Aaliyah and Jay Z (Deep Dive) 💎❗🤔

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2022
  • My reaction to Aaliyah and Jay Z's friendship and the scandal it still causes. From Damon Dash to Beyonce and more, there's much to discuss. Let me know your thoughts down below. Please don't forget to comment, like and subscribe. Thank You!!!
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  • @TonyTurner
    @TonyTurner  Рік тому +35

    Sign the Aaliyah Petition here: www.change.org/p/aaliyah-s-induction-to-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame?US%3A4&recruiter=363813320&recruited_by_id=ea3e8ff0-46e2-11e5-aecc-91a6616d0fce&share_bandit_exp=initial-33231034-en-US

    • @saybrittaney
      @saybrittaney Рік тому +2

      I just signed. Thanks for another great deep dive Aaliyah video ❤ I love this channel !!

    • @taramashups
      @taramashups Рік тому +2

      I didn’t know about this so I just signed! Thanks for posting the link!! I really hope she gets in soon!

    • @markellecorley872
      @markellecorley872 Рік тому +1

      I most certainly will she is my idol!

    • @jesusisking120
      @jesusisking120 Рік тому +2

      i just signed but i cant believe we have to do this. this is something that shouldve been done! Aaliyah deserves better

    • @planetzing
      @planetzing Рік тому +2

      thanks for sharing

  • @tashahall1855
    @tashahall1855 Рік тому +239

    I never understood why sum ppl try to tarnish Aaliyah's name based on gossip. Even if Aaliyah got down , so what the girl was 22 in her prime , and having fun. At least she had a career on the up and up. Most ppl still living off their parents at that age with no direction.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +24

      Speak on it ‼👀

    • @iamtracywilson
      @iamtracywilson Рік тому +30

      I agree but I think it's because her mom, her uncle, R Kelly, and Damon Dash... it's just a lot of sexual stuff going on with her way before she was 22. Plus Jay Z (especially back then) didn't have the best reputation either. I don't think they should trash anybody, she has passed so let her rest in peace. It doesn't matter, let her music be her true legacy.

    • @idanceforthestars
      @idanceforthestars Рік тому +2

      @@iamtracywilson ok now

    • @misterbee66
      @misterbee66 Рік тому +1

      Exactly. I agree wholeheartedly.

    • @carlbanks5034
      @carlbanks5034 Рік тому +1

      Right

  • @Valender_88
    @Valender_88 Рік тому +101

    I think the main issue is when people talk about her innocence is due to the fact we’re not used to a celebrity of Aaliyah’s caliber that treated everyone she met with respect and made to feel they were not below her. As someone else said in the comments, she was private she never claimed to be anything else but herself. Even when people tried to come for her for not writing her songs she literally said she had writers she was more than transparent about that. Tell me how many artists in todays world are so open about having writers I’ll wait.

    • @damyanthelion
      @damyanthelion Рік тому +2

      That’s it, Aaliyah’s so called “innocence” stemmed from the fact she was a sweet person who treated those around her well. The narrative that she was fake nice, as though she was a saccharine, cookie cutter artist with a nice girl image only, is a recent revision of history.
      It’s literally based on nothing of substance.., no evidence whatsoever. Today it seems like all it takes is a misinformation based Twitter “Hot Take” from a Gen Z’er who wasn’t even alive at the time, to go viral and it’s then treated as factual information thereafter🤦🏽‍♂️
      Aaliyah’s public image was edgy, smooth and subtly sexy. This began in AANBAN (independent of the mess involving You Know Who) and remained all the way through to the Red Album. Brandy, Britney, Beyoncé and early Xtina had those “America Sweetheart” problems, not Aaliyah💯

  • @hsmathis
    @hsmathis Рік тому +89

    I don’t care who “hit it first”, she died in a very tragic accident and her family, friends and fans loved her. I appreciate the focus on her contributions to the entertainment world and that’s all that matters. She is greatly missed!

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +7

      ‼‼‼

    • @musiclover-cn7tb
      @musiclover-cn7tb 11 місяців тому

      exactly 💯 that makes no sense to say that but whenever women in the industry were constantly photographed with someone here comes the lies.

  • @aamia3769
    @aamia3769 Рік тому +160

    I hate when people say, “She acted innocent.” No, she didn't want us in her business. Aaliyah did not seem conservative with her sex appeal or singing sexually charged songs. So, to me, that says she did not act innocent she was just private. She was just herself.

    • @nasirwest6502
      @nasirwest6502 Рік тому +14

      U said it best 💯… she was definitely a private person and didn’t want personal business out there..

    • @ourforeverbabygirl22
      @ourforeverbabygirl22 Рік тому +3

      THANK YOU 💯

    • @hsmathis
      @hsmathis Рік тому +6

      I agree. I don’t think she “acted” any kind of way. She was private and didn’t have the need to be in the news. Gotta respect that about her.

    • @musiclover-cn7tb
      @musiclover-cn7tb 11 місяців тому +1

      she gave us sexy in an innocent way rock the boat was a sensual video but Aaliyah kept her classy.

  • @stormc14
    @stormc14 Рік тому +58

    Aaliyah and Jay Z was only friends and the hung out but it never went farther then that. Aaliyah was a friendly personality. She was a great woman. She was beyond beautiful and the mens did wanted her but does mean she wanted them

  • @TerrellFuller973
    @TerrellFuller973 Рік тому +104

    That 4.0 GPA thing is hard to do, she still gets my props to this day. In terms of the discussion, looks and having the IT factor played a major role in scrutiny over her love life. If she was unattractive by society standards, along with making major noise in the industry at such a young age, no one would/would've cared.

  • @sexyeyez2000
    @sexyeyez2000 Рік тому +91

    Aaliyah changed the entire music game and she was a hard worker 🎉❤🎉❤🎉

    • @artsypearls4270
      @artsypearls4270 Рік тому +7

      I never clicked a link so fast!! BG deserves it period!! Tony I love you for caring so much🥺💕 /•\

    • @damyanthelion
      @damyanthelion Рік тому +10

      I think even more than a hard worker, Aaliyah was a smart worker. In my opinion that’s how she was able to leave such an indelible mark in such a short space of time. There is zero filler in her catalogue💯

  • @blessed3862
    @blessed3862 Рік тому +78

    Aaliyah also needs a ⭐ on the Hollywood walk of Fame as well.

  • @DzignrGrl
    @DzignrGrl Рік тому +83

    Tony, you need to win some kind of award for your very thoughtful, honest, goodhearted and super-well researched videos!!! Thank you so much for honoring Aaliyah as the artist. When she was alive making beautiful music and excelling her career into movies, I was so enthralled with her talent and beauty. I saw the purity in her and her good character, who knew how to have just the right amount of fun. I NEVER even thought about her personal life when she was alive! I just knew about her family and glam squad. Her craft, her voice and style was enough to hold my attention!

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +9

      Thank You ‼🤩

    • @Pheistyherbalist
      @Pheistyherbalist Рік тому +4

      Agreed!!!!

    • @soulstar9603
      @soulstar9603 Рік тому +2

      I agree!

    • @musiclover-cn7tb
      @musiclover-cn7tb 11 місяців тому

      I didn't like that book about her called babygirl .

    • @DzignrGrl
      @DzignrGrl 11 місяців тому

      @@musiclover-cn7tb There were definitely some things in that book that I question.

  • @TheNumeroUno
    @TheNumeroUno Рік тому +72

    Like Dame Said "Everybody wanted Aaliyah" She was having an amazing time feeling her way around seeing who she wanted to give that special opportunity and Dame won! I loved them together she always looked so happy. She was Detroit, too real for a superficial relationship. Same as me.

  • @noranjoku7651
    @noranjoku7651 Рік тому +73

    “If there was anything Jay-Z hit it was his fist against the wall when Aaliyah friend zoned him” 😂😂😂 I’m crying that was too funny and so genuinely true! People really be fascinated with babygirl’s private life/love life to come up with such detailed fantasies 😅

  • @britbritnicole9211
    @britbritnicole9211 Рік тому +33

    I’ve heard people say that Beyoncé stole Jay from Aaliyah, and I think that’s ridiculous. She didn’t even like him like that. A lot of guys liked Aaliyah. That doesn’t mean she got around. We tend to put that title on women more than men. It’s a double standard.

    • @Igboman87
      @Igboman87 Рік тому +2

      That's a first, haven't heard that one before!

    • @simplylavaly1051
      @simplylavaly1051 2 місяці тому

      I really want to know why people keep insulting Jay-Z in all of the years he has been famous he has never disrespected Aaliyah or Dame! He made an Aaliyah tribute and even said “dame is missing you..” so he didn’t at all sound bitter. Dame is going to say a lot of negative things because him and Jay aren’t friends anymore so he would find anything to trash him but what I don’t get it peoples anger towards Jay-z when he has shown public respect for both Aaliyah and Dame. Jay has only showed interest in Beyonce for as long as he’s been famous, there’s no record of him trying to settle down pre Beyonce. Even just off his songs Big pimping, Girls Girls Girls.. Jay-Z was a player and loving it before Beyonce Knowles came around.

  • @Dtown1996
    @Dtown1996 Рік тому +39

    Jay z lowkey playa hated Dame Dash for bagging Aaliyah

  • @nicolesherman8974
    @nicolesherman8974 Рік тому +43

    My unpopular opinion is this: Although Jay Z and Aaliyah had a tight bond before her passing, I can’t look over the fact that he worked with her abuser. People in the industry keep saying how much they miss her, while still aligning themselves with a predator. It’s weird..

    • @ArtisanWindchimes
      @ArtisanWindchimes Рік тому +5

      Nas, Jadakiss, Snoop etc all worked with Kells. Doesn’t mean anything. You probably worked with some shady characters in your lifetime yourself.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +8

      Interesting observation ‼

    • @hassani4038
      @hassani4038 Рік тому +2

      true but aaliyah still was friends with all of them. so maybe she didn’t really cared about r kelly and focused on herself

    • @tinalynch9283
      @tinalynch9283 Рік тому +4

      And that could b another reason why she didn't won't jay!!

    • @kaylabey
      @kaylabey Рік тому +4

      i thought about this the other day. not only him, but all the other people who claimed to love aaliyah and still collaborate with kelly. smh.

  • @BklynBabe
    @BklynBabe Рік тому +32

    Aaliyah was pulling guys with pure beauty and personality, she didn't need tons of makeup or a big behind. 👍🏾❤️ No wonder so many men still think of her to this day...

    • @SOULarLioness
      @SOULarLioness Рік тому +2

      SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE LURKERS AND THE HATERS!

  • @nakiyahlaney8739
    @nakiyahlaney8739 Рік тому +13

    I love Aaliyah so much. The way I see it is that Aaliyah is like that woman that every man wants but can't have so they resort to creating lies or fantasies about her. ❤️

  • @MichaelErnest666
    @MichaelErnest666 Рік тому +50

    I Also Believe That Aaliyah Would Have Had A Masters Degree At This Point In Her Life... 🎓

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +18

      Me too ‼ Aaliyah took her studies seriously

    • @adrienneroxanne9833
      @adrienneroxanne9833 Рік тому +15

      Yes! She said when her career slowed down a bit she was gonna go to college. NYU

    • @Igboman87
      @Igboman87 Рік тому +3

      Aww, yeah I can see that; Babygirl had brains & beauty.

  • @WO2411
    @WO2411 Рік тому +24

    Everybody wanted Aaliyah💯 who wouldn’t, but can we talk about how Blackground records still haven’t sent out Vinyls and it’s been over a year

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +4

      That's crazy ‼ I know I got mine from Amazon in 2 days

    • @WO2411
      @WO2411 Рік тому +2

      @@TonyTurner Its actually Insane bro they literally scamming people 😭

  • @ASMRMagic
    @ASMRMagic Рік тому +14

    Thank you for making so many videos on Aaliyah, it’s nice to still hear about her in 2022! She was such a beautiful talented lady and her passing was so tragic, I couldn’t believe it when I heard the news as a young teen. I wonder where she would be today had she lived, I’m still sad about it and wish they hadn’t gotten on that crappy little plane 😢

  • @sexyeyez2000
    @sexyeyez2000 Рік тому +22

    Aaliyah was naturally sexy and flirty and very attractive and people assume things about you, when you are that girl. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @kellihart3885
    @kellihart3885 Рік тому +14

    JayZ and Aaliyah were friends.Dame even said that Jay was crushing on Aaliyah..Most of the men in the industry were intrigued,and attracted to her.Aaliyah was ONE IN A MILLION..

  • @classicstorm
    @classicstorm Рік тому +39

    I was all here for the petition for her mac collection but now there is a petition for everything, and I was like Nah let her work speak for itself. When the time comes, they are going to recognize her. Still, after a while, I'm like, we need these for a reason because they really gloss over her like she didn't change the game of RnB with only three albums, so I'm signing everything that I can...thanks for providing the link because I didn't even know about this...

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +7

      Of course ‼ it can really make a difference

  • @sexythicknj
    @sexythicknj Рік тому +19

    OMG!!! Perfectly stated. If you look at the pictures with Aaliyah and Jay, she’s NEVER up close and personal. Aaliyah definitely friend him. Can’t NOBODY come out and say they hit it (Aaliyah). I feel like after her heart was broken from R Kelly, Aaliyah never laid down with anyone until maybe her love Damon. I can go on and on but they better let my girl Aaliyah rest and stop coming for Queen Beyoncé. It would’ve been Queen Ashanti but that label scandal was her downfall

  • @warrenaray
    @warrenaray Рік тому +12

    I think that Aaliyah would’ve been the bigger movie star. I think she would’ve had a career like Will smith and Queen Latifah. She would’ve had a perfume, clothing line and a sitcom. Also, Aaliyah and Beyoncé would’ve became best friends because of Dame and Jay.

    • @joyce_ribeiro03
      @joyce_ribeiro03 Рік тому +1

      I think so too. she would have been huge in the music/movie industry in my opinion. aaliyah was also becoming good friends with beyoncé before she passed away and beyoncé has paid tribute to her multiple times these last few years.

  • @oneandonlynitarosedale7582
    @oneandonlynitarosedale7582 Рік тому +36

    Aaliyah would definitely appreciate this video. You have said what needed to be said.

  • @g_s_g9658
    @g_s_g9658 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much 🙏🏼🙏🏼❤❤❤ That you talk good about her 😍 THANK YOU ❤❤❤❤

  • @idanceforthestars
    @idanceforthestars Рік тому +2

    1:22 THANK YOU

  • @MissRooti
    @MissRooti Рік тому +15

    Hello this is your UA-cam Aunty. Thank you for always positively defending Aaliyah being that a lot of people won't let her rest in peace. I once heard that "when people don't know they lie" (and make up stuff). Thank you for keeping her legacy in a positive light. For what it's worth even if she was all the horrible things that people tried to make her out to be; like who cares? She is deceased; like they need to put some respect on her name in death! I will be signing the petition. Stay Blessed and Safe nephew!

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +8

      Thank You ‼

    • @MissRooti
      @MissRooti Рік тому +5

      @@TonyTurner You are welcome! #petition signed

  • @JuliaBoateng
    @JuliaBoateng Рік тому +9

    😂😂11:55 had me dying. Ahhh another great video Tony, especially the bit about Ashanti! Ashanti was the top artist at that time, the timelines didn’t even add up. Thank you for all your research man! 🤍

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +1

      Julia ‼ EXACTLY 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

  • @andrebatchelor3044
    @andrebatchelor3044 Рік тому +7

    when you said "Remember When Beyonce Standing There Like Mannequin" that sent me yall lol , but i liked this video alot , you spoke alot of facts

  • @ooshaunteinreallifeoo__1693
    @ooshaunteinreallifeoo__1693 Рік тому +27

    I take pics like this all the time but I’m not screwing every guy I take pics with. People just hate her because she’s the most beautiful woman that’s recognized. Just because she was so beautiful doesn’t mean she was a hot mess. A lot of woman do not roll like that just because they in a damn pic with a dude. 🙄❤️

  • @dillondillster
    @dillondillster Рік тому +3

    you know what,,i like you. you have a great personality bro

  • @heygurl2712
    @heygurl2712 Рік тому +14

    To be 2 decades following her death and for her beauty to still shine so bright 🌞 and relevant to today's images of beauty, Aaliyah will always be One in a Million. I be hearing girls trying to sound like her in interviews it's amazing

  • @toniteaCAFE
    @toniteaCAFE Рік тому +6

    I HEAR YOU , but us older folks know better jay-z had to learn to look at beyonce they way he looked at aaliyah .

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +2

      ‼👀

    • @Speakup117
      @Speakup117 Рік тому +2

      Yesss yesss yesss yessssss

    • @simplylavaly1051
      @simplylavaly1051 2 місяці тому

      I really want to know why people keep insulting Jay-Z in all of the years he has been famous he has never disrespected Aaliyah or Dame! He made an Aaliyah tribute and even said “dame is missing you..” so he didn’t at all sound bitter. Dame is going to say a lot of negative things because him and Jay aren’t friends anymore so he would find anything to trash him but what I don’t get it peoples anger towards Jay-z when he has shown public respect for both Aaliyah and Dame. Jay has only showed interest in Beyonce for as long as he’s been famous, there’s no record of him trying to settle down pre Beyonce. Even just off his songs Big pimping, Girls Girls Girls, Money,Cash, H0es , there’s even a interview on here of saying that he’s never been in love with MTV news, didn’t seem like he was looking for love at the time either, Jay-Z was a player and loving it before Beyonce Knowles came around.

  • @LiloMorton
    @LiloMorton Рік тому +6

    Beyond proud of your channel but mostly of you, i wish we had the luxury to know how she felt about her fans in the current time. How long & how hard everyone rides fa her.
    She is truly and angel. God bless you Tony!

  • @anthonywest7583
    @anthonywest7583 Рік тому +2

    BRILLIANT COMMENTARY.

  • @clarissawestbrook2203
    @clarissawestbrook2203 Рік тому +12

    We should be focused on Aaliyah's incredible accomplishments in music, acting, modeling, beauty etc. Also how she graduated high school with a 4.0 G.P.A. and how she was the youngest performer in Oscars history etc. You made a great point when it comes to my favorite artists I want to focus on their artistry and future projects and not their personal lives. We all have to help get Aaliyah in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!!!! This was another insightful video Tony. 🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @shaneej.4191
    @shaneej.4191 Рік тому +17

    You’re so wise beyond your years. I thought you were my age (34) or older. You’re about my sister’s age 27. I highly appreciate your love and genuineness about Aaliyah. It’s so refreshing to hear. I’m so sick of the “Aaliyah hate” on twitter it’s ridiculously disgusting, they don’t care about her fans, her friends and FAMILY. Again THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK!!!!
    Omg!!! I forgot about the Jay-Z remix of Miss You.

  • @marcusharris7911
    @marcusharris7911 Рік тому +9

    Glad u touched on this, I vaguely remember before she passed she had that rep of being a “pass around” when in all honestly she was just naturally HAPPY & Friendly . Like u said nobody knows what really went down behind closed doors but that’s just my take on. Hell for all we know Dame probably took that pic and purposely made them pose in that conflicting way just for kicks and giggles. My gosh ..

  • @mermaidbabe2122
    @mermaidbabe2122 Рік тому +11

    Aaliyah was a such beautiful and loving person, I never saw her in a negative light. I’ve always been a fan of hers R.I.P baby girl.

  • @idanceforthestars
    @idanceforthestars Рік тому +1

    7:24 EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY

  • @Birdie319
    @Birdie319 Рік тому +8

    Dame dash confessed in a interview that Aaliyah only saw Jay as a friend and that when He(Dame)started dating Aaliyah she made him wait a long time before they were intimate(6months). He said she wasn't the type that give it up quickly. Aaliyah was known for being a affectionate person.. there is pictures of her holding hands with her brother plenty of times. She was everyone's baby bear, sort of speak. Even her best friend Quincy Jones daughter she held hands with her....that's who she was.. She loved People.

  • @swirlgang2355
    @swirlgang2355 Рік тому +3

    New subbed here. Love the content

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому

      Thank You ‼

    • @swirlgang2355
      @swirlgang2355 Рік тому +1

      Yes I am here for it all. Love the positive approach you took with talking about aliyah.. I will always support good content and im a small youtuber myself so I know how much the support means...thanks for your hard work

  • @startrakambassador3632
    @startrakambassador3632 Рік тому +16

    *"The only thing passed around about Aaliyah was those multi-platinum albums"*
    And that right there was some fax 😂📠
    I love that ♥️
    But yeah, I feel like things like this will never change, a lot of people will continue to do this with a lot of artists in the music industry. The biggest one right now imo is the "rumored" relationship with Chloe Bailey and the rapper Gunna. It feels like fans love to already think these artists are having affairs on the low, when really we don't know the full contexts or details about her relationship.
    I appreciate the fact that Aaliyah remained mostly private throughout her career, whereas most artists nowadays are starting to become lil bit too open. Luckily Bey is one of the few artists left to be completely private.
    Anyways, great video, Tony 🔥

  • @aureliajoypae4596
    @aureliajoypae4596 Рік тому +9

    Hey Tony! Thanks for making another great Aaliyah's video. This topic really needed to be talked about. Aaliyah always been very secretive about her dating life but I never believed that gossip about Jay-Z, or Ginuwine or DMX. She was beautiful and a lot of her male friends were in love with her even Timberland. She choose Damon Dash and in my humble opinion he wasn't the right person for her... it's Important to remember Aaliyah as a great entertainer, a trend setter. 🥺

  • @D.Y.M.159
    @D.Y.M.159 Рік тому +2

    New subscriber 🤗

  • @sexyeyez2000
    @sexyeyez2000 Рік тому +13

    Ashanti would have been that girl if Murder Inc would have never fell off

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +3

      She would've done so much more ‼🔥

  • @laaaa010
    @laaaa010 Рік тому +1

    Thank you!!!!!

  • @Redd91ful
    @Redd91ful Рік тому +2

    2:42 😂😂😂I love you for that

  • @UnreleasedUnderratedRnBgrooves

    One thing to note too Tony that according to The New York Post back in May 2000, Jay accompanied Aaliyah during a spa meeting she had with Janet Jackson & Missy Elliott. I wonder if that meeting was about the once-rumored “Nasty 2000” collab or some other recording.

  • @kekemola1475
    @kekemola1475 Рік тому +4

    This video mannnn!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 that's real talk bro the hype over celebs personal lives is toooo overrated and just Weird🙄😑. Thanks for this video 🖤

  • @Igboman87
    @Igboman87 Рік тому +2

    Great video T! It irks me that people still believe and spread misinformation about Aaliyah & Jay-Z. I wish people with major influence who speak on this topic would be more responsible with their messages. Jaguar Wright is a perfect example of this. I've watched two recent videos with her flat-out saying Liyah was in a sexual relationship with both Jay and R. Kelly. Any true Aaliyah fan knows that is untrue. With your inquisitive nature and loyalty as a fan, you should consider doing a video about the conspiracy of certain artists having something to do with Aaliyah's death. I have my take on it.

  • @lynettebrown91
    @lynettebrown91 Рік тому +5

    Yes see it all the time I’m like come on let it go !

  • @latenighthub
    @latenighthub Рік тому +13

    if i could be a fly on the wall at diddys parties 😂

  • @YusukeKnight
    @YusukeKnight Рік тому +4

    Good discussion

  • @Colorz.
    @Colorz. Рік тому +22

    I’ve always felt the disrespect of Aaliyah in regards to Bey came from her being around Jay.
    No other woman he actually dated before Bey got the heat Aaliyah got.
    I love how you broke this down. And I love how the media made everyone her love interest except her 🤣
    Goes to show you how they expect men to always make the decision to be with a woman. It will never be JUST a man decision.

  • @EazyRocko
    @EazyRocko Рік тому +6

    I guess guys can't be friends with girls without people saying their dating everything has to be sexualized it's fucked but that's society

  • @staceydupree8488
    @staceydupree8488 Рік тому +8

    She is and was an amazing woman. Who was extremely talented and smart. When she passed I cried as if she was my own daughter. God bless you beautiful rest easy there'll never be another like you 💯🙏🏽♥️

  • @Tayishas_Facts
    @Tayishas_Facts Рік тому +6

    Thank you for the link Aaliyah deserves it wish it could bring her back but she deserves all my money

  • @weeping.angel27
    @weeping.angel27 Рік тому +11

    I'm glad I noticed I was unsubscribed from your channel.
    The whole male & female friendship I very rare. My best friend (now lover) and I were great friends when we first met in college. A lot of people thought we were together, but we said no we're just friends. My mother and his mother said in this sad world, a man and a woman can't be friends.
    The media always make up some story. Including these stan and fan pages feed into it. Not everyone has to be in your relationship business. Whatever is going on between a couple is their business. I'm glad Aaliyah kept her romantic relationships to herself.

  • @Deenique16
    @Deenique16 Рік тому +7

    It’s so weird how some ppl think that a woman and man are incapable of platonic relationships. Not everything has to be romantic. You take a picture with someone and blogs and people try to speculate. It is very demeaning of her legacy. RIP Aaliyah💙

    • @elyan4458
      @elyan4458 Рік тому +1

      Let’s be real a man and woman can only be friends if she is not conventionally attractive. If the man does not find her the least bit attractive they can be friends but even then if a man gets horny he will lower his standards to sleep with her. So no, a plutonic relationship cannot happen. A woman thrives off lies, and attention from a man. she will know that if she wasn’t attractive he would not talk to her and pretend she is actually that interesting to have a plutonic Male friend. Business relationships the only relationship between a man and a woman that happens.

  • @SAlina-se9xq
    @SAlina-se9xq Рік тому +3

    binging your vids bro keep 'em coming

  • @desireehodge32
    @desireehodge32 Рік тому +2

    Signed it ❤❤❤

  • @johnallen2337
    @johnallen2337 Рік тому +3

    AALIYAH TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH ANGIEMARTINEZ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ GO CHECK OUT THE INTERVIEW SHE CLEARED ALL THE RUMORS HERSELF BEFORE SHE PASSED💯💯💯. AALIYAH SAID SHE LAUGH AT ALL THE RUMORS 🤣🤣🤣. AALIYAH WAS SUPER SMART SHE KNEW HOW THE BUSINESS WORK THAT'S WHY SHE WAS MURDERED BECAUSE PEOPLE COULDN'T PUPPET HER💯‼️‼️‼️ AALIYAH WAS SUPER INTELLIGENT 🧠🤓 MOST PEOPLE WHO TALK NEGATIVE OF HER OR COMPARE HER TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN IQ OF A GRAPE 🍇 LMAO!!!!!! AALIYAH WAS GENUINELY A SWEET PERSON AND SHE WANTED TO SEE EVERYONE WIN CHECK OUT HER OTHER INTERVIEW WHEN SHE SAID, " IT'S ROOM OUT HERE FOR EVERYONE" I BET PEOPLE WON'T MENTIONED THAT‼️‼️‼️

  • @musiclover-cn7tb
    @musiclover-cn7tb 11 місяців тому

    I'm so glad you spoke on this she was allegedly dating everyone she was ever in a photo with from Nas , Q -tip , smh .

  • @taramashups
    @taramashups Рік тому +4

    Great video, Tony!
    …But now I’m curious after what you said in the video, how do you feel about Beyoncé? 👀👀 (No judgment here whether you like her or not, I will always respect your opinion! I was just curious.)

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +5

      Thank You ‼ I like Beyonce's older work than her most recent, I think she's a great performer and a hard worker.

  • @jimmydeneus7109
    @jimmydeneus7109 Рік тому +5

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @dorianneutral1787
    @dorianneutral1787 Рік тому +1

    3:49 OMG Yes!

  • @karenpegram5778
    @karenpegram5778 Рік тому +6

    Ughh I've missed you Tony! Our baby girl 😭😭😭❤❤❤you are a true angel for keeping her legacy alive!

    • @karenpegram5778
      @karenpegram5778 Рік тому +1

      And did you happen to see they named Ashanti princess of r&b .... Thoughts? I didn't particularly care for that and I love Ashanti too!

    • @Igboman87
      @Igboman87 Рік тому +1

      @@karenpegram5778 Same

  • @kekemola1475
    @kekemola1475 8 місяців тому +2

    "If it was anything Jay Z hit, it was his face against the wall when aaliyah friend zoned him and chose dame dash" ayyyoooo 😂

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  8 місяців тому +1

      😅😅😅

    • @simplylavaly1051
      @simplylavaly1051 2 місяці тому

      I really want to know why people keep insulting Jay-Z in all of the years he has been famous he has never disrespected Aaliyah or Dame! He made an Aaliyah tribute and even said “dame is missing you..” so he didn’t at all sound bitter. Dame is going to say a lot of negative things because him and Jay aren’t friends anymore so he would find anything to trash him but what I don’t get it peoples anger towards Jay-z when he has shown public respect for both Aaliyah and Dame. Jay has only showed interest in Beyonce for as long as he’s been famous, there’s no record of him trying to settle down pre Beyonce. Even just off his songs Big pumping, Girls Girls Girls.. Jay-Z was a player and loving it before Beyonce Knowles came around.

  • @MissBaby404
    @MissBaby404 Рік тому +9

    Let’s keep it real….they looked more than friendly at that party where she was wearing the pink top. His arms were around her waist, her arms were around his neck, and there’s even a picture of her standing in front of him with their hands interlocked. It didn’t give friend-zoned. Ultimately she chose Dame and that’s what it is. RIP Aaliyah.

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +5

      I get what you're saying, but I remember seeing people dance like that at school parties who weren't "couples".

  • @goat5018
    @goat5018 Рік тому +13

    we need a Hollywood star for AALIYAH ⭐️

  • @blackgirlparis
    @blackgirlparis Рік тому +2

    Tony! You are amazing I just discovered this video and your channel and you spoke pure unbiased facts. No bashing for both iconic women something alot of fan bases and platforms do, no bashing of Jay or dame. Just facts. I love both Bey and baby girl and it's hard to find videos explaining the nature of Jay and Aaliyah/Jay and Bey without people inserting their opinions bashing one or the other (Beyonce or Aaliyah). Tony I subscribed which I hardly do unless I find a page or artist I truly enjoy. Keep being you brother. This was an excellent video.

  • @Beauty4Ashes578
    @Beauty4Ashes578 6 місяців тому +1

    Aaliyah didn’t want him and he was upset and hurt. As years go by the truth is becoming more clear. It pisses me off tbh 🙄 RIP baby girl 💕💕

    • @simplylavaly1051
      @simplylavaly1051 2 місяці тому

      I really want to know why people keep insulting Jay-Z in all of the years he has been famous he has never disrespected Aaliyah or Dame! He made an Aaliyah tribute and even said “dame is missing you..” so he didn’t at all sound bitter. Dame is going to say a lot of negative things because him and Jay aren’t friends anymore so he would find anything to trash him but what I don’t get it peoples anger towards Jay-z when he has shown public respect for both Aaliyah and Dame. Jay has only showed interest in Beyonce for as long as he’s been famous, there’s no record of him trying to settle down pre Beyonce. Even just off his songs Big pumping, Girls Girls Girls.. Jay-Z was a player and loving it before Beyonce Knowles came around.

  • @SirJamieokeith
    @SirJamieokeith Рік тому +3

    👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @damyanthelion
    @damyanthelion Рік тому +16

    What both struck and stood out to me when I was younger, was that Aaliyah never did that self-deprecating thing a lot of people (both celebrities and regular) do. She was always publicly confident in her abilities as a singer | performer, as well as in her burgeoning sensuality | sex appeal.
    She wasn’t salacious with it but also never downplayed it. Eg. Other stars typically reject the idea of themselves as a sex symbol (even if it makes no sense re: their image), whereas Aaliyah was always very at ease to the point of agreement, with the idea of herself as a sexy young lady in tune with her sensual self. Whether that involved a sex life or not was none of our business and still isn’t💯
    What was different with Aaliyah though is while she teased and hinted at it, she kept the details, as well as the source of her sexual confidence private, believing the private expression of that part of her life were her business alone. The furore of the R Kelly situation likely played a massive part in that. Having that much attention on something so personal (truth be damned), so young was a trauma in itself.
    I’d like to believe drawing the velvet rope between the public and her romantic life in the assured confident way she did in the years that followed was how she healed and took charge of that. That said, although she never publicly claimed Damon, she didn’t hide him either. He was like an industry secret that everyone knew about behind the scenes.
    It would’ve been interesting to see how she might’ve navigated her relationships as the years went on had she not passed. Would she have become more open or stuck to her guns until marriage? Or would she have become even more extreme, fans finding out years after the fact about a whole secret husband, kids and grandchildren?😭
    Interviewers seemed to understand the reasons behind Aaliyah’s public mystery and learned not to go there with her i.e. Angie Martinez Interview. For example, it’s obvious Angie knows about Dame in that interview and could’ve blurted it out Wendy-style had she been less respectful but instead she chose not to cross Aaliyah’s unspoken boundary much to her clear relief. It’s a funny moment tbh.

  • @BooksandLooksTV
    @BooksandLooksTV Рік тому +6

    You speaking some real ish

  • @sydneyc1810
    @sydneyc1810 Рік тому +6

    Jayz mentioned her name in his lyrics. They were good friends. It’s articles about him speaking about his friendship with Aaliyah. He spoke how hurt he was etc.

  • @idanceforthestars
    @idanceforthestars Рік тому +3

    3:47 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👋🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

  • @ourforeverbabygirl22
    @ourforeverbabygirl22 Рік тому +3

    I agree with in 💯this is what I have been telling people for years about these kind of situation like this and people just don’t get it and think you’re crazy for speaking like that. I never understand that

  • @jessicamcdaniels2337
    @jessicamcdaniels2337 Рік тому +4

    Dame Dash and Aaliyah were together at that time. So I doubt she would even mess with Jay Z like that since he was friends/business partners with Dame

    • @aao2780
      @aao2780 Рік тому

      Lol Damon and Jay were known to share the same chicks. Damon and Jay were always in competition, especially Damon who never really respected Jay. Damon hollered at Beyonce the same way he went as Aaliyah when she was seeing Jay.

    • @jessicamcdaniels2337
      @jessicamcdaniels2337 Рік тому

      @@aao2780 So you think Aaliyah dated Jay? Because Beyonce swerved the hell outta Damon. I wouldn't be surprised if Aaliyah did the same. She exuded class

  • @bajeboi
    @bajeboi Рік тому +6

    I kind of think these topics shouldn't be given oxygen as you said we really don't know what happened behind closed doors. I do wonder how Aaliyah would have navigated in the blog /Internet age especially the R Kelly aspect.

  • @markellecorley872
    @markellecorley872 Рік тому +6

    I love this like finally someone is saying this like y’all don’t know what happens behind closed doors like just because one lil pic with a guy doesn’t mean they hooked up like that’s dumb

  • @Speakup117
    @Speakup117 Рік тому

    Not surprised she's wearing the American Flag in the Ad for her Hall of Fame induction.
    From the field, she looks nice but I'm happy with my little freedoms

  • @Speakup117
    @Speakup117 Рік тому +2

    Poor Aaliyah, she really looks semi catatonic in the white party pics. Like she's been doing this for forever she's not even there anymore 😔

  • @TheDonYG
    @TheDonYG Рік тому

    CHILLLLLL

  • @Ace-zc9hv
    @Ace-zc9hv Рік тому +14

    I always believed the 3rd verse on jay-z's song cry was about Aaliyah and her and Jay-Z talking but her finding out that he was still smashing other women so she moved on with Dame.He says "I mourn forever now I gotta live with the fact I did you wrong forever".Mind you this song and video were shot after Aaliyah died,so it's the mourning line for me.I also believe messed up off of Aaliyahs last album was talking about Jay z as well.She says"Take me for granted,expect me to, stay right here,wait on you, while you have your fun,there is where you messed up".Y'all listen to that 3rd verse on song cry and messed up and tell me what y'all think

    • @ourforeverbabygirl22
      @ourforeverbabygirl22 Рік тому +7

      The song cry was about his ex girlfriend he’s apologizing too it wasn’t for Aaliyah

    • @Ace-zc9hv
      @Ace-zc9hv Рік тому +2

      @@ourforeverbabygirl22 Each verse is about a different woman

    • @Ace-zc9hv
      @Ace-zc9hv Рік тому +2

      @@ourforeverbabygirl22 Look the song up and it’s explanation on Wikipedia

    • @ourforeverbabygirl22
      @ourforeverbabygirl22 Рік тому +8

      @@Ace-zc9hv lol Wikipedia?? you know you can retype shit on Wikipedia 💀 I have done that before several times

    • @Ace-zc9hv
      @Ace-zc9hv Рік тому +2

      @@ourforeverbabygirl22 Look up his interview with Bill Maher then lol🤣🤣🤣💯

  • @highestabode1066
    @highestabode1066 Рік тому

    IM soooooooooooooooo confused Tony! please listen to Diary of a CEO.....Dame Dash discussed his mom dying at 16 but in another interview on ET he said his mom died after Aaliyah

  • @FransHattingh
    @FransHattingh Рік тому +7

    I was waiting for you to bring up the fact that far too many people try to reduce Aaliyah to (perceived) scandals. 🙄
    I really don't understand why fans are so invested in the private lives of celebrities. Honestly, what does it do for them? I can only imagine how irritating it must be for the celebrities after a while.
    A person's private life is just that: private. I don't care who is dating who. That's THEIR business. What I personally _really_ care about is the art they make. I fell in love with Aaliyah's music and artistry. That's what I remember her for. I didn't know a thing about her life until a few years after she passed - only because I watched the DVD that was included in the _Ultimate Aaliyah_ compilation.
    Hell, even in high school I didn't pay any heed to rumours and gossip about others (celebrity or not) because I know from experience (I myself have been the subject or tons of the most ridiculous rumours) that 95% of rumours are made up. Conjecture. And whats more: The broken telephone is real.

  • @toyshop98
    @toyshop98 Рік тому +3

    Right blown way out proportion FRIENDS!!! NOT LOVERS.

  • @idanceforthestars
    @idanceforthestars Рік тому +3

    HI TONY JUST WANT TO SAY I LOVE U

  • @pbthecool4946
    @pbthecool4946 Рік тому +4

    They were cool with eachother I personally Don’t think they were in relationship there were somewhere what friends

  • @musiclover-cn7tb
    @musiclover-cn7tb 11 місяців тому

    Lol where did the Jet situation come from they know better ?.

  • @brittanyguyton3987
    @brittanyguyton3987 Рік тому +6

    I am the same with my favorite artists. I only care about the music, new music videos and albums dropping. when they are going on tour etc. There personal lives, I don't need to know about. I don't know them personally. I like learning how they got their start in the music business or how they got discovered, their creative process with making music, stuff like that.

  • @SOULarLioness
    @SOULarLioness Рік тому +3

    And one more thing...this is TRULY the dangers of the "celebrity effect" and PARASOCIAL RELATIONSHIPS. Whew!

    • @TonyTurner
      @TonyTurner  Рік тому +1

      I might make a video just about that ‼

    • @SOULarLioness
      @SOULarLioness Рік тому +2

      @@TonyTurner Go for it! It really needs to be talked about, especially with the continued uprise of all forms of social media and the diminishing of privacy/boundaries.

  • @wubijegyacob1338
    @wubijegyacob1338 2 місяці тому

    👏🙏👏💖

  • @musiclover-cn7tb
    @musiclover-cn7tb 11 місяців тому

    Mya , Ashanti, Aaliyah, Ciara anytime a woman was in a picture or video with someone it did get mentioned that they were dating so and so Mya got it pretty bad too.

  • @camille3083
    @camille3083 Рік тому +2

    She never slept with Jay z. Just bcuz you date someone or were nice and smiled in their face, doesn’t mean you slept with them. Her boyfriend who knew her well already said she wasn’t easy in an interview with his barber. Look it up.

  • @MichaelF267
    @MichaelF267 Рік тому +1

    oops. I forgot to leave a comment. I watched this on my xbox originally.
    I heard rumors that Jay-z Originally wanted to be with her but i never heard any conformation whether or not that was true. I Remember Dame Dash said he left Roc-A-Fella Records because he was pissed at Jay-Z for doing "best of both worlds" with R. Kelly, which was f'd up of him.