C Webb is loving the show when Zeke is there, the respect and admiration is just amazing. Also Smitty and Grant have their Detroit stuff. A must see for a Detroit basketball fan. The city had a lot of greats.
@@ahmedfarid8721 Funny thing is on the court Jordan and Pippen were seen as the good guy meanwhile Zeke gave back so much to the community. Helping out kids and such Chris and a lot of the kids in Detroit met Zeke as kids
@ahmed farid no, Jordan has respect for his game, not the person. Isaiah Thomas was a snake but aftwr retirement he tries to change his reputation and plays the victim. Don't forget his comment about Magic after he retired because of HIV and he was suppose toxbe one of magucs best friends, or the Larry Bird comment abiut him being regular if he wasn't white, orbshutting out MJ in the allstar game because he was jealous of Michael being his hometown hero instead of him. Let's not forget the Jordan rules.
That must be an almost proud moment for Isiah , knowing how he affected a young person at the time and to see what he became and then a peer and after all those years Steve Smith said you taught me that around the 12:45 mark. Same thing for Domnique to hear that Steve wore 21 because of him & Chris Webber idolized him as well.
Webber's signature was posting up far away on the left side. The guards would cut under the hoop and he would do a behind the back wrap around pass. The other teams couldn't stop it because they never saw it coming.
Eurostep is a signature move that's so cool to do in casual walking. When the lane is blocked because in front are two or more people as if they're walking on a park or feeling models on a catwalk, I put that quick Eurostep so to passed by them. Thank you for sharing. And great episode. Any audience can see and appreciate how huge a difference is when there's no Kenny Smith.
@@mvoulgaropoulos your just thinking way too hard those dudes love Ernie I mean the man almost died from cancer and chuck was so happy Ernie still showed up to his hall of fame announcement
@@roboninja3194 Can you imagine MJ sitting around trying to brag about his glory days? I can’t. I figure he knows you know the number of rings, you’ve seen the highlights, you see the logo, and now you see the new MVP trophy. He also knows he beat all these cats. When you’re the real GOAT, OTHER PEOPLE do the talking for you.
An open court episode about the big men now and focus on Giannis, Embiid and the Joker and comparing them to each other comparing them to other bigs in the NBA now and before will be a great one ..
I remember the first time seeing the Jordan jump lol Our coach, played it for us lol One day. We were doing something, like coming up with a strategy or something, and he played the whole thing. The shot on Ehlo, the bucket, and the jump lol I remember he was like man look how high he jumped lol That was iconic.
I was thinking about how funny it is that Jordan would never be sitting in a situation like this, waxing nostalgic. He doesn’t have to relive the glory days. His six rings say it all. His highlights and his brand keep him relevant as well.
Cowens ran Jabbar ragged in the 74 finals which Boston won. The key to stopping the skyhook was to disrupt his rhythm and/or balance, and but not enough guys did that. You weren't gonna stop it over the top. Also coming up behind him on the double team would have been very effective because he needed a lot of space to get that thing off, like a jumbo jet requires more runway space than smaller planes.
Love this episode three moves that i love that weren't mentioned are, Duncan bank shot from the elbow, Lebron chase down block, and Shaq backdown spin dunk
I had a comment feud on UA-cam about when Jordan got crossed by Iverson. My point was it wasn't seen in the league really and that's why it worked on Jordan. They were saying Jordan was old and that's why it worked. You decide.
Sky Hook! Walking pigeon toed into parties is hilarious. Good lord. These guys roast each other hard! Isiah still talking shit at 57 like he’s 18! Gotta love this. Don’t forget Andre Miller. Tough guy to defend.
The skyhook was unguardable for normal players. A way past his prime Wilt Chamberlain blocked it twice in 2 seconds.. Also...Wilt had finger rolls, and mid-range fade aways...
@@Top-Kek I'm not a Wilt stan or fan of any man besides my father. I posted what I posted because I saw Wilt block the shot 3 times in 1 game. You fans of other men are hilarious to me, jumping to baseless assumptions to defend a man when no defense is needed.
I LOVE this topic...but I CANNOT enjoy this episode for the simple fact that the main host is Matt instead of EJ. Honestly....Matt is really, reeeeeeeally bad at doing this job. Sooo bad, it's distracting.
Uh, you’re missing a name on the finger roll chart there Marc…Cornelius “Connie” Hawkins. Even Ice Man said Hawk was an inspiration for his finger roll.
There was a guy who played back in the 80's and 90's, I think his name was Michael or something like that, he had some REALLY good moves. He was super quick to the basket and could drive through, past, and around 2 or 3 guys and dunk it. Then when he got a little older he had this unstoppable fade away. I wish I could remember his last name....darn. I guess these guys forgot his name too.
@@ddave7026 when he was old as fuck dude lol only legit one id say is blake. johnson fouled him and the Vince one wasn't a dirk fade away and again he was near 40! still unstoppable move in his prime
@@markjordan5478 Wilt and Russel were extraordinary, but rodman was only like 6'7" in there battling with the bigs so he's the only argument to bill and wilt that i'll listen to. Didn't wilt average 30 one year?
Tear drop of Larry Bird is the best not Jackson. One legged shot is not from Dirk but it's from Bird, Stepback jumpshot and stepback 3 are from Larry bird not from harden.
@@jamespenny9482 Probably he invented those moves (if not) he was the one who popularized step back 2 or 3, one legged jump shot, or the floater... even the fade away from the 3 pt area
While yes dirk didn't invent the move hes the only one one who does as exaggerated dirk would be horizontal to the ground practically while shooting that fadeaway. Bird sig in all honesty would be that stationary kinda jab step back in the midrange. Harden definitely evolved the stepback to more of a step side ways and then just turned it into a travel eventually
Nonsense. It's 100% natural to kick the right leg out when shooting over the right shoulder, it's amazing how it works and helps with balance. Jordan did it. The NBA is STUPID to call that an offensive foul, but then the NBA is stupid about a lot of things.
Didn't need to be blocked. The skyhook had 3 major requirements: a lot of room for him to sweep that thing up and around (although he did a good job of keeping it as compact as possible), and a greater dependence on balance, and rhythm. So the way to stop him was to disrupt his balance and/or his rhythm or have help behind him to poke the ball away as he brought it up to shoot. But guys didn't defend him that way, they just basically boxed him out in case he missed. Dave Cowens had good success against him by running him ragged as he did in the '74 finals which Boston won.
@@jamespenny9482 Kareem HIMSELF specified Nate Thurmond as the toughest defender he ever faced - because Nate would force Kareem out of his "comfort zone" with the SkyHook or even his Jump Hook consistently, AND had the length and jumping ability to block Kareem if Kareem got sloppy on his shots. Sadly - like Kareem - Nate had seasons he played in where blocks were not counted, and is WAY lower on the all-time list than he should be as a result. Even an OLDER Nate was a good shot blocker - there's a reason he recorded the first "official" Quad Double in the very first season that blocks WERE counted. IMO there's a very real possibility that Nate should be as high as #3 on the all time list (behind Wilt and Bill) with Kareem DEFINITELY ahead of Hakeem in the Top 5.
@@jamespenny9482 Shaq was stopped for 2-3 quarters one game by RODMAN. He relied too much on his size and mass, and not on his skills. Probably the most dominant center of his era, but he didn't have a LOT of competition for most of that era. Old Hakeem could argue the point against young Shaq, and I seem to recall David and Tim being able to do well against him.
C Webb’s deadpan “my signature move was getting buckets when I needed one” is always hilarious to me
And people thought he was joking but he looked dead serious 🤣🤣🤣
Except when he needed to in bound the ball ☠️☠️
that's because it wasn't deadpan, it was dead serious. But it also totally didn't work.
He used to destroy the Lakers
Dr. J and Jordan had some greatest move
Why is this show not on anymore. One of the best sport shows ever. To listen to NBA greats share there stories.
C Webb is loving the show when Zeke is there, the respect and admiration is just amazing. Also Smitty and Grant have their Detroit stuff.
A must see for a Detroit basketball fan. The city had a lot of greats.
Yes we did. Too bad Joe Dumars fucked it up after 2006
@@elbowgang9715 He fucked it up when he drafted Darko
@@mvoulgaropoulos he let ben wallace go.
@@elbowgang9715 He brought you a chip in 2004 tho!
Chris webber has so much respect for isiah thomas i love it
Some proper hero worship going on!
They all do actually
The only people who seem to hate on him are Jordan and Pippen
@@ahmedfarid8721 yeah its just old hate, Isiah is a legend.
@@ahmedfarid8721 Funny thing is on the court Jordan and Pippen were seen as the good guy meanwhile Zeke gave back so much to the community. Helping out kids and such Chris and a lot of the kids in Detroit met Zeke as kids
@ahmed farid no, Jordan has respect for his game, not the person. Isaiah Thomas was a snake but aftwr retirement he tries to change his reputation and plays the victim. Don't forget his comment about Magic after he retired because of HIV and he was suppose toxbe one of magucs best friends, or the Larry Bird comment abiut him being regular if he wasn't white, orbshutting out MJ in the allstar game because he was jealous of Michael being his hometown hero instead of him. Let's not forget the Jordan rules.
That must be an almost proud moment for Isiah , knowing how he affected a young person at the time and to see what he became and then a peer and after all those years Steve Smith said you taught me that around the 12:45 mark.
Same thing for Domnique to hear that Steve wore 21 because of him & Chris Webber idolized him as well.
Webber's signature was posting up far away on the left side. The guards would cut under the hoop and he would do a behind the back wrap around pass. The other teams couldn't stop it because they never saw it coming.
I'm glad C Webb brought up Rod Strickland ...That dude could ball.
And u see it from his Godson Kyrie
Duncan's post ups with the off the glass..
blank stare😐
The Sikma Move is showing in Jokic's game... That's why he is a good shooter and post player.
Jack Sikma !?!?
@@paulv7744 lol… i heard isiah thomas.. 😂😂😂😂
Dream shake for me, the old footage of Olajuwons footwork is insane. Strong yes but LIGHTING FAST. Totally unguardable
Eurostep is a signature move that's so cool to do in casual walking.
When the lane is blocked because in front are two or more people as if they're walking on a park or feeling models on a catwalk, I put that quick Eurostep so to passed by them.
Thank you for sharing.
And great episode. Any audience can see and appreciate how huge a difference is when there's no Kenny Smith.
Zeek was so petty with that Larry Bird shot at Nique "Tell us bout Larry Bird Nique" 😂😂😂😂
Nique should've came back with, "Remember when Bird stole the ball from that pass you threw?"
😅
Cause he was torchin his a**😂😂😂
Isiah is an extremely petty person. Has been his entire career.
Damn....never realized how important Ernie was till now...yikes!!😬
@@mvoulgaropoulos Yeah for some reason Ernie rubs me the wrong way too sometimes. Why do you say he's fake?
@@mvoulgaropoulos your just thinking way too hard those dudes love Ernie I mean the man almost died from cancer and chuck was so happy Ernie still showed up to his hall of fame announcement
@@mvoulgaropoulos yeah if you watch Barkley’s hall of fame speech you can look at em and tell he was going through it
Ernie is a great person. He came back and beat cancer.
Seriously, very tough stuff for this other guy trying to host....yikes
I’ve always had a creative mind and been a natural athlete. I didn’t realize how many players were incorporated into my game and how I played.
Surprised they didn't mention MJ fadeaway. Cause that shot was unguardable
Nique and Zeke don’t like talking positive about Jordan unless they have to.
I can listen to these guys 24/7, 365 days/year!!
Amazing they did not mention MJ's fade away. Kobe basically built his whole game on it.
Not amazing at all. Zeke and Nique don’t like giving props to Jordan. They do it reluctantly if they ever do.
@@pkim23 Yea cause Isiah is still salty holding a grudge 30 years later. Sounds like a wonderful person to be around 😂
@@roboninja3194 Can you imagine MJ sitting around trying to brag about his glory days? I can’t. I figure he knows you know the number of rings, you’ve seen the highlights, you see the logo, and now you see the new MVP trophy. He also knows he beat all these cats. When you’re the real GOAT, OTHER PEOPLE do the talking for you.
An open court episode about the big men now and focus on Giannis, Embiid and the Joker and comparing them to each other comparing them to other bigs in the NBA now and before will be a great one ..
This was quite enjoyable to watch from start to finish
MJ had the best "crooked leg" move in Game 1 of the '92 Finals. He split Drexler and Cliff Robinson and pulled up from about 18 feet.
Detroit/Michigan strong on this episode Isaiah Webber G.Hill Smitty
Best defensive signature moves? Rick Mahorn "pulling the chair".
Man these episodes with Elevator Ernie Johnson just aren't the same.
I remember the first time seeing the Jordan jump lol Our coach, played it for us lol One day. We were doing something, like coming up with a strategy or something, and he played the whole thing. The shot on Ehlo, the bucket, and the jump lol I remember he was like man look how high he jumped lol That was iconic.
Jordan’s Fade-away the best move ever the best player ever
I was thinking about how funny it is that Jordan would never be sitting in a situation like this, waxing nostalgic. He doesn’t have to relive the glory days. His six rings say it all. His highlights and his brand keep him relevant as well.
The best signature move of all time is the sky hook. It’s unstoppable and no one has been good at it since.
Wilt blocked it a bunch of times before. To be fair he's probably the freakiest basketball player ever
Cowens ran Jabbar ragged in the 74 finals which Boston won. The key to stopping the skyhook was to disrupt his rhythm and/or balance, and but not enough guys did that. You weren't gonna stop it over the top. Also coming up behind him on the double team would have been very effective because he needed a lot of space to get that thing off, like a jumbo jet requires more runway space than smaller planes.
Ernie is a lot better than whatever clown they got in there
Love this episode three moves that i love that weren't mentioned are, Duncan bank shot from the elbow, Lebron chase down block, and Shaq backdown spin dunk
22:16
George Gervin would have learned the finger roll from Wilt, for whom it was a signature before George was playing in the ABA.
I want to see an episode of the best draft classes
The A.i. crossover 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
tim hardaway crossover
@@jamesrick7351 it’s named the utep two step!! But Isaiah’s crossover was ten times faster and tighter than even hardaways!!
Grant was just sitting there enjoying the legends talk ball
3:43 I died when I saw that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is no doubt what was the greatest signature move of all time and is used every game. Earl Monroe's spin.
This was the first podcast now every nba player has one miss this set
Dirk one legged fadeaway and Hakeem dream shake should be 1 and 2
When the guys gave that mmmmm sound when Dominique mentioned Bernard King…. You know Bernard was the truth!
I had a comment feud on UA-cam about when Jordan got crossed by Iverson. My point was it wasn't seen in the league really and that's why it worked on Jordan. They were saying Jordan was old and that's why it worked. You decide.
Sky Hook!
Walking pigeon toed into parties is hilarious. Good lord. These guys roast each other hard!
Isiah still talking shit at 57 like he’s 18! Gotta love this.
Don’t forget Andre Miller. Tough guy to defend.
The skyhook was unguardable for normal players. A way past his prime Wilt Chamberlain blocked it twice in 2 seconds.. Also...Wilt had finger rolls, and mid-range fade aways...
Top 5 signature moves! Kareem skyhook, MJ/Kobe turn around fadeaway, Hakeem dream shake, Dirk one leg fadeaway, Tim Duncan bank shot!
19:30 "and then he gowwwn" that caveman face he's pullin as he's saying that looool.
Love the Rod Strickland shout out. He was problem.
Here's a question for Open Court.
What was it like the first time you faced THE SKY HOOK?
Mark Sheppard , ask Wilt Chamberlain, he didn’t think it was unstoppable.
@@wallacepemberton932 head-to-head Kareem outplayed wilt in the playoffs 😂 you wilt stans are hilarious y’all think he’s God
@@Top-Kek I'm not a Wilt stan or fan of any man besides my father. I posted what I posted because I saw Wilt block the shot 3 times in 1 game. You fans of other men are hilarious to me, jumping to baseless assumptions to defend a man when no defense is needed.
@@Top-Kek obviously, it was prime Kareem vs old Wilt after major knee surgery
@@clubpenguin13531 23 years old is not NBA prime.
Kevin McHale isn't there but after not boxing out Nique Larry told him, "you better box him out huh Kev"
I LOVE this topic...but I CANNOT enjoy this episode for the simple fact that the main host is Matt instead of EJ. Honestly....Matt is really, reeeeeeeally bad at doing this job. Sooo bad, it's distracting.
At least it’s not Molly. She’d be screaming over the legends giving her two cents.
What happened
How about james worthy first step move/spin move was one of the best.
Gervin, Erving and Wilt were the finger roll.
The one move that is used in every game to this day. Earl Monroe's spin.
Uh, you’re missing a name on the finger roll chart there Marc…Cornelius “Connie” Hawkins. Even Ice Man said Hawk was an inspiration for his finger roll.
jordan's fadeaway and dirk's fadeaway left the chat
10"35 I want someone to look at me the way C-Webb looks at Isiah
Steve colpter, chris jackson, rob strickland, grant hill, steve smith, joe johnson, tony parker, kawhi leonard, isiah thomas
Dominique "He was gone" Wilkins.
tony parker’s spin was unfair
"The crooked leg has made a previous appearance on Open Court"
Dude, shut up and let these legends talk!
Dominic Dragotto 😂😂😂💯
40:40 best move is the dream shake or sky hook
Dominique had me dyin with the hand gesture.
5:18 I never realized Nique did that until Zeke brought it up.
There's footage of Wilt blocking Kareems skyhook
wish this show was back kn the air
This is Isiah Thomas at his best
did Chris jackson get a mention or is it just me
Really good episode
Just like c webb I had Dominique and big daddy kane on my wall
did isiah ever play in the rucker league because he seems like a guy who would play in the rucker
Love them hawks jerseys well old school jerseys
Wonderful segment
Kareem !
Mr. Wilkins loves the game more than culture.
There was a guy who played back in the 80's and 90's, I think his name was Michael or something like that, he had some REALLY good moves. He was super quick to the basket and could drive through, past, and around 2 or 3 guys and dunk it. Then when he got a little older he had this unstoppable fade away. I wish I could remember his last name....darn. I guess these guys forgot his name too.
One of the best episodes
got to see Curly Neal and the trotters years ago
I would say kyrie comes closest to using all the glass like GG.
That’s true. But Iceman’s finger roll was a piece of art. Looked so beautiful
15:43 how to do the inside box cross over is there any example video
2:34 Webber attempts to sound savage. But everybody cracks up laughing lol. Lovely segment.
Ernie gotta host cause he loves roast
Matt Winer? Where is Erny???
not one mention of the MJ fadeaway?
C Webb worships ground of Isiah Thomas. Webb respects his nba elders.
best signature move got to be MJ/kobe fadeaway or Kareem hook shot.
Did you say fade away and not Dirk Nowitzki in the that statement?
@@MountDew21 it aint the best thou
His fade away is the best. Nobody can touch it and Kobe even started using Dirk's over his own.
@@MountDew21 you sure?
ua-cam.com/video/bsGQZ2p-XHg/v-deo.html
@@ddave7026 when he was old as fuck dude lol only legit one id say is blake. johnson fouled him and the Vince one wasn't a dirk fade away and again he was near 40! still unstoppable move in his prime
12:48 ... Isaiah does not remember lol.
Lmao
I knew i had a signature move 😂
Kareem had the best footwork move, because he can score away from the basket.
Better than MJ or for Kareem’s era?
6:00
I'm tempted to say that Dominique's signature move was getting a 3 pointer shot in his face by Larry Bird.
9-)
Russell, Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Curry.
You'd never beat me.
Lets talk about best rebounder of all time
Imo KG
@@juantwotree5710 u mean Rodman
@@robny716 Wilt and Russel were best rebounders bar none. They averaged over 22 a game, ridiculous. Rodman averaged like 18 one yr maybe.
Wilt by far next
@@markjordan5478 Wilt and Russel were extraordinary, but rodman was only like 6'7" in there battling with the bigs so he's the only argument to bill and wilt that i'll listen to. Didn't wilt average 30 one year?
Elvin hayes turnaround jumper
Pearl Monroe had the first Euro Step.
Dominique is a cool mo fo
First episode without Ernie 😭
mvoulgaropoulos I agree. Ppl be hating but Matt held it down
Larry legend 🐐
tim hardaway crossover
2:43
Jump hooks are blockable - just not EASY.
Kinda like Kareem's sky hook....
damn no mention of pistol pete or julius
marcs transitions are a a bit off.. abruptly ends the topic to point a new topic.. elevator ernie are much smoother! just saying..
I agree with that. This topic is actually cool but because he abruptly ends it, it becomes less enjoyable.
Tear drop of Larry Bird is the best not Jackson. One legged shot is not from Dirk but it's from Bird, Stepback jumpshot and stepback 3 are from Larry bird not from harden.
Larry's ball was so sick, it just hung up there and then splash! Jokic too.
@@jamespenny9482 Probably he invented those moves (if not) he was the one who popularized step back 2 or 3, one legged jump shot, or the floater... even the fade away from the 3 pt area
While yes dirk didn't invent the move hes the only one one who does as exaggerated dirk would be horizontal to the ground practically while shooting that fadeaway. Bird sig in all honesty would be that stationary kinda jab step back in the midrange. Harden definitely evolved the stepback to more of a step side ways and then just turned it into a travel eventually
Dang I forgot about that Miller foot/leg kick. Now I remember why I didn't like him as a player lol
That was some BS that he got away with that.
Nonsense. It's 100% natural to kick the right leg out when shooting over the right shoulder, it's amazing how it works and helps with balance. Jordan did it. The NBA is STUPID to call that an offensive foul, but then the NBA is stupid about a lot of things.
24:17
Good phrasing, as the Skyhook DID get blocked a few times - but not often.
Didn't need to be blocked. The skyhook had 3 major requirements: a lot of room for him to sweep that thing up and around (although he did a good job of keeping it as compact as possible), and a greater dependence on balance, and rhythm. So the way to stop him was to disrupt his balance and/or his rhythm or have help behind him to poke the ball away as he brought it up to shoot. But guys didn't defend him that way, they just basically boxed him out in case he missed. Dave Cowens had good success against him by running him ragged as he did in the '74 finals which Boston won.
@@jamespenny9482 Kareem HIMSELF specified Nate Thurmond as the toughest defender he ever faced - because Nate would force Kareem out of his "comfort zone" with the SkyHook or even his Jump Hook consistently, AND had the length and jumping ability to block Kareem if Kareem got sloppy on his shots.
Sadly - like Kareem - Nate had seasons he played in where blocks were not counted, and is WAY lower on the all-time list than he should be as a result.
Even an OLDER Nate was a good shot blocker - there's a reason he recorded the first "official" Quad Double in the very first season that blocks WERE counted.
IMO there's a very real possibility that Nate should be as high as #3 on the all time list (behind Wilt and Bill) with Kareem DEFINITELY ahead of Hakeem in the Top 5.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Maybe so. What about Shaq?
@@jamespenny9482 Shaq was stopped for 2-3 quarters one game by RODMAN.
He relied too much on his size and mass, and not on his skills.
Probably the most dominant center of his era, but he didn't have a LOT of competition for most of that era.
Old Hakeem could argue the point against young Shaq, and I seem to recall David and Tim being able to do well against him.
12:30 hahahah CWebb gave the height and weight
22:19
Klay, aldridge, mchale, hakeem