problem is: as nick said, itachi doesn't have big chakra reserves to the level of Madara because he and Sasuke are the reincarnation of a literal alien (kinda unfair isn't it). But I do think he would have scaled to Kakashi DMS
The idea of Itachi dying, because he basically used all of his lifeforce "for" his girlfriend, while protecting his village is pretty wonderful. He basically didnt ever live for himself and made the ultimate sacrifice and very many levels.
The plot of Naruto would have been so much shorter if Obito wasn't embarrassed to ask Itachi to Tsukuyomi in existence a tumbler post about Obito and Rin
Totally agree with all of this, including your explanation for why Itachi would never be a sage, but please consider how utterly badass the idea of Crow Sage Itachi would be.
I also think Itachi strength wise falls right about where you placed him, but his battle IQ (which is just downright absurd, lowkey immeasurable) would allow him to punch far above his weight. Not enough, in most cases, to take out those that are far beyond him in power, but enough that he would likely be a huge assisting factor in dealing w any major battle. I'd say he'd even be a factor in otsutsuki battles. not as a combatant mind you, but in formulating a strategy on the fly. That's probably his wildest hack as a character that isn't really scalable. He's just unmatched in understanding the situation, being keenly aware of the tools available for both sides, and then working out the optimal approach. all on the fly, and to an extent we don't really see others capable of. at least not as effortlessly as he seems to do it.
Did a 13 year old Itachi even knew how to do it, did he felt anything in real life, so technically he lost his virginity in genjutsu and based on Nick’s theory, it means his body should have lived through all of this, omg I have so many questions 😅
21:35 “The shock of being snapped out of the genjutsu might be enough to kill you” This backs up the theory that Obito took Fugaku’s eyes. Exhibit B: Yagura
Because you know what ever he looking at he really looking at it, and you trust in his word because he has actual knowledge on what he's talking about. With receipts and logic out the ass
@@AhmedHussain-ju6xdyou’ve taken to the task of numbering each one of their comments. So, I’m gonna start liking every one of yours that I see because I’m also tired of seeing the comment section be this dude word vomit.
A full body, perfect Susanoo with the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade would be kinda dummy OP. If Itachi had awakened the EMS by taking Sasuke's eyes then I actually think he could have awakened the Rinnegan (even not being Indra's reincarnation), as if he implanted something like Hashirama Cells then Ashura's Chakra would be able to react with Sasuke's eyes, as they still would have both Sasuke's and Indra's Chakra in them. It might take a near death experience for that to happen though, as both Sasuke and Madara had to be on the verge of death to awaken the Rinnegan. Also I think it's entirely reasonable to think that healthy Itachi *could* have become a Sage considering that he knew what Ryuchi Cave was, so assuming that he would be able to withstand the training then he could have just gone to Ryuchi Cave himself and learned how to control Nature Energy from the White Snake Sage without needing someone like Orochimaru to train him. The fact that he researched Ryuchi Cave at all might suggest that, in canon, Itachi actually once might have wanted to become a Sage, but ultimately didn't because his body began to fail him and he became too sick.
Awaking rinnegan is limited to indra incarnation. If itachi took ms of sasuke and implant in his eye and then if he get hahsirama cell then he wont be able to awaken rinnegan because the moment itachi gonna implant ms of sasuke, sasuke's chakra would get mixed with itachi's chakra which will make it itachi's own chakra.
If a shinobi dont have high chakra Reserve then he wont be able to become a sage. Itachi's sickness only affect him when he take a long battle or he have to use too much of his chakra, in short battle his sickness doesnt disturb him that much
@@abdullahkurashi2135 not true it was a cripplingy chakra illness eating away at his chakra reserves or his life force it was Quite literally killing him without said illness would have greatly impacted itachi
Itachi's biggest strength, which is never talked about, isn't what we have seen. Itachi's biggest strength is the unknowing, the mystery of what Itachi will do next and how he will solve the problem at hand, that is what makes him considerably fearsome. It seems that Itachi always knows how to take down his opponent, even if it means pulling out tricks we never would have imagined.
@@ACagedBird364 Yeah pretty much! Like maybe the chakra sickness is an extra effect no one knew about. Or maybe there is a group of secret Aburame or there that's trying to keep things balanced so whenever anyone gets a little too strong, they send out bugs to poison a person slowly over time and that's how Naruto got the sickness too. They were just able to find a cure for him though. (I know it's a pretty silly idea I just want the Aburame to be bigger in the naruverse)
Bc why he should waste MS on someone when he can just do with 3 tomeo like to orochimaru he did paraylsis genjutsu he just want flex tstukyomi in front of Sharingan users to show them true power of sharingan
Healthy EMS Itachi would scale roughly to EMS Madara. The super dumbed down argument would be as follows; Sick MS Itachi ~ Minato ~ Tobirama ~> Izuna ~ MS Madara Then presume EMS amp is roughly on par between characters, Not being sick amps Itachi further, and lastly Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror make up any power differential.
Itachi’s true power and advantage over other ninjas is his intelligence. Nick, you should include that when discussing Itachi, but overall awesome take!
Is it possible that you can talk about konan in this new video series, no particular reason i just want to hear more about konan, her jutsu is cool what can i say.
Often these discussions are determining strength via straight power. Itachi's "strength" was never that he could straight up Stat-check anyone he fought, but that he is extremely strong, AND his battle IQ\coordination was next level. Definitely a harder thing to measure, but I figure the only shinobi that could outwit Itachi would be Shikamaru, who gets stat checked handily. Does that make him the "strongest"... Nope. But it does mean he will win fights in which he is outgunned, which imo is more important.
12:19 Kind of It is hahahaha, I know they are not, but kind of can happened, and the Prove for this is that it took almost 1000 years to Madara vs Hashirama, and we do not see any other versions of this, except to Naruto and Sasuke, this means that this "1000 years war" , did not had their leaders for most of the time OR that for some time one or the other were alive, this means that both been alive at the same time is a rare thing.
Mifune the leader of the Samuri might of been the strongest one to ever exist and he was capable of fighting Hanzo both in the past and in the War Arc. Impressive i guess he was probably around Sanin level
Ahh my favorite naruto encyclopedia, goat of the naruto fandom imo and i hope someday it pays off he definitely deserves to be apart of the show in some way
I want to see a compressed Susano’o. Now you have all that chakra compressed, making it an even greater defense, and since the chakra is closer it’s easier to control making it faster as well. It’d be like Naruto’s KCM
I've been writing. Itachi is one of the strongest and smartest in the show. He literally had the mind of a hokage at like 8 if he was privy of awakening the rinnegan or if he did. He never would stoop that low. He is the truest leaf Shinobi ever born.
With the Uchiha powers being unlocked from strong emotions, often uncontrollable emotions could they undergo sage training? Or would it nerf their clan power gaining that much control over themselves? The only way we've seen an Uchiha gain sage/nature energy so far is from unnatural means.
Might sound dark, but I would love to see the Massacre animated fully. All these battles and what he actually experienced that night prior to striking down his parents.
To add to the totsuki bead theory, itachi is probably the most talented user of shuriken ever to the point as a child scaring orochimaru into thinking he was going to kill himself
Dude episode 128 of original naruto, in the beginning when Naruto yells Sasuke! Sasuke hears naruto as an echo and it irritates him, the last battle between them, Sasuke yells at Naruto and says he's tired of him..... Kishomoto is crazy at story telling and going back. Sorry not related to the video but big fan
Sheno would actually be awesome especially considering arc like the sasuke retrieval arc would have been little to no difficulty if he was part of the group lol.
Speaking of shisui I’m surprised nick didnt posit what if Itachi used Shisui’s eye that he was give to make one of his EMS then on top of tsukyomi he would also have kotoamatsukami or perhaps even a fusion of the 2 given the MS abilities can evolve when the ems is unlocked
@cfakatsuki17 Everyone gains 2 MS abilities as long as they have 2 eyes, obito awakens 2 forms of kamui ( 1 in his eye and other in kakashi's), itachi awakens tsukuyomi and amaterasu (itachi had 2 abilities and never gained the EMS), sasuke awakens amaterasu and kurotsuchi. Gaining the EMS just makes you stronger and unlocks stronger forms of the susanoo
@cfakatsuki17 sasuke didn't get kurotsuchi from itachi's eyes, considering itachi himself didn't have kurotsuchi, every single character with the ms awakened two ms abilities so why would sasuke be different. Ignoring sasuke's matter, itachi wouldn't have gained another ability if he gained EMS so your argument is moot anyway
You know my head cannon has always been that itachi had a well thought pair of ms abilities suppose to be used as a combo to one shot foes. Eg immobilise them with tsykoumi then burn them with amaterasu. It's a well though move pool.
My theory is that his genjutsu takes portions of his life every time he uses it. Hence why he never does the 60 year one again and only makes his genjutsus last for a few days. I'm probably wrong but I thinks its a decent theory
@@GR4FF1T1 no disrespect experienced bro. You just happened to be ahead, clearly you're on to something because NChammer thought the same. good for you bud! have a nice day :)
15:00 I just want to point out that, despite them saying all that about the Yata Mirror, it is NEVER SHOWN. It doesn’t reflect anything in the entire series. Hell, we see it NOT reflect Kirin, and Itachi’s Susano’o just gets completely blown away. Plus it’s directional, and you generally don’t want to approach a Perfect Susano’o head on anyway If you couldn’t tell, I’m not a big fan of the Yata Mirror Also we see that the Totsuka Blade only seals targets it pierces, not targets it slashes. It doesn’t seal Orochimaru when Itachi cuts off the 8 headed serpent’s heads Also for the Tsukuyomi stuff… how would itachi make eye contact with someone from within a massive glowing chakra mech that flies at lightspeed? Also also with the Edo Itachi stuff, that was a clone of KCM Naruto, which means he had like 1/10 chakra, which means he was roughly 1/10 the speed So I’d put Itachi more around Revived Madara rather than Rinnegan Sasuke, considering Rinnegan Sasuke scales above Juubidara
Hey Nick, i honestly have a big question that’s been on my mind lately So, since Sasuke is Indra’s reincarnation, he has his susano’o but why does Madara not have Indra’s susano’o? I have no idea if you’ve answered this or not, but i just wanted to know!
I like the idea that the disease is tied to Tsukiomi. I just finished Midnight and it’s fantastic. Tragic but fantastic. I liked Itachi a lot before reading his light novels but he may have overtaken Kakashi as my favorite character now. Also he used Tsukiomi against Yashiro during the massacre. He Kakashi’d him.
I imagine I need to email this to you Nick. What would a battle between Tsunade and Danzo look like without Danzo having to worry about Obito and Tsunade not getting the buff from Dan?
I would argue that since Itachi's yatamirror (I know I misspelled it, sue me) has all 5 chakra nature's, it would be possible and easier for him to learn to use all 5 chakra nature's far easier than normal people (kinda like the Rinnegan does for people as well).
I’ll never get over the fact that Kishimoto introduced two of the most broken weapons in all of Naruto and never explained them. Itachi’s totsuka blade and yata mirror.
Imagine what itachi could do with full susano and both treasures he had. Imagine he had like 10 years training with his MS. I bet his susano would be peak evolution
I know ima Obito Stan but. DMS Obito pretty much wrecks the Universe. Especially if he had EMS and got the Same Susano Kakashi shown with the Kamui Shuriken. I always thought his Kamui ability was the best MS in the Show but adding The other Eye makes him Unbeatable especially if you factor in his Hashirama cells. My guy also was super proficient at Genjutsu as well as Izanagi. Dude is the coolest
So here’s a question that’s been on my mind: when itachi stabs orochimaru with the blade of totsuka, orichimaru is surprised that itachi has it. I think he says something like “you had it this whole time?!” or something which, to me, implies that itachi found it and added it to his susano somehow. This also probably applies to the yata mirror. So if this is the case, why didn’t itachi hand them down to sasuke upon his death?
Itachi is top 5 in every category and thats not a reach. Top 5 in Speed Top 5 in IQ Top 5 in Genjutsu Top 5 in Kenjutsu Top 5 in Fuinjutsu Top 5 in Taijutsu He was literally the most skilled prodigy of all time. The factions in the Leaf were fighting over him ..
12:40 Well both Hashirama and Naruto got it from their biological lineage, it's not like Kushina was an ashura reincarnate, Naruto was going to die almost immediately after half of Kurama was yoinked from him but Kushina survived the whole fox taken out of her and there weren't even medical ninja with her. Doesn't seem to be enough to support that being haunted by ashura gave them more power. Now Idk if having straight-patterned choku tomoe mangekyo sharingan really has much connection to being an Indra reincarnate, Madara theorizes that it denotes a supernatural connection but as far as we know, Indra's MS pattern wasn't straight, it was an spiral as shown in the manga. Not sure if that connection can be sustained without more evidence.
Honestly, Itachi should be able to kill with Tsukuyomi without locking them into that genjutsu for 60yrs. Only a few days in Tsukuyomi should be enough. When Kakashi was put in it, he was out for 3 days and that was only due to what he experienced in Tsukuyomi (Getting stabbed repeatedly). While that is painful, I would argue that a much more ruthless act would kill the target in that time, like setting them on fire or hacking them up repeatedly. It's still bad, but it's more cruel which would put the mind under greater shock and with an EMS, Tsukuyomi would be much stronger, similar to how Sasuke had an upgrade with his Kagutsuchi.
Although I do agree that Itachi would become about as strong (if not stronger) as Sasuke by the end of the war, the crazy thing is that this increase in power would be rather immediate. As all but one of these abilities you laid out are ALREADY AVAILABLE to him by the time of his death. The thing to note is that EMS unlocks new abilities as well, ONTOP of bringing out his Susano'o's maximum potential. While keeping in mind that Itachi has pretty much everything in his kit that he would need to be on Rinne Sharingan Sasuke's level-- You also have to keep in mind that his powers will develop EVEN further beyond this. Given he's one of the greatest minds in the Narutoverse (intellectually/tactically/creatively), has 3-4 chakra natures, and will without a doubt develop new powers AND new ways to use his current ones- Itachi would progress likely beyond any kind of theorizing that we could make. And his potential for sure does not reach its point at Rinne Sharingan Sasuke, it would likely go way beyond that. To my point. Imagine if he was the one fighting Naruto at the Final Valley. Naruto could not tank his strongest/most potent attacks very likely. Now imagine Itachi gets to be Sasuke's age now, and how much more his powers would have progressed as he learns/invents new jutsu and develops his ocular abilities. Nah. He's way too scary to even think about.
itachi is the goat for puting his girl in a 60 year infinite sukuyomi to show her how their life would be like with a happy family since he loved her so much
idk.. a full power itachi, vs madara would be a fun fight to see though. Like yes the possibility of him actually winning would be low, it would be there and seeing two battle geniuses go toe to toe would be awesome. Also if anyone was going to hit madara with a genjutsu, it would be itachi. I'd see it like itachi replacing guy when sasuke and naruto are talking to hagoromo... itachi and madara are going toe to toe for a little bit, madara playing around a little bit allows itachi to land a tsukuyomi similar to how he stood there and just tried to block the night guy kick... and madara survives a 60+ year tsukuyomi but ends up in a similar state to how he was with night guy where he congratulates itachi before promptly speed blitzing the tired out itachi and kills him (naruto saving guy is stupid af and shouldn't have happened)
Shisui Uchiha, Shino Aburame, Zabuza Memochi, Haku Yuki, Rock Lee, Asuma Sarutobi, Kurenai Yuhi, Kimimaro Kaguya, Kurostuchi of Iwa(Onoki granddaughter and should have learned Kekkei Tota), and Sai. Those Shinobi I listed are some mention and some similar to Itachi like Kimimaro Kaguya in terms of disease. Not to mention Lineages or connections/Ranks this earned to whom they battled and encountered. Some characters did die, but i felt like Jonin Ranks in the Anime/Manga should mean insane potential these Shinobi achieved or at Jonin Level because of their skills alone.
“He may have even had more potential then sasuke” what an understatement. He out stats sasuke pound for pound at every level. Sasuke had no clue what was going on while Itachi was playing 4d chess not trying to mill him while sasuke was going all out. He was a prodigy that outclassed sasuke at every level. Take away his sickness and give him every bullshit power up sasuke was HANDED and of course Itachi would stomp. He’s better at literally everything. Also has way higher iq and battle iq which is displayed multiple times
End of Shippuden Sasuke was miles above Itachi, even at Itachi's theoretical peak. Boruto Sasuke is the second strongest being on Earth. Itachi had been left behind DECADES ago.
Was watching your yin and yang release explained and it had me thinking, tobirama told the senju to "become" the village, what if chojis clan is actually senjuish decendants
Itachi, probably: "Would you like these crows to use Susano'o or not?"
problem is: as nick said, itachi doesn't have big chakra reserves to the level of Madara because he and Sasuke are the reincarnation of a literal alien (kinda unfair isn't it).
But I do think he would have scaled to Kakashi DMS
H3ll no
@@Madowl5761/4 alien
Kaguya 100% alien
Hagoromo 50% alien
Indra/Ashura 25% alien
“Full power Itachi could solo Madara and Sasuke at once”😂
@@Madowl576which technically can beat almost anybody just cuz hax. Not a easy diff thing but always a possibility
The idea of Itachi dying, because he basically used all of his lifeforce "for" his girlfriend, while protecting his village is pretty wonderful. He basically didnt ever live for himself and made the ultimate sacrifice and very many levels.
Madara: I want Infinite Tsukuyomi!
EMS Itachi: We got Infinite Tsukuyomi at home
The plot of Naruto would have been so much shorter if Obito wasn't embarrassed to ask Itachi to Tsukuyomi in existence a tumbler post about Obito and Rin
Itachi definetly stands on the Mount Rushmore of pontential men along with gohan, toshiro and Megumi.
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Toshiro,Megumi,Itachi my goats🗿
Toshiro Hitsugaya?
@@Thund3rDrag0n12 nahhhh toshiro Slapsugaya💀
@@GogetaAndVegito That was so stupid my computer thought I needed to translate it...
Totally agree with all of this, including your explanation for why Itachi would never be a sage, but please consider how utterly badass the idea of Crow Sage Itachi would be.
I also think Itachi strength wise falls right about where you placed him, but his battle IQ (which is just downright absurd, lowkey immeasurable) would allow him to punch far above his weight. Not enough, in most cases, to take out those that are far beyond him in power, but enough that he would likely be a huge assisting factor in dealing w any major battle. I'd say he'd even be a factor in otsutsuki battles. not as a combatant mind you, but in formulating a strategy on the fly. That's probably his wildest hack as a character that isn't really scalable. He's just unmatched in understanding the situation, being keenly aware of the tools available for both sides, and then working out the optimal approach. all on the fly, and to an extent we don't really see others capable of. at least not as effortlessly as he seems to do it.
True, It would be an immeasurably
pleasant gift to see itachi as hokage he would make the greatest hokage, better than naruto
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14:55 i felt compelled to like the video at this exact moment and I have no idea why
My favourite Yap session
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In Their entire life in the tsukoyomi, they also had children. Did Itachi invent genjutsu sex or is that a thing already in the Naruto verse.
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Duhh lol since kaguya
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Getting total recall vibs lol
Did a 13 year old Itachi even knew how to do it, did he felt anything in real life, so technically he lost his virginity in genjutsu and based on Nick’s theory, it means his body should have lived through all of this, omg I have so many questions 😅
21:35
“The shock of being snapped out of the genjutsu might be enough to kill you”
This backs up the theory that Obito took Fugaku’s eyes. Exhibit B: Yagura
Nick can honestly read the phone book and we will listen
I wouldn’t. That’s dumb
Because you know what ever he looking at he really looking at it, and you trust in his word because he has actual knowledge on what he's talking about. With receipts and logic out the ass
No
@kim9god607 but he contradics himself constantly, and he's constantly wrong.
So true
Both Madara & Itachi were on life support, before dying in front of an Uchiha. And later getting reanimated during the 4th Great Ninja War.
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@@AhmedHussain-ju6xdyou’ve taken to the task of numbering each one of their comments. So, I’m gonna start liking every one of yours that I see because I’m also tired of seeing the comment section be this dude word vomit.
Dear sir, I shall number you as well.
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Please do one on KIMIMARO 💯💯🙌🏽🙌🏽 Great video btw 🗣️
So graceful
yessss this is a fantastic idea for content
A full body, perfect Susanoo with the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade would be kinda dummy OP.
If Itachi had awakened the EMS by taking Sasuke's eyes then I actually think he could have awakened the Rinnegan (even not being Indra's reincarnation), as if he implanted something like Hashirama Cells then Ashura's Chakra would be able to react with Sasuke's eyes, as they still would have both Sasuke's and Indra's Chakra in them.
It might take a near death experience for that to happen though, as both Sasuke and Madara had to be on the verge of death to awaken the Rinnegan.
Also I think it's entirely reasonable to think that healthy Itachi *could* have become a Sage considering that he knew what Ryuchi Cave was, so assuming that he would be able to withstand the training then he could have just gone to Ryuchi Cave himself and learned how to control Nature Energy from the White Snake Sage without needing someone like Orochimaru to train him.
The fact that he researched Ryuchi Cave at all might suggest that, in canon, Itachi actually once might have wanted to become a Sage, but ultimately didn't because his body began to fail him and he became too sick.
Sucks Sarada speed blitz solo itachi no gates, no hashirama cells. No MS strategy, SHE IS JUST GOING UP TO HIM AND PUNCHING HIM. Hashtag scalerlyfe!
@@ComputerBLEW ,_, you were caught in my genjutsu
Awaking rinnegan is limited to indra incarnation. If itachi took ms of sasuke and implant in his eye and then if he get hahsirama cell then he wont be able to awaken rinnegan because the moment itachi gonna implant ms of sasuke, sasuke's chakra would get mixed with itachi's chakra which will make it itachi's own chakra.
If a shinobi dont have high chakra Reserve then he wont be able to become a sage. Itachi's sickness only affect him when he take a long battle or he have to use too much of his chakra, in short battle his sickness doesnt disturb him that much
@@abdullahkurashi2135 not true it was a cripplingy chakra illness eating away at his chakra reserves or his life force it was Quite literally killing him without said illness would have greatly impacted itachi
really big fan, just fell in love with this channel, any of my naruto questions i go straight to this channel, love your stuff man!
Honestly such a good video as always dude. Keep up the good work
Love the new series of videos!
Itachi revival like koji would be intresting
Boruto viewership would skyrocket.
Need a version of this with Orochimaru, if everything went right, like him getting sasukes body, and the three tails
Reword that part with Sasuke’s body please
Vid really starts at 11:00 before that is cool facts and speculation
I been waiting all my life for this video !!
Itachi's biggest strength, which is never talked about, isn't what we have seen. Itachi's biggest strength is the unknowing, the mystery of what Itachi will do next and how he will solve the problem at hand, that is what makes him considerably fearsome. It seems that Itachi always knows how to take down his opponent, even if it means pulling out tricks we never would have imagined.
I’m here for this video series 💯
Please do Shino next! I subscribe to the idea that the chakra sickness is from a bug that the Aburame can control.
Being in contact with Shisui gave it to him it just took a while for the effects to kick in. That’s what I got from your comment. I like it
@@ACagedBird364 Yeah pretty much! Like maybe the chakra sickness is an extra effect no one knew about. Or maybe there is a group of secret Aburame or there that's trying to keep things balanced so whenever anyone gets a little too strong, they send out bugs to poison a person slowly over time and that's how Naruto got the sickness too. They were just able to find a cure for him though. (I know it's a pretty silly idea I just want the Aburame to be bigger in the naruverse)
Weird fact: Itachi only uses Tsukuyomi on Sharingan users.
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Bc why he should waste MS on someone when he can just do with 3 tomeo like to orochimaru he did paraylsis genjutsu he just want flex tstukyomi in front of Sharingan users to show them true power of sharingan
You’re just wrong lol💀💀🫵
@Hange_likes_potatoes_too could you remind who he used it on that didn't have a sharingan? I thought there was someone but I can't remember who.
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This is what I always wanted to see, Itachi taking Sasuke’s eyes and going HAM
Great theory, thought out and reasonable
Nice Content idea🎉
You have to so Shisui too
Healthy EMS Itachi would scale roughly to EMS Madara. The super dumbed down argument would be as follows;
Sick MS Itachi ~ Minato ~ Tobirama ~> Izuna ~ MS Madara
Then presume EMS amp is roughly on par between characters, Not being sick amps Itachi further, and lastly Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror make up any power differential.
Itachi’s true power and advantage over other ninjas is his intelligence. Nick, you should include that when discussing Itachi, but overall awesome take!
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5:18 Not Nick leaning into the Day 1 meme finally 🤣💀
Nick needs a real job this many channels if yt didn't pay these people wouldn't be doing it
Nick this series is going to take u over the top.
Is it possible that you can talk about konan in this new video series, no particular reason i just want to hear more about konan, her jutsu is cool what can i say.
I still NEED that "you know nothing about Zabuza."
Often these discussions are determining strength via straight power. Itachi's "strength" was never that he could straight up Stat-check anyone he fought, but that he is extremely strong, AND his battle IQ\coordination was next level. Definitely a harder thing to measure, but I figure the only shinobi that could outwit Itachi would be Shikamaru, who gets stat checked handily. Does that make him the "strongest"... Nope. But it does mean he will win fights in which he is outgunned, which imo is more important.
It took until 13:06 for me to like this video since I was told at the beginning of the video to like when you said Yata Mirror
12:19 Kind of It is hahahaha, I know they are not, but kind of can happened, and the Prove for this is that it took almost 1000 years to Madara vs Hashirama, and we do not see any other versions of this, except to Naruto and Sasuke, this means that this "1000 years war" , did not had their leaders for most of the time OR that for some time one or the other were alive, this means that both been alive at the same time is a rare thing.
Rock lee full potential island level plus
Can you make a video explaining how strong the samurai are ? In boruto and Naruto
Isn’t there a samurai girl in the anime
@@NotAnotherUA-camr-_-yes there is one
Mifune the leader of the Samuri might of been the strongest one to ever exist and he was capable of fighting Hanzo both in the past and in the War Arc.
Impressive i guess he was probably around Sanin level
Ok that was a great meme, liked the video on command
Yeah Itachi with EMS would seriously challenge the Otsutsuki I believe
Ahh my favorite naruto encyclopedia, goat of the naruto fandom imo and i hope someday it pays off he definitely deserves to be apart of the show in some way
I really do like this series great idea
I want to see a compressed Susano’o. Now you have all that chakra compressed, making it an even greater defense, and since the chakra is closer it’s easier to control making it faster as well. It’d be like Naruto’s KCM
I've been writing. Itachi is one of the strongest and smartest in the show. He literally had the mind of a hokage at like 8 if he was privy of awakening the rinnegan or if he did. He never would stoop that low. He is the truest leaf Shinobi ever born.
With the Uchiha powers being unlocked from strong emotions, often uncontrollable emotions could they undergo sage training? Or would it nerf their clan power gaining that much control over themselves? The only way we've seen an Uchiha gain sage/nature energy so far is from unnatural means.
good video series idea
I think a cool retcon would be his sickness was because Danzo poisoned him out of fear of Itachi exposing him
Another note is that Itachi never used more force or chakra than necessary, He never actually went 100% all out..
unfortunate. would have been cool to see
Might sound dark, but I would love to see the Massacre animated fully. All these battles and what he actually experienced that night prior to striking down his parents.
To add to the totsuki bead theory, itachi is probably the most talented user of shuriken ever to the point as a child scaring orochimaru into thinking he was going to kill himself
Dude episode 128 of original naruto, in the beginning when Naruto yells Sasuke! Sasuke hears naruto as an echo and it irritates him, the last battle between them, Sasuke yells at Naruto and says he's tired of him..... Kishomoto is crazy at story telling and going back. Sorry not related to the video but big fan
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Sheno would actually be awesome especially considering arc like the sasuke retrieval arc would have been little to no difficulty if he was part of the group lol.
Speaking of shisui I’m surprised nick didnt posit what if Itachi used Shisui’s eye that he was give to make one of his EMS then on top of tsukyomi he would also have kotoamatsukami or perhaps even a fusion of the 2 given the MS abilities can evolve when the ems is unlocked
You don't get more mangekyo abilities with ems
@ except you do, that’s how Sasuke gained the ability to manipulate Amaterasu instead of just firing it out like Itachi does
@cfakatsuki17 Everyone gains 2 MS abilities as long as they have 2 eyes, obito awakens 2 forms of kamui ( 1 in his eye and other in kakashi's), itachi awakens tsukuyomi and amaterasu (itachi had 2 abilities and never gained the EMS), sasuke awakens amaterasu and kurotsuchi.
Gaining the EMS just makes you stronger and unlocks stronger forms of the susanoo
@ Sasuke didn’t have Kurotsuchi until he got EMS
@cfakatsuki17 sasuke didn't get kurotsuchi from itachi's eyes, considering itachi himself didn't have kurotsuchi, every single character with the ms awakened two ms abilities so why would sasuke be different.
Ignoring sasuke's matter, itachi wouldn't have gained another ability if he gained EMS so your argument is moot anyway
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You know my head cannon has always been that itachi had a well thought pair of ms abilities suppose to be used as a combo to one shot foes. Eg immobilise them with tsykoumi then burn them with amaterasu.
It's a well though move pool.
Tobirama peak,,w vid
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Have you ever done a ranked and explained video for senjutsu users?
full potential Itachi vs jigen Hax vs Hax
My theory is that his genjutsu takes portions of his life every time he uses it. Hence why he never does the 60 year one again and only makes his genjutsus last for a few days. I'm probably wrong but I thinks its a decent theory
thats literally what was disscussed in the video... how is it ur theory?
the 60 year was only to show his gf what could have been with their life and to make her die happy since he truely loved her
@@JayDeeeeeeeee I made that theory before the video was finished. He made a lot of valid points that got me thinking. I meant no disrespect.
@@loscratch3467 I know. It was a very heartwarming moment.
@@GR4FF1T1 no disrespect experienced bro. You just happened to be ahead, clearly you're on to something because NChammer thought the same.
good for you bud! have a nice day :)
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I just want to point out that, despite them saying all that about the Yata Mirror, it is NEVER SHOWN. It doesn’t reflect anything in the entire series. Hell, we see it NOT reflect Kirin, and Itachi’s Susano’o just gets completely blown away. Plus it’s directional, and you generally don’t want to approach a Perfect Susano’o head on anyway
If you couldn’t tell, I’m not a big fan of the Yata Mirror
Also we see that the Totsuka Blade only seals targets it pierces, not targets it slashes. It doesn’t seal Orochimaru when Itachi cuts off the 8 headed serpent’s heads
Also for the Tsukuyomi stuff… how would itachi make eye contact with someone from within a massive glowing chakra mech that flies at lightspeed?
Also also with the Edo Itachi stuff, that was a clone of KCM Naruto, which means he had like 1/10 chakra, which means he was roughly 1/10 the speed
So I’d put Itachi more around Revived Madara rather than Rinnegan Sasuke, considering Rinnegan Sasuke scales above Juubidara
My visual for amateratsu magatama is just itachi throwing microwaved honeybuns at enemies
Hey Nick, i honestly have a big question that’s been on my mind lately
So, since Sasuke is Indra’s reincarnation, he has his susano’o but why does Madara not have Indra’s susano’o?
I have no idea if you’ve answered this or not, but i just wanted to know!
The indra-ms-stuff was anime-filler, so it was probably an oversight or to hint to their connection.
That ems design is so cool
I wish they animated Itachi & Shisui fighting Mukai Kohinata. 😢
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I like the idea that the disease is tied to Tsukiomi. I just finished Midnight and it’s fantastic. Tragic but fantastic. I liked Itachi a lot before reading his light novels but he may have overtaken Kakashi as my favorite character now.
Also he used Tsukiomi against Yashiro during the massacre. He Kakashi’d him.
I imagine I need to email this to you Nick. What would a battle between Tsunade and Danzo look like without Danzo having to worry about Obito and Tsunade not getting the buff from Dan?
I would argue that since Itachi's yatamirror (I know I misspelled it, sue me) has all 5 chakra nature's, it would be possible and easier for him to learn to use all 5 chakra nature's far easier than normal people (kinda like the Rinnegan does for people as well).
I’ll never get over the fact that Kishimoto introduced two of the most broken weapons in all of Naruto and never explained them. Itachi’s totsuka blade and yata mirror.
Damn I know this video is long, but I thought you would have touched on him taking his fathers eyes😂
You normally try your best to dump on itachi... Proud of your growth
Itachi helping against Madara and Kaguya would be dope but he would outshine main heroes with his battle IQ so he needed to be cut
Imagine what itachi could do with full susano and both treasures he had. Imagine he had like 10 years training with his MS. I bet his susano would be peak evolution
I know ima Obito Stan but. DMS Obito pretty much wrecks the Universe. Especially if he had EMS and got the Same Susano Kakashi shown with the Kamui Shuriken. I always thought his Kamui ability was the best MS in the Show but adding The other Eye makes him Unbeatable especially if you factor in his Hashirama cells. My guy also was super proficient at Genjutsu as well as Izanagi. Dude is the coolest
So here’s a question that’s been on my mind: when itachi stabs orochimaru with the blade of totsuka, orichimaru is surprised that itachi has it. I think he says something like “you had it this whole time?!” or something which, to me, implies that itachi found it and added it to his susano somehow. This also probably applies to the yata mirror. So if this is the case, why didn’t itachi hand them down to sasuke upon his death?
Itachi is top 5 in every category and thats not a reach.
Top 5 in Speed
Top 5 in IQ
Top 5 in Genjutsu
Top 5 in Kenjutsu
Top 5 in Fuinjutsu
Top 5 in Taijutsu
He was literally the most skilled prodigy of all time. The factions in the Leaf were fighting over him ..
12:40 Well both Hashirama and Naruto got it from their biological lineage, it's not like Kushina was an ashura reincarnate, Naruto was going to die almost immediately after half of Kurama was yoinked from him but Kushina survived the whole fox taken out of her and there weren't even medical ninja with her. Doesn't seem to be enough to support that being haunted by ashura gave them more power.
Now Idk if having straight-patterned choku tomoe mangekyo sharingan really has much connection to being an Indra reincarnate, Madara theorizes that it denotes a supernatural connection but as far as we know, Indra's MS pattern wasn't straight, it was an spiral as shown in the manga. Not sure if that connection can be sustained without more evidence.
First frame is doing you no favors 😂
Day one of asking for a video like this for ten ten
I definitely agree with you
Crazy. I had the strangest compulsion to like this vid at 14:55 😵💫
Honestly, Itachi should be able to kill with Tsukuyomi without locking them into that genjutsu for 60yrs. Only a few days in Tsukuyomi should be enough. When Kakashi was put in it, he was out for 3 days and that was only due to what he experienced in Tsukuyomi (Getting stabbed repeatedly). While that is painful, I would argue that a much more ruthless act would kill the target in that time, like setting them on fire or hacking them up repeatedly. It's still bad, but it's more cruel which would put the mind under greater shock and with an EMS, Tsukuyomi would be much stronger, similar to how Sasuke had an upgrade with his Kagutsuchi.
Although I do agree that Itachi would become about as strong (if not stronger) as Sasuke by the end of the war, the crazy thing is that this increase in power would be rather immediate. As all but one of these abilities you laid out are ALREADY AVAILABLE to him by the time of his death. The thing to note is that EMS unlocks new abilities as well, ONTOP of bringing out his Susano'o's maximum potential. While keeping in mind that Itachi has pretty much everything in his kit that he would need to be on Rinne Sharingan Sasuke's level-- You also have to keep in mind that his powers will develop EVEN further beyond this. Given he's one of the greatest minds in the Narutoverse (intellectually/tactically/creatively), has 3-4 chakra natures, and will without a doubt develop new powers AND new ways to use his current ones- Itachi would progress likely beyond any kind of theorizing that we could make. And his potential for sure does not reach its point at Rinne Sharingan Sasuke, it would likely go way beyond that.
To my point. Imagine if he was the one fighting Naruto at the Final Valley. Naruto could not tank his strongest/most potent attacks very likely.
Now imagine Itachi gets to be Sasuke's age now, and how much more his powers would have progressed as he learns/invents new jutsu and develops his ocular abilities.
Nah. He's way too scary to even think about.
Since you did Itachi you have to do Minato Next cause we sure as hell know he didn’t live up to his potential too.
itachi is the goat for puting his girl in a 60 year infinite sukuyomi to show her how their life would be like with a happy family since he loved her so much
Maybe the Chakra illness came from getting a sharingan from a non family member? You could argue danzo but hashirama cells
idk.. a full power itachi, vs madara would be a fun fight to see though. Like yes the possibility of him actually winning would be low, it would be there and seeing two battle geniuses go toe to toe would be awesome. Also if anyone was going to hit madara with a genjutsu, it would be itachi.
I'd see it like itachi replacing guy when sasuke and naruto are talking to hagoromo... itachi and madara are going toe to toe for a little bit, madara playing around a little bit allows itachi to land a tsukuyomi similar to how he stood there and just tried to block the night guy kick... and madara survives a 60+ year tsukuyomi but ends up in a similar state to how he was with night guy where he congratulates itachi before promptly speed blitzing the tired out itachi and kills him (naruto saving guy is stupid af and shouldn't have happened)
24:30 🤔 I wonder what episode is this image from
Shisui Uchiha, Shino Aburame, Zabuza Memochi, Haku Yuki, Rock Lee, Asuma Sarutobi, Kurenai Yuhi, Kimimaro Kaguya, Kurostuchi of Iwa(Onoki granddaughter and should have learned Kekkei Tota), and Sai.
Those Shinobi I listed are some mention and some similar to Itachi like Kimimaro Kaguya in terms of disease. Not to mention Lineages or connections/Ranks this earned to whom they battled and encountered. Some characters did die, but i felt like Jonin Ranks in the Anime/Manga should mean insane potential these Shinobi achieved or at Jonin Level because of their skills alone.
“He may have even had more potential then sasuke” what an understatement. He out stats sasuke pound for pound at every level. Sasuke had no clue what was going on while Itachi was playing 4d chess not trying to mill him while sasuke was going all out. He was a prodigy that outclassed sasuke at every level. Take away his sickness and give him every bullshit power up sasuke was HANDED and of course Itachi would stomp. He’s better at literally everything. Also has way higher iq and battle iq which is displayed multiple times
End of Shippuden Sasuke was miles above Itachi, even at Itachi's theoretical peak. Boruto Sasuke is the second strongest being on Earth. Itachi had been left behind DECADES ago.
Itachi without his illness and EMS sweeps up to Obito and Madara
They should have different uchiha eyes in the video games, like ems sasuke sharingan eyes madara or this one
Was watching your yin and yang release explained and it had me thinking, tobirama told the senju to "become" the village, what if chojis clan is actually senjuish decendants
Can we agree that itachi doesn’t have to look at you to put you under genjutsu
Idk how he would have more potential than sasuke as he is a reincarnation of his eldest son .