyone has to deal with the stuff apple does, he isn't special

    • @tajanatordroepik2018
      @tajanatordroepik2018 5 років тому +21

      @@walmartskills why you hating on linus he on his grind unlike you

    • @tajanatordroepik2018
      @tajanatordroepik2018 5 років тому +23

      @@walmartskills you an actual hater

  • @shawnjohannessen8480
    @shawnjohannessen8480 3 роки тому

    this is an awesome idea. loved the video. ill have to check out some other videos

  • @beaukuebodeaux8159
    @beaukuebodeaux8159 3 роки тому +1

    holy crap the king of diy reference. I havnt seen his vides in forever

  • @overclockeverything2310
    @overclockeverything2310 5 років тому +273

    For version 2.0, get some 90 degree fittings to force water through the fins.

    • @justinfontenot3930
      @justinfontenot3930 5 років тому +5

      @@jeffsadowski exactly what I was thinking and some baffles in it to to force it to go through the fins and not around the side of the fins for the least restricted flow

    • @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
      @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks 5 років тому +1

      @@jeffsadowski i would suggest a shroud for the inlet and the outlet directed at the fins that way it gets to all if not most of them.

    • @poppershnoz4536
      @poppershnoz4536 5 років тому +1

      YES! and put the input and output hoses on the sides for when the Mobo is mounted sideways in a Rig.

    • @ShortHandedNow
      @ShortHandedNow 5 років тому +1

      @@comadamptog6606 Exactly what I was thinking or just use Jeffs idea. Seriously cool video.

    • @timbersync
      @timbersync 5 років тому +13

      and add small fish for some next level decoration. RGB is so last year

  • @Geezimac
    @Geezimac 3 роки тому +653

    The algorithm just dropped this in my queue. Sweet. Now to see your playlist to see if you did an update!

  • @Loren1389
    @Loren1389 3 роки тому

    I like this a lot! Gonna try this for sure :)

  • @NastySasquatch
    @NastySasquatch 3 роки тому

    We used to do this before they even sold the cooling systems. What a great throwback video to 90s hackmodding.

  • @readysetnogo
    @readysetnogo 5 років тому +108

    For being a small channel, your videos have a very high level of polish and quality. Keep up the hard work, dude. Your channel has some serious potential to get huge!

  • @salihozturk2112
    @salihozturk2112 5 років тому +199

    H: What is your cpu cooling system ?
    M: Water cooled air cooler.

    • @Dazzxp
      @Dazzxp 4 роки тому +6

      Chilled water aircooler.

    • @sonicfon
      @sonicfon 4 роки тому +3

      Alcohol cooled fan cooler

    • @OzixiThrill
      @OzixiThrill 4 роки тому +6

      Technically, it's a water-cooled heatsink.

    • @trystonkincannon8320
      @trystonkincannon8320 4 роки тому

      It's just water cooling with extra steps, as it does not contain any fans at all.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 4 роки тому

      well if an air cooler manufacturer decides to do it the result will be better because the air cooler will be protected from corrosion unlike the corsair cooler which is not cause corsair never envisioned their cooler being exposed to a liquid coolant constantly in contant with the heat sink fins trying to cool them and corroding them over time

  • @technolucas3720
    @technolucas3720 3 роки тому

    I like your style bro! Great job!!

  • @TuskerGaming
    @TuskerGaming 3 роки тому

    I love how this video is 2 years old and ltt did this a couple weeks ago. way to be ahead of the curve

  • @awk6657
    @awk6657 5 років тому +430

    Cooler master wants to know your location

  • @PyromancerRift
    @PyromancerRift 5 років тому +82

    "My PC is WatAir cooled"

    • @gaurangpanchal957
      @gaurangpanchal957 5 років тому +1

      I would go for Wet-Air cooled

    • @KyzoFox
      @KyzoFox 5 років тому +1

      More like what air cooled

  • @no_one_gaming8184
    @no_one_gaming8184 3 роки тому

    That idea is damn nice we cannot worry about leak cuz if u placed well when leak happens but not damage the components ..nice job

  • @xivix6710
    @xivix6710 3 роки тому +1

    This actually blew my mind, great and creative ideas!
    Just a small feedback if you decide to rebuild it someday, I think it would be better to lower the input close to the base so the water have a longer path to exchange heat, also you could add briers in the bottom and top to force the water to go through the fins.
    Wish you all the best!

  • @pangeltveit
    @pangeltveit 5 років тому +223

    Nice idea, but atleast 2 flaws I can see.
    1. The Copper heatpipes are going to expand and retract, causing the seal on the bottom to wear out and cause a leak, eventually.
    2. the Copper in the heatpipes are going to react to the aluminum in the fins, causing corrosion.

    • @robertfield7532
      @robertfield7532 5 років тому +61

      Went down into the comments looking for someone talking about galvanic corrosion. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this huge issue.

    • @nellatf
      @nellatf 5 років тому +9

      Usually takes a while and there are additives to further slow it down

    • @tebasnineone
      @tebasnineone 5 років тому +23

      But, if we replace water with something like "mineral oil", is corrosion still a concern?

    • @keltondavis4559
      @keltondavis4559 5 років тому +9

      Man none of y'all have ever taken a chemistry class

    • @PiPArtemis
      @PiPArtemis 5 років тому +9

      @@tebasnineone in theory that would alleviate (but likely not solve) the issue as it comes with its own set of problems. Mineral oil spreads like a mofo making a huge mess if a spill or leak occurs, it also has a high capacitance for heat making it harder to exhaust the heat it will absorb from the block. Anti-corrosive additives and keeping an eye on the block is a better solution imo

  • @tobiasmills9647
    @tobiasmills9647 4 роки тому +31

    When I was at school, i was always taught to use masking tape when cutting acrylic. It prevents splitting and the acrylic melting back together.

  • @jscudderz
    @jscudderz 3 роки тому +69

    This is just what a waterblock already is.

    • @Merthis_Real
      @Merthis_Real 3 роки тому +4

      Actually no
      The radiator is made to cool the liquid, while in this he was cooling the radiator

    • @sekishira
      @sekishira 3 роки тому +2

      @@Merthis_Real actually he said waterblock

    • @Merthis_Real
      @Merthis_Real 3 роки тому

      @@sekishira yeah i see my shit now. it was 3am here tho

    • @MastaSquidge
      @MastaSquidge 3 роки тому

      Except with much less surface area involved.
      And that's kind of the most important aspect.

  • @alfaulfur1174
    @alfaulfur1174 2 роки тому

    These days I was researching which cooler to buy for a Ryzen 5950x, and yesterday I imagined a tower cooler submerged in water hahaha just like yours. The most curious thing is that I didn't even have time to look for it and UA-cam made me see your video hahaha.

  • @robertocabiddu6008
    @robertocabiddu6008 3 роки тому +640

    Kids: use air cooler
    Men: use water cooler
    Legends: use water cooled air coolers
    Gods: use air cooled water cooled air coolers

    • @FirstNameLastName-bm6zc
      @FirstNameLastName-bm6zc 3 роки тому +104

      Technically water coolers are air cooled

    • @frisk7674
      @frisk7674 3 роки тому +5

      Yea xD every piece of the heatsink separated and water cooled

    • @shuttlemp
      @shuttlemp 3 роки тому +5

      then there’s me with thermal cooling

    • @alejandrorojas0
      @alejandrorojas0 3 роки тому +8

      Me an intellectual: use liquid nitrogen

    • @gvnady8380
      @gvnady8380 3 роки тому +2

      Urban Legend: use water cooled air con

  • @Skaret98
    @Skaret98 5 років тому +46

    Wait but that's just watercooling with extra steps.

    • @thebcbane
      @thebcbane 5 років тому

      Skaret98 that's a deep cut. I approve 👍

    • @kadajawi6567
      @kadajawi6567 5 років тому +3

      Yeah but I'd imagine that much bigger heat exchanger is going to help quite a bit compared to the ones that are usually used.

    • @rawdez_
      @rawdez_ 5 років тому +1

      @@kadajawi6567 removing heat directly from copper that contacts directly a CPU heatspreader vs. removing it from fins that remove heat from heatpipes?
      yeah, definitely more efficient. guys! we have some geniuses around here!
      * sarcasm mode off *

    • @kadajawi6567
      @kadajawi6567 5 років тому

      @@rawdez_ That would be worth testing. The contact surface in a regular water block is relatively small.
      I'd be interested in seeing a video that tries to emulate this test, with everything but the water block the same. It could go either way, but I would not be surprised if the increase in contact area makes a difference.

    • @digitalis2977
      @digitalis2977 5 років тому

      @@kadajawi6567 It doesn't.
      The lion's share of the heat is sinking from the copper pipes long before it reaches the aluminum fins...because thermodynamics.

  • @maverickstclare3756
    @maverickstclare3756 3 роки тому +17

    At the end of the leak test my head went to "thermal expansion"
    I think I might have made it so the motherboard was on top so if it leaks your get a wet floor and not a wet computer

  • @nokturnali
    @nokturnali 3 роки тому

    This is genius and extremely creative man! You've just earned another sub!

  • @Diamonddogusa
    @Diamonddogusa 5 років тому +285

    Water that cold I'd be worrying about it sweating.

    • @sed8181
      @sed8181 5 років тому +12

      Are you sweating bullets worrying about it sweating?

    • @rendryn7141
      @rendryn7141 5 років тому +71

      Condensation?

    • @HerroYuy246
      @HerroYuy246 5 років тому +5

      Diamonddogusa yep going sub ambient isn’t a good idea for condensation.

    • @dhruvjat8150
      @dhruvjat8150 5 років тому +4

      Do you mean condensation?

    • @Diamonddogusa
      @Diamonddogusa 5 років тому +8

      @@dhruvjat8150 yes, condensation. Like on a glass of ice tea on a warm Georgia afternoon.

  • @tsnoack
    @tsnoack 4 роки тому +27

    inverting the whole assembly would've prevented water from damaging any components and would've given you a better idea how big a leak was if one developed

  • @silentadvisor
    @silentadvisor 3 роки тому

    Instant like for the idea! Love it! ;)

  • @iresolvers
    @iresolvers 3 роки тому

    I had this same idea when I first saw those fish tank pc's filled with mineral oil back in the day, great job man

  • @satamototo
    @satamototo 5 років тому +34

    Second radiator to chill the water out, larger pump and tighten the walls to force the water to go through 212 evo fins.

    • @wesleyevans9340
      @wesleyevans9340 5 років тому +6

      Stamo Hristov was hoping someone would have said this. Should work better by absolutely forcing the water through the fins

    • @user-zq6pj5jo8j
      @user-zq6pj5jo8j 5 років тому +2

      and have the the blow and the suck on opposite sides of the heatsink and not at the top

    • @daftbence
      @daftbence 5 років тому

      Yeh, those air pockets really held this back, maybe side fittings would be the way to go, and air must be removed between the fins.

  • @thelegend8570
    @thelegend8570 5 років тому +205

    14:19 Don't worry about checking for leaks, if there are any, you'l know.

    • @nicolas.leger3
      @nicolas.leger3 5 років тому

      The legend 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @SocialSpit
      @SocialSpit 5 років тому

      I’ve had that exact cooler for about 12 years, I have always worried about that happening, it hasn’t, yet!

    • @NZPortal1
      @NZPortal1 5 років тому +1

      @@SocialSpit You're checking for leaks on an heat-sink?

  • @OsOkod
    @OsOkod 3 роки тому

    just got your video to watch today, really nice work man i really like that idea. And i just wanna say if this make it to a good way of yousing "'bigger" Aircooler with yeah watch looks like a water
    coffin makes it so much more interessting.
    Just think about a way of doing in a serialproduction for a ITX coolers that whould be awesome

  • @cmcas
    @cmcas 3 роки тому

    This is called a radiator. You *still need to remove* the heat from the fluid at some point in the system or you'll end up with a bucket of hot water after a couple of hours. By adding ice you've increased the thermal capacity of the system (good), which translates to a refrigerator cooled CPU. If you loop the water into your fridge then you'll have a huge and continuous heat removal system for your CPU. And then the *compressor* inside your fridge will be doing the work. See where I'm going? Heat -> Work. Work has to be done at some point.
    In any case I congratulate you for your ingenuity and creativity. These things make me smile.

  • @Tomytoka
    @Tomytoka 4 роки тому +311

    the idea is really cool but i think it is really ineficient, the water isn't flowing through the vents (you can see that because of the air still between each layer) . i think you should put the input and the output horizontally and make the box of the size of the heatsink so the water only pases through the vents. i am not an engineer so if someone know much more than me please correct me i just really like this idea and want to see an improved version.

    • @M3NBu
      @M3NBu 4 роки тому +60

      yeah that is better but something really important is making the input at the bottom and the output at the top because hot water tends to go upwards and cold water goes downwards at this state it makes perfect circulation

    • @S3thc0n
      @S3thc0n 3 роки тому +51

      @@M3NBu the low strength of convection makes it essentially irrelevant if you're actively moving the fluid

    • @jessecooper4361
      @jessecooper4361 3 роки тому +9

      it's a good thought Tomy but you have to remember the fins are there to pull heat off the heat pipes. as long as there is moving water going on and around the heat pipes it will take the heat away faster then it could go to the fins as water has a higher transfer rating for heat than aluminum, and to the point where he could probably remove the fin stack keep the pipes and get close to the same results maybe 3-4 c higher in the worse case.

    • @joshfoley8862
      @joshfoley8862 3 роки тому +10

      That's correct. That is the idea behind an efficient air to water intercooler used on engines. All the water passes through the cooling fins and none pass around the sides.

    • @Timeward76
      @Timeward76 3 роки тому

      @@M3NBu continuing from another reply, we cant account for all positions someone may put the block in so might as well not account for convection.

  • @joeyrosenbaum6893
    @joeyrosenbaum6893 5 років тому +117

    Next I would recommend making the acrylic box smaller to force more of the water through the fin stack

    • @MrGimli2
      @MrGimli2 5 років тому +3

      Keep going smaller andddd you end up with an AIO.

    • @TheXaphs
      @TheXaphs 5 років тому +3

      fluid dynamics dont work this way

    • @majorjockitch
      @majorjockitch 5 років тому +4

      Without size constraints , mass can compensate for flow , it would be interesting to compare. But like a water block , forcing the water to flow where you want it has the most immediate effect.

    • @plasmar1
      @plasmar1 5 років тому +1

      I think the limitation will be relating to the way that evaporative cooling works as that's the thing transferring the temperature differences; I'm not quite sure how it will effect things but it should be interesting.... a guess is it will set a limit to how cold it can get since if the content of the pipes remain in liquid form it'll be relying on the metal to transfer temps and not evaporation of the liquid in the pipes; we'll see.... pretty cool either way:D

    • @79Zhyr
      @79Zhyr 5 років тому

      and to reduce the huge amount of weight from the block and water

  • @louisangelodorosan9241
    @louisangelodorosan9241 3 роки тому +1

    checkmate! water cooling ends with air cooling, you are re-reinventing the way!

  • @gregorychurch605
    @gregorychurch605 2 роки тому

    With the amount of times I heard "no leaks" I thought this was a flex tape commercial. Anyway nice idea I love it.

  • @Reason_over_Dogma
    @Reason_over_Dogma 5 років тому +24

    I'm glad this was in my recommend. Nice video!

  • @morgankane1643
    @morgankane1643 5 років тому +32

    When LTT says "It depends", majorhardware says "Hold my dew"

  • @UselessHumanBeing
    @UselessHumanBeing Рік тому +1

    I like the candle in the background 😌

  • @forrestgumpv9049
    @forrestgumpv9049 3 роки тому

    You hit a home run with that idea. It simply cannot be cooled better, except with a Freon system.

  • @blackops3622
    @blackops3622 5 років тому +262

    You should do this again and use mineral oil instead of water and leave the fan on the heat sink. Like this so he can see it 😉👌🏻

    • @danieljimenez1989
      @danieljimenez1989 5 років тому +25

      Agreed completely. Water will stain the copper quickly. The fan doesn't even have to run at full load, one just needs to move the liquid through the fins.

    • @shodancat1000
      @shodancat1000 5 років тому +1

      Dude, that's an awesome idea. I want to see this!

    • @TheZerok666
      @TheZerok666 5 років тому +1

      it's gonna be tough to figure out a good way of having the fan cable connect to the board while it's in the tank

    • @szgege32
      @szgege32 5 років тому

      @@TheZerok666 using cable gland? :D

    • @user-en6vi7qy6h
      @user-en6vi7qy6h 5 років тому +3

      @@TheZerok666 there is no water on top of the cooler, thus you can make there a hole and glue the cable with silicon, thus no water can come out of there.

  • @SuperCookieGaming_
    @SuperCookieGaming_ 5 років тому +31

    now this is how you get around the asetek patent

  • @justsomeperson5110
    @justsomeperson5110 3 роки тому +1

    LOL I love it! I think if I ever build a custom watercooled setup I'll definitely keep this in mind. I like the idea of using this as the reservoir. Obviously, for both space reasons and flow reasons I'd move the tubes to the top and bottom instead of the front so that it fits in a case and moves the water directly between the cooler's fins, using extra acrylic for creating a channel system to more evenly distribute the water flow through the cooler. Of course, add RGB lighting. And add a temperature probe to plug into the mobo. (Or to be really "cool", a temp screen to the front.)

  • @juney4407
    @juney4407 3 роки тому

    frekin awesome.... lol love your vids man..

  • @o.mizaellima
    @o.mizaellima 5 років тому +41

    Just a comment to help you with the UA-cam algorithm. Nice work. God bless you.

  • @iThoughtUHad2Bitch
    @iThoughtUHad2Bitch 4 роки тому +78

    One time, I water cooled the water inside my water cooler that was water cooling my water cooled cooler. The results were rather watered down.

    • @TyrantTigrex
      @TyrantTigrex 3 роки тому +3

      I wanna like this comment
      but it's at 69 likes and i don't want to ruin it

    • @Mcawwacm
      @Mcawwacm 3 роки тому

      @@TyrantTigrex same

  • @projectchannel8435
    @projectchannel8435 3 роки тому +3

    friend: So are you doing air or water cooling?
    Major Hardware: YES

  • @manfredschultz9619
    @manfredschultz9619 3 роки тому +10

    “I converted my Air Cooler into a Water Cooler” ;)

  • @6104chrisn
    @6104chrisn 5 років тому +244

    It's still a water cooled CPU you just made an enormous water block.

    • @onearthonelegion
      @onearthonelegion 5 років тому +58

      It is still air cooling, since liquid is just used to carry the heat to another place where its cooled by air. Basically there is only air cooling and air cooling with liquid.

    • @kfossa344
      @kfossa344 5 років тому +11

      onearthonelegion 🤦‍♂️

    • @timisprenger446
      @timisprenger446 5 років тому +1

      @@onearthonelegion right

    • @zachandowen8205
      @zachandowen8205 5 років тому +2

      Im looking for the fan....

    • @timisprenger446
      @timisprenger446 5 років тому +1

      @@zachandowen8205 thats only a test-rig. if you want to let it run longer you have to cool the water down. with a radiator and fan's on it. 😜

  • @olymak
    @olymak 5 років тому +11

    patent the "thing" :)
    great idea, thank you for posting, keep them coming

  • @MrThorp1
    @MrThorp1 Рік тому

    you have come a long way dude!

  • @michael.demello12
    @michael.demello12 3 роки тому

    Love to see this fully done and a second video on it

  • @kimkardashiankardashiankim2018
    @kimkardashiankardashiankim2018 5 років тому +57

    If he lowered the pipe that is sucking the water almost to the the bottom he could avoid the skeeting problem

    • @mikeo9863
      @mikeo9863 5 років тому +8

      My first thought too, and I'd drop a bit of dye in at some point to see the flow over the fins as I suspect there isn't much. I suspect the limiting factor though should be how good the heat conductivity is from the cpu to the heatsink, not how the water takes it away.

    • @paschalx
      @paschalx 5 років тому +1

      How to do CPU heat conductivity measurements? Is it DIY-friendly?

    • @vaningersoll5782
      @vaningersoll5782 5 років тому

      @@paschalx Yea just test the temps on your cpu xd

    • @Ryarios
      @Ryarios 5 років тому +7

      I would put the cold water supply on the bottom in one corner and the hot water return in the upper, opposite corner - based on the orientation the MB will be sitting in IRL...

    • @GremlinSciences
      @GremlinSciences 5 років тому

      Or just flow the water through from one side to the other without worrying about verticality. Water is always going to take the path of least resistance, so it's always going to want to go around the heat sink instead of through it unless you make that the shortest and least obstructed path.
      Of course, if you perfectly fit the tank to the heat sink you can _force_ the water through from any orientation. In that situation you would want the intake and output in opposite vertices with the system being fed from the top.
      I think OP was referring to how the out would occasionally pull in air instead of water though. That's actually because he's using the pump to pull the heated water out instead of push the cool water in, the water level won't rise any higher than that pipe. There isn't much that can be done about that unless he completely eliminates all air from the system, reversing the flow would also fix the problem but would hurt efficiency.

  • @jakubkraus4788
    @jakubkraus4788 5 років тому +88

    So it's basically an over-engineered cpu block?

    • @lorzon
      @lorzon 5 років тому +1

      No, a standard CPU block has a fraction of the surface area this has to transfer heat away.

    • @obvious_humor
      @obvious_humor 5 років тому +15

      lorzon
      So it's basically an over-engineered cpu block. ;)

    • @pulver117
      @pulver117 5 років тому +4

      @@lorzon No, a standard cpu block has the same surface area as this cpu block. This isn't increasing the contact area with the block to the cpu, this is encasing a fanless radiator with the water rather than passing it through the radiator itself, but with this setup you'd still need another radiator with fans to pass the heat from the water to the air for extended uses (or some other means of cooling the water stored in the reservoir.

    • @danmerillat
      @danmerillat 5 років тому +1

      ​@@lorzon If he slapped a normal waterblock in this setup (the jug of iced water and pump) he'd have the same results because the thermal conductivity of water is more than enough to get the heat away from the chip. What this doesn't solve is cooling the water.

    • @antoniestrydom6367
      @antoniestrydom6367 5 років тому +1

      @@pulver117 I hear $1000 chillers work good to overclock CPUs

  • @bmw328igearhead
    @bmw328igearhead 2 роки тому

    That's a mighty fine ice melter you made there son...

  • @linkorotop
    @linkorotop 3 роки тому

    Damn that is very cool 10/10 DIY multicooler

  • @fox25630
    @fox25630 5 років тому +5

    can't wait 4 hi end version of this ..... keep up the good work

  • @djfrostbyte13
    @djfrostbyte13 5 років тому +6

    This was actually a lot more entertaining than I thought it would be. Very interesting concept and good execution on your idea. As someone who has attempted to work with acrylic, I know how challenging it can be. Kudos for your solid work here! This is definitely not a sustainable solution as it stands but a very interesting concept that deserves further investigation. Keep it up! And you earned a sub!

  • @oblivious.clairvoyant5284
    @oblivious.clairvoyant5284 3 роки тому

    Yeah man cool stuff great custom work

  • @rohitsahani3406
    @rohitsahani3406 2 місяці тому

    That's exatctly what i was looking for a small heat sink😁👌

  • @Hon2838
    @Hon2838 5 років тому +228

    Congrats bro,your video has been shared by PC gamer in their new article

    • @MajorHardware
      @MajorHardware  5 років тому +16

      That's actually awesome!!!!

    • @steamedauroraborealis8208
      @steamedauroraborealis8208 5 років тому +7

      @@MajorHardware That's a lie. If it's not about fortnite, it's not from PC Gamer.

    • @MajorHardware
      @MajorHardware  5 років тому +11

      APEX....................
      Does that help?

    • @KokoroKatsura
      @KokoroKatsura 5 років тому

      i got killed by dizzy on apex legends recently

  • @austinwallace8570
    @austinwallace8570 5 років тому +34

    This is probably the most original content I’ve seen on UA-cam in a while. Which is rare now a days. Great job

  • @CarthagoMike
    @CarthagoMike 3 роки тому +1

    Pretty neat idea.

  • @harleynog
    @harleynog 3 роки тому +2

    Good concept dude, little tip with sealing leaks once the tank is 'sealed' hook it up to a vacuum then apply extra epoxy/silicon to your weak areas to allow the vacuum to draw the sealant into the gaps youl get a much more reliable seal and also if your vacuum is good enough youl create a cap internally :)