Cons are pretty well covered. Pros: the locking tiles open up some irregular dungeon layouts compared to a chessex mat (my usual way to run combat). Also allows room by room fog of war without shuffling papers around the map to expose/hide areas. The cling decos allow some manipulation of objects, fix more securely than cardstock, look nicer than my drawing, and don't make elevation changes that make minis and counters unstable. Seems like minor upgrade if you already have a battlemat or tiles, not unreasonable if you price out a big mat and the time/effort to make the decos yourself out of cardstock, and a nice box to store it all in. Biggest question is if they are going to support these and the creature sheets with new or replacement decals. That is the real value added element.
Seems about right for the price. The snap together tiles are not a common type of battlemap, and will run you about ~40 bucks. The clings, bigger board, and storage make it worth while. Clings let you prepare the tiles ahead of time, revealing each snap tile as they explore.
I would make the argument that you could prep your terrain and then collapse them with the adhesive rather than needing to place your tokens again. This was the only product from this product line i am considering as I will be playing in person soon
Any cheaper alternative for those puzzle-like pieces of terrain? Those might be fantastic to build dungeons as the party moves along and reduces the "fog of war".
I would have preferred cardboard accessories instead of stickers, but I guess they must've been cheaper? Something similar to the dungeon tiles box they used to do. I guess they want to try something new and see if it sticks. But really I think Pathfinder has the winning formula on cheap accessories to be fair.
I never bought into terrain props and such, why should I drop 65 on this when I could just get a chessex mat and a few markers? I could have been interested if they put some miniatures in this (I found out that they are becoming difficult to find locally) but just a box of tiles is not worth it in my opinion.
A little off topic, but I never understood why WOC never published all kinds of character/creature pawns (like Pathfinder did, which was a cash cow for them) which would make things WAY more affordable for players. I guess it might cut into their profits from sales of their minis, but otherwise I think they're missing out on a lot of potential sales. Edit: I initially made my comment prior to watching your vid, lol. Seems you came to the same conclusion.
so glad they didn't do pawns, very cheap, I have some 2d minis, that are clear. I like the idea of the terrain, but I have a ton of tokens that do same things as clings and big mats
@@Thegaminggang lol, the sarcasm is strong. I will admit I was only thinking about my preferences as a consumer of content, and not the relationships with publishers that help you to deliver said content. I do appreciate the reply.
Honestly, this kind of stuff is cool if you’re making your own stuff, and you design your maps around the terrain you have. But if you’re trying to do published adventures, you can never get things to fit right.
yeah i know that from my experience as someone who's a bit rough with their gear, these would not last at all. at least with the wizkids 2D tokens that are acrylic they're more durable.
Yeah. This set is just a competitive Product. It’s meant to be a challenge against the LOKE Terrain people who came out with their Box of Adventure set. And honestly they got much better line of Terrain stuff for much cheaper.
The box of adventure is really nice not super thick but perfectly serviceable and it has an artistic style, elevations, walls. There are different tiles for caves, dungeon halls and different ruins, hills and forest roads as opposed to what we have here green splodgy or grey.
I'm right with you as far as Theaterof the Mind. I never use minis, although I'm a huge fan of painting them and using them in miniatures games. ~ Jeff
This is …..underwhelming. Not buying this. The tiles are so boring and the clings are a straight rip-off of what Loke Battlemaps have been producing for years, they actually work really well as they stay on the map until you want to pull them off, unlike tokens that slide around in play. Take a look at Loke’s stuff you’re better off with their Books of Battlemats which have 80 different maps in each set, then use some clings to spruce them up (or draw directly on them with markers)
I'm sorta split on this... The presentation is nice and this would be a wonderful way for a new DM to get terrain. Yet, the price is a bit steep. And I do have concerns about the longevity of the clings. Ah well, I usually prefer "Theater of the Mind" style gaming. And the few times I don't, my Chessex wet erase map is more than enough to get the job done!
Wow! I did not expect it to be so bad. You literally have one bridge but nothing to cross with it. No water, no gully in fact no three D aspects at all. There are nowhere near enough trees to make a forest and there is nothing to make a path. And no walls in your dungeon, no buildings in your urban setting which is absolutely identical to your Dungeon. If you want everywhere you got to be flat boring and the same as the place you went to last week this is the set for you. So so bad. Thank you for showing us everything, I think you could have tried applying and removing a cling to see how easily they come up, but it doesn't really matter I've seen enough.
ya'll really don't understand what this product is. its a lighter, more convenient alternative to the cardboard sets. those carboard sets are alot heavier, take up way more space and are a pain in the ass to transport. this case is clearly for the dm on the go hence the name "case" the I have colorform stickers (which is the exact same thing as clings) from the 80's that still work perfect. I think this is a great product. damn, the older DND community really loves to complain about everything nowadays huh?
It’s definitely personal preference, but it’s clear this box was created as a Competitive Product against the LOKE Battle Maps and Box of Adventure Products. Which are far Cheaper than this 70 dollar box.
Compared to the box of adventure this is way way more boring but it does have a handle and more things you can stick on. If you don't want water walls or enough trees to make a small wood it's fine I guess
Complete rip-off. That’s what I see here. WOTC is making bank ever since Stranger Things and Critical Role made it all “new” again. There is a way to keep something great, like D&D, going without having to go this route. Shameful.
I picked up 2 sets at Ollie’s department store for 2.99 each. I thought that was an excellent price for the content
Glad to see I'm not the only one who did that just to watch reviews on them lol
I just got the two sets today. $3 bucks each, even if you don't fully use them, it's D&D and 6 bucks.
Great video, would have been good to see the stickers in action though.
Cons are pretty well covered. Pros: the locking tiles open up some irregular dungeon layouts compared to a chessex mat (my usual way to run combat). Also allows room by room fog of war without shuffling papers around the map to expose/hide areas. The cling decos allow some manipulation of objects, fix more securely than cardstock, look nicer than my drawing, and don't make elevation changes that make minis and counters unstable.
Seems like minor upgrade if you already have a battlemat or tiles, not unreasonable if you price out a big mat and the time/effort to make the decos yourself out of cardstock, and a nice box to store it all in.
Biggest question is if they are going to support these and the creature sheets with new or replacement decals. That is the real value added element.
Seems about right for the price. The snap together tiles are not a common type of battlemap, and will run you about ~40 bucks. The clings, bigger board, and storage make it worth while. Clings let you prepare the tiles ahead of time, revealing each snap tile as they explore.
I would make the argument that you could prep your terrain and then collapse them with the adhesive rather than needing to place your tokens again. This was the only product from this product line i am considering as I will be playing in person soon
$65 is expensive for such few terrain pieces.
Agreed. I *might* buy it for $19.99
@@deploribusrex4480 Can you tell me where you buy it?
They could be worth it if I find them at a reduced price, the moment the theater of the mind has been more than enough for me
Any cheaper alternative for those puzzle-like pieces of terrain? Those might be fantastic to build dungeons as the party moves along and reduces the "fog of war".
look up Dry Erase Dungeon Tiles by Role 4 Initiative
@@flammableghost spot on! thanks for the tip.
Adventuring system boxes (Castle Ravenloft, Wrath of Ashardalon...)
Check out the terrain pieces that 1985 Games makes.
I would have preferred cardboard accessories instead of stickers, but I guess they must've been cheaper? Something similar to the dungeon tiles box they used to do. I guess they want to try something new and see if it sticks. But really I think Pathfinder has the winning formula on cheap accessories to be fair.
I never bought into terrain props and such, why should I drop 65 on this when I could just get a chessex mat and a few markers? I could have been interested if they put some miniatures in this (I found out that they are becoming difficult to find locally) but just a box of tiles is not worth it in my opinion.
A little off topic, but I never understood why WOC never published all kinds of character/creature pawns (like Pathfinder did, which was a cash cow for them) which would make things WAY more affordable for players. I guess it might cut into their profits from sales of their minis, but otherwise I think they're missing out on a lot of potential sales. Edit: I initially made my comment prior to watching your vid, lol. Seems you came to the same conclusion.
In my country this set costs 131 USD due to taxes and the creatures set costs 173 USD, crazy 😔
Do the clings stick to the older Dungeon Tiles Reincarnated?
so glad they didn't do pawns, very cheap, I have some 2d minis, that are clear. I like the idea of the terrain, but I have a ton of tokens that do same things as clings and big mats
I’m not sure we really needed you to read the ad copy on the box. Showing us what was in the box is more accurate than the advertisement.
Amazingly enough, publishers appreciate when I read the back of their boxes. ~ Jeff
@@Thegaminggang lol, the sarcasm is strong. I will admit I was only thinking about my preferences as a consumer of content, and not the relationships with publishers that help you to deliver said content. I do appreciate the reply.
Honestly, this kind of stuff is cool if you’re making your own stuff, and you design your maps around the terrain you have. But if you’re trying to do published adventures, you can never get things to fit right.
That is true. And it’s pretty upsetting for me at times :(
yeah i know that from my experience as someone who's a bit rough with their gear, these would not last at all. at least with the wizkids 2D tokens that are acrylic they're more durable.
Yeah. This set is just a competitive Product. It’s meant to be a challenge against the LOKE Terrain people who came out with their Box of Adventure set. And honestly they got much better line of Terrain stuff for much cheaper.
The box of adventure is really nice not super thick but perfectly serviceable and it has an artistic style, elevations, walls. There are different tiles for caves, dungeon halls and different ruins, hills and forest roads as opposed to what we have here green splodgy or grey.
I do not like the static cling concept at all. It looks like a lot to fiddle with and I can't imagine they'll last long
All about Theatre of the Mind.
"Crack this case!" LOL just got that.
Hey, still sipping on my Sanka...
I'm right with you as far as Theaterof the Mind. I never use minis, although I'm a huge fan of painting them and using them in miniatures games. ~ Jeff
I don't really get this product... Why both terrain tiles and boards?
Seems expensive for what you get.
This is …..underwhelming. Not buying this. The tiles are so boring and the clings are a straight rip-off of what Loke Battlemaps have been producing for years, they actually work really well as they stay on the map until you want to pull them off, unlike tokens that slide around in play. Take a look at Loke’s stuff you’re better off with their Books of Battlemats which have 80 different maps in each set, then use some clings to spruce them up (or draw directly on them with markers)
I'm sorta split on this...
The presentation is nice and this would be a wonderful way for a new DM to get terrain.
Yet, the price is a bit steep. And I do have concerns about the longevity of the clings.
Ah well, I usually prefer "Theater of the Mind" style gaming. And the few times I don't, my Chessex wet erase map is more than enough to get the job done!
Yeah, I think I'd prefer cardboard punch-outs rather than "Colorforms" clings.
$20 for this on a big Amazon sale today. I just want the box! haha
$3 at Ollie’s right now
I pre-ordered from Amazon for $45 and that is still way too expensive....
Would have been nice to see how the clings pop from the sheet and how well they aplly to the board.
Also, how well do the tiles clip together?
I exclusively use theatre of the mind when running game, but it's cool for those who are into it I guess.
Colorforms are a neat idea, But not for $65.
Just bought this and the creatures case as well for my son
Thats some expensive cardboard for a game about imagination.
Wow! I did not expect it to be so bad. You literally have one bridge but nothing to cross with it. No water, no gully in fact no three D aspects at all. There are nowhere near enough trees to make a forest and there is nothing to make a path. And no walls in your dungeon, no buildings in your urban setting which is absolutely identical to your Dungeon. If you want everywhere you got to be flat boring and the same as the place you went to last week this is the set for you. So so bad.
Thank you for showing us everything, I think you could have tried applying and removing a cling to see how easily they come up, but it doesn't really matter I've seen enough.
ya'll really don't understand what this product is. its a lighter, more convenient alternative to the cardboard sets. those carboard sets are alot heavier, take up way more space and are a pain in the ass to transport. this case is clearly for the dm on the go hence the name "case" the I have colorform stickers (which is the exact same thing as clings) from the 80's that still work perfect. I think this is a great product. damn, the older DND community really loves to complain about everything nowadays huh?
It’s definitely personal preference, but it’s clear this box was created as a Competitive Product against the LOKE Battle Maps and Box of Adventure Products. Which are far Cheaper than this 70 dollar box.
100% agree with you, i have this and is a great on the go product, quick set up
Compared to the box of adventure this is way way more boring but it does have a handle and more things you can stick on. If you don't want water walls or enough trees to make a small wood it's fine I guess
Well, I got it for 29.99 so for me it wasn’t that expensive for what it is :)
$65 is a total ripoff.....but I just picked it up on an Amazon special for $20 for the battle map and tiles.
WotC has been laughing all the way to the bank.
Too bad theres a disappointing number of clings and too much of those same-y tiles.
That suck BASICly the last 2 dungeon boxes in one
Complete rip-off. That’s what I see here. WOTC is making bank ever since Stranger Things and Critical Role made it all “new” again. There is a way to keep something great, like D&D, going without having to go this route. Shameful.
Dungeon craft has way more for only 50$. No way I’d buy this shit
Would have liked to actually see the host use a cling or two to see how they stick.. but honestly the product is absolutely not for me anyway so.
The dungeon tiles from 3.5 and 4e were muche better than this, also they just recycle the artwork from those tiles, its better just to buy those tiles
How bitterly disappointing
No care or love envolved at all. Poor product.