Man in Cave (Reupload)
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2023
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A chronological retelling of Floyd Collins getting stuck in a cave.
This video was inspired by the biographical retellings of the life of Floyd Collins.
In particular, the works of the talented Lucas Reilly from Mental Floss and author Robert K. Murray.
Their works can be found at the links below.
Lucas Reilly
www.mentalfloss.com/article/5...
More interesting writing from Lucas Reilly can be found at:
www.mentalfloss.com/authors/l...
Robert K. Murray.
www.amazon.com/stores/Robert-...
More fascinating stories can be found at:
www.mentalfloss.com
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Collab Boys:
Wendigoon / Floyd - / wendigoon
SumitoMedia / Homer - / @sumitomedia
OrdinaryThings / Miller - / @ordinarythings
Rusty Cage / Gerald - / @rustycage
ManyKudos / Robert - / @manykudos
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Music list:
Brothers in Arms - Baker's Dozen
Brothers in Arms - Hell's Highway
Conan Exiles - Cave Idols
Contrast - The Streets
Days Gone - I remember
Deadly Premonition - FBI Special Agent
Doom - At Doom's Gate
Empire of Sin - Instrumental
Gone Home - The House Part 1
Grim Fandango - Temple Gate
Halo 3 - Asphalt and Absolution
Katana Zero
LA Noire - J.J.
Limbo OST - Boy's Fort
Little Nightmares 2 - Boots through the undergrowth
Little Nightmares 2 - One Step, two step.
Little Nightmares 2 - still life
Mafia - One Twitch Away
Mafia 2 - Red Dragon
Mafia 3
Medal of Honor - The Motorcycle Chase
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault - Main Menu
Outer Wilds (Andrew Prahlow)
Red Dead Redemption 2 - A quiet time
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Angelo Bronte Theme
Red Dead Redemption 2 - House Building Theme
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Lemoyne
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Prison Break Theme
The Last Guardian - Hanging Gardens
The Last Guardian - Sentinel 1
The Sims - Main Theme
The Wolf Among Us - Main Menu
The Wolf Among Us - Radio - Комедії
I can't believe he convinced me to give it another go
The hell it's actually him
Cmon man we all know this is the definition of insanity, why would you do it again
The things we do for art
Please tell me that is your childhood photo being used here 8:51
lmao rip
Two heartbreaking takes in one video. Man in cave and internet historian being a sneaky plagiarist.
tbh i dont care im still watching him
>this is an original take
You missed what the HBomberguy video was about
@@willmackaness2991 elaborate
@@willmackaness2991this isn't the "gotcha" you think it is, just watch the video people are referring to
It's amazing how petty and damning most people are. A single mess up and you'll abandon someone or jump at their throat, even if it was already rectified. I hope you take some time to reflect and learn to think for yourself.
I would like to thank the inventor of caves, Tommy Tallarico, for making the events shown here possible
His mother is very proud.
58 Guinness World records were broken by the creation of this video
@@Chunibrow still not as low effort as reaction videos but surely uncredited plagiarism so maybe worse I hate reaction channels if I was out of ideas like him I might do the same still bad though
I wonder how hard this situation will devolve.
Ah yes, maybe 1 minute of plagiarism in a 1:14:08 video. Unforgivable.
I like hbomberguy but his video implies that this whole thing is plagiarised when it's just heavily inspired. Sure he should have credited the few quotes he used but that's it.
Pov: You're scrolling through the comment section knowing DAMN WELL what your about to see
So I’m not the only one
I hope IH makes more great content
Tommy Tallerico's mother being very proud?
I guess I wasn't the only one.
He's brave enough to have a comment section, at least
Can't believe he got extruded into that cave
jokes aside, doesn't extrude mean to exit out of?
if so, poor man did NOT get extruded out of the cave
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 it's extrude in the context of 3D modelling and such, basically when you take 1 face and stretch it out into another dimension. Like giving a 2D thing depth by just extending it into the 3rd dimension. I can't really explain it well cause the only reason I know is because i fucked around with Blender (3D software) a bit
nah this is next level shitposting
Nice
Stop, no. Don’t ask me why I have ten dead extrudes and Lego house is completely purple, I have no idea
Atleast we all agree that Lucas Reilly's writing is incredible.
Incredible is stretch
@Not_Always Incredible enough for Internet Historian to plagiarize it to make videos that got millions of views
@@ThePurplePeppy yeah cry about it, the Hbomberguy the rape apologist and child abuse supporter's pocket commie
Nah. I read the article and I'd have to disagree, plagiarism or not. It's pretty basic.
He took a shitty article and made it good.
Damn I remember being impressed with the extensive research when I watched this upon release. Feels pretty crummy now
This is his Costa Concordia
its a damn shame, really love his content but yeah it sucks that all this went down
@@Versace_sheets Apparently he plagiarised stuff from that as well. Compare 23:30 in Cost of Concordia to "Another Night to Remember" in Vanity Fair 2012 and CTRL+F "safe but shivering" how much has he been plagiarizing this whole time
@@SAVarXXhow about no?
How about if not for the video, most people wouldn't even know what the f Concordia even was?
@@skatingfreak1670 What is even your argument?
Of course the first American to work on a Sonic game could’ve made this possible!
His mother is... well, you know.
Are you sure it wasn't Joey?
It’s always Joey.
Good ol Joey K-I mean Tommy
the way i know exactly who you're talking about
Lucas Reilly wrote this very well. A shame he was not properly accredited for it.
@@Noelll The entire fucking reason why this is a reupload is BECAUSE IH didn't do it the first time. The person you replied to is most likely well aware that *now* it's credited to the authors, but it wasn't before.
@@mikeaft3585 This is exactly correct. Throwing in a half hearted citation after you've been caught and had to reword the entire video, and still not reaching out to the author or apologising, is the problem. He profited massively off the back of someone else's hard work.
@@Noelll that person isnt making it up. there is evidence you can search for
@@Noelll its not hard to find. "lucas reilly man in cave" will give you the appropriate result pretty fast
@@Noelll Yes. He specifically said no one from IH's team reached out to him at any point. Look, I liked Internet Historian too, so I'm just disappointed, but I think ignoring shitty things just because someone you like did them is pretty morally scuffed, mate.
I'm gonna be honest, it this was framed as a dramatic reading of the article, it would've been amazing, and everyone would have bemefitted
He prob didnt do that bc the author mightve asked for shared revenue, and stealing was apparently cheaper lol
yeah it's very disappointing how internet historian plagiarized and handled being caught
i mean look at how well Alt shift x did with his Alls tomorrow video, he gave proper credit the author appreciated it and we got to experience the story, everyone won
Honestly once my boi bomber posted I knew I was right about how historian sounded reading it. Way too much like a script and trying to act like he put months of work into writing it. Scummy
Only reasons I could see for IH not asking permission/collaborating with the author are:
a) didn't want to share revenue
b) was concerned the author wouldn't want to be associated with him
c) it wouldve taken more effort
Good job Lucas Reilly from Mental Floss for writing such a compelling story and good job Internet Historian for his expert use of the copy and paste functions.
lmao
Control - V is very hard to do, you have to press two buttons at the same time. Do you know how hard it is to do that? Pressing two things at once is how most nuclear weapons would be fired! It’s only use in cases of total destruction, for example in this case IH reputation 😂
I'm curious to see how all this will play out.
@@Sadiebubs Probably some drama, deletion of this video and then people will just move on. That is how it mostly goes. Look at all the hard hitting things that John Oliver and Stephen Colbert have done, and basically nothing changed.
All the animation, jokes and voice over has created themselve then?
I feel like the original version should have been kept online by making a very generous agreement with Lucas Reilly, instead of additional rewording that we got. The new version is imo miles behind the original.
Not being open about why all this went down feels really scummy.
Exactly, it's not even that it happened cause so much of yt is plagarized that I feel many creators didn't realize it doesn't count as transformative. But the fact that after it all went down, he never even planned on acknowledging it. He really thinks no one cares (and many of his fanboys are already defending him), but no matter how much I liked him, this is dick move.
@@TheEtherny Idk dude, the act itself was pretty shitty to begin with. Stealing someone else’s work is one of the shadiest things you can do IMO.
Yeah, the original version was an objectively great video, and would have been fine had IH reached out or credited the author…
But that’s the entire issue. He was obvs fine with letting the world think he wrote it. If he’d presented the 1st video as a collab or adaptation, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
But he didn’t.
@@HauntedHarmonics Totally agree. Making a monetary agreement would have benefited both parties and all of this could have been avoided.
Now, there will always be a bad taste with watching IH. I sincerely hope this was a one-time thing and his other giant hits aren't also stolen content.
@@HauntedHarmonics IH Wrote it though it was not plagiarized just because the only source was from and article that should not mean plagirzation its dumb.
@@Stand_watieIt was word for word plagiarized for significant chunks. Sorry, but stealing is bad.
Wow. This James Somerton video is sooo well researched!
Wow your so witty man
Can't believe the stone weighed 36 pounds. Damn.
It was actually 26, he got the numbers wrong while plagiarising the script for this video
@@SomaticApparition so, what you're telling me it was actually 24 pounds?
@@hansa5867 no it was 45lb
@@tgirltouhou i don't think so... I'm sure it was about 29 lbs
@@hansa5867it’s 52
Can we appreciate the fact that Tommy Tallarico single handed saved the Costa Concordia?
"His mother is very proud" - Aquaman
I like this one
Nah, it was all Joey.
@@MrGared22 It's Joey! It's ALWAYS Joey!
This joke goes like 3 layers of internet deep and I love it.
Joey Kuras' sound mixing in this is honestly fantastic.
That’s a deep pull, and you have my respect.
I'm so proud of Tommy Tallarico for being the first man to ever get trapped in a cave
*first American man to be trapped in a cave
His mother's very proud.
@@seamussmyth1928 *one of the first American video game men to ever get stuck
@@user-rd6ml1mo8b**one of the first American video game men to consult on what sound should be made when getting stuck in the cave
“We were actually the first people to get saved from a cave”
Being honest, a little creative and upfront about what you are doing would have avoided this drama.
Dude could have easily credited the original article and made an animation video about it. Almost an audio book of sorts.
Could have worked with the author - maybe even to make sure he was interpeting things right if possible.
People would be much more forgiving in that situation.
@@HonsHon Also, each video take a long time to be made in the first place. Content Mils break copyright because they mindlessly create "Content" for the Algorythem. This meanwhile took time and effored to make, which almost makes it worse that he cut corners on such a important thing.
@@HonsHon you cant do an audio book without the author permission, you have to buy rights from the author. So, "work with the author" means less money from the video. Internet Historian wanted all the money for himself.
yeah wtf
Internet historian did nothing wrong
Who did he expect to find in the cave? FUCKING AQUAMAN?!?!?!
Aquaman's mother is so proud 👏 🥲
@@georgesears2916 did you know Aquaman was the first American to work on the sonic the hedgehog series?
@@northwestthrills3453 was this before or after he met the Dalai Lama in London?
Under rated comment 😂
@@northwestthrills3453 Yeah, but the fountain in his home makes him pee at night.
Some people have said this but, I just want to say that if he structured this as a dramatic retelling and did the voice over and the animation, then this would’ve slapped. I mean he did that for the pirate thing on his other channel. The world’s worst pirate or whatever it’s called, he literally said that wasn’t his story. And then he made a recreation. Ironically enough that’s my favorite video of his. He really screwed up here
No, Internet Historian is the world's worst pirate.
@@onearmedbandit84 lmao
Turns out he actually plagiarized the pirate video from a netflix show but it took a long time for people to notice because he made a lot of bizarre changes like inventing random characters who never existed and removing all the lgbtp content so his right wing bigot audience would be able to watch it without filling their diapers.
And yet everyone is still watching. Hmmmmmm funny that huh
@@tesseract5569 What even is your argument? People are "still watching" pirated movies online, does that mean it's good?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The plagiarism sucks for sure, but I think the part that really gets to me is the fact that he tried so hard to hide it. Like it still would’ve been a great video to just have a retelling of the article, but for some reason he couldn’t source the author for his work and wanted it to be his
and what really sucks for me personally is the fact I REALLY loved this dude's videos, knowing the amount of research and digging he DOES do I just can't look at his content the same. What if he steals from very niche and unpublished works? What if his past coverings are ripped from deleted forum posts word for word? It's just disappointing. If he owned up to it I would feel very differently.
@@D2Davis yeah exactly. If he fully owned up to it as a mistake and said he won’t do it again. I think it’s a fully forgivable offense, but it’s hard to imagine him going out of his way to bring more people to attention after he tried so hard to push it under the rug
bro its youtube, dont take it so seriously. this whole drama will be forgotten in a few weeks and will be replaced with another one.
@@ClaythePokeChamp Almost like your father.
@@ClaythePokeChampDon't take theft seriously, just let people exploit and abuse each other online, ok.
You'd think on the second run they'd have a better idea on how to get him out. But they just tried the same stuff, ridiculous!
If humans are anything we aint creative
Definition of insanity
Honestly, I couldn't blame them. They're probably so hyper-focused on saving him through one way, that they just forgot to think rationally and actually try something else.
You= the best=rebest
My dude just can't catch a break.
The worst part of all of this isn't that he plagiarized the article (it's still bad) but that he kept lying about the reasons why the video was copyright struck and still (as of this post) hasn't openly admitted fault or addressed the issue.
It completely erodes confidence in all the other videos he uploaded. How are we to know that he didn't shamelessly copy/paste that amazing video he did on the Costa Concordia from over 2 years ago?
That's the sad part. I really like his Fallout 76 video and want to believe it's entirely his work, but I can't be sure.
@@stefangla6878 Well none of his work is original because he gets his research on the internet so if that's the criteria then no one can look at the internet for information.
@@Stand_watieSo you're a child or a dropout who has never written a paper before. Using a source to back your writing is not the same thing as copy pasting someone else's writing and listing no source.
Based on the fact that the entire hour-long video is plagiarized, I would be very surprised if this is the only time it happened. People usually don't go from 100% original work to 100% plagiarized work in a single video, especially when they don't have a time limit for when the video needs to be done. Then add in his efforts to try to hide the real reason why the first upload got claimed.
The whole situation would have been avoided if he made the video as a dramatic reading of the article.
@@zeemgeemyeah but I’m not a professor who actually cares where you got the information from lol, I’m only looking to be entertained for half an hour or so the rest doesn’t concern me
Thank you noble historian for being the first american man to work on extruding a cave which weighs 135,000 pounds
guys its ok his mom is very proud of him
tommy?
@@eats5569he made a music for this video. His mother is proud.
@@przyciskshift Did you know he has 6 Guinness World Records?
@@TBakerXD i believe it was 7. His mom must be vey proud
also, his house was on MTV Cribs I believe
It's incredible how Tommy Tallarico has created World of Tanks all on his own
his mother is very proud
He's even credited on Guiness for being the most creator of World of Tanks
It kinda sucks because it makes him have to go to the bathroom at night tho
And he was definitely on MTV Cribs
what is this joke about Tommy Tallarico? it's everywhere and I don't get it :/
He Is truly the first American to get stuck in a cave. What a beautiful story Tommy Tallarico has created for us!!! His mother must be very proud.
"This video was inspired by"
Well that is the bloody understatement of the century
Can you imagine if this video was an adaptation of the original article? Not only would it add to the original writing by having cool visuals and narration but it would also bring attention to a great writer.
Honestly if it was obvious that this is another persons writing and not IH’s this video would still be praised to hell and back like it has been already, but noooo IH can’t give credit to someone else he’s a special little boy
Bro can't read a description.
@@lsksniper1936 This is the reupload which he only did after the original got copyright strikes and where he gave no credit.
@@lsksniper1936 Not only was it a reupload of a copyright struck video where he didnt credit and almost verbatim took everything the article said but this is the 2nd reupload the first got copyright struck as well. On top of refusing to acknowledge what he did at best to flat out trying to cover it up by using altered images of the strike notice so you cant see who it was struck by etc etc. If he just did it then made an apology that would be one thing but he instead, just said it was struck and let people speculate and go wild, reupload still not explaining anything and pretending not to know why and answering no one when asked to then reuploading again (this one) still not explaining the copyright strike and using a altered image of the strike. The only thing he gets right here is finally crediting and even then he had to run through and remove sections cause they directly showed his theft of the work. I honestly love his stuff but this made me really really sad.
His active attempt to specifically not credit the author of the article he's reading almost in its entirety is pretty scummy ngl, made me lose some of the respect I had and it sucks because I loved IH content.
@@lsksniper1936 this is a reupload after he got caught, bro
The original “Help me Step-Bro, I’m stuck.”
IH with the lightning fast Like on this one huh
What is this? A crossover episode?
He could have been saved if the AK-50 was finished in time…
I’m sorry, I had to do it.
@@thelonehussar6101 I think as the Guru, Brandon Herrera (PBUH) has shown, the real question is not "When AK-50?" But, truly, the questions are "How AK-50?" And "Why AK-50?" both of which are answered through inner meditation and test firings. May the saints Kalashnikov, Colt, and Maxim sing it to fruition.
Did not expect to see you here
as a former mincraft player i can speek with quite a lot of experience. this hole is at best a half slab, so this 100% requires some digging like 3x3 blocks.
if you want to show of that u came prepared, dont forget to bring some redstone torch and around 120.000.000 tons of rais and activator rails.
MAKE SURE TO SET UP REDSTONE TELEPORTER VIA ENDERMAN PEARL SO YOU CAN GET BACK HOME AT ANY TIME.
now start digging in a 3x3 area, place rails and each 5 blocks you can cut the sides for some logs to give your mine a really nice looking.
incase anything bad happends, such as idk... a girl talking to you, just swing your fishing rod and youre out there in no time.
there is no need to spawnproof this cause youre not a virgin.
prob you found some diamonds and next time when the girl approches you can make quick work out of your new gear.
thank me later.
The thing that gets me the most is that if Internet Historian at the beginning of the video said, "This is a retelling of written by . They are a fantastic writer and I would encourage you to check them out. Let's get on to the video" NO ONE WOULD CARE. (obviously get permission from the author prior to video as well). It's just such an avoidable case of Plagiarism that is gross.
The cave won't give him up. The story never ends.
The cave will enact a perilous price in flesh, no matter what comes
It’s Majora‘s Mask all over again… 😂
Man, I can't believe the cave was so desperate to get Floyd back that it copyright struck the video.
The caving never ends. Welcome to Mr. Bones Wild Cave.
Absolute banger of a comment, kudos to you and thanks for the laughs
If I had a penny for every time Floyd Collins got stuck in a cave and died, I would have two pennies. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Don't you mean 3 pennies?
@@savimbi9208 nope.
@@404TVfr 1 for the first vid, 1 for the reup, 1 irl
@@DJG_Studios the fuck is an irl? Is that something you eat?
the first penny gathered enough interest that you're now a billionaire. Congratulations.
It's not hard to ask the guy if you can make a dramatic reading of his article.
i heard Tommy Talarico himself did the soundtrack for this video!
i cant believe wendigoon was put into a cave again just for this reupload, truly amazing is his dedication
Yeah imagine getting killed twice for views on UA-cam.
Also the firefighter should know by now the rope doesn’t work
Why was 6 afraid of 7? It's a fairly common question, mostly because when people see 6 and 7 next to each other, it doesn't really make sense. 6 is large, muscled, and trained in multiple martial arts, while 7 is fairly average, physically, and short. However, 6's fear of 7 has its roots in childhood. See, 6 and 7 grew up together, and for a few years, they were best friends. But then 6 kissed 3, and they became childhood sweethearts. 7 secretly had feelings for 3, so 7 decided he needed to destroy 6 to win 3's affection. He started subtly, undermining 6 whenever possible with passive aggressive comments and compli-sults. But over time, things got much more insidious. 7 started messing with 6's performance in school, bringing down his grades and turning teachers against him. Even worse, 7 became great friends with 6's parents and slowly turned them against their own offspring. At night, 7 would sneak into 6's bedroom, and whisper depressing and hopeless things into his ears. Every time 3 was around, 7 would pants 6 and make fun of his genitalia, or try to body shame him in other ways. However, 3 was both smart and compassionate, and saw through 7's schemes, sticking with 6, trying to counter 7's psychological tear-down with compliments and friendship. Finally, 7 decided that he would never be able to win 3, so he drugged both 6 and 3, taking them to an abandoned cobbler's hut on the edge of town. There, he proceeded to torture and maim 3, forcing 6 to watch in horror, unable to do anything to save his sweetheart. 7 didn't kill 3, but instead, put her in a semi-vegetative state. 7 cleaned the scene of his prescence, then called the cops, having 6 blamed for 3's condition. 6 was sent to prison, believing 6 was guilty, 6's parents fell into a deep depression, eventually committing suicide over what they believed 6 had done. After serving 17 years of a 30 year sentence, and getting out on good behaviour, 6, now muscled and skilled as a fighter, thought he might get revenge on 7. But when he finally tracked down 7, he found out that 7 had installed a micro-bomb into 3's body, and should he be killed, the bomb would automatically go off and kill 3 as well. And though she was still in a mostly fugue state, 6 couldn't bring himself to hurt her any further, and decided to try and move on with his life. However, being an ex-con, it was difficult for him to get a job. 6 finally found employment at a diner, which 7 then bought, and proceeded to again undermine and toy with 6 at every turn. 6 tried to find employment elsewhere, but 7 contacted any potential employer and soured them against 6. 6 finally realized that no matter what he did, 7 was going to try and ruin his life, and he resigned himself to living as a broken, lonely man, never able to stand up to the depraved, amoral 7.
@@Kernwadi Yes.
wendigussy
@@369Sigma Yes.
A good story can only be told twice.
Unless its copyright struck again, then it can be viewed 3 times
Die once, have your death told twice
That’s how you come out ahead
Why was 6 afraid of 7? It's a fairly common question, mostly because when people see 6 and 7 next to each other, it doesn't really make sense. 6 is large, muscled, and trained in multiple martial arts, while 7 is fairly average, physically, and short. However, 6's fear of 7 has its roots in childhood. See, 6 and 7 grew up together, and for a few years, they were best friends. But then 6 kissed 3, and they became childhood sweethearts. 7 secretly had feelings for 3, so 7 decided he needed to destroy 6 to win 3's affection. He started subtly, undermining 6 whenever possible with passive aggressive comments and compli-sults. But over time, things got much more insidious. 7 started messing with 6's performance in school, bringing down his grades and turning teachers against him. Even worse, 7 became great friends with 6's parents and slowly turned them against their own offspring. At night, 7 would sneak into 6's bedroom, and whisper depressing and hopeless things into his ears. Every time 3 was around, 7 would pants 6 and make fun of his genitalia, or try to body shame him in other ways. However, 3 was both smart and compassionate, and saw through 7's schemes, sticking with 6, trying to counter 7's psychological tear-down with compliments and friendship. Finally, 7 decided that he would never be able to win 3, so he drugged both 6 and 3, taking them to an abandoned cobbler's hut on the edge of town. There, he proceeded to torture and maim 3, forcing 6 to watch in horror, unable to do anything to save his sweetheart. 7 didn't kill 3, but instead, put her in a semi-vegetative state. 7 cleaned the scene of his prescence, then called the cops, having 6 blamed for 3's condition. 6 was sent to prison, believing 6 was guilty, 6's parents fell into a deep depression, eventually committing suicide over what they believed 6 had done. After serving 17 years of a 30 year sentence, and getting out on good behaviour, 6, now muscled and skilled as a fighter, thought he might get revenge on 7. But when he finally tracked down 7, he found out that 7 had installed a micro-bomb into 3's body, and should he be killed, the bomb would automatically go off and kill 3 as well. And though she was still in a mostly fugue state, 6 couldn't bring himself to hurt her any further, and decided to try and move on with his life. However, being an ex-con, it was difficult for him to get a job. 6 finally found employment at a diner, which 7 then bought, and proceeded to again undermine and toy with 6 at every turn. 6 tried to find employment elsewhere, but 7 contacted any potential employer and soured them against 6. 6 finally realized that no matter what he did, 7 was going to try and ruin his life, and he resigned himself to living as a broken, lonely man, never able to stand up to the depraved, amoral 7.
+50 more at least
Twice???
Looking back, I think I could tell Internet Historian and his team didn't write Man in Cave when I first watched it. It's not like any of his other videos in terms of tone. I honestly just thought they got a new writer.
Lowkey thought the same first time I watched it. writing was really on the wall, or cave in this case
The links to the articles are at least in the description of this one.
@@PixogenPixels True, but that's a really low bar. He says nothing about it in the video. An Illuminautii low standard. I'm not even sure if that description was there before the Hbomberguy video.
He doesn't need to do anything else.@@georgesears2916
Internet historian, you broke my heart
Me too, friend, me too.
@@klaatunecktie7906 hey at least ordinary things is still original...i think
@@lunarbrona4412Wait... is there something you know, I don't?
I'll be legit heartbroken if ordinary things is guilty of plagiarism.@@lunarbrona4412
@@Paiichii Ordinary Things?
Can you please backup that claim?
I really loved the first upload and was pretty disheartened to hear the script was plagiarised. I wouldn't have thought any less of the channel had they just marketed it as an animated and fully narrated version of the source material citing the original appropriately. It was so well written by the og author and adding your narration and animation were great additions.
The worst part for me is now I’m reevaluating my thoughts on his past videos and will doubt anything new that comes out too. I hope the sponsorships were worth the massive reputation hit.
Yeah, earnestly if it like started with “this is an adaptation and retelling of this article, link in the description” it would have been cool
@@redblueandgray fr that's literally all it would've taken for there to be no drama. The article is very good and IH clearly thinks so, so it would've taken nothing to just hit up the writer on twitter for permission and then claim this video is an appreciation of the original article. Absolutely brainless move for no reason.
Insane to me how that simple act of courtesy and providing some amount of compensation to the writer for their hard work on a video that got millions of views a juicy sponsorship and was a surefire hit on an incredibly popular channel just never crossed his mind. Ego really supersedes all, I suppose.
Now I'm averse to all of his videos, because even if they have good writing, is it actually HIS good writing?
The original version of this video was taken down for blatant plagiarism and copyright infringement, and IH’s handling of the situation suggests he wants as few people to know about it as possible. Hbomberguy’s video on plagiarism goes into a ton of detail about it.
That leftoid has no credibility, I suggest you look for a therapist instead
@@user-wu6gt1gf1cIt’s not 2015 bro are you lost?
cry about it
@@user-wu6gt1gf1cno one that says leftoid has any credibility lol
@@user-wu6gt1gf1cdid you confuse libtard with femoid?
Did you lose your book of insults when you scrambled to come troll on these comments? You've got to be more prepared when that's your only plan.
I loved the part when Tommy Tallarico said "It's Tommin time!" And proceeded to Tallarico all over the place. Bravo vince.
His mother is so proud
What are your comments referencing?
@@AA-uv3uf hbomberguy's recent video exposing this video (among many others by other youtubers - IH was not the primary focus) for plagiarizing a mental floss article is why they are here. The Tommy Tallarico comments are a reference to a previous video in which hbomberguy extensively outlines how Tommy Tallarico has lied about pretty much every single aspect of his public life and career.
He actually extruded everywhere but close enough
I need a historical artifact that weighs exactly 36 pounds to stop an alien machine from blowing up the earth, thankfully this video has pointed me to one that weighs exactly 36 pounds, thank you mister historian man you really saved me some work! I'm going to retrieve it from the exhibition and use it to disable the doomsday device.
You’re gonna be disappointed.
I hope Tommy Tallarico's mother is proud of him for making such an amazing documentary
Tommy actually holds the Guinness World Record for number of projects worked on that his mother is proud of.
@@bustabenson Tommy actually holds two separate Guinness World Records for amount of proud exhibited by their mother.
Tommy Tallarico's mother, like horses, does not exist
I know Tallarico is a famous bullshitter but why are people linking him to IH specifically? Did Tommy rip off Lucas Reilly too?
@@milliondollarmistake I'm a bit confused with the reference, too.
dude, you were so cool, by far one of my favorite content creators. just give credit and don’t plagiarise.
Credit was given, look in description. It's been there the entire time.
@Pzyclopz then why did he bother re uploading it multiple times and changing the scenes drastically.
@@Pzyclopzblatantly false
@@Pzyclopz It should be at the start of the video, he should have gotten permission, and whether or not it was in the desription of the original upload is currently unknown (at least to me). It is there now, and seems to have been there for at least a while though, which is at least something.
@@Pzyclopzit wasn’t there in the original upload, why do you think it got copywriter claimed? Why are the other internet historian archive channels unable upload it? Because he took the script word for word from an article he did not cite.
this video was private for months and only became public after his next video came out so less people would notice the how blatantly he stole the script and that editing the work makes the quality of the video feel lacking in proper pacing and suspense that the original article had.
Another banger Tommy. Your mother should be proud.
Guys, guys, calm down, he IS Lucas Reilly and this was all a big prank.
"The original got copystruck."
Now I know why. Almost the entire script was lifted from the Mental Floss website.
your honor my client would like to plead oopsie-daisy
I didnt even think to check thankfully real UA-camrs that do actual work caught him
the article was mid as hell. this video is way fucking better
@@spam_1224The original version of this video was quite literally just word for word the article though?
@@youareallbots7536 Who fucking cares? The video is amazing, does that article have top notch voice narration and great visuals? I don't think so, this is a far more enjoyable media to consume
kind of sad to know now that this video writting is just plagiarism, I respect you man, you shouldn't really be doing shit like this being as big as you are. It would be a good story if you wrote with your own writing too, you know.
I kinda respect cheating and getting away with it. Like oceans 11 or the NE patriots
Hbomberguy new video fr. Watching it rn
dude literally has a second channel dedicated to writing hiw own stuff and still plagiarises lmfao
@@goncalocorreia6085skimmed it cause I cba to watch the whole thing. His videos are so incredibly annoying. Idk if it's how he speaks in general, his condescending tone specifically, or what. I enjoy long form content, but I've never been able to get into him despite hearing constant praise.
the most disappointing thing for me is that this issue is so preventable because IH could have just credit the guy and make a disclaimer clearly at the start of the video stating that the video was an animated form of the article. IH animations are transformative enough to be considered to not be a plagiarism. ( he done this with the My Immortal). The storytelling in the article are so well done, i can see why IH couldn't help but copy the whole thing
So cool of Tommy Tallarico for inventing caves, Floyd Collins, and the subject of plagiarism!
wooow, SO COOL! his mother is very proud
It's so much funnier when you think WHY he chose such a random story to plagirise the first time,like WHY did a man in a cave stick out to him so well
Probably not his first time.
Now I am wondering if the Fall of 76 and Engoodening of No Man's Sky are plagiarised as well. I actually liked those videos
@@levin2142I honestly dont care, dont get me wrong plagiarism is bad... but I just dont give a fuck and maybe you should too, just enjoy.
Probably just had to make a video for a good sponsorship deal he just got and was too lazy to come up with something original in time for the deadline.
Sadly, as a content writer myself the issue of plagiarism strikes a bit too close to home for me to ignore. And if the content is indeed plagiarized, why, I can go and enjoy the original instead.@@jdcp8976
I'm here to watch things burn. Someone get this man 7 Guinness World Records.
I fucking cackled at this thank you
As his mother I can confirm I am very proud
The channel is too big and his main fanbase too uncaring, nothing will burn. He'll at most lose a few paterons, which doesn't matter as he makes bank elsewhere.
nothing will change. literally nobody cares
@@ThePointlessBox_hundreds of comments with thousands of likes disagree with you
Now I understand why this reupload is so much worse than the original.
I didnt watch the original. Whats the problem and why is everyone so offended?
@manofculture4938 the entire video was plagiarized
@@manofculture4938 The problem is that the entire script of the original video was almost entirely from an article written by Lucas Reilly. Internet Historian did not disclose this fact when he uploaded the video nor did he credit the original author. As a result, the video got taken down by the company Reilly works for (a rare situation of a copyright flag being warranted). People are pissed because this only came to light when another UA-camr found out about it, Internet Historian tried very hard to make sure people didn't find out the script was plagiarized.
@@manofculture4938internet Historian plagiarized the whole video, and then tried to cover it up, releasing a shittier version where the plagiarism is less awful because he moved some words around. The end result is this video: an absolute mess of terrible writing
@@jif_smooth6805unpopular opinion but idrc tbh, I’m just looking to be entertained for half an hour or so
I swear 1 or 2 pulleys would’ve saved this man
No seriously, where tf did you get 36 pounds from 😭
I am disgusted that someone COULD copyright strike the original. This video is a work of art!
And i think i know who did this
@@godzilla928 who?
@@DavidKen878 owners of mentalfloss. they had a similar article.
@@Kaimax61 So they filed a copyright claim on a 7 month old video because they wrote a similar article?
@@DavidKen878welcome to the internet of 2023
the fact he raised money to dig his friend out and give him a proper burial is actually heart warming
Brother, they're brothers my guy.
@@Lgs260495 Brothers AND friends 🥹
@@SPOROGENESIS True
Hes a true professional
I mean, he was already buried
Wow, can't believe he got plagiarized out of that cave
Really, bro? Months after the scandal and that's the best joke that you can write? You all are mindless bots.
@@chrisjfhelep5095 all he has done is lie about it and hasnt taken accountability for it so yeah he plagiarized the fuck out of that cave
@@zaly7243 I'm not defending IH, I know that he should had asked article's autor or cited him and that IH deserved some kind of repercusion, however, IH already cited the autor in this video's description. 2 months had passed since HBomberguy's video and all what his mindless fans can write is the same joke over and over again. Ironically, I'm pointing out the lack of creativity of Hbomberguy's fans to write good jokes.
@@chrisjfhelep5095 I don't think piling on with jokes is similar enough to plagiarizing a whole dang video to warrant irony. And for someone not defending the dude you sure seem a lot like you're defending the dude.
@@lasagnahog7695 Yes, it is ironic how Hbomberguy's fans can not write new or clever jokes about this topic and instead spam the same over and over again like if they were a hivemind.
Defending? I already said that IH deserved some kind of punishment or consequence for his actions. I like his content and I still follow him but I'm not saying that he is inocent or something.
Your mother must be very proud
hehehe
First American to ever plagiarize!
The part where he pretended to need water and wanted to trap that other guy down there with him so he wouldn't be alone was so fucking dark, and completely understandable
exactly
Its real life horror
Indeed
loneliness makes you do heinous things
@@Fitingbros101sure but loneliness is even a bit reductive; he was more than alone, he was trapped, brutalized and tortured by the conditions of the cave.
Can we appreciate the absolute Chad Miller? That guy came and just did what nobody had dared for a stranger.
Risked his life for the scoop, stayed out of sympathy for Floyd
Mediados Miller is definitely my favorite character from the story. Man is fearless and has an incredible heart.
he earned that Pulitzer prize for such heroic journalism
@@britishgaming2why hello there
@mecrac but did he get a Guinness World Record for it?!
Tommy Tallarico did a great job
I just realized that the simpsons season 3 episode was a parody of this incident
Yeah they even set the carnival up outside the well. Simpsons really have done it all.
The one where Bart gets stuck in a well? I think that one was a parody of the Baby Jessica incident.
I’ve thought about Miller a lot since the first upload. A man who got involved for a story but stayed because it was the right thing to do. We could always use more of his type, good people.
Same, I came to the conclusion that it's similar to war vets...his life couldn't have been the same afterwards.
He was truly the diametric of modern journalists…. A man that for no reason would help a stranger and risk his life while everyone else stands by, that’s a real HERO.
@@not-fedrayepps5203 He is basically a definition of man.
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Raymond Rambert vibes
Wendigoon is such a trooper. Not only has he died TWICE but he left us pre-recorded videos to give the impression he’s still around a second time!
Woah! Woah! Spoilers! You mean he dies AGAIN???!!!
@@heathercameron1485 not gonna confirm nor deny but yes he dies again
Edit: wait..
He died, but he survived, and died again, but survived again
Some lessons are more difficult to learn than others. He may need to die a third time to really get what is being taught.
@@taoofjester4113 third time's a charm, he might even be able to do alchemy once he return back to life the third time
I do like this video. thank u internet man.
Legend has it, you could see the likes disappear in real time when that Hbomerguy video came out
It's impressive that even on a repeat performance all the people involved give seriously evocative and emotional performances. My compliments to the VAs involved, especially Wendigoon, who actually sealed himself in a cave and died *TWICE* for the sake of the video.
Whats a VA?
@@Dime_time333 voice actor
Astute observation my friend.
Wait so they remade the entire video from scratch?
@@mariguana7918 no
This is my favorite Mental Floss article
thers no need for snide remarks like that... ur just spreading negative vibes shut the hell ur mouth hater...
I can’t believe he wrote this all by himself!
His mother's very proud.
Did you know IH was the first American to talk about people being trapped in caves? That can't be right. Isn't he Austrian?
His mother's very proud
Just a heads up In latest news people contacted the original author and no deals or even a apology was ever given to him.
Source - I made it the fuck up.
I feel like I've seen you around in a few other comment sections XD
LegalEagle, LTT, and maybe others?
If that is you that I've just come across again, Hi! Hope you're doing well, and thank you for the update!
❤
@@vidyastuff3509
False.
But you keep huffing that copium.
"You can copy my homework but be sure to reword it bro."
It's really cool how the Cave is treated like a character, especially with lines like
''the Cave had had enough''
''the Cave would parry them away''
''the Cave was not done with Floyd''
A very nice touch.
"Option 1: Capitulation. The Cave wins." is a good one.
The cave entrance even looks like the mouth of a monster! Very fitting
That's why the story is so great to listen to. You feel as if the cave is the antagonist, working tirelessly to not let our poor Wendigoon out.
It is called personification
@@fuzzfac3942 Not "anthropomorphism"?
I can’t believe that that stone weighing 36 pounds was extruded onto his leg, truly a terrible thing
Not only that, imagine a somer-ton of rocks on his body as well
@@lyndislegion287I see what you did there
More than 9000 people arrived, and only 5 people actually helped. Even more, couple dozen of them cauzed the cave-in, sealing his fate, although they were warned.
Idiot plot, except its real
In a twisted way, he got what he wanted. Visitors and tourists to his cave, to show them a glimpse of another world. Breaks my heart that it happened that way, though.
Legit fuckin monkey paw situation
*Cue the Twilight Zone theme*
"I want to be famous, to have my name remembered long past my death!"
no....he wanted that, so he can get pay....
Yup pretty much for the money. The man didn’t even know.
R.i.p. OG man in cave. A double had to life through all of that again just for us to watch
I hope the double was payed extra
100 likes in 2 mins 💀
@@luisquintero4471 you still watch the og
"People call me racist... I can't even drive."
-Bilbo Baggins
“had to life”
Indeed
tommy's mother must be very proud for achieving a guiness world record with this one!
More like "Internet Plagiarism" amirite fellas
BAAAAAASED
Get the fuck over it.
This is so disappointing...
Plagiarism is such an auful thing, but its even worse when someone you actually respected turns out to be one of the assholes that do it
I kinda respect cheating and getting away with it. Like oceans 11 or the NE patriots
@@bconwe6420If only he got away with it eh? Cause rn using your logic its pretty lame
Yeah, I was really disappointed. I watched the first upload and was confused why the upload was ...a bit worse?
What happened?
@@Anthony-tu7vw This entire video is basically uncredited plagiarism of an article written by Lucas Reilly. It's why it was copyright struck in the first place. It's honestly a bit bizarre to watch it reuploaded with zero attempts to remedy that.
At least the part about tanks is original!
Are we sure? 😂
This comment is Monty Python level funny
They're given scripts by the sponser for them to read lol
@@Illunica3000 Pretty sure that WoT isn't that chill to give these kind of scripts.
@@4X4StudiosHR Sponsors always have final say on this.
IH you have done some really good work in the animation, and the voice work. Why didn't you just admit and credit the original author that would have been so much better than denying the whole thing. Its just so disappointing to see one of your favorite youtubers doing plagiarism like this.
And I doubt the other wonderful videos on this channel are like this but this does leave a bad taste.
Well look at the politics of the publication that he stole from, and then go to any other video (this one's a hotbed of toxicity) and sort by recent.
Do his fans on those videos seem like that kinda people who'd be okay with him citing from a source like that, or do they seem like the kinda people to send death threats, dox, and SWAT him because he's "not based and redpilled?"
damn i like dont fucking care dude
@@crazyinsane500like they would bother to look at the original lol
@@spam_1224then why do you reply?
He has a link to the article in the description. You guys need to get over yourselves.
Glad to Wendigoon fully embracing his cave dwelling instinct
Miller wasn't connected to Floyd in any way. He wasn't his brother or even his friend. He was just a young upstart journalist that thought this story would be his big break into success. He could have just as easily left and profiteered off of it with how widespread it became, but he didn't. He stayed and helped when no one else would because it was the right thing to do.
God bless you, Miller!!!
Upon second viewing, there is a looming sense of dread. You know what's going to happen to Floyd and you can't stop thinking about how sad he must have been. It's worth a second watch.
Same. Hearing what Floyd said on Day 4 to the press, knowing that that was a real quote made by the real man, f^^king killed me.
Meanwhile me on my 6th watch...
here I go then
Right? It was really sad this time around
I feel genuinely betrayed to find out that this was plagiarized. I really thought better of you.
damn. no one cares
@@spam_1224Stay mad
The original video was plagerized, not this one.
I'm so glad I watched the original version of this
Yes I will gladly watch this again thank you
Edit: Oh no why
If it isn't the man who's striving for originality
Hold up, ain't you Nathaniel B? *I'm sorry* ☠️
yes thank you
What you doing here
Kinda like my parents second and third divorce. Let's go ONE more round!
What a well researched story, and an excellent example of effective storytelling. Thanks Tommy Tallarico!!!
Thanks Lucas Reilly!
His mother is very proud
Can I ask why all the recent influx of comments about the plagiarism? 4 months ago I was leaving comments about the situation and others were too. Somebody else cover it or something?
The bomber guy's whole UA-cam page is recycled BuzzFeed articles spewing mindless drivel like how it's "anti vaxx" if you didn't get the rushed clot shot. He's a plagiarist himself that posts unoriginal ragebait trash.
@@bmo14laxHbomberguy released an extremely long in-depth video about plagiarism and dedicated a good 20 minutes or so to this video. Go check it out, it’s a good video
The plagiarism not being removed is HILARIOUS
isnt it tho? in the bio he's got all the scources and i hear he resolved it all with the lucas guy
@@jonsena1373 all he did was literally invert word choice from the original article, dismiss all narrative aspects that made the story engaging, and cut all the backstory about him because he was afraid to talk about Kentucky.
Pay attention more bb 💖
I do concede that _signifficant_ amount of effort was nescarry in the production of this video, but getting basic facts wrong, the weight of the rock at the beginning, and trying to hide what happened regarding copyright is extremely scummy.
Also Tommy Tallarico's Mother is very proud of him.
Easily my favorite video on this channel. I told my family it was a movie, but after the first few minutes they mostly dispersed. Slowly they started returning, standing around the tv going “he’s still in that cave?”
It was great. Thanks Floyd Collins.
This is cute
So...they caved in?
sounds awkward
@@javkson2908 unfortunately most people, especially boomers could never understand the nuance of this masterpiece video
uff, than it must hurt especially that it is completly plagiarised...
As if being stuck in a cave isn’t already agonizing enough, he has to go through it a SECOND time. Prayers up for my man stuck in the cave.
Oh, WOW! William Miller looks a lot like Stede Bonnet.
I think it's really funny that they used a picture from Ted the Caver when they called the squeeze in that story "Floyd's Tomb" after Floyd Collins. It feels like it's gone full circle now. I didn't know anything about Collins when I first read that, so it's nice to have some context for it now. Thanks for reminding me of it.
Shame the original got striked. This legitimately felt like watching a movie, with plot twists, surprise guest characters, and an unbelievable ending. Phenomenal storytelling
I missed the original, what all is different in this re-upload?
What's the difference?
@@fubutthole (Reupload) added to the title
@@TfeldeSome cut questions from the incompetent audience, removed or changed descriptive language, a few minor images removed all together, etc. Really nothing much of note, but just enough to subvert the unjust copyright claimant who thought they could capitalize on this video's revenue simply because they also wrote an article on this otherwise very well documented and timelined story.
@@elliottreed5283 "unjust". it was plagiarism. I'm a fan of IH too but to chalk it up as the other party being greedy is just fanboying.
As a fan of a couple of years, it's disappointing to find out most of the content from this video was from a single journalists hard work being stated verbatim withoud due credit.
"Hello fellow internet historian fans"
Who cares
@@kaleido360 From all the comments and upvotes? Lots of people lmfao
@@kaleido360tf you mean who cares? Anyone with basic logical processing skills
@@anhk_yt the video is entertaining which is all I care about tbh. everyone pouting about it is up their own ass. I’m an end-user; I don’t care how the product got made as long as it’s made well
Tommy talarico was the lead artists animator and soundtrack designer ? Did you know he made a world record with this video ?
His Guiness is very mother 👩
I can’t believe he invented videos to make this
@@dabatman5187 So proud, his Guinness
I wonder why the original video got copyright striked