I’ve never really been a fan of rugby but watching these player/referee interactions is fascinating. The level of respect between these guys is incredible for such a physical and intense sport. Especially seeing how athletes in similar intensity sports (soccer, football, hockey) treat their referees, rugby is a breath of fresh air.
" I went through the middle sir!" And that in protest! Someone in the F.A., needs to take a long look at how rugby players respond and treat their referees and take a leaf out of that book and apply it. Starting with the Premier league in the U.K. , Sickening to watch the contempt and disrespect shown to officials there. Borders on violence at times. Rugby appears so much more advanced in this respect.
part of the way rugby has drilled respect in to players and coaches at a young age and the refs don't take any bull from anyone. when I was in rugby (high school and local clubs) you knew at least 2 things that when you address the ref it's always followed with sir and with regard for the ruling when the ref gets it right, they're right /when the ref gets it wrong, they're right
Simple fix for football. Start of a season. Ref, I have made my decision. Argue and I advance the free kick 10 yards. Argue again and you get a yellow. Argue after that you get a red. Managers would be so sick of having to play U21s to fill in their EPL squads for fixtures that by the end of August that they would get in line. Of course it needs a strong FA. So that buggers that idea then.
"Rugby is a Game of Thugs played by Gentlemen. Foorball is a Game of Gentlemen played by Thugs." I don't remember, who said it. But it remains true to this day.
I watched Mikey Adamson play for Glasgow Hawks for many years. He brought a standard of quick, intelligent play to the game that he has clearly carried forward into his refereeing. Would that the standard of refereeing he brings was common in Scotland but it isn't. In fact, although he's only a wee bloke, he stands head and shoulders above his contemporaries.
He is a wonderful referee especially if your English , he was the ref in the Italian , and ran the line against Ireland I think we have a scot on the make , be watching like a hawk
I fully agree with the last comment! Football spoils itself because of lack of respect and lack of discipline. Why don’t they adopt the yellow card as in Rugby - 10 minutes in the sin bin would have an instant and massive effect on the game and encourage players to watch their behaviour. I would also employ this yellow card for disrespect for the ref and if they lose players it will make them think. Also they need to re-examine how they use the VAR - both in terms of the people thy seem to employ to operate it and in terms of the dialogue with the ref. Football has a lot to learn and what is missing is ruining the game!!
In this game how much time did the ref use in stopping the game it took over 2 mins to yellow card blue number 8 ... i do know the match clock stops ...
@@jimmypage1844 and that first started with foreign players coming in, a totally different game...cheating and the younger players followed suit and it hasn’t got any better...
@@More-Space-In-Ear Don’t know about foreign players, but the refs made it their priority to ‘protect’ the technical players and that idea has never been challenged since. So once we don’t enforce the rules, but try to accomodate fragile players, of course that will be exploited.
Rugby a mans game played by big hard men. They play it hard but with the utmost respect for the referee and the decisions he makes. Unlike football which is played by over paid whimps who fall over at the slightest touch and question every decision made by the referee, usually by surrounding him pushing and shoving and screaming is his face. Good job they don’t have yellow sin bin cards for footballers otherwise they’re would only be the referee and linesmen on the field.
I’m not that familiar with rugby rules so I’m confused: Blue #8 was coming off for an injury which I’m guessing knocked him out of the game, so there was a Blue substitution #20 for #8. However, on the same sequence Blue #8 apparently tackled high, a yellow card offense which is a ten-minute sin bin. Blue #8 was injured but had to serve the sin bin and could not be substituted off, so Blue #20 went back to the bench. Why is the substitution (due to injury) not allowed, with Blue #20 serving the ten minutes in the sin bin, since he would be coming in anyway (and Blue team would still be playing one man down for the ten minutes)? Am I making sense?
The substitution for injury was allowed, but because #8 had been sin binned, it meant that the team had to be down a player, thus the substitute player served the time.
I'm not a rugby fan, per se. But I AM a fan of rugby referee's and the players respect for officialdom. Can you rugby fans explain to me please, how many ex-players go on to become referees?
A lot of the time it's not that they've done any major foul, but that simply the team has been committing a lot of minor infringements, especially close to their own goal line. Offside is the main one, because you try to guess when the pass out is coming because so close to your own line you don't have long to react to stop the attacker, and if you jump too soon you get penalised. If there's a major infringement the ref will go straight to a yellow card, but if there isn't, the ref might let a few small infringements like offside go without a yellow card, but if there are too many, he'll tell the captain the team is on warning for giving too many penalties away, so whoever commits the next one is liable to get a yellow card regardless of how major or minor the infringement is. Take the first yellow here, the infringement is relatively minor, but when the ref calls "offside, 10", he knows he's made the mistake, and he knows the team is on warning, so when the card comes he just acknowledges 'my bad' to the team and takes his punishment. The #8 who went off injured, he has hit the guy high, and he knows that that is a punishable offence, if you hit the player in the head with force it's liable to be a red card under current rules; the referee has therefore used mitigation factors to downgrade that to a yellow (no intent to go high, the player he has hit has ducked into contact making it harder to hit him low), so the player carded not only knows that he can expect to be punished, but that the referee has looked upon the hit with a sympathetic viewpoint, while still ensuring that foul play receives punishment, and a fair outcome is had for all. The referee retains the respect of both sides, the team fouled receives a 10 minute man advantage, the team fouling is not penalised for the rest of the game for an avoidable incident.
What rule is the ref referring to when he says 'this man changed his bind onto the ball carrier' at 5:10? I thought as long as he enters the maul legally, and works his way through he is allowed to put an arm onto the ball carrier.
Niele Prior I thought that you had to stay bound to the maul and if you let go of your binding then you have to leave the maul and re join from behind thecrear most foot on your side of the maul. I think that this was the reason for the yellow card being given.
@@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 He has stayed bound with his other arm though. If one arm doesn't count as bound then the ball carrier in every maul is unbinding every time they shift backwards
@@zimmermanjohn3797 He hasn't changed where he is bound with his other arm though. With that arm he has stayed with his initial bind, he just puts the other arm onto the ball carrier.
@@jacquesdelaharpe804 Alternatively... It could be to make sure the opposing team has less points than your team at full time... But I fear describing the same thing in two different ways might be too much for the OP !
Paddypool FC I am a referee. We don’t want to make the game about ourselves. When we stop the match it’s only to ensure the safety and/or fairness of the players and the game. Just btw
@@paddypoolfc3579 but you're looking at less than 10% of the game, and way less 'cos most of it was time stopped... no way you can judge how fussy he was in the match
I’ve seen him reffing a few times, he definitely tends to play the advantage more than blowing the whistle like Clancy. He was developed in 7s so he’s reffing style does advocate for that running rugby but can be more messy and not as strict as Barnes or Luke Pearce. But, I get the point that the montage does make him look a bit whistle happy tho 😅
Rugby a mans game played by big hard men. They play it hard but with the utmost respect for the referee and the decisions he makes. Unlike football which is played by over paid whimps who fall over at the slightest touch and question every decision made by the referee, usually by surrounding him pushing and shoving and screaming is his face. Good job they don’t have yellow sin bin cards for footballers otherwise they’re would only be the referee and linesmen on the field.
I like this ref. The smirk and "It's a warning". Beautiful.
I’ve never really been a fan of rugby but watching these player/referee interactions is fascinating. The level of respect between these guys is incredible for such a physical and intense sport. Especially seeing how athletes in similar intensity sports (soccer, football, hockey) treat their referees, rugby is a breath of fresh air.
Football is a gentlemans game played by thugs, rugby is a thugs game played by gentlemen
Exactly this!
Better than the wimpish football where the players get millions for doing nothing.
" I went through the middle sir!" And that in protest! Someone in the F.A., needs to take a long look at how rugby players respond and treat their referees and take a leaf out of that book and apply it. Starting with the Premier league in the U.K. , Sickening to watch the contempt and disrespect shown to officials there. Borders on violence at times. Rugby appears so much more advanced in this respect.
Not just the players.
Witness Guardiola's discraceful behaviour towards the officials on Sunday.
part of the way rugby has drilled respect in to players and coaches at a young age and the refs don't take any bull from anyone. when I was in rugby (high school and local clubs) you knew at least 2 things that when you address the ref it's always followed with sir and with regard for the ruling when the ref gets it right, they're right /when the ref gets it wrong, they're right
Well said. Responsibility is with FIFA etc - they could put a stop to it if they had balls but prefer to have signs with Respect on it
Simple fix for football. Start of a season. Ref, I have made my decision. Argue and I advance the free kick 10 yards. Argue again and you get a yellow. Argue after that you get a red. Managers would be so sick of having to play U21s to fill in their EPL squads for fixtures that by the end of August that they would get in line.
Of course it needs a strong FA. So that buggers that idea then.
"Rugby is a Game of Thugs played by Gentlemen. Foorball is a Game of Gentlemen played by Thugs." I don't remember, who said it. But it remains true to this day.
I watched Mikey Adamson play for Glasgow Hawks for many years. He brought a standard of quick, intelligent play to the game that he has clearly carried forward into his refereeing. Would that the standard of refereeing he brings was common in Scotland but it isn't. In fact, although he's only a wee bloke, he stands head and shoulders above his contemporaries.
Extraordinarily calm and sympathetic
The collapsing of that maul was absolutely hilarious. Terrific camera work! lol.
He is a wonderful referee especially if your English , he was the ref in the Italian , and ran the line against Ireland I think we have a scot on the make , be watching like a hawk
What do you mean?
Imagine the amount of life changing injuries this man has prevented through his skill and knowledge of the game.
Rugby, a hooligan's game played by gentlemen. Football, a gentleman's game played by hooligans.
One to definitely keep an eye on, doesnt demand respect
This man loves the colour yellow
Does anyone know if there’s a link to this full match? Looks like a good one! 😂
Try UA-cam for it. Or possibly either club office
This is why I enjoy watching rugby and not the disgraceful "game" of football. Oh, and the level of entertainment is better.
I have to agree with you.
Is this during lockdown or is there just no crowd for another reason?
Rugby is a hooligans game, played by gentleman.
Yeah real original
Les sud africains l’adorent 🤣
Depuis sa performance en test match contre les anglais
I fully agree with the last comment! Football spoils itself because of lack of respect and lack of discipline. Why don’t they adopt the yellow card as in Rugby - 10 minutes in the sin bin would have an instant and massive effect on the game and encourage players to watch their behaviour. I would also employ this yellow card for disrespect for the ref and if they lose players it will make them think. Also they need to re-examine how they use the VAR - both in terms of the people thy seem to employ to operate it and in terms of the dialogue with the ref. Football has a lot to learn and what is missing is ruining the game!!
In this game how much time did the ref use in stopping the game it took over 2 mins to yellow card blue number 8 ... i do know the match clock stops ...
This is what is missing in football, respect to the ref.
Part of it, more like the overall spirit that’s gone missing, too much nonsense going on these days.
@@jimmypage1844 and that first started with foreign players coming in, a totally different game...cheating and the younger players followed suit and it hasn’t got any better...
@@More-Space-In-Ear Don’t know about foreign players, but the refs made it their priority to ‘protect’ the technical players and that idea has never been challenged since.
So once we don’t enforce the rules, but try to accomodate fragile players, of course that will be exploited.
Didnt make it to special for the italians today!!
Who is this referee? Seems like a nice one
Read the title.
Rugby a mans game played by big hard men. They play it hard but with the utmost respect for the referee and the decisions he makes. Unlike football which is played by over paid whimps who fall over at the slightest touch and question every decision made by the referee, usually by surrounding him pushing and shoving and screaming is his face. Good job they don’t have yellow sin bin cards for footballers otherwise they’re would only be the referee and linesmen on the field.
I’m not that familiar with rugby rules so I’m confused:
Blue #8 was coming off for an injury which I’m guessing knocked him out of the game, so there was a Blue substitution #20 for #8.
However, on the same sequence Blue #8 apparently tackled high, a yellow card offense which is a ten-minute sin bin. Blue #8 was injured but had to serve the sin bin and could not be substituted off, so Blue #20 went back to the bench.
Why is the substitution (due to injury) not allowed, with Blue #20 serving the ten minutes in the sin bin, since he would be coming in anyway (and Blue team would still be playing one man down for the ten minutes)? Am I making sense?
The substitution for injury was allowed, but because #8 had been sin binned, it meant that the team had to be down a player, thus the substitute player served the time.
#8 just hung out in the sin bin to keep his team mates company.
Let this be a lesson to soccer.....
Scotland 7's ?
I'm not a rugby fan, per se. But I AM a fan of rugby referee's and the players respect for officialdom. Can you rugby fans explain to me please, how many ex-players go on to become referees?
Look up videos of Nigel Owens best ref there is IMO. Really funny too!
Richard Haughton at least is the only English ex-player I know that's now refereeing, seen him do it in 7s but not 15s.
@@Samizouza Karl Dickson
i thought ice hockey players admire referees sometimes but this is level to right side with rugby... well, how about soccer players and referees LOL
Think if you get two yellows it should be a red like footie.
it is
@@andrewjack7484 He only got 10 mins again unless laws have changed since this match.
@@stevemccann4166 two yellows to the same player is a red, just like football.
Haha, I have no clue about what the players did wrong to earn a yellow most of the time, but I love how they accept the decisions.
A lot of the time it's not that they've done any major foul, but that simply the team has been committing a lot of minor infringements, especially close to their own goal line. Offside is the main one, because you try to guess when the pass out is coming because so close to your own line you don't have long to react to stop the attacker, and if you jump too soon you get penalised. If there's a major infringement the ref will go straight to a yellow card, but if there isn't, the ref might let a few small infringements like offside go without a yellow card, but if there are too many, he'll tell the captain the team is on warning for giving too many penalties away, so whoever commits the next one is liable to get a yellow card regardless of how major or minor the infringement is. Take the first yellow here, the infringement is relatively minor, but when the ref calls "offside, 10", he knows he's made the mistake, and he knows the team is on warning, so when the card comes he just acknowledges 'my bad' to the team and takes his punishment.
The #8 who went off injured, he has hit the guy high, and he knows that that is a punishable offence, if you hit the player in the head with force it's liable to be a red card under current rules; the referee has therefore used mitigation factors to downgrade that to a yellow (no intent to go high, the player he has hit has ducked into contact making it harder to hit him low), so the player carded not only knows that he can expect to be punished, but that the referee has looked upon the hit with a sympathetic viewpoint, while still ensuring that foul play receives punishment, and a fair outcome is had for all. The referee retains the respect of both sides, the team fouled receives a 10 minute man advantage, the team fouling is not penalised for the rest of the game for an avoidable incident.
What rule is the ref referring to when he says 'this man changed his bind onto the ball carrier' at 5:10? I thought as long as he enters the maul legally, and works his way through he is allowed to put an arm onto the ball carrier.
Niele Prior I thought that you had to stay bound to the maul and if you let go of your binding then you have to leave the maul and re join from behind thecrear most foot on your side of the maul. I think that this was the reason for the yellow card being given.
@@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 He has stayed bound with his other arm though. If one arm doesn't count as bound then the ball carrier in every maul is unbinding every time they shift backwards
With the reference to swimming, I'm assuming the officials thought he'd come round the edge of the maul rather than through the middle
Niele Prior if you ever let go to change where you are bound to that is seen as leaving the maul and re entering at the side
@@zimmermanjohn3797 He hasn't changed where he is bound with his other arm though. With that arm he has stayed with his initial bind, he just puts the other arm onto the ball carrier.
why are they playing in front of 50 people ?
Football referees are beyond shocking. How do rugby refs manage to get it right and garner respect......the FA should live and learn.....
Because footballers are scumbags with no morals
Good to see Sexton playing pitty we wont see him playing in green with his brother
You dont touch a referree in rugby. I played 10 years rugby.
Thé rest is war..😊
WTF is the object of this game?
the object dear twiddle, is to use google before asking the world to solve your lack of sports knowledge.
The object of the game ? Probably the ball, without it we couldn't play...
Wining. In other words having the most points at full time. Hope you get it
@@jacquesdelaharpe804 Alternatively... It could be to make sure the opposing team has less points than your team at full time...
But I fear describing the same thing in two different ways might be too much for the OP !
Far to fussy. It not about him. Let the lads get on with it.
Paddypool FC I am a referee. We don’t want to make the game about ourselves. When we stop the match it’s only to ensure the safety and/or fairness of the players and the game. Just btw
Totally agree with you. Respect is the epitome of the game. I just feel the referee was way to fussy.
@@paddypoolfc3579 but you're looking at less than 10% of the game, and way less 'cos most of it was time stopped... no way you can judge how fussy he was in the match
True. But my comment was based on what i seen in the video clip.
I’ve seen him reffing a few times, he definitely tends to play the advantage more than blowing the whistle like Clancy. He was developed in 7s so he’s reffing style does advocate for that running rugby but can be more messy and not as strict as Barnes or Luke Pearce. But, I get the point that the montage does make him look a bit whistle happy tho 😅
series of ref errors is all I'm seeing here..eg. no 10 was not offside for a start
Offside line was try line ie hind most foot of his players in the ruck ie he was completely offside and the ref was looking right at him
Errr... Connor?!
Worse ref in the world
Adamson is terrible ref. What is this B.S. ??
Rugby a mans game played by big hard men. They play it hard but with the utmost respect for the referee and the decisions he makes. Unlike football which is played by over paid whimps who fall over at the slightest touch and question every decision made by the referee, usually by surrounding him pushing and shoving and screaming is his face. Good job they don’t have yellow sin bin cards for footballers otherwise they’re would only be the referee and linesmen on the field.