I just want to express my appreciation for the video. I have come to most of these things by myself, but I wouldn't be able to transport the ideas so well. Thanks for taking the time to organize all this! Last bit of the video was a magician's secret to me.
Watching your video, I felt a little bit better to see that I was not the only one with a messy layout on Mobius. And then, half watching your video over again, and half trying shortcuts, I pressed 'Z" and wahou, it changed my life. When you pressed "Z", you can modify the layout of your window so all the information don't end up on top of each other. That's so much better now. But I have still one thing I can't find. I can't find the metronome (tempo) thing. I'd love to be able to start with a metronome on Mobius. If anybody has a tip for that one, I'd be most grateful.
Hello, This is an awesome tutorial video. 1st of all thanks a lot for such an incredible tutorial. I'm learning live looping , following this video. Ans recenetly I bought a small midi control surface Nehringer X Touch Mini but couldnt route it properly with Mobius Looper. Can you please help me with this? X touch mini is showing everything in midi channel 11. In the standalone mode of Mobius I could easily route using midi bindings and midi capture feature. But whenever I'm trying to use it in this tyoe of Reaper Project, Mobius is not working. In the midi device tab it is showing both X Touch mini and my Roland Digital Piano.
This is a fantastic tutorial. I have one question that I'm not sure where else to ask haha. I have my yamaha keyboard as an external audio device for mobius and whenever I add a second loop, that loop plays slightly before the earlier loop. Does anybody have any ideas on how I can fix that?
I am assuming that you have a Windows system, there's a part in the video(8:30) that mentions how to select audio devices from ASIO4ALL driver, the buffer length option is available just below the input and output devices in ASIO4ALL
Pretty cool, but from what I can tell this is looping audio only? I'm trying to loop midi input into a vst, and it's proving kind of difficult. Closest thing I've found is a Reaper JS plugin called Midi note Echo but it's unpredictable/has a mind of its own so is not reliable. Side note, another cool way to handle audio looping in Reaper is by using ReaDelay. Setup a bus with ReaDelay, input the length of your loop in 8th notes, set the repeats to 0 (infinite), and create a send from your instrument track. Then using automation on the send, have it so its only active for the length of your loop. It cant overdub, but setting up multiple buses for each layer is not a big deal and you can use the automation to create rather complex arrangements.
Kudos for referring MIDI echo and ReaDelay, that's actually a great idea as ReaDelay is readily available in Reaper, Also Reaper has it's own Super8 looper. Yes I have routed just the audio from the MIDI device into the Mobius Looper, this setup is supposed to be a simple looping setup with multiple elements including audio devices and MIDI virtual instruments from different channels routed to the looper, so this is meant for musicians who are new to live looping rather new to reaper all together, but I didn't wanted them to hold back on any possibilities input wise, so it's a setup that can be used for a MIDI device , along with a guitar and mic included in the same setup
this video is concerned with live looping integrating audio sources as well as MIDI sources along with control of loop function with a dedicated MIDI channel
@@soundunwound He's talking about midi NOTE looping which means you could change the sound afterwards because the software would only be looping the midi notes
8:20 and Asio4All is exactly WHY I´m looking for an alternative method for livesession via screencapture... It doesn´t work becaus Asio4All takes exclusive control over soundsources, thus no sound will be captured... Up to that point I had hopes... Will try my luck with Cakewalk´s matrix view then and pray that I can make it work as I need it... So far the only program where I can screencapture without latency on the input channels (guitar and vox)... Not sure if the matrix view can replace, for example, performance panel in Mixcraft or even Ableton Live. (I own both and am rather "upset" that I can´t properly use them for live streams... )
This is a fantastic tutorial. Everything works fine but for some reason, even though the mic shows the level moving when I speak, it doesn't get sampled into the loop. Any idea why? Thanks again.
Thank you for the very detailed video! I have set this up in Cakewalk (formerly Sonar) and it works the same way. But after I shut the software down, and come back later and open it up again, Mobius has forgotten all my settings! I have to set it up from scratch all over again. Does that happen with Reaper too? If so, how did you overcome it?
Reaper retains the configuration, can you check if this happens with other external VSTs in Cakewalk where it resets the configuration of the VST plugin every time you come back, another reason could be the Mobius plugin being 32bit, reaper has an inherent x86 bridge for such plugins which I thinks eliminates compatibility problems, also try Mobius as standalone utility, I understand that a 32 bit plugin doesnt make sense in this age but it's free and highly customisable, so worth a try
Great tutorial thanks! One question: Can you map to a foot pedal midi controller like a traditional Boss looper for ex: click=record/play/dub, double click=stop, click hold=clear/undo?
Awesome video. Only problem I have is when I record something new, it also records all the other track that are looping, so they all get doubled up every time. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
This looks really cool! I think Moebius is what I've been looking for, since I want something that works with FL Studio and don't want to learn a whole new DAW like Ableton to live loop. Would this setup also allow you to Layer the guitar multiple times?
do you mean like a hardware live looper like Ditto? in that case it's a yes, this can completely replace it provided you figure out a way to connect your guitar input to Mobius, but Mobius doesn't work well with FL from what I've experirnced, also it's a 32 bit software, I'm gonna put a video with all the updated 64bit plugins and DAW setups that can be used for live looping
Hey, I saw your video, this is amazing! I have 1 question about this program: I'm trying to run in on a standalone (without a DAW), everything works great except that my bar line isn't getting bigger when I try to record. Also, the Mobius app can't seem to have a BPM and a time signature for itself... is there a way to configure these parameters without using a DAW? Thanks!
While using it standalone make an empty loop using an external visible metronome to define the length of your loop, in track setup synchronization select synch source as track so that now you can use the first visible loop as a bar reference and the looping will work same as that in reaper
You did a great job! But I have one question. I use Mobius standalone. So I prerecord in track 1 the time I want to record (as you do with your reaper bars, but this with the bars in my head). And then I start recording things in the other tracks. My problem comes from the overdubbing stuff. I record something as long as reference track, and then start overdubbing. But I cannot press 'O' at time and other cycle starts recording. I mean, I overdub over 1 cicle of the loop playing my instrument, but when it finish I have to wait until the next full cicle to stop the overdub. I see in your video that you overdub something and in the middle of the cicle you stop the overdub. How I can do this? Thank you!!
once you have your reference loop and you move to track 2, first press "R" and the recording in track 2 will start at the next synch point i.e. when loop on your reference track resets or begins again, now press "R" and then "O" quickly once recording on track 2(pink full circle) begins, this will ensure the overdub to begin in the next cycle and now you can just focus on playing your primary loop at the next synch point with the visual cue from your reference loop and then overdub occurs automatically for the given loop length and you can keep on recording new loops over this track, but to avoid latency move to the next track after a few loops, now before moving to the next track lock your track number 2 by pressing "O" in an empty cycle (when you aren't playing anything or mute the instrument and let the loop be) which will stop the overdub and now you can repeat the same process for track 3
If you want to capture the loop session audio in standalone Mobius, open Audacity simultaneously and select wasapi mode and in the input device for Audacity select your computer's audio output, then start recording in Audacity and then make your loops,the complete session will be recorded in Audacity and you can export it from there
If you are using a DAW you have to arm the main track for recording and start recording on that track before you start looping just in the case of our tutorial, check the time stamp 13:10, if you are using standalone mobius you can use audacity with virtual cable
I am using ASIO4All and followed the routing instructions but no audio is going through the Mobius track.I've chosen all eight of the usb audio options and no audio gets there.
@@TomWilkowske if you are getting audio other tracks except mobius then ASIO4ALL isn't the problem, after routing check the level indicators on tracks, if you trigger the audio input(guitar or mic) track 2 and track 1 will indicate change in level, if you use MIDI keyboard track 1 and track 2 will indicate change in level, this indicates that routing is done alright, if you mean the ref loop in mobius doesn't start recording, then it will only happen after you have hit the main record button on reaper as we have set the loop track to synch with host
this is bit tricky, you'll either have to use vb-audio virtual cable to send daw output to obs or there is a vst plugin called reastream,after installing reastream you can access it in the vst plugin option in the audio filters in OBS, in reastream you have to use the local broadcast option
you need to use the routing feature of reaper 6:04, to record your live looping session on the Mobius track in reaper. After routing start recording in reaper on the primary track with Mobius on it and then open and use Mobius to start live looping to make sure your session is recorded on the reaper track as well
HI,currently ive got no audio input,any idea how to just record a line and loop it ? sound quality is not my major concern at this point thanks in advance
The most simple way is to use Mobius as a standalone application, and select your laptop microphone or your headset microphone in the Mobius audio devices and then you can just loop the sound recorded from the selected audio input
so just install ASIO4all and use Mobius as standalone application, select ASIO4ALL in the Mobius audio devices in the preferences, now in ASIO4all panel select your PC or Laptop mic as input and you are good to go, then you can refer to the looping part of the video
dude WHERE IS THE ''STOP'' and start again control in mobius???? thought that would be the most basic and easy to find, but i see no ''stop'' control/key/ ???...
This is normal when you use asio4all, your sound drivers switch from the standard driver to asio, you can enable specific input output from the asio4all settings(click on the spanner or gear icon), but you'll be only able get the audio output of the software for which you have selected asio4all( reaper in this case), there will be no audio output from other apps on PC while you have asio running
I just want to express my appreciation for the video.
I have come to most of these things by myself, but I wouldn't be able to transport the ideas so well.
Thanks for taking the time to organize all this! Last bit of the video was a magician's secret to me.
Great little tune. Very nicely done.
Tysm for the clear explanation and timestamps
Watching your video, I felt a little bit better to see that I was not the only one with a messy layout on Mobius.
And then, half watching your video over again, and half trying shortcuts, I pressed 'Z" and wahou, it changed my life.
When you pressed "Z", you can modify the layout of your window so all the information don't end up on top of each other.
That's so much better now.
But I have still one thing I can't find. I can't find the metronome (tempo) thing. I'd love to be able to start with a metronome on Mobius.
If anybody has a tip for that one, I'd be most grateful.
You can use metronome from reaper if you are using it with reaper, else in Mobius keep one of the loops as your reference metronome beat
Its super helpful brother :) More power to you. I will download n check this today itself. Been using Reaper for sometime now...Thanks again
thank you 👍, I'm glad you found the video helpful
Thank you so much for this. Time to venture into the world of software looping! So sick of the limitations of hardware loopers.
That's so true, glad you liked the tutorial
Extremely thankful brother. respect from Kerala❤️
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Great vid. Very well organized
Excellent, thanks!
Great video, well explained. Thanks for making it.
I am glad you found it helpful 🙂
Exactly what I needed. Thank you!
thank you for letting me know that it worked for you
Hello, This is an awesome tutorial video. 1st of all thanks a lot for such an incredible tutorial. I'm learning live looping , following this video. Ans recenetly I bought a small midi control surface Nehringer X Touch Mini but couldnt route it properly with Mobius Looper. Can you please help me with this? X touch mini is showing everything in midi channel 11. In the standalone mode of Mobius I could easily route using midi bindings and midi capture feature. But whenever I'm trying to use it in this tyoe of Reaper Project, Mobius is not working. In the midi device tab it is showing both X Touch mini and my Roland Digital Piano.
Ohhhh, thanks a lot... I've missed the last part of your video. You are a genius! :D
Thank you..I am really glad that the video turned out to be helpful for you
Thanks, man. Good tutorial, I appreciate your effort here.
Thank you, glad to know you liked it
This is a fantastic tutorial. I have one question that I'm not sure where else to ask haha. I have my yamaha keyboard as an external audio device for mobius and whenever I add a second loop, that loop plays slightly before the earlier loop. Does anybody have any ideas on how I can fix that?
this seems like a latency issue to me, for looping we use live recording so the buffer length in the ASIO4ALL should be set to a lower value
@@soundunwound Thanks for the reply, where can I change that value? I'm relatively new to music sorry haha
I am assuming that you have a Windows system, there's a part in the video(8:30) that mentions how to select audio devices from ASIO4ALL driver, the buffer length option is available just below the input and output devices in ASIO4ALL
@@soundunwound Yay! This worked for me, thanks so much :)
thank you so much this was much needed
glad to help
i love you man, you save my life and my pocket from a 100 dollars pedal hahahah
Thank you. I am really glad that you found the video helpful
Pretty cool, but from what I can tell this is looping audio only? I'm trying to loop midi input into a vst, and it's proving kind of difficult. Closest thing I've found is a Reaper JS plugin called Midi note Echo but it's unpredictable/has a mind of its own so is not reliable.
Side note, another cool way to handle audio looping in Reaper is by using ReaDelay. Setup a bus with ReaDelay, input the length of your loop in 8th notes, set the repeats to 0 (infinite), and create a send from your instrument track. Then using automation on the send, have it so its only active for the length of your loop. It cant overdub, but setting up multiple buses for each layer is not a big deal and you can use the automation to create rather complex arrangements.
Kudos for referring MIDI echo and ReaDelay, that's actually a great idea as ReaDelay is readily available in Reaper, Also Reaper has it's own Super8 looper.
Yes I have routed just the audio from the MIDI device into the Mobius Looper, this setup is supposed to be a simple looping setup with multiple elements including audio devices and MIDI virtual instruments from different channels routed to the looper, so this is meant for musicians who are new to live looping rather new to reaper all together, but I didn't wanted them to hold back on any possibilities input wise, so it's a setup that can be used for a MIDI device , along with a guitar and mic included in the same setup
Stochas is another open source utilitiy but with a completely different set of applications
this video is concerned with live looping integrating audio sources as well as MIDI sources along with control of loop function with a dedicated MIDI channel
U should check out the free giada looper OR LiveLoop
@@soundunwound He's talking about midi NOTE looping which means you could change the sound afterwards because the software would only be looping the midi notes
Made my day
very good help ! thanks
8:20 and Asio4All is exactly WHY I´m looking for an alternative method for livesession via screencapture... It doesn´t work becaus Asio4All takes exclusive control over soundsources, thus
no sound will be captured... Up to that point I had hopes... Will try my luck with Cakewalk´s matrix view then and pray that I can make it work as I need it...
So far the only program where I can screencapture without latency on the input channels (guitar and vox)... Not sure if the matrix view can replace, for example, performance panel in Mixcraft or even
Ableton Live. (I own both and am rather "upset" that I can´t properly use them for live streams... )
you can get the audio recorded sepeartely in the DAW and screen capture without audio
This is a fantastic tutorial. Everything works fine but for some reason, even though the mic shows the level moving when I speak, it doesn't get sampled into the loop. Any idea why? Thanks again.
this might be a routing issue make sure the the input channel is routed to the mobius channel, check the routing part of the video
Thanks a lot !
Hi! I love this! From where can i install mobius to my pc (windows 10)?
www.circularlabs.com/download2/download.html
this is the circular labs download page
Thank you for the very detailed video! I have set this up in Cakewalk (formerly Sonar) and it works the same way. But after I shut the software down, and come back later and open it up again, Mobius has forgotten all my settings! I have to set it up from scratch all over again. Does that happen with Reaper too? If so, how did you overcome it?
Reaper retains the configuration, can you check if this happens with other external VSTs in Cakewalk where it resets the configuration of the VST plugin every time you come back, another reason could be the Mobius plugin being 32bit, reaper has an inherent x86 bridge for such plugins which I thinks eliminates compatibility problems, also try Mobius as standalone utility, I understand that a 32 bit plugin doesnt make sense in this age but it's free and highly customisable, so worth a try
Can you please reupload this video, but without the background audio track which obscures hearing what you're saying? 🙏Thanks
Great tutorial thanks! One question: Can you map to a foot pedal midi controller like a traditional Boss looper for ex: click=record/play/dub, double click=stop, click hold=clear/undo?
Yes this can be done with an arduino based diy MIDI pedal, you can also have a dedicated foot switch for each function with it
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Awesome video. Only problem I have is when I record something new, it also records all the other track that are looping, so they all get doubled up every time. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
the problem seems to be related to the input settings of Mobius, also this can happen due to feedback of a microphone if you are using one for looping
This looks really cool! I think Moebius is what I've been looking for, since I want something that works with FL Studio and don't want to learn a whole new DAW like Ableton to live loop. Would this setup also allow you to Layer the guitar multiple times?
do you mean like a hardware live looper like Ditto? in that case it's a yes, this can completely replace it provided you figure out a way to connect your guitar input to Mobius, but Mobius doesn't work well with FL from what I've experirnced, also it's a 32 bit software, I'm gonna put a video with all the updated 64bit plugins and DAW setups that can be used for live looping
@@soundunwound That would be dope! Looking forward to it!
Hey, I saw your video, this is amazing!
I have 1 question about this program:
I'm trying to run in on a standalone (without a DAW), everything works great except that my bar line isn't getting bigger when I try to record.
Also, the Mobius app can't seem to have a BPM and a time signature for itself... is there a way to configure these parameters without using a DAW?
Thanks!
While using it standalone make an empty loop using an external visible metronome to define the length of your loop, in track setup synchronization select synch source as track so that now you can use the first visible loop as a bar reference and the looping will work same as that in reaper
So first track empty loop is reference and start looping from the second track
@@soundunwound OK, I got it :)
Thank you so much man!
is there a way to do this using the PC keyboard?
Yes use the keyboardshorts to control Mobius and create the empty reference loop
althought the vst file is in the vst folder, it doesnt appear in the ableton daw, what could be the reason? :c
check the VST location in the Ableton preferences, might be a different location than your VST folder
You did a great job! But I have one question. I use Mobius standalone. So I prerecord in track 1 the time I want to record (as you do with your reaper bars, but this with the bars in my head). And then I start recording things in the other tracks. My problem comes from the overdubbing stuff. I record something as long as reference track, and then start overdubbing. But I cannot press 'O' at time and other cycle starts recording. I mean, I overdub over 1 cicle of the loop playing my instrument, but when it finish I have to wait until the next full cicle to stop the overdub. I see in your video that you overdub something and in the middle of the cicle you stop the overdub. How I can do this?
Thank you!!
once you have your reference loop and you move to track 2, first press "R" and the recording in track 2 will start at the next synch point i.e. when loop on your reference track resets or begins again, now press "R" and then "O" quickly once recording on track 2(pink full circle) begins, this will ensure the overdub to begin in the next cycle and now you can just focus on playing your primary loop at the next synch point with the visual cue from your reference loop and then overdub occurs automatically for the given loop length and you can keep on recording new loops over this track, but to avoid latency move to the next track after a few loops, now before moving to the next track lock your track number 2 by pressing "O" in an empty cycle (when you aren't playing anything or mute the instrument and let the loop be) which will stop the overdub and now you can repeat the same process for track 3
@@soundunwound thank you mate, it works!!!!!
Does anyone know, using standalone Mobius (not in Reaper) how to capture a performance or create an output file?
If you want to capture the loop session audio in standalone Mobius, open Audacity simultaneously and select wasapi mode and in the input device for Audacity select your computer's audio output, then start recording in Audacity and then make your loops,the complete session will be recorded in Audacity and you can export it from there
@@soundunwound Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to answer this, huge help.
glad to help you out
How would you save the whole sound from beginning to end ?
If you are using a DAW you have to arm the main track for recording and start recording on that track before you start looping just in the case of our tutorial, check the time stamp 13:10, if you are using standalone mobius you can use audacity with virtual cable
I am using ASIO4All and followed the routing instructions but no audio is going through the Mobius track.I've chosen all eight of the usb audio options and no audio gets there.
are you using mobius with reaper?
@@soundunwound Yes I am.
@@TomWilkowske if you are getting audio other tracks except mobius then ASIO4ALL isn't the problem, after routing check the level indicators on tracks, if you trigger the audio input(guitar or mic) track 2 and track 1 will indicate change in level, if you use MIDI keyboard track 1 and track 2 will indicate change in level, this indicates that routing is done alright, if you mean the ref loop in mobius doesn't start recording, then it will only happen after you have hit the main record button on reaper as we have set the loop track to synch with host
Can you install Mobius VST in Ableton 64 bits?
You can make use of jbridge to convert 32bit plug-ins to 64bit, but ableton comes with a decent default looper which does the job
What midi keyboard is that? Thanks
Arturia mini
How to record the audio to obs ?
this is bit tricky, you'll either have to use vb-audio virtual cable to send daw output to obs or there is a vst plugin called reastream,after installing reastream you can access it in the vst plugin option in the audio filters in OBS, in reastream you have to use the local broadcast option
I’d give two thumbs up if I could
Thank you
Does it record it by itself to Reaper while looping?
you need to use the routing feature of reaper
6:04, to record your live looping session on the Mobius track in reaper. After routing start recording in reaper on the primary track with Mobius on it and then open and use Mobius to start live looping to make sure your session is recorded on the reaper track as well
HI,currently ive got no audio input,any idea how to just record a line and loop it ?
sound quality is not my major concern at this point thanks in advance
what OS are you using?
The most simple way is to use Mobius as a standalone application, and select your laptop microphone or your headset microphone in the Mobius audio devices and then you can just loop the sound recorded from the selected audio input
win10*
so just install ASIO4all and use Mobius as standalone application, select ASIO4ALL in the Mobius audio devices in the preferences, now in ASIO4all panel select your PC or Laptop mic as input and you are good to go, then you can refer to the looping part of the video
@@soundunwound tanx so much mate
dude WHERE IS THE ''STOP'' and start again control in mobius???? thought that would be the most basic and easy to find, but i see no ''stop'' control/key/ ???...
doesnt work for me... As soon as i use ASIO my computer audio is messed up.. I have no sound out or input at all.
This is normal when you use asio4all, your sound drivers switch from the standard driver to asio, you can enable specific input output from the asio4all settings(click on the spanner or gear icon), but you'll be only able get the audio output of the software for which you have selected asio4all( reaper in this case), there will be no audio output from other apps on PC while you have asio running
@@soundunwound oh okay.. That sucks but i will try anyway ^^ thanks
32 bit not 64 bit?
Sadly no 64 bit version for this
Only for Windows users....Mobius does not seem to be compatible with MAC OS Catalina
Yes apparently it doesn't support new updates of Mac OS, that's a bummer
i did everything just like in the video and it didnt work, bullshit
let me know where it went wrong,I'll try to help you out