FM3 Mark II Turbo
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
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00:00 - Intro
00:55 - My Main Preset
02:37 - Dynacabs
03:30 - Preset From Scratch
04:59 - Wah & Verb
05:50 - Drives
06:56 - Phaser
07:39 - Stereo Chorus
08:35 - Dual Delay
09:36 - Virtual Capo
10:33 - Scene Ignore
10:59 - Multitap Delay
12:41 - Rhythmic Echo
13:27 - Extending the Grid
14:30 - Ring Mod
15:17 - Plex
16:24 - Conclusion
17:52 - Mix Example 1
18:35 - Mix Example 2
If you liked the jams at the start and end check out the new Ragdoll single "Skies Limit" here - ua-cam.com/video/WlZymAoNWVs/v-deo.html
Surprised I did not have to get on a wait list to watch this video.
Good one.
Are those "waits" in the US too, or just here 🤔🇦🇺
@@castleanthrax1833u.s as well
Not for long.
Europe is the same
Leon is my favorite beta tester on Fractals forum. He doesn't get in arguments with folks like others and is the most helpful as he also puts out videos to showcase the units!
Some of those guys can come across quite sour sometimes (although they are generally quite helpful). Leon never has the snark.
I appreciate that mate!
My favourite video I've seen from you! Thanks very much for the IR too. You're doing a real service to the guitar/youtube community. Legend!
Wow, thanks! Let me know how the IR's work in your rig :)
Excellent review and loved the playing! I need one of these!
Thanks for the kind words! Awesome unit
Great demo.Cheers from the Caribbean!!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review. Cant wait to finally get the FM3. 🎉 my first professional pedal in that category. Using the Valeton GP-200 unit right now and am already quite happy with this it. Guess it’s another huge Stepp forward with this pedal
Good choice!
I’ve totally put my name down for the waitlist on one of these - hopefully it’ll be available in August as advertised!
Good video. Love the Australian tuxedo too 😂
Che suoni spettacolari
Sounds so good, Leon! I'll definitely be getting one of these.
Get a FM9 Turbo...for sure. Not even close.
@@UTAH100 unless you don't need that much power or switches, of course.
@@andycharles2353 Before you got your cell phone you probably did not need that much power either. Just get a FM9 Turbo and you will be happy. You will have no need to upgrade for ~5 years- it's that good.
I think you'll have a good time with it!
Love both mixes at the end but damn mix 2 hits me in the feelz...Love it!!!!!!!!!
:D
Great stuff Leon thanks much
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Leon - Boss GX-100 or the Boss ME-90 coming out sound wise and has that Fractal feel - which would you pick - just to take to a Buddy's house - dont want to drag my AXE III out - would appreciate it much
That's awesome, I barely hit 30-40% cpu in my presets so I'm still happy with the MKI
Mark 1 is still getting all the same updates which i love about fractal
Man I love that Ragdoll riff you play at 9:08. I was wondering what it was for a long time, you play it in a lot of videos but never mention what it is, until you finally did in one video.
Thankyou! It's always a fun one to best out with some grease on the tone :D
Awesome, my FM3 I just purchased 3 weeks ago is worth about $300 less overnight.
I know how ya feel I bought a helix lt floor last year for 1300$ n guitar center offered me 600$ for it trade in. Which is a slap in the face. Especially since now I wanna get an fm3 n I gotta put money with my helix to get it
LEON!!!! The Fractal Master!
great stuff, i think it's a great move to see a hardware update on the FM3 as well, i've got an older mk1 , the extra bit of CPU is nice (1-2 blocks more or higher quality cabs/reverb etc..)
from what i've understood dyna cabs are using 1024/standard length which explains the CPU savings when going from Hi-Res stereo IRs to this
Yeah that would make sense. I think people are really going to like the workflow with dynacabs over a list of IR's.
Cool, sounds awesome! Do you have any specific strategies for getting the most in flexibility and utility when using just the 3 foot switches? Thanks
You can use layouts and views to essentially page across various combinations of footswitches
It's a lot bigger than I had imagined. Sounds as good as your Axe fx Leon. ✌️🇦🇺
I think the real strength of the FM3 is that you get all the same candy as the flagship for less than half the price. Sure, you can't eat every different type of candy at the same time, all the time, but that's not always a great idea is it.
BRB, hungry now.
Fractal take my $$$ now!! Great job LT! FAS Forum gonna be talking 'bout this....
I don’t need a new axe unit. I need Leon’s confidence in messing with it.
Lol looked like lupin was worried you were gonna bring the house down on him Leon with that guitar today.. nice playing
Hahahah yep. Cheers mate!
Here I am with my original FM3 wondering why I chose the digital route. I got about a year of enjoyment out of it before they came out with an upgraded version, and now here is yet another upgrade. This concept makes me think tube amps are unlikely to vanish in our lifetime.
So, your current FM3 stopped working when this came out?
Get a little perspective, this a very minor update that will probably only help a certain subset of people. It certainly won't stop the mark 1 from being a great sounding unit. If you have to have the mark 2 to create your presets, you should probably have an FM9 anyway.
they don't even add 2nd amp bock, who the f cares about +10% cpu?) fm3 users plays a lot of years with that amount of CPU and feeling great. that's just a cool new revision, with standart price, good job!
Just get the Axefx 3 next time
@@JavierPwns have mk2 for 2 years
@@user-ro9hm5xr3o Exactly. I'd say that more CPU power was "added" through a software updates.
Tuuuuuuuurbooooooooo!
The time has come to scoop up a used FM3
They cost more used than new- sorry.
Join us!
Nice, as always ...
Thanks a lot 😊
I can't start my day until I watch one of your videos to hear you greet me as "legend". 😎👌
Legend!
That last outtro jam was tasty.
Thankyou!
Disapointing that the ringmod doesn't have a self input modulator for the pitch.
In production, a really awesome distortion is to use a ring mod, and low pass the sidechain signal so that the fundamental is the modulation for the ringmod, sounds really awesome.
That sounds very interesting - got a clip? Might have to go to the wishlist!
Amazing sounds! A noobie question, does the FM3 comes with the same amount of effects, amps and cabs of the Axe III but with less power to add up instances, or is it also scaled down in everything?
I think all it's missing is the Vocoder and Tone Match block. Fewer instances of blocks but you can run multiple drives, delays, comps, EQ's etc.
I'm on fm3 waitlist since April
I'm on the waitlist since may, so, it means, I must wait for at least 5 months 😔
Thanks for the great demo! I see that you use a computer to adjust all parameters. Do you must use a computer to access all features? Are all features accessible using built-in buttons and knobs?
Yeah they're all available on board. It's way easier for me to take a screen capture of the editor than setup another camera to film the device.
Just in time! I was tempted to pull the trigger on a second hand FM3 MKI.
I build my presets around 5/6 blocks on the Helix, so the MKI may be the right choice… any suggestion? 🤪
Cool video as always Leon!
Used they are more than new with ZERO warranty. FM9 is better or MKII FM3.
@@UTAH100 no problem for the warranty, I have a good deal for a near mint condition unit of a friend of mine.
My only concern is about the updates. Are the MK1 units destined to be stuck on last firmware?
@@marcosandron6081 That is a total non-issue. Fractal will support the FM3 for years to come. It just might not have the DSP power to accept new FEATURES. If you can swing it, a FM9 Turbo (wait for MKII) will be the way to go. Double the power and 3x the footswitches. Future updates for a very long time. That said any "FM" and Axe-Fx units will be supported a long time. Good choice going with Fractal- top of the heap and I have tried them all.
@@UTAH100 thanks a lot, the MKI is a very good deal, sweet price drop compared to a new unit, I’ll take my time to make the right choice. The MK2 it tempting me, I mean really tempting me 🤣 but my pocket says NO at the moment… let’s see what the future brings! 🥳
@@marcosandron6081 If the smaller display does not bother you, and you don't need complex or hi-res. effects, the MKI FM3 could do the job. It's still better than most modelers out there.
FYI- not sure if you heard of this dude- Sean Mann yet. He is out of the UK. I just signed up for some online lessons- about $65 to learn a song (Watchtower) and his Blues course. Listen to some of his tunes like All Along the Watchtower and SRV Blues Mastery- he is spot on dead accurate.
He uses Helix Native PI's (I asked him.) In fact, here are some samples- nothing short of amazing.
Samples:
ua-cam.com/video/acyEqcWG-54/v-deo.html&ab_channel=SeanMann AND ua-cam.com/video/tBN7zJ-QdUQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=SeanMann AND
ua-cam.com/video/ZSdRFAiiAd0/v-deo.html&ab_channel=SeanMann
Enjoy- Cheers!
My uncle is legit graciously gifting/long term loaning me his freakin' FM3 MkII Turbo!!!
It arrives in 3 days!!
Not gonna lie...
I'm kinda freakin' out a bit!
Squeee!
Wish me luck Leon!!
Cheers!
Stoked for you dude!
Hey LT ... essential viewing, as usual! Is the FM3T any quicker switching between scenes and presets? Any chance you could do a video on managing sound changes in a live environment, to avoid gaps?
I’m guessing the Axe 3 may be next to get some dust on it….is fractal working on the next rack unit (Axe4)?
OG Axe-Fx II was in production and being regularly updated for 8ish years. 5 years in with the III so far.
I still haven't jumped into the Fractal ecosystem but it's getting really hard not to.
I'd be curious to see how the FM3 Turbo handles a dual amp setup into a patch like this. It doesn't have to be 2 complete dual paths either. A lot of my rigs in the HX Stomp and Ampero II simply split out for the amp & cab, hard pan those left & right, and then re-join into the delays and verbs, etc..
You need the fm9 or Axe-Fx III for dual amps. I just did a video on the g66 channel with dual amps
@@LeonTodd Thank you! Critical info to know there!
Was really hoping for the dual amp option
I want to be able to blend between clean and dirty amp with an expression pedal
Really disappointed since there probably is more than enough processing power to do it
I'm really hoping they allow it in a future update
Such an unnecessary limitation
I'd gladly sacrifice the effects for it
Is this still Axe-FX? Or some new unit from the same company? I really need an intro video to all of this stuff! How it all works etc.
Same company, same sounds but a different form factor. I've got quite a few vids with the FM3 and FM9 on here.
Very nice video and elaborate explaination. Now, since it will hit the shores in August I wonder where I can find specs features like "maximum delay time" and the limits and settings/ranges of each effect parameters. Neither the complete owners manual nor specifications states anything remotely like this. Do you know where/how to obtain this information? Some things are crucial to make a decision before buying.
Say, I would love to know if theres any overspill in FX/SEND return. Say you hook up your favorite delay pedal and activate it in and out. Does it have "overspill" when turning off the circuit? The Boss GT1000 core had not. And neither had Helix (the large one). Such petty things are of interest to me. Or if you know its maximum delay time. If one can do Frippertronics.
Max delay time was 8s but got extended to 16s on the Axe-Fx III - I forget if that was ported to the FM3. Regardless you could use 2 simultaneous delays in series to get at least 16s for Frippertronics.
Easy enough to setup spillover - just turn off the FM3 effects send block but not the return block. There's a blocks guide and a very good wiki - wiki.fractalaudio.com/wiki/index.php?title=Axe-Fx_II_Wiki_Home
I've got a lot of FM3 specific tutorials up on here as well as on the G66 channel.
@@LeonTodd Thank you for a very fast answer. It is certainly intriguing.
Question: with this unit can i run my signal through dual different amps into stereo then into two power amps and two 4x12 cabinets? Like one fractal pre amp into one cab, one pre amp into the other
The Fm3 can run one amp block at a time. You could do this with the FM9
Are the processors on the FM3 Turbo and FM9 Turbo the same?
Is there video on the key differences besides the amount of footswitches?
The Fm9 is roughly double the FM3.
13:04 what was that riff ? I know it ,it kinda reminds me political rain by larry mitchell
Relistening it is very similar! I was just noodling with the minor scale
Leon is the king of FAS gear and has been SO much help for SO many. With all the profilers coming out FAS is still the best imo I tried TONEX....meh Who really knows if the profiles are true or not anyway? By the time you buy external pedals you would be much better off using FAS.
I still don't understand why factral continues with waiting lists after more than 15 years on the market, even quad cortex can be easily bought without these horrible waiting lists.
Yes, I've been on the waitlist since may, nobody gives you an estimated... I'm considering to buy a HX stomp xl, however I don't know if line will come up with a new processor in a short time...
If you had to pick between the fm3, kemper stage or tonex, what would you choose?
I've been using an FM3 for the last 3 or so years as my main gigging rig and I love it.
How much more money for 10% and slightly larger scribble strips? I literally just sold my FM3 and just went back to QC. I wasn't too happy with Fractal universe. While the tones were good (after 30 minutes of tweaking the preset), the UI alone just gave me a headache. The smart thing would have been to wait and release something that's new and updated all the way around. Thats just my opinion. While the QC is still slacking with an editor, you can still get up and running in less than 5 minutes with a capture.
Same price as the MK1.
Could you go from an Axe FX III to an FM3 Turbo and achieve 95% of the tone and effects you would use on one of your albums?
Yeah pretty much, that's why I use the FM3 live!
@@LeonTodd Due to a nerve issue caused by a herniated disc in my neck, I haven't played in 2 years. Hopefully I'll be back to playing again in a few months once I have the problem fixed. I had the Axe FX III and a Helix at the time and loved the Axe FX III soooo much more than the Helix. I'm thinking about getting the FM3 Turbo now. How difficult would it be just to use the FM3 without having more footswitches in a live setting?
Could you use the Fractal FM3 Mark II turbo as a pure Audio Interface ? If so, how would it compare to, let's say, a Focusrite Scarlett in just pure audio recording quality ?
Would be nice to be able to use the FM3 as a usb soundcard to play with programs like Amplitube while at the same time record to Pro tools.
Then of course use it for amp modelling by connecting the FM3 to my DSL40CR Marshall 40W combo.
Yeah it works as an audio interface but there's no on-board mic preamps like a Scarlett etc
@@LeonTodd Ah I see, but for recording electric guitar and bass to Pro tools for example and to use it to play some Neural DSP things in the computer it will work as good as a USB soundcard like the Scarlett ? Thanks for help =)
@@mathias6423 Yeah you can set that up
Can run all of those effects and still NOT be able to run dual amps?!!!?
I'm good with my mk I unit.
Is the upgrade worth it? I can get a used fm3 for 925 euro or new fm3 m2 for 1456.
Depends on how much stuff you want to cram into a preset. That's a great price for a used Fm3 !
fractal knows how to milk customers
Is it possible to crossfade from one scene to another using an expression pedal in FM3?
Not with scenes but you can assign just about any parameters you like to an exp pedal. Eg amp gain, delay level and feedback and phaser rate all at the same to go from dry to wet and wobbly
@@LeonTodd thankyou for explaining 🙏🏾
How do you get the CPU % to display in the bottom corner?
Video editing
Can it finally do dual amp & IR blocks for a true stereo guitar rig?
Same block count as the FM3. I'd LOVE Fractal's take on an iridium style unit though
@@LeonTodd Yes! I eagerly await it!
Cat 'O Doom or Doom Kitteh? Get it Wrong and you get shredded. Best Regards and Best Wishes!
Hahahaha those big teeth and claws give no second chance!
Does this fm3 mk2 turbo have the same power as the fm9 turbo?
The FM9T is more powerful
Do you prefer Tonex or fractal tones for amps?
5.45 riff, what band is it from ?
RATT - Lay It Down
Great video! I took quite a lot along for a fractal fm3 mark II starter… pardon the ignorance: what is the guitar your playing?
PRS DGT
Ten percent is turbo? No, ten percent is hype.
Turbo means it’ll have more gain, right??
Only if you install an intercooler.
More processing power.
Faster- uses more gas.
It makes more stutututu noises now 😂😂😂
When you go around corners it goes VROOM more
Is 10% enough to upgrade??… mehhh
Ahhh I really want one but the CPU is so underpowered. It's like a 6-7 year old unit now. I want to be able to use dual amps and I think with the next gen, they need to triple the CPU power.
FM9 is what you seek if you want dual amps on the floor
As long as original FM3 going to be supported with updates, I don’t care and see no any reason to upgrade. If upgrade, then to FM9, but then its different size and weight factor…
Much like the Axe-Fx III mk1 and the FM9 the firmware updates will work on each revision.
Can i you 2 amp blocks???
No, you'll need to go with the FM9 or Axe-Fx III if you want dual amps.
Dual Amp???
Fm9/Axe-Fx III - Yes. Fm3 - No.
My own personal feeling about these "Mark II" and "Turbo" versions of existing products (particularly for the Axe-Fx) is that while their very obvious aim is to milk more money from what's essentially an existing product, it also allows them to very deliberately delay what everyone really wants - a new product. The Axe-Fx 3 launched over 5 years ago...come on Fractal, where's the Axe-Fx 4 ? !!!
*BEST COMMENT IN HERE. AND WHILE YOU ARE AT IT CLIFF. UPDATE THAT 1980's UI PLZZZZ.*
The Axe-Fx 2 got regular firmware updates with new amps, FX and features for over 8 years
@@LeonTodd True, but not the point since any unit cant get those for infinity, and beyond.
The point is, a new designed unit allows the functionality changes to be as numerous as you want, on the software - and hardware side - and using a mix of improved and latest components.
--> PLEASE tell us you appreciate this? - I have to assume you do, and what your reply is, in effect, and equally obvious, is firefighting for the company...Fractal ;) !!!
@@ChrisM541 it's probably that as new parts become available that fit the existing architecture they're taking the opportunity to use those.
A lot of people say Fractal sounds are some of the best, but they seem to have trouble getting stuff out in a timely manner. They never seem to get ahead of the curve competitively...
10%……really?
Leon, dressed to kill mate...rock star drip, where's the whip...Alice Cooper's got nothing!
Cue the “Coke vs Pepsi” arguments in the comment section…
MOUNTAIN DEW BRO AMIRITE
When you have that dropped d tuning with dist and chorus it just sounds...so... Gretchen. 80's called and wanted its Rockman sound back....can't it do anything else?
Hahaha yep that's definitely Ty Tabor territory. I've got a few hundred FM3/FM9/Axe-Fx videos up on here so you should be able to hit all the other parts of the tonal rainbow.
R.I.P FM3 Mark I owners.
I agree.
Line6 Helix exists for years and is still top notch and high customer ranking because Line6 focuses on software optimization of hardware rather than to solve a problem with more hardware.
Thank you. I rest assured my FM3 sounds just as good independent of anything else.
My FM3 can still do everything it could before, and even more now that Dynacabs free up some CPU usage. As long as it's not an entirely new generation, I can achieve the best tones Fractal has to offer, so I don't really care.
If I used a ton of effects, I'd be bummed that a new unit can do stuff I'd like to do with the FM3, but that's not my situation.
10% CPU uplift and bigger scribble strips is hardly a generational leap. It's iterative at best. If this had the CPU horsepower of the FM9, yeah, sure. When I saw the video title, my heart sank. But I don't have anything to feel disappointed about.
I've had my FM3 since the original wait-list days years ago. Nothing but love for anyone getting some more CPU, but I don't feel like the poor cousin.
dual amps/cabs? nope
Never. See FM9 Turbo and done.
@@UTAH100 i have an Axe3 and an FM3. the FM3 is massively under-powered and this new one is only 10% more power?
@@geezberry8889 Correct and agreed- massively under powered. Probably the worse value of all their modern units...but nice form factor for a casual cat who plays via his/her coffee table- then it is perfectly good.
If you want a floor unit that is very close to the Axe-Fx III, the FM9 Turbo is it. I would however def. wait or the MKII to get more DSP, larger fonts and more goodies- hopefully a whole new UI if that matters to you. I also suspect an Axe-Fx IV could be released by summers end the way they are aggressively pushing the discounts on the III.
The FM3 does the job perfectly for me live. That's why they make the fm9 I guess.
They have way too many products and variations now!
Amazed by some of the illogical, uninformed and unfounded comments. I guess…haters gonna hate.🙄
Hey it all feeds the algorithm right?
@@LeonTodd
Good point.👍
Increases the CPU usage ......... That's not a good thing Leon ! You obviously do not mean this , 10% more CPU performance is what you meant no doubt .
Correct! Words are hard :p
Hi leon im so so happy if you one day gift me an fractal Unit it like an fm3 im so thankful with you fractal its an amazing Unit really 🎸🌞🌞🌟⭐⭐⭐⭐🌞🌞🌞🎸🎸 Your an amazing artist really
Too little, too late. 10% is nothing. Waitlist is getting old. Bigger scribble strips is nice- about time. FM9 is still far better, more powerful, more switches and not much more $. Future updates will be focused at the FM9 level and above IMHO.
*UI NEEDS TO BE UPDATED ON ALL FRACTAL UNITS ASAP. IT IS NOT GOOD. EDITING ON UNITS IS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE*
This got me
too much chorus man, why?