Honestly what I'd love to see is you two have a "beginner's DM guide" where you take products you give the thumbs up to and split it into budget ranges. Basically make the assumption someone just bought the books and what is the best products for an addition $50, $100, & $150 with all the pros and cons of each "tier"
I pretty sure everyone is now coming to talk about Ollie's deals lol. I bought 2 creature cases and 4 terrain cases for our group. 2.99 is a great deal for whats in the box. Crazy.
I just picked up one of each for 2.99, may go back and get another set. These would be great for DIY miniatures gaming along the lines of Tonks or Gaslands, or for upgrading my old Mage Knight Dungeons collection.
As an old man that was already playing d&d in 1985 😉, I agree that 4e had the absolute best supplements ever, and i'm not a bit surprised that the Reincarnated set is your top choice. Great vid guys!
@@BasicLiches loke are easily up there with the reincarnated battlemaps for quality and give you a code to download online maps too which is a nice touch.
I use both Loke and Dungeoncraft and my main issue is too much variety. I want to use it all and have to limit myself otherwise the players wouldn't have room for their minis.
The Loke 2 sided battle maps are perfect. 4 part fold out - like typical board games. THey fold flat and provide a canvas to add the Dungeoncraft, flip tiles for reincarnated tiles. I have 2 to make a large play area. I store my DungonCraft in document protectors in a binder. I won't be buying the WOTC Campaign Case.
Found these for $2.99 at Ollie's Bargain Outlet. Picked up the creatures one because we could use more little tokens but I think I'll stick to my dry erase terrain board. I'll make my own clings.
Great segment! Pretty much confirm my first impressions when I saw the wizards video regarding the campaign cases. And I'm now subscribed to your channel keep up the great work!
Thanks so much for subscribing John. Glad to have you as part of our ever growing legion of lich-y cultists...um, erm...subscribers. We've got plenty more videos coming!
You can get wrapping paper that's backed with 1" grid. And there are places with industrial laminating machines that do work for teachers. They'll often laminate anything you want for stupidly cheap. So for say a 2 dollar roll of paper and a 5 dollar lamination you could have a 25' x 4' laminated surface to play on. Or 2 10 x 4's and a 5 x 4 as well. You can dry erase on it. It's cheap as hell. Relatively durable. Just a solid to have a cheap game matt on hand.
Thank you for showing how you open it! We were terrified to break the carry case, but that magnet is very strong and we thought it slid out to the side lol
Cheers guys, really useful review. Clicked on this thinking "hope I don't have to go trawling through a load of other kit reviews for comparison", but you guys had it covered. Nice!
Wizards really went, "never trust no one, not even yourself" with how their own product is better than their more expensive product lol. I would've maybe liked this one better if at least there were more different terrains and not only grass and floor
We agree 100%. It just doesn't make sense that the tiles pretty much make the exact same area as the fold out playing surface. It's such a bizarre choice. No clue how it made it through quality control! And if they don't release more clings, then the creatures case will become irrelevant to anything, but neophyte dungeon masters first few adventures.
@@BasicLiches honestly at this point for 70usd I would prefer to buy Lego baseplates and flat pieces and I think I might get more worth out of that lol
Thanks Bruce! We do love lots of other systems besides 5E and hope to cover things like Dungeon Crawl Classics, Old School Essentials, Mork Borg etc... It's a good time to be into TTRPGs!
Unless you're okay just laying those unique tiles out randomly, it feels like a lot of setup time to get the right shapes in the right places for the map you want. Faster to draw a quick layout on a blank mat. Buying pads of giant gridded paper is an option to have multiple maps drawn out ahead of time when you're not sure where the party will go, and they're reasonably priced at any office supply store and can be found in the same grid size.
Thank you for the honest review! I'm just getting back into D&D after an extended hiatus - and almost picked these up at the LGS before Christmas. I'm really glad I didn't after watching this - and will pick up your recommendations instead! Thanks gents!
I am incredibly thankful for this video and the effort made to compare to alternatives. I was about to get the terrain case as a gift for a friend and after seeing this can spend the money more wisely on the Reincarnated sets for more variety. Keep up the great work!
19:05 referring to the markers…. i end up using isopropyl alcohol in order to clean these. i like to pre draw these maps in an effort to get more than the minimum detail in with last second work.
The black scroll games tiles are beautiful and they are double sided as well with day and night views. Stacking floors for interiors too. I also suggest Loke map books. All of them are awesome.
Thanks for the tip Nortonsapple. We're stoked that 3rd party publishers and indie companies have stepped up to give us products that are actually usable!
Thank you for this review and your brutal honesty! I was curious about the sets, but the price point gave me pause. I'm glad I didn't get taken in by the nice packaging.
I'm watching this video now because I heard that Ollie's has them for $3. I'm not sure if its worth it. I just happen to be driving close to one today so I might pick a few up.
Oh good! you got Dungeon Craft in the mix! Made by gamers they know what you need (and want) backed their stuff. It's pretty great. But you're right about the prep. 80% of mine are not cut out because I haven't needed them yet. 🤣 I cut them out as I need them.
Absolutely LOVE Dungeon Craft. Awesome company that makes killer stuff. We'll probably dedicate a video just to them at some point. Thanks for watching Hunter!
100% agree, i bought the token set and the next day i saw your video, i was not all that happy with it. Previously had bought 3 of the DT Recreated two dungeon and forest and town, i still like the dry erase reversible fold up thing and some colored markers, i have 2 of those. i use those more than anything and just draw what they are seeing. Use Blue painters tape to hold your mats down peels right up if you don't leave it for over a few days.
Ah man, we wish we got the video out sooner too, but 1 video a week is as fast as we can film lol! Those fold up mats work great, thanks for the comment Xax!
@@BasicLiches I noticed tonight that the fold up dry erase mat fits nicely in the red tokens box. Also I decided that the excess boundaries on the stickers are mentioned to be discarded, keep the sheets and restock as usual. Sadly I doubt I get the blue box as it looks lame .
Great review guys! I’m going to look into those Dungeon Tiles Reincarnated. I already have the Dungeon Craft sets and they are amazing. They seem like they’d pair well together.
People keep mentioning the Loke BattleMat Books. We've heard of them, but it sounds like we might need to splurge and buy some! Thanks for watching the videos and dropping us a comment Richard!
First time to your YT space. Great video, and really enjoyable breakdown of products in a theme. I loved how honest you were, and how practical your perspective was. I think it would be very popular with RPG players (I only play Pathfinder 2e, for example). One bit of value that I see in the D&D Campaign Case is the case itself. It becomes a great organizer with flare and it seems a little 'up-scale' as a carrying box. But the rest I agree with; some of it was just plain weird like having the square mat be the same two surfaces as the linkable tiles. Again, great job! Subscribed!
Thanks so much for the feedback Dane! We love getting comments like this. We play RPGs other than 5E, and we hope to cover them as the channel grows. Have a great day!
Thanks for the review. Best part is the competitive products. I think the concept is solid...some beefy interlocking tiles, clings so you can prep the rooms put them in the case and break them out quickly at game time, clings also lay flat so minis don't tip at all and can move for a dynamic dungeon. I think marketing dropped the ball. Razor strategy might have worked better. Lower price point and release some supplemental packs of clings or an adventure that included the creatures and terrain needed at launch and the value proposition would be more clear. As is, thanks for saving me some money!
I want to emphasize getting a mat with hexagonal on one side and squares on the other. The square side is good for buildings. The hexagon side us great for outdoor battlefields with no buildings. The hexagon allow you to cut down on the math for moving diagnally.
Great review guys. I didn't even know about the Pathfinder "tiles". I think those will be great for on-the-fly dungeons that I've done before with my group.
I must say, between the DnD Cases, I thought the Creature Case slightly edged out. This Campaign Case is hilariously useless. Just get Heroquest and DND board games and wala, you got your environmental tiles and even a Start Tile :D!!!!! Thanks for the review once more :D!
Nice to see you in the comments again Simoun! We agree that the creature case is the better value. At the very least those weighted discs feel like a premium product. Everything about the terrain case feels cheap. They're still using art assets from Fourth Edition! Charging almost $70 for this product is practically criminal...
I actually have the 3 core sets of dungeon tiles for 4th edition, then got the 3 reincarnated sets and..... you can't tell me they didn't intend for people to do that. The punched out tiles from each of the matching sets is a PERFECT fit to a single box, and once the slipcovers are off, the actual storage boxes are identical from the original releases and the reincarnated sets, and there's actually a lot of differences between the old and new versions. So..... yeah, I spent about $100 in total between the old sets and new sets, but it's insane what I can make with them all. As a test one time actually, I took just the 2 city sets and built an entire town that covered my table. Market, multiple buildings, a canal running through town with bridges going over it.... the works! It's honestly sad to see how bad this new version is compared to the old boxes of cardboard.
I have a couple of the Dungeon Craft ones , lol ya it took me awhile to cut it all out! I love that they are super colorful, but being so glossy it can be hard for players to see what they are. I also bought a ton of Fantasy World Creator, I thought I would love it but they are to black and white. Also I had bought all the D&D games for the minis and it comes with dungeon tiles you could use also. I always have my battlemats out on my table so they are flat (we use these alot). When possible I like to put on the table a few small room/encounters with all the dressing too so they look good, not all the rooms are for fights, this way it gives the players something to look at during the game and I dont have to draw out or build the whole dungeon.
Thank you gentlemen from the UK. I’ve been returning to in person dnd post covid over the past couple of months and I’m looking to up my DM game with proper monster tokens. This was super helpful choosing my best option ( I went with patherfinder tokens don’t tell wotc)
The reincarnated sets is awesomesauce to a dungeon steak. Its actually worth ti buy 2x of city, wilderness and dungeon. Also theres one coming out in December.. in Norway, guess earlier in the US. Its called Tactical maps Reincarnated and contains: "Best Of" samling er nøye utvalgt blant noen av de mest ettertraktede eventyrene i D&D-universet: Tomb of Horrors (4th Ed) Vor Rukoth (4th Ed) Demon Queen's Enclave (4th Ed) Death's Reach (4th Ed) The Book of Vile Darkness (4th Ed) Kingdom of the Ghouls (4th Ed) Dungeon Master's Kit (4th Ed) Orcs of Stonefang Pass (4th Ed) Fields of Ruin (3rd Ed) Gargantuan Blue Dragon (3rd Ed) Vaults of the Underdark (4th Ed) Legend of Drizzt Scenario Pack (3rd Ed) Colossal Red Dragon (3rd Ed) Red Hand of Doom (3rd Ed)
whats even funnier about the dungeon tiles reincarnated, is it's a carry over from 4th edition XD. Hell, if you could get a hold of those tilesets, you'd probably be even *more* impressed.
Exactly...it's crazy how they haven't come up with a better solution in over 15 years! At this point they should just re-release the rest of the 4th edition tile sets.
The Reincarnated set is just reprints of the older Dungeon Tile sets from 2006. That said in the 16 or so years sense they came out I only had one or two pieces go bad, spills at the game table happens. I have always said if they wanted to improve on them just make some of them interlocking and make the surface usable with markers. I don't see much use for bigger, all the same shape tiles.
It's kind of sad that they haven't come up with a better solution since 2006. Also, they're still using the same art assets. We understand why the reincarnated tiles have the same 4th edition art...but that's no excuse for the Terrain Case. It's supposed to be a brand new/premium product! Maybe we'll get some interlocking tiles with One DnD! Thanks for watching and for dropping us a comment.
@@BasicLiches I wouldn't hold my breath. Seems their virtual tabletop is what they are putting their effort into. What Wizards should do is focus on things that make the mobile DM Lives better with their already existing products. Like for example maybe have something a kin to a small parts bin. A backpack or side bag to hull around a book or two and a tablet. I am rather handy with a sewing machine to make my own bag and power tools to mod a small parts bin to fit my needs but not everyone is so blessed.
Great honest review. I bought the terrain case and was very disappointed with it as well. Have you subbed and like; looking forward to more D&D reviews!
Just picked up two of these bad boys at my local Ollie's for 2.99 a piece, at that price im more than happy with my purchase. My only regret is missing out on the creature set for the same price.
Oh my! Thanks for the video! I was about to order it to gift my hubby 😅, completely disappointed with the quality of it... The Reincarnated set seems the best option by far!
You're welcome Victor! Getting a wet erase battle mat and a couple of the reincarnated sets for the same price as the Terrain Case would be a smarter way to spend your money! Thanks for watching and dropping us a comment.
I am so glad to have found your reviews of the campaign cases. Being an aspiring GM in the process of putting together a basic GM kit, I could easily have fallen for these. I have been eying the battle mat books by Loke Battle Mats, do you have an opinion on those?
The dungeon tiles reincarnated are pretty solid but the prob is that you need 2-4 sets to actually make something that makes sense. They give you roughly half of what you need. The other problem is that they are shiny. Any well lit environment will produce glare on the tiles. The variety is great but grab two boxes or you will find yourself pulling your hair out trying to create what you want.
They can't be shinier or glossier than the tiles included in the Campaign Case Terrain lol. Those things are practically reflective! Grabbing multiple copies/sets of the Dungeon Tiles is probably a better idea than the campaign case. Thanks so much for watching! Is your avatar from the movie "31"? Wolf just watched that not too long ago!
@@BasicLiches it is! Not my favorite Rob Zombie flick but I loved the doom head character. I still use the monologue from the intro for some of my big bads. Especially lichs. Nothing better than a lich who will "bless you with a story"
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! So much for this reveiw, been planing to buy these for a while now, and this video showed me that I shouldn't. And this helps me alot cause it's more expensive here in sweden cause of import etc so this case would had cost about 80-90bucks here, Gonna spend that money on the reincarnated tiles or the dungeon craft ones instead. Here have a like, and i'm subscribing asap. Much love! :D
Why would you want the terrain clings to be opaque?? With the way they are now, they blend into the surroundings. Having white or black space around the edges and filling in gaps would look TERRIBLE. Honestly, just picturing that in my head looks cheap. I do agree that they could have used more variety in the clings and tiles themselves. And the tiles don't even lock onto the large map if you needed it to for a huge area, they would look weird sitting next to each other if you needed to use both tile types. I liked this video more than the Creature case video, keep it up!
They need to do something with the terrain clings, because they look very washed out the minute you attach them. Perhaps not opaque, but they certainly need to tweak the colors on them. We found them tremendously unsatisfying once they were placed on the tiles. In dim lighting, they would be very hard to see. They should sort of POP and be noticeable to everyone at the table. Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment John. We always appreciate it!
I believe that the tiles are not compatible with adventuring system tiles. That was a really lost chance. They could expand the tiles of the castle ravenloft, ashardalon etc boxes and the possibilities could be endless.
Tying them into those boardgames that DMs probably own would make too much sense lol. It seems like they wanted to create these two crates as a stand-alone ULTIMATE SOLUTION. They missed the mark pretty badly!
For $65 absofuckinglutetly not. For the $2.99 I got them from Ollie's for? An awesome, affordable way to play with my kids Kinda glad it sucked so I could get it for cheap but wtaf for putting out a name brand product for that price
Hey Bill thanks for the compliment! We shoot with a Cannon EOS M50 and we rotate editing between the two of us every week. We shoot in relatively dim/soft light then boost shadows/hi-light in post as well as reducing some mid/detail to eliminate shine. Thanks for watching!
Really appreciate the thorough breakdown, guys. Any thoughts about whether you could use wet or dry erase markers on the Dungeon Tiles Reincarnated? Our group was thinking about buying both this and Dungeon Craft (for the clings) for our DM for Christmas. Or do you think the tiles function so well you really wouldn't need markers? Thanks!
Dnd wise some of best starter sets for dm seem to be ashardalon/ravenholm/legend of drizzt board games. They all come with decent ammount of (mind you non-marker-compatible) tiles and minis plus some extra tokens you can repurpose for around 50-60 bucks. For beginner as far as im concerned they are far better deal.
Honestly what I'd love to see is you two have a "beginner's DM guide" where you take products you give the thumbs up to and split it into budget ranges. Basically make the assumption someone just bought the books and what is the best products for an addition $50, $100, & $150 with all the pros and cons of each "tier"
Thanks for watching and thanks for the idea James!
Just got this and the creature case for 2.99 each at Ollie's in Michigan. What a difference a year makes.
I’m here because my Ollies will have both creature and terrain cases for only $2.99 each tomorrow.
I pretty sure everyone is now coming to talk about Ollie's deals lol. I bought 2 creature cases and 4 terrain cases for our group. 2.99 is a great deal for whats in the box. Crazy.
Got these for $3 each at Ollie's. Total worth it at that price.
These were clearanced out at Ollie’s for 2.99. Not worth the 65 original price. Totally worth 3.
I just picked up one of each for 2.99, may go back and get another set. These would be great for DIY miniatures gaming along the lines of Tonks or Gaslands, or for upgrading my old Mage Knight Dungeons collection.
Hi. I'm from the future.
These are in sale at Ollies for 3 bucks. I think their about right now. 😅
Just got this from Ollie's for 3 buck! Definitely worth the price.
As an old man that was already playing d&d in 1985 😉, I agree that 4e had the absolute best supplements ever, and i'm not a bit surprised that the Reincarnated set is your top choice. Great vid guys!
Thanks so much Wayne! We're hoping that they reincarnate more of those old 4E supplements. We'd love to see the Monster Vault tokens come back!
Ollies now has these for 3 dollars. at that price point they are worth it
I'd recommend Loke Battlemats too (UK company). But the Pathfinder pawns and terrain look to be a great way to go. Thanks for the review.
yeah! Loke have pretty great options for diverse terrains! Thanks for watching and have a lichin' day!
@@BasicLiches loke are easily up there with the reincarnated battlemaps for quality and give you a code to download online maps too which is a nice touch.
I concur this. Got their Wilderness set with two books of battlemats via kickstarter, and we already had some really good time with those.
I use both Loke and Dungeoncraft and my main issue is too much variety. I want to use it all and have to limit myself otherwise the players wouldn't have room for their minis.
The Loke 2 sided battle maps are perfect. 4 part fold out - like typical board games. THey fold flat and provide a canvas to add the Dungeoncraft, flip tiles for reincarnated tiles. I have 2 to make a large play area. I store my DungonCraft in document protectors in a binder.
I won't be buying the WOTC Campaign Case.
You can pick them up at ollies right now for 3 bucks
I really like the effort you guys made to give the people alternatives in your review. You guys are fun to listen to so I am a sub for sure.
Thanks so much Nate! We love getting feedback like this. Have a lichin' day!
Honest reviews and options I didn't know about. I'll watch every vid like this, thank you for your work.
Thanks for the kind words!
I especially love the bridge with absolutely nothing to go under the bridge. Classic.
Yeah apparently not enough room on the cling sheets for water. Thanks for watching Nick!
Found these for $2.99 at Ollie's Bargain Outlet. Picked up the creatures one because we could use more little tokens but I think I'll stick to my dry erase terrain board. I'll make my own clings.
Great segment!
Pretty much confirm my first impressions when I saw the wizards video regarding the campaign cases.
And I'm now subscribed to your channel keep up the great work!
Thanks so much for subscribing John. Glad to have you as part of our ever growing legion of lich-y cultists...um, erm...subscribers. We've got plenty more videos coming!
I got both terrain and creature from Ollie's for like $7 total
These are $3 at Ollie's discount stores now.
They're selling these at Ollie's Discount chain for $2.99. I'd say that's worth it lol!
You can get wrapping paper that's backed with 1" grid. And there are places with industrial laminating machines that do work for teachers. They'll often laminate anything you want for stupidly cheap. So for say a 2 dollar roll of paper and a 5 dollar lamination you could have a 25' x 4' laminated surface to play on. Or 2 10 x 4's and a 5 x 4 as well. You can dry erase on it. It's cheap as hell. Relatively durable. Just a solid to have a cheap game matt on hand.
Hells yeah, that's a sick concept! Thanks for the insight and thanks for watching!
I have literally done this before. It works
Thank you for showing how you open it! We were terrified to break the carry case, but that magnet is very strong and we thought it slid out to the side lol
Good thing I watched both vids first. You guys saved me lots of money :D
Glad we were able to help you out Khylar! These things aren't worth the money!
Cheers guys, really useful review. Clicked on this thinking "hope I don't have to go trawling through a load of other kit reviews for comparison", but you guys had it covered. Nice!
Thanks so much for watching and dropping us a comment!
Wizards really went, "never trust no one, not even yourself" with how their own product is better than their more expensive product lol.
I would've maybe liked this one better if at least there were more different terrains and not only grass and floor
The monsters are definitely the better of the 2, but I wish at least there was some option to get extra clings stickers
We agree 100%. It just doesn't make sense that the tiles pretty much make the exact same area as the fold out playing surface. It's such a bizarre choice. No clue how it made it through quality control!
And if they don't release more clings, then the creatures case will become irrelevant to anything, but neophyte dungeon masters first few adventures.
@@BasicLiches honestly at this point for 70usd I would prefer to buy Lego baseplates and flat pieces and I think I might get more worth out of that lol
As a fellow old guy who is more OSR. I had the Holmes set growing up. Love your honesty and calling out the cash grabs. Subscribed.
Thanks Bruce! We do love lots of other systems besides 5E and hope to cover things like Dungeon Crawl Classics, Old School Essentials, Mork Borg etc... It's a good time to be into TTRPGs!
Unless you're okay just laying those unique tiles out randomly, it feels like a lot of setup time to get the right shapes in the right places for the map you want. Faster to draw a quick layout on a blank mat.
Buying pads of giant gridded paper is an option to have multiple maps drawn out ahead of time when you're not sure where the party will go, and they're reasonably priced at any office supply store and can be found in the same grid size.
It's hard to argue against the blank gridded mats or graph paper. They're easy to use and get the job done fast.
Thank you for the honest review!
I'm just getting back into D&D after an extended hiatus - and almost picked these up at the LGS before Christmas. I'm really glad I didn't after watching this - and will pick up your recommendations instead!
Thanks gents!
Happy that we were able to save you some hard earned cash! Thanks for watching!
I'm not gonna complain, I just bought both of the campaign cases for $6 at a ollies
I am incredibly thankful for this video and the effort made to compare to alternatives. I was about to get the terrain case as a gift for a friend and after seeing this can spend the money more wisely on the Reincarnated sets for more variety. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much for the comment. Glad we could help out!
I still have all my 4e era dungeon tiles. They still look new, and there's so much variety...Even within the theme of "dungeon".
This terrain case should have just been filled with 4e tiles instead. It would have been a much better product. Thanks for the comment Matt!
Great review, I appreciate the honest review and comparison to other products
Thanks so much! We love doing comparisons because we think it provides valuable information to the community. More videos like this are coming soon!
19:05 referring to the markers…. i end up using isopropyl alcohol in order to clean these. i like to pre draw these maps in an effort to get more than the minimum detail in with last second work.
The black scroll games tiles are beautiful and they are double sided as well with day and night views. Stacking floors for interiors too. I also suggest Loke map books. All of them are awesome.
Thanks for the tip Nortonsapple. We're stoked that 3rd party publishers and indie companies have stepped up to give us products that are actually usable!
Terrain Campaign Case is $3 at Ollies if you can find it. What a train wreck.
Thank you guys for both reviews! That Chessex mat is exactly what I was looking for and so much easier than the clunky Campaign Cases.
Thank you for this review and your brutal honesty! I was curious about the sets, but the price point gave me pause. I'm glad I didn't get taken in by the nice packaging.
Always glad to help BPS! Thanks for watching!
I'm watching this video now because I heard that Ollie's has them for $3. I'm not sure if its worth it. I just happen to be driving close to one today so I might pick a few up.
Oh good! you got Dungeon Craft in the mix! Made by gamers they know what you need (and want) backed their stuff. It's pretty great. But you're right about the prep. 80% of mine are not cut out because I haven't needed them yet. 🤣 I cut them out as I need them.
Absolutely LOVE Dungeon Craft. Awesome company that makes killer stuff. We'll probably dedicate a video just to them at some point. Thanks for watching Hunter!
100% agree, i bought the token set and the next day i saw your video, i was not all that happy with it. Previously had bought 3 of the DT Recreated two dungeon and forest and town, i still like the dry erase reversible fold up thing and some colored markers, i have 2 of those. i use those more than anything and just draw what they are seeing. Use Blue painters tape to hold your mats down peels right up if you don't leave it for over a few days.
Ah man, we wish we got the video out sooner too, but 1 video a week is as fast as we can film lol! Those fold up mats work great, thanks for the comment Xax!
@@BasicLiches I noticed tonight that the fold up dry erase mat fits nicely in the red tokens box. Also I decided that the excess boundaries on the stickers are mentioned to be discarded, keep the sheets and restock as usual. Sadly I doubt I get the blue box as it looks lame .
If it makes you feel better, at a store I go to, both the Creature and Campaign Cases cost, I kid you not, $100 each!!!!!
I got both cases for $4 each lol, at Ollie's so i'm pretty ok with the cost I got.
Just got these for $3 at a discount store 1 year later.
I just stumbled upon the terrain case @ Amazon for $21 on 1/6/23. I guess the market decided $65 was silly. Thanks for the review.
Great review guys! I’m going to look into those Dungeon Tiles Reincarnated. I already have the Dungeon Craft sets and they are amazing. They seem like they’d pair well together.
The Dungeon Tiles are great! The Dungeon Craft sets will just provide some awesome scenery and extra variety! We love using them both.
Lol they are all over Ollie's for $2.99, worth at that price!
Great review! Thank you guys! Checking out the Dungeon Craft now....
I still shop around for the dungeon tiles released for 3.5. they are the best product out there
Makes sense! Anything is better than this Terrain Case. Thanks for watching and dropping us a comment!
I just found a store selling these things for 3 bucks each, haha.
A comparison with the Loke BattleMats Books with their sets of clings would be good
People keep mentioning the Loke BattleMat Books. We've heard of them, but it sounds like we might need to splurge and buy some! Thanks for watching the videos and dropping us a comment Richard!
First time to your YT space. Great video, and really enjoyable breakdown of products in a theme. I loved how honest you were, and how practical your perspective was. I think it would be very popular with RPG players (I only play Pathfinder 2e, for example). One bit of value that I see in the D&D Campaign Case is the case itself. It becomes a great organizer with flare and it seems a little 'up-scale' as a carrying box. But the rest I agree with; some of it was just plain weird like having the square mat be the same two surfaces as the linkable tiles. Again, great job! Subscribed!
Thanks so much for the feedback Dane! We love getting comments like this. We play RPGs other than 5E, and we hope to cover them as the channel grows. Have a great day!
Thanks for the review. Best part is the competitive products.
I think the concept is solid...some beefy interlocking tiles, clings so you can prep the rooms put them in the case and break them out quickly at game time, clings also lay flat so minis don't tip at all and can move for a dynamic dungeon.
I think marketing dropped the ball. Razor strategy might have worked better. Lower price point and release some supplemental packs of clings or an adventure that included the creatures and terrain needed at launch and the value proposition would be more clear.
As is, thanks for saving me some money!
Our pleasure! Even on clearance this thing would be a tough sell. At least the Creature Case had some redeeming qualities. Have a lichin' day!
I want to emphasize getting a mat with hexagonal on one side and squares on the other. The square side is good for buildings. The hexagon side us great for outdoor battlefields with no buildings. The hexagon allow you to cut down on the math for moving diagnally.
Good honest review--as a fellow DnD content creator, I like what you are doing! Liked and subscribed. Good luck!
Thanks for the kind comment! We try to tell it like it is and hopefully it helps folks in the DnD community. Thanks so much for watching!
"Let's try to put this tree back with EIGHT MILLION LITTLE-" 🤣🤣🤣
The tiny little OCD we have makes us want to line up the clings oh so perfectly each time we put them back...that tree was a nightmare!
@@BasicLiches it certainly resonated with me, and your attempt to stay calm about it was funny
Great review guys. I didn't even know about the Pathfinder "tiles". I think those will be great for on-the-fly dungeons that I've done before with my group.
Thanks! They're an awesome tool, thanks for watching!
I bought this today for 2.99 😮
Campain cases terrain ver2 needs 4 sets of dungeon tiles for caves, tundra, desert and dense jungle/forest to at least be considered potentially good.
I'd be nervous to purchase a second version. Thanks for watching and have a lichin' day!
I must say, between the DnD Cases, I thought the Creature Case slightly edged out. This Campaign Case is hilariously useless. Just get Heroquest and DND board games and wala, you got your environmental tiles and even a Start Tile :D!!!!!
Thanks for the review once more :D!
Nice to see you in the comments again Simoun! We agree that the creature case is the better value. At the very least those weighted discs feel like a premium product. Everything about the terrain case feels cheap. They're still using art assets from Fourth Edition! Charging almost $70 for this product is practically criminal...
@@BasicLiches I feel like that sums up the last few years of products WotC has given us for D&D!
I actually have the 3 core sets of dungeon tiles for 4th edition, then got the 3 reincarnated sets and..... you can't tell me they didn't intend for people to do that. The punched out tiles from each of the matching sets is a PERFECT fit to a single box, and once the slipcovers are off, the actual storage boxes are identical from the original releases and the reincarnated sets, and there's actually a lot of differences between the old and new versions. So..... yeah, I spent about $100 in total between the old sets and new sets, but it's insane what I can make with them all. As a test one time actually, I took just the 2 city sets and built an entire town that covered my table. Market, multiple buildings, a canal running through town with bridges going over it.... the works! It's honestly sad to see how bad this new version is compared to the old boxes of cardboard.
We want them to re-release more of the old 4th Edition sets. And the Monster Vault while they're at it!
I almost bought my kid the Campaign Case for Xmas. Found some discounted Reincarnated boxes instead. Thanks for the vid!!
Looking at this video with the campaign case (I got it for $30) in front of me wondering what to use the smaller tiles for besides different floors
Make a puzzle room with a giant pit and moveable platforms. Or you can use them as stein coasters.
I have a couple of the Dungeon Craft ones , lol ya it took me awhile to cut it all out! I love that they are super colorful, but being so glossy it can be hard for players to see what they are. I also bought a ton of Fantasy World Creator, I thought I would love it but they are to black and white. Also I had bought all the D&D games for the minis and it comes with dungeon tiles you could use also. I always have my battlemats out on my table so they are flat (we use these alot). When possible I like to put on the table a few small room/encounters with all the dressing too so they look good, not all the rooms are for fights, this way it gives the players something to look at during the game and I dont have to draw out or build the whole dungeon.
Thank you gentlemen from the UK. I’ve been returning to in person dnd post covid over the past couple of months and I’m looking to up my DM game with proper monster tokens. This was super helpful choosing my best option ( I went with patherfinder tokens don’t tell wotc)
Your secret is safe with us! Glad you found our video helpful!
Got Dungeon Craft because of this video. Subscribed!
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Now that these are showing up at discount stores like ollies, would you say it's worth the 5-10$ range it is now priced at?
The reincarnated sets is awesomesauce to a dungeon steak. Its actually worth ti buy 2x of city, wilderness and dungeon. Also theres one coming out in December.. in Norway, guess earlier in the US. Its called Tactical maps Reincarnated and contains:
"Best Of" samling er nøye utvalgt blant noen av de mest ettertraktede eventyrene i D&D-universet:
Tomb of Horrors (4th Ed)
Vor Rukoth (4th Ed)
Demon Queen's Enclave (4th Ed)
Death's Reach (4th Ed)
The Book of Vile Darkness (4th Ed)
Kingdom of the Ghouls (4th Ed)
Dungeon Master's Kit (4th Ed)
Orcs of Stonefang Pass (4th Ed)
Fields of Ruin (3rd Ed)
Gargantuan Blue Dragon (3rd Ed)
Vaults of the Underdark (4th Ed)
Legend of Drizzt Scenario Pack (3rd Ed)
Colossal Red Dragon (3rd Ed)
Red Hand of Doom (3rd Ed)
Hells yeah, can't wait for that! Thanks for watching and have a lichin' day!
I already have Tactical Maps Reincarnated from two years ago more or less are you talking about another new product with the same name?
@@JuanSewDLKS oh.. its the one you mention. Yeeeah, sry for that we umm get D&D stuff late here in the north
whats even funnier about the dungeon tiles reincarnated, is it's a carry over from 4th edition XD. Hell, if you could get a hold of those tilesets, you'd probably be even *more* impressed.
Exactly...it's crazy how they haven't come up with a better solution in over 15 years! At this point they should just re-release the rest of the 4th edition tile sets.
So i just got this and the creature set for 2.99 from ollies lmao
The Reincarnated set is just reprints of the older Dungeon Tile sets from 2006. That said in the 16 or so years sense they came out I only had one or two pieces go bad, spills at the game table happens. I have always said if they wanted to improve on them just make some of them interlocking and make the surface usable with markers. I don't see much use for bigger, all the same shape tiles.
It's kind of sad that they haven't come up with a better solution since 2006. Also, they're still using the same art assets. We understand why the reincarnated tiles have the same 4th edition art...but that's no excuse for the Terrain Case. It's supposed to be a brand new/premium product! Maybe we'll get some interlocking tiles with One DnD! Thanks for watching and for dropping us a comment.
@@BasicLiches I wouldn't hold my breath. Seems their virtual tabletop is what they are putting their effort into. What Wizards should do is focus on things that make the mobile DM Lives better with their already existing products. Like for example maybe have something a kin to a small parts bin. A backpack or side bag to hull around a book or two and a tablet. I am rather handy with a sewing machine to make my own bag and power tools to mod a small parts bin to fit my needs but not everyone is so blessed.
I just bought the Dungeon, City, and Wilderness Tiles all on sale for 50% off. If it wasn't for your review, I would never have known about them.
Happy to help Janice!
Great honest review. I bought the terrain case and was very disappointed with it as well. Have you subbed and like; looking forward to more D&D reviews!
Thanks so much JL. We've got more reviews coming! Stay tuned!
$2.99 at Ollie's right now. Maybe okay for that price 😂
Just picked up two of these bad boys at my local Ollie's for 2.99 a piece, at that price im more than happy with my purchase. My only regret is missing out on the creature set for the same price.
Oh my! Thanks for the video! I was about to order it to gift my hubby 😅, completely disappointed with the quality of it... The Reincarnated set seems the best option by far!
You're welcome Victor! Getting a wet erase battle mat and a couple of the reincarnated sets for the same price as the Terrain Case would be a smarter way to spend your money! Thanks for watching and dropping us a comment.
Thanks guys, you saved me AU$80! Instead of the Campaign case I purchase two of the Dungeon Tiles Reincarnated and one of the Dungeon Craft.
Yep, this is why I changed out WOTC Wizard RPG for Martin Knight D100 Dungeon products when I play awesome TTRPG Adventures!
We're living in a golden age of TTRPG goodness. The variety and sheer quantity of great games out there is staggering! Thanks for watching!
I am so glad to have found your reviews of the campaign cases. Being an aspiring GM in the process of putting together a basic GM kit, I could easily have fallen for these. I have been eying the battle mat books by Loke Battle Mats, do you have an opinion on those?
Do PAWNS!!! Love 5e but there are some great Pawn sets from Pathfinder that I use on a flat matt.
The dungeon tiles reincarnated are pretty solid but the prob is that you need 2-4 sets to actually make something that makes sense. They give you roughly half of what you need. The other problem is that they are shiny. Any well lit environment will produce glare on the tiles. The variety is great but grab two boxes or you will find yourself pulling your hair out trying to create what you want.
They can't be shinier or glossier than the tiles included in the Campaign Case Terrain lol. Those things are practically reflective! Grabbing multiple copies/sets of the Dungeon Tiles is probably a better idea than the campaign case. Thanks so much for watching! Is your avatar from the movie "31"? Wolf just watched that not too long ago!
@@BasicLiches it is! Not my favorite Rob Zombie flick but I loved the doom head character. I still use the monologue from the intro for some of my big bads. Especially lichs.
Nothing better than a lich who will "bless you with a story"
Love it! Bill Moseley rules! Wolf is a huge horror movie nut and is constantly stealing ideas from them for his games. Great minds think alike!
That retail price is funny i just picked up a couple of these for $2.99 a piece
Worth it at that price lol!
Great review. I just bought the reincarnated set And it’ s really cool. 👍🏻 thanks to you
Awesome! Glad we were able to assist, and steer you towards a better product! Have a lichin' day Frederic!
$2.99 at Ollie's
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! So much for this reveiw, been planing to buy these for a while now, and this video showed me that I shouldn't. And this helps me alot cause it's more expensive here in sweden cause of import etc so this case would had cost about 80-90bucks here, Gonna spend that money on the reincarnated tiles or the dungeon craft ones instead. Here have a like, and i'm subscribing asap. Much love! :D
Glad we could save you some money! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment!
I don’t know anything about dungeons and dragons, but I just got this for $3 at Ollie’s 😂
I literally just got back from Ollie’s with two 😂
I picked up two of each of these at Ollies recently. Priced at 2.99 lol. For 3 bucks each, whats not to love?
Why would you want the terrain clings to be opaque?? With the way they are now, they blend into the surroundings. Having white or black space around the edges and filling in gaps would look TERRIBLE. Honestly, just picturing that in my head looks cheap.
I do agree that they could have used more variety in the clings and tiles themselves. And the tiles don't even lock onto the large map if you needed it to for a huge area, they would look weird sitting next to each other if you needed to use both tile types.
I liked this video more than the Creature case video, keep it up!
They need to do something with the terrain clings, because they look very washed out the minute you attach them. Perhaps not opaque, but they certainly need to tweak the colors on them. We found them tremendously unsatisfying once they were placed on the tiles. In dim lighting, they would be very hard to see. They should sort of POP and be noticeable to everyone at the table. Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment John. We always appreciate it!
I believe that the tiles are not compatible with adventuring system tiles. That was a really lost chance. They could expand the tiles of the castle ravenloft, ashardalon etc boxes and the possibilities could be endless.
Tying them into those boardgames that DMs probably own would make too much sense lol. It seems like they wanted to create these two crates as a stand-alone ULTIMATE SOLUTION. They missed the mark pretty badly!
"It's like they didn't playtest it at all." Welcome to D&D Monetization Edition.
How did you make those tokens in the beginning of this video, they look awsome, where can I buy to circles?
I just bought the campaign and monster sets from Ollie’s for $3 and I’m still disappointed
You missed the part where the jiggy boards are dry erase btw.
For $65 absofuckinglutetly not.
For the $2.99 I got them from Ollie's for? An awesome, affordable way to play with my kids
Kinda glad it sucked so I could get it for cheap but wtaf for putting out a name brand product for that price
Is the sturdy black box with pull handle plastic or cardboard?
Got this on sale for $40 and i think its worth it at that price especially if its your first buy into Dungeon Making.
Thanks for saving me from picking one of those up . Even what they're sold for now $21
Gonna Brutally Honest hit that subscribe and bell button. I Brutally Honest liked your reviews.
Thanks so much Saul! We've got more reviews coming to the channel shortly!
What cameras do you guys use? How much (if any) color correction do you implement in post?
Your videos look great!
Hey Bill thanks for the compliment! We shoot with a Cannon EOS M50 and we rotate editing between the two of us every week. We shoot in relatively dim/soft light then boost shadows/hi-light in post as well as reducing some mid/detail to eliminate shine. Thanks for watching!
Thanks guys, saved me a lot of money.
Really appreciate the thorough breakdown, guys. Any thoughts about whether you could use wet or dry erase markers on the Dungeon Tiles Reincarnated? Our group was thinking about buying both this and Dungeon Craft (for the clings) for our DM for Christmas. Or do you think the tiles function so well you really wouldn't need markers? Thanks!
Dnd wise some of best starter sets for dm seem to be ashardalon/ravenholm/legend of drizzt board games. They all come with decent ammount of (mind you non-marker-compatible) tiles and minis plus some extra tokens you can repurpose for around 50-60 bucks. For beginner as far as im concerned they are far better deal.
That sounds great Amdor, we'll have to take a look at those! Thanks for watching!