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Range Time! Shooting the Indian 2A1 SMLE Rifle in 7.62x51mm. Featuring Devin K
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2020
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Not in service as a reserve for Indian military although it can still be found as main armament for state police service basically your county and local law enforcement who are responsible for day to day activities. While state police force who are like state level gendarmerie and central paramilitary forces (national police equivalent) under home ministry (state department equivalent) are armed with insas and akm (replaced by ak 203) respectively. 5.56 and 7.62x51 are still the main infantry calibres for indian military while 7.62r is used by the t90/t72/bmp2 and svd's issued to snipers which is being replaced by sig 7.62x51 rifle. While fn fal or locally called slr is the reserve rifle usually issued as 1 or 2 per squad. Still unsure whether it is metric or inch pattern.
Thanks for this information, its nice to know!
As far as I know it's all metric, the IOF retooled for metric and NATO standards after 1947, SLR is a metric version of the British L1A1
@@lesliecat209 its mix of inch and metric. So your FAL and British L1A1 parts wont work. India approached FN for the FAL but the belgians demanded lot of money and demanded that India must buy Belgian machinery and employ Belgians.
So, India "procurred" the FAL and the L1A1 reversed engineered it and came up with the SLR. Basically its a mix of Metric and Inch patterns so that the Indian SLR cannot have any FAL or L1A1 parts.
This was done to pacify the Belgians who had escalated this to a diplomatic row, India also purchased more FN MAG then.
Fun fact, our old M1917 Enfield rifle is still in active duty service. It's used by some Danish dog sled patrol in Greenland, it's official military issue there. I was told it was because available automatics/semi-automatics aren't reliable enough in Arctic conditions, and they require the 30.06 round since it's usually huge animals (polar bear) they have to deal with instead of soldiers.
This rifle feels so underrated in media and rifles like the mosin and K98 get all the attention
I have a German K98K and my 2A1 is far smoother. Also has the benefit of holding more rounds.
Love mine. Accurate, dependable, holds a zero well. Fast firing as well. Holds 12 rounds. I think I got mine for $90. Good truck and woods gun.
Won bronze at Camp Perry with it. If you mess with it and tune it up, I think you'll like it. Feeds well from clips. No rim lock. Mine shot right to point of aim with sight set to 100m at 100m with NATO M80 Portuguese. REALLY happy with it. Had it for 25 years now. Good video Mike.
Come to think of it, maybe an STG 44 in 5.56 ain't a bad idea
Fuck yeah i would buy a reproduction in 5.56 or 7.62x39
Oh, I bet you'd just love that, you wehraboo.
@@BigPuddin Just because I got Panzer on my name and like STG44 doesn't mean I'm a wehraboo who worship German engineering
The Brit’s all time favorite rifle was designed by an American who was born Scottish. And americas favorite rifle was designed by a French Canadian immigrant.
I love these rifles, heres a tip that can help with hard extractions. It seems to extract and eject fine, but if it pulls from the chamber hard the chamber can have some minor rust or burrs. Easy fix is to get a chamber brush and put it on a cleaning rod and add a good squirt of clp or oil. Then chuck it into a drill and buff/ polish the chamber a little to break any loose burrs and rust. even a small amount the obturation ( expansion of the brass after firing) can grip said rust or burrs and make extraction a bit rough. Do that and you should have much smoother extraction. For all those people who think brass rods/ brushes ruin scratch guns are wrong there made of brass a softer metal. I do this all the time especially on my own and customer guns. Take a bore camera into it and you will see it goes from rough to smooth as glass.
I have a 2A1 and love it, but I also have lots of problems with the mag. Mine has a lot of play when it is latched in, and the bolt will sometimes push the mag down to where it can no longer feed properly. Good to see it getting some love, though. When I purchased mine over a year ago, there were few videos on it, and none of this quality.
The magazine that came with mine sagged in the rear causing the bolt to just glide over the rounds. Numrich had reproductions and the one i got was a super tight fit. Was kinda sad id lose my 12rd cap but turns out i was able to finagle the original mag flollower into the repro and it works great
I much prefer the RFI Ishapore 2A1 for the simple fact it shoots 7.62 nato. my only complaint is the u notch sights, wish they would have gone with the sights off the No 4 mk 1. Great gun and still reasonably priced.
On the topic of other older firearms in service of Indian forces and services. SMLE no.3 as cadet rifle in NCC (ROTC equivalent), sten as police service smg, sterling as police force, paramilitary and military smg, Vickers berthier lmg and bren as reserve for military and as main mg for state police forces. Currently main mg's in military are Negev 5.56, Fn Mag and Pkmt in t90/72 tanks.
"I"ll let him try my poo rifle" What a gentleman.
Noooo the rifle cycles poorly because its minus 2 OBVIOUSLY.
Some say they are the same steel as the .303's But my mint 2A1 handles my MK 316 MOD 0 and M118LR hand loads. It's best with 145 -155g bullets with 1:12" rifling. Solid 1 MOA W/SCOPE
She’s a beauty. Will definitely add one to my collection later on. I just gotta pick up most of the British models first. Idk why but I have an absolute love for the .303 Brit. It’s probably the only reason I haven’t picked up a 7.62x51 ishapore yet.
Got one of these that had been cut down to a 16” by my great grandfather who was a gunsmith. Still super accurate even at 200 standing. Great gun, hope to tune it to perfection sometime soon and find reasonably priced ammo 😂
I had one a few years back. I loved that rifle. I traded it off for a couple off for some cap and ball revolvers. I really want one of the .410 conversions.
Century arms has some .410 Enfields, but they look beat to crap.
I have both the 2A and the 2A1. Both shoot extremely well and neither has feeding issues. I will say the 2A1 has better wood on it and the 2A clearly sports wood recycled off an No.3 showing several arsenal repairs.
I got mine in 2001 which was a collectors grade re-arsenaled 1960. II paid a premium of $350.00 2001. Glad I did. Looks brand new. WhenI die some one will be excited.
I've found that while all Lee action rifles are incredibly smooth, sometimes you have to close the bolt with authority. That could likely be the issue with the stickiness rather than the cold.
This was an ammo issue more than anything if you watched until the end. It wasn't a problem to close it, it was extracting that was a bitch.
Yeah, ya might have needed some graphite or cold weather lube. Good show. @@MikeB128
I was just looking at these the other day. Would love to shoot one someday :)
Wooow. I've never seen a bolt gun like that. It's probably the only bolt gun I've ever instantly wanted lol Thanks for showing that beauty off.
A-ha! So my detachable-magazine .308 Enfield is historically accurate. Take that, haters!
That is one handsome rifle, I have a .410 conversion, with a couple of crimped brass rounds that was issued for the rifle, I’m trying to track down one of these in Australia but haven’t seen any yet...none on the auction sites or gun stores I’ve been to,
They are plenty in India, but it is the government property
I have been thinking of buying an Isapore 2A1 just because I want an SMLE Enfield but I don’t want to add another caliber to the collection. I heard though the 2A1 isn’t safe to fire with regular 308 since it’s higher pressure than 7.62 NATO. The other thing, can that rifle be charged with stripper clips?
It seems you found my rifle. I'd like it back. ;) Seriously though. I need one of these.
Nice insightful vid. I'm looking to purchasing 1 soon, my LGS has 1. I know it's chambered for 7.62 Nato. Is it ok to shoot 308, specifically like Tula steel 308 ammo?
every video I see of this gun has better wood finish than mine. I like my dents are rack marking tho
The extractors are different and some had a coil spring instead of the leaf spring style standard SMLE style
hi, nice report, is that magazine a Pro-Mag ?
No. Stock mag.
I passed up an opportunity to get one. It was that or a Swedish mauser.
Good choice, but that's just my opinion.
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Mike did your friend say that the 303 bolt can be used in the 308 ishapor
No idea, you'll have to go ask him.
Nice Video
What is a proper sling for this rifle?
My mag is very finicky on my 2A1
Refreshed Rifle
the butt plates are not interchangable.
K
I bought a whole bunch of 7.62x51 before the draconian laws kicked in over here in Commifornia. How much does one of these rifles go for?
The extractor is also different by the way.....
Thank you so much for clarifying, now people will be able to actually watch and enjoy the video.
@@MikeB128 well it does make a difference if you're trying to replace the extractor like I had to cuz I broke one on Wolf steel cased ammunition and when I ordered the extractor even though I told him which rifle I had they asked me if it was 303 or 308 and then proceeded to send me the incorrect one
Isn't the ishapore 2a1 chambered in 7.62x51? I think you wrote 7.52 in the title.
Yeah, I fixed it. Fuck me for making a tiny typo.
What a mustache
I thought it was fake thru the whole 1st part of the video. Haha
wait a minute this doesnt look like mommy's basement!
that gun is great though!
This is a slap for those who thought india couldn't produce guns. 😂😂
The only could while the British were running the palce... not so much nowadays
enfeild rifle modified to shoot 7.62 nato rounds
Wow, nothing gets past you..
Don't you mean 7.62x51 instead of 7.52x51?
yes
Fuck me for making one typo in the title....
Mike B Nice shooting! Love the info from you. What is all that white stuff? A joke from a Michigander in the Deep South!
Yo you coming at us from mommy's *backyard?* No way mate!
Also wanna mention that your videos are pretty fucking intresting to watch, it's just a joke
Probably a stupid question but can these feed from stripper clips?
Stupid Weasels yes they feed well. I use Swedish 6.5 stripper clips with mine. They work great with .308 it turns out.
I don’t know why these are so cheap. So underrated. The stocks usually look like hell, but it’s great if you want to practice woodworking. I don’t even feel bad sporterizing and scoping it, since it’s pretty much a modern rifle.
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