I think the reason why they have this unit is that it is a used former airport rig that somebody was smart enough to buy - probably very cheaply from either a military base or from a local airport that was switching to newer equipment. These are built like tanks and will last forever if well-maintained, and I bet it cost 10% of what a new full-size tanker would’ve cost. They get little to no use, and so even an older unit like this could have under 1000 miles on it. And they are usually very well maintained. Not the easiest thing to drive around in a town, but this appears to be a fairly Rural area, so it’s just a really smart idea. There’s plenty of these rigs floating around on the used equipment market, so if you get a chance to buy one for your town - buy it!👍😁
These were donated with the primary intent of using them for Toledo Executive Airport, which is in our jurisdiction. With that, we realized how useful it can be on vehicle and brush fires, as well, and expanded its use.
@@ltfd Great example of using a surplus military vehicle for civilian use. And it was donated…even better! The cost of the refurb I’m sure was nothing compared to acquiring anything close to a fabulous rig like that! Well played… I trained a long time ago on how to operate one of these, and it’s amazing how capable they are. I love using deck guns, but when you opened up on that rig…I just giggled. Take care of her!!!😁👍
@@UncleFred100 Oh, we sure do! We have a second one that came with it -- out of service currently, but gives us redundancy on parts. The crews love it, the incident commanders love it -- all around great rig and we'll keep it in the fleet as long as we can!
@@ltfd Having one for spare parts is very smart indeed. You folks should do a story on the rig for Firehouse…there are many of these out there sitting unused. That video alone would get folks attention as to using something like this. Even for a well involved house or building fire, it’s a very safe to operate deluge system, even without the foam. The member can operate the monitor from inside the cab, and if you hook it up to a hydrant, it’s just a massive pumper. I have seen it used to knock down dangerous walls on burned out structures, and it does a heck of a job on salvage yard fires. Some of these come with booms that can be extended and punch through metal airframes…not unlike a trailer fire where it’s too dangerous to open it up. Again, smart use of a surplus resource…your community should be proud!😁
The most efficient, effective fire extinguishment seen so far this year. Kudos to this agency and its apparatus. Great deployment of apparatus to this fire site. Fantastic management of resources and personnel. Bring it on!
Yup, absolutely brilliant. Guy popped out wearing his full gear and got right on it - not a second wasted. Only criticism is the finger on the lens, but I suppose you had more important business at hand 😀
@@penguins9645 Every COUNTY in every state should have one of these. They can get good used one's very cheap. With so many gas tankers and other kinds of tankers on the road and people paying no attention to driving anymore as the text is more important.
In the 1960’s in Minneapolis, a gasoline tanker truck overturned in a city intersection, turning the whole intersection into a mass of fire. The fire department was having a hard time with it because they didn’t have enough foam capability to handle a large gasoline fire, so they concentrated on saving the surrounding buildings. They called MSP airport for help. A crash truck arrived and hit it with foam and the gasoline fire was knocked down within minutes, so the city fire department was left to finish the structural firefighting.
Several years ago a gasoline tanker overturned near my house. Fortunately it didn't catch fire. I heard it when it overturned, it made the loudest mentality sound I ever. Three homes had to be evacuated I was just outside of evacuation area. Fortunately it didn't explode. Just a lot of spilled gasoline that had to be dealt with. The had to call for hazmat crew and another tanker to offload gasoline from the overturned tanker. I believe I saw a crash truck from Seymour Johnson AFB at the location.
They need to make em that size again. A crash truck is super versatile but the big manufacturers are not making the P19 size anymore. Damn shame because they are great for towns with an small airfield and they can serve several roles
This kind of fire truck (for airports) is capable of up to 70 mph, and I have seen one demonstrated off-road. They have a long, remote controlled nozzle that can send water/foam a long distance, and have a huge water capacity on board.
That's the way ARFF crews are trained, and ARFF apparatus are designed specifically for rapid intervention. This could just as easily have been an aircraft crashed in a field.
Clearly professionals. Fastest water/foam on fire after arriving on scene hands down of any video posted. Got out of the vehicle with breathing gear on, helmet on, turnout gear fully put on, gloves on, boots on and hose pulled out in seconds. Outstanding.
UH, that's because ARFF trucks are designed for that, because in aircraft fires you have a very short window to save lives. But they're not very useful on the average building fire.
@@ffjsb Come on guy, i've seen tons of vids here on YT where tankers would pull up on a large working fire and the guys would bumble around for 10 minutes before getting water on the fire. This dept is outstanding, simply put......
@@ct87gn25 What does your statement have to do with anything??? We're NOT talking about tankers, or inept firefighters. Even the guy who posted this video will tell you that an ARFF truck is NOT designed for structural firefighting.
@@gwencrawford737 Kid, I only have 40 years on the job, and a major in Fire Science. An ARFF truck is a pretty stupid truck to bring to a structure fire. It's like using a howitzer to kill a mouse. Not every structure fire is fully involved. Most of the time it's room an contents. Not to mention, a lot of times people have these things called trees all around their houses, that would make a foam turret useless. Then there's the cost. ARFF trucks are a SPECIALTY apparatus for a reason. You don't have vent fans, or supply lines on them, not to mention ladders and pike poles, and many of the other tools an engine carries. The other thing is that ARFF trucks are usually located at airports where they're REQUIRED to have a minimum number of trucks on hand, or the airport has to shut down operations. The FACT is, they're just not practical for most structure fires, and usually are only special called for special circumstances in industrial fires. Go calm down and play with your lego fire trucks or something.
I live near DTW airport and every once in awhile I will see one of these rigs heading off the airport for mutual aid to help with a fire. It’s really awesome to see.
Oshkosh isn't the only maker of "crash trucks"! Recently a variant of the RosenBauer panther (now Electric!) was introduced to fight fires in Hollywood!
Outstanding 👍 This is the sort of game changer that regular fire engines need. You can see the deployment speed comparison between the nose nozzle and the manual hose reel. Brilliant. Thank you for sharing this.
Almost every department in the USA has a fast water applicator and it is hardly ever used. It is called The Deck Gun! It can be put into action as fast as the engineer can bring up the pressure.
Excellent comment. EV fires as we all know take a HUGE amount of water to knock down. Having an ARFF rig like this might just be what ALL depts will need to fight that type of serious fire. And with all these EV's being sold, and what we all know about them, there will be many EV fires in the very near future.
The P-19 carries 1000 gallons of water, and 130 gallons of foam concentrate. You're going to need a water supply early on with an EV fire that's REALLY going good. 1000 gallons ain't gonna do it. The foam use? Really may or may not do much good... the problem is when the battery is in thermal runaway, you've got to use plenty of water to overcome that. AFFF isn't going to change that. One of your bigger problems is getting the water where it needs to go on the vehicle to shut the thermal runaway down. In Europe, one practice that seems to have gotten traction, is basically a big delivered container that can be filled with water, and then they pick up the vehicle and put it in the container, which addresses the runaway and contains everything. Some reports I've gotten here in the US... is that you're talking about 12,000 gallons of water and several hours used up, trying to cope with an EV in full thermal runaway... and then, flat-bedding the thing to a wrecking yard and putting it somewhere away from everything, in case it renews its thermal runaway in hours or days after it was initially put out by the fire department. EVs are just a problem right now, and while I'm sure we'll solve the puzzle on how to deal with them... for right now, I'm NOT looking forward to dealing with em.
@@gwencrawford737 Yeah, you’d likely need a bigger and newer ARFF truck like the 6x6 or 8x8 variants of the Oshkosh Striker, which hold 3000 and 4500 gallons of water, respectively
Fine work done here, and a nice standard-model P-19 as well. A P-19A or B would be slightly nicer to have, but these standard P-19s are more than effective as ARFF vehicles. Oshkosh made a nice and simple truck when they designed the P-19 as a supplement to the older P-4.
@@ltfd Thanks. I didn’t want to just steal your stuff. I am a Lieutenant for State of Hawaii ARFF. Love your videos and can learn from them so thanks for your service and for posting
If you use the footage, what will you call it??? How to get rid of PFAS foam? How to contaminate an entire neighborhood in 5 minutes? Cancer 101? Just wondering.
Man, every department should have an ARFF truck lol. Ton of water with a remote deck gun for limited staffing, and a quick deploy booster reel for close up work. Pretty efficient!
😂 Oh man that’s it only a minute 27? I was on pins and needles excited to get to the back of the truck then BOOOOOM, wait what happened the video stopped…
These ARFF trucks can also be very effective in initial attack on forest fires 🔥 if used quickly! Think of the Almeda fire in Southern Oregon a couple of years ago! They sure could've used them for that terrible fire!
@@ohcrap3263 The chances that you'd get to use one for anything other than aircraft fires are slim and none. If the forest service has them, it's because they got them surplus and paid almost nothing for them. But the government shouldn't have that many that they are giving them away either.
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How to put out a truck fire in less than a minute, or at least knock down the bulk of the fire. Foam on the fire 8 seconds after wheels stop turning. Hand line in operation within 26 seconds. Is that standard procedure in your FD to have a crash truck respond on truck fires? If so, it definitely worked.
ARFF28 is actually staffed by home-response, paid-per-call members who staff whatever rig we need out the door at a moment's notice. Clearly, they train on it quite a bit!
Blimey, I blinked and the fire was almost out. Great response by this crew, helps having the right equipment and knowing how to use it.Well done from the UK.
Not a chance! That nozzle does not have a good Line of Sight on the main burning material. The trailer. All he did was totally drown the cockpit to the point it would be filled to the windowsills and most of their onboard water would be wasted.
We used to have a remote monitor with CAFS and pump and roll on every engine and brush. Very effective when used correctly. Then we got a new chief who decided that hundreds of gallons of water and more exposure for employees was the way to go. He didnt last long, but was there long enough to have ALL of the CAFS and front monitors removed. That was part of why he didnt last...as it was unbelievably expensive. He wasn't satisfied with just changing the SOP...he had it all completely removed. What a douche that guy was...
Being a chief who loves her job and having the privilege of taking care of her firefighters and citizens, THAT makes my heart ache. You sized him up exactly right. A complete douche. We white hats are supposed to set our firefighters up for success and minimize the risks they have to take where we can, while helping them maximize performance. Only an absolute moron throws good, effective equipment and tactics out the window.
We had a massive Racing Fuel Manufacture fire here a few years ago. City crews were having problems with knockdown until a Chief requested an ARFF unit from the local airport...knockdown was effected within a half hour or so upon the ARFF's arrival.
36 second mark....air brakes engaged.....38 second mark....wet stuff on red stuff....never before have I seen that efficiency on a fire ground....likely a well trained department and a kick-butt FMO behind the wheel!
Airport fire engines can fight fires faster than regular city fire engines. If a car is burning in the city it can take a few minutes to hook up the hose to the pumps of the truck. so I was wondering why many cities do not have trucks remote controlled water cannons at the front. I guess budget reasons are the cause. As firefighting equipment can be expensive.
يبدو ان هذه الوحدة تابعة لمطار قريب من موقع الحريق . لا استغرب المباشرة السريعة لاطفاء الحريق بكل احترافية كون وحدات اطفاء الحريق بالمطارات لديهم تدريب عالي وعربات مجهزة جيداً ،
Huh, US firefighters who actually start to fight fire as soon as they arrive: completely new for me. Normally they start rolling hoses, look at each other, runs some more hoses and minutes later MAYBE some water starts to flow. I am flabbergasted
Downside to getting equipment made for runways is that runways are flat, outside of airports it isn't. We had a 4000 gallon tanker on our department that we got from an airport and we have lots of hills throughout town. Uphill with it fully loaded top speed was 10-12 mph.
This is why we pay taxes. Labor pays a higher percentage of their income than landlords & investors do. We gotta fix that or we, as a people, will end. Then no one has cool firetrucks and nice roads, just walls and fences and guns.
Seeing how almost every big city has an international airport. They all do have rigs like these. They just aren't allowed to leave the airport grounds. Lots of big cities have foam trucks that accomplish basically the same thing.
@@eriksand9262 actually Crash tenders do go on runs outside of airports if requested but most of the time they only will respond to aircraft down calls. They're not restricted to only airfields they are used for other incidents too if they are needed but it's not common , they're only dispatched if there is a serious threat to the safety of fire personnel because a ARFF crash tender can put a fire out pretty quickly while keeping the personnel out of harms way. They're also used if they're the closest unit to the incident outside of the airport and other units are still enroute.
@@josephbennett3482 There's FAA MINIMUM manning, so they can't just run off the airport all the time. Danger to fire personnel has nothing to do with it.
@@ffjsb in many places the ARFF aren't even at the airport itself they're at the closest fire station to the airport and are manned by the firefighters of that station where the tender is and the tender has to be taken to the airport , my regional airport is like that one of the township fire stations where my airport is houses the crash tender off-site and when an emergency occurs they are dispatched to the airport.
@@josephbennett3482 It depends on the size of the airport. There are specific FAA regulations as to how much equipment is required, and the minimum response times required.
@@ltfd - It was a joke, get a sense of humor. The joke comes from decades in law enforcement where we'd have the road blocked because of a bad accident in sight, a fire where you can see all the fire trucks with their hoses stretched across the road with a building on fire etc. and there's always someone who will try to drive around the police cars if the officer has their attention turned or someone will pull up and ask "Is the road closed?" or "Can I go through?" Sometimes followed by the "...but how am I going to get home?" Often it's someone who has been driving too and from work the same way for years and all of a sudden, there's a monkey wrench thrown into their travel and they have a difficult time figuring out that you just have to go around the block.
@@ltfd - Ahh, guess it could've been taken both ways like My Cousin Vinny and "I shot the clerk". LOL. I know you people dealt with those drivers too, especially running over the fire hoses, I just wish we were issued a pair of scissors and the ability to cut up their drivers licenses right on the spot!
This has to be the fastest arrival to application of water scenario I have ever seen, i took only 10 seconds, flat, from the engine stop to the flow to start.
As a former firefighter/engineer, we trained extensively with crash units. Based on this experience, I have long believed that departments would benefit from having a crash unit for calls such as this. They are a high-ticket item, but so is the value of lives and property they can protect. The ROSENBAUER Panther 4x4, in particular, is highly maneuverable, and has features that no conventional pumper can match. Instant-on 1500 gallons of light-water, foam, and dry chem, that can extinguish large difficult fires in seconds! That, combined with pump and roll, off-road travel, and stand-off, are just a few attributes. -Hats off to this department on how quickly and professionally, they handled this call.
Why bother spending all that money for what basically amounts to a big dumpster fire??? Most engines have a deck gun, and could knock down this fire as well, without using thousands of dollars worth of foam.
I live close to a regional airport with three Ziegler Z8. With about 10 hours every day without any flights, you freequently see these ARFFs on other calls. They are pretty capable and where frequently used around here on wildland fires, but for the money of one ARFF you can pretty much buy 2-3 other fire trucks. And the capabilities are not that unique, around here all the off-road water tenders are equipped for wildland fires (master stream, pump and roll in first gear), only the foam capabilities are missing.
I think I speak for everyone……. More crash truck videos
agreed
Yes we need more
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I think the reason why they have this unit is that it is a used former airport rig that somebody was smart enough to buy - probably very cheaply from either a military base or from a local airport that was switching to newer equipment.
These are built like tanks and will last forever if well-maintained, and I bet it cost 10% of what a new full-size tanker would’ve cost. They get little to no use, and so even an older unit like this could have under 1000 miles on it. And they are usually very well maintained.
Not the easiest thing to drive around in a town, but this appears to be a fairly Rural area, so it’s just a really smart idea.
There’s plenty of these rigs floating around on the used equipment market, so if you get a chance to buy one for your town - buy it!👍😁
Its a USAF P-19 ARFF Truck. I used those when on active duty.
These were donated with the primary intent of using them for Toledo Executive Airport, which is in our jurisdiction. With that, we realized how useful it can be on vehicle and brush fires, as well, and expanded its use.
@@ltfd Great example of using a surplus military vehicle for civilian use. And it was donated…even better!
The cost of the refurb I’m sure was nothing compared to acquiring anything close to a fabulous rig like that! Well played…
I trained a long time ago on how to operate one of these, and it’s amazing how capable they are. I love using deck guns, but when you opened up on that rig…I just giggled.
Take care of her!!!😁👍
@@UncleFred100 Oh, we sure do! We have a second one that came with it -- out of service currently, but gives us redundancy on parts. The crews love it, the incident commanders love it -- all around great rig and we'll keep it in the fleet as long as we can!
@@ltfd Having one for spare parts is very smart indeed.
You folks should do a story on the rig for Firehouse…there are many of these out there sitting unused. That video alone would get folks attention as to using something like this.
Even for a well involved house or building fire, it’s a very safe to operate deluge system, even without the foam. The member can operate the monitor from inside the cab, and if you hook it up to a hydrant, it’s just a massive pumper. I have seen it used to knock down dangerous walls on burned out structures, and it does a heck of a job on salvage yard fires.
Some of these come with booms that can be extended and punch through metal airframes…not unlike a trailer fire where it’s too dangerous to open it up.
Again, smart use of a surplus resource…your community should be proud!😁
That was one of the quickest fire knockdowns I've seen. Well trained, well executed, impressive job👍
also right tool for the job at hand
The most efficient, effective fire extinguishment seen so far this year. Kudos to this agency and its apparatus. Great deployment of apparatus to this fire site. Fantastic management of resources and personnel. Bring it on!
Yup, absolutely brilliant. Guy popped out wearing his full gear and got right on it - not a second wasted. Only criticism is the finger on the lens, but I suppose you had more important business at hand 😀
There are plenty of others. Airport Crash Trucks are perfect for this type of fire.
@@choppermike3329 Except that they are incredibly expensive and limited in use. Basically this is a big dumpster fire with no life hazard.
@@penguins9645 Every COUNTY in every state should have one of these. They can get good used one's very cheap. With so many gas tankers and other kinds of tankers on the road and people paying no attention to driving anymore as the text is more important.
Is that white stuff the new type of foam, that is not harmful to everybody with harsh chemicals?
Ok, I've fought several dozen semi fires in my career and am so mad that I never got to do it with a ARFF rig! That was great.
Yeah, they went in hard.
In the 1960’s in Minneapolis, a gasoline tanker truck overturned in a city intersection, turning the whole intersection into a mass of fire. The fire department was having a hard time with it because they didn’t have enough foam capability to handle a large gasoline fire, so they concentrated on saving the surrounding buildings. They called MSP airport for help. A crash truck arrived and hit it with foam and the gasoline fire was knocked down within minutes, so the city fire department was left to finish the structural firefighting.
Several years ago a gasoline tanker overturned near my house. Fortunately it didn't catch fire. I heard it when it overturned, it made the loudest mentality sound I ever. Three homes had to be evacuated I was just outside of evacuation area. Fortunately it didn't explode. Just a lot of spilled gasoline that had to be dealt with. The had to call for hazmat crew and another tanker to offload gasoline from the overturned tanker. I believe I saw a crash truck from Seymour Johnson AFB at the location.
Then the BLM came to Minneapolis in 2020 and set Fire to the City because A Drug Thug Died of a Drug Overdose.
I’m ARFF from desert storm . Loved those crash trucks , they could put a lot of fire out in no time . 😊🚒🚨
Every department needs one of those!! I love it!!
Not every dept needs one. This town has at least one because there's an airport in town.
pretty cool that they could they deploy one of those trucks out. normally i see those ones in or around airports only
They need to make em that size again. A crash truck is super versatile but the big manufacturers are not making the P19 size anymore. Damn shame because they are great for towns with an small airfield and they can serve several roles
@@docmurray2066 I don't know what you're talking about, but Oshkosh DOES still build P-19's, and other manufacturers, like Rosenbauer do too.
OMG! Never, ever seen a dept get water/foam on a fire within 5 seconds of stopping at the scene. Congrats guys, you have one heck of a dept there!!!!
That's because they used a ARFF which is for airplane crashes
Pump and drive capability is the key to this.
This kind of fire truck (for airports) is capable of up to 70 mph, and I have seen one demonstrated off-road. They have a long, remote controlled nozzle that can send water/foam a long distance, and have a huge water capacity on board.
That's the way ARFF crews are trained, and ARFF apparatus are designed specifically for rapid intervention. This could just as easily have been an aircraft crashed in a field.
Clearly professionals. Fastest water/foam on fire after arriving on scene hands down of any video posted. Got out of the vehicle with breathing gear on, helmet on, turnout gear fully put on, gloves on, boots on and hose pulled out in seconds. Outstanding.
UH, that's because ARFF trucks are designed for that, because in aircraft fires you have a very short window to save lives. But they're not very useful on the average building fire.
@@ffjsb Come on guy, i've seen tons of vids here on YT where tankers would pull up on a large working fire and the guys would bumble around for 10 minutes before getting water on the fire. This dept is outstanding, simply put......
@@ct87gn25 What does your statement have to do with anything??? We're NOT talking about tankers, or inept firefighters. Even the guy who posted this video will tell you that an ARFF truck is NOT designed for structural firefighting.
@@ffjsb, BULL!!
You would be STUNNED at what an ARFF vehicle can do at a structure fire, with a well trained crew!
@@gwencrawford737 Kid, I only have 40 years on the job, and a major in Fire Science. An ARFF truck is a pretty stupid truck to bring to a structure fire. It's like using a howitzer to kill a mouse. Not every structure fire is fully involved. Most of the time it's room an contents. Not to mention, a lot of times people have these things called trees all around their houses, that would make a foam turret useless. Then there's the cost. ARFF trucks are a SPECIALTY apparatus for a reason. You don't have vent fans, or supply lines on them, not to mention ladders and pike poles, and many of the other tools an engine carries. The other thing is that ARFF trucks are usually located at airports where they're REQUIRED to have a minimum number of trucks on hand, or the airport has to shut down operations.
The FACT is, they're just not practical for most structure fires, and usually are only special called for special circumstances in industrial fires.
Go calm down and play with your lego fire trucks or something.
Video was a bit short but like the use of the ARFF truck
We're posting some things from the archives -- we wish it was longer, too!
You guys are an example that other agencies should follow!!!!
With as many times in a year, these crash trucks are used on highways they aren't cost-effective.
@@jimmccabe801 This. This was basically a big dumpster fire at that point.
@@ffjsb Huge.
Not gonna lie, that was pretty badass Pretty effective too it seems
I live near DTW airport and every once in awhile I will see one of these rigs heading off the airport for mutual aid to help with a fire. It’s really awesome to see.
That is one hell of an efficient unit!
The n why did they waste the vast majority of their onboard water filling the cockpit?
@@JB91710 if you have to ask that, you need to study up on vehicle fires.
@@Greylocks They had the rest or the rig and under the hood to deal with. If I have to tell you that.........
Sweet, Oshkosh P-19, the best crash truck ever. I used to work on them while I was in the Air Force
I drove P-19s as a crew chief in the USMC
Oshkosh isn't the only maker of "crash trucks"! Recently a variant of the RosenBauer panther (now Electric!) was introduced to fight fires in Hollywood!
@@markescartin6613brokenbauer is what we call them
Outstanding 👍
This is the sort of game changer that regular fire engines need. You can see the deployment speed comparison between the nose nozzle and the manual hose reel. Brilliant. Thank you for sharing this.
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Yeaaaaa nooooo
Almost every department in the USA has a fast water applicator and it is hardly ever used. It is called The Deck Gun! It can be put into action as fast as the engineer can bring up the pressure.
So how do you clean up the highly toxic firefighting foam? Nice work boys!
Excellent and curious if electric vehicle fires may be requiring more foam attacks? Great job on the truck!
We're waiting for a chance to find out, but better for everyone if that takes a while. Statistically, it's only a matter of time.
Excellent comment. EV fires as we all know take a HUGE amount of water to knock down. Having an ARFF rig like this might just be what ALL depts will need to fight that type of serious fire. And with all these EV's being sold, and what we all know about them, there will be many EV fires in the very near future.
The P-19 carries 1000 gallons of water, and 130 gallons of foam concentrate.
You're going to need a water supply early on with an EV fire that's REALLY going good. 1000 gallons ain't gonna do it.
The foam use? Really may or may not do much good... the problem is when the battery is in thermal runaway, you've got to use plenty of water to overcome that. AFFF isn't going to change that.
One of your bigger problems is getting the water where it needs to go on the vehicle to shut the thermal runaway down.
In Europe, one practice that seems to have gotten traction, is basically a big delivered container that can be filled with water, and then they pick up the vehicle and put it in the container, which addresses the runaway and contains everything.
Some reports I've gotten here in the US... is that you're talking about 12,000 gallons of water and several hours used up, trying to cope with an EV in full thermal runaway... and then, flat-bedding the thing to a wrecking yard and putting it somewhere away from everything, in case it renews its thermal runaway in hours or days after it was initially put out by the fire department.
EVs are just a problem right now, and while I'm sure we'll solve the puzzle on how to deal with them... for right now, I'm NOT looking forward to dealing with em.
@@gwencrawford737 Yeah, you’d likely need a bigger and newer ARFF truck like the 6x6 or 8x8 variants of the Oshkosh Striker, which hold 3000 and 4500 gallons of water, respectively
Well that takes "dump the monitor" to a WHOLE new level. Remarkably effective !
I worked on those trucks for 30 years, they are built to last unlike the new junk out there.
Fine work done here, and a nice standard-model P-19 as well. A P-19A or B would be slightly nicer to have, but these standard P-19s are more than effective as ARFF vehicles. Oshkosh made a nice and simple truck when they designed the P-19 as a supplement to the older P-4.
mmm... Foam spray cannon from the fire truck, does the job well.
Love the foam stuff, it works so incredibly fast!
Would you mind if I use some of this footage for my channel. I will shout you out and try to get some of my viewers here if you want.
It’s public record, technically, so use away! We’d appreciate the shout out!
@@ltfd Thanks. I didn’t want to just steal your stuff. I am a Lieutenant for State of Hawaii ARFF. Love your videos and can learn from them so thanks for your service and for posting
Hawaii. Sounds like an awful gig. Anything we can do to help pass the time! 😂😉 Appreciate ya asking! We’ll hopefully dig up some more.
If you use the footage, what will you call it??? How to get rid of PFAS foam? How to contaminate an entire neighborhood in 5 minutes? Cancer 101? Just wondering.
Man, every department should have an ARFF truck lol. Ton of water with a remote deck gun for limited staffing, and a quick deploy booster reel for close up work. Pretty efficient!
Muy buena preparasion. Los felisito. Asi deber estar listo para astuar
😂 Oh man that’s it only a minute 27? I was on pins and needles excited to get to the back of the truck then BOOOOOM, wait what happened the video stopped…
It's from our archives. We'll get longer videos in the future!
what a fucking waste.. fire like this you can easly take down in like 20 seconds if you have fully trained firefighters..
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Yuppp! That was f’in fast. Nice work!
These ARFF trucks can also be very effective in initial attack on forest fires 🔥 if used quickly! Think of the Almeda fire in Southern Oregon a couple of years ago! They sure could've used them for that terrible fire!
Not really. The size and scope of forest fires, and the lack of availability of ARFF trucks means it's very unlikely they'd be of use.
@@ffjsbthe range of the turrets make them very effective if they are available. I believe the forest service actually uses a few 8X8 4500’s .
@@ohcrap3263 The chances that you'd get to use one for anything other than aircraft fires are slim and none. If the forest service has them, it's because they got them surplus and paid almost nothing for them. But the government shouldn't have that many that they are giving them away either.
thats the fastest ive ever seen a line get charged. great job !!!!!!!!!!!
That wasn't a semi fire, that was definitely on fire.
Hello from Australia, you fire fighters do a great job, thank you for your service.
You should see what the roof turret does at 750gpm out of that Oshkosh P19
Thats the way to do it! Great job!
So stell ich mir einen Schnellangriff vor❤
Camera man had 1 job. Keep his fingers out of the cell phone camera lens. Couldn’t do it.
Bruh camera man was in charge what you talkin about
Usually the water to fire is measures in many minutes, this was seconds.
Oshkosh B'gosh
❤❤😂😂they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right wonder what the couse was stay safe and warm out there way to go !!! Joe ❤😂😂
Lies. That was definitely a whole fire
Very intrigued Crash Truck sent out as first due. Brilliant!
Not a second wasted on that foam application.
One second on the scene and the spring into action to save the day very impressive fire fighting🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
On air before getting out. Not any wasted breaths 👌
Come on, using an airport rig is cheating :D
How to put out a truck fire in less than a minute, or at least knock down the bulk of the fire. Foam on the fire 8 seconds after wheels stop turning. Hand line in operation within 26 seconds. Is that standard procedure in your FD to have a crash truck respond on truck fires? If so, it definitely worked.
Yes, it is -- we have it primarily because we cover Toledo Executive Airport, but it does wonders on vehicle fires and brush fires!
Vgghh
The ARFF crew was on point and it probably beats babysitting an airport all day.
ARFF28 is actually staffed by home-response, paid-per-call members who staff whatever rig we need out the door at a moment's notice. Clearly, they train on it quite a bit!
@@ltfdhow much water does this firetruck hold?
Blimey, I blinked and the fire was almost out. Great response by this crew, helps having the right equipment and knowing how to use it.Well done from the UK.
Not a chance! That nozzle does not have a good Line of Sight on the main burning material. The trailer. All he did was totally drown the cockpit to the point it would be filled to the windowsills and most of their onboard water would be wasted.
This reminds me when south metro had to use their airport rescue units for a semi truck fire on one of their interstates
We used to have a remote monitor with CAFS and pump and roll on every engine and brush. Very effective when used correctly. Then we got a new chief who decided that hundreds of gallons of water and more exposure for employees was the way to go. He didnt last long, but was there long enough to have ALL of the CAFS and front monitors removed. That was part of why he didnt last...as it was unbelievably expensive. He wasn't satisfied with just changing the SOP...he had it all completely removed.
What a douche that guy was...
Being a chief who loves her job and having the privilege of taking care of her firefighters and citizens, THAT makes my heart ache.
You sized him up exactly right. A complete douche.
We white hats are supposed to set our firefighters up for success and minimize the risks they have to take where we can, while helping them maximize performance. Only an absolute moron throws good, effective equipment and tactics out the window.
We had a massive Racing Fuel Manufacture fire here a few years ago. City crews were having problems with knockdown until a Chief requested an ARFF unit from the local airport...knockdown was effected within a half hour or so upon the ARFF's arrival.
holy crap a smart fire department!
When it pulled up to the scene, I was wondering what type of apparatus it was, then the foam shot out! Great hit on that fire!
It's like gta but real life😂
Wow, that fire got quenched nice and quick, these ARFF trucks are literally absolute units!
"Fascinating?" 🤔
Incredable, quick respone, and immidiatly spraying, that's the way to kill a fire...!!! >> compliments !!
Now THATS a Fire Truck ! ! ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
That's what I call a 🔥 truck
Thumbs up to all Emergency personnel, Fire, Police and Ambulance.
Outstanding job! Cool to see these videos from our local fire departments!
36 second mark....air brakes engaged.....38 second mark....wet stuff on red stuff....never before have I seen that efficiency on a fire ground....likely a well trained department and a kick-butt FMO behind the wheel!
Just curious, not critical! How was an ARFF unit even close by? Did y'all see that pump and roll action though? Whoo hoo! lol
Airport fire engines can fight fires faster than regular city fire engines. If a car is burning in the city it can take a few minutes to hook up the hose to the pumps of the truck. so I was wondering why many cities do not have trucks remote controlled water cannons at the front.
I guess budget reasons are the cause. As firefighting equipment can be expensive.
Vvvv❤
يبدو ان هذه الوحدة تابعة لمطار قريب من موقع الحريق . لا استغرب المباشرة السريعة لاطفاء الحريق بكل احترافية كون وحدات اطفاء الحريق بالمطارات لديهم تدريب عالي وعربات مجهزة جيداً ،
Huh, US firefighters who actually start to fight fire as soon as they arrive: completely new for me.
Normally they start rolling hoses, look at each other, runs some more hoses and minutes later MAYBE some water starts to flow.
I am flabbergasted
Most such fire suppressing foams contain highly toxic and very long lived flourocarbons. Not good, especially close to water flows, wells or lakes.
Downside to getting equipment made for runways is that runways are flat, outside of airports it isn't. We had a 4000 gallon tanker on our department that we got from an airport and we have lots of hills throughout town. Uphill with it fully loaded top speed was 10-12 mph.
Fairfax County used to keep an ARFF type near a major I interstate cloverleaf in Alexandria, VA.
This is why we pay taxes.
Labor pays a higher percentage of their income than landlords & investors do. We gotta fix that or we, as a people, will end. Then no one has cool firetrucks and nice roads, just walls and fences and guns.
25 seconds and they had a hose on the fire. Don't see many departments doing that.
The fire fighting was very good. The videography ...not so much. I prefer less fingers.
I dtove by a car fire once. I was almost 20 feet away and the blast of heat was incredible. I can't imagine how much heat this thing was putting off.
I thought the airport fire department was pulling up for a second. You never see rigs like that being used by municipalities.
Foam works better with a power cone or fog pattern boys. That’s was an expensive extinguishment. Foam is not cheep right now.
That was cool,yep every big city needs a truck like that one .
Seeing how almost every big city has an international airport. They all do have rigs like these. They just aren't allowed to leave the airport grounds. Lots of big cities have foam trucks that accomplish basically the same thing.
@@eriksand9262 actually Crash tenders do go on runs outside of airports if requested but most of the time they only will respond to aircraft down calls.
They're not restricted to only airfields they are used for other incidents too if they are needed but it's not common , they're only dispatched if there is a serious threat to the safety of fire personnel because a ARFF crash tender can put a fire out pretty quickly while keeping the personnel out of harms way. They're also used if they're the closest unit to the incident outside of the airport and other units are still enroute.
@@josephbennett3482 There's FAA MINIMUM manning, so they can't just run off the airport all the time. Danger to fire personnel has nothing to do with it.
@@ffjsb in many places the ARFF aren't even at the airport itself they're at the closest fire station to the airport and are manned by the firefighters of that station where the tender is and the tender has to be taken to the airport , my regional airport is like that one of the township fire stations where my airport is houses the crash tender off-site and when an emergency occurs they are dispatched to the airport.
@@josephbennett3482 It depends on the size of the airport. There are specific FAA regulations as to how much equipment is required, and the minimum response times required.
Wish this video were longer so we could at least see some motorist pulling up and asking if the road is closed.
How'd you know?!
@@ltfd - It was a joke, get a sense of humor. The joke comes from decades in law enforcement where we'd have the road blocked because of a bad accident in sight, a fire where you can see all the fire trucks with their hoses stretched across the road with a building on fire etc. and there's always someone who will try to drive around the police cars if the officer has their attention turned or someone will pull up and ask "Is the road closed?" or "Can I go through?" Sometimes followed by the "...but how am I going to get home?" Often it's someone who has been driving too and from work the same way for years and all of a sudden, there's a monkey wrench thrown into their travel and they have a difficult time figuring out that you just have to go around the block.
@@joed9491 Our initial response was us playing along with the joke...
@@ltfd - Ahh, guess it could've been taken both ways like My Cousin Vinny and "I shot the clerk". LOL. I know you people dealt with those drivers too, especially running over the fire hoses, I just wish we were issued a pair of scissors and the ability to cut up their drivers licenses right on the spot!
Just like the old ATM Crash trucks on base at Andros Island, Bahamas.
Older p19, love it, airleaks everywhere but doesn't break, ever 😁
AMazing that there were no spectators milling around !!!
Okay. That was pretty badass, actually.
😊 Well burnished is realm deem Colonel water cannon first your a fireman aggressive
When an airport truck gets the call...hold my beer kiddos I have food on the stove back at the station
wow they have a airport truck.. they must handle a local airport i guess
Now that's a badass piece of equipment. Money well spent
GPMs beat BTUs anytime. Great knock down
This has to be the fastest arrival to application of water scenario I have ever seen, i took only 10 seconds, flat, from the engine stop to the flow to start.
Hey guy bossing the guys around, let them do their job, or don your gear and give up your bugles!!
As a former firefighter/engineer, we trained extensively with crash units. Based on this experience, I have long believed that departments would benefit from having a crash unit for calls such as this. They are a high-ticket item, but so is the value of lives and property they can protect. The ROSENBAUER Panther 4x4, in particular, is highly maneuverable, and has features that no conventional pumper can match. Instant-on 1500 gallons of light-water, foam, and dry chem, that can extinguish large difficult fires in seconds! That, combined with pump and roll, off-road travel, and stand-off, are just a few attributes. -Hats off to this department on how quickly and professionally, they handled this call.
Why bother spending all that money for what basically amounts to a big dumpster fire??? Most engines have a deck gun, and could knock down this fire as well, without using thousands of dollars worth of foam.
I live close to a regional airport with three Ziegler Z8. With about 10 hours every day without any flights, you freequently see these ARFFs on other calls. They are pretty capable and where frequently used around here on wildland fires, but for the money of one ARFF you can pretty much buy 2-3 other fire trucks. And the capabilities are not that unique, around here all the off-road water tenders are equipped for wildland fires (master stream, pump and roll in first gear), only the foam capabilities are missing.
@@danielrose1392 You can add foam to the tank beforehand if needed.
@@ffjsb Not really, the foam always goes in an extra tank. Otherwise you would have to dump the whole load, even if you don't need that much foam.
@@danielrose1392 WRONG. You clearly don't know anything about foam solutions or how to use them.
This fire dept wasn't fucking around
Hell of a mess to clean up it looks like.
Netflix: "are you still watching?"
Very well done on firefighter taking a hose and attacking the fire.
Not first unrolling a lot of hose before water flows
Never mind knocked down that fire ran away screaming!
Way too fast! Usually it takes many minutes before they get water on flames.