This just crossed my mind: If Denise Crosby would have been cast as ships counselor, it would have been quite hilarious if Worf had taken over for her xD
I remember watching the series debut episode with several friends. Everyone was convinced that Riker’s character was Anson Williams ( Pottsie) from Happy Days. The decision for Riker to grow a beard was a very good one, in that it made his character look much more mature and distinguished.
Great! Thank you. I just would add that we can notice how much Data developed through the series by his appearances in the last episode, where we can see the "original" Data, very cheerful and inquisitive, when even the time-traveller Picard takes a moment to realize and admire this.
It absolutely breaks my heart every time I watch TNG and see Tasha die, she was an absolute favorite of mine and I really do wish Denise Crosby reconsidered and stayed...but goodness knows what would have happened to Michael Dorn as Worf...
I thought most tragic was not her departure, but the pitiful manner in which she died-a tar blob ate her? What writer wrote that, and was he in fifth or sixth grade at the time?
@@jpp7783 I know it wasn’t very heroic or dramatic, it was like ripping a bandaid off. There was a recurring theme of Worf getting his ass kicked throughout TNG and it was supposed to convey “Wow, this bad guy of the week is so strong he took out Worf with one punch” because it has been well established that Klingons are tough cookies, and to show the seriousness of the threat is to take out the toughest guy in the room. This is the feeling I get about Tasha dying from the evil blob in one blow, we all know how fit, smart, and strong she was throughout the first season. These qualities that made her the chief of security for a reason, and to have killed so effortlessly by evil blob is to show how much of a threat to the away team and the Enterprise it was.
What always amused me about the doors was that they were inconsistent. Sometimes a character would be halfway down the corridor before they finally closed, and sometimes they closed so fast they almost nipped his butt lol. Oh, and in one episode of TOS, there was actually a normal door with a door knob.
That door with the knob is - obviously - the stress relief door. I mean, did you ever try to slam a sliding door when angry? Star fleet used these before they opted for on board counselors.
The other thing about the doors is that they’re context aware, many times someone will turn and approach a door, it won’t open, so they’ll turn around and finish a conversation so that the doors will open.
I always loved the story about how they broke Patrick Steward by the end of the first season, from a straight Shakespearean actor, to basically being more like the rest of the cast and messing about.
Patrick was pretty consistent in his interviews that he wasn't a sci-fi fan and didn't know Star Trek. I think his background of being a more shakespearean actor rather than coming from sci-fi gave more depth and less cheese to his portrayal of the character.
Hi Jim Y. Everyone was a Karate Chop expert during that time weren't they? Mannix, Honey West, Danger Man, Burkes Law, they all had to do some choppin,... Have a Great one!
Another thing that I am aware of that I can't un-see now is that every time there is damage on the bridge, in addition to the shaking camera, there are always rocks thrown onto the floor of the set, except one episode where instead they use sand, but every other episode it is rocks! I now notice the rocks every time I watch the reruns of the Rick Berman era series.
The rocks in explosions always got me. Its a metal ship, where did the rocks come from? Lol there are alot of these sorts of things in the show that don't make sense
Always sparks, immediate fire. Some random crew member would die, etc. Just like the away missions when you’d have 3 main characters and some nobody go, you knew they just went to die lol.
What about Michael Dorn portraying his own grandfather in the Star Trek VI movie "Undiscovered Country" [this character's name is also Worf (the father of Mogh)].
Fun fact about the star curtain: The camera can't really move during these shots other than panning otherwise the illusion is ruined, since the stars are very close to the window and if the camera moved it would be obvious. There is a shot in Deep Space 9 at some point where they actually move the camera in Sisko's office and for a few seconds you can tell the stars are just spots on a curtain.
In the Star Trek TNG Companion book they had the original casting call that was sent out and I remember being surprised about the changes when I read it in the 90s (back when this information wasn't readily available online). There was the change mentioned flipping Troi and Yar along with the name. Also that Wesley Crusher was originally supposed to be a girl named Leslie Crusher.
The door noise thing I learned from _Reading Rainbow_ when LeVar Burton visited the TNG set. I have a set of sliding doors on my closet. Always have. They never made the racket TNG's doors do. My house was built before TOS hit the air.
DS9 saved the Ferengi. In TNG they were an annoyance, no one really liked them and would rather see the Federation deal with Romulans or Cardasians. Then DS9 took the Ferengi they were annoying at first, but as the series went on they became a comedic wonder. How can you not like a Ferengi when you know they're going to do something to make you laugh.
Their appearance in TNG always bugged me since it's pretty clear they were meant as cartoonishly stupid (and they're also kind of a racist depiction) as a way of contrasting the Federations benevolent socialism vs the Frenegis vicious capitalism.
Given the awkward pace and unsure feeling of TNG season one, I’m really surprised it was picked up for a second season at all. Fortunately though, the producers & writers refined their product, greatly developed key characters and established doctrine that would carry the series through a long run and several spin-offs and big screen productions.
Mike M This was not a new show. This was a show that came with a lot of baggage because of the existing TOS fanbase. The producers were trying to create the old TOS atmosphere in some episodes, while others hinted at the direction they wanted to go in future seasons. There was no surprise that it was greenlit for a second season.
I actually knew about the transporter room ceiling being the old TOS pads from a behind the scenes tour video from the Star Trek Experience in Las Vegas... sad that no one wanted to host that after the Hilton kicked it out.
It was also mentioned on that show Frakes hosted previewing All Good Things and looking back at the whole show. It was called "Journey's End The Saga Of Star Trek The Next Generation".
And Berlinghoff Rasmussen from "A Matter of Time" was written with Robin Williams specifically in mind. It is *so* easy watching the episode back to imagine Williams in the role.
As for Wharf's head: The original one looked bizarre and uncomfortably weird. I thought they had intentionally redesigned it to have the iconic pattern, not that weird, genital-resembling blob. Also the colours suddenly matched the rest of his face. So thanks to whoever stole it. :D
@@mikem6176 Neither Worf nor his peers can dock a starship to a wharf nor to pier, but perhaps star doc Crusher could dock 'er to a star dock and not crush 'er.
@@mikem6176 Archer can arch 'er over but does Sisko's sis know the correct Jane way or will she just Rik 'er? Would Sulu go sue the loo or would Kirk drink James Tea, simply because he Khan? Would Christopher Pike help Chris top her pike?
Leaving the show was probably the worst decision that Denise Crosby ever made. Her movie career she wanted never took off, and she gave up millions and millions of dollars in royalties from syndication.
The irony being, she just was never hot enough to have a career based on her looks, & her acting was never good enough to have a huge career based on talent. Like the Pale Rider said: "A (wo)man has got to know (her)his limitations..." ;-)
I am always remember wit hsadness about the actress's departure and his character's death, but in my readings about TNG I understood her motives and support her decision. The first season had several bad and male chauvinist moments, and the development of characters did not exist. Gates McFadden also left at the end of the first season, and Patrick Stewart was not sure he would be on the series. Could be the Doctor Crusher to die, also. If any part should have taken the right action, it was production. I would love to see the development of Tasha Yarr!
There wouldn't have been any inconsistencies if it wasn't for Trials and Tribulations. All they needed to do was have Worf be an old style Klingon for that episode. Because they always looked like that, but didn't have the budget. And if you're not cool with that, you need to get your head out of your back orifice.
@@toddnolastname4485 Yeah, my understanding is that the movie and TNG era style (though the look evolved) was always the intent, but budgets being what they were they couldn't do it so we ended up with Mexican looking Commie stand-ins. If done today, it could easily be solved with digitally "ridging" the old footage and pretending that's how they always did look.
In Alien, Sigourney Weaver and Veronica Cartright were switched last minute too. Also, John Hurt was originally supposed to burst out of Crewman Xenomorph's chest.
Data's growth was inconsistent during the series (depending on the writers, I guess), but it really comes to a head in The Most Toys when he decides to kill Fajo, and then lies about it to Riker.
They sound like this when they open... Rumble-rumble-crunch (OUCH my hand AGAIN! [cursing]), and sound like this when they close... Rumble-rumble-thud (ARGGH my nose AGAIN! the f...!). HoPe ThAt HeLpS.
Swing by the Star Trek Original Series Set Tour in Ticonderoga NY and you can hear it first hand. I can tell you they're actually wood closet doors on rollers and pulleys so they make a "bonk" sound when they close together.
I really admired Picard and his leadership style. As I graduated from university and began my climb in management I did tailor my approach and it seemed to work. Hard to believe that TNG ended 28 years ago
Totally different from Kirk. Kirk would often lose his temper and act irrationally. Picard always seemed in control. Kirk in the sane situations as Picard was in probably would have started a war with the Romulans.
@@gregrowe1168 don’t forget the timing of each series. It is like Russia vs US. In the 60’s mortal enemies then glasnost and they became closer. Unfortunately they have regressed again.
The actress who played Vasquez in Aliens wasn't Latina either. Her name is slipping my brain right now, but she was John Connor's foster mom in Terminator 2 and the 3rd class Irish mom with the two small kids in Titanic.
Um... the Klingon ridges were noticed in a time-travel episode and later fully explained in Star Trek: Enterprise. The ridges were always there. Those surviving their experimentation with human augmentation and its viral infection left many Klingons ridgeless, a fault they later cured.
@@toddnolastname4485 It did explain the TOS and TOS movie to later TNG and after episodes on Klingon race cosmetics. The ST:E episode(s) on that was a great explanation of that. Nothing in canon otherwise explained it and ST:E was accepted as canon before the expanse crap.
Actually I can totally picture Spirits as a din't-mess-with-me Yar and Crossby playing a mother-like, empathetic (or rather empath) counsellor. Might even have been a better fit I believe. But then again the Troy we got, though not at all my favourite, is pretty unique.
When Denise Crosby who played Lt. Tasha Yar left the show and I never found out why, I watched "Star Trek: The Next Generation" for a while, but then lost interest in it. I really liked Denise's character a lot. She's probably the real reason that I didn't want to see TNG, but when she returned in an episode involving an alternate time, I was thrilled to see her back, even though it was temporary, but I'm also glad she came back for the series' finale too. Once a trekkie always a trekkie!
It seems unlikely that the theft of a single Worf prosthetic forehead could force a redesign. Fresh prosthetics were made constantly, as they are made of foam rubber and absorb sweat like a sponge. More likely is that the character was simply redesigned because the season one look sucked. The Worf redesign improved the look of the character significantly. They further redesigned his forehead and hair in later seasons (for the worse, IMO.) So while someone may have indeed stolen a prosthetic forehead, unless it was the original sculpt that would not be an issue.
I seem to remember an interview with Michael Dorn I saw on TV when I was a kid where he spoke about how either the mask or the glue used to attach it in the first season would do horrible things to his skin which led to changes in what was used, might be something to do with that if I'm not misremembering
After 30+ years after it was cancelled, I'm still learning things. Captain Picard stayed in a hotel because he thought the show was going to be cancelled. Security Cheif Deanna Troy Ship's counselor Tasha Yar with four boobs. And the doors. I really enjoyed this video Keep up the good work
The black curtain with silver sequins was a cost cutting measure. To do it digitally they would first have to index where the camera was pointing, then add in the field with the correct offset. Plus all green had to be removed from every costume. Simpler to point a camera in the right direction take picture. Zero post production time used.
The beginning season was all over, even episode 3, if I remember right, The crew got a Drunken Luv Bug thingy, and Data had No Problem taking care of Tasha, as he was Fully equipped and Programmed in many ways of Pleasure Fulfillment!!! Crazy.. Was in my Teens, so w my jam! Health to all!..... ✌️
On the Transporter lights, you would have gotten bonus points if you had said what they were from. Technically, the only part that was used, were the Fresnel lens from Mole-Richardson lights. (I forget if they were from 5k's or 10k's specifically).
Or that the cleavage cut for the green/teal dress in Season 3 was asymmetrical. Didn't realize it until SFDebris pointed it out in one of his TNG reviews.
I'm glad TNG didnt do the whole 'everybody is good looking and perfect' thing that we get nowadays and left Picard bald. It's unrealistic, most people (including myself) are not 100% Greek God/Goddess level pleasing to the eye. Especially when age creeps up on folk.
Even as a balding guy that doesn't really care, if there was some super high tech, safe, trivially easy method of making my hair grow like it used to, of course I would get it. Also there is the issue that when the default is moved, people don't suddenly become uniform. Merely the line of attractive, fit, etc. gets adjusted. Most of us would likely be considered more attractive in the distant past if only, because we lack so much of the ubiquitous scarring from childhood diseases.
The reason that is given for the change in the ridges is because there was a virus that specifically affected Klingons. The virus left the species permanently scared and is hereditary. As word said at one point Klingons don’t like to talk about it. It think he said this in the trials and tribblaltions episode in ds9.
Didn’t it happen because the Klingons attempted to genetically engineer themselves like humans did during the eugenics wars, but it backfired and took away the ridges?
I wish they never explained it. I wish that when Worf beamed down in Trials and Tribblations he was suddenly in the old style Klingon makeup and no one noticed.
Neat that NextGen introduced the Ferengi, the Cardies, and re-introduced the Romulans thus giving a sense of expansion through known space. I always thought of the Romulans as the primary antagonists of the series. From there, each series crew had a primary foe and a super-foe. NextGen had Romulans and Borg, DS9 had Cardassians and Dominion, and Voyager had Kaisons (early on) and Species 8472.
The ferengi were originally supposed to be big antagonists during the run of the show, but Everyone HATED the way the Ferengi were portrayed. They were so over the top, they came off like cartoon villains. That’s why the Romulans were pushed to be bigger villains.
There's another interesting progression there, @@aaronlusanko6356. Originally, Klingons were the primary foe and Romulans debut slightly later. Come NextGen, Klingons honor their peace treaties, Rommies are the foe in focus, and Cardassians are exposited as the fiends on the fringe. DS9 seems to be set far from Romulus and close to Cardassia so they're the old and new primary enemies, respectively. There's a DS9 where the Romulans have determined it's in their best interest to send over a cloak. An expert on its use comes along to train the Defiant crew up to intermediate levels with its use. I was hoping she'd be a permanent addition to the cast. TNG had a Klingon officer so it followed that DS9 could have a Romulan liaison. She didn't stay past that one episode, though.
Deep Space Nine actually glances over the fact that Kilngons didn't always have head ridges in the episode where they go back in time. With Worf simply saying "its a long story".
@@ZyphyrFlux I just looked it up and we're both right. He says "it's a long story" and when asked to elaborate by Miles and Julian he says "we do not discuss it with outsiders"
I really liked Worf's original brow ridge. It's a bit less prominent, but more sharply defined, and the way it meets the brow ridge looks fiercer. I kinda liked him in the red uniform, as well, before he transitioned into Yar's position on the crew. But I thought his redesigned baldric was a distinct improvement over the more traditional TOS style one he wore in season 1.
They were definitely trying to tie TNG back to TOS firmly with specific decisions like the sash Worf wore. (Which was actually borrowed from TOS props and used on screen in TOS in a few episodes with Klingons.)
Thumbnail of Tasha and Deana in each others uniforms was.....interesting to say the least. I don't see Deanna as "security" nor Tasha as "counselor" material.
It was so much harder to make, so much more expensive, and still TNG is the best Syfy series, ever. Well, still, maybe The Orville is gonna surpass it.
I'm a sucker for all things Star Trek, having grown up watching reruns of the original show. My parents took me to a "Midnight Movie" on campus when I was very young, maybe 10. It was in a lecture hall and the film was "Star Trek Bloopers." Hilarious. In any event, like a lot of people, I felt that "The Next Generation" (especially after the first season to get the kinks out) was in the spirit of the original. That said, I love all the various series, and the movies. Humans being the best we can be never gets boring.
TNG needed a "Spock" character and Data was perfect. Filling the role while feeling like an original, unique character. Also, again, after the first season, Patrick Stewart anchored the production with serious acting chops. His presence sold the show as serious and authentic.
Sure as hell better than Gene Rodenberry's original explanation of blaming the low resolution of 1960s cameras for not showing the ridges that were "obviously" there. It also pays off the speculation by Bashir and O'Brien in the DS9 episode "Trials and Tribble-ations", in which they asked whether it was due to a virus or genetic manipulation.
The most important, difficult, interesting episode. I'm so glad there are others who like it. Do you think having traditional English acting helped.a bit of Shakespeare is here I think
Honestly, the four breasted thing wouldn't have been as bad. I had heard it was three, but Gene was convinced due to issues with fitting the prosthetic, presumably after the roles were swapped. Had it been four, they could have put the second two beneath the first and not have things be so... Crowded.
Armin Shimerman also played the Ferengi Daimon in "Peak Performance" who attacks the Enterprise while they're doing simulated wargames against a clunky old ship captained by Riker. It's really quite a good episode to end season 2 on. "Shades of Grey" never happened, it's a deepfake.
I was really annoyed when they killed off Tasha Yar. I quite liked the character and I would have really liked to have seen Data have more of a personal life. Although Worf was the obvious replacement as the ships security officer, I think a Klingon security officer had too much of a predictable outcome.
Gene Roddenberry originally intended Deanna Troi to be a four breasted Hermaphrodite but one of the shows writers convinced him to change the character.
also ran over Denise Crosby at the first convention I went to, come from the entrance hall into the convention main room was a blind corner and we rounded the corners from the opposite directions, but luckily managed to stop in time, also got to share an escalator ride with Peter Mayhew so that was cool
I believe the only time Patrick Stewart wore a wig on the show was in a flashback scene where he walks to up to Beverly Crusher and tells her that her husband Jack died on a mission.
And what a terrible wig it was, but rather thats the only time he wore a wig as Picard, stewart plays random holodeck characters here and there, particularly when data does Shakespeare. He is wearing wigs and fake noses and such but its him.
Some people are so shallow. Don't people realize that all these men and women spend hours every morning in a makeup chair? And in the gym? They are so one trick pony for the most part.
Brent Spiner is a great actor. He has been convincingly effective with his role as Data/Sherlock Holmes etc.
His new role in Picard was great, too! I got all teary at seeing him manage to come back despite his main character being gone.
Yeah, and it was a very complex character to play, really required TALENT. He did an impressive job.
Gail Chord Schuler
I saw him As John Adams in 1776 on broadway in the 90's and he was very good
I remember his role in Independence Day too, played a very convincing crazy scientist.
This just crossed my mind:
If Denise Crosby would have been cast as ships counselor, it would have been quite hilarious if Worf had taken over for her xD
He would have refused and his explanation would be, "Uncomfortable chair."
interesting.
😃😀 that would have been funny
Worf's go-to advice as ship's counsellor would have been "Today IS a good day to die!".
@@barneys4236 LOL
I remember watching the series debut episode with several friends. Everyone was convinced that Riker’s character was Anson Williams ( Pottsie) from Happy Days. The decision for Riker to grow a beard was a very good one, in that it made his character look much more mature and distinguished.
I always thought riker was modeled after Kirk.
Data was inspired by Spock I believe.
I, for one, thought the resemblance to Pottsie was uncanny.
"It is a beard, Geordi! A fine, full, dignified beard. One which commands respect, and projects thoughtfulness and dignity!"
@@gregrowe1168 Theres literally a emotional detached Character in every Star Trek Show. Its either a Vulcan, a Robot or a freaking Hologram.
Great! Thank you.
I just would add that we can notice how much Data developed through the series by his appearances in the last episode, where we can see the "original" Data, very cheerful and inquisitive, when even the time-traveller Picard takes a moment to realize and admire this.
It absolutely breaks my heart every time I watch TNG and see Tasha die, she was an absolute favorite of mine and I really do wish Denise Crosby reconsidered and stayed...but goodness knows what would have happened to Michael Dorn as Worf...
They would have dated
@@user-jt5vm3mi1w probably, but I meant what would have Michael Dorn would be doing on the show as Worf, since he slide in and took over her position
@@IronMan3582 also if she had stayed. Would he later when on to DS9. I thought he was better on that show.
I thought most tragic was not her departure, but the pitiful manner in which she died-a tar blob ate her? What writer wrote that, and was he in fifth or sixth grade at the time?
@@jpp7783 I know it wasn’t very heroic or dramatic, it was like ripping a bandaid off. There was a recurring theme of Worf getting his ass kicked throughout TNG and it was supposed to convey “Wow, this bad guy of the week is so strong he took out Worf with one punch” because it has been well established that Klingons are tough cookies, and to show the seriousness of the threat is to take out the toughest guy in the room. This is the feeling I get about Tasha dying from the evil blob in one blow, we all know how fit, smart, and strong she was throughout the first season. These qualities that made her the chief of security for a reason, and to have killed so effortlessly by evil blob is to show how much of a threat to the away team and the Enterprise it was.
What always amused me about the doors was that they were inconsistent. Sometimes a character would be halfway down the corridor before they finally closed, and sometimes they closed so fast they almost nipped his butt lol. Oh, and in one episode of TOS, there was actually a normal door with a door knob.
Would have loved to actually here the sound, but just host monologue.
Having worked in places with automatic doors that honestly just makes them more realistic.
That door with the knob is - obviously - the stress relief door. I mean, did you ever try to slam a sliding door when angry? Star fleet used these before they opted for on board counselors.
Needed a couple cans of WD 40 for those doors
The other thing about the doors is that they’re context aware, many times someone will turn and approach a door, it won’t open, so they’ll turn around and finish a conversation so that the doors will open.
I always loved the story about how they broke Patrick Steward by the end of the first season, from a straight Shakespearean actor, to basically being more like the rest of the cast and messing about.
Then to rub salt into the wound, for the most popular high budget TNG episodes, they turned him into a Borg drone
Patrick was pretty consistent in his interviews that he wasn't a sci-fi fan and didn't know Star Trek. I think his background of being a more shakespearean actor rather than coming from sci-fi gave more depth and less cheese to his portrayal of the character.
*Stewart
@@christopheraaron1255*muppet
Well I'm glad the thumbnail was actually explained right at the end there.
Indeed. It's much better than when a popular UA-cam channel makes a thumbnail that has literally nothing to do with the video itself
I just wonder why Denise Crosby has 4 breasts.
To go along with the whole "Patrick Stewart didn't unpack for season 1" point, Ian MacKellen actually advised him NOT to take the role.
Magneto trying foil Xavier's plans again!!!
Stewart hates that Star Trek catapulted him...instead of his classical roles
@@ustrekkie92 LOL
Ian McKellen is very wise. He knows.....
Do you have a link because I doubt that is true as they did meet in 1970 but were not actually friends until they where on xmen together
I can't help but smile every time is see the Kirk karate chop.
Hell yes. That, and the _Infamous, DOUBLE PUNCH._
or the clasped hand hit..u know where they clasp their hands and swing their arms while hands are clasp..
@@GlennC789 good question...maybe cause the federation is mostly made up of pacifist
@@russellhoffmann8353 the dreaded "double axe handle."
Hi Jim Y. Everyone was a Karate Chop expert during that time weren't they? Mannix, Honey West, Danger Man, Burkes Law, they all had to do some choppin,... Have a Great one!
Another thing that I am aware of that I can't un-see now is that every time there is damage on the bridge, in addition to the shaking camera, there are always rocks thrown onto the floor of the set, except one episode where instead they use sand, but every other episode it is rocks! I now notice the rocks every time I watch the reruns of the Rick Berman era series.
The rocks in explosions always got me. Its a metal ship, where did the rocks come from? Lol there are alot of these sorts of things in the show that don't make sense
@@koba9463 maybe they think nobody will notice or they did it for dramatic effect ? It's just a tv show after all...
Always sparks, immediate fire. Some random crew member would die, etc. Just like the away missions when you’d have 3 main characters and some nobody go, you knew they just went to die lol.
What about Michael Dorn portraying his own grandfather in the Star Trek VI movie "Undiscovered Country" [this character's name is also Worf (the father of Mogh)].
as a kid that really confused me
Maybe Worf is eternal?
Fun fact about the star curtain: The camera can't really move during these shots other than panning otherwise the illusion is ruined, since the stars are very close to the window and if the camera moved it would be obvious.
There is a shot in Deep Space 9 at some point where they actually move the camera in Sisko's office and for a few seconds you can tell the stars are just spots on a curtain.
Interesting. And it made it into the final cut? I don't suppose you know what episode it was?
In the Star Trek TNG Companion book they had the original casting call that was sent out and I remember being surprised about the changes when I read it in the 90s (back when this information wasn't readily available online). There was the change mentioned flipping Troi and Yar along with the name. Also that Wesley Crusher was originally supposed to be a girl named Leslie Crusher.
Shut up, Leslie!
@@john091077 lmao
Mary Sue Crusher
I think I would have enjoyed watching a teen girl in the part, more. I wonder why they changed it?
@@imkluu Wil Wheaton didn't have the legs to pull it off.
Now we want '10 Amazing Behind The Scenes Secrets From Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.'
We do?
Voyager too! I was so taken aback thinking Voyager would be lame but actually LOVED, absolutely LOVED the series.
@Peter Angles I enjoyed it. I'm sorry you did not. Ah well, we ain't all the same I reckon ^_^
@Peter Angles shut up voyager is amazing
@@Kroggnagch If we all were, think of the terrible oatmeal shortage!
The door noise thing I learned from _Reading Rainbow_ when LeVar Burton visited the TNG set.
I have a set of sliding doors on my closet. Always have. They never made the racket TNG's doors do. My house was built before TOS hit the air.
So they open and close like they do in the show? Or are they just a run of the mill sliding door?
DS9 saved the Ferengi. In TNG they were an annoyance, no one really liked them and would rather see the Federation deal with Romulans or Cardasians. Then DS9 took the Ferengi they were annoying at first, but as the series went on they became a comedic wonder. How can you not like a Ferengi when you know they're going to do something to make you laugh.
Their appearance in TNG always bugged me since it's pretty clear they were meant as cartoonishly stupid (and they're also kind of a racist depiction) as a way of contrasting the Federations benevolent socialism vs the Frenegis vicious capitalism.
@@arthas640 Mercantilism, not Capitalism.
@@Foolish188 The correction isn't necessary. He thinks Race and Economic Model are the same thing.
@@Foolish188 I mean, I always did think that TNG Ferengi were just generic “money bad” characters
I had the chance to do a walk on on DS9 and in the sick bay I omoxed Quark not seen on the show,
William Shatner poking fun at the doors on Star Trek in Airplane 2 is hilarious.
The only good thing in that movie.
@@richardm3023 That, and "no bridge? WHY AM I NOT TOLD THESE THINGS"
The whole film was hilarious but clearly over your head
The extra windows were because of the drop in transparent aluminum prices.
Nice.
Transparent aluminum does exist, btw.
Given the awkward pace and unsure feeling of TNG season one, I’m really surprised it was picked up for a second season at all. Fortunately though, the producers & writers refined their product, greatly developed key characters and established doctrine that would carry the series through a long run and several spin-offs and big screen productions.
Mike M
This was not a new show. This was a show that came with a lot of baggage because of the existing TOS fanbase. The producers were trying to create the old TOS atmosphere in some episodes, while others hinted at the direction they wanted to go in future seasons. There was no surprise that it was greenlit for a second season.
I agree Mike M, the first series was awful
I hate Wesley crusher. Natasha yar is awful. Totally hate que. Far point Station is the worst episode
Agreed. I wasn't that impressed with the first season....especially the look of the women characters who were still wearing awful uniforms.
They’re lucky it was first-run syndication, so expectations weren’t quite as high as they would’ve been for a major network show.
LOL, Geordi wearing sci-fi googly eyes that lets him sleep while working!
It's amazing! Episodes are only 45 minutes but feel a lot longer! Editing was very good. Everything about this show is good!
I actually knew about the transporter room ceiling being the old TOS pads from a behind the scenes tour video from the Star Trek Experience in Las Vegas... sad that no one wanted to host that after the Hilton kicked it out.
I found out about it from the Star Trek: TNG 1994 viewers choice marathon hosted by Jonathan Frakes.
It was also mentioned on that show Frakes hosted previewing All Good Things and looking back at the whole show. It was called "Journey's End The Saga Of Star Trek The Next Generation".
Interesting connection: Worf's first head prosthetic was stolen. The original wigs for both the Cat and Ace Rimmer in Red Dwarf were stolen.
So there is a wig collector on the loose in the scifiscene. 😁
The actor who played the Traveller auditioned for Data.
Eric Menyuk!
And Berlinghoff Rasmussen from "A Matter of Time" was written with Robin Williams specifically in mind. It is *so* easy watching the episode back to imagine Williams in the role.
@@emeraldaly7646 HE, (like anything else he did) WOULD have killed it!
good thing we got Bob Wheeler instead.
They thought he was very good except for his unfortunate tendency to go out of dimensional phase during scenes. ;)
As for Wharf's head: The original one looked bizarre and uncomfortably weird. I thought they had intentionally redesigned it to have the iconic pattern, not that weird, genital-resembling blob. Also the colours suddenly matched the rest of his face. So thanks to whoever stole it. :D
Worf. Wharf is some place they dock ships
@@nctpti2073 Using just his head, Worf can dock the Enterprise. To a wharf.
@@mikem6176 Neither Worf nor his peers can dock a starship to a wharf nor to pier, but perhaps star doc Crusher could dock 'er to a star dock and not crush 'er.
@@nctpti2073 Captain Archer can anchor a starship with a bow & arrow.
@@mikem6176 Archer can arch 'er over but does Sisko's sis know the correct Jane way or will she just Rik 'er? Would Sulu go sue the loo or would Kirk drink James Tea, simply because he Khan?
Would Christopher Pike help Chris top her pike?
Ironically, in the literature continuation of the mirror universe, Deanna Troi is Picard’s security chief on the ‘Free Starship Enterprise’.
I always thought Jordy already had a completely different cadence to his voice, it's cuz he was the only cast member getting decent sleep.
I really think that Mr. Data was based on R. Daneel Olivaw in Asimov's expanded Foundation series.
Leaving the show was probably the worst decision that Denise Crosby ever made. Her movie career she wanted never took off, and she gave up millions and millions of dollars in royalties from syndication.
She joined a long list of people making bad career moves in The Biz.
Some people are given a chance and blow it. Others, never get a chance.
The irony being, she just was never hot enough to have a career based on her looks, & her acting was never good enough to have a huge career based on talent. Like the Pale Rider said: "A (wo)man has got to know (her)his limitations..." ;-)
I am always remember wit hsadness about the actress's departure and his character's death, but in my readings about TNG I understood her motives and support her decision. The first season had several bad and male chauvinist moments, and the development of characters did not exist.
Gates McFadden also left at the end of the first season, and Patrick Stewart was not sure he would be on the series. Could be the Doctor Crusher to die, also.
If any part should have taken the right action, it was production. I would love to see the development of Tasha Yarr!
@@jenergomes you mean 'bad and male chauvinist moments' on the show, or behind the scenes?
Enterprise explained the inconsistencies perfectly, how is that a mess?
My thoughts exactly.
There wouldn't have been any inconsistencies if it wasn't for Trials and Tribulations. All they needed to do was have Worf be an old style Klingon for that episode. Because they always looked like that, but didn't have the budget. And if you're not cool with that, you need to get your head out of your back orifice.
Thats a lot of guff for someone angry at a decent plot.
@@toddnolastname4485 Yeah, my understanding is that the movie and TNG era style (though the look evolved) was always the intent, but budgets being what they were they couldn't do it so we ended up with Mexican looking Commie stand-ins.
If done today, it could easily be solved with digitally "ridging" the old footage and pretending that's how they always did look.
quark did apear to have a lot of knowledge and understanding of the situation around him, so he did learn...
In Alien, Sigourney Weaver and Veronica Cartright were switched last minute too. Also, John Hurt was originally supposed to burst out of Crewman Xenomorph's chest.
Data's growth was inconsistent during the series (depending on the writers, I guess), but it really comes to a head in The Most Toys when he decides to kill Fajo, and then lies about it to Riker.
"The star-field was real"...that's not "real", that's called practical effects.
How about "physical"?
LOL I agree! I think he meant 'real' as in there was a real pop on set for it and it wasn't just another digitally layed on effect.
WOW!
Switching Troy and Yar was some crazy stuff!
I am glad it worked out though!
Still think Marina Sirtis is gorgeous. Saw her at a convention and was too shy to get her autograph! As lovely in the flesh as on the screen.😍
I'm shy too but I would've gotten an autograph.
@@jamminjohn but I’m a middle class British guy and I was scared to open my mouth in case I drooled!
Met her at a convention, she’s very approachable and tells hilarious stories about the show
@@jennifersman7990 I would love to meet her.
Smokin HOT!!
Sean,Marcus and Adam....... my three faves
You guys have a great way of presenting these videos...... fantastic work gents
The original engine prop from TOS is seen in a few different episodes of TNG
Dang, I wanted to hear the actual door sound.
Me too lol
Just watch any of the multitude of blooper videos of the cast running into the doors when the stage hands didn't open them on time...
They sound like this when they open... Rumble-rumble-crunch (OUCH my hand AGAIN! [cursing]), and sound like this when they close... Rumble-rumble-thud (ARGGH my nose AGAIN! the f...!). HoPe ThAt HeLpS.
@@edgyusername1269 haha
Swing by the Star Trek Original Series Set Tour in Ticonderoga NY and you can hear it first hand. I can tell you they're actually wood closet doors on rollers and pulleys so they make a "bonk" sound when they close together.
I really admired Picard and his leadership style. As I graduated from university and began my climb in management I did tailor
my approach and it seemed to work. Hard to believe that TNG ended 28 years ago
Totally different from Kirk. Kirk would often lose his temper and act irrationally. Picard always seemed in control. Kirk in the sane situations as Picard was in probably would have started a war with the Romulans.
@@gregrowe1168 don’t forget the timing of each series. It is like Russia vs US. In the 60’s mortal enemies then glasnost and they became closer. Unfortunately they have regressed again.
I knew about the Troi/Tasha switch...a great move by the producers.
The actress who played Vasquez in Aliens wasn't Latina either. Her name is slipping my brain right now, but she was John Connor's foster mom in Terminator 2 and the 3rd class Irish mom with the two small kids in Titanic.
Jeanette Goldstein I think she was called.
Yes, Jeanette Goldstein, she was also in Terminator 2
Goldstein has Brazilian heritage, hence empirically...
Um... the Klingon ridges were noticed in a time-travel episode and later fully explained in Star Trek: Enterprise. The ridges were always there. Those surviving their experimentation with human augmentation and its viral infection left many Klingons ridgeless, a fault they later cured.
As far as I'm concerned, that story is not canon.
@@toddnolastname4485 It did explain the TOS and TOS movie to later TNG and after episodes on Klingon race cosmetics. The ST:E episode(s) on that was a great explanation of that. Nothing in canon otherwise explained it and ST:E was accepted as canon before the expanse crap.
@@toddnolastname4485 so they always had ridges despite what ds9 said?
Actually I can totally picture Spirits as a din't-mess-with-me Yar and Crossby playing a mother-like, empathetic (or rather empath) counsellor. Might even have been a better fit I believe. But then again the Troy we got, though not at all my favourite, is pretty unique.
When Denise Crosby who played Lt. Tasha Yar left the show and I never found out why, I watched "Star Trek: The Next Generation" for a while, but then lost interest in it. I really liked Denise's character a lot. She's probably the real reason that I didn't want to see TNG, but when she returned in an episode involving an alternate time, I was thrilled to see her back, even though it was temporary, but I'm also glad she came back for the series' finale too. Once a trekkie always a trekkie!
It seems unlikely that the theft of a single Worf prosthetic forehead could force a redesign. Fresh prosthetics were made constantly, as they are made of foam rubber and absorb sweat like a sponge. More likely is that the character was simply redesigned because the season one look sucked. The Worf redesign improved the look of the character significantly. They further redesigned his forehead and hair in later seasons (for the worse, IMO.) So while someone may have indeed stolen a prosthetic forehead, unless it was the original sculpt that would not be an issue.
I seem to remember an interview with Michael Dorn I saw on TV when I was a kid where he spoke about how either the mask or the glue used to attach it in the first season would do horrible things to his skin which led to changes in what was used, might be something to do with that if I'm not misremembering
They redesigned Worf's head so Michael's make up could done in less time.
It wouldn't be the prosthetic that was stolen for the reasons you mention, it would be that the original cast or mold was stolen.
After 30+ years after it was cancelled, I'm still learning things.
Captain Picard stayed in a hotel because he thought the show was going to be cancelled.
Security Cheif Deanna Troy
Ship's counselor Tasha Yar with four boobs.
And the doors.
I really enjoyed this video
Keep up the good work
What about the corridor set?
It was used from ST: The Motion Picture, all the way to Nemesis. So, 10 movies, and 2 series?
Also the TMP bridge ended up being used as the TNG battle bridge.
The black curtain with silver sequins was a cost cutting measure. To do it digitally they would first have to index where the camera was pointing, then add in the field with the correct offset. Plus all green had to be removed from every costume. Simpler to point a camera in the right direction take picture. Zero post production time used.
The beginning season was all over, even episode 3, if I remember right, The crew got a Drunken Luv Bug thingy, and Data had No Problem taking care of Tasha, as he was Fully equipped and Programmed in many ways of Pleasure Fulfillment!!! Crazy.. Was in my Teens, so w my jam! Health to all!..... ✌️
I'm fairly sure he said "I am fully functional"
@@casinodelonge you are correct! Lol. I couldn’t remember exactly at the time.. 😁 Thx!
@@casinodelonge With knowledge on several techniques.
I had thought about Worf having different forehead ridges was because he was allergic mildly to the original one so they changed them.
10:15 proof that paraphrasing Tom Jones is always a good idea.
Those transport pads came from Forbidden Planet with Leslie Nielson.
I'd like to think that maybe klingon craniums are somewhat like teeth slowly changing or growing
I thought that
I loved Quark in DS9.
The Next Gen was my favorite show during its run! Love videos like this one. (second to comment, guess I'm not cosmic enough!)
Cheers for making this, mate.
On a side tangent, I think Trulane, from "The Squire of Gothos" in TOS was a Q. To me it fits very well.
Interesting idea. I like it :)
@@ericlewisauthor Really? That's wonderful :). Thank you for that.
@@ericlewisauthor Q-Squared was a really good book.
@@nitsud82 I've met Peter David.
On the Transporter lights, you would have gotten bonus points if you had said what they were from.
Technically, the only part that was used, were the Fresnel lens from Mole-Richardson lights. (I forget if they were from 5k's or 10k's specifically).
Now can you explain why Troi's costume kept getting smaller and smaller?
Is that a bad thing that it gets smaller?
Or that the cleavage cut for the green/teal dress in Season 3 was asymmetrical. Didn't realize it until SFDebris pointed it out in one of his TNG reviews.
We missed you, Adam!!!
I'm glad TNG didnt do the whole 'everybody is good looking and perfect' thing that we get nowadays and left Picard bald. It's unrealistic, most people (including myself) are not 100% Greek God/Goddess level pleasing to the eye. Especially when age creeps up on folk.
and it definitely does creep
Even as a balding guy that doesn't really care, if there was some super high tech, safe, trivially easy method of making my hair grow like it used to, of course I would get it. Also there is the issue that when the default is moved, people don't suddenly become uniform. Merely the line of attractive, fit, etc. gets adjusted. Most of us would likely be considered more attractive in the distant past if only, because we lack so much of the ubiquitous scarring from childhood diseases.
Ehm... bald IS good looking. He'd look silly with hair.
You can imagine the Hallmark version.....
@@karmabum21 Yes it does. Ensure you get the most out life you can, regret is a bitch to deal with.
I said the same thing as Bashir when, in early 1980, I saw Klingons in a movie theatre.
I’ve always imagined that “Puddin’ Head” would be an apt anti-Klingon “racial slur”...
Very interesting. Keep up the good work all.
The reason that is given for the change in the ridges is because there was a virus that specifically affected Klingons. The virus left the species permanently scared and is hereditary. As word said at one point Klingons don’t like to talk about it. It think he said this in the trials and tribblaltions episode in ds9.
Don't let Worf hear you saying that Klingons are permanently scared. Courage is a very serious matter for them.
Didn’t it happen because the Klingons attempted to genetically engineer themselves like humans did during the eugenics wars, but it backfired and took away the ridges?
True, but that was on the Enterprise show, and it was the Klingons trying to enhance themselves with the DNA from Khans blood, not a virus.
I wish they never explained it. I wish that when Worf beamed down in Trials and Tribblations he was suddenly in the old style Klingon makeup and no one noticed.
@@KEVMAN7987 that woulda been cool.
Neat that NextGen introduced the Ferengi, the Cardies, and re-introduced the Romulans thus giving a sense of expansion through known space. I always thought of the Romulans as the primary antagonists of the series.
From there, each series crew had a primary foe and a super-foe. NextGen had Romulans and Borg, DS9 had Cardassians and Dominion, and Voyager had Kaisons (early on) and Species 8472.
*Kazon
The ferengi were originally supposed to be big antagonists during the run of the show, but Everyone HATED the way the Ferengi were portrayed. They were so over the top, they came off like cartoon villains.
That’s why the Romulans were pushed to be bigger villains.
Al M: I guess you never watched TOS?
There's another interesting progression there, @@aaronlusanko6356. Originally, Klingons were the primary foe and Romulans debut slightly later. Come NextGen, Klingons honor their peace treaties, Rommies are the foe in focus, and Cardassians are exposited as the fiends on the fringe. DS9 seems to be set far from Romulus and close to Cardassia so they're the old and new primary enemies, respectively.
There's a DS9 where the Romulans have determined it's in their best interest to send over a cloak. An expert on its use comes along to train the Defiant crew up to intermediate levels with its use.
I was hoping she'd be a permanent addition to the cast. TNG had a Klingon officer so it followed that DS9 could have a Romulan liaison. She didn't stay past that one episode, though.
@@alm2187 actually the Romulans debuted first in the original series.
Shut up Wesley will never get old. 😂
Good video, I knew probably 4-5 of the points but still awesome.
Bloody hell, some of these are great, I knew about half but still great to hear you explore. Cheers. xx
YES!! 7:07-7:13 is the single funniest moment in TNG. That cracks me up every time. 🤣
*MOAR* TNG 🥰
Deep Space Nine actually glances over the fact that Kilngons didn't always have head ridges in the episode where they go back in time. With Worf simply saying "its a long story".
Something in the books was a virus that removed the ridges.
@@orionred2489 wouldn't it be a virus that CAUSED the ridges?
I think he said we do not speak of it
@@ZyphyrFlux I just looked it up and we're both right. He says "it's a long story" and when asked to elaborate by Miles and Julian he says "we do not discuss it with outsiders"
Yeah I remember him claiming up in that scene
The door “whoosh”:came from amplifying the sound of a close fitting piece of paper out of an envelope. Drawing it out for open, sliding it for close.
Armin Shimmermen and Ethan Phillips 7:12. 1st actor Recurred on DS9, while 2nd named actor Recurred as Nelix on Voyager.
I really liked Worf's original brow ridge. It's a bit less prominent, but more sharply defined, and the way it meets the brow ridge looks fiercer. I kinda liked him in the red uniform, as well, before he transitioned into Yar's position on the crew. But I thought his redesigned baldric was a distinct improvement over the more traditional TOS style one he wore in season 1.
They were definitely trying to tie TNG back to TOS firmly with specific decisions like the sash Worf wore. (Which was actually borrowed from TOS props and used on screen in TOS in a few episodes with Klingons.)
11:27 I would love to see some concept photos of that idea, for the... fan-research folder 😉😁
Thumbnail of Tasha and Deana in each others uniforms was.....interesting to say the least. I don't see Deanna as "security" nor Tasha as "counselor" material.
It's the hair.
As for the door sound.. I heard it is a thick piece of card going in an out of a large envelope.
It was so much harder to make, so much more expensive, and still TNG is the best Syfy series, ever. Well, still, maybe The Orville is gonna surpass it.
I'm a sucker for all things Star Trek, having grown up watching reruns of the original show. My parents took me to a "Midnight Movie" on campus when I was very young, maybe 10. It was in a lecture hall and the film was "Star Trek Bloopers." Hilarious. In any event, like a lot of people, I felt that "The Next Generation" (especially after the first season to get the kinks out) was in the spirit of the original. That said, I love all the various series, and the movies. Humans being the best we can be never gets boring.
TNG needed a "Spock" character and Data was perfect. Filling the role while feeling like an original, unique character. Also, again, after the first season, Patrick Stewart anchored the production with serious acting chops. His presence sold the show as serious and authentic.
@2:14 Mess???? That was a genius way to make tos klingons explainable
Sure as hell better than Gene Rodenberry's original explanation of blaming the low resolution of 1960s cameras for not showing the ridges that were "obviously" there. It also pays off the speculation by Bashir and O'Brien in the DS9 episode "Trials and Tribble-ations", in which they asked whether it was due to a virus or genetic manipulation.
@@lovehawks2814 "We do not discuss it with outsiders." - Worf
The most important, difficult, interesting episode. I'm so glad there are others who like it. Do you think having traditional English acting helped.a bit of Shakespeare is here I think
Oh, "four-breasted"! I thought you had said "full-breasted."
Well four WOULD BE pretty full!
Honestly, the four breasted thing wouldn't have been as bad. I had heard it was three, but Gene was convinced due to issues with fitting the prosthetic, presumably after the roles were swapped. Had it been four, they could have put the second two beneath the first and not have things be so... Crowded.
Great video
Armin Shimerman also played the Ferengi Daimon in "Peak Performance" who attacks the Enterprise while they're doing simulated wargames against a clunky old ship captained by Riker. It's really quite a good episode to end season 2 on. "Shades of Grey" never happened, it's a deepfake.
I love that guy, he played in the TV series Buffy the Vampire Slayer as well.
Wasn’t he also in Seinfeld as Stan the Caddy?
@@asmith7876 yeah, and a real creep of a villain in Timeless
@@jennifersman7990 And he played a Nox in Stargate SG-1.
Great actors Great video I enjoyed it 👍😀
I can barely make it past the first 5 seconds as I'm laughing my ass off from Worf falling on his ass after running into that door! :D :D :D :D
That's interesting about Worf's forehead. Did anyone ever explain why he didn't have ears?
Data is based on Isaac Asimov's R. Daneel Olivaw.
Despite the fact that Marina Sirtis is of Greek descent, she did play a Latino role in the movie "Death Wish 3"
I was really annoyed when they killed off Tasha Yar. I quite liked the character and I would have really liked to have seen Data have more of a personal life.
Although Worf was the obvious replacement as the ships security officer, I think a Klingon security officer had too much of a predictable outcome.
I want Warf as ships councillor 🤣🤣
My favorite series.
Gene Roddenberry originally intended Deanna Troi to be a four breasted Hermaphrodite but one of the shows writers convinced him to change the character.
Sure raises a lot of questions about her relationship with Riker.
He was obssed with shit like that. Like he wanted to get into how the ferengi banged and their codpieces as well lmao
Oh my, now I need to see a four breasted hermaphrodite.
That somehow reminded me of how Londo Mollari used to cheat at cards.
@@Krzysztof_Lis that's how he got it crushed once
TrekCulture is the best
Nowadays you can probably actually make those doors and open on command and affordably
They could’ve then too. They already had the automatic doors in grocery stores in
1987.
@@ryanatorryanson9535 They were just cheap. That's all
I dunno why but I feel there’s more charm in people pulling the strings and making a “woosh” sound in the background
also ran over Denise Crosby at the first convention I went to, come from the entrance hall into the convention main room was a blind corner and we rounded the corners from the opposite directions, but luckily managed to stop in time, also got to share an escalator ride with Peter Mayhew so that was cool
I believe the only time Patrick Stewart wore a wig on the show was in a flashback scene where he walks to up to Beverly Crusher and tells her that her husband Jack died on a mission.
And what a terrible wig it was, but rather thats the only time he wore a wig as Picard, stewart plays random holodeck characters here and there, particularly when data does Shakespeare. He is wearing wigs and fake noses and such but its him.
Yes, Cadet Picard (from Tapestry) was played by another actor... and then stupidly replaced by shaved bald Tom Hardy (in a photo) for Nemesis.
@@joermnyc none of which has to do with Patrick Stewart wearing a wig.
@@joermnyc Tom Hardy before all the free weights.
Some people are so shallow. Don't people realize that all these men and women spend hours every morning in a makeup chair? And in the gym? They are so one trick pony for the most part.
This is the first video ever I had to slow down the speed 😄 but really cool thx