IMF: Will Pakistan Ever Get Rid of it? | Ahsan Tariq | Osama Rizvi | Full Episode | 020 | WTI
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2023
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Is there an alternative to IMF? Can any other country or organization take its place? Will China be able to replace it? Is IMF good for Pakistan?
What are our options?
These are some of the questions that Osama and Ahsan deliberate about?
#pakistan #imf #worldtimesinstitute
Mainstream media p agr hamary ye issues discuss horahy hothy es qism ki healthy debates horahi hothi ....informed and enlightened debates ...tu Pakistan ki qismath hi badl jaye ...shame on our electronic media ...kindly app dono main stream media p b aya kary ...these kinda debates are must nowadays ...highly appreciate ...keeep up the good work ..keep these podcasts showering the much needed wealth of knowledge on us the misinformed youth
Discussion is good, but Osama Rizvi, the Host, should properly listen and should not be imposing his thoughts on the guest. Also draw some conclusion at the end of each segment. You are moving to next segment with open questions of already continued segment. And try not to say, Do u know, aaapko pata hai , such words while talking to guest, as it gives the impression as if u r telling the guest that he doesnt know
Thank you for your feedback.
1) I tried to listen to everyone’s point of view
2) The fact that we are leaving things open contradicts with your earlier point that I am imposing my thoughts. I believe in open debate :) and leave it open so that we keep the debate going
3) Ahsan is like a brother and this wasn’t a guest based podcast - the whole scenario is it to be a debate, an academic one, rooted in academic discourse, yet punctuated by heated intervals😊
Ahsan is a polite man with more knowledge compared to Osama being aggressive and adamant. More respect to Ahsan 💯
Excellent program. Ye tou mainstream Media pe chalna chaiye!
your guest is making his points in very rational, logical and practical way.
MashAllah, it was a great debate by both of you, now, I have learned more about international monetary funds (IMF),the benefits of it, as well as the loss
Saw this first time and loved it. First time ever seen such an open-minded discussion by Pakistani people. People like you are needed in society
How friendly and cutely they are debating with Arguments and opinions. And not getting furious that's the difference between educated and uneducated person 💕😘 32:55
Now that's the kind of exchange i love 😋 Two opposite views colliding and giving best juice 👍
Strong arguments from both sides. The beauty of the podcast was its mood of discussion, that was lighter, respecting opinions of each others and last but not least i observed expert analysis with knowledge. Ahsan Tariq, you made this discussion worth it because of your precise and relevant analysis. Love ❤️
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Like this healthy discussion need of pakistan
It's going to clear many myths. Such talks should be done on mainstream media.
Such an intellectual debate!
Very impressive... Pakistani talent.
Sir can you please answer me from where you take all this information and how your your general knowledge is so high.please sir answer🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
The problem is Us. Not China, No IMF no America. The real question is why Pakistan constantly taking loans. ? Why is it normal norm for us now to take loans? Why our system is trash since 1960's?
IMF Spent 56% on Surveillance & Oversight
29% on Capacity Development
and only 15% spent on lending, so according to this IMF neither a bank nor lending is its major role. IMF lends primarily, to countries with an actual or potential Balance of payment needs, as evident by depletion of foreign exchange reserve or depreciating exchange rate.
According to the Beijing consensus, religion must be controlled or removed by the state, which is why Pakistan never adopted it. Democracy in Pakistan does not believe in its fundamental principle of secularism. The establishment and military budget allocation of Pakistan were not discussed.
There is no democracy in Pakistan. Pakistan has never become a nation. It is still a geography.
Jinnah was a hired man by American & British post world war 2 to create a rogue banana republic so that it becomes a deep state of their interest.
If someone says there is a government then it is a democrazy. The Army recruits a govt, they then tries to built a agreement of loot this much money will be looted with consensus and for their labishingly luxuruous life.
This continued b/w
The consensus of loot continued and when ever they cannot reach a agreement when any govt there is a military coup,
How in the world do you define democracy by military coup?
Army - Sheriff family loot
Army - Bhutto family loot
Army - Imran khan loot.
All these army bosses and polotical leaders are dual citizens.... They went from rags to riches looting the money from " US, UK, European union,Saudi, UAE, Qatar grants ".
The Public in Pakistan are being fooled.
The Pakistan is just a piece work of Indian subcontinent. What was life, history before 1947?
So it is a fake artificial history and a epic of lies that was funded by UK & American, to radicalise a society.
The funds left after Army, ISI, ISPR, Pak politicians loot went and Pakistan invested in " Islamisation & Jihadism ".
The result, education only meant to be for privilege Pak punjab muslims... Rest gets shit .
The public are born fools in Pakistan. A country that cannot manage its treasury wants some other country 's territory.. Kashmir.
They sent terrorists under Jihadism sponsored, trained, schooled & radicalised by Pak Army, ISI, ISPR.. after they lost all 4 wars with no gain
1947
1965
1971 - The rise of Dhaka, Bangladesh born... Today they are far ahead than Pakistan..
1999 - Kargil war.
Pak army did not even collect their dead soldiers body after their narrative lost and it became clear soldiers partnered with Pak jihadists from illegally occupied PoK.
The failure started from its creation.. No country will ever exist with religious identity and islamisation & their jihadism outcome =terrorism export to Afghanisthan, Iran, India.
The foolish pak public still does not understand their GDP equivalent money is in foreign banks, foreign assets, relatives of Pak Army, ISI, ISPR, Bhutto, Sheriff,families &Imran khan.
They should now urge to freeze their foreign bank accounts & assets.
The greatest investment of Pak Army, ISI, ISPR and all these Pak politicians are " they were successful in making the public except these ruling families continue to be fools "
They are all dual citizens either in UK, US, Ireland, Saudi, Qatar.
When you grow terrorism, jihadism in your backyard, you should expect it will start to bleed you and not just your neighbour ".
Pakistan introduced terrorism and exported to the world and subcontinent so it should eventually die from the same.
As a mute spectator just like the whole world " we wish to see you die bitten by the snakes (islamisation of society & jihadism you guys invested from British hired agent Jinnah )
Good luck...
Hope the worst is only yet to come.
Your jihadists elements will tear you apart... They will unleash all devlish activities....
The current pakistanis can meet Jjnnah & these terrorists in hell. Your union still does not go away...
India mein hindutwa ka raj khatam karlo pheley
Islam is inversely proportional to secularism
Idealism is no good if you cannot articulate your ideal vision. "It should be something better" is not idealism, it is Escapism.
Excellent discussion. Wbery informative
Sir Ahsan Tariq was not let to speak, he's a great man with great knowledge
Good podcast, the host is knowledgeable unlike other podcasts and kept the other guy in check.
Anxiously waiting for next part💫
it's basically what Ahsan said in the very beginning. Do what IMF asks you to when it gives the money. I guess the main issue isn't who gives you the dollars, it's the structural changes you need to bring. If your state is willing to implement policies which could bring growth then I think it doesn't matter who offers you the helping hand. It's true we haven't, till now, materialized any IMF plan in its true spirit. India and many others have done it and they aren't dependent on IMF anymore.
Thanks a lot
The biggest problem of Pakistan is its externalization of its problems. IMF is not there to distribute free doles to irresponsible countries. A country should be ashamed to go to the IMF 23 times. Get your act together and stop blaming the whole world for your problems.
Did they ask for ur ueless advice YOU FOOL
Valuable debate ....you guys are doing very well.
Healthy conversation 💓
We need the full video, the arguments and tensions included that has been cut 😬 i have been following your debates and both of you are brilliant there's no shame in holding different perspectives, in fact its necessary.
That's why sud interest is Haram.
Loving the way of exchanging words in a decent way and the moment when usama 110% disagrees with ahsan but controlling his nurves and giving weightage to his arguments with counter attack.
Bhai ap log debate kam larh zeyada rahy ho......ek dosry ko moqa tou de....taky point clear cut sun tou saky hum.
Please do these more often 🙏🏻
It appears that one individual represents China while the other represents the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the United States. In my view, both countries and their financials institutes exhibit characteristics commonly associated with imperialism.
MASHA ALLAH.. bahut arse k baad aisa controversial topic isee tarah muhabbat mein with arguments discuss karna world times waln ne banaya hai... Geo both Sir Ahsan and Sir Usama .. aj bahut maza aya❤❤❤❤😍😍🌹🌹
Hello sir,
I am from India. I really like the debate or conversation. I understand there can be multiple aspects of taking loans from different institutions.
But in your conversation I got confused about one point that is:
Should IMF right off Pakistan's loan or should it release the committed amount.
Because you said that IMF has right off for so many times, why not in case of Pakistan.
While government is looking for current dispersal desperately.
Thankyou if you can reply.
Under special circumstances and incentivized programs loans can be written off by IMF. Since Pak is not providing any such support so it is highly unlikely that IMF will extend such benevolence. The point here is that the country should be much more prudent in financial decision making so that the negative aspects of IMF policies should not influence the basic structure. IMF shoukd release the payment going beyond its normal line of work but that is again wishful thinking from a humble Pakistani.
My favorite,but opponent sir Ahsan ...very interesting talk with your slim smile .. zeberdast
osama saab form where you found such content related to topic pllzz tell us as well
Please add the point security for the tourism
IMF.. CURSE... HY...
One suggestion, Osama Rizvi should speak less to maintain balance in the discussion, it seems he is dominating and then it looks like a directional lecture instead of a balanced discussion of two people.
I like this guy voice very much ahsan tariq
How much does Pak export to China. If the EU and US stop importing from Pak, it will collapse.
Tujhe Matlab HARAMZADE
@@tusharagarwal4417 Tujhe mirchi kyu lag raha hai Madarchod.
Sir ki smile 🥰
killer 🤣
@@muhammadadnantariq1735 bhut zada😂
Goodness of sir is the reality based thinking and listen the arguments of his students very calmly and openly and argue logically...
Don't like the Host in this video Particularly... Bhai Guest boht acha bol rha hai bolnay do Plz.
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Love these podcasts.
Just one thing that is very annoying is those pop-up sounds (subscribe and like etc ). For God's sake, this is 2023 we all know the drill already.
Bht patience h geust me, halnky host mai honi chahye,host na hi bolta tu bahter tha.
Kya economic hitman ka Pakistan ki economic decline ke sath koi link he?
keep Mr TARIQ"S mic on
Plz record podcast on China's economical policies and USA
Agar ap bank me jake karz lete ho to bank time pe wapas be karz mangata he ose bande se jisne liya hu
Magar imf ese nhi krta wo pichla karz chorh kar or zyada karz deta he or ye nahi poch ta ke wapas kon karega tmhara baap kabar se ot kar wapas karega
Liken do or bad me pakistan ho hulam banao jese pehle angrezo ke hulam te bas os ka tarika badal gaya
Sir we want more of podcasts like this....best rivalry to witness
What application is used to edit video in such a fantastic way please.
Premium Pro
Green shirt guy is emotional rather than rational 🤣
Too much emotion and one sided love for china. 😂
@@rahulkaurav2362
The mofos sold aksai chin
Don't know what else is given for 99 year lease from gilgit.
Either he is corrupted by Chinese dollars or dumb . Leaning towards first
Yaar aapas mai hi fighting kamaal hai dunya hum p hansrahi hai or economy khelrahai ho yaqeen karen siwaye fight k khuch nahin learn kiya😕
ask this man what CPEC delivered till now ,it's a fail project given to amateur non productive ,non competitive market like pakistan
Must read 'economic hitman' to know about world financial order
Sir Ahsan is a gem of a person. ❤
larai na kro bhai hahahaha
Good debate but ya excellent hota agar aap ak dosry ko bat karny ka moka dety..
wow osama rizvi the host convert in gust
29:10 bhai LUMS was established in 1985 and moved to 100 acres campus in 1993, howcome Ahsan concluded that LUMS was established after funding start coming after 2001.
Uski marzi tainuu kii
"USAID has had a long-standing relationship with LUMS. The agency contributed generously during the early years of LUMS to construct the new campus. The MNBSP has played an integral role in supporting LUMS to make quality education attainable for talented students. Apart from this, USAID in partnership with HEC has also funded various research projects across different schools at LUMS."
Wah wah.. Begging to write off debt is realism🤡 pura bikaris gaaliya detae hai America ko. Phir bolte ki karja maaf kar do.
Ye kaun sa logic hai bro. Ask your jaan China to write off loans
If they write off loan you can restart funding terrorism. 🤡
Brics bank may get bigger with saudi coming into it. I agree India still have much to do to get upto level of China.
why don't talkshows be like this?
It would be great if Ahsan Tariq had this debate with Sir Athar Mansoor. Although, Osama is good but lacks facts and debating skills.
onions have become unaffordable in pakistan, but farmers in india have stopped selling onions because the price has crashed. So, if you can work out a detente with India -you can get onions from india.
Why is pakistan not dumping america and moving to china full time.
The over-reliance of pakistan towards America comes with the baggage of history which can't be let go all of a sudden. Geopolitics takes a central role and doesn't allow independent foreign policy prerogatives.
Ya tu english bolo ya urdu ky clear smaj ajye plz
You can clearly distinguish that shia community is more rational and has more connection with modern education all over the same is in lucknow with a predominant ahia population
instead of talking about development, industrialization, and reform issue these idiots are discussing which hegemon amon west and China is better sugar daddy 😂,
full externalization of problems and issue ,
look inwards ,india also went to imf but we had self respect and determination to come out of it
Quite right. India has made a lot progress towards restructuring its economic portfolio since the early nineties. We can learn a thing or two from it.
I wish the host would SHUT UP when the guest is trying to argue a point. Very frustrating
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اگر امریکہ ہمارا قرض معاف کر دے تو اس کا ہم پر کنٹرول ختم ہو جائے گا. ہماری اشرافیہ اور آئی ایم ایف وغیرہ کا ایک باہمی بقا کا تعلق ہے دونوں ایک دوسرے کو زندگی دیتے ہیں. مستقبل قریب میں آئی ایم ایف معاشی پالیسیاں بناۓ گی اور ہماری ذمہ داری اسے نافذ کرنے کی ہو گی.
It is quite funny to see these 2 clowns talking about IMF .