Cyclists ignore 'death trap' zebra crossings in London

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  • Опубліковано 30 жов 2024

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  • @BikeJackass
    @BikeJackass Рік тому +76

    Put 3 speed bumps 2 feet apart 15 feet before the crossing, and a yield sign.

    • @nsturgeon7145
      @nsturgeon7145 Рік тому +6

      They wouldn't recognise it.

    • @siyad970
      @siyad970 Рік тому +1

      Speed bumps don't slow down cyclists, only affective with motorised vehicles

    • @TheTimmyUK
      @TheTimmyUK Рік тому +1

      Perfect for manuals or tabletops!

    • @curtisducati
      @curtisducati Рік тому

      Barbwire fence and spikes lol

    • @richhowe7193
      @richhowe7193 Рік тому +1

      Need to put in bumps or calming measures in, signs would help too. Cyclists think they’re part of an elite class but in their defence they just see a straight cycle lane

  • @TheFurrry
    @TheFurrry Рік тому +23

    1:50 big lad just walks right accross the crossing. well done m8 thats how its done

    • @SKBKER
      @SKBKER Рік тому +1

      One day he'll get knocked down .

  • @chris-non-voter
    @chris-non-voter Рік тому +74

    Whoever came up with this idea is incompetent. Knowing how dangerous they are they are still rolling them out. TFL says it all really. Totally F'ing Ludicrous.

    • @SaintGerbilUK
      @SaintGerbilUK Рік тому +4

      I'm guessing Sadiq Karen would say opposing this is "far-right" and "covid-denying" like he does whenever people reasonably disagree with what he's doing.

    • @turboconqueringmegaeagle9006
      @turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 Рік тому +4

      Innit, but putting bikes in the bus lane was also a stupid idea
      Pedestrians are like lemmings
      Cyclists don't follow any rules
      Drivers are all psychotic
      Not really sure any system that allows them to coexist isn't stupid.

    • @Equiluxe1
      @Equiluxe1 Рік тому +9

      The Dutch have been using this idea for years with trams and buses, the thing is the Dutch are more considerate for each other and don't have the ME ME ME ME attitude that seems so prevalent here in the UK which is something that has come in from the US and with immigration.

    • @grahamw453
      @grahamw453 Рік тому +1

      @@Equiluxe1 Yes the Dutch seem to have answers for the issues mentioned in the video above. Not sure why TFL thought they knew better and added zebra crossings where not needed. There's a good video showing the Dutch bus stops called "Cycling around a Dutch bus stop" - putting a fence between the bus stop and the cycle lane stops people spilling out into the cycle lane as well.

    • @curtisducati
      @curtisducati Рік тому

      KAHN THE W@NKER Did this .....

  • @arthurmackrell8154
    @arthurmackrell8154 Рік тому +40

    About time that cyclists are subject to the same penalties as other road users.

    • @russell5791
      @russell5791 Рік тому +2

      But as it's not a zebra crossing (It would need belisha beacons), no law being broken.

    • @thomaspynchon2871
      @thomaspynchon2871 Рік тому +1

      @@russell5791 LIAR.

    • @mbords01
      @mbords01 Рік тому

      Local police dept sometime write an article on traffic rules (including bicycle ) . Good reminder.

    • @Bonzman
      @Bonzman 3 місяці тому

      ​@@russell5791common sense that most cyclists haven't got.

    • @petergibson7287
      @petergibson7287 2 місяці тому

      So, nothing then.

  • @Denzel1916
    @Denzel1916 Рік тому +17

    I never even realised they had zebra crossings on them, doesn't even seem an issue even in the video, pedestrians wait 3 or 4 seconds max and both seem to flow fairly well.. has anyone ever been hit by a bike? Non issue really

    • @acceleratedsloth
      @acceleratedsloth Рік тому +1

      I have seen many people colliding with a bike near these stops. Every single one of them was NOT on a zebra crossing.
      I have seen around a hundred collisions between a pedestrian and a cyclist in London. Every single time, it was clearly the fault of the pedestrian, e.g. when the pedestrian was crossing on red (happened to me 2 times already) or the pedestrian just crossed the road randomly.

  • @c0mbat15
    @c0mbat15 Рік тому +33

    First time for me in London for years this week and I walked a lot. These zebra crossing really confused me. I knew by the end of my stay that no cyclist was stopping at them.

    • @ric1003
      @ric1003 Рік тому +5

      I cycle to work twice a week in London, crossing a lot of these, and I stop for pedestrians. But I've noticed very few other cyclists stopping

    • @TJTOPBOY
      @TJTOPBOY Рік тому +3

      @@ric1003 is it not a bit dangerous to stop on the smaller ones? I’d imagine it takes one lapse in concentration to cause pile up of cyclist

    • @acceleratedsloth
      @acceleratedsloth Рік тому

      Why would they stop? There is no law requiring a vehicle to stop for pedestrians.

    • @Efkis.
      @Efkis. Рік тому +6

      @@acceleratedsloth There literally is. It's a zebra crossing indicated by the stripes on the ground. Drivers and riders are supposed to give way to pedestrians waiting at the zebra crossing.

    • @gwyn111
      @gwyn111 Рік тому

      Looks like a new source of revenue for a cash strapped council! 40 quid fine every time they fail to stop should do it..

  • @occamraiser
    @occamraiser Рік тому +17

    Cyclists demand the same status as other road users....quite rightly..... BUT they must be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
    No mobile phones, obey traffic lights, no deciding to be a pedestrian to dodge traffic lights, no overtaking on the inside and no to the myriad other offences they feel entitled to commit. They should all be required to have an identifying number on their backs and every single one of them who went over that zebra crossing needs to be summoned to court and punished. Which means we need a licencing scheme too it appears otherwise how can we take their licence off the most prolific offenders.

    • @nsturgeon7145
      @nsturgeon7145 Рік тому +1

      Spot on 👍

    • @petergibson7287
      @petergibson7287 2 місяці тому

      That's a nice fantasy.
      Please explain how a licensing system could possibly work, when it doesn't work for car drivers.

  • @worsenary1449
    @worsenary1449 Рік тому +20

    Don't expect Khan to do anything about it. They don't stop at red lights, let alone a zebra.

  • @MegaMrmorris
    @MegaMrmorris Рік тому +45

    Looks like the cycle lane is transporting more people than the road. This makes a good case for more and better provision for cyclists that doesn't put them in conflict with pedestrians.

    • @jaylondon8354
      @jaylondon8354 Рік тому +1

      It's only busy between 7 till 9am and from 5 till 7pm. Rest of the time its uber, deliveroo and just eat cyclist and some cases mopeds

    • @daiweston7846
      @daiweston7846 Рік тому +6

      @Jay London doesn't that mean it's working?
      Drivers kick off saying cyclists shouldn't use the road as they cause congestion, cyclists are clearly using them in rush hour and they are also taking delivery drivers off the road.
      Seems like a win all around to me, it just needs better safety management.

    • @freddieclark
      @freddieclark Рік тому +7

      @@daiweston7846 No, it just needs cyclists to follow the highway code, something that many of them completely ignore.

    • @20quid
      @20quid Рік тому

      @@freddieclark Evidence?

    • @mikewade777
      @mikewade777 Рік тому

      @@freddieclark beings faster and less likely to be stuck on a congested road isn't ignoring the HWC.

  • @Owl54321
    @Owl54321 Рік тому +26

    I think these crossings would be confusing for a cyclist. If I was directed onto this cycle way I would slow down because of pedestrians but I’m not sure I would identify the zebra crossing as such. Two strips obscured by traffic, no beacons.

    • @nsturgeon7145
      @nsturgeon7145 Рік тому +4

      Zebra crossings or not, cyclists should be aware of their surroundings and be mindful of other people.

    • @ditch3827
      @ditch3827 Рік тому

      There are beacons

    • @entx8491
      @entx8491 Рік тому +2

      ​@@nsturgeon7145 that has nothing to do with what he said.

    • @jamesbond7648
      @jamesbond7648 Рік тому +1

      @@nsturgeon7145 cyclists suddenly becomes dumb when they cycle. They don’t know what’s traffic lights and zebra crossings looks like.

    • @nsturgeon7145
      @nsturgeon7145 Рік тому +1

      @@jamesbond7648 spot on there

  • @orchid6789
    @orchid6789 Рік тому +10

    It's the same on Leith Walk, Edinburgh. Utter carnage.

    • @ColinRoss-tp6dd
      @ColinRoss-tp6dd Рік тому +1

      another city of entitlement. Its to be expected in places of such low morals

  • @michaelsaunders6923
    @michaelsaunders6923 Рік тому +7

    What pratt dsigned this? logistics dont even come into this! FFS

  • @cameronallan5624
    @cameronallan5624 Рік тому +3

    Such killer crossings so much so that 5 people per day are seriously injured or killed on these crossings thanks to deadly cyclists.
    Oh wait, that’s cars.
    If people actually got hurt I would take this news article with some credibility, but they rarely do.

  • @lorgus100
    @lorgus100 Рік тому +24

    Cyclists: We didn’t ask for this!!
    TFL: We know, but we need to endanger pedestrians, we can’t ask drivers to be more aware when driving around buses!

    • @Dreadthfull
      @Dreadthfull Рік тому +1

      Cyclists are the ones endangering peds :)

  • @daiweston7846
    @daiweston7846 Рік тому +9

    In Cardiff the cycle lanes have their own traffic lights, this is just ridiculous as they are not really visible with no signs!

    • @andyisabeast7782
      @andyisabeast7782 Рік тому

      There as visible as most zebra crossings

    • @daiweston7846
      @daiweston7846 Рік тому +5

      @Andy isabeast i disagree as a zebra crossing is the width of a road with 2 lanes, the cycle lane is wide enough for a bike so less chance for it to visibly register.
      A zebra crossing also has flashing lights either side of the road to highlight to road users they are approaching a zebra crossing. It's dangerous not to put the same safety features in place in such a built up area, it's poor safety management for both the public on foot and the bicycle rider.

    • @pizou8454
      @pizou8454 Рік тому

      The cycle lanes in Central London do have traffic lights. I'm guessing this will be rolled out across the country.

    • @mikewade777
      @mikewade777 Рік тому

      @@andyisabeast7782 without lightpoles these definitely aren't Zebra crossings.

    • @QiuEnnan
      @QiuEnnan 9 місяців тому

      I never had any problems with them when cycling in London - I thought they were clear.

  • @TheTraveller20081
    @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому +12

    Road-size zebra stripes, but no road-style zig-zags and no signs. So why be surprised when riders don't recognise them as zebra crossings? Use smaller stripes so that more of them fit across the path, and paint signs on the surface on the approach, then look again at compliance.

    • @ianholloway3778
      @ianholloway3778 Рік тому +2

      I don't think the half size zig-zags are in the current Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016. They were in the previous regs for crossings. I agree that better approach markings are needed as there aren't enough zebra stripes to register the 'must give way to pedestrians' response. In the old TSRGD they did change the meaning of the standard (half-size double give way markings) to include giving way to pedestrians, so if it still means that they could use the double dashed line and a painted give way triangle. Low level Belisha beacons would help but are expensive, but black and white bollards with a reflective orange disc would help alert cyclists. Blue signs with white text saying 'Give way to pedestrians' would be legal.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      @Ian Holloway agreed, the signs&lines code needs to provide for new ways of using the roads, it's always behind the curve. It's not just a UK problem, the same exists I know in NZ. Innovation is often required but the machinery of permitting and legalising it is always too slow.
      Until then it's the toss-up between designing something effective - and cost-effective - vs something heavy-handed but conforming to the inadequate rules.

    • @ianholloway3778
      @ianholloway3778 Рік тому +2

      I've checked the regs and it's legal to use the half-size double dashed give way lines and white give way triangle which on cycle tracks mean 'give to any person including pedestrians'. The zebra stripes can be as narrow as 400mm.

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan Рік тому +11

    Wow, that was a terrible design.

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 7 місяців тому

      There is not really anything better other than stopping the bike lane for a bus stop which is dangerous, unloading passengers onto a bike line which is dangerous or segregating the crossing for passengers (the island bus stop) which is the safer for all modes.

  • @DaveNewman1959
    @DaveNewman1959 Рік тому +13

    They're not cycle paths, They're psycho paths 😂

  • @gerarddavies1344
    @gerarddavies1344 Рік тому +3

    Blindfold Mr. Khan & ask him to cross to the bus stop. See how long they last after he gets hit.

  • @tahaali2732
    @tahaali2732 Рік тому +3

    I've cycled through Mile End and Whitechapel many times, and I've stopped before these zebra crossings if I sensed that a pedestrian wanted to cross. I know some other cyclists stop at these too, but just wish all other cyclists did.

  • @20quid
    @20quid Рік тому +2

    Just ban cars from London and there will be more than enough space for everyone to get around safely. It'll make the city a much nicer place too, cars and drivers ruin things for us normal folk.

    • @tpilot_error404
      @tpilot_error404 Рік тому +1

      Learn about the history of cities. Get the pedestrians back to the country!

  • @tazuk01
    @tazuk01 Рік тому +2

    Cyclists just need to stop for pedestrians, simple really.

  • @richardleach4179
    @richardleach4179 Рік тому +8

    The issue is also markings. Rumble strips before the crossing should make enough noise for those visually impaired. These are safer than a cyclist going around a bus.
    Car Vs cyclist or cyclist Vs pedestrian.

  • @grahamstevenson1740
    @grahamstevenson1740 Рік тому +1

    Can't say I'm surprised. Cyclists give me the impression they're very 'entitled' AND selfish.

  • @pippippin1854
    @pippippin1854 Рік тому +12

    When the bus pulls up there should be a barrier that come down in front of the cyclists, like a rail crossing until everyone is off the bus safely

    • @TOMTOM-nh3nl
      @TOMTOM-nh3nl Рік тому +5

      Yes with bubble wrap for more SAFeTy

    • @richardschofield2201
      @richardschofield2201 Рік тому +2

      Sounds cheap

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 Рік тому +1

      Or just a red light (LEDs are cheaper). Then the rest of the time let the cyclists have priority.

    • @sand0decker
      @sand0decker Рік тому +3

      Or, and hear me out on this, people can be just more mindful. A bicycle isn't going that fast amd should be able to stop. A pedestrian can either move at a normal pace or wait a second if unable. The cyclist should also assume the people unloading off the bus will walk directly out and behave accordingly.
      This is being hard is really confusing as a not-European

  • @ponypruhest
    @ponypruhest Рік тому +15

    In Copenhagen Denmark the cyclists has priority whenever there is a floating bus stop, however if the bus stops right next to the cycle path such that pedestrians step directly in and out to or from the cycle path, then the pedestrians has priority IF there is a bus and the bus is stopped.

    • @boossersgarage3239
      @boossersgarage3239 Рік тому +4

      that's f'd up.

    • @ponypruhest
      @ponypruhest Рік тому +5

      @@boossersgarage3239 Why? it's the same as when pedestrians cross a street. Caveat, we do NOT have zebra crossings between floating bus stops and the side walk - why would we?

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 Рік тому +11

      That's the most sensible thing anyone here has said.
      It makes no sense to have pedestrian priority unless there is a bus there.

    • @thomaspynchon2871
      @thomaspynchon2871 Рік тому +1

      @@ponypruhest Because your country is viciously anti pedestrian.

    • @Dreadthfull
      @Dreadthfull Рік тому +3

      Giving priority to cyclists is stupid. He's not the most vulnerable road user, pedestrians are. What a poor design Denmark has.

  • @JT-nr2ss
    @JT-nr2ss Рік тому +2

    This is what happens when people who walk, bike or take PT are given the crumbs of public space, while people in cars completely dominate the transport network both physically and financially.
    UK budget for car-oriented for the next 5 years: ~ 27 billion
    For walking and cycling for the forseeable future: ~ 0.2 billion, down from 0.4

  • @williamcoulter5462
    @williamcoulter5462 Рік тому +2

    I took part in the trials for these at TRL Bracknell and they were told then that they would not work as cyclists would not stop it looks like we got over ruled and they did it anyway after we said it was dangerous so what was the point of spending thousands on trials just to ignore the findings TFL just ignored the results so any injuries are down to them.

    • @acceleratedsloth
      @acceleratedsloth Рік тому

      There is nothing requiring a cyclist or any other vehicle to stop at a zebra crossing for a pedestrian waiting to cross

    • @bjorndunderbeck
      @bjorndunderbeck Рік тому

      @@acceleratedsloth traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing ( but) Drivers and riders should give way to pedestrians waiting to cross and MUST give way to pedestrians on a zebra crossing

  • @donkarnage6032
    @donkarnage6032 Рік тому +6

    Brilliant city planning as usual…

  • @ga5712
    @ga5712 Рік тому +3

    Firstly as they're zebra crossings the cyclists SHOULD be stopping!
    Secondly the new road user priority states the most vulnerable have priority so again they should be stopping.
    I bet these cyclists are the same ones that complain car drivers drive too close to them!
    I say stick a copper or two on some of these roads for a week or so to enforce it!

    • @russell5791
      @russell5791 Рік тому +1

      Point is they are not zebra crossings, as they don't have belisha beacons, so does the cyclist have priority in this situation ?

    • @ianholloway3778
      @ianholloway3778 Рік тому +2

      They are legally zebra crossings in this form if on a cycle track and cyclists have to give way to anyone crossing and the Highway Code requires them to give way to those waiting to cross too. The 2016 regs (TSRGD) removed the requirements for zig-zags, give way lines and Belisha beacons

    • @thomaspynchon2871
      @thomaspynchon2871 Рік тому

      @@russell5791 WRONG.

    • @thomaspynchon2871
      @thomaspynchon2871 Рік тому

      @@ianholloway3778 Correct, cyclists are liars.

    • @talkshitko9234
      @talkshitko9234 Рік тому

      Most vulnerable shouldn't have most priority .That's why is going wrong.
      Vehicles should have priority and pedestrians and bicycles should wait till it's safe to cross.

  • @jojoyoung2803
    @jojoyoung2803 Рік тому +8

    These bike lanes are far more worse than when the cyclists were on the road: Total chaos !

  • @Raven-ey7mt
    @Raven-ey7mt Рік тому +13

    Many (but not all) cyclist don't even obey road rules (ignoring No entry signs, no turning signs even traffic lights) especially younger cyclists and scooter riders. They also hop on and off pavements

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 Рік тому +9

      Many car drivers ignore the rules and speed, tailgate, run red lights, park on the pavement etc.
      Many pedestrians glued to their phones step out without looking.
      What's your point?
      Look, there are narcissists who act in their own self interest against the common good REGARDLESS OF MODE OF TRANSPORT.

    • @MummaBear
      @MummaBear Рік тому +2

      I hate it when cyclists cross a zebra crossing on their bikes 😡

    • @unelectedbureaucrat2003
      @unelectedbureaucrat2003 Рік тому +1

      I ignore the signs and laws to get out of the way of cars, I'm basically doing drivers a favour.

    • @Perseus7567
      @Perseus7567 Рік тому +3

      @@sergarlantyrell7847 His point being is that car drivers often get caught, via camera or police.
      Cyclists tend to get a free pass because "they're cycling".

    • @ianholloway3778
      @ianholloway3778 Рік тому

      I didn't much like it the other day when the bus failed to stop at the zebra crossing I was at clearly waiting to cross at...

  • @jigglesti
    @jigglesti Рік тому +1

    Cyclists, biggest hypocrites on the road.

  • @philipdurling1964
    @philipdurling1964 Рік тому +8

    Perhaps Bolisha Beacons also need to be installed on the Zebra crossings. Failing that maybe a Pelican crossing may be a better option.

    • @drummerjo571
      @drummerjo571 Рік тому +7

      Yeah, let's waste more taxpayer money on more infrastructure for them to ignore.

    • @occamraiser
      @occamraiser Рік тому +6

      or retracting tyre spikes that pop up when a pedestrian claims his right of way? - that or water cannon perhaps.

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 Рік тому +3

      Or just have cycling priority?
      Unless there is a bus at the stop, it's not like it makes any difference to the pedestrians if they stand 1m further away from where the bus will be... In several mins time.
      They have several minutes to cross at their leisure and it doesn't matter.
      It makes much more sense (ie more efficient) to let the cyclists just carry on through till a bus actually arrives.

    • @ponypruhest
      @ponypruhest Рік тому +1

      @@sergarlantyrell7847 Even if there is a stopped bus at the floating bus stop, cyclists should still have priority. It is only when there is a stopped bus at a place with no floating bus stop that the pedestrians should have priority.

    • @nsturgeon7145
      @nsturgeon7145 Рік тому

      ​@@ponypruhestin an ideal world that is how they are supposed to work especially with changes to the highway code.

  • @jacquelinetaylor8683
    @jacquelinetaylor8683 Рік тому +13

    It needs a series of speed bumps leading up to the crossings and stop for crossings to be marked on the cycle way. Otherwise the lycra louts won't stop. Cyclist are becoming the new thugs of the road.

    • @chrissyj.6783
      @chrissyj.6783 Рік тому

      Lycra louts? I didn't see a single rider in Lycra, in that video.
      If those pedestrians looked where they were walking, cyclists might have a bit more respect for them.

    • @Perseus7567
      @Perseus7567 Рік тому +1

      @@chrissyj.6783 If cyclists didn't run red lights and actually abided by traffic laws, car drivers might have more respect for them.
      Guess that ain't happening.

    • @petergibson7287
      @petergibson7287 2 місяці тому

      @@Perseus7567 If car drivers didn't run red lights, stop signs, give way signs, speed, drive drunk, drive whilst looking at their phone and texting, tailgate, drive aggressively, park illegally and actually abided by traffic laws, then car drivers might have respect for each other.
      Bicycle riders and pedestrians will never have respect for them; they are all dangerous lunatics.
      So that ain't happening.

  • @thefattysplace
    @thefattysplace Рік тому +1

    Sorry but cyclists have to obey the rules of the road just like everyone else. All of these 'entitled' cyclists not allowing a waiting pedestrian to cross should be fined on the spot, with their bones being seized on repeat offence. The zebra crossing is pretty clear and they should be cycling with due care. TFL isn't the problem, the rude and obnoxious cyclists are. If they have time to ring a bell, they have time to stop. These sort of cyclists would also too through a red light of one were installed.

  • @badgerservices9665
    @badgerservices9665 Рік тому +3

    Why are these cyclists not following the rules? Highest risk gets priority, which is a pedestrian.

    • @thomaspynchon2871
      @thomaspynchon2871 Рік тому

      @Nature's Eye Meditations LIAR.

    • @GTMarmot
      @GTMarmot Рік тому

      ​@@natureseyemeditationsYou've been repeating utterly wrong and ignorant nonsense in your comments.

  • @Elldeeve
    @Elldeeve Рік тому +4

    It’s not a zebra crossing. It has no zig zag lines on approach and no flashing orange lights on black and white striped poles.

  • @fabiennemitchell2371
    @fabiennemitchell2371 Рік тому +14

    It also affects the normal unassuming passenger who regularly have to navigate dangerous cyclists.

    • @frisianmouve
      @frisianmouve Рік тому +2

      As opposed to the completely harmless fast moving metal boxes that cause the vast majority of traffic deaths?

  • @kurtphilly
    @kurtphilly Рік тому +6

    This is just a horrible design flaw. This shouldn’t be blamed on cyclist specifically. Pedestrian traffic and bike traffic should not impede one another within a confined space, such as this example.

    • @Dreadthfull
      @Dreadthfull Рік тому +2

      We should 100% blame the cyclists. Why don't we blame the more dangerous road users that are endangering pedestrians? Cyclists are supposed to stop or slow down. If they don't, they are 100% wrong. Why does it seem so hard for people to realize cyclists can also be entitled asshats?

    • @kurtphilly
      @kurtphilly Рік тому +1

      How many pedestrians have been killed when hit by a cyclist? The most dangerous road users are vehicles. Of course cyclists can be asshats. Sometimes they don’t stop or slow down, which the same can be said for vehicle traffic as well. This isn’t even debatable. This isn’t a binary issue, everyone can do better.

    • @mbords01
      @mbords01 Рік тому

      By listening to this young man, I am confident that cyclists all around the world must stop for pedestrians, also those with aid such as cane, walkers, or electric wheelchair. Cyclists need to watch for these cross signs and stop or walk the bike!

  • @stuartgillies1327
    @stuartgillies1327 Рік тому +5

    Why not drivers ignore everything 🙄

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 Рік тому +3

      Yes, I find that funny. Car drivers speed all the time and rarely does anyone bat an eyelid.
      But a cyclist trundles through a zebra crossing at 12mph and suddenly it's the worst thing ever! wor

  • @richardleach4179
    @richardleach4179 Рік тому +9

    These are a great idea, the ignorance of the cyclist is the problem.
    They should all be stopping, pedestrians take priority. Simple.

  • @safirahmed
    @safirahmed Рік тому +4

    Pedestrian crossing with priority for pedestrians and fines for cyclists who don't prioritise pedestrians at bus stops.

    • @acceleratedsloth
      @acceleratedsloth Рік тому +1

      Nothing like a pedestrian crossing with a pedestrian priority exists in the UK

  • @michaela.abbott222
    @michaela.abbott222 Рік тому +2

    Their moral imperative will creating a feeding frenzy amongst themselves….

  • @TOMTOM-nh3nl
    @TOMTOM-nh3nl Рік тому +2

    YEs YES at a GREAT Speed of nots

  • @beijingpete
    @beijingpete Рік тому +11

    The cops should be issuing tickets to the cyclists. They are road users, and are supposed to comply with the highway code; it's purely selfish and dangerous behaviour by a large number of cyclists.

  • @roboko6618
    @roboko6618 Рік тому +7

    Can I just say look at the sheer volume of people moving through that cycle lane, compared to the number of people the road is moving next to them. I admit the cyclists behaviour is not great. But it's to be expected from a nation that does not yet have an established bike culture. We need some enforcement and I also think the crossing might be hard to spot for cyclists too - Especially if behind another cyclist.

    • @josephmarshall9434
      @josephmarshall9434 Рік тому +1

      So let's not put any responsibility on the cyclists to stick to the laws of the road???as most of them don't....🤔start fining them as motorists get fined!!!!!!!!!!

    • @TheCinderellaman10
      @TheCinderellaman10 Рік тому

      And also how do cyclists get fined when they hit vehicles causing damage as not stopping at a give way, zebra crossing or lights. They hot vehicles knock off the side mirror and ride off then without looking turn right fall on top of a vehicle causing the windscreen to crack in more then 1 place, cause bonnet and wing damage, then get up and ride off when the driver has been left on the road with a damaged or even a write off. Yes I have seen 2 of these incidents happen whilst I've been walking from work. The cyclist will get away and motorist has to pay up himself, insurance will then raise his premiums if they go through insurance and then leave them without a vehicle and cause them much distress.

    • @TheCinderellaman10
      @TheCinderellaman10 Рік тому

      There's plenty of crossings like these on cycle lanes. So are cyclists always riding up each others back side? That's safe also isn't it? That's done in the tour de France, that's racing just like drivers driving so close behind another vehicle

  • @steveprice9737
    @steveprice9737 Рік тому +1

    Bikes should be on the road but this is too dangerous for many riders due to crap drivers and the obsession with traffic moving at 30mph, where mostly the average is less than the average speed of the bikes , its just the bits where drivers can accelerate hard . Obviously junctions are particularly dangerous.

  • @charlo90952
    @charlo90952 Рік тому +3

    Cyclists don't like to stop because of slow acceleration on restart. Dutch cycle lanes are designed to minimize bike stopping. But this London problem is tricky. I guess there needs to be some kind of automatic signal triggered by the bus. But it's a good problem to have. As bike riding continues to increase to where it's the dominant use of the road it will be prioritized over other uses.

    • @Dreadthfull
      @Dreadthfull Рік тому +1

      It's not a good problem to have. What the f. How about cyclists just stop?? Who cares about the slow restart? These pedestrians are already slow and are slowed down EVEN more due to these entitled cyclists. This way of thinking reeks of cyclist entitlement.

    • @charlo90952
      @charlo90952 Рік тому

      @@Dreadthfull Watch some videos by Not Just Bikes to see how the Dutch handle such problems.

    • @Dreadthfull
      @Dreadthfull Рік тому

      @@charlo90952 lmao, that privileged dumbass? No thanks.

  • @scottcaine4514
    @scottcaine4514 Рік тому +9

    Most of these comments suggest implementing other physical features to the crossing/lane such as barriers or lights or bumps. The zebra crossing is already there, it needn't require any more added to it, it should already be being obeyed by these ignorant cyclists.

    • @thomaspynchon2871
      @thomaspynchon2871 Рік тому +1

      @Nature's Eye Meditations WRONG, READ TSRGD AND DON'T TELL LIES.

  • @dereknicol5284
    @dereknicol5284 Рік тому +1

    A crutch in the front wheel will stop them.

    • @mikewade777
      @mikewade777 Рік тому

      and result in injury and compensation from the crutch owner.

    • @dereknicol5284
      @dereknicol5284 Рік тому +1

      @@mikewade777 Ive never heard of a car driver successfully suing a pedestrian that theyve hit on a zebra crossing, i doubt a cyclist would stand much chance either.

  • @craigrothwell6144
    @craigrothwell6144 Рік тому +1

    Poor people getting in the way of other poor people :)

  • @Nick_G7IZR
    @Nick_G7IZR Рік тому

    Puts non Londoners at risk who wouldn't be expecting it!

  • @Echopropylene
    @Echopropylene 6 місяців тому +1

    Simple solution: Remove the zebra crossing markings

  • @louise6395
    @louise6395 Рік тому

    Not very clear is it?

  • @charlesbaker7505
    @charlesbaker7505 Рік тому +6

    What I’ll never understand is, why are cyclists so adamant to never stop for people, always trying to swerve around or just zoom past, I mean slowing down for 3 seconds is not gonna ruin your journey

    • @tommanley2924
      @tommanley2924 Рік тому +3

      Ever ride a bike?

    • @JohnnyWednesday
      @JohnnyWednesday Рік тому +3

      Because they say things like "It's tiring to keep on stopping" while ignoring the fact they're the ones that CHOSE to use a vehicle.

    • @flatturdphd2066
      @flatturdphd2066 Рік тому

      They have some issue about attending a few mins later

    • @se-kmg355
      @se-kmg355 Рік тому +1

      We can ask the same about many motorists.

  • @llyottpresentsweirdtales
    @llyottpresentsweirdtales 9 місяців тому

    As a cyclist and a pedestrian, I find this site utterly ridiculous! First time there, I was nearly hit by a cyclist because I was unaware that I was even in a cycle lane. On a bike, I would not want to have to stop at virtually every bus stop! A safer thing for cyclist, and pedestrians, would be to widen the road- Whitechapel pavement is a very broad one but I think they have market stalls on some days...

  • @alanchase7329
    @alanchase7329 3 місяці тому

    Need to do a "cycling Micky" copy and stand their stopping cyclists, video recording them and contacting the police.

  • @ljhm6816
    @ljhm6816 Рік тому +1

    Cyclist's get angry quickly and explosively at anyone who.......
    Now, we, the pedestrian, should stand up for our safety from cyclists who ignore red lights and zebra crossings, pavement spaces for pedestrians and many other law's. A annual bicycle tax would help pay for safety measures, to protect pedestrians and cyclists

    • @New-ye2fl
      @New-ye2fl Рік тому +1

      Cyclists get angry quickly? Rightfully so, anyone who cycles on the roads in the U.K. would understand why, we’ve easily some of the worst / most entitled drivers their is, it’s like we spent years giving out licences in cereal boxes

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 7 місяців тому

      @@New-ye2fl 😂Yeah UK drivers really suck. It's hard not to find a bad driver!

  • @Glasguensis
    @Glasguensis Рік тому +11

    Cyclists are the biggest single danger to pedestrians - going through red lights, riding on the pavement, generally reckless conduct. A disabled friend was recently run over by a cyclist on the pavement and quite seriously hurt. When will the police and authorities take this plague of dangerous cycling in hand?

    • @TOMTOM-nh3nl
      @TOMTOM-nh3nl Рік тому

      YES all while paddling

    • @thecoffinator3737
      @thecoffinator3737 Рік тому +5

      cars are probably worse

    • @flatturdphd2066
      @flatturdphd2066 Рік тому +1

      ​@@thecoffinator3737 no

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      Absolute codswallop. Look up how many pedestrians are killed each year by people driving cars, and by people riding bikes, then try saying that again with a straight face...

    • @flatturdphd2066
      @flatturdphd2066 Рік тому

      @Beater Bike Channel MFGA that they ride bikes

  • @mohammedmuthir4671
    @mohammedmuthir4671 Рік тому +1

    The department of transport laughs at disabled people. I should ask them for the recording when they laughed at me for reporting heavy bicycles left in the middle of pavement. He actually laughed and hanged the phone up. That was a sign for me that day to give up the fight. Unfortunately it’s the disabled and less able bodied people that will suffer. Such a sad situation. The decline of this society in all aspects of life truly shines.

    • @mbords01
      @mbords01 Рік тому

      take their name and report; if not ask them their name directly, I would!

  • @stevesecret2515
    @stevesecret2515 5 місяців тому

    The cyclists treat pedestrians like drivers treat cyclists and pedestrians.

  • @ZQQHello1919rty
    @ZQQHello1919rty Рік тому +3

    Cyclists don’t understand road signs, they don’t have driving license.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому +2

      90% of them do have driving licences, they just choose to do everyone a favour by not adding to congestion by driving.

    • @Perseus7567
      @Perseus7567 Рік тому

      @@TheTraveller20081 A favour? Most cyclists are a bane of everyone else's existance. Pedestirans, cars, hell even helicopters probably find them annoying. A vast majority think that because they're on a bike (saving the environment, easing congestion, whatever excuse they justify it with) they are automatically correct in everything, and never have to observe the same rules as they should have priority.

  • @murphychris9811
    @murphychris9811 Рік тому

    no hope for london

  • @itsonlyme9938
    @itsonlyme9938 Рік тому +1

    Needs signs putting up

  • @mathew85
    @mathew85 Рік тому +2

    Like this in the us to, cyclists not obeying traffic laws , blowing stop signs and red lights.

  • @whichypoohs
    @whichypoohs Рік тому

    Shocking

  • @paulsmithcycling5993
    @paulsmithcycling5993 Рік тому

    Pedestrians need to look left then right then left again like my mother used to say, no problem, cross zebra crossings when safe

  • @brandosbucket
    @brandosbucket 4 місяці тому

    I never realised they were mean to stop at them. The idea seems laughable, getting cyclists to stop at anytime, for decency or laws or anything like that. They are on a big metal object with head protection, they wont be hurt if they just keep going.

  • @chrissyj.6783
    @chrissyj.6783 Рік тому +3

    Maybe it's because of those pedestrians who can't tell the difference between the footpath and the cycle lane, that makes some cyclists think 'sod em, I'm not stopping'.
    However the whole concept of these zebra crossings on a cycle lane is flawed. There's no signs or advance markings for them, as you'd find on a full-size crossing. I certainly wouldn't be sure that was actually a crossing point if I hadn't seen it before.

  • @HighFell
    @HighFell 4 місяці тому

    Except the bike path does not have a zebra crossing, it’s just some stripes painted on the road, technically they don’t actually mean anything.
    As a cyclist (12k miles pa) it’s disappointing to see cyclists not paying attention to the volumes of pedestrians though and irrespective of the loony traffic management system. I think this is more indicative of the ‘London mentality’ where everyone thinks they are so important others safety is secondary.

  • @jamesgastovski3184
    @jamesgastovski3184 Рік тому +1

    The humanity!!!

  • @FactsTrumpFeelings.
    @FactsTrumpFeelings. Рік тому

    Give these cyclists an inch, and they’ll take a mile, I just watched a video about sadistic khans right hand man, who got punched by another cyclist, cos he challenged him about not stopping at a zebra crossing! Standards in the uk are dropping hard

  • @khalidacosta7133
    @khalidacosta7133 5 місяців тому

    Never seen a zebra with only two stripes... maybe that's the problem? Also, other issue is that cyclists don't know who is waiting for the bus... and who wants to cross. Poorly planned.

  • @daviddarrenbetts-hollinrak3927
    @daviddarrenbetts-hollinrak3927 5 місяців тому

    It puts all pedestrians at risk.

  • @FlyingAt30000Micrometres
    @FlyingAt30000Micrometres 11 місяців тому

    They're not zebra crossings, zebra crossings have a big amber flashing light on either side of the crossing, they're just a raised bit of tarmac with a bit of paint on it

    • @QiuEnnan
      @QiuEnnan 9 місяців тому

      Wrong, they are legally zebra crossings - the zigzag lines and Belisha beacons are not required on cycle tracks.

  • @gregory3340
    @gregory3340 3 місяці тому

    its a design fault

  • @ibassnote
    @ibassnote Рік тому

    This is clearly never going to work. It’s not a popular point to make but it is also hazardous for cyclists. Probably the answer is actually a tunnel that goes underneath major crossings so there is no meeting of bikes and pedestrians. I understand the anger at cyclists but this is as much an engineering flaw as anything else.

  • @beaufighter245
    @beaufighter245 Рік тому +1

    Cyclists must have a way of being identified, as are motor vehicles. Insurance too and a contribution towards road fund.
    Unfortunately, it does appear a majority of cyclists that have no regard to pedestrian safety and have an arrogance that their mode of transport elevates them to a higher plane.

  • @akuababez
    @akuababez Рік тому +2

    i think the problem is how fast the superhighways are, i regularly use cs2 (shown here) and while i do try to stop where i can, it would probably cause a cycle crash if someone stopped especially with the number of cyclists there are at rush hour. the cycle lanes are simultaneously slow and fast (due to all the traffic lights on route) but a suitable solution to this would probably installing mini traffic lights that pedestrians can push similar to a puffin, this would reduce a lot of the risk for blind and less able pedestrians but also make cyclists more inclined to stop. again, as someone who cycles and walks this route regularly, it has a lot of benefits but this is probably the major drawback

  • @DezorianGuy
    @DezorianGuy Рік тому +5

    Bycicles should banned from cities. They pose a threat to pedestrians and cars alike.

    • @olddeuteranomaly5112
      @olddeuteranomaly5112 Рік тому +1

      Nope. It's the cars that are a threat to pedestrians and cyclists, and they're always in the way, and the the air pollution they cause is a threat everyone.

    • @flatturdphd2066
      @flatturdphd2066 Рік тому +1

      ​@Old Deuteranomaly incorrect, but thanks for playing

    • @DezorianGuy
      @DezorianGuy Рік тому +1

      @@olddeuteranomaly5112 Wouldn't casualties be reduced if less cyclists were roaming the streets? Cars are far safer to travel with. Check the insurance statistics. 75% of accidents happen with involvement of cyclists! If they disappeared many problems would be solved. A no brainier.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Рік тому

      ​@@DezorianGuy utter nonsense. The vast majority of crashes everywhere involve cars, bikes are in a tiny proportion of crashes

  • @outlaw6421
    @outlaw6421 Рік тому +4

    It's in HC ,everyone has to give way to pedestrians.

    • @sshep86
      @sshep86 Рік тому +4

      It doesn't. Vehicles must yield to a pedestrian crossing the street (on the crossing), but not pedestrians waiting at a crossing.

    • @NUTTER8291
      @NUTTER8291 Рік тому +1

      They ONLY have to stop if it has flashing orange lights next to it ....
      NO LIGHTS .. NO STOP !!!

    • @ditch3827
      @ditch3827 Рік тому

      @@NUTTER8291 There are flashing orange lights next to it - look again

    • @acceleratedsloth
      @acceleratedsloth Рік тому

      No, nobody is required to yield to pedestrians waiting to cross

    • @thomaspynchon2871
      @thomaspynchon2871 Рік тому

      @@acceleratedsloth Liar.

  • @greenone41
    @greenone41 Рік тому +4

    Those bikers would have issues when I'm crossing there🤣

    • @greenone41
      @greenone41 Рік тому +2

      @beaterbikechannelmfga2538 I am the bike lane now!

    • @New-ye2fl
      @New-ye2fl Рік тому

      @@greenone41 you’d be quickly booted the side pablo

  • @mykota2417
    @mykota2417 Рік тому +3

    Highway code right of way behaviour needs implimenting

    • @mykota2417
      @mykota2417 Рік тому

      @@jav.611 the latest hwc states pedestrians take precedent n all vehicles should give way to pedestrians. Some are just rules and guidance some are law directives.

  • @ThankYouAndHello
    @ThankYouAndHello Рік тому +1

    Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Drivers and riders should give way to pedestrians waiting to cross and MUST give way to pedestrians on a zebra crossing (see Rule H2).

    • @kurtphilly
      @kurtphilly Рік тому +2

      This is a design flaw. Just like the width of a road that dictates the rate of speed it is comfortable to drive. Requiring bikes and pedestrians to interact in a tight space is just dangerous. The cyclists need a separate lane that minimizes any conflict with the bus route and those entering and exiting the bus.

  • @DrivingPsychology
    @DrivingPsychology Рік тому +1

    It isn't clearly marked at all. No zig zag lines, no yellow lights. Just show how ignorant the planners and engineers at TfL are. No practical experience.

  • @Madmark50484
    @Madmark50484 Рік тому

    Surely not them road law abiding cyclists who do no wrong im shocked

  • @Jamesyahyah
    @Jamesyahyah Рік тому +1

    Walking stick through the forks works wonders

  • @MattyBrad
    @MattyBrad Рік тому

    They need to put a bridge across

  • @sergarlantyrell7847
    @sergarlantyrell7847 Рік тому +5

    There's no bus there most of the time, why are they making these crossings pedestrian priority?
    All that achieves is the cyclists have to slow down and waste energy for a pedestrian to get 1m closer to the road only to stop and wait there.
    Fair enough if there is a bus at the stop, have a traffic light or something, but for all other times it make much more sense for it to be cycling priority. That would be much more efficient and safe.

  • @freddieclark
    @freddieclark Рік тому +3

    Well, considering they ignore traffic lights, did anyone really expect anything different?

  • @stuartgillies1327
    @stuartgillies1327 Рік тому +4

    Absolutely everything is unpoliced

  • @dipapatel6381
    @dipapatel6381 Рік тому +4

    They don’t stop at a red light.. and they don’t stop for people..

    • @GTMarmot
      @GTMarmot Рік тому

      ​@@natureseyemeditationsYes they do, mostly

  • @mrhoneystinger3676
    @mrhoneystinger3676 Рік тому +1

    Sadiq is showing is flexing his galaxy brain once again.

  • @declangaming24
    @declangaming24 Рік тому

    Put flashing orange lights that blind them

  • @TheTimmyUK
    @TheTimmyUK Рік тому

    Probably designed by someone who would never use it! Dangerous for both pedestrians and cyclists.

  • @benkennington8941
    @benkennington8941 5 місяців тому

    Blind people... cannot hear??! Hear a lot better than most of us! 0:54-56

  • @eileenemmins5875
    @eileenemmins5875 4 місяці тому +1

    Yet another one of KHANS stupid ideas and lots more to come 😂

  • @SimonCurrey
    @SimonCurrey Рік тому +2

    Campaign for better road design don't portray cyclists as the enemy. As it encourages drivers to be irresponsible.

  • @MiyamotoMusashi9
    @MiyamotoMusashi9 Рік тому +1

    What did Ted kazcinski say about this ... oh yea technology takes each freedom