Just wanted to say thank you to all of you for the awesome response to this update. This video has received the most likes and comments of any of my videos so far, and it's still within the first 24 hours since posting (as I type this). All of your kind words have really motivated me to make even more progress and share more with you all! ❤
Wow, great overview and tour of the area youre modeling. Thats a good idea to have adjustable feet for your layout. Holy cow you did a great job cleaning up! Great job representing the area you want to model on your layout! Thank for the video!
@@RoyEltham I'm with ya Roy. How dare life to think it can get in the way of our hobby! At least for me, the busiest time ends this week. (Not trying to rub it in, sorry. LOL)
I know right?!?! I'll be busy off and on until Mid July. I should still be able to make some progress between now and then, just not as much as I'd like. Also, no worries, I'm glad you will be able to get back to you two layouts soon (especially the N Scale one).
Thanks Kris, I wish I had the room to build in HO, because of the better availability of equipment and such. However, I really like how much N scale has expanded and the engineering they've done to improve the details and running.
Thanks Jason, glad you liked it. You are one of the folks that influenced me to go with a more prototypical setup with operations in mind, and I appreciate that a lot, because I am sure I will enjoy this a lot more in the long run.
@@RoyEltham Operations gives your layout a purpose and your less likely to get bored with it over time. If it wasn't for the changes to come with my room, I wouldn't be tearing mine down but I am building something better later.
That's my thinking too Jason, after watching your videos and several other youtubers that showcase operations on their layouts. I hope to someday be one of the "operations video" guys that people enjoy (like I enjoy their videos).
Thank you Anthony! I have been doing a lot of research, glad it came across. It doesn't hurt that I grew up in the area and the rail system there hasn't changed too much since when I was a kid.
Hey Roy wow the new layout is going to be pretty awesome. I look forward to following the process. Great job on the challenge 👍 I hope you keep it organized .
Thank you Jerry! Glad you like the layout plans. I will have a "part 2" of your challenge in a future video, and I will do my best to keep things organized. It's certainly a lot easier to work on the layout now that I got this much cleanup done.
ROY, ROY ROY, !!! HOLY COW!! this is going to be great. Love the Jerry sats clean up challenge, I really need to do that, the map its self looks like you drew a perfect track plan, then you switched to your actual plan and wow you nailed it. Love the divider idea at the military base. Its all going to come together nicely. Please keep us posted when ever you do anything to it, can't wait, I have to live vicariously thru you cause my layout is at a stand still right now but I'm still working the models. Thanks Roy great presentation.
Thank you Pappy! I'm really glad to hear you (and others here in the comments) say that I did good on the track plan representing the area, because I spent so much time working and reworking the plan, that was the thing that held me up from posting this video for so long. I finally got something I was happy with this last weekend, and then stayed up all night Sunday night getting this video out, because I promised you I would get it done this last weekend. :) I still have more Jerry's challenge to do, and, of course, I will keep you posted on any updates to the layout and related stuff. As Roy Smith says, one of the best parts of this hobby is sharing it with others.
@@RoyEltham the other part is having fun, I appreciate your promise, but don't loose sleep trying to pump something out, to please anyone but yourself. We're here for each other, we can wait for a video. 😊😀
I understand Pappy, I was having fun for sure. If I wasn't having fun, I would have gone to sleep on time! I just needed to set a deadline for myself or I would have just kept adjusting and delaying. Once I got a layout plan I was happy with, I wanted to get the video out to share with you all. Was worth a late night for the response I have gotten. :)
Roy, I am absolutely impressed. I may be late to your work, but I'm really looking forward to watching things go forward. This video explains some things I wondered about in more recent videos. Also, I really appreciate the closed captioning. Not everyone does that. Thank you!
Thank you Dunc! Glad you like my plans/layout. re. CC, I didn't do anything special that I am aware of, I think I just have it set to allow auto or something :)
@@DuncSargentsKarstValleyRR I just learned that I can go back and edit the auto generated ones. I might go fix up a couple things it got slightly wrong. Thanks for pointing out they were there.
Really cool plan and great in depth explanation on why and what your modeling roy! It's going to be a nice layout esp with that station vinny is making you! Take care!
Thanks Ian! Yes, the OTC building Vinny is making is going to be the highlight of my layout. I am super happy Vinny agreed to make that challenging building.
Man, Roy! That was one of the most brilliant and interesting walk throughs of a design process. Very cool to see the go from the reality/basis to the ideas and various incarnations of the plan. Looks awesome and looking forward to the progress (now that I have joined. Thought I had... obviously not).
hi Roy...i think you are doing a great job representing that area... glad you moved stuff around in tne first one OTC seemed to be cramped ..thx for sharing.. vinny
Love the layout so far! Also love the expansion plan. You’re supposed to crop the mess out of the photos to give us the illusion that you’re organized. ;) Can’t wait for the next update.
Thanks Mark! I have to do things in the "phases" because of work required make room for the expansions. That work is largely the parts of the mess that I did crop out of this video. :)
Thanks DruSteel69! The camera does make them look like light sabers doesn't it? :) They are very bright, so the camera white balance does a number on them. Glad you liked the update.
Great research. It's nice to model places we are familiar with and can do local research. I agree with others that building it in stages or phases will keep the project fresh. Be careful with portions that are out of reach. ( Ask me how I know) Plus my advice is always, less is more. Looking forward to seeing those VCRR Alcos in action and all the neat industries of Southern California, NW Los Angeles.
Thanks splitrock323! Having grown up in the area, I use to ride my bike as a kid alongside some of these tracks, and saw those Alco's move cars quite often in the 80s. I have tried to be mindful of the reach needed in places. The top surface of the foam sits at 31", and I am able to reach most areas fairly well. I'll just have to be careful of buildings or scenery I put in front. Sadly, I have not been able to find any N-Scale Alco S6 engines, so until someone makes some you and I will have to live with the slightly more modern engines they are using now. I have the VCRR 1560 GP15, and a GP38-2 that will be renumbers eventually to be VCRR 2136.
Thanks Thom! Yes, it is ambitious, but I know myself, and I don't think I would be happy unless I tried something a bit big and complex. I'm going to try and take more pictures and video clips as I go from now on, so that I can share better updates as I go.
I was considering doing a little more in depth "history of the VCRR" type video, and I would show a lot of pictures (and google maps views) of the prototype. I'll be visiting family there next week, so I can take first hand pictures/videos too. Since you are interested (and I think others might be), I will go ahead and work on that video!
I do Jerry's challenge about twice a month! :-) It was real fun the first couple times... Not so much now! :-) What program were you using to show your plans? Is than anyrail? I am badly in need and wanting to make a good digital representation of my layout for video highlights and dcc++. This was a very good, informative video. It was well produced. I enjoyed watching it to get a better look at what's to come. I am looking very forward to seeing your plans and model come to life. Keep the videos coming! Brian
Thank you Brian, for your feedback on this video, it was music to my ears, after spending the time researching and editing it together. Yes, the program I use is Anyrail 6. It took a little bit to get used to, but now I am pretty happy with it. The free version is limited to 50 pieces of track, but it's worth checking out before buying. I'm hoping to have 1 or 2 layout update videos per month over the summer, I'm excited to make progress and share it! I expect I'll be doing Jerry's challenge quite often in order to stay on top of the mess. :)
@@RoyEltham Yes. Anyrail is great. I have tried it out and used up my 50 pieces already. I hope to purchase the program sometime soon prior to going dc++. Keep Sharing. Look for an email from me soon. Brian
#1 How thick does your CNC machine cut? #2 What computer program are you using to high light the railroad lines on the map? #3 Would you build me a small cabinet with shelves? #4 I'll swap 4x8 feet foam sheets for the cabinet! #5 Very cool designs for the layout! #6 I've driven through Fillmore(CA-138?)?
1. The CNC is a Shapeoko 3 XXL by Carbide 3D with some upgrades. It has a clearance and Z travel of about 6 inches or so, but the cut depth depends on the end mill bit used. I think the longest bit I could safely use in the router is around 2-2.5" so that would be the max cut thickness. 2. I was using this site here: wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/California/Railroads (hopefully the link works for you). 3-4. I had help from a friend building those two racks I showed, I would consider getting him to help me make one for you, especially for the right amount of 4x8 foam sheets, but you might be better of asking Jerry. 5. Thank you, Glad to have RoyH approval. ;) 6. Fillmore is along CA-126. Moorpark is along CA-118 (Ronald Reagan Freeway). Both run roughly east/west and intersect with I-5. CA-138 runs between Palmdale and Cajon Junction.
@@RoyEltham OK, I've still been through Fillmore and CA-126! And also CA-138 from I-15 to I-5! Been through Palmdale a few times to! CA-14, US-395, I-5. Anyway I can go and not go through any part of LA, is good for me!
Yep, I have been through all those routes many times myself. I avoid driving through LA as well. Often going around the east side 15->210->118 to get to the Oxnard area to visit family/friends.
Hey, I'm going to be visiting John Dilley tonight, 7/15. Thought about having my picture taken at the Oxnard Transportation Center if you wanted to meet me?
I live in San Diego. Oxnard is my home town, and where my Mom still lives. It would take like 4 hours to get there right now. I would have loved to meet up with you and John. Sorry :(
Just wanted to say thank you to all of you for the awesome response to this update. This video has received the most likes and comments of any of my videos so far, and it's still within the first 24 hours since posting (as I type this). All of your kind words have really motivated me to make even more progress and share more with you all! ❤
Wow, great overview and tour of the area youre modeling.
Thats a good idea to have adjustable feet for your layout.
Holy cow you did a great job cleaning up!
Great job representing the area you want to model on your layout! Thank for the video!
Thank you Joe! Really appreciate your comments!
good luck man! I hope you are able to make it!
Thanks you, I hope so too! I'll do the best I can, but it will take a while.
@@RoyEltham and it definitely wont be cheap...
@@OxnardLocalRailfan Tell me about it! :D I've already spent a lot, and will have to spend more as I build it.
Great update Roy. Looks to me like you're representing the area pretty accurately. Looking forward to the build - this should be a lot of fun!
Thanks John! I'm really excited to get building more. I wish work wasn't so busy right now, so I could work on the build full time.
@@RoyEltham I'm with ya Roy. How dare life to think it can get in the way of our hobby! At least for me, the busiest time ends this week. (Not trying to rub it in, sorry. LOL)
I know right?!?! I'll be busy off and on until Mid July. I should still be able to make some progress between now and then, just not as much as I'd like. Also, no worries, I'm glad you will be able to get back to you two layouts soon (especially the N Scale one).
Looks fun Roy. I’m amazed at how much you can fit with N scale. Can’t wait to see more.
Thanks Kris, I wish I had the room to build in HO, because of the better availability of equipment and such. However, I really like how much N scale has expanded and the engineering they've done to improve the details and running.
Awesome update Roy! I am looking forward to this build. - Jason
Thanks Jason, glad you liked it. You are one of the folks that influenced me to go with a more prototypical setup with operations in mind, and I appreciate that a lot, because I am sure I will enjoy this a lot more in the long run.
@@RoyEltham Operations gives your layout a purpose and your less likely to get bored with it over time. If it wasn't for the changes to come with my room, I wouldn't be tearing mine down but I am building something better later.
That's my thinking too Jason, after watching your videos and several other youtubers that showcase operations on their layouts. I hope to someday be one of the "operations video" guys that people enjoy (like I enjoy their videos).
Wow Roy...you’ve got things planned out nicely....lots of research....the end layout will really represent the area your modeling
Thank you Anthony! I have been doing a lot of research, glad it came across. It doesn't hurt that I grew up in the area and the rail system there hasn't changed too much since when I was a kid.
Hey Roy wow the new layout is going to be pretty awesome. I look forward to following the process. Great job on the challenge 👍 I hope you keep it organized .
Thank you Jerry! Glad you like the layout plans. I will have a "part 2" of your challenge in a future video, and I will do my best to keep things organized. It's certainly a lot easier to work on the layout now that I got this much cleanup done.
looks like a big plan to me
It is probably bigger than I should do, but this is reduced down from even bigger crazy plans I considered.
ROY, ROY ROY, !!! HOLY COW!! this is going to be great. Love the Jerry sats clean up challenge, I really need to do that, the map its self looks like you drew a perfect track plan, then you switched to your actual plan and wow you nailed it. Love the divider idea at the military base. Its all going to come together nicely. Please keep us posted when ever you do anything to it, can't wait, I have to live vicariously thru you cause my layout is at a stand still right now but I'm still working the models. Thanks Roy great presentation.
Thank you Pappy! I'm really glad to hear you (and others here in the comments) say that I did good on the track plan representing the area, because I spent so much time working and reworking the plan, that was the thing that held me up from posting this video for so long. I finally got something I was happy with this last weekend, and then stayed up all night Sunday night getting this video out, because I promised you I would get it done this last weekend. :) I still have more Jerry's challenge to do, and, of course, I will keep you posted on any updates to the layout and related stuff. As Roy Smith says, one of the best parts of this hobby is sharing it with others.
@@RoyEltham the other part is having fun, I appreciate your promise, but don't loose sleep trying to pump something out, to please anyone but yourself. We're here for each other, we can wait for a video. 😊😀
I understand Pappy, I was having fun for sure. If I wasn't having fun, I would have gone to sleep on time! I just needed to set a deadline for myself or I would have just kept adjusting and delaying.
Once I got a layout plan I was happy with, I wanted to get the video out to share with you all. Was worth a late night for the response I have gotten. :)
@@RoyEltham lol well, I guess I'm guilty of a little of that too lol times I should have went to bed my self.
Looking forward to seeing all the future updates!
Thanks Dave! I'm shooting for once a month on layout updates.
Roy, I am absolutely impressed. I may be late to your work, but I'm really looking forward to watching things go forward. This video explains some things I wondered about in more recent videos. Also, I really appreciate the closed captioning. Not everyone does that. Thank you!
Thank you Dunc! Glad you like my plans/layout.
re. CC, I didn't do anything special that I am aware of, I think I just have it set to allow auto or something :)
@@RoyEltham I think because of my left-over New Hampshire accent I have to hand edit all my subtitles!
@@DuncSargentsKarstValleyRR I just learned that I can go back and edit the auto generated ones. I might go fix up a couple things it got slightly wrong. Thanks for pointing out they were there.
good update keep up the good work
Thanks Lee!
Wow, Roy, this is going to be amazing - looking forward to seeing the progress!
Thanks Brian! Glad you like my plans!
@@RoyEltham - Yeah, looks great!
Really cool plan and great in depth explanation on why and what your modeling roy! It's going to be a nice layout esp with that station vinny is making you! Take care!
Thanks Ian! Yes, the OTC building Vinny is making is going to be the highlight of my layout. I am super happy Vinny agreed to make that challenging building.
Roy this is going to be amazing!! So excited for you.
Thanks Nissy! I'm really excited now too, having made the decisions and plans, I can dive in.
Very comprehensive plan,can't wait to see Vinnys build on there
Thanks Dave! I can't wait to see Vinny's build on there myself. :)
Man, Roy! That was one of the most brilliant and interesting walk throughs of a design process. Very cool to see the go from the reality/basis to the ideas and various incarnations of the plan. Looks awesome and looking forward to the progress (now that I have joined. Thought I had... obviously not).
Anthony, thank you for your kind words! Really glad you enjoyed it, and hope I can deliver on my plans.
hi Roy...i think you are doing a great job representing that area... glad you moved stuff around in tne first one OTC seemed to be cramped ..thx for sharing.. vinny
Thanks Vinny! I had to make more room for OTC, can't be cramming your fine work into too little space! I value your opinion of my plan, thank you!
Love the layout so far! Also love the expansion plan. You’re supposed to crop the mess out of the photos to give us the illusion that you’re organized. ;) Can’t wait for the next update.
Thanks Mark! I have to do things in the "phases" because of work required make room for the expansions. That work is largely the parts of the mess that I did crop out of this video. :)
Very cool update, Roy. It’s nice to see your track plan. Are those light sabers on the ceiling. Ha ha Thanks for sharing.
Thanks DruSteel69! The camera does make them look like light sabers doesn't it? :) They are very bright, so the camera white balance does a number on them. Glad you liked the update.
@@RoyEltham 😀👍🏼
Can’t wait to see more Roy!
Thank you Vinny, hope to have the next update in less time than this one :), shooting for the beginning of June.
Great research. It's nice to model places we are familiar with and can do local research. I agree with others that building it in stages or phases will keep the project fresh. Be careful with portions that are out of reach. ( Ask me how I know) Plus my advice is always, less is more. Looking forward to seeing those VCRR Alcos in action and all the neat industries of Southern California, NW Los Angeles.
Thanks splitrock323! Having grown up in the area, I use to ride my bike as a kid alongside some of these tracks, and saw those Alco's move cars quite often in the 80s. I have tried to be mindful of the reach needed in places. The top surface of the foam sits at 31", and I am able to reach most areas fairly well. I'll just have to be careful of buildings or scenery I put in front. Sadly, I have not been able to find any N-Scale Alco S6 engines, so until someone makes some you and I will have to live with the slightly more modern engines they are using now. I have the VCRR 1560 GP15, and a GP38-2 that will be renumbers eventually to be VCRR 2136.
Ambitious, but building it in stages will make it easier. Looking forward to updates and pictures.
Thanks Thom! Yes, it is ambitious, but I know myself, and I don't think I would be happy unless I tried something a bit big and complex. I'm going to try and take more pictures and video clips as I go from now on, so that I can share better updates as I go.
@@RoyEltham sounds good. Maybe so me prototype pictures if possible, too. Sounds like a lot of interesting buildings.
I was considering doing a little more in depth "history of the VCRR" type video, and I would show a lot of pictures (and google maps views) of the prototype. I'll be visiting family there next week, so I can take first hand pictures/videos too. Since you are interested (and I think others might be), I will go ahead and work on that video!
@@RoyEltham , sounds like a plan!
I do Jerry's challenge about twice a month! :-) It was real fun the first couple times... Not so much now! :-) What program were you using to show your plans? Is than anyrail? I am badly in need and wanting to make a good digital representation of my layout for video highlights and dcc++. This was a very good, informative video. It was well produced. I enjoyed watching it to get a better look at what's to come. I am looking very forward to seeing your plans and model come to life. Keep the videos coming! Brian
Thank you Brian, for your feedback on this video, it was music to my ears, after spending the time researching and editing it together. Yes, the program I use is Anyrail 6. It took a little bit to get used to, but now I am pretty happy with it. The free version is limited to 50 pieces of track, but it's worth checking out before buying.
I'm hoping to have 1 or 2 layout update videos per month over the summer, I'm excited to make progress and share it!
I expect I'll be doing Jerry's challenge quite often in order to stay on top of the mess. :)
@@RoyEltham Yes. Anyrail is great. I have tried it out and used up my 50 pieces already. I hope to purchase the program sometime soon prior to going dc++. Keep Sharing. Look for an email from me soon. Brian
#1 How thick does your CNC machine cut? #2 What computer program are you using to high light the railroad lines on the map? #3 Would you build me a small cabinet with shelves? #4 I'll swap 4x8 feet foam sheets for the cabinet! #5 Very cool designs for the layout! #6 I've driven through Fillmore(CA-138?)?
1. The CNC is a Shapeoko 3 XXL by Carbide 3D with some upgrades. It has a clearance and Z travel of about 6 inches or so, but the cut depth depends on the end mill bit used. I think the longest bit I could safely use in the router is around 2-2.5" so that would be the max cut thickness.
2. I was using this site here: wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/California/Railroads (hopefully the link works for you).
3-4. I had help from a friend building those two racks I showed, I would consider getting him to help me make one for you, especially for the right amount of 4x8 foam sheets, but you might be better of asking Jerry.
5. Thank you, Glad to have RoyH approval. ;)
6. Fillmore is along CA-126. Moorpark is along CA-118 (Ronald Reagan Freeway). Both run roughly east/west and intersect with I-5. CA-138 runs between Palmdale and Cajon Junction.
@@RoyEltham OK, I've still been through Fillmore and CA-126! And also CA-138 from I-15 to I-5! Been through Palmdale a few times to! CA-14, US-395, I-5. Anyway I can go and not go through any part of LA, is good for me!
Yep, I have been through all those routes many times myself. I avoid driving through LA as well. Often going around the east side 15->210->118 to get to the Oxnard area to visit family/friends.
Hey, I'm going to be visiting John Dilley tonight, 7/15. Thought about having my picture taken at the Oxnard Transportation Center if you wanted to meet me?
I live in San Diego. Oxnard is my home town, and where my Mom still lives. It would take like 4 hours to get there right now. I would have loved to meet up with you and John. Sorry :(
@@RoyEltham I'm currently in Wilmington, California picking up 16 GenSets at ITL Intermodal.