This is an excellent teaching! Unfortunately, too many Christians are stuck in the justification stage. I was too until 4 years ago. Now, I’m trying to warn, inform, or wake folks up so they can see their error. Pray, read and fast! Jesus Christ loves you and I do too!!❤
This morning I woke up trying to understand the meaning of sanctification so that I can make the adjustment needed to try living the way I need to, so I typed the word sanctification on UA-cam and sure enough I found this detailed and well laid out exactly how my soul needed to hear it to benefit from it. Thank you!
Regarding the battle of sanctification: Proverbs 26:14 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief. Therefore, the just struggles in sanctification.
Sanctification means we have been saved from sin and Satan and justified Sanctification means sin now becomes an abhorance to us. This is a miracle of God's grace by receiving a new heart being connected to the True Vine and near His fruit to His glory, we will be saved and STAY saved ready for the day of our glorification when Jesus comes. Jesus judges on our works or the knowledge we have recieved and apply it to our lives . The more knowledge we have the more responsibilty we have. Thank you for your study.
Sanctification means we have been justified by faith in Christ. And the Holy Spirit now indwelling us begins to make us a new creation. Growing us in holiness. Deepening our repentance toward sin. Conforming us to the image of Christ for the glory of Christ.
The new heart doctrine is rooted in replacement theology which is antisemitic. The Ezekiel passage that mentions the new heart is for the Jews in the millenium.
Got to be more careful how you mention jesus judges us. Jesus judges us at the Bema seat meaning judgement seat of Christ (only believers get there) and he judges us on our sanctification process. Basically judges if we deserve rewards/crowns or not. Does not have anything to do with judging us for Heaven or hell. Those who get judged at the judgement seat of Christ are believers who are saved being judged on their works for rewards. The other judgement is the great white throne judgement where non believers go and all those who will be sentenced to hell
@@johnnybalistreri1085 but surely 2 Cor 5 tells us we must all live to please God at all times in view of the fact that we will all stand before God at the Final Judgment, where we will receive either “good or evil” according to our works done in this life. There is not even a hint of an absolute assurance of salvation anywhere to be found here.
Meaning of salvation Greek sozo is to be protected and preserved throughout the entire process. It is a lifetime of overcoming sin in your mortal body.
Justification is by faith alone. Not works, baptism, sacraments, rituals, prayers, church tradition, etc. By grace alone, thru faith alone, in Christ alone.
Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall the Lord: 12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; 12:16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Hebrews 12:28-29 28- Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverance and godly fear: 29- For our God is a consuming fire.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Here's THE GOSPEL OF SALVATION. BAPTISM IS NOT NECESSARY FOR SALVATION. ( BTW: I'm not against baptism). Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures. IF SO WHAT A FAILURE PAUL WOULD BE. 1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void. IF BAPTISM WAS NECESSARY PAUL WAS A TOTAL FAILURE. 1 Corinthians 1:14-16 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, so that no one would say you were baptized in my name. Now I did baptize also the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized any other. SALVATION IS BY FAITH & FAITH ALONE. 🙏 ALWAYS READ THE WHOLE SCRIPTURES BEFORE MAKING BIG CLAIMS.
The baptism is a necessity the Lord says he's send the comforter whom will baptise you with fire and of the holyghost, and the spirit beareth witness with my spirit that we are children of God
the problem is that you dont know what salvation is, how to get there is of secondary importance if you dont know this first thing. I am judging by what you said
Baptism is very necessary. You don't just pick a verse in the Bible and lay claims to it. You read the Bible in it's whole entirety. Now listen to the master Himself: "Unless you are born of water and the Spirit, you shall not enter the Kingdom of God"
I'm not young, I'm 45, I didn't pick up the bible until a few years ago, I have physical issues and the holy spirit is doing something with sanctification and deliverance where I'm constantly tired and exhausted. I can barely slfunction sometimes. How am I suppose to have a day job?
A person can be saved even without water baptism or baptism of the Holy Spirit. But one must have a new birth experience ie., a personal encounter with Christ. ”because if you acknowledge and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord [recognizing His power, authority, and majesty as God], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.“ Romans 10:9 AMP
Repent of Sins for justification is a false doctrine. Only believing the Gospel justifies, Repent(change of mind) from unbelief to believing the Gospel justifies forever since once justified always jusified, justification is eternal and can not be lost.
The complete process of salvation is not known! And why? Because a lot of information is not in the Bible and some of it is misinterpreted! «God became man so that man can become God» Wolfgang Smith Now, what in the world does Wolfgang Smith mean by that? Good question!
6:56- “Baptism is a salvation issue. You can’t be in covenant with God, you can’t be saved without baptism.” I don’t believe this is correct. I’d challenge this part of the teaching. Abraham was considered righteous without baptism. Thief on The Cross was in paradise without baptism. Where does this part of his teaching come from?
1 Pet 3:21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: How long you have been justified/saved should help you learn that baptism is apart of the sanctification process, you get baptized out of obedience to God's word, or you deny His word and are rebellious to God, moving toward a hardened heart, blessings!
Is this teacher’s name Timothy Lee? (I’ll be working from that assumption so please tell me if I’m mistaken about that.) I have no college degrees and I’ve never attended Bible College or seminary classes so I’ll understand if some people choose to explain this subject the way Mr. Lee does. The other side of that coin is that my parents read Bible stories to me almost every day until I could read them for myself and encouraged me to memorize Bible passages from the time I could repeat phrases after them. They had taught me how to use marginal references and concordances by the mid-1950s. I began using those study tools in earnest in 1958. Maybe in another thirty-some years, Mr. Lee’s understanding of this subject will be closer to what mine is now. Most clergy focus almost exclusively on justification. On the one hand, I think it would be better for them to preach some sermons on sanctification and some sermons on glorification but there is a sense in which justification IS “more important, i.e. it is the immediate point of need of the majority of the people in our world. Some clergy (less than 2%?) preach as much about sanctification as they do about justification. Some clergy (less than 1%?) preach as much or more about glorification than they do about justification. So I’m delighted that Mr. Lee is bringing up the subjects of sanctification and glorification. It’s not clear to me why Mr. Lee didn’t explain justification in terms of God’s forgiveness. Or did he do that and I just missed it? I agree with Mr. Lee’s choice of words to explain sanctification but I like to explain it in terms of transformation. I don’t think he used that word - but maybe I missed it. Mr. Lee seems to equate glorification with “the rapture”. I’m not saying that’s wrong but I understand that word, “rapture” to be taken from the Greek word that is usually translated “caught up” in English translations of I Thessalonians 4:17. Christians owe it to themselves to read that entire chapter (or at least verses 13-18) to see whether what they are being taught about the rapture fits the context of that chapter. The sacrifice of Jesus was once for all time and once for all humans. It is never to be repeated and nothing can ever be added to it. God instructed the Hebrews to bring a sacrifice, not merely once in lifetime but each time they became aware of sins of commission or sins of omission. I understand that to mean that we need to ask for God’s forgiveness, not merely once in our lifetime but after each time we are made aware that we have done something wrong (something motivated by selfishness) or that we have failed to do something we should have done. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what Mr. Lee is saying but it seems to me that he is saying (or implying) that pastors should require a different level of Christian maturity (as indicated by behavior) from Christians a decade after they first professed faith in Jesus than from Christians who first made a profession of faith only a year ago. I wonder whether Mr. Lee means something different than something I heard a pastor say a few decades ago, “Let’s have high standards for membership, higher standards for leadership and no standards for fellowship.” Please - anyone who is interested in this subject - let me know how you understand either what Mr. Lee said about this in this video or what the pastor quoted in the last paragraph might have meant by his suggestion.
We are not glorified at the rapture because we have not yet been judged at the JSOC. A glorified body is THE reward and goal of salvation before the Millennium to be counted as worthy to enter the kOH/KOG and not be cast out for the 1K years. The whole of scripture is to prepare believers for the kingdom (not heaven). Our inheritance/kingdom comes through sanctification per Acts 20.32/26.18.
@@johnhoffman8203 I’m always interested in trying to understand how various people understand the Bible. You didn’t qualify any of the statements in your comment, i.e. you seem quite confident that your understanding of future events is the only correct way to interpret the Bible. I’m aware of four methods of Bible interpretation - the historicist method, the preterist method, the futurist method and the allegorical method. Which method do you use (or prefer)? If you aren’t acquainted with the methods I listed here, do you think of yourself as interpreting the Bible literally?
@@rogermetzger7335 I will admit that there is some common sense involved here along with literal interpretation of scripture where probable. I didn't see any verses in your comments substantiating your views or opinions. I'm not evens sure where we disagree.
@@johnhoffman8203 Many of the conservative Christians with whom I have spoken subscribe to the doctrine variously described as “a two-stage second coming” of Jesus or a “rapture” of the church BEFORE his second coming. When I compare John 14:2 & 3, I Corinthians 15:51-54 and I Thessalonians 4:13-18, it seems to me all three passages are references to the same event. If I were to explain what I consider to be the principles of Bible interpretation that lead me to understand those passages the way I do, would that be considered argumentative?
@@rogermetzger7335 Many differences between 1Cor 15.51/52 and 1 Thes 4.13-18. 1 Cor is at the end of the Millennium by the description of the last trumpet and that death is defeated per 1 Cor 15.24-28 of which verse 24 speaks of the third resurrection (implied). Two resurrections of the body are implied by Rev 20.5/6. Then Rev 21.4 ties them together by death being the last enemy destroyed (1 Cor 15.54-56). All these refer to when Christ turns His reign and rule over to God, death is destroyed and all believers receive their glorified body (those in outer darkness outside the KOH. 1 Thes 4 doesnt mention a glorified body at that time and is in 2 parts, dead and alive, has a trumpet, but not the last one. One is a mystery, the other is not. If you take 1 Cor 15 as explaining the three resurrections, Christ, then those of the first resurrection, the rest at the end of 1K years it ties together. Rapture (all), JSOC (those worthy of the kingdom), then the rest at the end of the Millennium. Mt 24. 40/41 refer to the rapture also.
You can’t be saved without baptism ? Oh oh, red flag. We are saved by faith in Jesus blood, period. No baptism, prayer, walking down the isle or raising my hand during service will save anyone. I stopped the video right there and am moving on from your channel.
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” Acts 2:37 -38 ESV
Why didn't he use more meaningful examples than dress or hair? Like ministering to orphans or being kind? I hate it when people use very specific examples to reel people into their point instead of being a little fairer to the other side.
You dont need to repent to be justified, repent of what? Repentance is a work as is baptism and we cant work for justification, it is the calling of God and not our works that give us rebirth in Christ. We dont need (there is no such thing) the baptism of the Holy Spirit to maintain our justification, nor does water baptism. Water baptism is the first step in sanctification, not the last step in justification. You people obscure the calling of God and close the door to sanctification by combining the two.
@@RadioRanchitoMeGustaMasTanTan Repentance is a term for believers after justification/part of sanctification. So, all people, yes, all believers need to ask for forgiveness to Jesus who is right now our great high priest. Why would a non-believer utilize Jesus, whom they dont know, to intercede for them?
@@UgochukwuAD He preached that complete salvation is a process through Jesus the Christ. It starts in Jn 3.3 where one through rebirth/justification can only see the kingdom (the goal of salvation). Then in Jn 3.5 one needs rebirth and sanctification (baptism is the first step) to enter the kingdom. In Jn 14.6 Jesus said "I am the way (through the judgement seat of Christ), the truth (salvation by His blood only), and the life (a glorified body [flesh and bone animated by the Holy Spirit] serving in the Millennium for 1K years). This is complete salvation, spirit, soul and body.
This concept of Justification is superstitious and fantasy and not bible based. The way to detect heresy is by noticing how little bible is used and how much credit is given to their teachers.
@@achilles1191 Justification is God pardoning a sinner when the person obeys the Spirit and repents of their Rom 8:7 attitude and accepts JESUS' death for theirs. Romans 2:13 and 5:9 and 10
Rapture is not a true Bible concept. The Bible is so direct and we should learn to believe in "Thus says the Lord" and not superstitious theories other people think or feel lest we be deceived.
This is an excellent teaching! Unfortunately, too many Christians are stuck in the justification stage. I was too until 4 years ago. Now, I’m trying to warn, inform, or wake folks up so they can see their error. Pray, read and fast! Jesus Christ loves you and I do too!!❤
This morning I woke up trying to understand the meaning of sanctification so that I can make the adjustment needed to try living the way I need to, so I typed the word sanctification on UA-cam and sure enough I found this detailed and well laid out exactly how my soul needed to hear it to benefit from it. Thank you!
Praise God the Father, Son and Spirit.
What an absolute explanation.
I erroneously believed that Sanctification was the path to Justification. This clears up my ignorance. PTL!
wow, thank you pastor! it's mindblowing
Wonderful Message Lee
Ps Daljeet David from Varanasi India
Absolutely, terrific loved, that you inferred an excellent spirit, wants to do the will of God.
Regarding the battle of sanctification:
Proverbs 26:14
For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
Therefore, the just struggles in sanctification.
its actually Proverbs 24:16 :) God bless!
@@reality4once497 Thanks! 😊
Amen
Who is this guy? I like him.
Blessed you sir
What is the name of this Teacher. He just crashed me, I though I understood Salvation process until I watched this video
Sanctification means we have been saved from sin and Satan and justified Sanctification means sin now becomes an abhorance to us. This is a miracle of God's grace by receiving a new heart being connected to the True Vine and near His fruit to His glory, we will be saved and STAY saved ready for the day of our glorification when Jesus comes. Jesus judges on our works or the knowledge we have recieved and apply it to our lives . The more knowledge we have the more responsibilty we have. Thank you for your study.
Sanctification means we have been justified by faith in Christ. And the Holy Spirit now indwelling us begins to make us a new creation. Growing us in holiness. Deepening our repentance toward sin. Conforming us to the image of Christ for the glory of Christ.
The new heart doctrine is rooted in replacement theology which is antisemitic. The Ezekiel passage that mentions the new heart is for the Jews in the millenium.
Got to be more careful how you mention jesus judges us. Jesus judges us at the Bema seat meaning judgement seat of Christ (only believers get there) and he judges us on our sanctification process. Basically judges if we deserve rewards/crowns or not. Does not have anything to do with judging us for Heaven or hell. Those who get judged at the judgement seat of Christ are believers who are saved being judged on their works for rewards. The other judgement is the great white throne judgement where non believers go and all those who will be sentenced to hell
@@johnnybalistreri1085 but surely 2 Cor 5 tells us we must all live to please God at all times in view of the fact that we will all stand before God at the Final Judgment, where we will receive either “good or evil” according to our works done in this life. There is not even a hint of an absolute assurance of salvation anywhere to be found here.
Fair enough. Thanks for sharing.
Meaning of salvation Greek sozo is to be protected and preserved throughout the entire process. It is a lifetime of overcoming sin in your mortal body.
Amen
Justification is by faith alone. Not works, baptism, sacraments, rituals, prayers, church tradition, etc. By grace alone, thru faith alone, in Christ alone.
Amen Ephesians 2:8-9
Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall the Lord:
12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
12:16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
Hebrews 12:28-29
28- Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverance and godly fear:
29- For our God is a consuming fire.
Jesus said to watch and pray that you be counted worthy to escape😊😮
Very interesting and educative.
More platforms please where I can get your teachings
God please deliver me from myself
You speak okay sir 🤲
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Here's THE GOSPEL OF SALVATION.
BAPTISM IS NOT NECESSARY FOR SALVATION. ( BTW: I'm not against baptism).
Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures.
IF SO WHAT A FAILURE PAUL WOULD BE.
1 Corinthians 1:17
For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void.
IF BAPTISM WAS NECESSARY PAUL WAS A TOTAL FAILURE.
1 Corinthians 1:14-16
I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, so that no one would say you were baptized in my name. Now I did baptize also the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized any other.
SALVATION IS BY FAITH & FAITH ALONE. 🙏
ALWAYS READ THE WHOLE SCRIPTURES BEFORE MAKING BIG CLAIMS.
The baptism is a necessity the Lord says he's send the comforter whom will baptise you with fire and of the holyghost, and the spirit beareth witness with my spirit that we are children of God
the problem is that you dont know what salvation is, how to get there is of secondary importance if you dont know this first thing. I am judging by what you said
there is multiple different baptisms
Baptism is very necessary. You don't just pick a verse in the Bible and lay claims to it. You read the Bible in it's whole entirety. Now listen to the master Himself: "Unless you are born of water and the Spirit, you shall not enter the Kingdom of God"
@@bonaventureamarah7466 what about the thief who was hanging beside Jesus Christ 🤔🤔
What do you mean about baptism is salvation issue?
Are you referring to water baptism?
I'm not young, I'm 45, I didn't pick up the bible until a few years ago, I have physical issues and the holy spirit is doing something with sanctification and deliverance where I'm constantly tired and exhausted. I can barely slfunction sometimes. How am I suppose to have a day job?
Is healing anywhere in sanctification
A person can be saved even without water baptism or baptism of the Holy Spirit. But one must have a new birth experience ie., a personal encounter with Christ.
”because if you acknowledge and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord [recognizing His power, authority, and majesty as God], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.“
Romans 10:9 AMP
Moment by moment choices can indicate rebellion. CHRISTIANITY IS COUNTER CULTURE , NOT CULTURE CONFORMING.
Repent of Sins for justification is a false doctrine. Only believing the Gospel justifies, Repent(change of mind) from unbelief to believing the Gospel justifies forever since once justified always jusified, justification is eternal and can not be lost.
14:35; what did he say? they don’t understand this what???
The complete process of salvation is not known!
And why? Because a lot of information is not in the Bible and some of it is misinterpreted!
«God became man so that man can become God»
Wolfgang Smith
Now, what in the world does Wolfgang Smith mean by that? Good question!
6:56- “Baptism is a salvation issue. You can’t be in covenant with God, you can’t be saved without baptism.” I don’t believe this is correct. I’d challenge this part of the teaching. Abraham was considered righteous without baptism. Thief on The Cross was in paradise without baptism. Where does this part of his teaching come from?
Baptistism is just the answer of a good conscience towards God. Has nothing to do with your salvation.
Hey… you don’t need to be baptized to be saved .
1 Pet 3:21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
How long you have been justified/saved should help you learn that baptism is apart of the sanctification process, you get baptized out of obedience to God's word, or you deny His word and are rebellious to God, moving toward a hardened heart, blessings!
Is this teacher’s name Timothy Lee? (I’ll be working from that assumption so please tell me if I’m mistaken about that.)
I have no college degrees and I’ve never attended Bible College or seminary classes so I’ll understand if some people choose to explain this subject the way Mr. Lee does.
The other side of that coin is that my parents read Bible stories to me almost every day until I could read them for myself and encouraged me to memorize Bible passages from the time I could repeat phrases after them. They had taught me how to use marginal references and concordances by the mid-1950s. I began using those study tools in earnest in 1958. Maybe in another thirty-some years, Mr. Lee’s understanding of this subject will be closer to what mine is now.
Most clergy focus almost exclusively on justification. On the one hand, I think it would be better for them to preach some sermons on sanctification and some sermons on glorification but there is a sense in which justification IS “more important, i.e. it is the immediate point of need of the majority of the people in our world.
Some clergy (less than 2%?) preach as much about sanctification as they do about justification.
Some clergy (less than 1%?) preach as much or more about glorification than they do about justification.
So I’m delighted that Mr. Lee is bringing up the subjects of sanctification and glorification.
It’s not clear to me why Mr. Lee didn’t explain justification in terms of God’s forgiveness. Or did he do that and I just missed it?
I agree with Mr. Lee’s choice of words to explain sanctification but I like to explain it in terms of transformation. I don’t think he used that word - but maybe I missed it.
Mr. Lee seems to equate glorification with “the rapture”. I’m not saying that’s wrong but I understand that word, “rapture” to be taken from the Greek word that is usually translated “caught up” in English translations of I Thessalonians 4:17. Christians owe it to themselves to read that entire chapter (or at least verses 13-18) to see whether what they are being taught about the rapture fits the context of that chapter.
The sacrifice of Jesus was once for all time and once for all humans. It is never to be repeated and nothing can ever be added to it. God instructed the Hebrews to bring a sacrifice, not merely once in lifetime but each time they became aware of sins of commission or sins of omission. I understand that to mean that we need to ask for God’s forgiveness, not merely once in our lifetime but after each time we are made aware that we have done something wrong (something motivated by selfishness) or that we have failed to do something we should have done.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding what Mr. Lee is saying but it seems to me that he is saying (or implying) that pastors should require a different level of Christian maturity (as indicated by behavior) from Christians a decade after they first professed faith in Jesus than from Christians who first made a profession of faith only a year ago.
I wonder whether Mr. Lee means something different than something I heard a pastor say a few decades ago, “Let’s have high standards for membership, higher standards for leadership and no standards for fellowship.”
Please - anyone who is interested in this subject - let me know how you understand either what Mr. Lee said about this in this video or what the pastor quoted in the last paragraph might have meant by his suggestion.
We are not glorified at the rapture because we have not yet been judged at the JSOC. A glorified body is THE reward and goal of salvation before the Millennium to be counted as worthy to enter the kOH/KOG and not be cast out for the 1K years. The whole of scripture is to prepare believers for the kingdom (not heaven). Our inheritance/kingdom comes through sanctification per Acts 20.32/26.18.
@@johnhoffman8203 I’m always interested in trying to understand how various people understand the Bible.
You didn’t qualify any of the statements in your comment, i.e. you seem quite confident that your understanding of future events is the only correct way to interpret the Bible.
I’m aware of four methods of Bible interpretation - the historicist method, the preterist method, the futurist method and the allegorical method. Which method do you use (or prefer)? If you aren’t acquainted with the methods I listed here, do you think of yourself as interpreting the Bible literally?
@@rogermetzger7335 I will admit that there is some common sense involved here along with literal interpretation of scripture where probable. I didn't see any verses in your comments substantiating your views or opinions. I'm not evens sure where we disagree.
@@johnhoffman8203 Many of the conservative Christians with whom I have spoken subscribe to the doctrine variously described as “a two-stage second coming” of Jesus or a “rapture” of the church BEFORE his second coming.
When I compare John 14:2 & 3, I Corinthians 15:51-54 and I Thessalonians 4:13-18, it seems to me all three passages are references to the same event.
If I were to explain what I consider to be the principles of Bible interpretation that lead me to understand those passages the way I do, would that be considered argumentative?
@@rogermetzger7335 Many differences between 1Cor 15.51/52 and 1 Thes 4.13-18. 1 Cor is at the end of the Millennium by the description of the last trumpet and that death is defeated per 1 Cor 15.24-28 of which verse 24 speaks of the third resurrection (implied). Two resurrections of the body are implied by Rev 20.5/6. Then Rev 21.4 ties them together by death being the last enemy destroyed (1 Cor 15.54-56). All these refer to when Christ turns His reign and rule over to God, death is destroyed and all believers receive their glorified body (those in outer darkness outside the KOH. 1 Thes 4 doesnt mention a glorified body at that time and is in 2 parts, dead and alive, has a trumpet, but not the last one. One is a mystery, the other is not. If you take 1 Cor 15 as explaining the three resurrections, Christ, then those of the first resurrection, the rest at the end of 1K years it ties together. Rapture (all), JSOC (those worthy of the kingdom), then the rest at the end of the Millennium. Mt 24. 40/41 refer to the rapture also.
That is not correct, you don’t have to be baptized to be saved.
You can’t be saved without baptism ? Oh oh, red flag.
We are saved by faith in Jesus blood, period.
No baptism, prayer, walking down the isle or raising my hand during service will save anyone.
I stopped the video right there and am moving on from your channel.
Amen
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
Acts 2:37 -38 ESV
Baptism for salvation? That’s just not true.
Why didn't he use more meaningful examples than dress or hair? Like ministering to orphans or being kind? I hate it when people use very specific examples to reel people into their point instead of being a little fairer to the other side.
You dont need to repent to be justified, repent of what? Repentance is a work as is baptism and we cant work for justification, it is the calling of God and not our works that give us rebirth in Christ. We dont need (there is no such thing) the baptism of the Holy Spirit to maintain our justification, nor does water baptism. Water baptism is the first step in sanctification, not the last step in justification. You people obscure the calling of God and close the door to sanctification by combining the two.
Anyone who sins needs to repent and ask for forgiveness, wouldn't you agree brother?
@@RadioRanchitoMeGustaMasTanTan Repentance is a term for believers after justification/part of sanctification. So, all people, yes, all believers need to ask for forgiveness to Jesus who is right now our great high priest. Why would a non-believer utilize Jesus, whom they dont know, to intercede for them?
What was John then preaching?
@@UgochukwuAD He preached that complete salvation is a process through Jesus the Christ. It starts in Jn 3.3 where one through rebirth/justification can only see the kingdom (the goal of salvation). Then in Jn 3.5 one needs rebirth and sanctification (baptism is the first step) to enter the kingdom. In Jn 14.6 Jesus said "I am the way (through the judgement seat of Christ), the truth (salvation by His blood only), and the life (a glorified body [flesh and bone animated by the Holy Spirit] serving in the Millennium for 1K years). This is complete salvation, spirit, soul and body.
This concept of Justification is superstitious and fantasy and not bible based. The way to detect heresy is by noticing how little bible is used and how much credit is given to their teachers.
Show some scriptures to prove justification is heresy Matthew 11:19
I am open to your statement. Please say more
@@lovelife7145 Justification is biblical. It is the meaning/definition and process which is warped by clergy
@@achilles1191 Justification is God pardoning a sinner when the person obeys the Spirit and repents of their Rom 8:7 attitude and accepts JESUS' death for theirs. Romans 2:13 and 5:9 and 10
He speaks about rapture which is a false doctrine
He speaks wisdom the rapture is true
Rapture is not a true Bible concept. The Bible is so direct and we should learn to believe in "Thus says the Lord" and not superstitious theories other people think or feel lest we be deceived.