I used my A1200 with an 030@50 until 98 or 99. The PSU died and if I had known then what I know now I would never have abandoned the machine for a number of years. Luckily I still have the machine and it got a new PSU, a recap and some sweet CF goodness on the IDE. Still going strong :)
There's a little hope in the back of my head that thinks that if Commodore UK had actually managed to buy Commodore that David Pleasance might have had his eyes on buting up Acorn too (especially if ARM came with the Acorn company) and that maybe just for little longer, we'd have had ARM-powered A5000s and A1800s.
@@GeoNeilUK Raspberry pi is fine. Really, they do 4K video at 30 fps and 1080p at 60 at less than 10 watts. Do you REALLY want to go back to using workbench? I'll help you setup Raspberry PI OS on a raspberry pi, or in a Virtual Box PC. The virtual box PC will be faster of course, but it will give you a good idea of what the OS is like and you don't have to buy any hardware or software. Amiga was an amazing computer back in the day, it was well ahead of its time, but I wouldn't want to go back to it. Still remember Fred Phish? Was it Fred Fish? Been 30 years.
@@jasonking1284 Saying "just use an emulator...." is like telling someone who wants to ride a motorcycle "just drive a car...." lol Truth is while I do own a fully kitted A1200 I don't have the space to leave it out, so I do use an emulator more often than not. But it's not the same, just like riding a motorcycle and driving a car. For me personally I find I'm more focused when using my actual Amiga, I spend longer getting a lot more done (I do some gaming, graphics, music and after an almost 30 year hiatus I'm starting to program again). I don't know if you ever owned or used an actual Amiga back in the day, and I know this is subjective but it doesn't feel the same as a Mac or PC, if your emulating you are still having to deal with the underlying OS at some level. Emulation is that thing that lulls you into the experience, then every so often yanks you out of it.
@@richardwicks4190 you dont really think people are using AmigaOS because they have no other options do you? Suggestions like "just use linux based OS no.34567645864" are redundant. Also, exactly how familiar are you with AmigaOS (for starters its called AmigaOS, Workbench is a desktop, so Im guessing not much)? Its way more capable that you seem to think. Very little it cant do, raw grunt permitting.
Good review on the 1200! I used mine until scoring an A4000/030 for 600UKP in the mid-90s! After a brief (10 year) break in the 2010s, I'm back to Amigas It's astounding that accelerators are still going to be produced after all this time, I'm glad and look forward to the day when these are available in more than review quantities...meanwhuile, my god I'm in love with the Vampires!
Congratulations! This is the best Warp 1260 review so far. When the Scandoubler/FlickerFixer module arrives (to forget the screen change), it will be the ultimate card to extending our beloved Amiga computer. Maybe a mass production will lower the price but hunting down a fully working (not fake) rev.6 060 card is a hard target.
Yep... in 1994 I opted for a 33 MHz FPU with 4MB fast ram and clock rather than a low-end '030 for my A1200. That was a much better buy, IMO. I still use it today.
@Poff Nada I do know, but the main processor is a 68k which has a super old instruction set while also having a much slower frequency, so the performance difference is probably even larger due to the instruction sets not smaller so the point still stands.
I wonder though if the ARM's IPC is any higher than the 060. It would still outrun the 060 even if its IPC was somewhat lower, but it would still be interesting. Its real power will come from a newer instruction set. The ESP 240 is certainly lower IPC so its doubtful one core on it would out perform the 060 at 105mhz. In fact i bet it would take both cores to do it. They are not very high ipc at all, but are very specialized in their application.
In the previous comment thread, one commenter compares Mhz of Intel for five years in the 90s to the 68k's in Amiga.🙄 No two chips can be compared like that. Media and ads in the 90s hyped up clock rates, to encourage sales, to make some like RNL commenter upgrade and/or buy more expensive PCs. It worked so well, it gave Apple a reason to switch from PowerPC to Intel. The comparison by clock speed doesn't mean much in real world performance. People fell for it though.🙄🤷
Ouch! on the price though and 060 included. I was one of the first people to have an Apollo 060 cards running at 100mhz with 64mb of ram years ago. The Amiga at that speed was an amazing experience. I can't help thinking an emulated 060 would have been a better choice for this expansion. Watching this makes me want to buy an Amiga again.
In 1993, I did all my third year university coursework on an A1200 that my brother leant me. I can remember typing away, staring at the CUB monitor for hour after hour, surrounded by books and coffee cups in the dining room of my digs. I became an expert at Pinball Dreams and learned about backing up files the hard way when I lost an entire essay - 50 hours' work - when a floppy disk failed to save because it was full and crashed the computer - and I hadn't saved the file to the hard drive! I nearly put the monitor through the kitchen window. I loved that computer very much. Some scumbag stole it from the boot of my brother's Peugeot 205 in London in 1995 taking with it my essays, my thesis and all those memories. Much missed.
Same for me, i had a Phase 5 Blizzard PPC 603e Plus with a 68040 CPU and a PPC 240MHz CPU, and a Elbox Mediator PCI 1200 with a Voodoo5, but i was stupid enough to sell my Phase 5 Blizzard PPC 603e Plus, really wish i had never done that :-(
Yeah I owned A500 while at school, finally got A1200 in 1995, upgraded it a load. Enjoyed it. Fidonet! Switched to PC 1998, GTA1! Quake2! There isn't the love for Windows vs the likes of Amiga or Linux. I get tingles when I hear Amiga game soundtracks like Pinball Fantasies haha.
Sadly I agree. This so call internal damage to a company similarly, Sega US and Sega Japan lack of working together resulted in bringing down that platform as well.
I agree. The biggest flaw in Amiga evolution was the absence of Jay Miner and his team. The AAA chipset had to be an evolutionary leap and affordable to ensure success. Similarly, Atari came out with the Falcon that had potential, but the relatively high price hampered sales among fans.
Motorola didn't help Amiga's cause i.e. 50 Mhz 68060 in 1994 while Pentium reached 100 Mhz in 1994. Intel's Pentium was important for the gaming PC platform to compete against mid-90s RISC based game consoles. 1993 = Pentium at 66 Mhz 1994 = Pentium at 100 Mhz 1995 = Pentium at 133 Mhz and Pentium Pro at 200Mhz 1996 = Pentium at 200 Mhz 1997 = Pentium II at 300 Mhz 1998 = Pentium II at 450 Mhz. The infamous Celeron 300A which overclocked to 450 Mhz also appeared. I jumped ship to PC in 1996 for Pentium 150Mhz (overclocked to166 Mhz) and S3 Trio 64 PCI when the Amiga has an expensive 68060 at 50Mhz and expensive Cybergraphics 64 (S3 Trio 64). I traded my Amiga 3000 (030/882 at 25Mhz) for the Pentium based PC. I recently won A1200 (labeled as broken for parts when it's actually working) eBay bid..
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@Arlo Ayaan thanks so much for your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process now. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
There's a middle ground between real silicone and emulation: simulation. Since my Amiga 1200 died I sill use the case and keyboard, but the brains is now outsourced to a fpga mist. Works like a charm, is faster than the 1200 ever was, is compatible down to the included midi files and joystick ports, has the same low latency due to simulation, and is relatively affordable. And it displays every game trough the vga port, so you can use a nice fast monitor or TFT..
I like to think of the Warp boards (similar to most new Amiga hardware) as offering the best of both worlds; the '060 for the OS, and the new hardware augmenting the custom chips, rather than completely removing them. They're always still available if needed.
I never had an Amiga growing up here in the states, and did love DOS based Windows games as a kid, but am fascinated especially with some of the last Amiga and other micro games. I love the 16 bit and "32 bit" generation of games in the 90s and early to mid 2000s. Amiga def does great there. Hell, I think some of the games I played as a kid were Amiga ports to DOS or console! :)
Very interesting, thanks! After an A500 then an A1200 in the 90s (before jumping ship to PC in '97) I really want to love my Amiga again. I invested so much time and money in it back then and have some great memories. I found a 1994 receipt from Gordon Harwood for my 2MB Viper 030 & FPU and it came to over £700 in today's money... (and that's not including the 8MB stick it has). After digging out the A1200 and recapping it a couple of years ago I pulled it off the shelf this week. Imaged the HDD for safekeeping, bought a CF and spent a few nights making my ideal Workbench in WinUAE. Ordered a scan-doubler too, with the hope of using the machine occasionally with a monitor. However, I have a feeling I'll play a few fave games and a few utilities, copy some floppies for the hell of it, smile to myself then put it away again.
Great video as always Dan. Still amazes me the new kit being made. Makes me lol when I see an Amiga running a higher resolution than most of my PCs haha. Thanks for taking the time to share. Love your work.
I regret giving my A1200 to a charity shop a few years back, it had an expansion board and HDD etc but had been stored in an attic for 20 years so needed a restoration, I just didnt have the time/money to bring it back to life. Funnily enough i do now and miss it, so many awesome memories. Hopefully it ended up in a good home
It would be interesting to see how it works with popular software like 3d design tools , deluxe paint , Amiga Vision and so on. I also used my Amiga 500 as my main computer till 1999. Then when the pentium 2 came out I found it was time switch and of course was blown away by game titles like Unreal Tournament and Hidden & Dangerous. But I still have my Amiga 500 😀
Epic! I was using the A1200 my brother and I bought in 1992 as my main machine until the late 90s, and I'm keeping it going to this day. We bought an '030 accelerator with FPU but didn't realise how important Fast RAM was for improved CPU performance. Later in the 90s we upgraded to a Blizzard 68060 card + SCSI. I remember the A1200 expansion cards needing an alarming amount of force to install. At 9:22 the board looks a little slanted - maybe that's what allowed the fan to fit!
I used to go to bed every Xmas and prey and wish for an amiga. I never got one. But loved looking at them in the local electronics shops. They were very very expensive. There is a retro shops by me. Specialising in old school computers and consoles.
That's the big question. It's a bit of a silent treatment atm. 'Handing' out these cards to Amiga influencers (so you might be lucky if you mail them).
All this based on a platform created in 1985. What PC can do this, to claim such foresight and ability? 35 years old and still stomping modern hardware! Amazing
You can't just buy one pre-installed as you probably know, but if you are very patient over the next months and years, complete preowned systems will likely occasionally turn up on eBay, and on the Amiga sales website Amibay. As for cost it will expensive, although a complete system will probably still be a bit cheaper than a stock used A3000, or A4000 big box Amiga. The prices of used Amiga hardware fluctuates, although at current rates for all the various bits of hardware , and if you opt for a Rev 6 060 it will probably cost approximately £1200, or £950 if you go for a Rev 4 060 without FPU. If you can't build it yourself, then search the services section on Amibay where you can find a technician to do that.
This certainly is a marvelous card. I am really struggling on whether to get it for my A500 or A1200. I would hate to lose my Indivision MKII, and my Blizzard 040 card is quite fast... And the A500 version would really complete my Checkmate 1500 build and make it worthwhile... Decisions, decisions, decisions....
Wow 😮 AmAZinG 😉 review Dan. Incredible card! Can’t wait to get my hands on one for all my systems. Amiga 500/1200 and one to go in my 3000 (hoping it will fit in the desktop version). My Amiga 4000 is towerised and already has a cyberstorm 060/ppc overclocked so I’ll leave it there .... exciting times ahead for the Amiga Community in the world. Especially 2020 is the year:) bring it on I say!
You got that right! Don't get me started on what I think of Windows 10--it ain't pretty; have to use it every day at work. Enough to gag a maggot. Serious privacy issues, a bleached Fisher-Price toy GUI, zero user control over M$ updates that breaks other code and content rammed down your throat to name a few...
The name on this beautyfull maschine is the most perfect name for any gear in history. Amiga says it all. Love from the first sight. On my first trip to USA for my job I baught a thick computer paper to some thing to read - many years ago. On the front page was a picture of the coming new revolutionery extremely handsome AMUGA 1000! SO MANY COLORS THAT THE MOST ADVANCED TV COULDNT EVEN SHOW A PUCTURE OF THEM SELF ON THEIR SCREEN IN THE EXACTLY RIGHT RED COLOR WHEN THEY SHOW THE SHAME THEY FELT. And since then my AMIGAS has been my most loved Amigos! And my accellerated Amiga 1200 in a tower with a couple of original screens and an old VGA monitor still works. When I get totally mad on my OC and whant to just kill it I start my ole 1200 and just smile at the welcomin screen. A REAL friend that NEVER lets you down.
Hi, I remember having amiga tech demo in which there was this one scene - black background and lines of text, whole screen of it saying 'Amiga rules', anyone know what was the name of that demo?
I have Amiga1200 but sadly only 8Mb fast Ram with coprocessor 68882, I have always dreamed about 040/060 processor, so nice to see this video ;) But for me is good enough, because we play with my 3 sons and my wife sometimes on weekends in Dynablaster for 5 players :) This computer give us so much fun, despite his age :) Maybe in far future I will get such card
Great expansion, and great video Dan! However given the price and the fact we have to source our own CPU, would the Vampire 1200 not be a better bet? That's a 68080, and it's over 100 Euro cheaper when taking into account the 68060 chip cost too.
Yeah... I kind hope they might make a 040 or 030 version of this. They cannot even find CPUs themselves and consider it too high a risk for them to try to get more, and they know about how to get them. The problem seems to be that a lot of the ones you can find online are fake. So it seems great, but the fact that it requires an 060 CPU seems to make it pretty much useless for most Amiga users.
Dan is there a way to emulate the Amiga 1200 escom on winuae? using the 39 seconds boot time rom chip emulation? i cant find it anywhere to download though can u help me thanks.
Thankfully I already have a 060 in my 4000. The only reason I see to upgrade to the eventual 4000 version of this is the USB, that's something I miss having on my 4000.
Still got my Blizzard 1260 attached to my A1200, that 060 totally transformed the machine, the performance improvements just blew me away & games such as Allen breed 3d & B17 flying fortress were so much more fun to play.
19:01 Alien Breed 2 3D. It doesn't look like you know how to change the resolution, because you show it in default. Press Enter on Numpad for fullscreen or + and - to adjust the rendered window. How fast does it run in fullscreen?
Ah thanks, I was looking in the menus, hitting escape etc. and couldn't see a way. I tried to get the RTG version working for a couple of days, but the colours were all crazy and messed up so gave up on that.
@@danwood_uk RTG was a bit trickier. You need the usuals (RTGmaster, P96/CV643D and AHI), the AB3D2 RTG patch from aminet and patience, because the only thing I really remember was me tinkering for hours until I was happy with :) And it was a long time ago, about 2004, when I still had real hardware up and running. So maybe (hopefully) everything software-wise is more reliable nowadays.
What is the chipmem/motherboard access speed? The Blizzard PPC is rather slow to access the motherboard compared to Apollo 1260 or ACA. Part of the appeal here is getting a similar card to the Blizzard but with lower latency.
looks bloody amazing. Its a shame its a similar story to the commodore 128 where you have to use seperate monitors (for now) but wow ive never seen such impressiveness on just a 1200. Its pretty incredible that companies or people are making such devices for such computers that were discontinued many years ago.
Still have my A1200 with its blizzard a1220 4mb(just bought the 4mb upgrade for it). Back in the day I also had a 420mb 3.5in hdd inside. Now I've fitted a 8gb cf card.
I'm guessing installing the fan first and then the accelerator would have made that job much easier and quicker as you would be able to see where to connect it. Maybe.
I have a question if someone can help me. I have an A500+ that is PAL but I live in the USA and want NTSC. the question is can I just simply replace the PAL Fat Agnus chip with a NTSC Fat Agnus or is there other chips that need replaced as well?
Cheers Dan, great vid. I've got the Vampire 1200 and it seems so much more finicky compared to the Warp - plus the Warp "feels" like an accelerator instead of a replacement for the chipset because of the real 060.
Does anyone know of an Amiga-like OS that has an HTML5 browser and is pretty close to the speed of current computers and isn't super expensive? That's what I want. I'll stick to my stock A500 for the huge library of awesome Amiga games. Thanks
I had an external 4x CD-player to my a 1200 (PCM-slot on the left side). I think I've thrown it away along with the powersupply, darn. I also had an expansion card in the trap door (Microbotics 1230 XA 50 MHz) with an 882 Fpu (I think) and an mmu and 16 MB RAM.
Would love to buy this card but with the release of the Nvidia 3070/80/90 cards and an i9 processor, I am curious if I would get the same performance as this 060 accelerator through my PC using an emulator?
I wonder if it would be possible to make an Amiga accelerator out of a Raspberry Pi in the same way that they managed to make an accelerator for the BBC Micro through its Tube port? I wonder how many of those high-end 060 and 060+RTG emualtors were produced on UAE rather than a real souped-up Amiga?
accelerator cards have always been interesting but they seem to be at a point the amgia is basically a backplane/pass-through and your just running a SBC over it. much like taking a 486 computer getting a pentium PCI SBC (single board computer) to run over it's PCI bus, is it still really a 486 system? no it's just a hodgepodge setup to provide power to the SBC and some ports/connections.
I used my A1200 with an 030@50 until 98 or 99. The PSU died and if I had known then what I know now I would never have abandoned the machine for a number of years. Luckily I still have the machine and it got a new PSU, a recap and some sweet CF goodness on the IDE. Still going strong :)
Great to see Acorn's ARM technology giving old Commodores a new lease of life.
There's a little hope in the back of my head that thinks that if Commodore UK had actually managed to buy Commodore that David Pleasance might have had his eyes on buting up Acorn too (especially if ARM came with the Acorn company) and that maybe just for little longer, we'd have had ARM-powered A5000s and A1800s.
@@GeoNeilUK Raspberry pi is fine. Really, they do 4K video at 30 fps and 1080p at 60 at less than 10 watts.
Do you REALLY want to go back to using workbench? I'll help you setup Raspberry PI OS on a raspberry pi, or in a Virtual Box PC. The virtual box PC will be faster of course, but it will give you a good idea of what the OS is like and you don't have to buy any hardware or software.
Amiga was an amazing computer back in the day, it was well ahead of its time, but I wouldn't want to go back to it. Still remember Fred Phish? Was it Fred Fish? Been 30 years.
@@richardwicks4190 Achh.. just use an emulator....
@@jasonking1284 Saying "just use an emulator...." is like telling someone who wants to ride a motorcycle "just drive a car...." lol
Truth is while I do own a fully kitted A1200 I don't have the space to leave it out, so I do use an emulator more often than not. But it's not the same, just like riding a motorcycle and driving a car. For me personally I find I'm more focused when using my actual Amiga, I spend longer getting a lot more done (I do some gaming, graphics, music and after an almost 30 year hiatus I'm starting to program again). I don't know if you ever owned or used an actual Amiga back in the day, and I know this is subjective but it doesn't feel the same as a Mac or PC, if your emulating you are still having to deal with the underlying OS at some level. Emulation is that thing that lulls you into the experience, then every so often yanks you out of it.
@@richardwicks4190 you dont really think people are using AmigaOS because they have no other options do you?
Suggestions like "just use linux based OS no.34567645864" are redundant.
Also, exactly how familiar are you with AmigaOS (for starters its called AmigaOS, Workbench is a desktop, so Im guessing not much)?
Its way more capable that you seem to think. Very little it cant do, raw grunt permitting.
Good review on the 1200! I used mine until scoring an A4000/030 for 600UKP in the mid-90s! After a brief (10 year) break in the 2010s, I'm back to Amigas It's astounding that accelerators are still going to be produced after all this time, I'm glad and look forward to the day when these are available in more than review quantities...meanwhuile, my god I'm in love with the Vampires!
Congratulations! This is the best Warp 1260 review so far. When the Scandoubler/FlickerFixer module arrives (to forget the screen change), it will be the ultimate card to extending our beloved Amiga computer. Maybe a mass production will lower the price but hunting down a fully working (not fake) rev.6 060 card is a hard target.
I had one in Canada with a Floating point accelerator. I did a lot of 3D animation back then with Real 3D and Imagine 2.0
Yep... in 1994 I opted for a 33 MHz FPU with 4MB fast ram and clock rather than a low-end '030 for my A1200. That was a much better buy, IMO. I still use it today.
Thanks for taking the time to put this together, Dan. This looks absolutely amazing.
Gotta love that the coprocessor is 4+ times faster than the main processor haha. In fact the WiFi chip on there is probably faster than the 68k.
Ben Baron Yes, the WiFi chip is an ESP32 which runs at 240MHz on two cores simulteanously :-)
@Poff Nada I do know, but the main processor is a 68k which has a super old instruction set while also having a much slower frequency, so the performance difference is probably even larger due to the instruction sets not smaller so the point still stands.
@Poff Nada Yeah...you're completely missing the point of my original comment lol 🤦
I wonder though if the ARM's IPC is any higher than the 060. It would still outrun the 060 even if its IPC was somewhat lower, but it would still be interesting. Its real power will come from a newer instruction set. The ESP 240 is certainly lower IPC so its doubtful one core on it would out perform the 060 at 105mhz. In fact i bet it would take both cores to do it. They are not very high ipc at all, but are very specialized in their application.
In the previous comment thread, one commenter compares Mhz of Intel for five years in the 90s to the 68k's in Amiga.🙄 No two chips can be compared like that. Media and ads in the 90s hyped up clock rates, to encourage sales, to make some like RNL commenter upgrade and/or buy more expensive PCs. It worked so well, it gave Apple a reason to switch from PowerPC to Intel. The comparison by clock speed doesn't mean much in real world performance. People fell for it though.🙄🤷
Ouch! on the price though and 060 included. I was one of the first people to have an Apollo 060 cards running at 100mhz with 64mb of ram years ago. The Amiga at that speed was an amazing experience. I can't help thinking an emulated 060 would have been a better choice for this expansion. Watching this makes me want to buy an Amiga again.
Ha ha, did not expect to see something I worked on in this video 16:10, thanks for mentioning it :D
In 1993, I did all my third year university coursework on an A1200 that my brother leant me. I can remember typing away, staring at the CUB monitor for hour after hour, surrounded by books and coffee cups in the dining room of my digs. I became an expert at Pinball Dreams and learned about backing up files the hard way when I lost an entire essay - 50 hours' work - when a floppy disk failed to save because it was full and crashed the computer - and I hadn't saved the file to the hard drive! I nearly put the monitor through the kitchen window.
I loved that computer very much. Some scumbag stole it from the boot of my brother's Peugeot 205 in London in 1995 taking with it my essays, my thesis and all those memories. Much missed.
Hey Dan! You're back! So good to see you uploading new stuff on the UA-cam! Cheers!
I used my 1200T as the main computer till the end of 2003...
Our family PC from like 1992-1999 was a ZX Spectrum 128K lmao.
Same for me, i had a Phase 5 Blizzard PPC 603e Plus with a 68040 CPU and a PPC 240MHz CPU, and a Elbox Mediator PCI 1200 with a Voodoo5, but i was stupid enough to sell my Phase 5 Blizzard PPC 603e Plus, really wish i had never done that :-(
My trusty A1200 was my only pc till the end of 2003 also. It isn't very well just now. Can't get it to boot at all😟
Amiga Wolf A heavily accelerated Amiga 1200 was perfectly decent for the late 90s/early 2000s.
The same! 1992-2003
Great that you've managed to get your hands on one of these Dan!
Dan, you need to create more videos! Met you at Kickstart 2! I can't wait for the videos you are currently working on.
All the best mate!
Commodores biggest enemy was the Commodore management.... so many wasted oppotunities. I switched in 1999.
Yeah I owned A500 while at school, finally got A1200 in 1995, upgraded it a load. Enjoyed it. Fidonet! Switched to PC 1998, GTA1! Quake2! There isn't the love for Windows vs the likes of Amiga or Linux. I get tingles when I hear Amiga game soundtracks like Pinball Fantasies haha.
Sadly I agree. This so call internal damage to a company similarly, Sega US and Sega Japan lack of working together resulted in bringing down that platform as well.
I agree. The biggest flaw in Amiga evolution was the absence of Jay Miner and his team. The AAA chipset had to be an evolutionary leap and affordable to ensure success. Similarly, Atari came out with the Falcon that had potential, but the relatively high price hampered sales among fans.
Motorola didn't help Amiga's cause i.e. 50 Mhz 68060 in 1994 while Pentium reached 100 Mhz in 1994.
Intel's Pentium was important for the gaming PC platform to compete against mid-90s RISC based game consoles.
1993 = Pentium at 66 Mhz
1994 = Pentium at 100 Mhz
1995 = Pentium at 133 Mhz and Pentium Pro at 200Mhz
1996 = Pentium at 200 Mhz
1997 = Pentium II at 300 Mhz
1998 = Pentium II at 450 Mhz. The infamous Celeron 300A which overclocked to 450 Mhz also appeared.
I jumped ship to PC in 1996 for Pentium 150Mhz (overclocked to166 Mhz) and S3 Trio 64 PCI when the Amiga has an expensive 68060 at 50Mhz and expensive Cybergraphics 64 (S3 Trio 64).
I traded my Amiga 3000 (030/882 at 25Mhz) for the Pentium based PC. I recently won A1200 (labeled as broken for parts when it's actually working) eBay bid..
@BigLBA1 According to Dave Haynie, AGA chipset was ready in Feb 1991. Commodore management has yet another delay.
This is easily the best video I've seen on the Warp accelerators, great work Dan!
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I was stupid forgot my password. I love any assistance you can offer me
@Ronin Alden Instablaster :)
@Arlo Ayaan thanks so much for your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process now.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Arlo Ayaan It did the trick and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thank you so much, you saved my account!
@Ronin Alden You are welcome =)
There's a middle ground between real silicone and emulation: simulation. Since my Amiga 1200 died I sill use the case and keyboard, but the brains is now outsourced to a fpga mist. Works like a charm, is faster than the 1200 ever was, is compatible down to the included midi files and joystick ports, has the same low latency due to simulation, and is relatively affordable. And it displays every game trough the vga port, so you can use a nice fast monitor or TFT..
I like to think of the Warp boards (similar to most new Amiga hardware) as offering the best of both worlds; the '060 for the OS, and the new hardware augmenting the custom chips, rather than completely removing them. They're always still available if needed.
Great video Dan! I'm looking forward to the A500 version 👍🕹️
Thanks dude. Keep an eye on MVG’s channel, he has one 😎
I never had an Amiga growing up here in the states, and did love DOS based Windows games as a kid, but am fascinated especially with some of the last Amiga and other micro games. I love the 16 bit and "32 bit" generation of games in the 90s and early to mid 2000s. Amiga def does great there. Hell, I think some of the games I played as a kid were Amiga ports to DOS or console! :)
Another great video Dan. Really nice to see this in action. It does look amazing.
Very interesting, thanks! After an A500 then an A1200 in the 90s (before jumping ship to PC in '97) I really want to love my Amiga again. I invested so much time and money in it back then and have some great memories. I found a 1994 receipt from Gordon Harwood for my 2MB Viper 030 & FPU and it came to over £700 in today's money... (and that's not including the 8MB stick it has). After digging out the A1200 and recapping it a couple of years ago I pulled it off the shelf this week. Imaged the HDD for safekeeping, bought a CF and spent a few nights making my ideal Workbench in WinUAE. Ordered a scan-doubler too, with the hope of using the machine occasionally with a monitor. However, I have a feeling I'll play a few fave games and a few utilities, copy some floppies for the hell of it, smile to myself then put it away again.
Always love seeing new bits of kit for the Amiga 👍
Great video as always Dan. Still amazes me the new kit being made. Makes me lol when I see an Amiga running a higher resolution than most of my PCs haha. Thanks for taking the time to share. Love your work.
I regret giving my A1200 to a charity shop a few years back, it had an expansion board and HDD etc but had been stored in an attic for 20 years so needed a restoration, I just didnt have the time/money to bring it back to life. Funnily enough i do now and miss it, so many awesome memories. Hopefully it ended up in a good home
Thanks for keeping the dream alive! 🙂
It would be interesting to see how it works with popular software like 3d design tools , deluxe paint , Amiga Vision and so on. I also used my Amiga 500 as my main computer till 1999. Then when the pentium 2 came out I found it was time switch and of course was blown away by game titles like Unreal Tournament and Hidden & Dangerous. But I still have my Amiga 500 😀
Have an 500, 600 & a 1200 & loved using them all, PenPal was my word processor choice. Now you’re tempting me to upgrade one of them 🤔
Epic! I was using the A1200 my brother and I bought in 1992 as my main machine until the late 90s, and I'm keeping it going to this day. We bought an '030 accelerator with FPU but didn't realise how important Fast RAM was for improved CPU performance. Later in the 90s we upgraded to a Blizzard 68060 card + SCSI. I remember the A1200 expansion cards needing an alarming amount of force to install. At 9:22 the board looks a little slanted - maybe that's what allowed the fan to fit!
I used to go to bed every Xmas and prey and wish for an amiga. I never got one. But loved looking at them in the local electronics shops. They were very very expensive. There is a retro shops by me. Specialising in old school computers and consoles.
Nice guide Dan! 👍🕹️
Does anyone know when this will actually be available to buy? No sign on their website yet...
That's the big question. It's a bit of a silent treatment atm. 'Handing' out these cards to Amiga influencers (so you might be lucky if you mail them).
My most beloved machine.
I still love a blast on my amiga.
We now have incredibly powerful machines.
But nothing will ever match the charm of an a1200
Interesting video, nice to see developments for the Amiga. Sadly finding a real 060 processor these days is nigh on impossible.
Heisener still has a large stock of NOS Freescale 68060s...as of may 2022 min order is 5 units at 750 a piece😳 so 3500 minimum
@@Bulletstop75 oh wow 😯. That’s outrageous money for that. Sadly won’t be happening for me anytime soon. Thanks for the info though!
This with a new case mechanical keyboard replacement and a scan doubler 😍 drooll.
All this based on a platform created in 1985. What PC can do this, to claim such foresight and ability? 35 years old and still stomping modern hardware! Amazing
Where can I buy an Amiga 1200 with this pre-installed? 😅
and how much would it cost?
You can't just buy one pre-installed as you probably know, but if you are very patient over the next months and years, complete preowned systems will likely occasionally turn up on eBay, and on the Amiga sales website Amibay.
As for cost it will expensive, although a complete system will probably still be a bit cheaper than a stock used A3000, or A4000 big box Amiga.
The prices of used Amiga hardware fluctuates, although at current rates for all the various bits of hardware , and if you opt for a Rev 6 060 it will probably cost approximately £1200, or £950 if you go for a Rev 4 060 without FPU.
If you can't build it yourself, then search the services section on Amibay where you can find a technician to do that.
This certainly is a marvelous card. I am really struggling on whether to get it for my A500 or A1200. I would hate to lose my Indivision MKII, and my Blizzard 040 card is quite fast...
And the A500 version would really complete my Checkmate 1500 build and make it worthwhile... Decisions, decisions, decisions....
Excellent work and video !
I've been waiting on this card to be available for over a year now. I can still wait a bit but I need it now :p
Awesome vid, that starstruck demo looked insane
I need this!
How much do these go for? Im tempted to get one for my newly recapped a1200.
Having the arm chip there kinda reminds me off my old ppc setup.
I went from a C64 directly to a 486 DX2 66 (in 1993 I believe). That was HUGE. I was always impressed by the Amigas though (compared to the C64)
I just have an A1200 with 8MB FASTRAM, 68882 FPU, 4GB CF HDD, and a Gotek floppy. This looks interesting.
Wow 😮 AmAZinG 😉 review Dan. Incredible card! Can’t wait to get my hands on one for all my systems. Amiga 500/1200 and one to go in my 3000 (hoping it will fit in the desktop version). My Amiga 4000 is towerised and already has a cyberstorm 060/ppc overclocked so I’ll leave it there .... exciting times ahead for the Amiga Community in the world. Especially 2020 is the year:) bring it on I say!
Any good places to get a a1200 in the u.s.?
eBay or AmiBay are your two best bets...
Had an accelerated A1200 back in the 90's, upgrading an Amiga is definitely a nostalgic "rabbit hole." ;)
That Amiga Workbench desktop looks so much better than boring ol' windows 10
It’s for running software applications it doesn’t have to be pretty!
You got that right! Don't get me started on what I think of Windows 10--it ain't pretty; have to use it every day at work. Enough to gag a maggot. Serious privacy issues, a bleached Fisher-Price toy GUI, zero user control over M$ updates that breaks other code and content rammed down your throat to name a few...
question: how many of the 68060 cpu's are out there, when new they where very high end, even on mac's so where are they coming from?
The a1200 is an amazing piece of art. It never ceases to amaze me.
The name on this beautyfull maschine is the most perfect name for any gear in history. Amiga says it all. Love from the first sight. On my first trip to USA for my job I baught a thick computer paper to some thing to read - many years ago. On the front page was a picture of the coming new revolutionery extremely handsome AMUGA 1000! SO MANY COLORS THAT THE MOST ADVANCED TV COULDNT EVEN SHOW A PUCTURE OF THEM SELF ON THEIR SCREEN IN THE EXACTLY RIGHT RED COLOR WHEN THEY SHOW THE SHAME THEY FELT. And since then my AMIGAS has been my most loved Amigos! And my accellerated Amiga 1200 in a tower with a couple of original screens and an old VGA monitor still works.
When I get totally mad on my OC and whant to just kill it I start my ole 1200 and just smile at the welcomin screen. A REAL friend that NEVER lets you down.
Hi would love one of these warp cards but can not find any any where
I could not source any as well but CS Lab is still supplying firmware update..
Excellent review.
Wow. I think this build deserves a tower case now. Fantastic.
Hi, I remember having amiga tech demo in which there was this one scene - black background and lines of text, whole screen of it saying 'Amiga rules', anyone know what was the name of that demo?
Haha, I tried running Gloom on my A500+. Ahh those days were sad, I think I still have depression from that. Awesome.
Extreme is my homemade tower Amiga1200 060 50mhz, PowerPC300mhz , BVision 3D, Ram 128 Mb and Amiga3. 9 / AmigaOS4. 😄✌️
Thanks for the Review, Great Upgrade!
FR
Awesome video Dan!
Since you have an MMU - Perhaps do a video on Amiga UNIX sometime on this machine?
I always wondered when these accelerators would add ARM Processors as well..
I have Amiga1200 but sadly only 8Mb fast Ram with coprocessor 68882, I have always dreamed about 040/060 processor, so nice to see this video ;) But for me is good enough, because we play with my 3 sons and my wife sometimes on weekends in Dynablaster for 5 players :) This computer give us so much fun, despite his age :) Maybe in far future I will get such card
A new Dan Wood video = obligatory!
just wondering about the Amiga 1200 magic pack from escom (what rom it had) what rom revision and version etc)????? thanks.
I'd love to see how Genetic Species runs on that.
I think I'll be purchasing one of these cards. Looks so good.
It already runs great on a 030@50mhz
So I reckon this thing is like 100 times faster than my 68000 A600. Which means I can complete my pixel art creations 100 times quicker. Yay :)
Only if you can find one. Good luck! :-/
Terrible Fire cards are significantly cheaper, and work with the a600, though are not anywhere near as fast. But they would help out tremendously.
It’s better if you show the ‘fiddly bits’ of getting the card installed - becomes useful if we ever install ourselves. Thanks for the video.
Great expansion, and great video Dan! However given the price and the fact we have to source our own CPU, would the Vampire 1200 not be a better bet? That's a 68080, and it's over 100 Euro cheaper when taking into account the 68060 chip cost too.
Yeah... I kind hope they might make a 040 or 030 version of this. They cannot even find CPUs themselves and consider it too high a risk for them to try to get more, and they know about how to get them. The problem seems to be that a lot of the ones you can find online are fake.
So it seems great, but the fact that it requires an 060 CPU seems to make it pretty much useless for most Amiga users.
Awesome, would love to hear about the A500 version!
ua-cam.com/video/JXmcMHiavQY/v-deo.html
My goodness, you used footage from the Amiga Format guide to A1200 Hdds! I had that tape!
The whole thing is on UA-cam. Link in description
Great video! Tanx so much.
Dan is there a way to emulate the Amiga 1200 escom on winuae? using the 39 seconds boot time rom chip emulation? i cant find it anywhere to download though can u help me thanks.
Thankfully I already have a 060 in my 4000. The only reason I see to upgrade to the eventual 4000 version of this is the USB, that's something I miss having on my 4000.
The Amiga500 was my amiga and the one I'm still nostalgic for
Still got my Blizzard 1260 attached to my A1200, that 060 totally transformed the machine, the performance improvements just blew me away & games such as Allen breed 3d & B17 flying fortress were so much more fun to play.
Great video Dan. Great computer!
19:01 Alien Breed 2 3D. It doesn't look like you know how to change the resolution, because you show it in default. Press Enter on Numpad for fullscreen or + and - to adjust the rendered window. How fast does it run in fullscreen?
Ah thanks, I was looking in the menus, hitting escape etc. and couldn't see a way. I tried to get the RTG version working for a couple of days, but the colours were all crazy and messed up so gave up on that.
@@danwood_uk RTG was a bit trickier. You need the usuals (RTGmaster, P96/CV643D and AHI), the AB3D2 RTG patch from aminet and patience, because the only thing I really remember was me tinkering for hours until I was happy with :) And it was a long time ago, about 2004, when I still had real hardware up and running. So maybe (hopefully) everything software-wise is more reliable nowadays.
What is the chipmem/motherboard access speed? The Blizzard PPC is rather slow to access the motherboard compared to Apollo 1260 or ACA. Part of the appeal here is getting a similar card to the Blizzard but with lower latency.
What is the OS on the CRT seen at around 1:23?
AmigaOS 3.9
looks bloody amazing. Its a shame its a similar story to the commodore 128 where you have to use seperate monitors (for now) but wow ive never seen such impressiveness on just a 1200. Its pretty incredible that companies or people are making such devices for such computers that were discontinued many years ago.
While you wait for the scandoubler, you can at least use NewMode for older Workbench-launchable apps that lacked RTG screenmode capability.
Is it possible to enable virtual memory within shapeshifter?
Still have my A1200 with its blizzard a1220 4mb(just bought the 4mb upgrade for it). Back in the day I also had a 420mb 3.5in hdd inside. Now I've fitted a 8gb cf card.
I'm guessing installing the fan first and then the accelerator would have made that job much easier and quicker as you would be able to see where to connect it. Maybe.
It seems my floppy drive is a bit longer than most A1200s. The guys are aware of this and doing a fix for those of us with Panasonic drives.
Hello, Can Doom be played full screen?
What an accelerator? By looking at this upgraded A1200 I wish I had it instead of A4000 because the big box Amigas are not cheap to upgrade.
I have a question if someone can help me. I have an A500+ that is PAL but I live in the USA and want NTSC. the question is can I just simply replace the PAL Fat Agnus chip with a NTSC Fat Agnus or is there other chips that need replaced as well?
maybe ask around here ua-cam.com/channels/SWXB7cc8mAtCjK8iXAJc1A.html he's on Twitter as well
lol nvm; 1.008 already updated. :) Very nice review video--thank you! My A4000 and A3000 are eagerly waiting for the Warp 4060 to make its debut. :)
Cheers Dan, great vid. I've got the Vampire 1200 and it seems so much more finicky compared to the Warp - plus the Warp "feels" like an accelerator instead of a replacement for the chipset because of the real 060.
Thanks John, glad you’re enjoying the vids and thanks for the support. I owe you a beer when we can get to events again.
Hi, IWhere I can buy this? your link have only description of the hardware.
Availability when and where can I buy one?
I heard something like september 2020
Same. I was like SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY from the get go.
Does anyone know of an Amiga-like OS that has an HTML5 browser and is pretty close to the speed of current computers and isn't super expensive? That's what I want. I'll stick to my stock A500 for the huge library of awesome Amiga games. Thanks
Tried AROS or MorphOS?
I had an external 4x CD-player to my a 1200 (PCM-slot on the left side). I think I've thrown it away along with the powersupply, darn. I also had an expansion card in the trap door (Microbotics 1230 XA 50 MHz) with an 882 Fpu (I think) and an mmu and 16 MB RAM.
the one that does the 39 seconds boot timing? thanks.
Dan do u have the Amiga 1200 from Escom? by Amiga Technologies? i wanted to download the rom for it thanks.
Would love to buy this card but with the release of the Nvidia 3070/80/90 cards and an i9 processor, I am curious if I would get the same performance as this 060 accelerator through my PC using an emulator?
I wonder if it would be possible to make an Amiga accelerator out of a Raspberry Pi in the same way that they managed to make an accelerator for the BBC Micro through its Tube port?
I wonder how many of those high-end 060 and 060+RTG emualtors were produced on UAE rather than a real souped-up Amiga?
0:30 could be me in the 80-90s only I was stuck with a c64c sort of lookalike 🙂
Even if I am a little late...but amazing retro video, amazing card... I wrote them, would like to oder. Hopefully getting one. Thank You!
I wrote them over their form , directly email for order but no respond. This makes it a little sad...
accelerator cards have always been interesting but they seem to be at a point the amgia is basically a backplane/pass-through and your just running a SBC over it. much like taking a 486 computer getting a pentium PCI SBC (single board computer) to run over it's PCI bus, is it still really a 486 system? no it's just a hodgepodge setup to provide power to the SBC and some ports/connections.
I hope they are making progress with the 4000 version.