@1RogerGore I dont know if "easier" is the right word, but yes, its more comfortable, the dpad is straight up better, six buttons on the front also really help to have some extra binds.
Nice video Momo. I just bought a leverless stick 1 month ago. I used to main DVJ and struggled a lot to EWGF on an xbox pad. I had something like 40-50 % accuracy when trying to EWGF so i just didnt used it often on ranked (im only mighty ruller atm). Now with the leverless, im playing heihachi and i can consistently do tripple EWGF combos in ranked. It improved my damage output so much i cant go back to pad anymore. Its just unbelievable you play at such high level using pad. You are amazing bro, keep up with the good work!
I waited so long for this😂 It’s my first tekken and my first fighting game, and I learned a lot watching you since I play this game, though I no longer play devil jin after I reached fujin and switched to claudio, I still watch every video of yours, devil jin is a fucking cool ass character man I will go use him again someday, hope you keep uploading videos!
Btw, I literally have the ultimate cheat code when to comes to doing wavu and electrics. I bought the Dualsense Edge literally just so I could do electrics and Wavus and tbh it paid off. I set my right back pedal to "RIGHT on DPAD", then do the following. Press Forward Dpad *Neutral* Down on Dpad and As Im holding down, I press my right back Pedal and Triangle at the same time! Its a "fair" way of doing them tournament legally.
@@ShikiRyougi05 Yeah i get what you mean, it took me longer to get it used to it on the left side. But like you said you can do it normally and i do too but its nice to have both options
I also did something similar to this on the dualsense edge, instead I used the left paddle and set it to triangle. so ur basically doing electrics with one hand which makes the timing much easier you just input the cd motion and use ur middle finger to hit the paddle on the back.
for how long do you have it now? I got one, played the shit out of it, but the d pad broke (d and f didn't work properly anymore) shortly after the warranty ended. i gave them the benefit of the doubt, got another one because man i really love the feel of the dpad, but same thing happened.
I personally use the Razer Wolverine v2 Chroma, it has a mechanical circular d-pad like the Raion. They recently released a new version, the v3, $100 bucks for a wired pro controller or you could pick up the v2 Chroma for $60 since they are trying to get rid of them.
Switched to leverless and I can electric on the P1 side like a pro. Movement KBD is trickier to learn on leverless but it is worth it! Consistent execution
i've used the commander since release but it finally gave out so on the release of Tekken 8 I bought this controller called the Betop it's super cheaper version Octa with interchangeable D-Pad i'm using the concave D-Pad it's easy to do QC movements
I had no idea you used pad! I also use pad as a Mishima player, I've tried leverless and stick but I can't get the hang of them. I ended up changing the d-pad on my ps5 pad and swapping them out for Battle Beaver ones. It's deffo made a big change in my wavus and electrics :D
I know they do custom controllers but I’m not sure if they are available for Xbox pads, I ended up also ordering a custom ps5 controller and they fitted in the battle beaver d-pads for me
I use the hori octa ps5 it has the same face button layout as as razor raion, as well as the pad it’s super comfortable especially if you play Mishimas , both are amazing for wave dash because of the floating dpad (the more you break in the pad the better it feels) Ps just don’t get the T8 hori version that was is 💩
Thanks for the video. I tried so hard to get HKjr who is another amazing mishima player who uses pad to do a hand cam video of his wavu wavu hut never succeeded. I honestly think that ps4 pad is better than ps5 for Tekken.
The Raion is a really solid pad, however there are 2 revisions of this controller, the first one all have issues with the dpads and overtime will start to misinput some things and will also just come very loose, the second revision fixed these issues but are harder to come by. The first revision of the Raion does last around a solid year and a bit of Mishima only use.
You probably know this already: just keep practicing. I used to be the opposite, couldn't really do it on P2. I just kept practising and now I'm quite consistent. Other than that, can't really give more specific tips without having more context unfortunately
Finally I found another person who uses the middle part of their thumb and not the tip for the d pad XD, I too have a huge swollen bulge at the middle of my thumb lmao
i think the best controller is the one that feels comfortable in your hands, electrics cause arthritis lol. 8bitdo pads got me going but i kill them every 8 months or so. flydigi vader 3 pro has been holding up.
i used to play heihachi (t7/t8) with the razer raion, but i found that i feel A LOT more confortable with a logitech f310. that gamepad's precision makes nosense
I loved this controller tbh, my dpad on it broke one day and I am unable to find one near me again that I can trust to buy lol. Im playing on octa right now but its not as good tbh
Love all of it's buttons but the D-pad is not ok. It has may misinput issues and no reliable backdash really. The dualsense feels more reliable imo. Also, mine has no pivot. Razer also did not take my refund and basically said F you.
Even till today - i have not found better then Keyboard for Tekken: W,A,S,D and Num-Lock numbers. I have tested everything, except Mix-Box. Stick is painful for your wrist, joy-stick is just not serious - i dont feel in control with PS, Xbox, Octa - whatever pads. Only keyboard actually feel normal and i only use Fingers and not wrist at all. Its like palying piano ;)
I'm selling my Raion for 70€ so i can get a flydigi vader 4 pro cause i need a pad for more than just fighting games, and the Vader 4 is literally the raion with more features but no PlayStation licensing (albeit its an asymmetrical thumbstick layout pad)
@@Akathysia you could probably setup some stuff for some character like I'm sure you could setup perfect electrics with ease if you figure out what button your pressing early or late and adjust
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Knee wanting to see your thumb is the Tekken equivalent of gym bros asking you to flex
I just got an Octa after having the og commander for 4 years, absolutely love it so far
Do you play on pc? I’ve always wanted to try that pad
@Hachijo3GS Yeah im on pc, works well, there is even a software app for hori stuff where you can change settings like the dpad sensitivity and stuff
@@avoidthevo1d Is it easier than ps4 pad?
@1RogerGore I dont know if "easier" is the right word, but yes, its more comfortable, the dpad is straight up better, six buttons on the front also really help to have some extra binds.
@@avoidthevo1d Ok thanks. I kinda can do electrics and wavu on ds4 but my thumb cries in pain everytime i play that mf. Maybe I'll give it a try
Nice video Momo. I just bought a leverless stick 1 month ago. I used to main DVJ and struggled a lot to EWGF on an xbox pad. I had something like 40-50 % accuracy when trying to EWGF so i just didnt used it often on ranked (im only mighty ruller atm). Now with the leverless, im playing heihachi and i can consistently do tripple EWGF combos in ranked. It improved my damage output so much i cant go back to pad anymore. Its just unbelievable you play at such high level using pad. You are amazing bro, keep up with the good work!
I agree on the take for the Xbox pad, but the Xbox Elite pad is much nicer and works a lot better for me as a Mishima player. Great review!
I waited so long for this😂 It’s my first tekken and my first fighting game, and I learned a lot watching you since I play this game, though I no longer play devil jin after I reached fujin and switched to claudio, I still watch every video of yours, devil jin is a fucking cool ass character man I will go use him again someday, hope you keep uploading videos!
Btw, I literally have the ultimate cheat code when to comes to doing wavu and electrics. I bought the Dualsense Edge literally just so I could do electrics and Wavus and tbh it paid off.
I set my right back pedal to "RIGHT on DPAD", then do the following. Press Forward Dpad *Neutral* Down on Dpad and As Im holding down, I press my right back Pedal and Triangle at the same time!
Its a "fair" way of doing them tournament legally.
I was so confused, like why this person stepping on the gas to do an electric, until I realised you meant paddle
This does work however this works like shit for left side, at that point you can just do them normally lol + the dpad is ass in general.
@@ShikiRyougi05 Yeah i get what you mean, it took me longer to get it used to it on the left side. But like you said you can do it normally and i do too but its nice to have both options
I also did something similar to this on the dualsense edge, instead I used the left paddle and set it to triangle. so ur basically doing electrics with one hand which makes the timing much easier you just input the cd motion and use ur middle finger to hit the paddle on the back.
@@astral9807 OOOUUU RESPECT, i actually do that as well sometimes, left paddle triangle and right is movement. Gj bro
whats ur thoughts on leverless with extra buttons? do u think its considered cheating cuz the way i see it its the easiest way to bypass cd execution
for how long do you have it now?
I got one, played the shit out of it, but the d pad broke (d and f didn't work properly anymore) shortly after the warranty ended. i gave them the benefit of the doubt, got another one because man i really love the feel of the dpad, but same thing happened.
@@skinnyd_tk6795 my raions last me a year on average
I bought this controller because I saw you using this in one of your older videos and it’s a great controller
I personally use the Razer Wolverine v2 Chroma, it has a mechanical circular d-pad like the Raion. They recently released a new version, the v3, $100 bucks for a wired pro controller or you could pick up the v2 Chroma for $60 since they are trying to get rid of them.
Switched to leverless and I can electric on the P1 side like a pro. Movement KBD is trickier to learn on leverless but it is worth it! Consistent execution
i've used the commander since release but it finally gave out so on the release of Tekken 8 I bought this controller called the Betop it's super cheaper version Octa with interchangeable D-Pad i'm using the concave D-Pad it's easy to do QC movements
I got this like a month ago based on your recommendation. It's been great!
I just bought the Victrix Pro BFG. The Dpad is really good, and my fingers don’t tire when wavedashing as quick as on the Dualsense
That controller seems very nice but I cannot justify the price for it.. it’s so much money lol
That controller is amazing. It’s a universal controller because of the easy modding. Can use it for any and every game. It’s fantastic for Tekken.
I had no idea you used pad! I also use pad as a Mishima player, I've tried leverless and stick but I can't get the hang of them. I ended up changing the d-pad on my ps5 pad and swapping them out for Battle Beaver ones. It's deffo made a big change in my wavus and electrics :D
Is the Battle Beaver available for Xbox pads?
I know they do custom controllers but I’m not sure if they are available for Xbox pads, I ended up also ordering a custom ps5 controller and they fitted in the battle beaver d-pads for me
I use the hori octa ps5 it has the same face button layout as as razor raion, as well as the pad it’s super comfortable especially if you play Mishimas , both are amazing for wave dash because of the floating dpad (the more you break in the pad the better it feels)
Ps just don’t get the T8 hori version that was is 💩
Thanks for the video. I tried so hard to get HKjr who is another amazing mishima player who uses pad to do a hand cam video of his wavu wavu hut never succeeded. I honestly think that ps4 pad is better than ps5 for Tekken.
The Raion is a really solid pad, however there are 2 revisions of this controller, the first one all have issues with the dpads and overtime will start to misinput some things and will also just come very loose, the second revision fixed these issues but are harder to come by. The first revision of the Raion does last around a solid year and a bit of Mishima only use.
i can confirm, i destroyed my Raion dpad after a year of using heihachi, as you said it becomes really loose.
Can u show your binds pls?😅
I have this pad and the connector for the wire comes loose and I lose connection during matches. Went back to an xbox pad.
I find it difficult to do electrics on P1 side with pad. Any tips?
You probably know this already: just keep practicing. I used to be the opposite, couldn't really do it on P2. I just kept practising and now I'm quite consistent.
Other than that, can't really give more specific tips without having more context unfortunately
A little tip is to hold df when inputting triangle, a lot of people use to release df way before triangle
Trying to buy this pad, kind of a hard find these days
Finally I found another person who uses the middle part of their thumb and not the tip for the d pad XD, I too have a huge swollen bulge at the middle of my thumb lmao
I have three spares of this controller because its easily my favorite as well. Too bad they dont produce them anymore 😢
i think the best controller is the one that feels comfortable in your hands, electrics cause arthritis lol. 8bitdo pads got me going but i kill them every 8 months or so. flydigi vader 3 pro has been holding up.
They have a lifespan of about a month for me before they end up getting smashed because this game fucking sucks
i used to play heihachi (t7/t8) with the razer raion, but i found that i feel A LOT more confortable with a logitech f310. that gamepad's precision makes nosense
I originally thought you're a stick player, I am myself and I'm a devil jin player too.
Lol such perfect timing. As of last week Kazuya has destroyed 2 Xbox controllers in 6 months.
hori octa is my jam
I loved this controller tbh, my dpad on it broke one day and I am unable to find one near me again that I can trust to buy lol. Im playing on octa right now but its not as good tbh
Love all of it's buttons but the D-pad is not ok. It has may misinput issues and no reliable backdash really. The dualsense feels more reliable imo. Also, mine has no pivot. Razer also did not take my refund and basically said F you.
Even till today - i have not found better then Keyboard for Tekken: W,A,S,D and Num-Lock numbers. I have tested everything, except Mix-Box. Stick is painful for your wrist, joy-stick is just not serious - i dont feel in control with PS, Xbox, Octa - whatever pads.
Only keyboard actually feel normal and i only use Fingers and not wrist at all. Its like palying piano ;)
bro in the E-mail gave up on devil jin to play 3 characters that carry him, unbelievable
Can u link mod for wings, old links doesnt work
Im a pad dvj player and people also ask if they can see my thumbs lol but my problem is my player 2 wavedash is ass compared to my player 1
I got a octa then sawed the thumbstick
I'm selling my Raion for 70€ so i can get a flydigi vader 4 pro cause i need a pad for more than just fighting games, and the Vader 4 is literally the raion with more features but no PlayStation licensing (albeit its an asymmetrical thumbstick layout pad)
i'm just saying Momo, i'd love it if you sit down and read the lore of Tekken for the viewers if you ever get free time on your hand
Ты не русский случаем? Такой акцент характерный, знакомый.
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actually surprised you don't use a claw grip for 1234
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mechanic keyboard is the best, see you later guys
membrane keyboard with several anti ghosting keys is the best coz its hella cheap but still do the work
Analog keyboard is best cuz you can set each key to different accusation points
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@@shyguy4617 and how is that beneficial (i dont play tekken, just curious)
@@Akathysia you could probably setup some stuff for some character like I'm sure you could setup perfect electrics with ease if you figure out what button your pressing early or late and adjust