This channel is very underrated! Great recovery experiment Jason. I'm not trying to lecture as I know you are well aware of the risks, but I find myself worrying about your chronic lead and heavy metal exposure when doing this type of work repeatedly over time. I see that you use appropriate PPE gear when you are doing high risk stuff (dust/fumes/etc) but stuff still slips through even the best PPE protocols. I would highly suggest building a high flow vent hood workbench to work in....would love to see a build video!
You know I swear when I watch your videos you look like you're having absolute ball you're having fun and I have fun watching your videos I'm learning a lot from your videos and I do appreciate what you're doing for everybody you take care and I'll keep on watching you keep on melting and I'll keep watching
I may have no idea what I'm talking about, but couldn't you built more of a funnel under the jaw crusher so the material can go straight into a five gallon bucket instead of transferring it from the tray to the bucket by hand? Just a thought :)
The soapy feeling from the caustic is your body oils/fats pretty much turning into soap. It’s a good idea to neutralise it with a mild acid, I’ve found beer is a fantastic neutraliser but working at a brewery so that’s mostly convenience. Any carbonated drink or vinegar would be fine.
@@bacongrz it's something I think about every time I see a little bit of material find its way onto the ground and when I see the dust I wonder is there any gold dust there that's fine enough to fly away!
Really enjoyed this - especially the chemistry -- more please!! Would also be interested to see how much metal you get back from the spill when you poured into the cone moulds together with recovered material from the crucible leak in the furnace.
Hey Jason! I just wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoy these videos, and seeing you challenge yourself by trying new and different ideas in order to accomplish your goals. I think it's awesome that you aren't afraid to try things that you've never done before and experiment while you attempt to make it work. Far too often we see people do the same thing over and over again because it's what they're used to and what they're comfortable with. I can't blame them, as I'm guilty of doing that myself far too often, but how are we supposed to learn and expand our knowledge base if we don't push ourselves to our limits and experiment with other methodology and techniques? You're able to both inspire and educate people at the same time, which is admirable and you deserve credit for that. Thank you again for sharing your extensive knowledge and not being afraid to fail while you expand it with us. I look forward to future videos and what they have in store for all of us!
You were spot on with your Chemistry there you know, even the rooster in the background was telling you, you were right. And yes adding a little more oxidiser wont really hurt things. Love the vids btw !!
I work at an alfalfa plant as the lead sample tech, which is in charge of estimates before cleaning and purity after cleaning. I love watching these videos. It would be a dream job to do that with minerals.
I think you need to concrete underneath you jaw crusher so you can sweep it up to minimise loss and you should concrete around your furnace to also minimise loss
Better living through applied chemistry. Thanks Jason, this was an interesting video and a great reminder of college chemistry. Wishing you and your family a blessed week, gentle autumn weather and restful evenings. Peace brother
Im so glad you added extra KNO3 because you will lose a lot of it to decomposition before the lead melts, and to reacting with the flux components, as well as the weight being skewed by water content and the result of it simply not mixing properly.
Jason, I have been binge watching your channel more than Netflix. Love your videos and experiments. If I come over to US begginning of 2023 I'll come visit.
You should try to get ahold of Sreetips, and see if he would be willing to refine it chemically (liquid) for you. He does a lot of experiments in figuring out the silver/gold content of things.
I love these kinds of videos from my gold channels. I usually watch wet refinging videos so this is a little different. Good stuff, thanks again. EDIT, your furnace looks like Chernobyl, under the reactor.
yup essentially what Chernobyl was. molten heavy metals mixing with concrete and slag.. just Chernobyl is much heavier metals not to forget its radioactive
This is better than any NCIS show... If you can get reading on that metal, how much gold is in it... Looks very silvery, but even 2 % of gold is double the money...
In our smelting operation we pour off 120kg of silver and gold mix, send slabs of that off to the Perth mint to be refined, yeah, we make a pretty penny from our dirt :) well... dirt from around the world.
Amazing video, should do a collab with Sreetips on youtube. Maybe he could take your lead scrap and further see if anything is in it? Possibly looking for other precious metals also. Does make you wonder also how much the older timers left behind doing this stuff. I bet there is so much money just lying on the ground in piles probably more money in re-refining old scrap than fresh mining lol.
Great video Jason! You are truly The Mad Rock Scientist! If you get a chance see if you can run that bead under an XRF gun see what the actual content is. Thanks much. That is a LOT of work.
I really enjoy watching your videos and learning about the processes. I would like to see a video of how you separate gold and silver from a single, precious metals button.
Jason, as long as u do it soon, u might wanna filter that water in a ibc, it's loaded with probably palladium. Might cement out on copper 1- 2ozt per liter maybe.
I would like to see a sample of around the ground by the jaw crusher. Curious how much is lost in the dust and spills. Sure it’s minimal but would be interesting.
My first thought when you finished describing your run for today was "PLEASE wear a respiratory this time! Like, some of those materials in the past weren't too bad but this run looks extreme spicy.
I was happy to see him wearing a mask too. An I'm getting sick right now respiratory type an I had to cough from just watching it lol take care of it lungs an body you only get one.
Didn’t you used to have a scanner that would give you an idea of the metal percentages in a sample? I haven’t seen that in a while. Really cool to seen how much you can recover from what was basically garbage. Never seen that colour before for the slag. Where did the green come from? Copper?
I think he explained in one video that yes copper can offer a different colour and greenish slag, but so can the ph affect the colour as well. So knowing your chemistry is very important because in one of his electronic waste smelts he attributed the green slag to being nickel contamination. Iron can produce a green colour too but only when its unoxydised.
Pyro-chemistry is the best chemistry. Also - that "soapy" feeling is the Sodium Hydroxide extracting fat from your skin... so you might want to use a moisturizer.
If you spray your cone mold with silicone spray it'll pretty much fall out after it cools. Silicone spray is used as a mold release agent for all different kinds of things and I've had really good luck using it to make my own ice fishing sounders.
Silicone is only stable up to about 600 deg F or so. I can guarantee they would break down at the almost white hot temperatures used for melting most metals.
it is good that you take the time to collect the lead. also it is a very interesting chemistry experiment. i know this is an older video but please, get proper poring tongs, it will prolong the durability of your crucibles.
Listen man at first i was on my high horse with all those newish equipment you got thinking kinda down on ya like a sore ass loser.. But dude this entire video was just so fun to watch... Love watching all those pyramid head bashing! First vid i seen of yours and i liked and subscribed.. Cool as hell... Wish you the best, and looking forward to more! (I bet i have alot of vids to look through tho!)
your one of the utubers i dont mind long vids, I would buy one of the jaw crushers if i ever get out of the poverty I am in , I used to make my own glazes from granite
I know the big mining companies keep their slag. guy was at a huge gold mining company picked up up 1 of the mutiy million dollar bars and they also told him about the slag they keep. because it still has gold inside of it. it was for a documentary
supposed to turn your crucible all the way over, according to the old timers, since the heavies are at the bottom and it keeps your crucibles from having material run down the side and ruins them faster, just an old miners/assayers trick
I was Watching you the other day and I wondered how much gold you've got in the dirt around your setup I bet gold has already reached bedrock under your feet lol
Very interesting that it was 70 and ended up 70 im guessing it’s about a 75% silver 22% gold and 3 % copper/ nickel/ect hopefully you can find someone with an xrf gun and let us know. Thanks for sharing see you on the next one 👍🏼👊🏼
@25:00 The metals worth keeping are very beautiful when they're refined. I see the same thing on sreetips' channel as well. He uses chemical methods, and the solutions with pure metals have a distinct beauty that is not seen in the impure solutions.
Hi Jason, Fantastic video!! I always learn something new watching your smelting vid's! Maybe your buddy with the XRF gun can zap the button for you?? If so, let us know. Fascinating process! Thank You!! Take Care, Jim
Was thinking when you did the nitrate oxidation you needed to add some glass forming so the lead and copper had somewhere to go... Was concerned with the white smoke coming off that pour, would suspect it had a high lead content... potentially suboptimal. On the other hand, not sure how hard that would make base metal recovery with iron. On the third hand (don't ask where I'm getting these hands, it's gruesome), I've be contemplating electro refining once you have the metal. I am wondering if something like this would work... Cast into a flat plate, use nitric acid as electrolyte and all the precious metals except silver should end up as sludge in the bottom. Repeat with hydrochloric and that should drop out silver chloride. Repeat with sulphuric acid or pH Down and that should drop out lead sulphide leaving copper zinc nickel... I may have been thinking about this too much. I have plans to try this.
Can't believe I almost missed this video. It's always fascinating to go back through tailings and see what you missed! On a side note, the amount of lead dust and metal you're working with is terrifying. I know you're always careful and wear PPE, but have you ever had a blood test to check for lead? I remember CodysLab getting a test for mercury after he had been working with it a lot, just to verify everything was in order.
@@automedoniliad3269 What even are you saying? People in Africa have terrible working conditions, and so he's fine breathing in lead dust? That doesn't make any sense dude.
for a source of silver, with such a large amount of lead recovered, there could be an amount accounted for by most common lead being contaminated with a bit of silver to start with.
I kept wondering how Sreetips would have processed all that 🤣 Its been a long day! I kept waiting for you to rinse out the cornflakes with some distilled water... 😋
There should be a way to do this where you recover the lead instead of just releasing it into the air to poison the environment. The easiest way I can think of would be to use acid to separate the lead from the precious metals like Cody Reeder has done on CodysLab numerous times. Instead of just "cornflaking" it run it through the hammer mill or your little mill and grind it into powder, that'll give you thousands of times more surface area and use far less potassium nitrate and I doubt you'll have to smelt it repeatedly.
This channel is very underrated! Great recovery experiment Jason. I'm not trying to lecture as I know you are well aware of the risks, but I find myself worrying about your chronic lead and heavy metal exposure when doing this type of work repeatedly over time. I see that you use appropriate PPE gear when you are doing high risk stuff (dust/fumes/etc) but stuff still slips through even the best PPE protocols. I would highly suggest building a high flow vent hood workbench to work in....would love to see a build video!
Or just get a regular blood test for lead. Lots of people who work with lead do that already.
I love the efficiency of the “how much am I missing” videos
Very interesting way of recycling and reclaiming your mineral. Thoroughly enjoy watching your videos.
You know I swear when I watch your videos you look like you're having absolute ball you're having fun and I have fun watching your videos I'm learning a lot from your videos and I do appreciate what you're doing for everybody you take care and I'll keep on watching you keep on melting and I'll keep watching
I may have no idea what I'm talking about, but couldn't you built more of a funnel under the jaw crusher so the material can go straight into a five gallon bucket instead of transferring it from the tray to the bucket by hand? Just a thought :)
The soapy feeling from the caustic is your body oils/fats pretty much turning into soap. It’s a good idea to neutralise it with a mild acid, I’ve found beer is a fantastic neutraliser but working at a brewery so that’s mostly convenience. Any carbonated drink or vinegar would be fine.
Next: collect samples from the ground you always work on, see how much precious metals were spilled or blown away as dust.
You read my mind 😂
@@bacongrz it's something I think about every time I see a little bit of material find its way onto the ground and when I see the dust I wonder is there any gold dust there that's fine enough to fly away!
That’s probably the richest pay dirt around.
And yes, they do it time after time
Came here to suggest this.
Really enjoyed this - especially the chemistry -- more please!! Would also be interested to see how much metal you get back from the spill when you poured into the cone moulds together with recovered material from the crucible leak in the furnace.
Hey Jason! I just wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoy these videos, and seeing you challenge yourself by trying new and different ideas in order to accomplish your goals. I think it's awesome that you aren't afraid to try things that you've never done before and experiment while you attempt to make it work. Far too often we see people do the same thing over and over again because it's what they're used to and what they're comfortable with. I can't blame them, as I'm guilty of doing that myself far too often, but how are we supposed to learn and expand our knowledge base if we don't push ourselves to our limits and experiment with other methodology and techniques? You're able to both inspire and educate people at the same time, which is admirable and you deserve credit for that. Thank you again for sharing your extensive knowledge and not being afraid to fail while you expand it with us. I look forward to future videos and what they have in store for all of us!
absolutely agree with you there
Thank you for all of your content. You have a flair for explaining complicated things well.
Fascinating video! I love the hands-on chemistry. You even brought out the MOLES!
You were spot on with your Chemistry there you know, even the rooster in the background was telling you, you were right. And yes adding a little more oxidiser wont really hurt things. Love the vids btw !!
I work at an alfalfa plant as the lead sample tech, which is in charge of estimates before cleaning and purity after cleaning. I love watching these videos. It would be a dream job to do that with minerals.
Is that sample text as a leader or are you sampling for the heavy metal lead? What do you look for what is cleaning and what is done with the product?
@@jeffbybee5207 I was speaking of Alfalfa Seed aka Hay. With metals I don't know much at all but I want to learn.
Love your videos! Been watching for well over a year and every video is very entrainment! Keep it up Jason
This was really interesting and appreciated! These videos are really fun and educational to watch.
Do your sludge tank next!
Thanks Jason. Really educational and valuable show! That's a cool shaker.
I think you need to concrete underneath you jaw crusher so you can sweep it up to minimise loss and you should concrete around your furnace to also minimise loss
Better living through applied chemistry. Thanks Jason, this was an interesting video and a great reminder of college chemistry. Wishing you and your family a blessed week, gentle autumn weather and restful evenings. Peace brother
Im so glad you added extra KNO3 because you will lose a lot of it to decomposition before the lead melts, and to reacting with the flux components, as well as the weight being skewed by water content and the result of it simply not mixing properly.
This was a very good info video for everyone who has interest in keeping the trash that shows just how much we can get surprised!! That was awesome
I Always enjoy your videos Jason, Thank you for all you do for us on your channel 👍
9:00 "my slag or Flux is really basic" just in time for fall we find out Jason uses a pumpkin spice slag mix. ❤️🤣
I think this was the most interesting and educational video you have done. Thanks for making this video.
Blows my mind how you do all that and makes me wonder how they figured to smelt thousands yrs ago
Jason, I have been binge watching your channel more than Netflix. Love your videos and experiments.
If I come over to US begginning of 2023 I'll come visit.
I'm impressed . I've wondered about the content of various materials in the slag .
Cool video Jason. Never thought about this one. At the very least, you get to recover your 5 gallon buckets ; )
Absolutely love watching your videos. Thank you so much for sharing your adventures with us. It's appreciated.
You should try to get ahold of Sreetips, and see if he would be willing to refine it chemically (liquid) for you. He does a lot of experiments in figuring out the silver/gold content of things.
I second this motion, this would be a cool opportunity for a collaborative project
I love these kinds of videos from my gold channels. I usually watch wet refinging videos so this is a little different. Good stuff, thanks again. EDIT, your furnace looks like Chernobyl, under the reactor.
yup essentially what Chernobyl was. molten heavy metals mixing with concrete and slag.. just Chernobyl is much heavier metals not to forget its radioactive
This is better than any NCIS show... If you can get reading on that metal, how much gold is in it... Looks very silvery, but even 2 % of gold is double the money...
In our smelting operation we pour off 120kg of silver and gold mix, send slabs of that off to the Perth mint to be refined, yeah, we make a pretty penny from our dirt :) well... dirt from around the world.
that's the cool part about keeping your tailings, slag, and old crucibles, nothing is ever lost if you can remember or figure out how to get it :D
New member here. I saw the video you and Dan did together. I was impressed. Thanks for posting part of your experiences.
Amazing video, should do a collab with Sreetips on youtube. Maybe he could take your lead scrap and further see if anything is in it? Possibly looking for other precious metals also. Does make you wonder also how much the older timers left behind doing this stuff. I bet there is so much money just lying on the ground in piles probably more money in re-refining old scrap than fresh mining lol.
It definitely wouldn't hurt to refine the old stuff already here.
There are companies that rework old mine tailing piles, to get the gold the miners missed. They generally use cyanide leaching to extract the gold.
I liked before even watching because I love the idea behind the video so much. Now let's finish watching this 9 month old video :D
Great video Jason! You are truly The Mad Rock Scientist! If you get a chance see if you can run that bead under an XRF gun see what the actual content is.
Thanks much. That is a LOT of work.
Very cool. And you got that inquiring mind where you did the extra work for fun and experimenting. Fun video thank you.
I really enjoy watching your videos and learning about the processes. I would like to see a video of how you separate gold and silver from a single, precious metals button.
Jason, I appreciate all your channels and all your videos. Thank you so much so insightful so educational.
I just bought that exact metal furnace a few months ago, it's small but I love it! It's my second furnace ever
Jason, as long as u do it soon, u might wanna filter that water in a ibc, it's loaded with probably palladium. Might cement out on copper 1- 2ozt per liter maybe.
Awesome video as always! Keep it up. 👍🏻
If you're looking for the culprit for your missing gold, I'd keep my eye on that Dan Hurd guy, he's shifty looking.
Jason seriously you are amazing! Thank you for being so freaking awesome!
I would like to see a sample of around the ground by the jaw crusher. Curious how much is lost in the dust and spills. Sure it’s minimal but would be interesting.
Really enjoyed this video! Second time through. Thanks for sharing!
Just found this channel from watch Dan your set up is so cool can't wait to watch all your videos 😀
My first thought when you finished describing your run for today was "PLEASE wear a respiratory this time! Like, some of those materials in the past weren't too bad but this run looks extreme spicy.
I was happy to see him wearing a mask too. An I'm getting sick right now respiratory type an I had to cough from just watching it lol take care of it lungs an body you only get one.
@@ronniewilliz153 well two lungs but that are usually the only set you get as you said
An awesome video, great to see you recover that! It pays not to trow away PM refining waste
Didn’t you used to have a scanner that would give you an idea of the metal percentages in a sample? I haven’t seen that in a while. Really cool to seen how much you can recover from what was basically garbage. Never seen that colour before for the slag. Where did the green come from? Copper?
Scanner is an XRF i think. Xray flourescence.
A mate of his has an XRF. They're a relatively expensive bit of kit.
I think he explained in one video that yes copper can offer a different colour and greenish slag, but so can the ph affect the colour as well. So knowing your chemistry is very important because in one of his electronic waste smelts he attributed the green slag to being nickel contamination. Iron can produce a green colour too but only when its unoxydised.
An xrf gun or scanner starts at around US $15,000 to $25,000, new.
I looked them up. I couldn't find estimates on how much used scanners are running.
That particular green is 100% a copper oxide species.
Foghorn leghorn in the background 👍👍👍 that's cool 👍👍
Pyro-chemistry is the best chemistry. Also - that "soapy" feeling is the Sodium Hydroxide extracting fat from your skin... so you might want to use a moisturizer.
I love watching these kind of videos. Keep it up!
If you spray your cone mold with silicone spray it'll pretty much fall out after it cools. Silicone spray is used as a mold release agent for all different kinds of things and I've had really good luck using it to make my own ice fishing sounders.
Silicone is only stable up to about 600 deg F or so. I can guarantee they would break down at the almost white hot temperatures used for melting most metals.
This was a really great experiment/video Jason!
it is good that you take the time to collect the lead. also it is a very interesting chemistry experiment.
i know this is an older video but please, get proper poring tongs, it will prolong the durability of your crucibles.
The rooster in the background had me looking around our place for someone's missing rooster haha!
Have you considered a collaboration vid with NileRed to separate and refine the individual metals?
Listen man at first i was on my high horse with all those newish equipment you got thinking kinda down on ya like a sore ass loser.. But dude this entire video was just so fun to watch... Love watching all those pyramid head bashing! First vid i seen of yours and i liked and subscribed.. Cool as hell... Wish you the best, and looking forward to more! (I bet i have alot of vids to look through tho!)
Don't forget when you processed my silver sweeps. There might have been some from that as well.
your one of the utubers i dont mind long vids, I would buy one of the jaw crushers if i ever get out of the poverty I am in , I used to make my own glazes from granite
I know the big mining companies keep their slag. guy was at a huge gold mining company picked up up 1 of the mutiy million dollar bars and they also told him about the slag they keep. because it still has gold inside of it. it was for a documentary
supposed to turn your crucible all the way over, according to the old timers, since the heavies are at the bottom and it keeps your crucibles from having material run down the side and ruins them faster, just an old miners/assayers trick
VERY COOL EXPERIMENT, 70 GRAMS OF SILVER IS ALOT, WOW!!
2:20 that dust is precious
Very interesting and knowledgeable video for anyone who needs to do this. ❤️💛💚👍✌️
Really fun hobby. Clean up the shop and get a $50 coin at the end. All I got was a sore back and a pile of sawdust.
Excellent video! Thanks Jason.
Very cool and informative! Thank you.
I was Watching you the other day and I wondered how much gold you've got in the dirt around your setup I bet gold has already reached bedrock under your feet lol
Very interesting that it was 70 and ended up 70 im guessing it’s about a 75% silver 22% gold and 3 % copper/ nickel/ect hopefully you can find someone with an xrf gun and let us know. Thanks for sharing see you on the next one 👍🏼👊🏼
I'll put some good studying into the pyrocrafting lessons available. Thanks for the educational videos Jason
You really need a XRF to test the percentages of metals in a bead. That would be really interesting and really help you with your refining.
I just bought the highbanker. I'm leaving Monday to the mountains for a month to look for gold.
@25:00 The metals worth keeping are very beautiful when they're refined. I see the same thing on sreetips' channel as well. He uses chemical methods, and the solutions with pure metals have a distinct beauty that is not seen in the impure solutions.
Awesome video @Jason 📹 👏🏻 👌🏻
Hi Jason, Fantastic video!! I always learn something new watching your smelting vid's! Maybe your buddy with the XRF gun can zap the button for you?? If so, let us know. Fascinating process! Thank You!! Take Care, Jim
I know it could require a lot of effort but I'd love to see a recovery from your settling tank
Dont forget you have some platinum and palladium from the catalytic converters in there!
Awe video Jason, really solid information
That crucible looks like a hot bowl of Chili. Got a guy wanting some Frito pie like a mug right now. :D
Was thinking when you did the nitrate oxidation you needed to add some glass forming so the lead and copper had somewhere to go... Was concerned with the white smoke coming off that pour, would suspect it had a high lead content... potentially suboptimal.
On the other hand, not sure how hard that would make base metal recovery with iron.
On the third hand (don't ask where I'm getting these hands, it's gruesome), I've be contemplating electro refining once you have the metal. I am wondering if something like this would work...
Cast into a flat plate, use nitric acid as electrolyte and all the precious metals except silver should end up as sludge in the bottom.
Repeat with hydrochloric and that should drop out silver chloride.
Repeat with sulphuric acid or pH Down and that should drop out lead sulphide leaving copper zinc nickel...
I may have been thinking about this too much. I have plans to try this.
The color of that oxided copper ( i think it is copper ) is gorgeous.
Can't believe I almost missed this video. It's always fascinating to go back through tailings and see what you missed!
On a side note, the amount of lead dust and metal you're working with is terrifying. I know you're always careful and wear PPE, but have you ever had a blood test to check for lead?
I remember CodysLab getting a test for mercury after he had been working with it a lot, just to verify everything was in order.
Cody did it to prove he could dip his hands in it with no “ appreciable “ concentration in his blood. But this is still a thing he should do
Have you seen the workers in Africa he visited? I think he's pretty safe
@@automedoniliad3269 What even are you saying? People in Africa have terrible working conditions, and so he's fine breathing in lead dust? That doesn't make any sense dude.
Jason…. The chickens in the background ARE AWESOME to hear.
Well i do. Love your craziness. Wow. Good amount. Nice
for a source of silver, with such a large amount of lead recovered, there could be an amount accounted for by most common lead being contaminated with a bit of silver to start with.
That Rooster in the background cracks me up.
You should scoop up the dirt underneath the crush too.. might find some good stuff there
Thank you it was exciting! Booyah
That Rooster in the background had me wondering if we had an animl in the house
OOOhhhhhh, I've been waiting for this one.
I kept wondering how Sreetips would have processed all that 🤣 Its been a long day! I kept waiting for you to rinse out the cornflakes with some distilled water... 😋
There should be a way to do this where you recover the lead instead of just releasing it into the air to poison the environment. The easiest way I can think of would be to use acid to separate the lead from the precious metals like Cody Reeder has done on CodysLab numerous times. Instead of just "cornflaking" it run it through the hammer mill or your little mill and grind it into powder, that'll give you thousands of times more surface area and use far less potassium nitrate and I doubt you'll have to smelt it repeatedly.
Good video, very interesting.
Great video, thanks! Good luck! 👍
Jason, where u able to get Gold weight and or percentage?
Hope to see that refinement soon
This was a great video thanks for sharing!!