Interesting point discovered after the video - Zorro IV is "double speed" Zorro II. The address for the 4 clock ports do fit in ZII area really - so that makes sense. Just not sure where the IV came from, it's also referred to as ZII+. It did also cross my mind you could probably hack the Amiga Kit software to change "Battery" to say "12v" - and using some resistors to form a potential divider (or something better than a PD perhaps) - you could wire up a voltage that's 3v (but represents the 12v level) up to the battery contacts and be able to approximately show the 12v level as a %. Effectively what you need to do is have a 3v level that represents 12v, as 12v lowers, it gets nearer to 0v as that 3v level drops. That would work. I will look at doing that before it goes into my cased 2000. It's a nice way to use that sensor, since I wont be using the battery and associated RTC in that setup.
One trick I do to keep pins straight and level in the plastic strip is that I have a mating connector attached while soldering. Pins have a minute thermal mass and they start deforming the surrounding plastic almost instantly when a hot solder blob touches it. The mating connector helps to keep the pin in place, and probably also dissipates some of the heat. Works with IDCs, as well as pretty much any other type of connector from DINs to D-subs.
Cat took it made me lol :-) It is nice how you explain things in detail. Those wire and pin maps are really nice extra. Especially when you explained that turning around will reverse pins 19 and 39.
To get the clock to display at the top of screen, right click on the clock icon, normally found in Utilities in Workbench. Choose icons information/icon. Change tool types to LEFT=900, TOP=12. Depends on the screen mode you are using of course. Clock will need to be in WBStartup to display at boot up🙂. There are other tool types that can be changed like digital, analog, size etc.
If memory serves the 2 wires go to a socket (a socket which is designed for one of the 1200 ROM sockets). They are just 2 address lines, and I believe I just moved those wires to the relavant address lines on a socket which I put under the kickstart ROM.
It may be a good idea to keep the the furry ESD generators out of the workspace so they do not wind up taking off with your project parts, inhaling solder smoke, getting burned by the hot soldering iron or de-soldering iron, getting pointy components stuck in there paws or getting harmed in any other way. Or zapping your expensive systems with ESD. Would also keep the fur off your collection as well. Although they do make a video have more views so there is that as well.
Yes, I am very careful regards soldering irons / hot air and the cats. They get ejected from the area before I use those tools. ESD is a big problem though - the number of times I've seen them approach something with their sniffy ESD noses lol.
I wish they'd make available headers with rectangular profile legs (not round or square), more like chip legs for these kinds of projects. BTW love a good Amiga build-project, especially one done by the master. :)
I use the long tail Arduino type headers, the type with the thinner rectangular pins. Slip them through from the top of PCB using a socket below as a jig. Top solder and trim the unneeded part the pins/female socket off. They are the same size as IC pins, don't destroy sockets and are cheap...
Do you have a link to this item? I can find the RTC for the 500, but I am interested in this as I have an accelerator already so I do not need a memory expansion that most RTC's plug into.
Ah wow - nice spot!!!!! I dont think I've ever had that Gary out of there - I will check that tomorrow! It looks like its not even connected?!?! I need to work out what that pin does! I think its a ground maybe!
I hate kits that don't give any or realy crap instructions. I built a digital clock awhile ago, it has one function button, I still can't set the time. I got the schematics and it all checks out, but the instructions are all in Chinese.
Dont really understand the interest in clockports these days. There are so few clockport devices. Network cards like subway were a good use of them but they are nolonger made. Also not being keyed they were easy to reverse and kill your HW
They are dirt cheap and easy to fit, and in my case all I wanted was the temperature sensors and 5v monitor in my 2000. I do have that soundcard to fit somewhere now, but not sure if I want to fit that in the 4000 rather than the 2000. I do agree there's no enough clock port devices these days, but that doesn't mean there won't be more.
Interesting point discovered after the video - Zorro IV is "double speed" Zorro II. The address for the 4 clock ports do fit in ZII area really - so that makes sense. Just not sure where the IV came from, it's also referred to as ZII+.
It did also cross my mind you could probably hack the Amiga Kit software to change "Battery" to say "12v" - and using some resistors to form a potential divider (or something better than a PD perhaps) - you could wire up a voltage that's 3v (but represents the 12v level) up to the battery contacts and be able to approximately show the 12v level as a %. Effectively what you need to do is have a 3v level that represents 12v, as 12v lowers, it gets nearer to 0v as that 3v level drops. That would work. I will look at doing that before it goes into my cased 2000. It's a nice way to use that sensor, since I wont be using the battery and associated RTC in that setup.
One trick I do to keep pins straight and level in the plastic strip is that I have a mating connector attached while soldering. Pins have a minute thermal mass and they start deforming the surrounding plastic almost instantly when a hot solder blob touches it. The mating connector helps to keep the pin in place, and probably also dissipates some of the heat. Works with IDCs, as well as pretty much any other type of connector from DINs to D-subs.
Cat took it made me lol :-) It is nice how you explain things in detail. Those wire and pin maps are really nice extra. Especially when you explained that turning around will reverse pins 19 and 39.
To get the clock to display at the top of screen, right click on the clock icon, normally found in Utilities in Workbench. Choose icons information/icon. Change tool types to LEFT=900, TOP=12. Depends on the screen mode you are using of course. Clock will need to be in WBStartup to display at boot up🙂. There are other tool types that can be changed like digital, analog, size etc.
Very nice!
Where did you get the additional signals to run 4 port expander? (34:59)
Are they available on A500 as well?
If memory serves the 2 wires go to a socket (a socket which is designed for one of the 1200 ROM sockets). They are just 2 address lines, and I believe I just moved those wires to the relavant address lines on a socket which I put under the kickstart ROM.
So yes, by connecting the 2 address lines to the relavent pins on the kickstart socket, it will work on a 500 or 2000.
Good to know, thanks!
I was wondering how to add more than one clockport device to a 500 and ran into your video just by accident.
Subscribed now.
DateVar will give you time and date in the menu bar
I'm surprised they haven't started using something like the HARWIN, H31 Discrete Sockets
It may be a good idea to keep the the furry ESD generators out of the workspace so they do not wind up taking off with your project parts, inhaling solder smoke, getting burned by the hot soldering iron or de-soldering iron, getting pointy components stuck in there paws or getting harmed in any other way. Or zapping your expensive systems with ESD. Would also keep the fur off your collection as well. Although they do make a video have more views so there is that as well.
Yes, I am very careful regards soldering irons / hot air and the cats. They get ejected from the area before I use those tools. ESD is a big problem though - the number of times I've seen them approach something with their sniffy ESD noses lol.
Have you tried this with a TF536 in a 2000 ? would be nice to have an SPI MasterBus CP Controller to play with :)
Honestly - I don't think I got it working alongside the TF536 - I will re-test when I get time!
Its like when I loose my keys, first place I check is my youngest pups crate, and 9/10 thats where they are :D
Haha =D
I wish they'd make available headers with rectangular profile legs (not round or square), more like chip legs for these kinds of projects.
BTW love a good Amiga build-project, especially one done by the master. :)
Thanks lol
I use the long tail Arduino type headers, the type with the thinner rectangular pins. Slip them through from the top of PCB using a socket below as a jig. Top solder and trim the unneeded part the pins/female socket off. They are the same size as IC pins, don't destroy sockets and are cheap...
Do you have a link to this item? I can find the RTC for the 500, but I am interested in this as I have an accelerator already so I do not need a memory expansion that most RTC's plug into.
I just found it on eBay - but the seller sold out atm I think.
@@GadgetUK164 Appreciate the info. I'll add it to my list of things to search for on the site.
where is the kit from
Just found it on eBay!
Pin 24 on your A2000's Gary seems to be bent out in an unhealthy way?!
Ah wow - nice spot!!!!! I dont think I've ever had that Gary out of there - I will check that tomorrow! It looks like its not even connected?!?! I need to work out what that pin does! I think its a ground maybe!
I hate kits that don't give any or realy crap instructions. I built a digital clock awhile ago, it has one function button, I still can't set the time. I got the schematics and it all checks out, but the instructions are all in Chinese.
Dont really understand the interest in clockports these days. There are so few clockport devices. Network cards like subway were a good use of them but they are nolonger made. Also not being keyed they were easy to reverse and kill your HW
They are dirt cheap and easy to fit, and in my case all I wanted was the temperature sensors and 5v monitor in my 2000. I do have that soundcard to fit somewhere now, but not sure if I want to fit that in the 4000 rather than the 2000. I do agree there's no enough clock port devices these days, but that doesn't mean there won't be more.
I2C interface perhaps? such as Akuhei?
@@GadgetUK164 Would you like to try I2C adapter? Please contact me with shipping details.