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Ishapore 2a1
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2020
- This video will cover a rifle I got that I have been interested in for a while because it’s all the fun of a wwi Smle no1mkiii without all the cost of ammo and rimmed ammo problems as well as the added benefit of better steel. This is the ishapore 2a1 which is a made from the ground up stop gap rifle in 308 to help fill the need of the Indian army while they were having issues tooling up for the fal. These rifles were only made for a few years and handle and look and ruction just like an Smle. Hopefully you liked this video and subscribed if you like this sort of stuff. Please leave a comment with any questions, additional information, user experiences, or suggestions for future videos and I will do my best to answer them. As always thanks for watching.
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Devin K.
(I could be wrong) The one they used in prison, was a enfield converted to a .410
India was the first country in Commonwealth to start using white powder, hence the N-type steel. Also, Ishapore was automated as early as in 1913 due to lack of properly trained gunsmiths. So, Ishapores actually have better quality control than same-era British Enfields.
Now, why the lack of trained gunsmiths is kinda funny. I am from Howrah, modern day West Bengal, India. Ishapore is 20 minutes away from my house. Atleast before 1940, native Indians were not allowed to enter Ishapore premises. That is because this area is filled with Bengalis (myself too) and the Bengali have been vehemently Anti-British throughout their history; and armed resistance was pretty common here. To make situations worse, 1 hour drive from my house is Chandannagar, which back in 1910 was a fullblown French colony. So French stealing valuable stuff via their Indian allies was a legit threat. So, Ishapore was heavily guarded.
I just bought one-love it. The thing is a tank!
I picked one up recently. It had laid on one side for awhile and had rust and pitting. Where there was paint, it reminded me of a military vehicle that had been painted a dozen times. I sandblasted it and refinished it. It looked a lot better. Mine was made in 1968 and had a ten shot magazine. The wood was beat up, But it was enough to add character in my opinion. At 50 yards, my shot group was about 3” high and in about a 3” square. So shots were 3” to 6” high, by about 3” wide impact area.
Got my 2A1 "Ishy" 308 in 2001. It is a collectors edition.. looks brand spanking new. Was $300 back them. Have a CETME and FAL in like new condition too. GREAT REVIEW.
Really great review! I absolutely LOVE my 2A1 "Ishy"! It is a smooth, tough, accurate, fun shooter. Your Ish is in GREAT shape. Mine is a little more used but I am sure it was appreciated and it was well taken care of. The only thing I did was change out the rear sight for a peep sight from Ebay. It was a little small and hard to pick up the front sight so I just drilled it out just a bit bigger and it makes a HUGE difference. Same sight pic as like a Garand now. It shoots VERY well. With good ammo it will shoot a 1.5"-2" group at 100 meters. That peep makes all the difference in sighting and naturally, as you pointed out, it is a military rifle and not a target shooter but I would definitely trust my life on this rifle and I am sure I can hit whatever I shoot at. I have been a collector for quite a few years and have a lot of great arms but this is a stand by rifle. Anyone that has one loves them.`I ALSO love the FR8! I had the chance to get a nice one and got another SVT40 instead BUT I do want one for the collection. Anyway, thank you for the review and I hope you have a great time shooting! I hope you make another vid shooting that nice looking rifle!!! Take care my friend!!!
Looking forward to see how it shoots!
I was looking for an ishapore, I really want one because its like an smle but in a better cartridge
I just added one of these to my group. I'll get to the range soon. We'll see what we see. I hope it has the correct magazine.
I’ve never seen such beautiful wood on a 2A1. Your rifle is in amazing condition. Is it refinished?
I have a 2A1 manufactured in 1974. The last year of production was 1975. My stock is from an old Enfield when manufactured as you correctly mentioned. My magazine is 12 rounds. May I ask where you purchased and how much. Mine shoots 2 MOA at 100. Great video, thanks for showing us your beautiful 2A1.
I bought one and refinished it. It looked like a kindergartner had painted it a dozen times, I sandblasted it and reblued it. It functions really well as far as feeding and ejecting. But when it comes to putting lead on the target. The only thing it consistently does, is miss. Like 3 feet to the left and five feet high at 50 yards. The shoot group is fairly consistent though. I have no idea how to zero it and get it on paper. I can hit the target with it. But I have to aim 3 feet in the dirt to the right of the target. It does look really good now. Just not a shooter.
Actually camber is 7.62mm NATO. HS is 1.635". With hand loaded match ammo with 155gr. bullets my 2A1 shoots 1 MOA
Wireman134 mine does not with any kind of ammo and I put 8 different kinds through it the best I could do was about 1.5 moa
Good information about an Indian rifle. Most general Indians will not have an iota of idea about these rifles. they do see them in some police station. Where there is not even a 0.1% threat of a gunfight. Or else they are all replaced by INSAS rifles in India now which is the standard issued to the Indian army and Indian police forces. They will also be changed to other rifles like new Indian, Israeli, Russian AK-203s, and American Sig Sauers. A part of history. I also hear that the Indian army had used these in war with China. In the mountains of the Himalayas eastern and Northern India in the 60s. Though India had the worst result in the war by losing territory to china this rifle was not the cause for it.
Would you recommended this is as a good first surplus? Really looking into this rifle
I may have missed this in your video but how does this rifle handle .308 win? I know there is always a risk of using .308 in 7.62 nato barrels. What has your experience been if you’ve attempted this?
Nice video. Is it possible the mag issue is a weak spring in the mag since the problem is occurring when it reaches the last round or two?
Dave G that’s what I thought at first too but it turned out to be the feed lip just needed some adjusting