Changing the Auxiliary Battery for your LR4 Start-Stop System

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  • @malcolmdeeley7265
    @malcolmdeeley7265 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video, it's been ages since I did any kind of work on a car and the video gave me the confidence to proceed. All fixed!

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  9 місяців тому

      Hey Malcolm, thanks for the comment and support. Great to hear it helped you out. 👍

  • @Dieter.Reuter
    @Dieter.Reuter 2 роки тому +1

    Right in time I did found your video, I have the same issue on my 2016 D4 Landmark. Replacement battery is ordered now. Thanks for sharing all those details! 😎👍

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Dieter thanks for the comment, glad it helped out, let me know if all goes well 🤞👍

    • @Dieter.Reuter
      @Dieter.Reuter 2 роки тому +2

      @@Witty924 just exchanged the aux battery today (last one was from Feb'20). On a LHD D4 (German model) it's way easier to do - no need to unscrew the fuse, takes 10mins only, just need a 10mm nut with extension. ECO warning light is off and best thing now, all strange errors are gone after clearing it! 🤪
      Reminder: keep the batteries of your LR always charged and renew them regularly (main 5y, aux 2.5y), then most of your electronic issues will be gone! 🤓

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому +1

      @@Dieter.Reuter great to hear all went well and your LR is back fighting fit. Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @jameswaters5133
    @jameswaters5133 Рік тому +1

    Really useful video - thank you. Just changed mine today, all working fine now.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the comment and support James, great to hear it helped you out too. 👍

  • @jacquelynpetersen5583
    @jacquelynpetersen5583 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for doing this this is really useful and clear on how to remove it. Looks simple. Wish me luck! :)

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому

      Thanks for the comment and support Jacque, I hope it goes smoothly for you too 🤞

  • @jdloquax
    @jdloquax 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant! Had the eco light issue and using your instructions have managed to fix it. Great stuff 👏 👍

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the support and comment and Jason, and great to hear that the video helped out 👍

  • @bazza6662
    @bazza6662 Місяць тому +1

    Helpful video, I need to do this on my 2015 jaguar XF. The battery is identical, just under the boot on a jag.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Місяць тому

      @@bazza6662 thanks for the comment and support buzz. Hope the job goes smoothly on the jag 👍🤞

  • @kumbirayinyabereka5190
    @kumbirayinyabereka5190 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent video. 👌👍Thanks for sharing. My car's ECO light has also come on as well. So I guess I need to change mine too.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому

      Good luck Kum with the change, it's an easy job and well worth doing 👍

    • @tclodfelter8789
      @tclodfelter8789 2 роки тому

      Who knew...the ECO button is a "feature" that supposedly "saves gas"!?? It shuts the car off when it's at idle... like at a stop light. You can either take your foot off the brake and it'll auto start... OR ...TURN OFF the ECO button and NOT WORRY about it! WHAT DIPSH*T thought of this?

  • @PedroDeSwift
    @PedroDeSwift 2 роки тому +1

    BRILLIANT - Thankyou from Australia.
    What would have helped is to read out the OEM battery model so that an exact replacement could be made in advance - AND not so important:
    The hint regarding the 4 sided clip cover be at the start of your excellent AV as that would save people breaking it then discovering the caution .... assuming such people follow instructions 'by numbers' instead of watching fully FIRST (which of course is what I did)

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment and support Peter. Great points you make 👍

    • @PedroDeSwift
      @PedroDeSwift 2 роки тому +1

      @@Witty924 Interesting re the 2013 Australian Version of Disco4 HSE that we own - it doesn't seem to have a second battery nor the start/stop feature (thank god). Not in the rear, not in the engine bay, and doesn't start/stop anyway.
      This might help:
      Returning from NZ last monday night, the main battery (the only battery it seems) was completely dead, ie: 2v. What fun waiting for roadside assist after a long day and a 2 hr drive home. Apparently it is well known that these battery types just die, and in smaller vehicles, it is common for them to be waiting at the red lights, and when green ... NOTHING. That quick! Rear enders in that situation are now common.
      I noticed some months beforehand assorted warning symbols appear on the screen ( incl an irregular 'low battery must start') that made no sense. When departing for NZ in the drizzle (before battery death) the wipers entered 'spastic mode' and switched to high speed mode, and behaving oddly.
      I suggest that anybody seeing those warnings, that they do NOT switch off the engine and immediately get the main battery replaced ($500ish here) and whilst at it replace the second battery if fitted. Apparently OEM lasts @ 7 to 8 years (depends) and after market less (to be discovered!) but a rule of thumb is to replace the battery(ies) no more than every 4 years.
      I wonder why in todays world that LandRover can't code in a simple legible for normal people warning that battery death is imminent. Failing that - install battery type that doesn't suddenly die, as that is damned dangerous for all road users let alone inconvenient.
      Rockets can be sent to intercept asteroids, but 'we' can't even get this basic right.

  • @LesFletcher-gc7wb
    @LesFletcher-gc7wb 9 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video and clear instruction. On install 'stop/start' warning light disappeared. But the Auxiliary battery is still not working. I have currently only done short journeys since installed. Could this be the problem.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  9 місяців тому

      Hi Les, thanks for the comment and support. What model year is your LR4? Once a new battery has been installed the light should go out and stay out. Was your start stop working correctly before the new battery was installed? The LR4 start stop is not the best admittedly and even with a good battery can be temperamental. It won't hurt doing a few miles to double check but it maybe something more than the battery at fault. Let me know how you get on 🤞

  • @chrishill5166
    @chrishill5166 Рік тому +1

    Good tutorial. For information the pipe from the battery is a gas pipe. If it gasses under the bonnet it can lead to corrosion.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому

      Thanks Chris for the comment and support. Great advice too 👍

  • @jellekrijnders2012
    @jellekrijnders2012 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for these clear instructions! One thing I wonder... How did you keep the engine compartment so VERY clean!

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Jelle, thanks foe the comment 👍 I dont tend to do any major off roading so I think that might be why it's looking clean 🤞

    • @jellekrijnders2012
      @jellekrijnders2012 2 роки тому +1

      @@Witty924 One last question about this batter swap. Didn't you need to use a OBD tool to let the car "know" there is a new battery installed?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому +1

      @@jellekrijnders2012 Hi Jelle, no OBD tool is required, it's only the auxiliary battery for the start-stop so you shouldn't need to reprogramme anything on the car. If you are doing this on your car let me know how you get on 👍

  • @nync123
    @nync123 2 роки тому +1

    Great video thank you! Do you know what battery type it is so I can buy a replacement before hand? I don’t see it in the manual. Ty!

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому

      Hi Neil, thanks for the comment, I bought mine from Tanya Batteries here is the link via eBay for them www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273836223859 hope this helps 👍

  • @tclodfelter8789
    @tclodfelter8789 2 роки тому +2

    Another video gave a good tip for removing the 10mm bolt... use a small piece of double sided tape in the socket and the nut won't fall out when removing or reinstalling it!!

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому +1

      Great tip! you would have seen me use an extendable magnetic pen which did the trick nicely. Always a must-have when working on more modern engines and tight spaces 👍

    • @tclodfelter8789
      @tclodfelter8789 2 роки тому +1

      @@Witty924 On a GOOD NOTE LOL ... we discovered that my wife's LR4 "dying" was actually a "feature"!?? The "ECO" button stops the engine when you are at idle. Apparently you simply take your foot off the brake and it will self start! OR..DISENGAGE the ECO button and DRIVE LIKE A NORMAL PERSON!??? LOL

  • @m.cooper1854
    @m.cooper1854 4 місяці тому +1

    My 2014 Range Rover (full size) also has the auxiliary battery and its in the rear beside the rear fuse panel. The import auto parts dealers did not even have a listing for it. The dealer had it in stock. Prefer not to roll the dice on Ebay for electronics.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  4 місяці тому

      @@m.cooper1854 thanks for the comment and hope the job went OK. Good point on Ebay, always check the seller to ensure it's from a good trade seller who also sells on eBay. 👍

  • @cblack1green
    @cblack1green Рік тому +1

    Hi, do you know if this battery is charged from the alternator as well as the main battery.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому +1

      Hi chris thanks for the comment. So the short answer is partly. This link will give you the full run down on standard battery and auxiliary battery during car running conditions. Hope that helps 👍🤞 www.12voltplanet.co.uk/auxiliary-battery-charging-in-vehicles-with-smart-alternators.html

  • @alchristie2315
    @alchristie2315 2 роки тому +1

    Hi if the aux battery has not charged sufficiently, perhaps due to short trips, can this be charged in situ safely using mains charger without disconnecting?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому

      Hi Al, thanks for the comment and support. Generally with auxiliary batteries when they go bad there isnt a way of saving them. Short or long journey's wont make a difference as they dont run directly with the alternator as traditional batteries do. If its showing the light on the dash its generally time to change the battery. Hope that helps 👍

    • @alchristie2315
      @alchristie2315 2 роки тому

      @@Witty924 thanks for feedback. I’ve just checked the voltage across my aux battery and it’s 13.7V (engine off, no load) so this suggests it’s ok.
      My ECO light is on though, and there’s a P0615(13) fault code so I think I need to look elsewhere. Thanks anyway

  • @GautamChatterji
    @GautamChatterji 3 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant explanation

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  3 місяці тому +1

      @@GautamChatterji thanks for the comment and support 👍

  • @marissacastillo-br4mq
    @marissacastillo-br4mq Рік тому +1

    Would you happen to know where the auxiliary battery for 2018 Discovery is located please?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому +1

      Hi there, thanks for the comment. So I believe on the newer discovery, let's call it the discovery 5 ;). It has a capacitor module built into the main batteries in the rear of the car. So of you batteries are working well it could be this module that could be at fault if your stop start is playing up. Maybe worth just double checking on the landy forums 🤞

    • @marissacastillo-br4mq
      @marissacastillo-br4mq Рік тому +1

      Thank you very much for the information...I will check those forums as well. Car won't start and last time it had to do with the auxiliary battery post having issues.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому

      @@marissacastillo-br4mqhope you find the answer, let me know how you get on 🤞👍

  • @darkhorse8101
    @darkhorse8101 2 роки тому +1

    Great vid.. Question..I was reading that you had to tell the computer that a new aux battery was installed so as to not over charge it? Did you find this to be true?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, Dark thanks for the comment. No need to do anything with the onboard diagnostics the car will automatically pick up the new battery. That said the stop/start functionality on LR4 is very hit and miss and very rarely works well. 👍

  • @davidhall2298
    @davidhall2298 11 місяців тому +1

    Really useful. Thanks

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  11 місяців тому

      Thanks for the comment and support David. Great to hear the video helps. 👍

  • @madventure2318
    @madventure2318 2 роки тому +1

    Great video thanks for posting. Do you know if you can add start / stop function aftermarket pls? Something I would look at with my LR4. Cheers

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks MAD for the comment and support. I dontbthinknits worth the hassle to be honest, the system rarely works, I do not think it was a very well executed system they put on the final LR4s they seem very temperamental. 👍

    • @madventure2318
      @madventure2318 2 роки тому +1

      @@Witty924 cheers appreciate the response 👍

    • @alchristie2315
      @alchristie2315 2 роки тому +1

      To be honest, you should ask why would you want start stop at all!! I only want to get rid of the annoying ECO warning light; if I could do that and keep start/stop disabled I would.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому +1

      @@alchristie2315 agree Al, they dont seem to be great on the LR4. I havent seen or heard of a work around to delete it. 🤞

    • @AgentBrit
      @AgentBrit Рік тому

      Stay away from the eco start if I were you. They cause massive problems and don’t save that much in fuel anyway

  • @davidwalker575
    @davidwalker575 2 місяці тому +1

    What year LR4 did you fit this on?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 місяці тому +1

      @@davidwalker575 hi David, thanks for the comment. This was done on a 2016. 👍

    • @davidwalker575
      @davidwalker575 2 місяці тому +1

      Brilliant thank you. I just followed your video and fitted my own. The error code disappeared and the LR4 thinks stop/start is available but it is yet to actually work! Any advice?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 місяці тому

      @@davidwalker575 great to hear David. Did the start stop work before you changed the battery. I know the LR4 start stop is vey temperamental, many don't work as they should. If you have an OBD2 reader you could find there is a fault code that needs clearing potentially.

    • @davidwalker575
      @davidwalker575 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Witty924 thanks for the reply. OBD2 reader shows no fault but is failing when I try to reset the BMS. It’s been so long since it failed that I’ve forgotten how well it worked before. I’ll prob just chalk it up to needing a few more runs and it generally being a pretty pants feature to begin with

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 місяці тому

      @@davidwalker575 let me know if it kicks in, mine has a life of its own too 👍

  • @4MACH35L
    @4MACH35L 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Dear
    Can you hepl tell me whre is located
    Auxiliary battery for Range Rover sport 2011 model

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому

      Thanks doe the comment B 45 try under the engine bay and the plastic covers either side of the engine

    • @4MACH35L
      @4MACH35L 2 роки тому

      @@Witty924 okay
      Thanks

  • @simonchandra8026
    @simonchandra8026 10 місяців тому +1

    Did you have to code the battery in

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for comment and support Simon. No need to code the battery in. Should be good to go once the new one is fitted. 👍

  • @ld8778
    @ld8778 Рік тому +1

    Does anyone know what battery size and group this battery is? My part store can only find the primary battery for the 2015 LR4

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому +1

      Hi LD, this is the battery you need fornthe auxiliary battery. Just order from.ebay much cheaper and straight to your door 🤞👍 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273836223859
      Hope that helps!

    • @ld8778
      @ld8778 Рік тому +1

      @@Witty924 thank you. Will do.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому

      @@ld8778I hope it goes smoothly for you, let me know how you get on 👍

    • @ld8778
      @ld8778 Рік тому +1

      @@Witty924 thank you. Unfortunately I live in the states and these are hard to come by. Dealer quoted me $460 for the replacement. Unsure the current conversion to pounds for you guys, but I tell ya . That’s a lot of dough for a battery. I searched a local parts store and had minimal luck. I have one other local LR repair guy that sells the batteries. Hoping he can be of help.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому +1

      @@ld8778 ok that is crazy my friend. Surely the US has batteries of this sort as they are used on many types of cars. Have you done a quick search on ebay US site. Just look for 12v 15Ah 200A at a size of 150mm by 90mm by 145mm. Has to be some on there for you. 🤞

  • @tclodfelter8789
    @tclodfelter8789 Рік тому +1

    My wife's 2014 LR4 has an ECO transmission fault. The light stays on and can't be turned off. The battery was replaced last year and the car was reprogrammed. Can she drive it with this fault on?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому +1

      Hi tc, is it the ECO light in amber with the line through it? It could be the battery again. That said, its only the start stop functionality that the battery controls, so you should be fine driving it to your service centre for them to check or if you feel like you can change the battery yourself give it a go. I hope that helps 🤞👍

    • @tclodfelter8789
      @tclodfelter8789 Рік тому +1

      @@Witty924 She also has a "transmission fault" warning indicator (triangle) I'm in Ohio and she's in Texas!! We just replace the Aux battery and cables last year! The previous owner put in a motorcycle battery and did the Appalachian Application! LOL So we just replaced the battery and cables with the required equipment. Someone else said the main battery could be low and that could cause the "transmission fault" indicator!?? It's impossible for me to know anything for sure from here and trying to do everything over the phone with her. Thanks for your support!!

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому +1

      @@tclodfelter8789 Got it, did the transmission light come on while driving or when stationary? If it was when stationary it could be as you say a low main battery, potentially, it could also be a number of different sensors that could be faulty. let me know how you get on 🤞

    • @tclodfelter8789
      @tclodfelter8789 Рік тому +1

      @@Witty924 Thanks! It came on when she turned the car on this morning. She's going to take it into a European car place in San Antonio on Monday! works on base so f she needed to she can walk to work... it's about 3 blocks from her hotel.

  • @tclodfelter8789
    @tclodfelter8789 2 роки тому +1

    Another video said some modules can be affected when the aux battery is replaced and it needs to be reprogrammed!??

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому +2

      This maybe dependant on the year model you have. Mine is a 2016 last year model build of the LR4, I had no issues or need to reprogramme anything on the car once I replaced the auxiliary battery. Did the change, turned ignition on, all is well and works correctly. Hope this helps 👍

    • @tclodfelter8789
      @tclodfelter8789 2 роки тому +1

      @@Witty924 Thanks...that's good to know. I'm in Ohio and my wife and the car are in Texas

  • @mitchr5219
    @mitchr5219 Рік тому +1

    Did you disconnect your main battery?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the comment Mitch. I didnt on this occasion but as with anything battery related be careful not to cross anything that shouldn't be crossed 👍

  • @Texasborn45
    @Texasborn45 Рік тому +1

    What is the code for this battery, it has 3/8 in terminals and is 6 in high, 6 in long and 3 and 3/4
    Wide. What is the part number commercially in exude? He never shows it

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому

      Hi Texas, thanks for the comment. So here in the UK I went for the Tayna EXIDE EK151 AGM AUXILIARY CAR BATTERY. Hopefully they can supply to your location too 🤞👍

  • @Home_made_ch
    @Home_made_ch Рік тому +1

    Is this battery affecting abs?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому

      Hi Chalki, thanks for the comment. No this is for the start stop functionality. Hope that helps. 👍

  • @alwillz1
    @alwillz1 Місяць тому +1

    do i need to reset the BMS too?

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Місяць тому +1

      @@alwillz1 hi Al, you shouldn't have to do anything, the car should read the new battery and the fault light should turn off on the dash cluster. Has that happened for you?

    • @alwillz1
      @alwillz1 Місяць тому +1

      @@Witty924 Not yet.... just trying to cxharge it up first to see if i need a replacement or not. I have read on other forums that yiou need to do a full BMS update for the warning light to go off.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Місяць тому

      @@alwillz1 What year is your car? is this the first time you have had to change it? Let me know if the charge holds.

    • @alwillz1
      @alwillz1 20 днів тому +1

      @Witty924 charge no held annoyingly, so new battery needed. its a 2016 LR4.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  19 днів тому

      @@alwillz1 I hope the battery change goes smoothly for you 🤞

  • @MHWaseem
    @MHWaseem 2 роки тому +1

    Super useful 👌

  • @tclodfelter8789
    @tclodfelter8789 2 роки тому +1

    We bought a used 2014 LR4 and it will stop at a light. Is that normal? Someone said this is a "fuel saving" design???

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  2 роки тому

      Hi T thanks for the comment and support. So yes the start stop should stop the engine when you stop at lights if the systems works correctly. Sometimes it may not. The LR4 system is very temperamental and not the best. It's designed to save fuel as you say. Hope this helps 👍

  • @rodpetrie1088
    @rodpetrie1088 Рік тому +1

    A bit difficult to see the detail of what you are actually doing, at least from an amateur perspective.

    • @Witty924
      @Witty924  Рік тому

      Hi Rod, thanks for the comment and support. I know I fixed the camera in one position which might not capture the full details at the beginning. In short, it's just 2 bolts that hold the positive wire to the battery and then a single for the negative. from there the bracket removal is straightforward. hope that helps 🤞