Men Talk Honestly About Women, Sex, Dating, Marriage, God and Money
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- Jesse Lee Peterson's nonprofit organization, BOND, held its "Seventh Annual Conference on Fatherhood and Men" (Jun 18, 2016). This is the panel discussion from that event where men talked candidly and honestly about a variety of issues and challenges facing men.
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I must say, Jesse presents one of the calmest demeanors I have seen in a long time.
He never gets angry or raises his voice. He listens and usually let's people finish their thoughts. And he asks difficult, but honest, direct, concise questions.
You may not agree with all his views, but his motives and clarity reveal hesitations, uncertainties, and ambiguities in his guests.
@@kieransoregaard-utt8 I guess you didn't read my comment very carefully. I said he "PRESENTS". That means, when he's in front of a camera, this is how he behaves.
I don't go to Jesse for moral guidance, orthe answers to life's problems, and he's not my role model. I go to him for mild entertainment.
I made an observation about his actions in the video I'm watching. If you've found him to be of such consequence in your life that you decided to invest more of your time to learn more about him... 👏 Good for you.
You're right about everything except for one thing. He NEVER lets people finish talking. Here he did, but normally he doesn't.
Women fall in love with the idea of marriage not the hard work and sacrifice ...it’s not glamorous as it is on tv
Not just women. Men too
Auset Luceus ouch!!!
Not me. I’m glad I never got brainwashed into marriage like everyone else. It’s a fantasy to me.
@@therealone8628 I agree not just women, all my relationships fell apart because the men had romantic ideals of all sunshine are roses and the slightest disagreement sent them running for the door
@@alexandriacaton2054 no you just got brainwashed into a different even more lonely lifestyle, the fact you say it's a fantasy shows you have no idea what a real marriage is about, my parents have been together for 40 years so far through thick and thin rich or poor and now facing sickness and my loving father nurses my mother while she fights cancer for the second time, ask yourself when you're old and possibly sick do you want to fight it alone or with someone you love and your children by your side
Being able to submit to my husband has been a stress reliever. There are some things as a woman, that I shouldn't be concerned with. My husband has proven that he can lead and can be trusted as he submits to God. He always considers my position and feelings....we pray about it and agree. Marriage can be a beautiful thing. As women we have to be ready to be wives. It requires putting your pride aside on both parts to solidify the relationship.
I can not believe a black women is saying this. We have hope!
@@mylifeisalie6781 We’re out here! Have faith in the Lord
Only one thing, i agree 99.9 %. The 0.1 % we tend to forget is that God looks at marriage, not living together, or anything else. We should know who we are to be ( which is knowing God first), then when we search we will find a husband/wife cause we obey God’s law. Not our carnal minds which is unstable.
@@shaff7016 Amen
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It’s very simple. Both of these guys have assets. If they get Married and subsequently divorced, they lose their assets.
We've got a BINGO!!!
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This is happening more and more because men marry for looks rather than compatibility
Jemimah Kendall i think men have always went for looks or need to be attracted/their type...they say men are visual creatures. The system enables and incentives divorce...technically women don’t need men anymore...should there be a stressful period between both parties then the escape route for a man is one of financial ruin, kicked out the family home and less access to his kids and crazy payments to his ex wife. If the woman leaves she keeps the family house, Keeps the kids and controls access to them, gets paid for being with the kids and for him not to be, probably has more money at her disposal than she ever has, had her weekends off so can go out with friends as that’s his time to have the kids as he works like a nutter all week, and then she could meet a new guy and have the guy live with the kids so she can live happily ever after again with a new man as the old man watches another man play dad with his kids. Intelligent, logical, wise men (nog many of them) see all these cons and just avoid marriage like the plague...without marriage the woman isn’t as incentived to leave as the perks aren’t as a divorce deal for her...it never used to be like this...men used to be needed and they wouldn’t be destroyed in the courts or financially...the state now strong arms and takes the money and resources from the man post divorce and gifts it to the woman...men also used to like having a status (family man etc)..that is destroyed upon marriage. These are just some of the reasons why men have had enough and being far more careful. I am and it’s no wonder men are going MGTOW...Shame really as the women will lose out more in the long run than the man but everyone loses out the man, woman and children and outer family
Marriage is a one way legal obligation from a man to a woman. Fatherhood is not legally recognized. Why would a man want to marry or have children? Women lobbied to change the laws in the 70's to free them from any and all obligations that come with commitment...sickening.
After the statement of putting a black woman down really hurts. My parents both black no mix married for over 30 years. Black women make good wives. It’s ashamed I have to even say that. No matter what a black man says or does I would never make a statement to bring him down. No white Man would say that about a white woman. It’s really sad.
Melissa Slade wrong white men have most definitely throw white women under the bus that's the reason all this feminist bullshit occurs that alot of you black women jumped on the bandwagon.
Black women make just as good as wives is about any other woman would. African American women on the other hand as a collective do not.
Bacardi Jr. Jr. that is definitely not a factual statement. And to categorize A.A. Mothers that way is very racist. And very wrong.
Melissa Slade what’s sad is how true it is. Black women have the lowest marriage rate. Numbers don’t lie.
Jeshurun Its because our men are incarcerated, killed, and other factors that the black woman suffers through with low percentage of men available. We are good women. Society paints another picture and I’m pretty sure you don’t know enough black women or people to realize that. Media has you blind as well.
the idea that marriage is just a piece of paper is silly. it's a business contract as well. I'm not gonna let some women walk away with half of my rib money
"If it wasn't for sex, men wouldn't want any thing to do with the woman. Is that right, doctor?" *awkward 10 second pause*
:D
STUPID MORONIC FOOLS !!!
That is not true for me because for a woman to stay with me I got to be on top qualities . I am going to need more than the treasure(her couchie)
If thats the way a man feels then dont bother just go pay for it and get what want and be done. Dont expect a woman to invest if you wont or at least compromise only in way that both are happy with instead of a one sided relationship and if you cant then move on and don't bother putting yourself thru something you already know is going to happen because its natural and be free from the woman you don't want to invest in or be with...you could just be lonely and getting involved with a mistake
I see how your full knowledge of useful advise. Why waste your time with an attempt to insult instead inform your opinion or facts that you may be able to contribute. You might be extremely smart with a useful perspective. By the I make the best cookies lol. Maybe I am clueless in some areas of life. I am I life long learner always eager to learn more. I might be wasting my time writing this but I believe it’s always worth it to share knowledge and opinions with many and learn from a perspective we never knew. I guess I should thank you for that rude comment because it allowed me to look at how I present myself and grow a little bit more. Maybe you have didn’t ideas, facts, and opinions but your priority was to insults instead of informing were you thought I was wrong and make clear.
"can you smell it" 🐸
A good wife is different to every man. I am a housewife who takes the role as wife seriously. Anything that involves the day to day life cooking, cleaning, doctor appointments,yard work, and anything that makes our house a home. I love it. Our love life is amazing and we are going on 10 years. If I could give advise to a happy marriage it is mutual respect and try doing something everyday that shows your love and appreciation.
today marriage is not about the people in the union, it is registering that with the state. it is contract law.
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The guy on the far right is a MGTOW
He really is
Gary Matlock What that stand for
He knows the shit
@@shamaneikajohnson7117 I wanna know too
MGTOW (”Men Going Their Own Way”) is a way of life which refuses to defer to women in defining the worth of men. Instead, it focuses on positive male aspects, inviting men to go their own way in life.
Single for 17 years and continually improving myself. Just a thoughtful picnic, eating watermelon, chatting, and watching the sunset is simple, yet perfect. It is rare to meet a man putting thought into simple dates to get to know a woman. Dating is so stressful, because males feel they need to put on a show, instead of being authentic. It is easier to be alone. Women have forgotten how to submit and do not understand it does not mean a man has ALL of the control. Things have become so confusing.
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You are correct. I blame all the hype created by media that have raised expectations to the N degree on both sides. If a man dare to be authentic or do something simple he gets labelled cheapskate. Nice to know they are still woman out there that want to know the man not just his assets
Miss Nonya, you spoken true words. These days young women choose to ignore the "Mr right man" and think of it as "No big deal" and put out in their teens and late 20's with the "Big bad boys". Until they reach their 30's and want to settle downwith "Mr right man", that Mr right man no longer there for her. Because he doesn't want it to be "His turn now".
Most of us men turn to MGTOW as we are sick and tired of this b.s that brainwashed young women into, it ruins what held dearly, plus the ALL systems and government support are very on the womans side when it comes to divorce and child custody. She then can leech $600 -$900 a week from the poor bloke for 18 - 25 years.
So love your comment
This is gold.
This video is superb. All the men on this panel ARE real men and have not settled. They're still fighting. I relate 100% to everything they have said. The Doc is worth his weight in gold.
And what does that comment mean, "You've been married to a black woman for 20 years?!". YES that is possible SIR...THERE ARE MILLIONS OF BLACK MEN THAT ARE MARRIED TO BLACK WOMEN FOREVER....wow!
It means most black women are angry, bitter and impossible to live with.
Candace Tuck it also explains why jesse lee is not married
Candace Tuck take it EASY he was just joking omg
KING FUUVULA to every joke there is some sort of truth to it
Triggered 😂
Oh my goodness, we are in big trouble ladies 😒
yes and it hasnt started yet, wait till you realize that at 30 with a job, car, house and money that youll loose to the 21 year old who has nothing but doenst need anything.
its not a womens world anymore unelss you consider women to be gay men with uterus's, essetnailly anything with man in the title has to pay its own way today.
a mans, girls, and boys world today, women not so much unless they actualy have a meaninglful career they love, not a clerk post job like most girls get.
today is the greatest tuneing fork women have ever faced and its going to be made fully aware that women have no perch anymore in life like they used to . this is just starting to dawn on women
John Rencheck even if I had a lot of money I wouldn't even consider sex on a regular basis.
shellyray52 Yep I'm thinking of just dating women.
You better believe it. Things are going to get really ugly really soon thanks to you good little innocent girls. Eventually this will be an epic gender civil war and you fuckers are going to pay for all of the lives you've ruined. You've had your little fantasy "We are better than Men" tea party, now just shut your gossipy trap and pretend Men still give a shit about you. Karma baby, Karma. aka, retribution.
Wow... men are staring to become lovers of themselves like the Bible said.
I would love to be married since my 20's. I learned that it's better to be single and available for the right woman who will love me, than be in a bad relationship and yet not be loved.
Nowadays my attitude is, as long I don't find my soulmate, I'll just enjoy my freedom.
My advice to all of you is to put God First in your life and in your marriage. I have been married for 38 years. To an American. I am a Latina. We make an awesome couple. Marry a woman that will wait until marriage. A perfect one is someone that Loves God First and you second. God bless you all.
Agreed
The "doctor" lost me when he said without sex men wouldn't care about women. I fully disagree. I also find it extremely insulting! I am not a creature of instinct. I enjoy sex as much as any man. But the feeling of being in love and being loved by the most beautiful, amazing woman in the world is 10 times better than sex. The way I feel when i see my wife and daughter taking a nap together is what reminds me of how great life can be. My daughter laughing, my wife smiling. Us going on a walk together. Watching my daughter experience new things, seeing the way my wife looks at me when I read to our daughter.... Sex has nothing on that!!
"Sex has nothing to do with that" but you mention your daughter, which is a by-product of that. If it was a lie, you'd love every woman you meet or every man you meet. Unless it's family or an unattractive woman man wouldn't be with women all like that.
The kind of love you are talking about, how can it exist without sex? The love for your wife (for example) would it still remain strong and last eternally if you and her never had sex, ever? You meet her, you marry her and you live together. No sexual contact in any way whatsoever. Would that "love", last? Please answer with a simple yes or no.
You don't lift weight until your 90, you won't work as hard until 90, you won't get paid as good until 90, etc doesn't mean these things aren't important. The sex gets you to being 90 with that person. Name 1 famous long term sexless relationship....
I went to a hostel in mexico for information and ended up staying and talking with the receptionist (who was female) and sex was never on my mind!
Forest Rivers Well how fucking rude of you
Why not get married? Coz if it doesnt work.. you broke.
Jesse, you're the man. Really insightful video, as always!
The real question is "What makes a "Godly" man?
To quote Dr.Helen Smith:
"Women are told constantly by society that they are 'empowered' and this often translates into a man working, earning a living, helping with the housework and being relegated to the basement while the rest of the family enjoys the entire house. Does he get rewarded for this behavior? No, he is often second to his wife, the kids and even the dog."
From the book "Men on Strike." It's a must-read. amzn.to/2Mf6Al2
LIES!! Women do 95% of the “work” in a marriage and household. Usually, you all choose to escape to your “man cave,” complaining you want to get away from your wife who’s probably just sick of your useless behind!
This video was insightful. We can see that these men are afraid of being taken advantage of, hence why they are still single. It is understandable because now a days people just take advantage of one another, and there’s just no respect. I can see why many men choose not to get married.🤷🏽♀️
That was very insightful for a woman.. keep it up youll find a man that will tolerate you if your words are true
Afraid to get taken advantage of "...
More like sick and tired of getting taken advantage of...
Now don't let that be confused with the traditional married house family life one taking care of external businesses why one takes care of internal businesses... Both are there to lean on each other when times are hard and both are there to enjoy each other when times are good...
I'm confused though I'm not like the rest of these douchebags when a woman comes on to me when I first meet her generally, it doesn't do anything but turn me off it's that easy no I'm good..
I like how everything looks as it is right now no sores or anything
@My Celly Weighs a Ton Alphas are not outlaws sorry but the alpha outlaws you mentioned are actually betas and the fact that you could not tell that means that you are a beta male
I always recommend men marry before 39! For several reasons. TBT single men after 40 come in strange packages. Non-committal, selfish, undesirable or issue-ridden. These guys reflect this perfectly.
Mmmm wonder why they would be cautious.
Mmmm wonder why they would be cautious.
smart men dont get married
Jennylyn Chung absolutely.... it's actually scary
Jenny, You must have hit the wall.
Greetings from Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. You gave me a pleasant afternoon. Great talk, great guest. Thank you.
any one else was left hanging with the meatloaf thing?
I didnt get it either......keep it moving
Yeah! I was wondering the same thing and where he was going with this, but he switch it to the next.
Jesse you've helped me a lot in many ways. i listen to your radio show everyday while I'm at work. I've been living with this pent up anger and sadness inside me because of the lack of a father and a resentment towards my mother. Then you said on the radio that we need to forgive. i am looking for god and hopefully one day i can find him. Great show today too.
God Bless you, man. If you need counseling call my office at 323-782-1980. We can help you.
optic1147 are you a mouse
If the guy on the end wants a quality woman he needs to be a quality man. We attract what we are
I pray that I'll be a blessing to my future husband .
And that he will be a blessing to you!
Best comment I've seen on this tread.
Hey 😏😉
Besides sex and intimacy, what do you have to offer to your future husband?
@@redheart30 virtuous women are rare to find they are like Ruby and diamond so precious.
He dumped that girl in 11th grade because she
wanted him to give her 25 cents for some
bubblegum. LMBO hilarious!
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Yea, but that tells you something about him.
cheap is cheap! lol
+A Ng
It's so cheap she couldn't get/earn it by herself or wait the next day when she could bring it if she had it at home.
A man is never to spend money on a woman, she pay for her own things.
Not finding the right girl? it might be because you are LOOKING, but NOT LISTENING for the right person.
Michæl Gilbert Clements you really think you have made a smart point, dont you?
Hahaha I think he does, but when I read the comment originally I thought, "what?" lol. What a dumbass comment
spot on
kegstand dude, yes he did 💪👍
Hmm, Trying to help, huh? Good luck, with that one.
Oh Lord! No wonder so many women are opting to stay single! One word for y’all... SELFISH
single.. with help from daddy government. Is that empowerment?
Works both ways booboo
Women look for men with money and status and not necessarily the person, women will keep their options open incase something better comes along and drop her man like a bad habit, women want the security of marriage but also have her fun on the side by having affairs, women get bored and decide she wants to take his money and the kids, and we're the selfish ones?
Feminism created these types of men. They are simply reacting to the selfishness in today’s women.
@@byrdmaniacsg2776 bingo
Why are married people not asked why they are married? People ask single people all the time, why are you single? as if there is something wrong with being single, then when they/we say we haven't found the right person or situation we are deemed to have committnent issues. Married people should be asked why they are married. I believe marriage is deemed to be more socially acceptable than singleness, yet there are so many married people that are unfaithful, unhappy and have married several times, So again I say it is important to ask the question why are you married Some people have fallen into it because it is more socially acceptable but they arent happy and don't have the foundational things that make a happy marriage.
MEN , do you think that you need companionship at home ? The very best move that you can make is to get a dog ! and never ever get married ! Also , don not admit that you are the father of the child . You may in fact NOT be the biological father of that child ! The voice of experience here.
How did I find out ? My eldest "son " is a grown up adult. We decided to do DNA testing for tracing our family tree. Imagine my surprise to find out that my son was NOT a blood relation to me !
Im so sorry this happened to you.but at this point,you have gsined a son Im sure yoy love very much
I am so sorry you thought that was your son for 18 - 20 odd years. It must have really fucking hurt! I can't image your pain as I do not have children, and may never have any.
I also feel sorry for the poor lad that must have felt hurt from his lying mother.
adi yaf 🤣🤣🤣
I'm so sorry to hear about that Donald. That must be one of the worst things a woman can do to a man and I can only imagine how devastating it must have been. Given what is at stake and that this is demonstrably common, paternity tests should be made mandatory before a man's name can even be written on a birth certificate let alone be liable for child support. Women should not really have a problem with this, if they are not looking to deliberately deceive anyone then it will simply not affect them in any way other than to cement their relationship further. It would only be put in place to provide checks and balances against those women who would seek to perpetrate the very real crime of paternity fraud, which is surely in the best interests of everyone concerned. It should not even be an issue in this so-called age of 'equality'.
Today, marriage for men is all down side and no upside.
Really? I think men get more out of the relationship
jojomojojones for woman too please believe the money if for his kids he bring into the world woman cannot make kids alone so why do she have to raise them alone after divorce.
The problem with marriage is that people have warped expectations of what marriage is based on tv, movies and celebrity culture. They expect a non-stop thrill ride where everyone envies them, and they get affirmation that they are living "the life".
Great respect for the first dude, his respect to his mother and the way treats is amazing. Great guy
Lots of great humor and open honesty. I loved the show 🙂
Thank you for watching. Glad you liked it.
Why not get married? Today marriage brings nothing for men. Absolutely nothing. Ask the question; what can't a man get in a relationship that he can with that state certificate of marriage? Also, ask the question what are the penalties to men after a marriage fails, especially after ten or twelve years?
Snarge22 it's on u buddy forget everyone else
Snarge22 well said
You should never marry someone who thinks that a marriage can fail. My husband asked me if I would stay friends with him if we got divorced. He has been married once before (she cheated and had a child by someone else during the marriage) and had a long term relationship with a very feminist women afterwards (she used him for money and tricked him into signing away his home). My mindset is that marriage is for life. I told him "no". I said that if I am marrying him it is not because I intend to fail, and that once you are married you look for solutions. There is no exit. We have been married for 10 years, fells like we got married yesterday. We take comfort in each other, knowing that we have to make it work, there is not exit, we are in it for life. We are lucky to have found each other. Marriage is not about falling in love, it is about finding someone with he mindset of never quitting. Not very many people think that way now a days.
One thing is certain. Aint one thing in life that is void of change. I am on my third official relationship and I am happy, happy. When you come to this physical plane, you better grab on to something, hold on tight while it last and savor every moment of fun and love and leave with a smile on your face.
Snarge22
Your second statement is the fundamental reason why women should have never slept with men outside of marriage. The sexual revolution and feminism has done its best to ruin marriage for all.
Chris is an amazing guest. I understand his perspective about women. He understands his role and he stays in his lane. He understands the male female relationship very well. He understands the commitment aspect of relationships and he is not ready to go there, which is better than getting married and being miserable or making another woman miserable.
If you choose marriage, you need a foundation made up besides sex. If you base on sex alone, marriage won't last. My husband is my best friend, provider for our family, lover, partner. I feel for today's single people. Some do want to stay single, but I know those who have the hardest time trying to find a partner to marry. It feels like if someone is dating and find something they don't like in a person, they just move on to the next. It's sad, people aren't perfect. Relationships takes work.
as a gay man with 3 sisters I am very close to, I see no female mystic. I don't understand why these men say that they have a hard time understanding women...Maybe it is really about not understanding what you want and be sure about who you are...
Lost interest when host said you been married to a black women for 20 yrs. What you saying? A black women ain't worth marrying. He's part of the problem.
Actually, you don't see it, because you're gay and women probably tell you the truth, like they tell their girlfriends. They aren't constantly trying to snow you, the way they are with the objects of their desire. But I agree that women aren't all that mysterious, once you take the red pill.
As a straight man with four brothers I don't have a fuckin clue.
@@maragon9462 that was a joke😳😳😳
The first guy has commitment issues and comes across afraid. The last guy is just a player...he's not marriage material anyways. The man in the middles is a mature, healthy man...he's the only man on the panel.
So manhood is tied to having a relationship with a woman. Smdh
So single women are not women?? Ummm...incorrect.
You aren't very bright are you?
Candy Smith I hear this all the time that guys are referd to as real men or not real men but don't think I've ever heard the opposite of being real women or not real women isn't this a bit of a double standard
1greatfinker ofRtimes: I've heard women refer to themselves as a "real woman" in order to imply that another woman is not "real", and therefore is inferior. I've also heard it in terms of trans women. I'm pretty sure I've never heard a man use it against a biological woman.
I like when they think they're being deep and the host has a look like "that's stupid" lol
Women would be so screwed (not in a good way) if all men woke up to their BS and decided to walk away (MGTOW).
marriage invites the state into your relationship. the government should not be involved at all. in no way. no tax crap or anything. just 2 people going before a religious leader or whomever saying I do and they choose to make it happen..... no paperwork none of that crap.
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I agree Isaac. A religious marriage has zero to do with the state or federal government. I've been with my partner for 13 years, we're not legally married. But we are committed to our family. It's difficult to make relationships successful, especially with children. But it's the most important thing in your existence to make your family strong and stay together as a mother, father with children.
I don't know. Maybe even 'going before' anyone is kind of pointless. Even though I am happily married with 12 years behind me, I don't think I would ever do it again.
“You smell it?” Jesse is hilarious hahahah
Jesse, I enjoy listening to what you say, Thanks and be safe!
I'm a William and never asked a man for anything. They were gracious enough to buy me dinner and I always respect that
I had been holding on for years trying to do what was right by my sons But when they got involved with wicked women it destroyed our family literally!! Of course they thought I was jealous but I can see what they cannot see in a female!!!
You are a MOM/WIFE that's why your sons shook you! What you mean you been holding on trying for years trying to do right by your sons WTF!!! LMAO 😂😂😂
That "employee" you hired 10 years ago may now want into someone else's business. She will leave if this is the case and there's nothing you can do about it. Marriage assures nothing but financial responsibility from men towards their "employee".
its a decent analogy. To take it further.... how many businesses still pay the wage of an employee who has left (taking 50% or more of the shares), while they get paid by the new employer too, and make money for the other company. NONE, that's how many. So why does anybody think that this would work in marriage or common law relationships? IT's FUCKED and men ain't playing anymore. High risk, low to no value!
Marriage was created to tie men to their children. Ancient societies and Christianity (in a rare burst of wisdom) realized that successful societies had children raised by both parents, rather than being raised communally.
The laws and conventions around marriage were created before socialism, contraception and abortion. They were designed to protect women from a man leaving, as the women, once they entered a marriage were pretty much committed to having children with him and would find it difficult to find another man willing to support her and another man's children, rather than just finding an unencumbered woman.
Nowadays, with socialism and working mothers, and abortion and contraception there needs to be protection for men who support women, who then leave with or without their kids, and then still get punished for the separation as if the woman was somehow a "victim".
Sadly, what has happened is that men are realizing that marriage is a "Bad Deal" and we now have kids growing up without 2 parents, which is a detriment to society, and the original point of marriage.
Grzegorz - simply not true. Up until the last 100 years women couldn't provide for themselves or protect themselves. Childbirth and child-rearing was very dangerous for both mother and child, and it was a terrible survival strategy for women to abandon their major source of protection and provision. Not only that but only a very rich man, would take in another man's children and waste his protection and provision on them instead of his own.
You are talking about what has happened since motherhood has become optional in a partnership and women who don't want children are struggling to be useful. They expect to be treated like a woman, and given the same respect, but that respect is awarded to them for their child-bearing, not for being a fake man.
If they are not going to have children and be a good wife, then they are expendable, just like unmarried men are.
I disagree. They were just fine providing and surviving by themselves. There was even an island of lesbos where they lived as warriors and hated men. Women were great at farming, cattle and other skills. Many were warriors like the Amazons of the past.
Grzegorz - Lesbos is a complete myth, originating only because Sappho a lesbo-erotic poet was born there.
The Amazons are also mythical.
The funniest thing is that all these Amazons and female warriors are depicted with bows. The stupid thing about this is that it takes strength to pull a bow. Even with super-efficient bows today, women shoot 10% shorter distances. This would mean that in order to get a shot women would have to get 100 yards closer than the men they fought with. This is nonsense.
Have you ever tried to plow a furrow with a horse-pulled plough? Handle a blacksmiths Hammer? Quarry stone? Shear a sheep? Erect Wood buildings and chop wood without power-tools? All these things take a lot more strength and endurance than you imagine in our modern world.
One of the reasons people in colder countries may have evolved more successfully is because, due to the harsher conditions, women were forced to rely on men, and repay them with children, more than in warmer climates.
There is a fine line between being scared to love, being too picky, and settling.
Man, this channel has videos that just chains me and I can't stop watching, AMAZING
I feel lucky to have a perfect husband for me.
Erica Spence yeah, the state.
Miss America feel sorry for him..
nobody cares
@@franciscomonge4930 I'll give her 6 months before she files for divorce. Unless she already did but won't post it....
Yay Miss America, so glad to not be in this crazy dating and culture. What a mess on display in this segment.
1 real reason. Its very expensive when it doesn't work even if he isn't at fault
I think these men are why my Dad made sure none of his children dated outside our religion. Because we as Christian woman know what is expected of us in a marriage and our men know the same.it probably helps to know that divorce is not an option.
I asked my 12 and 14 bnb yr old boys , " Do you boys understand what a woman wants?"
Their answer, " That's impossible mom, all women are different and have their own their brain, just because they have woman parts doesn't mean they are all the same."
Ladies and gentlemen, my teen boys have more sense than some of the men on the panel.
Once they discover the red pill they will awake to what a woman wants and they will find women want everything while bring too little to the table themselves.
Put me on the panel. I'll give you some straight up answers.
amazing video thefallenstate
This conversation was fantastic I really enjoyed myself and I learned a lot thank you very much
Best thing i've seen in a while. Men being men, with honesty, humility, and class. 👏👏
After watching this video I rather stay MGTOW!!!! Im lazy, selfish, and anti-drama. I WANT TO STAY FREE! The guy on the far right is awesome!
I love my freedom!
SKYRULE-49 On behalf of women everywhere, thanks!
@Louie Anderson you kiss your mother with that mouth
@@jemimahkendall6579 I'm going to have a robot maid taking care of me just like the Jetsons.
Sure, it's "just a piece of paper", but it's one which allows her to legally own you and your assets for the rest of your life, even if you have the document voided and the marriage divorced, she will still have a high probability of being automatically granted a portion of your assets.
The financial settlement is usually based on who has brought what to the relationship though right? I mean if the woman bears and raises the children and her career and earning power is stunted as a result, the man has a duty to share his assets with her and to financially support his children. It should be a fair division of assets reflecting both parties contributions in terms of salary, assets and unpaid labour.
Thanks for sharing very informative!!
Loving all this honesty and great questions 😊
Men can be expressive, but with the right woman and especially in marriage. Men cannot be whiny, crying, and over emotional, because most women will not like it, but a good wife who loves her husband will understand. Men have to know when to express, and with whom, and not "lose themselves" in the emotion.
I have submitted to my husband, he is the head of our family. We were brought together by God's good grace. There are good people out there, you just have to look carefully, and get to know them and observe their behavior.
Men that don't want to grow up. They want a "relationship for the wrong reasons. Sad they will grow old and be alone, selfish and shallow.
Companionship and dogs aren't the same, dogs simply cannot return the same level that most people require. Lonely people buy dogs because they can't attract a(enough humans) human.
typical shaming.....yawnnn
Dana D sad? For who? I reckon they'll be just fine.
They want a relationship for love. it's women that haven't grown up. Theyre too busy focusing on money and materialistic things to understand what love actually is
@@Alyssa-tu2kx I agree . Most women not all are definitly about money. I would get married if I found someone who wants to be with a person for who they are. But I havent yet.
This , possibly is the most beneficial video EVER
Men who don't share their feelings are seen as unrelational and we end up not wanting to be with you . There's a balance. You need to share and be strong as well. You must be human or you don't trust us.
Yah, Marriage is just a piece of paper..... A piece of paper that can seriously damage your life and financial and mental stability. 9 times out of 10 the man's financial and mental stability.
Brian Toblerone in the black community you are def right.
I love the host. He's super funny
He is Jesse...and he is so our guy
This is good...it helps me to realize that ppl don't really think about life like ppl claim they do. As simple as the question may come off the question require some deep pondering. Good shit.
I really enjoyed this. Great to hear, as a Relationship & Intimacy Coach that works with both men and women. It is also the reason why I am not married. It is one of the biggest turn off for a woman is hearing a man complaining to this mother and dropping into the little boy syndrome. It is time to begin attending to relationship with self and then learning how to relate with one another.
I tried dating got married and now I’m single and okay just being with myself. Dating is just too much lol 😂🤣😂🤣😂 enjoying the peace within myself and I’m not eager to bet on peace right now.
This is a very interesting insight. I realize that the perception of the man and the woman is very different between the men on either side of the psychologist. I think values were what was missing from this conversation, like what values do they want in a partner and how they could get this. There was a lot of lingering on the cons of marrying a certain woman but I wish there were more conversation on the ideal person that is as realistic to their honest wants as much as possible. It was more a conversation in the grey area of the perception of dating and marriage, instead of about that grey are. It was interesting none the less, however.
I like the way the first guy is with his mother. That respect is paramount in the parent child relationship. He's a good son.
reynagold yeah. But I can only assume that the second guy probably didn’t had the best mother figure.
Totally loved this discussion Remember having things like this at this place I used to work at lunchtime it was on Women and Men discussing all types of things about just men and women sex relationship God life it got hairy sometimes,but we all went back into work with better understanding ✌️♥️
he said his wife was black and Asian but she took the black side...lol.... Jesse Lee I gotta love you brother you're comedian
kelcey burris sr jesse lee is a jerk off
Doright Christopher damn your late as hell to the vid from 1/2 a yr ago...and Jessie says stuff to upset ppl lol
+kelcey burris sr im never to late ok. jesse is a sellout uncle tim for wgite people
Doright Christopher what did he sale and I think u better look up uncle Tom's cabin.....
And this is Ole from June your late lol
Marriage is literally the biggest mistake a successful man can make.
And also its stupidest thing to do if you're a unsuccessful man 😅
@@Project_mayhem94 shit it's awful no matter because if you make it down the road she takes half so either way you're screwed.
@@SH-yk4ft😔
If I proposed a business deal to you:
You put up 90% of the capital, I put up 10%.
You put up 90% of the labor, I put up 10%.
We both get paid the same salary.
We split profits 50/50.
I can renege on putting up my share of the capital with no penalty.
I can renege on doing my share of the labor with no penalty.
I can embezzle or steal from the company any amount at any time with absolutely zero penalty or obligation to pay it back.
I can quit the business at any time for any reason or no reason.
If I do quit the business,
- the business assets pay for my attorney(s)
- I get 90% of any business owned I.P.
- I get a lump sum payment of a minimum of 50% of the business assets
- The business must continue to pay my salary for 5-10+ years (in some circumstances for the rest of my life).
- If the business revenue increases, I can get a "raise"
- If the business fails or revenue falls and is unable to continue paying my salary, you get thrown in jail.
Ok, if that business contract is presented to you, do you sign it?
Well, newsflash, that's the contract you're signing when you get married.
Very enlightening ! Many thanks
This host is a manipulating opportunist who didn't let these men answer honestly and freely. Not half the story was really told.
fallen state is a great channel. great work mr jesse.
Indeed, Ericka.... Very good.... It's uplifting as well as intelligent..It is not demeaning....It's funny but full of wisdom and balance
His ability to be so honest helps me see the way I'm not honest with myself
Hey fellow hustler friend ;)
I'm trying to work out the logistics of your proposal... I'll get back to you on this. =P
His side dis about black women not being capable of sustaining a marriage for 20 years was insulting... implying that the only reason the gentleman was married to the black woman was because she was part Asian was even more insulting... but to see other black women liking his words is disheartening. Be the change you want to see😑
Awesome topics and very informative
@ 17:00 The guest start saying " Well Spiritually speaking.. " the reply is hilarious ..lol
State certified marriage is a state contractual arrangement that is not needed to have a lawful marriage.
All the men in this talk need to purify their intentions in life. Their main goal should not be to get a woman or be so weak in matters of the flesh. Self development and self reflection has to come and it needs to be consistent with age. Women are actually very much in the know. The high value ones can read the men. We are strong in keeping it together emotionally and raising a family with high morals. It's a shame to hear that we are so 'distracting ' in your lives and you develop the need to play us like toys.
It's an honour to love a man who is strong, keeps his gaze away in the presence of the females and knows how to teach these morals to children .
It certainly is not the norm to bed your partner before marriage. What you mean is that it's society's low standards that most say yes to! That's why we are living in times of high disregard of true values and true spirit. This is part of the mess in society. Mass media BS.
Don't be fooled by what is 'normal' . None of yous were created to be weak and stay weak.
Don't blame it on the biology , it's just an excuse. There's lots to work on yourselves and don't point the finger on us women. Get smart and make the changes if you want to be a king . Cos only then will you find your queen.
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The man on the right should not get married. He doesn't value a woman, but definitely values himself. What happened to romance with the guy on the left?
Jesse Lee Petersen amazing questions, hopefully they will think about some of the things your brought up.
It is sooooooooooo sad that this is what life offers women as partners........Too sad for words :^(
Those are not bad peaople, they are just mature man who have gone through a lot of frustration in their lives and have never been taught how to deal with that. Their parents didn't had any of the issues this guys have gone through so they lack all the necessary resources to become amotionally stable and centered.
I'm not victimizing them because that knowledge is out there and you can find it if you are brave enough to get yourself together and seek for a better life experience, but you can't deny that the enormous changes that our society has gone through for the last 50 years have never been addressed seriously, all the traditions and structures refering to couples and marriage are dead and the men and women that we live in this time we are almost all lost and unable to engage on all the responsabilities that carry creating a deep bond with someone.
That's why so many marriages fail and that's why we are having less kids and why everyday men and women hate each other more and more to the point that MGTOW and feminist groups are rising throughout all western countries. THAT is sad. Its sad that we have come to a point where no one trusts anyone, and they trust themselves even less. Those men up there could have been great and honorable people with the right trust placed on them and a proper guidance through their emotional life, but no, we are too fucking busy fighting each other and trying to overcome our love needs by enslaving the opposite sex instead of cooperating and being truthful about ourselves.
That was pretty broad minded of you; however if I had to share my life with someone, it would be with someone who had something substantial emotionally to offer. I am sure that you are probably correct in that these are not bad people, I just know that I am worth so much more and would never settle for that
Traders Friend their like this because they can't find women who want to be a wife. Woman want to be like men and it's a huge turnoff. Thus why guys are single. Woman have bigger egos than guys now days with their spandex pants and makeup.
LOL, I don't think we should have to be less than so that you guys can be more. If I have more bravado than a man then I don't want him. I am naturally a strong personality and I make no apologies for it, but I will not shrink so that some man can rise. It is truly sad that in this country Many gay women are more masculine than men
Typical female blames men for what shes done. Lol unreal. Entitled females like you have made this bed, now lay in it.
P.S it will only get worse for you
All the black women in the comment section just confirms what they said. You get upset and emotional and react the same, "I stopped watching after he said this and that". Smh, try a little less pride, a little more humility, a whole lot of control over your mouths, and keep your legs closed and all will go much better for you.
I so agreed with the guy on the left, about staying in his space with a woman.. I am 59 yrs old, been married to a man for 35 years.. and he KNOWS he cannot fix my emotions, my drama, my women stuff...he listens to me, he hugs me, but he doesn't try to fix it.. he cant... he suggests I go have lunch with the ladies.... I love him for that!!! And again, I have to agree with him again when he spoke of his mom, he loves her , he respects her, and he knows its not for him to fix her... great guy!!!
These guys are really honest and it’s great to see and hear their intimate side and feelings about women....
Hi there great mind and beautiful...
Hi there, great mind and you're beautiful...
I don't want to loose my house. Is that a good enough reason ??
YES
This guy is surprised that he tells his wife his problems?!???? This mindset is so dysfunctional. I agree with Chris. I do respect men more who can maturely confront their problems and not think having emotions effects their masculinity.
You probably do but from personal experience and talking to other guys once you do that that is usually the beginning of the end of your relationship. What I’ve learned is that woman say they will react one way to something but when it actually happens they usually act a completely different way.
Most women are not interested in a mans problems or struggles. They wait at the finish line and pick the winners.
Thanks for sharing
The Fallen State...what an appropriate name for a show
Oxymoxytocin. 😂😂😂😂 Jesse never fails to crack me up.
wow, i like what he said and i can very much relate. he said she submits herself to her husband, the head of household, so he can make these decisions, and be held accountable. my wife is the same, she looks to me to guide us and our relationship, and our lives, the raising of our child. and also she will let me know to double think my actions if they seem too selfish on my part. great analysis.
Wesley Aguilar wow you're the only guy whom I've seen write positively about a woman and marriage. God bless you bro. So much negativity here.
Thats true we do get into relationships that remind us of our parents. As a child you see how your parents relationships was and soon to realize after you analyze it. Thats why we get attracted because we're familiar with that character and where it came from.
Marriage Minded Men are Blessings and Blessed. Be fruitful and multiply!