DSLR + Slide Copier = 35mm Film Scanner
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2022
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equipment used:
Canon EOS 6D
Minolta Auto Bellows 1 slide copier
EF-mount macro focus rail
Rodenstock Rodagon 50mm f/2.8 (LTM-mount enlarger lens)
Fotodiox EF-to-M39 (aka LTM) adapter
40.5 to 46mm filter step-up adapter
46mm to 52mm filter step-up adapter
Utebit RC4 quick release plate and head
Artograph LightPad 920 XL
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I also use an old bellows with a 50mm Apo Rodagon on a Sony A7R5. As lighting a Godot flash in a light box triggered via radio, perfect setting!
Thank you.
I picked up a nikon slide copier a few years that is built like a tank for $60. I use it with my Nikon 7100 camera and a 50mm lens. I'll have to try an enlarging lens to see now well that works
Thanks for the video. Will that set up allow you to scan medium format, or is it 35mm only?
No, to do medium format you'd need some other way to hold the negative, and I don't know of any MF slide copier like this. There's things like the negative.supply film carrier though.
You'd also need a different lens, or at least a different way to mount the lens. My 50mm with the focus rail retracted all the way back is only capable of viewing just slightly more than a 35mm negative, and medium format is significantly larger.
What you estimate your cost? I made use of what was given to me of a Nikon PB-4 Bellows + PS-4 Slide Copy kit but I understand it's quite expensive. I use my own SB-29 Micro ring light into soft box or any good TTL flash on supported body. If I had to start over, I'd say the ready made for D810 kid it offered was , is way easier and cost effective IF, you already have a good 1:1 Macro. I use the Nikkor 60mm f2.8D. Fits directly to camera locks in place and you can literally hand hold
Hello! I have pretty the same setup but I noticed a problem with this Rodenstock 50mm in my case. I have cropped Canon and I'm using the lens in inverted position. If a frame is bright (dark negative) I can see a round reflection (and diaphragm glare) of the lens straight in the center of picture because of dark parts of negative works like a mirror. I was trying to get rid of it using filters, different light but so, there is lens reflection still. The only idea is to use a longer focal lens, like 100mm... Do You have the same issue? In other things, the lens make great images, contrast and colors. For inverting I'm using only native Canon raw converter DPP.
I also have a Canon APS-C size CMOS sensor camera - I've been using a Canon bellows setup for the last 8 years or so. I use an El Nikkor 80mm to copy 35mm negative/slides and I do not invert the lens. I need about 8 to 9 inches from the bellow lens to the negative holder. I experimented by buying several enlarger lenses (105mm Rodenstock, 50mm El Nikkor), and the 80mm works fine. As far as inverting the lens, I don't have an opinion about what's better. I also had to experiment with adapters to create a tube extension to eliminate ambient light. I tether to the computer for ease. I've read about the macro lens vs the enlarger lens.... and I'm not sure which is better, though I think the enlarger lens might be a little better. Negative Lab Pro for Lightroom as we all know is fantastic and just keeps getting better and better for color negs and black and white. One other thought - The slide copier / negative holder at the end of the bellows works fine. It's great for slides, but it is not the quickest method for negative strips... because the strip can easily dislodge from the track system which is frustrating and really slows you down. In today's world - Negative Supply and other companies offer a more secure film carrier for speeding the process. I would suggest looking at the different carrier(s) on the market if you have tons of negatives as I do and use that for your negatives.
Thank you so much for this video. I purchased a Nikon bellows with the slide copier attachment, but the images I was getting from my nikkor 55mm F2.8 macro was pretty bad in the corners at f8. The center was incredible sharp but the corners were out of focus due to field curvature. An enlarger lens is a great solution as it's flat field and designed to project flat images. How's the grain definition you're getting from corners? Same as center?
What camera body & bellows kit? I think the 55mm Micro is a good lens. f8-11 is probably more optimal. And the condition of transparencies? Warpage can play a big role. I'd prefer the PB-6+PS-6 kit as you don't have the shift & tilt to worry about. Everything is aligned tight.
@@khanscombe619 I have the PB-6 + PS-6 combo. I recently purchased a Schneider Componon-S 2.8/50mm and I'm getting much better results compared to the Micro Nikkor 55mm f2.8. The Nikkor is a fantastic lens but not great at 1:1 magnification. For the Schneider to work with the PB-6 I had to purchase a M39 to Nikon adapter and I had to invert the part of the PB-6 that you attach the lens so that the front of the lens point towards the sensor (reverse mount) I'm happy with the results I'm getting, plus it's super convenient, once you nail focus and lock everything in place.
@@khanscombe619 forgot to mention. I use the Sony A7Rii. The negatives are in good condition. The PS-6 does a good job keeping the negative flat so I wouldn't worry about that.
@@alanstoss Cool! But oh wow, I wacked a Nikkor 50mm f1.4D on to take a look and it was not flat at all even reversed. I hadn't noticed ages ago. That's reversed directly on FX body for near 1:1 (35mm across) & ES-1 slide tube on Ektachrome 100. Or directly on PB-4 Bellows for 1:1 not much difference. The 60mm f2.8D Micro was flat all across directly on FX body but you will need the slide tube adapter. It's worth it & way less anyway used or the Nikon ES-2 new for $140 but has all the attachments to so film strips as well & comes w/ the adapter ring. Pop this directly onto your 1:1 flat macro lens of choice and good to go. Hand held, walk around, TTL metering and all, just point to the clear sky & Bob's your uncle.
@@khanscombe619 Yes, that's the way to go. Those Nikon's ES are neat. I'm glad to hear that you are getting good results from the 60mm macro. I decided to go with an enlarger lens but before that I tried to find an scanner lens from a Nikon coolscan or Minolta Damage to use on the PB-6 but it's kinda hard to find. Also a cool but overkill alternative would be something like a Bowens Illumitran, Durst CromaPro, Beseler slide duplicator...
Why are you puting enlarger lens backwards? Its ment to work oposite direction. :)
at 1:1 magnification it doesn't matter
@@billf_etc Those lenses are not symmetrical.
@@kinopilot my optics are a bit rusty, but at 1:1 I'm fairly sure that doesn't make any difference. Even if it does, enlarger lenses aren't designed to be used at 1:1 (facing either direction 😄) anyway. There isn't a good way to mount this lens backwards in this setup anyway (the size of the adapters would make it un-focusable), so it's moot.
Of course the real answer is to get a 1:1 capable macro lens, but that costs many MANY times more than this setup does, and this produces very fine results as-is. Maybe with microfilm or something like ADOX CMS 20 it would matter, but then you get to have fun dealing with the flatness of field issues which are then probably bigger limiting factors.