He was a cold-blooded killer. That verdict was a disgrace. And so was the junk food excuse. If binging on twinkies and Big Macs turns someone into a murderer there wouldn't be anyone left on the planet.
mas ele mesmo se impôs a pena que merecia..se matou..que esteja no inferno..o povo fez justiça..pois foi a atitude de não aceitar essa sentença e não deixar que ele voltasse que fez com ele não visse mais sentido da porcaria de vida que teria dali pra frente..sempre seria o assassino do prefeito..justiça foi feita..quem tira a vida dos outros não merece viver.
Curious how people reject mental health issues when its convenient. People in NYC are sent to mental hospitals ALL THE TIME after murder charges. Why is this case different? White got 8 years in prison. 8 years more than lots of others.
That is just a good illustration of what white male entitlement was capable of pulling out of the woodwork when pressed in the late 70's. u could murder a mayor and a supervisor and walk in a few years. just wow.
The verdict was disgusting. He targeted them, shot one and went down the hall to the specific office of the other. He wasn't just shooting into a crowd. He had the state of mind to find his targets. So he obviously was in a clear state of mind.
Diane Fierstein called to him when he passed her door and he said, I have to do something, first as he was headed to Milk's office to murder him. He had just murdered Moscone. He was planned premeditated murder and he planned on killing two more people. He killed himself. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. 🤬
Not to mention, that after they each went down, he bent down, put his gun to their heads and made sure to finish them off. He took his gun, he loaded it with hollowpoints for maximum damage, he went to City Hall and get a maintenance worker to let him in through a basement window, so he could avoid the metal detectors. He then went to the mayors office, got him alone, shot him, then finished him off execution style. Then went past several other offices to get to Milk and repeated it. This was a premeditated, as Ive ever heard of. I have no idea, how any1 could comtemplate for even a second, that this was anything other than a pre-planned, premiditated assassination. And ofc, after he was let out in '84, he talked to his own colleague, who he also had surrendered to and confessed to after the murders, and knowing he could not be tried again, he admitted, that it was premeditated, and that he wanted them both dead and 2 more, he named, who he didnt get the chance for shooting. It is the most outrageous verdict imaginable.
I love how people pretend that there can be two sides when it comes to equality. One side just wants to exist and the other side is literally committed to erasing the other and Dan White was a member of the latter. The fact that cops openly sided with him like they did is more proof that this was significantly more than a case of a guy "snapping" because he was repeatedly emasculated by an "aggressive" gay "agitator" or a snap decision made under duress by a stressed out working man; this was straight up a political assassination like MLK, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton etc etc.
Those jurors made a huge mistake and took away justice from the people of San Francisco. How they could have seen this as someone who just "snapped" is a farce. And then proven it was premeditated years late by the interviewing detective. I hope they have lived with that shame for a long time
Right! The judges should’ve stated that he took out Milk & took justice from the San Francisco people that would’ve impeached & indicted Milk & his group for embezzlement, fraud, bribery & corruption
VICIOUS, VIRULENT HOMOPHOBIA, STEEPS JUST BELOW THE SURFACE IN TODAY'S POLITE SOCIETY UNTIL SOMEONE LIKE TRUMP BRINGS IT OUT IN FULL KILL FORCE WITH HIS RACIST SEXIST WHITE POWER TROOPERS
Terrible verdict. I dont think that would ever happen today. For some reason, back in those days and previous, your average person couldnt believe that a seemingly normal and good person, could possibly commit haneous crimes. I studied the Jeffrey MacDonald case a lot, and most of his supporters and defense, was that a man who was a doctor, and All American boy, just couldnt do the evil things he was charged with. I think sadly, society has become numb to violence these days. We have seen outwardly nice and good people commit acts of evil over and over again, to the point that ANY person, from any side of the train tracks, are capable of doing them.
He had a knack for the quick rebuttal. Somebody suggested he get a less showy automobile…his reply…MY BODY WOULD R EJ E C T …whatever the suggested economy vehicle was. Even when you wanted to smack him you’d remember his punchline.
I am a native New York City , and that was cold bloody murder . That as cold cold cold , as it can be . The killer shot him 4 in the back, 2 in the head , and than , reloaded . Were did they get this jury . There was 2 assassinations , the killer and the jury . And as junk food being the cause of the killers actions , that don't work for us , Puerto Ricans .and we eat a lot of junk food .
This would of never flew in NYC; you kill a mayor you’re out forever. He was so progressive he obviously had people against the change they were making.
Its so weird being a child of the 70's revisiting news like this as an adult, it truly puts current times into perspective. I wonder what the police union said to him to flip DW into such a fear state to demand his role back, and deem murder as a way out?...
The story was this with Dan White: he was married to a former Catholic nun and had an extremely small child or two. I know he went on to have more children with his wife while incarcerated but not sure how many then. He had also just opened a baked potato place called One Potato Two at Pier 39 in San Francisco. Pier 39 was being developed then and the site was new and shiny as a tourist extension of Fisherman’s Wharf and a move away from working piers. One Potato Two served loaded baked potatoes that could be customized with a variety of toppings- that was a trend of the time and pretty novel. Not a full blown restaurant. Not sure if they offered inside seating as I never went and not sure if they offered fries along with fountain drinks. It was mainly a to go place and people walked around the Pier munching on hot potatoes . The pressures of the business and growing family weighed heavily upon him. He had only just been elected to the Board of Supervisors and was a political novice having never been an elected official before. Dan Whites’s candidacy came about because of a change in how supervisors were elected. Previously to his run, supervisors were elected by a citywide vote. The top so many vote getters represented everyone citywide. There was election reform that provided that each neighborhood was represented by someone who lived there as opposed to the elites who ruled the hood. The district that White represented was working class Italian Catholics, poor blacks who lived in public housing and a smattering of hispanic and Pacific Islanders. He had no political finese and he was unprepared to deal with the backstabbing front stabbing that he felt he was subjected to. He would never have been elected had he been made to run citywide. He was the biggest fish in his tiny piece of pond that but for the change of election tules, he would not have had. He invited Moscone and Milk to the baptism of his baby and they came. He felt a kinship and they put in an appearance. He eventually resigned from the board and regretted that decision. He appealed to Moscone and Milk and they refused to give him back his seat. The rest is history. He was unhinged. He felt betrayed. He was under stress because his family thought he was the man and failure was fatal. Unbelievable times Sorry for the novel- just that I was there at the time and he was my supervisor.
@MaurytheHedgehogDog Your'e right about the "backstabbing and frontstabbing" in our city politics... and groin kicking! I been subject to it recently. What people won't do for money and power here. My good friend and native San Franciscan said that she read somewhere that the trend in favoritism for young wealthy Asians and Caucasians is "normal" and that we shouldn't be upset about the change, because San Francisco is always changing and now it's our turn to on the outs. If I could afford to leave I would. Twenty five years seems to me is what you get here as a young person. After you better get ready for another change, or the city will drive you crazy.
White climbed through a window to avoid the metal detectors, he brought with him extra bullets so he could reload, just a disgrace. The jury did not see the 2 victims as human, again just a disgrace.
Thank you for a thorough and excellent account of the events surrounding Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milks assassinations. Although it was a difficult watch as it brought back so many memories of that time and what was to follow.
I remember that day so well. I had a job in the East Bay and heard the news from a co worker. I called the city desk at the Chronicle…because the story was so unbelievable. I do not remember the rest of the day.
This story is so sad.... Never heard about it until recently..... Moscone and Milk seem like good decent people who were all about inclusion and human rights. So sorry they were assassinated because of it. Seems like there is still so much fear and anger and division now.... Such a shame. RIP to the victims.
@@sirushay4398 he had one underage lover for sure. It was consensual in the way that statutory offenses can be consensual and still illegal. Not sure if the sodomy laws were in full force then but Gov Jerry Brown, a former Jesuit, did repeal the law sometime around then.
OMG! Such a weak minded “man”. He conveniently forgot that he himself resigned his position. No one took it away from him, but him. Well, two cold-blooded murders will certainly get you reappointed! What a nut job!!!
I wonder how many more years he'd get, had he murdered Willy Brown and Carroll Ruth Silver like he confessed later on to his friend the police detective.
I'm still in shock that I was not aware of any of this happening. Yes, I was only about 7 or 8 years old but I lived within about 20 minutes of the Castro and the Civic Center area and my mom worked right off Market Street and California and she didn't know any of this was going on
This one guy said it all and its true to this day, its always the GOOD guys that face the wrath of hatred in this country. Those dedicated to making things better......Pelosi's husband, Gabby G, Kennedy, etc, while the true haters roam the planet scott free and I won't mention any names....but we all know who I'm talking about!!
I became aware of this whole tragedy while looking for a good documentary to watch on HBO..a few months ago...and even though I was alive in the 70s, I was probably too young and far removed from the political landscape of our nation...and I don't remember my parents or any adults mentioning this around dinner table conversation or my teachers at school..yet at the age if 54 , I now profoundly felt the impact of the murders of both George and Harvey...I really think George was an incredible politician, and man..of the kind all too rare in today's politics..as well Harvey too was an incredible force for the good of people...both lives being cut short in a vicious act of rage, and jealousy, and fear. . But what is left in my mind..I see the the great smiles on the faces of these two men..showing pride and victory over the great battles they fought and won..
"Documentary"??? seriously? Just the facts or a one-sided mind meld trying to promote one view at the exclusion of another? A documentary on HBO? That's funny.
..I wasn't even alive then, was born in 1986. ..and I'm not even American, I'm Canadian, live in Montreal. And yet even I know about this! LOL .. albeit thanks to Sean Penn and James Franco! hehe
Harvey Milk and George Moscone would not be too happy with what's happening in San Francisco right now with the homelessness and overdosing facing the city. Hopefully the Golden Gate will come back bigger and better than ever. It has before, it will again. Most importantly, hatred and prejudice must never win.
Moscow/Milk liberals were big pieces in the 40-50 decline that led to 3 fatal overdoses per day in San Francisco 2023 Also ironic are the Moscone funeral scenes. The left, particularly in San Francisco, hates Catholicism with every fiber of their being
Both men to this day, should still be in prison, never to get out. But we live by the jury system and a lot of ppl get off when you have juries that don't take thier jobs seriously, but allowing emotions, not the facts to get the way of justice. Dan killed himself and OJ is still walking around thinking he's innocent....but the wrath of God's justice, still awaits him. I'm surprised neither of his kids have come out with a book???
same ole whyte grievences 35 years later. he was actually being replaced and choose violence instead of just stepping aside. after he resigned at that. and the privilege of only doing 5 years for 2 premeditated murders.
"I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health." - Charles Barron
That was a pretty crucial element they left out of the film milk! Had no clue Dan White and Harvey had been friends and I've seen about three Harvey Milk documentaries in addition to the film
I remember when this happened. I was 11 years old , living in AL. Then Jonestown happened the following week. Thank you for uploading this documentary.
That was a tumultuous era. I lived in S.F. in the late ‘60s-70’s. The V. war. Manson murders, this tragedy, Zodiac murders, Watergate, AIDS, Jonestown, militant groups, . . .
I saw 'The Life and Times of Harvey Milk' documentary when it came to the movie theater in 1985. It was so beautiful in it sorrowful and respectful elegy of the subject that I felt it was the final word on the man. While Sean Penn is a protean actor, the Milk shown on widescreen in 1985 needed no cinematic replication whatsoever.
We mourn the recent death of Senator Diane Feinstein who was the oldest female in Congress' It is fact that Feinstein, when she was still a San Francisco City Supervisor found Supervisor Harvey Milk's body. She also was the one who announced the deaths of Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Milk. She eventually became Mayor of SF and then the rest is history.
Mayor Feinstein kneeling and praying at Moscone's Catholic Church funeral. Kneeling and praying is a very important part of Catholic prayer and I thought she was Jewish. RIP Diane.
It’s so sad that all this happened. But, Dianne Feinstein handled that moment absolutely professionally. Then she served the City and County of San Francisco (one and the same ) as its mayor for several terms, and then as US Senator for the state of California for 30+ years. Then as now, I am in California, and I am very proud to have had her as my US Senator. It looks like she is going to retire and not run for reelection in 2024. I hope she will get a few years of a well-deserved retirement. Can’t believe that she will be 90 this year! I’ve often wondered if she would have had a similar career trajectory had these events not happened. She had actually previously been an unsuccessful candidate for mayor of San Francisco. Also, she was the Democratic Party nominee for governor of California in 1990. She was the sitting Mayor of San Francisco at the time. But, she lost the 1990 general election for governor to the Republican nominee, then US Senator, Pete Wilson. When Pete Wilson became governor, he appointed a California state legislator, John Seymour (Republican) to replace him in the U.S. Senate. In 1992, mayor Feinstein became US senator by defeating Senator Seymour in a special election. Thank you to the person who posted a thumbs up on my earlier, comment about this, but I thought I would expand it a little!
Dawgy; she’s been a zombie for like at least 15 years. Check her trading portfolio. Granted, she handled this particular moment. I’ve lived here my whole life and I believe I have voted for this atrocity. But she sells areas like my part of CA out to rep SF, LA, SD, Sac. It forgets why it runs and her absenteeism is just as much of threat on democracy as _______ party is. If you were honest you’d be embarrassed to be “proud” of this lady. Like I really don’t understand how we worship politicians. They’re human. Many are very fallible. - Fallible person
Always found Feinstein to be self serving and wanting any publicity she could get. I may be wrong, but it seemed much the same back in 1978 when this tragic event happened. Shes reaffirming my opinion now, as well. Clearly she should do the unselfish thing, and step down from the Senate. She hasnt, and thats selfish to me.
@@chocolatetownforever7537 a lot of politicians are self serving. I think both sides are delusional thinking it’s a partisan issue. Diane is just one of many geriatrics running a show that impacts ALL of us; only ever self serving.
Two words - term limits. No one should be in politics that long. 90 years old? Come on, there’s something seriously wrong with that. Reminds me of another man who can’t stop soiling his pants, constantly takes vacations while his country suffers, is VERY self serving and corrupt, never tells the truth…anyways, “no comment” (followed by shiteating grin)
Imagine if Harvey Milk became Mayor of San Francisco had he not been assassinated. I think he would've been a game changer for the city, as well as for the nation.
Great post. I love watching historical stuff like this. Despicable how he was allowed to get such a light sentence with what was really a planned double assassination. A depressive Twinkie defense. Ridiculous!
The movie made it appear as though Milk was targeted at least partly because of his sexuality. Such a disservice to the real story: a story of vial revenge against a perceived political back-stabbing. Hollywood agenda ruins everything.
I remember this story so well (even though I have never been to S.F.). So sad. I don't know what to think of White, though. Did he just snap from the pressure? Was he evil? He brought a gun, so we know it was somewhat premeditated. Well, fortunately God will judge him appropriately.
This is what serving other's is all about Senator Feinstein Served The People of San Francisco so from across The Bay from your Sister City of Oakland thank you Dianne Feinstein.
I always wondered how Diane Feinsteinbergrosenstein and Nancy, who didn’t make a lot of money, lived the lives of Apple and Intel CEO’s. Didn’t add up. They both made government salaries. I did research. Both those broads husbands greatly, greatly benefited from their connections to get extremely wealthy. It’s of course illegal but good luck prosecuting people like that. Grossly corrupt politicians. Sickening. That drunk loser husband of Nancy damn near killed a person walking on the sidewalk when he was drunk driving his Porsche. Diane and Nancy are both corrupt pigs. I wish Nancy would hurry up and join Diane in Hell. Peace. ✌️
She helped ruin California and prospered personally. That's not serving anyone but yourself. California would be better if she and slick Willie Brown had never come to power. Look at San Francisco now 😳
Harvey Milk was right. Coming out is important and incredibly powerful. When other people know they have someone they admire or love who is LGBTQ+, it changes their opinions and support.
I totally blame the jurors for the events following their decision. As a juror you are.responsible to all not just who you feel more attuned He showed premeditation.and should have gotten life no parole. Perhaps they should think of the cries of the victims next time.
I just watched this bio last night and incredible the injustice these two souls recieved back then. The thought of a sugar products vs an intitled white man losing his IT was the reason for the murders, just incredible. What is even more incredible, Diane is still in the Senate.....folks we gotta start looking for a future for our democrats....these old folk, have got to go
I'm not sure if your comment is suggesting that it was sugar (which is just ignorant) or if you think it was partly because he was white (which is racist) and lost his job? Either way your judgement is really strange to me.
48:37 They keep showing this window through which Dan White climbed to avoid the City Hall metal detectors at the entrance. I'm guessing the window was not barred like this on the day of the assassinations, or else White couldn't have got in. Am I right?
All of those people/ gatekeepers should be ashamed of themselves. But you see they have no shame. 107 years old and you still running for office. Crazy. Strom Thurmond how old was that lizard? And was doing nothing for the country.
This was a very well done documentary, more so than most of the biased ones done today. Dan White, trapped in his own mind with the conviction that there was no way out of his circumstances. Sad for all.
If it wasn’t for cult leader Jim Jones, Mayor Moscone, Milk, Feinstein, Willie Brown probably wouldn’t have been elected to their political positions. All four preached social justice and Jones’s Peoples Temple preached social justice. Jones supported them financially and on Election Day bused his followers to the voting booths.
At least someone remembers the San Francisco cesspool known as City Hall from the 1970s. The People's Temple, and Jones', influence was quite evident in those days. These politicians never inquired about the People's Temple, even though the rumors of the abuse (physical, emotional, and financial) where known through the offices of City Hall. These politicians knew that one phone call to Jim Jones guaranteed hundreds of people at a rally, or handing out pamphlets, or votes for them. Moscone, Milk, Feinstein, and Brown all supported Jones and his ideas, but became mute and hiding when the suicidal massacre had occurred.
This documentary film is fairly complete, but it downplays the tension between the police and the LGBTQ+ community at the time. Many S.F. policemen were sympathetic to Dan White (a former cop), and when he was taken into custody after the murders of Moscone and Milk, some reportedly “nodded their approval” in his direction, and a few even patted him on the back, as if to say “Good job!” After the White Night riot at City Hall, the retaliatory attack by policemen (who had reportedly removed their name tags and badges, so that they could not be identified) on the Elephant Walk bar on Castro Street was extremely violent, with cops smashing property and customer’s heads in all directions. It was just good luck that no-one was actually killed. Google “white night riot elephant walk” to see some reports on this event.
He was a cold-blooded killer. That verdict was a disgrace. And so was the junk food excuse. If binging on twinkies and Big Macs turns someone into a murderer there wouldn't be anyone left on the planet.
Maybe it was the same people from that OJ jury.
Especially in America. Twinkies and Big Macs are the preferred diet over there for 86% of the population.
This was such a waste of two wonderful people. The jerk that shot him was too lightly punished.
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mas ele mesmo se impôs a pena que merecia..se matou..que esteja no inferno..o povo fez justiça..pois foi a atitude de não aceitar essa sentença e não deixar que ele voltasse que fez com ele não visse mais sentido da porcaria de vida que teria dali pra frente..sempre seria o assassino do prefeito..justiça foi feita..quem tira a vida dos outros não merece viver.
I used to eat all of that when I was a child I never thought of murder or hurting people! What BS
Curious how people reject mental health issues when its convenient. People in NYC are sent to mental hospitals ALL THE TIME after murder charges. Why is this case different? White got 8 years in prison. 8 years more than lots of others.
Best Comment Award!
We would have all killed our parents because of what we ate after-school Mondays through Fridays
That is just a good illustration of what white male entitlement was capable of pulling out of the woodwork when pressed in the late 70's. u could murder a mayor and a supervisor and walk in a few years. just wow.
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The verdict was disgusting.
He targeted them, shot one and went down the hall to the specific office of the other.
He wasn't just shooting into a crowd. He had the state of mind to find his targets. So he obviously was in a clear state of mind.
Diane Fierstein called to him when he passed her door and he said, I have to do something, first as he was headed to Milk's office to murder him. He had just murdered Moscone. He was planned premeditated murder and he planned on killing two more people. He killed himself. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. 🤬
Not to mention, that after they each went down, he bent down, put his gun to their heads and made sure to finish them off.
He took his gun, he loaded it with hollowpoints for maximum damage, he went to City Hall and get a maintenance worker to let him in through a basement window, so he could avoid the metal detectors. He then went to the mayors office, got him alone, shot him, then finished him off execution style. Then went past several other offices to get to Milk and repeated it. This was a premeditated, as Ive ever heard of. I have no idea, how any1 could comtemplate for even a second, that this was anything other than a pre-planned, premiditated assassination.
And ofc, after he was let out in '84, he talked to his own colleague, who he also had surrendered to and confessed to after the murders, and knowing he could not be tried again, he admitted, that it was premeditated, and that he wanted them both dead and 2 more, he named, who he didnt get the chance for shooting.
It is the most outrageous verdict imaginable.
Now do all the Soros prosecutors that Moscone and Milk would have supported
What can you do about it? Stop whining small deranged alphabet being filled with hate
I love how people pretend that there can be two sides when it comes to equality. One side just wants to exist and the other side is literally committed to erasing the other and Dan White was a member of the latter. The fact that cops openly sided with him like they did is more proof that this was significantly more than a case of a guy "snapping" because he was repeatedly emasculated by an "aggressive" gay "agitator" or a snap decision made under duress by a stressed out working man; this was straight up a political assassination like MLK, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton etc etc.
Using junk food as a defense for murder? More then half the country would be killers if that was the case.
Yup.
Especially a certain orange tinted character.
Those jurors made a huge mistake and took away justice from the people of San Francisco. How they could have seen this as someone who just "snapped" is a farce. And then proven it was premeditated years late by the interviewing detective.
I hope they have lived with that shame for a long time
Let’s not forget Milk was a pedophile.
Agreed. This is as premeditated first degree murder as it gets. What a joke.
Right! The judges should’ve stated that he took out Milk & took justice from the San Francisco people that would’ve impeached & indicted Milk & his group for embezzlement, fraud, bribery & corruption
VICIOUS, VIRULENT HOMOPHOBIA, STEEPS JUST BELOW THE SURFACE IN TODAY'S POLITE SOCIETY UNTIL SOMEONE LIKE TRUMP BRINGS IT OUT IN FULL KILL FORCE WITH HIS RACIST SEXIST WHITE POWER TROOPERS
Did you attend the trial? Or are you basing your statements upon watching a feel good story?
4 years for 2 murders? Wow
Sounds very progressive, doesn't it?
7 but he only served 5!!!
Terrible verdict. I dont think that would ever happen today. For some reason, back in those days and previous, your average person couldnt believe that a seemingly normal and good person, could possibly commit haneous crimes. I studied the Jeffrey MacDonald case a lot, and most of his supporters and defense, was that a man who was a doctor, and All American boy, just couldnt do the evil things he was charged with.
I think sadly, society has become numb to violence these days. We have seen outwardly nice and good people commit acts of evil over and over again, to the point that ANY person, from any side of the train tracks, are capable of doing them.
RIP
George Moscone
(1929-1978)
and
Harvey Milk
(1930-1978)
Seeing this again, I realized Willie Brown is the last one still alive from a lively era in the City which was full of arts, culture and fun!
As Coach Walsh called it
"Camelot"
He had a knack for the quick rebuttal. Somebody suggested he get a less showy automobile…his reply…MY BODY WOULD R EJ E C T …whatever the suggested economy vehicle was.
Even when you wanted to smack him you’d remember his punchline.
Moscone, Milk, Brown and their ilk destroyed that city, it is now a shithole.
I am a native New York City , and that was cold bloody murder . That as cold cold cold , as it can be . The killer shot him 4 in the back, 2 in the head , and than , reloaded . Were did they get this jury . There was 2 assassinations , the killer and the jury . And as junk food being the cause of the killers actions , that don't work for us , Puerto Ricans .and we eat a lot of junk food .
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@@skyjuiceification" stop rereading " because it don't help you at all .
This would of never flew in NYC; you kill a mayor you’re out forever. He was so progressive he obviously had people against the change they were making.
Its so weird being a child of the 70's revisiting news like this as an adult, it truly puts current times into perspective.
I wonder what the police union said to him to flip DW into such a fear state to demand his role back, and deem murder as a way out?...
The story was this with Dan White: he was married to a former Catholic nun and had an extremely small child or two. I know he went on to have more children with his wife while incarcerated but not sure how many then.
He had also just opened a baked potato place called One Potato Two at Pier 39 in San Francisco. Pier 39 was being developed then and the site was new and shiny as a tourist extension of Fisherman’s Wharf and a move away from working piers.
One Potato Two served loaded baked potatoes that could be customized with a variety of toppings- that was a trend of the time and pretty novel. Not a full blown restaurant. Not sure if they offered inside seating as I never went and not sure if they offered fries along with fountain drinks. It was mainly a to go place and people walked around the Pier munching on hot potatoes .
The pressures of the business and growing family weighed heavily upon him. He had only just been elected to the Board of Supervisors and was a political novice having never been an elected official before.
Dan Whites’s candidacy came about because of a change in how supervisors were elected.
Previously to his run, supervisors were elected by a citywide vote. The top so many vote getters represented everyone citywide. There was election reform that provided that each neighborhood was represented by someone who lived there as opposed to the elites who ruled the hood.
The district that White represented was working class Italian Catholics, poor blacks who lived in public housing and a smattering of hispanic and Pacific Islanders. He had no political finese and he was unprepared to deal with the backstabbing front stabbing that he felt he was subjected to. He would never have been elected had he been made to run citywide. He was the biggest fish in his tiny piece of pond that but for the change of election tules, he would not have had.
He invited Moscone and Milk to the baptism of his baby and they came. He felt a kinship and they put in an appearance.
He eventually resigned from the board and regretted that decision.
He appealed to Moscone and Milk and they refused to give him back his seat.
The rest is history.
He was unhinged. He felt betrayed. He was under stress because his family thought he was the man and failure was fatal.
Unbelievable times
Sorry for the novel- just that I was there at the time and he was my supervisor.
@@MaurytheHedgehogDogW white L moscone and milk
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Your'e right about the "backstabbing and frontstabbing" in our city politics... and groin kicking!
I been subject to it recently. What people won't do for money and power here.
My good friend and native San Franciscan said that she read somewhere that the trend in favoritism for young wealthy Asians and Caucasians is "normal" and that we shouldn't be upset about the change, because San Francisco is always changing and now it's our turn to on the outs.
If I could afford to leave I would.
Twenty five years seems to me is what you get here as a young person. After you better get ready for another change, or the city will drive you crazy.
White climbed through a window to avoid the metal detectors, he brought with him extra bullets so he could reload, just a disgrace. The jury did not see the 2 victims as human, again just a disgrace.
Must be nice to have a defence of junk food smfh
Thank you for a thorough and excellent account of the events surrounding Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milks assassinations. Although it was a difficult watch as it brought back so many memories of that time and what was to follow.
I remember that day so well. I had a job in the East Bay and heard the news from a co worker. I called the city desk at the Chronicle…because the story was so unbelievable. I do not remember the rest of the day.
This story is so sad.... Never heard about it until recently..... Moscone and Milk seem like good decent people who were all about inclusion and human rights. So sorry they were assassinated because of it. Seems like there is still so much fear and anger and division now.... Such a shame. RIP to the victims.
That just shows you don't even know who Milk was. Look up the horror stories about him and children.
@@ragnarlothbrok4281Why horror stories?
🤡🤡🤡🤡 They were essential stepping stones to the current squalor in San Francisco
@@sirushay4398 he had one underage lover for sure. It was consensual in the way that statutory offenses can be consensual and still illegal.
Not sure if the sodomy laws were in full force then but Gov Jerry Brown, a former Jesuit, did repeal the law sometime around then.
@@MaurytheHedgehogDog Jesuits love boys
OMG! Such a weak minded “man”. He conveniently forgot that he himself resigned his position. No one took it away from him, but him. Well, two cold-blooded murders will certainly get you reappointed! What a nut job!!!
I wonder how many more years he'd get, had he murdered Willy Brown and Carroll Ruth Silver like he confessed later on to his friend the police detective.
He would've still gotten off.
Many of my high school contemporaries believed that it was a planned coup, and it included the verdict.
I'm still in shock that I was not aware of any of this happening. Yes, I was only about 7 or 8 years old but I lived within about 20 minutes of the Castro and the Civic Center area and my mom worked right off Market Street and California and she didn't know any of this was going on
Moscone and Milk represented the liberalism desperately needed today. Inclusion = Harmony and Freedom for ALL. 🕊
This one guy said it all and its true to this day, its always the GOOD guys that face the wrath of hatred in this country. Those dedicated to making things better......Pelosi's husband, Gabby G, Kennedy, etc, while the true haters roam the planet scott free and I won't mention any names....but we all know who I'm talking about!!
yup cause ca is doing so well after turning blue.
@@ChickenPermissionOG All republicans are terrorists
@@ChickenPermissionOGHow's Alabama doing?
What a wingnut. Liberalism is EXclusive, INtolerant, totalitarian, and violent
I wish somebody ask the judge and jury later have you erred? What was their motivation and inclinations, has it served anyone?
Excellent documentary 💯
As someone who loves politics and being from Chicago, now in the Bay. Knowing the history of your city is the most important if living !!!
I became aware of this whole tragedy while looking for a good documentary to watch on HBO..a few months ago...and even though I was alive in the 70s, I was probably too young and far removed from the political landscape of our nation...and I don't remember my parents or any adults mentioning this around dinner table conversation or my teachers at school..yet at the age if 54 , I now profoundly felt the impact of the murders of both George and Harvey...I really think George was an incredible politician, and man..of the kind all too rare in today's politics..as well Harvey too was an incredible force for the good of people...both lives being cut short in a vicious act of rage, and jealousy, and fear. . But what is left in my mind..I see the the great smiles on the faces of these two men..showing pride and victory over the great battles they fought and won..
"Documentary"??? seriously? Just the facts or a one-sided mind meld trying to promote one view at the exclusion of another? A documentary on HBO? That's funny.
..I wasn't even alive then, was born in 1986. ..and I'm not even American, I'm Canadian, live in Montreal. And yet even I know about this! LOL
.. albeit thanks to Sean Penn and James Franco! hehe
@@putnamcountycrimeanalysiswandrwhat are you talking about?..did I upset your sensibilities?..you'll be strong!
Anyone else here after hearing the sad news about Senator Dianne Feinstein?
Rest in power Moscone, Milk and Feinstein 🕊️🕊️🕊️
You’ll never learn
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May Feinstein burn in hell, as I’m sure Milk and Marcone will as well.
Need many more worhwhile politicians!
Harvey Milk and George Moscone would not be too happy with what's happening in San Francisco right now with the homelessness and overdosing facing the city. Hopefully the Golden Gate will come back bigger and better than ever. It has before, it will again.
Most importantly, hatred and prejudice must never win.
Its sad that this happened it shouldnt have.
My grandmother was a persinal friend of George Moscone. I remember her reaction when he was killed. We all got a day off of school in memoriam.
This is so sad. May they rest in peace.
so well done. THIS was a San Francisco to love! a tragedy for SF and the families. Proud to be a Moscone/Milk liberal.
Moscow/Milk liberals were big pieces in the 40-50 decline that led to 3 fatal overdoses per day in San Francisco 2023
Also ironic are the Moscone funeral scenes. The left, particularly in San Francisco, hates Catholicism with every fiber of their being
Worst Jury, but OJ did the same thing.
Both men to this day, should still be in prison, never to get out. But we live by the jury system and a lot of ppl get off when you have juries that don't take thier jobs seriously, but allowing emotions, not the facts to get the way of justice. Dan killed himself and OJ is still walking around thinking he's innocent....but the wrath of God's justice, still awaits him. I'm surprised neither of his kids have come out with a book???
What does OJ have to do with this?!!
Wrong. O.J. "never" admitted to murder.
Does anyone know if Dan White's widow is still alive? I've searched for info on the internet and can't find anything.
same ole whyte grievences 35 years later. he was actually being replaced and choose violence instead of just stepping aside. after he resigned at that. and the privilege of only doing 5 years for 2 premeditated murders.
"Why can't we all just get along?"
Rodney King
"I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health." - Charles Barron
@@braylonmaverick2617That there!😂
I was only a child but Feinstein announcing the murder of Moscone and Milk is as indelible as 9-11. RIP Ms. Feinstein.
I was only 8 years old when Mayor Mascone and Supervisor Milk was assassinated.
As indelible as 9/11?
LOL....wow.
Yup.
Maury Povich host of AM San Francisco at the 19:00 mark!!
That was a pretty crucial element they left out of the film milk! Had no clue Dan White and Harvey had been friends and I've seen about three Harvey Milk documentaries in addition to the film
I remember when this happened. I was 11 years old , living in AL. Then Jonestown happened the following week. Thank you for uploading this documentary.
I am 81,loving in Queretaro since 2021. and this was wrong
Kamala and Brown.
Actually, I believe Jonestown happened on the 18th of November, and the assassinations happened on the 27th.
That was a tumultuous era. I lived in S.F. in the late ‘60s-70’s. The V. war. Manson murders, this tragedy, Zodiac murders, Watergate, AIDS, Jonestown, militant groups, . . .
@@MB-vu3ow Yup.
I saw 'The Life and Times of Harvey Milk' documentary when it came to the movie theater in 1985. It was so beautiful in it sorrowful and respectful elegy of the subject that I felt it was the final word on the man. While Sean Penn is a protean actor, the Milk shown on widescreen in 1985 needed no cinematic replication whatsoever.
"San Francisco has become a collecting place of every crazy in the world..."
Still true today.
We mourn the recent death of Senator Diane Feinstein who was the oldest female in Congress' It is fact that Feinstein, when she was still a San Francisco City Supervisor found Supervisor Harvey Milk's body. She also was the one who announced the deaths of Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Milk. She eventually became Mayor of SF and then the rest is history.
I remember Mayor Moscone and supervisor Milk when they were killed the verdict was discusting
Mayor Feinstein kneeling and praying at Moscone's Catholic Church funeral. Kneeling and praying is a very important part of Catholic prayer and I thought she was Jewish. RIP Diane.
Heaven help us if there is a requirement for who may kneel to pray.
@@liannebedard5521 Kneeling is showing respect to God.
…and to the memory of her murdered Catholic colleague. She was Jewish, but had attended a Catholic girls’ school.
It’s so sad that all this happened. But, Dianne Feinstein handled that moment absolutely professionally. Then she served the City and County of San Francisco (one and the same ) as its mayor for several terms, and then as US Senator for the state of California for 30+ years. Then as now, I am in California, and I am very proud to have had her as my US Senator. It looks like she is going to retire and not run for reelection in 2024. I hope she will get a few years of a well-deserved retirement. Can’t believe that she will be 90 this year!
I’ve often wondered if she would have had a similar career trajectory had these events not happened. She had actually previously been an unsuccessful candidate for mayor of San Francisco. Also, she was the Democratic Party nominee for governor of California in 1990. She was the sitting Mayor of San Francisco at the time. But, she lost the 1990 general election for governor to the Republican nominee, then US Senator, Pete Wilson. When Pete Wilson became governor, he appointed a California state legislator, John Seymour (Republican) to replace him in the U.S. Senate. In 1992, mayor Feinstein became US senator by defeating Senator Seymour in a special election.
Thank you to the person who posted a thumbs up on my earlier, comment about this, but I thought I would expand it a little!
Dawgy; she’s been a zombie for like at least 15 years. Check her trading portfolio. Granted, she handled this particular moment. I’ve lived here my whole life and I believe I have voted for this atrocity. But she sells areas like my part of CA out to rep SF, LA, SD, Sac. It forgets why it runs and her absenteeism is just as much of threat on democracy as _______ party is. If you were honest you’d be embarrassed to be “proud” of this lady. Like I really don’t understand how we worship politicians. They’re human. Many are very fallible.
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Fallible person
Always found Feinstein to be self serving and wanting any publicity she could get.
I may be wrong, but it seemed much the same back in 1978 when this tragic event happened.
Shes reaffirming my opinion now, as well. Clearly she should do the unselfish thing, and step down from the Senate. She hasnt, and thats selfish to me.
@@chocolatetownforever7537 a lot of politicians are self serving. I think both sides are delusional thinking it’s a partisan issue. Diane is just one of many geriatrics running a show that impacts ALL of us; only ever self serving.
Two words - term limits. No one should be in politics that long. 90 years old? Come on, there’s something seriously wrong with that. Reminds me of another man who can’t stop soiling his pants, constantly takes vacations while his country suffers, is VERY self serving and corrupt, never tells the truth…anyways, “no comment” (followed by shiteating grin)
@@ajhproductions2347 Mitch McConnell and Feinstein one and the same. Just different sides of coin. Still sharing their barebacks aren’t they?
Gay rights not LGBTQ
I remember this. And the shocking verdict for the murderer, Dan White.
Imagine if Harvey Milk became Mayor of San Francisco had he not been assassinated. I think he would've been a game changer for the city, as well as for the nation.
I don't think he would've beaten Moscone.
Moscone for two or three terms, followed by Agnos.
Tucker Carlson had admired dan white. Enough said.
Hello and good day to you ladies and gentlemen watching this video
Dan White implied that it was spontaneous, but being armed, and with extra bullets, then climbing through the window... Obvious premeditated...
Dan White was used to quitting jobs; this was the first time his quitting affected more people. He was out of his depth in politics.
Great post. I love watching historical stuff like this. Despicable how he was allowed to get such a light sentence with what was really a planned double assassination. A depressive Twinkie defense. Ridiculous!
The movie made it appear as though Milk was targeted at least partly because of his sexuality. Such a disservice to the real story: a story of vial revenge against a perceived political back-stabbing. Hollywood agenda ruins everything.
I remember this story so well (even though I have never been to S.F.). So sad. I don't know what to think of White, though. Did he just snap from the pressure? Was he evil? He brought a gun, so we know it was somewhat premeditated. Well, fortunately God will judge him appropriately.
I feel like nobody would have cared if a movie wasn't made.
Sad moment for Dan White. Mayor Feinstein aged beautifully over the years she looks just as she did in the 70's ❤ RIP Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk
Yeah, this one always made me shake my head.. Everything about it..
Maybe the worst moment in San Francisco history other than the 1906 earthquake.
Jonestown
Wow
So killings in the innercity can be partly to blame on the high sugar diet that is consumed within that community
46 years ago
That rendition of swing low Sweet Chariot was physically painful to listen to
SF has been on a downward spiral ever since.
In what way. Diane Feinstein was a strong law and order mayor
This is what serving other's is all about Senator Feinstein Served The People of San Francisco so from across The Bay from your Sister City of Oakland thank you Dianne Feinstein.
I always wondered how Diane Feinsteinbergrosenstein and Nancy, who didn’t make a lot of money, lived the lives of Apple and Intel CEO’s. Didn’t add up. They both made government salaries. I did research. Both those broads husbands greatly, greatly benefited from their connections to get extremely wealthy. It’s of course illegal but good luck prosecuting people like that. Grossly corrupt politicians. Sickening. That drunk loser husband of Nancy damn near killed a person walking on the sidewalk when he was drunk driving his Porsche. Diane and Nancy are both corrupt pigs. I wish Nancy would hurry up and join Diane in Hell. Peace. ✌️
She helped ruin California and prospered personally. That's not serving anyone but yourself. California would be better if she and slick Willie Brown had never come to power. Look at San Francisco now 😳
California would look today so much better if Harvey were alive.
Saddest day in for san Francisco 💔😥😔 rest in heaven too both of them
I can eat junk food like crazy, but I have never wanted to harm anyone. This was a bullshit defense for two assissinations!!!
Is that Maury Povich, interviewing White after his resignation?
Dianne Feinstein was still standing until a few weeks ago - what a warrior!
That was n execution😲
The guy admitted to the murders and didn’t get charged for the murders. How?
Excellent documentary
49ers played the steelers that night.
They sent us home from school that day...
Yup.
This type of verdict happens all of the time in San Francisco
He should have gotten the chair or life in prison but in the end he took his own life it wasn't the soda or twinkkies
Harvey Milk was right. Coming out is important and incredibly powerful. When other people know they have someone they admire or love who is LGBTQ+, it changes their opinions and support.
Very interesting, thank you!
I totally blame the jurors for the events following their decision. As a juror you are.responsible to all not just who you feel more attuned He showed premeditation.and should have gotten life no parole. Perhaps they should think of the cries of the victims next time.
R.I.P kings ♥️♥️♥️ 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Ronald Reagan also opposed the Briggs Initiative.
Homophobia or the twinkie made me do it. We all know the answer. Sad
What a shameful verdict 😮
That was one diabolical guy , Dan White . Good riddance .
I just watched this bio last night and incredible the injustice these two souls recieved back then. The thought of a sugar products vs an intitled white man losing his IT was the reason for the murders, just incredible. What is even more incredible, Diane is still in the Senate.....folks we gotta start looking for a future for our democrats....these old folk, have got to go
I'm not sure if your comment is suggesting that it was sugar (which is just ignorant) or if you think it was partly because he was white (which is racist) and lost his job? Either way your judgement is really strange to me.
@@Goofyguy4ever The irony of all this, is that Diane F. made her mark with this event that led her to DC.
What is said at 54:04 is pretty ironic when you think of how many people are released and bailed today that just end up committing more crimes after
Dan White would've been a trumpette
48:37 They keep showing this window through which Dan White climbed to avoid the City Hall metal detectors at the entrance. I'm guessing the window was not barred like this on the day of the assassinations, or else White couldn't have got in. Am I right?
Lived in downtown SF when this happened.
Darn Twinkies
All of those people/ gatekeepers should be ashamed of themselves. But you see they have no shame. 107 years old and you still running for office. Crazy. Strom Thurmond how old was that lizard? And was doing nothing for the country.
Did Dan White's family ever speak publicly about what happened? His wife or kids? Just curious
Fascinating that he didn't have an issue with Dianne Feinstein. He could have taken her out as well. She was a skilled politician,
And this guy was a cop...
This was a very well done documentary, more so than most of the biased ones done today. Dan White, trapped in his own mind with the conviction that there was no way out of his circumstances. Sad for all.
Oh look a trumper. All the other ones are biased. Whatever
@@honestly1970 Okay, make your self clear as to how you judge me a Trumper, if you can?
Dan TYPICALLY felt ENTITLED. SMDH! 🤦🏾♀️👀💅🏾🚩
Listen to Dead Kennedy’s I fought the law it’s based after this story!
I think Dan White was suffering from ptsd, but I don’t think that justifies him killing mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk. He should’ve remain in prison.
I agree to that.
48:59 I would think he'd end up with diabetes.
If it wasn’t for cult leader Jim Jones, Mayor Moscone, Milk, Feinstein, Willie Brown probably wouldn’t have been elected to their political positions. All four preached social justice and Jones’s Peoples Temple preached social justice. Jones supported them financially and on Election Day bused his followers to the voting booths.
How dear you mention that horrible person in the same sentence
@@BrianMaxey-z9e LOL
At least someone remembers the San Francisco cesspool known as City Hall from the 1970s.
The People's Temple, and Jones', influence was quite evident in those days.
These politicians never inquired about the People's Temple, even though the rumors of the abuse (physical, emotional, and financial) where known through the offices of City Hall. These politicians knew that one phone call to Jim Jones guaranteed hundreds of people at a rally, or handing out pamphlets, or votes for them. Moscone, Milk, Feinstein, and Brown all supported Jones and his ideas, but became mute and hiding when the suicidal massacre had occurred.
This is just sad. And as a gay man to see these pioneers for our rights and liberal rights itself, just be assassinated like this is beyond sick
W assassin
This documentary film is fairly complete, but it downplays the tension between the police and the LGBTQ+ community at the time. Many S.F. policemen were sympathetic to Dan White (a former cop), and when he was taken into custody after the murders of Moscone and Milk, some reportedly “nodded their approval” in his direction, and a few even patted him on the back, as if to say “Good job!”
After the White Night riot at City Hall, the retaliatory attack by policemen (who had reportedly removed their name tags and badges, so that they could not be identified) on the Elephant Walk bar on Castro Street was extremely violent, with cops smashing property and customer’s heads in all directions. It was just good luck that no-one was actually killed. Google “white night riot elephant walk” to see some reports on this event.