+Mousa Mansour (Captian) ehh I was a little too young to remember watching Him. And he didn't really do much as he only started for a year or two... At least I think. Lol
Henne to Mannigham...Was going through my closet and haven't wore my #7 Michigan Jersey in a while Go Wolverines! This video is so awesome! These really were the days
Y’all see all the elite WRs that Michigan/Henne had? I’ve been saying this for about 2 years we need to get back to getting NFL caliber receivers at Michigan. Braylon Bredston Manningham Avant all played in the NFL and were good at that level
Wanna know why I loved Henne? He never sat there after a TD, looked for the nearest camera and did the typical self chest pound pointing to the sky "I am the fucking shit" quarterback celebration we see today. No, hes a guy who loves the sport and his team, thats why hes almost always the first one jumping on his teammates in the end zone. Class player.
I was a big fan of Chad Henne. He was tougher than people gave him credit for (Illinois '07 anyone?) and had some amazing wins. But I definitely think he underachieved in his Michigan career...0-4 vs OSU is painful.
well as a dolphin fan and us having henne i always liked him from michigan till now. I must say he hasnt been what we expected but hey theirs still hope.
Remember how Matt Gutierrez was supposed to be the starter but then got injured? Makes you wonder how different things could have been, for better or worse.
The Minnesota game in 2004 was my first ever live Michigan game 4:05 , and it's something I will never forget. 14 years old but raised with maize and blue blood, I'm lucky to have a father that graduated from the UofM and I plan to attend Law school there in 2 years. GO BLUE
I think he and drew Henson are my two fav Michigan qbs that I saw play. Hopefully we will get back to this soon with the malzon kid coming in and wilton speight being there also, I've lost all hope for Shane morris lol
@DrOman5596 Read my comment again. I affirmed that the other 21 points in the Iowa game came from players outside Denard. I clipped a word or two. This is mostly because Denard got injured. How many rushing yards did Henne have his freshman year? His career? How many designed runs? Try watching the Iowa game again. We were within 7 points at one point in the second half. Plus, Iowa didn't put in its second stringers or change their defense...meaning no garbage time.
@DrOman5596 Other problems: The fact that Denard only scored 1 touchdown against Iowa despite 28 points and 550 yards actually strengthens my argument that our offense was really good. There are two halves in football. The Iowa game looked like a comeback in full swing...until a crucial missed tackle on third and long. Wisconsin never backed off on defense, if you payed attention. A top 10 offense is a top 10 offense. You can't tell me those other 9 teams didn't play cupcakes as well.
@20evan10 I was. We shelled at least three good defenses this year. When we won games like 14-7 in the '90s, no one was bad-mouthing our offense even if they weren't good. Now I find it a little ridiculous that so much criticism is leveled at the one bright spot of our 2010 team.
@20evan10 Not really. Illinois had the #12 defense before they played Michigan and still landed around #30 despite getting shelled. Iowa had a top 15 defense. "Mediocre" is basically all of Lloyd Carr's offense. Our minimum yard total outside the bowl game was 380 against Michigan State. That would be a maximum during the Carr years. If we won 10 games, no one would be talking about how our offense was "overrated."
@TheZooCrew The stats are blinding you. Denard Robinson can rack up stats against Bowling Green and Uconn all he wants, but until the offence isn't utterly anemic against good teams Carr and Henne's offensive legacy will tower over Robinson's.
@maizewings Define "big games." Illinois, Wisconsin, and Iowa all had good defenses and they got shelled. We only lost two games due to our offense, IMO.
@thecarrotdude That's really where the blame should be placed...but in truth, Forcier didn't really lose us any games besides 2009 Ohio State. He's the reason we won Illinois this year and he very well could have orchestrated a disgusting comeback against Iowa if our defense could tackle someone on 3rd and 15. What pissed me off this year the most was the amount of criticism directed at the offense, which was the best Michigan has seen in like 80 years when the defense couldn't do shit.
@TheZooCrew Henne's first year at quarterback was much better. He didn't break any records, but he was 7-1 in the big ten. Bowling Greens defense played better than Illinois against us (hint: a team that gives up 67 points doesn't have a good defense), Denard only scored 1 touchdown against Iowa, and Wisconsin completely shut him out in the first half. We weren't competitive at any point during those games or the OSU game. Our defense was bad, but they didn't get much help from our offense.
@DrOman5596 We put up 28 against Iowa and Wisconsin and 31 against Penn State. If we had anything remotely resembling a defense, that would be competitive. When we won games 14-7 in the '90s and early this decade, was anyone talking about how poor the offense was? Then why are people criticizing the offense when we lose 31-41? Or when we put up 28 points in a half despite the opposing defense remaining aggressive (Wisco)?
@DrOman5596 You have it completely backwards. That's also not how football works. Chad Henne was not 7-1 in the Big Ten his freshman year. The team was 7-1. Football is a team sport, you know. One game does not define a defense. Illinois had the 12th ranked defense coming into our game, left with the 42nd, and still managed to end up in the top 30. Two possibilities...Illinois had a terrible defense or we had a really good offense. Statistics points to the latter.
@ohiostsucks Blaming one person for any loss is bullshit every time. I have found myself constantly frustrated for the past three years because it seems like most Michigan fans were loathe to criticize anyone except Rich Rod for every loss.
@TheZooCrew ya you're right about forcier. i always viewed him as a cocky punk and then he goes and becomes academically ineligible. about our offense, im not sure it was the best in 80 years... I think it was pretty bad. denard couldn't really throw that well. our rb's and wide receivers were mediocre at best. our o line was pretty shitty even though it was supposed to be good cause we had so many seniors. i mean henne's four years were imo much better than the past three years.
@DrOman5596 Robinson has a single season of being the starting quarterback. Predict the future, can you? Never mind that he broke the single-season QB rushing record. The offense isn't "utterly anemic" against good teams...just the teams you and others choose to cherry-pick to suit your own needs. UConn made a BCS bowl (unfairly) and actually hung with Oklahoma for a bit. Notre Dame wasn't fantastic, but certainly no slouch. Illinois, Iowa, and Wisco all had good defenses.
@TheZooCrew (Pt 2) As for Illinois, forget the stats, Bowling Green's defense played better. Even if Illinois was good in other games, they played atrociously in our game, just look at jr hemmingway’s touchdown. Stats point to the fact that they had a bad day; we could only score 7 points against OSU and 14 points against Miss. St, and we were only competitive against Indiana and Purdue in the big ten.
@DrOman5596 "forget the stats, Bowling Green's defense played better." Without the stats, there's no way to prove that statement. Open mouth, insert foot. "Even if Illinois was good in other games, they played atrociously in our game" Or maybe our offense just played up to its potential. The OSU game was terrible. I can't refute that. I get the sinking feeling that the loss of Forcier for the bowl game changed the game plan entirely. Denard couldn't run outside of occasional scramble.
@TheZooCrew (Pt 1) I've never encountered anyone quite as blinded by stats as you. Denard had nothing to do with the "combeback" against Iowa. Forcier lead it with 239 yards and 2 tds. Coming to within two scores in garbage time doesn't = competitive. The fact that Denard had 1 td in 3 quarters shows that he couldn’t put his team in a position to be competitive in a tough game against a good team, something Henne was more than capable of doing as a true freshman.
@thecarrotdude Are you joking? 34.3 points and 500 yards per game. That blows every single Carr year out of the water. Denard completed 62% of his passes for 2316 yards. Roundtree still caught 63 passes despite developing the dropsies later on in the season. If you honestly thought our offense was "bad," then you know absolutely nothing about football. In fact, you might even qualify for negative knowledge.
@DrOman5596 I'm not going to argue that Denard right now is better than Chad Henne ever was. Denard right now is better than freshman Chad Henne, though...Henne had a good defense and serious NFL talent at his disposal. The main point of my argument is that it's rather foolish to cherry-pick two games and assert that our offense wasn't good.
@69UM24OSU12 Because every loss to OSU was purely Henne's fault, right? Get a clue. You can't tell me that Brian Griese was a better quarterback than Henne.
Whose here after Chad beat the browns😭🤣
Haha yeah I like Chad Henne but I hate hate hate, the Chiefs (I’m a Raiders fan lol)
me
Well I’ll be damned Chad did it again
Chad came in clutch today . 〽️
Anyone here after chiefs browns game
Him and Denard Robinson are my two favorite Michigan qbs. Miss the glory days of UofM football '06 and '07.
what about Brady
+Mousa Mansour (Captian) ehh I was a little too young to remember watching Him. And he didn't really do much as he only started for a year or two... At least I think. Lol
What about jj?
What about now?
2023 today...2nd Super Bowl ring with KC Chiefs...retires after game...thanks for your contributions Chad...
Manningham was such a fucking beast
He just got a Super Bowl ring with the Chiefs.
Jason avant man the good o'l days
Henne thing is possible
Henne was a great QB…I wish we had those wideouts today…natty all day if so.
Henne to Mannigham...Was going through my closet and haven't wore my #7 Michigan Jersey in a while Go Wolverines! This video is so awesome! These really were the days
Y’all see all the elite WRs that Michigan/Henne had? I’ve been saying this for about 2 years we need to get back to getting NFL caliber receivers at Michigan. Braylon Bredston Manningham Avant all played in the NFL and were good at that level
Thankyou that was bad ass awesome to watch the future in the past
We miss you over here in michigan man. Great job in Jacksonville! I can't watch him but they've been winning ever since he started for then.
he has such a good throw to the sideline! rocket-arm! I hope they give him another shot!
Anyone else here after mahomes got injured?
Yup lmao
@@anthonycastillo5077 This dude was clutch in Michigan..wtf
Thanks for the Edward's and super Mario highlights lol
Wanna know why I loved Henne? He never sat there after a TD, looked for the nearest camera and did the typical self chest pound pointing to the sky "I am the fucking shit" quarterback celebration we see today. No, hes a guy who loves the sport and his team, thats why hes almost always the first one jumping on his teammates in the end zone. Class player.
I was a big fan of Chad Henne. He was tougher than people gave him credit for (Illinois '07 anyone?) and had some amazing wins. But I definitely think he underachieved in his Michigan career...0-4 vs OSU is painful.
Dam Henne was beast... wish Michigan gets a QB like him after Robinson
Jj mccarthy
well as a dolphin fan and us having henne i always liked him from michigan till now. I must say he hasnt been what we expected but hey theirs still hope.
I was so good in college
He has been the man for along time nigerians
He did throw a great ball
Remember how Matt Gutierrez was supposed to be the starter but then got injured? Makes you wonder how different things could have been, for better or worse.
Manningham killing’em.
The Minnesota game in 2004 was my first ever live Michigan game 4:05 , and it's something I will never forget. 14 years old but raised with maize and blue blood, I'm lucky to have a father that graduated from the UofM and I plan to attend Law school there in 2 years. GO BLUE
So did you go to law school bruh?
still love "Oh wide open"
Henne was a good quarterback but when you don't get even one win over the Buckeyes, there's a big hole in your career.
I think he and drew Henson are my two fav Michigan qbs that I saw play. Hopefully we will get back to this soon with the malzon kid coming in and wilton speight being there also, I've lost all hope for Shane morris lol
spot on! go blueeeee
@TheZooCrew very true. hey i live in miami and lifelong dolphin fan so i know lol. plus we have a coach who completely kills his confidence.
@llSgtScopell How does one underachieve when at the end of his career he leads the school in nearly every significant passing record?
c''mon um think we can surprise this year
@DrOman5596
Read my comment again. I affirmed that the other 21 points in the Iowa game came from players outside Denard. I clipped a word or two. This is mostly because Denard got injured. How many rushing yards did Henne have his freshman year? His career? How many designed runs?
Try watching the Iowa game again. We were within 7 points at one point in the second half. Plus, Iowa didn't put in its second stringers or change their defense...meaning no garbage time.
@TheZooCrew
i also blame our overall shitty team, tate forcier, and greg robinson in addition to blaming rich rod
@DrOman5596
Other problems:
The fact that Denard only scored 1 touchdown against Iowa despite 28 points and 550 yards actually strengthens my argument that our offense was really good.
There are two halves in football. The Iowa game looked like a comeback in full swing...until a crucial missed tackle on third and long. Wisconsin never backed off on defense, if you payed attention.
A top 10 offense is a top 10 offense. You can't tell me those other 9 teams didn't play cupcakes as well.
lol at mike trico freaking out at edwards touchdown catches (i was doing the same thing though)
@dlago12
His first few games this year were good, the best thing that could happen for him would be to play another season which will happen.
@llSgtScopell Yeah meant that for the Amondry2, my bad. :P
@cmoney7463 SIR I think he was born and lvied in Ann Arbor but he went to Syracuse I think!
@20evan10
I was. We shelled at least three good defenses this year.
When we won games like 14-7 in the '90s, no one was bad-mouthing our offense even if they weren't good. Now I find it a little ridiculous that so much criticism is leveled at the one bright spot of our 2010 team.
chadddddddd! go blue
@20evan10
Not really.
Illinois had the #12 defense before they played Michigan and still landed around #30 despite getting shelled.
Iowa had a top 15 defense.
"Mediocre" is basically all of Lloyd Carr's offense. Our minimum yard total outside the bowl game was 380 against Michigan State. That would be a maximum during the Carr years. If we won 10 games, no one would be talking about how our offense was "overrated."
@Genetics9100 Ummm did you send that to the right person? I never said he underachieves.
@TheZooCrew The stats are blinding you. Denard Robinson can rack up stats against Bowling Green and Uconn all he wants, but until the offence isn't utterly anemic against good teams Carr and Henne's offensive legacy will tower over Robinson's.
@DrOman5596
Plus, Carr and Henne WERE anemic against good teams...depending on what you judge to be a "good team."
@maizewings
Define "big games." Illinois, Wisconsin, and Iowa all had good defenses and they got shelled. We only lost two games due to our offense, IMO.
@charismatic9904
Henne's working out the kinks, but it's hard to be good when your offensive line consists of Jake Long and four turnstiles.
@thecarrotdude
That's really where the blame should be placed...but in truth, Forcier didn't really lose us any games besides 2009 Ohio State. He's the reason we won Illinois this year and he very well could have orchestrated a disgusting comeback against Iowa if our defense could tackle someone on 3rd and 15.
What pissed me off this year the most was the amount of criticism directed at the offense, which was the best Michigan has seen in like 80 years when the defense couldn't do shit.
@TheZooCrew Henne's first year at quarterback was much better. He didn't break any records, but he was 7-1 in the big ten. Bowling Greens defense played better than Illinois against us (hint: a team that gives up 67 points doesn't have a good defense), Denard only scored 1 touchdown against Iowa, and Wisconsin completely shut him out in the first half. We weren't competitive at any point during those games or the OSU game. Our defense was bad, but they didn't get much help from our offense.
@DrOman5596
We put up 28 against Iowa and Wisconsin and 31 against Penn State. If we had anything remotely resembling a defense, that would be competitive.
When we won games 14-7 in the '90s and early this decade, was anyone talking about how poor the offense was? Then why are people criticizing the offense when we lose 31-41? Or when we put up 28 points in a half despite the opposing defense remaining aggressive (Wisco)?
I wish Mike Trico would annouce more UofM games! @ 11:50 Rich Rod!
@amondry
I can't in good conscience blame Henne for any of those OSU losses.
@DrOman5596
You have it completely backwards. That's also not how football works.
Chad Henne was not 7-1 in the Big Ten his freshman year. The team was 7-1. Football is a team sport, you know.
One game does not define a defense. Illinois had the 12th ranked defense coming into our game, left with the 42nd, and still managed to end up in the top 30. Two possibilities...Illinois had a terrible defense or we had a really good offense. Statistics points to the latter.
@ohiostsucks
Blaming one person for any loss is bullshit every time. I have found myself constantly frustrated for the past three years because it seems like most Michigan fans were loathe to criticize anyone except Rich Rod for every loss.
@slenky2124
I hope you're right. But there's really no evidence.
@20evan10
You're completely missing the point. Our offense was far from the problem.
We need to get back to executing like this. Our offense has been shaky at best since Henne left. Robinson was jus a runner not a passer
@TheZooCrew
ya you're right about forcier. i always viewed him as a cocky punk and then he goes and becomes academically ineligible. about our offense, im not sure it was the best in 80 years... I think it was pretty bad. denard couldn't really throw that well. our rb's and wide receivers were mediocre at best. our o line was pretty shitty even though it was supposed to be good cause we had so many seniors. i mean henne's four years were imo much better than the past three years.
@amondry At least half of those 4 losses were not his fault. Hell, I'd say all of them were not on him.
@DrOman5596
Robinson has a single season of being the starting quarterback. Predict the future, can you? Never mind that he broke the single-season QB rushing record.
The offense isn't "utterly anemic" against good teams...just the teams you and others choose to cherry-pick to suit your own needs.
UConn made a BCS bowl (unfairly) and actually hung with Oklahoma for a bit. Notre Dame wasn't fantastic, but certainly no slouch. Illinois, Iowa, and Wisco all had good defenses.
@69UM24OSU12
Excellent username, though.
@TheZooCrew (Pt 2) As for Illinois, forget the stats, Bowling Green's defense played better. Even if Illinois was good in other games, they played atrociously in our game, just look at jr hemmingway’s touchdown. Stats point to the fact that they had a bad day; we could only score 7 points against OSU and 14 points against Miss. St, and we were only competitive against Indiana and Purdue in the big ten.
@DrOman5596
"forget the stats, Bowling Green's defense played better."
Without the stats, there's no way to prove that statement. Open mouth, insert foot.
"Even if Illinois was good in other games, they played atrociously in our game"
Or maybe our offense just played up to its potential.
The OSU game was terrible. I can't refute that.
I get the sinking feeling that the loss of Forcier for the bowl game changed the game plan entirely. Denard couldn't run outside of occasional scramble.
@TheZooCrew (Pt 1) I've never encountered anyone quite as blinded by stats as you. Denard had nothing to do with the "combeback" against Iowa. Forcier lead it with 239 yards and 2 tds. Coming to within two scores in garbage time doesn't = competitive. The fact that Denard had 1 td in 3 quarters shows that he couldn’t put his team in a position to be competitive in a tough game against a good team, something Henne was more than capable of doing as a true freshman.
haha dantonio crying
@thecarrotdude
Are you joking? 34.3 points and 500 yards per game. That blows every single Carr year out of the water.
Denard completed 62% of his passes for 2316 yards. Roundtree still caught 63 passes despite developing the dropsies later on in the season. If you honestly thought our offense was "bad," then you know absolutely nothing about football. In fact, you might even qualify for negative knowledge.
@DrOman5596
I'm not going to argue that Denard right now is better than Chad Henne ever was. Denard right now is better than freshman Chad Henne, though...Henne had a good defense and serious NFL talent at his disposal.
The main point of my argument is that it's rather foolish to cherry-pick two games and assert that our offense wasn't good.
@20evan10
Way to cherry-pick.
Illinois: 67
Iowa and Wisconsin: 28 and a shitload of yards
I can do it, too!
How the hell was Chad Henne drafted in the second round? His stats ain't shit compared to shitty Shea Patterson.
@Tmas805
Gardner could be just as good.
@DrOman5596
*not better as a pure passer, of course, but far more productive as a quarterback.
D Rob makes Henne look like a joke.
Oh wait.....
In bigger games ...no! .....and not even in the pros!
@69UM24OSU12
Because every loss to OSU was purely Henne's fault, right? Get a clue. You can't tell me that Brian Griese was a better quarterback than Henne.
Henne sucked. Was way overrated
Henne: ... *mic drop