Small correction: In the review we said the Asus PG329Q has a G-Sync module. It doesn't (it's "G-Sync Compatible" instead), but it does still have variable overdrive
"Because we want people to buy the backlog of slightly worse but still pretty good monitors instead of waiting for this one which we can't manufacture in the same quantity as there is a global silicon shortage"
Well, in this case given the entirety of everything, I suspect LG is enjoying all the extra press. Really, they did did get extra content made around it, even if it's not the best of topics, and everyone is talking LG right now aren't they.
LG is the last company that needs to bribe monitor / TV reviews. Too bad that marketing team acted like that, feel sorry for the engineers and designers getting their product in bad light because of bad marketing ethics.
Guess you all never played the lg panel lottery. Buy your monitor from amazon if you do go with lg. Gives you a chance to return and get a new one until you get one without a dead or stuck pixel or trash color uniformity. Took me three tries to get a 34gn850 without stuck pixels and with good color uniformity. Just look at the reviews on Amazon for any lg monitor. You will see exactly what i’m talking about.
Raid is made by IGG they made Castle Clash And years ago at the time. That game was making more money per year than the entire Franchise of Call of a Duty and Final Fantasy Billlllions
@@fepethepenguin8287 i remember spending too much time on that game as a kid. I also remember the people who spent more than 100k gambling in that game
Actually I'm happy this happened since you really pushed on all their buttons well enough that they literally changed their full position on reviews! Kudos to LG for changing, Chapeau to you for making them and thank you ;)
#3 allows him to refuse a review if you don't follow the conditions up front. it's almost as bad as what they did. Instead They will ask for unreasonable things up front, Tim will say no and we will never see a review. Instead of simply sending Tim the monitor and let Tim do his job. good or bad.
@@b6s4shelter True of course, but as a corporation with money on the table they will always set conditions whether it's upfront or after the fact as it's always been in the whole industry. However asking those before you put someone under the grill is of course the right and legitimate order of action (and less stressful for our Tim). Also, isn't it the same result in the end because they forced Tim to not release his review because he wouldn't agree to their crazy conditions? They would probably just sue him if he did not comply and still released it for the sake of neutral reviewing. The change is still appreciated, let's see what good comes out of this and if not I'm pretty sure our dear Tim will smack a gnarly video about their horrible practices which will hit exactly where it needs to.
@@b6s4shelter If those conditions are "Have the review out before this-or-that date" or "You must have reviewed at least 10 other monitors to compare to" or "Your channel/publication must have this-or-that many subs/monthly visits" it's all good. They get pestered with people thinking they can get free shit if they just make a review online. If they do anything like what you're suggesting you can be sure Tim will have them for lunch again.
Yea their changed stance on reviews. Is the change needed... 🤔 lol they only "changed" from being called out by a big reviewer..I promise you customers still struggle with products in their lineup with no solution a lot of times..
It is absolutely amazing how Hardware Unboxed simply won't budge to any manufacturer, and that the manufacturer is starting to understand that you cannot do things and get away with it any more. The only thing I regret is that someone might have been fired for this, and I believe that is and was nobodies intention. Also, what the hell LG, this is a decent monitor, why would anyone want to change a review that is in depth, accurate and competent and also shows that the product is actually fantastic, not the best there is but certainly a good choice for anyone in the market for a 32". Thanks for again sticking to your values Hardware Unboxed, we do appreciate that!
probably cause most of revenue comes from patreon/affiliate links not the companies themselves. So they really have no leverage on them. If companies shadowban them from receiving products theyll just buy it themselves.
@@Mkilbride2599 probably because tech reviewers always have a lot of other tech lying around (see boxes at the shelves behind). "If they have that, surely they're keeping everything else as well"
Thse guys are only giving there side of the story... there are is always another side to this tale. LG might just have a bad market manager in that region...
@@christopherwood2290 Hey Chris, you are right, these huge companies don't get a free pass. All I am saying is that UA-camrs have an agenda too... they want views, that want clicks, it is how they make money for the work that they put into these videos.
Hey guys I think we should all be nice to people who accept bribes and companies who offer bribes. They only have billions of dollars at their disposal. Nothing wrong with being a scummy, back alley dealer and trying to bully people. People really will defend anything.
@@Dreamsic Not defending... just opening your blind eyes to the fact that youtubers have an agenda too... You do know that this channel could be lying to you...or blowing it way out of proportion. UA-camrs are known to do that.
@@Sandeepan Every single “lowly” job I’ve worked at a company, the only people that get the boot are those that don’t perform, those that don’t ask questions, those that don’t try to better themselves. But hey.
Same I've been in the market for a 32" 1440P screen for months now, don't like the over saturated colors from the ASUS and I was worried LG would mess this one up.
@@JohnDoe_75 well you can turn colour saturation down, I stuck with CRT on a Pro Iiyama for years, because LCD had cartoon colour, but I bought a recon Asus which I'm happy with. I haven't totally finished with tuned settings, I have even tried the HDR. I think most ppl prefer unnatural intense colours so that's the defaults
HA!!! take that LG, Your monitor is pretty good, it's better than the last one and one of the best monitors available on the market!!! You don't control us??? Wait I'm confused.
They probably didn't want it to come to light that the 27" version has slightly better response time. Perhaps they thought this was the only metric gamers was interested in. But with Tim it's always: "Here are the compromises you're going to make". No monitor has ever gotten "This is the best shit ever! Buy it regardless of price!" from Tim.
Hardware Unboxed is one of the only review channels on the whole internet that actually tests the monitors. Find someone else who will bother to lift a finger to test the color spaces. There never was anyone.
I bet LG had some people that don't understand Western culture and were throwing money at reviewers to take a preferential direction, instead of figuring out how to communicate. It's good they've shuffled staff. What a nightmare!
Love to hear that they most probably lost their jobs or were degraded. Seriously, I'm sick and tired of this nowadays trend of higher echelons dickatry and absolute idiocy. One can't find fine job without struggling with their retarded approach to business in my country! Edit: embarassing grammar mistakes
"Western" culture is not the one above all in morality. There are many so called Western companies like HP, Dell in computer industry, Shell, GM , Volkswagen who have done far worse to people who pointed out flaws in their products or practices. Also, Australia is in the eastern hemisphere
Wherever you are reviewers are paid to take a preferential position. The popular tech youtubers include the negatives of products which is good, but they still rely on the companies providing them with free products. Sponsorships are shady everywhere in the world, borderline lying about things (I love this game, I use this all the time, etc.)
Honestly it's quite average, fast mode for high refresh and off for console gaming. LG really didn't need to force anything about the review even though it had its flaws.
@@_No20_ personally I like LG and Benq, but it all depends one what you want the most, whether it's color accuracy or low blur/artifacting or deep blacks etc. You'll have to look at each monitor review and ask yourself if you're fine with one good feature if it means a lower quality from another feature.
@@_No20_ average doesn't mean bad, just not something that doesn't outshines the rest of the competition You don't need the best to get something great and an average product is all a person needs really.
Oops, LG did it again They paid hardware unboxed, got lost in the game Oh baby, baby Oops, you think LG is in love That is sent from above They are not that innocent
i could tell you werent reusing footage because i am watching on my 27gl850 so it was easy to spot the differences hehe. bravo on not caving into lg's demands, much love from melbourne.
LG's response is appropriate. HU's review is also appropriate. The monitor itself is appropriate. It is only appropriate to forgive LG for this incident, as it does not seem to be intentional.
Nothing to be worried about?, but compared to the same Monitors from other brands like Asus and Acer this Monitor has bad Timings, horrible contrast ratio and horrible problems with Motion Blur reduction because of there nano ips Panels, seen on this and on dell monitors too who are using LGs Panels. But yea, beside that, there is nothing to worrie about, lol
@@kizuda6943 Im referring to LG creating a complete PR nightmare for themselves. Their actions made it out like they were trying to hide something incredibly heinous. But no, the contrast, color, red ghost smearing etc isn't absolutely "1337" tier mind blowing cum in my pants. Big deal. Its still a good monitor.
You guys are just amazing. I love that despite LG being dicks, you guys high road them, stick to your review model, and in the end.... still point out the advantages and flaws just like you always do. Props to you guys!~
Love the title and the thumbnail. 😊 Your integrity and honesty with us consumers is your greatest asset, never change that. The world needs more impartial people like you guys. ❤️
Why would LG try to do this when their monitors are already great overall ? It just shows the team that communicated to HU have never seen past reviews or the products they sell themselves. Having engineers in the PR team would actually help since most of the tech today is too advanced for these non tech PR guys who have no idea what's the difference between the previous and present products. Having engineers on board the PR team would help with "realistic" expectations from product reviews.
The PR team was from a different company. Still owned by LG, but a different sub-company. So they have no display engineers, because all they do is PR.
I just bought this thing two days ago, and it's absolutely amazing! It is so buttery smooth quick. And I'm only running an rtx 2060. I mainly play pubg and I'm getting 120-150fps which is completely fine for me
Great news! I have a 2070 super and I've had an eye on this for a while now but I'm playing New World and unfortunately my fps are at around 50 In the towns lol. Was try to decide between this and the acer preditor xb323u and I think this is the one I want.
@@ezzyMODE well fps is from your hardware and the monitor can provide up to 165hz, so if you can run games at higher frames than 165 then you’d want a faster monitor. So In turn this monitor would be ideal for what frames I can push :)
Glad Hardware Unboxed stays open and transparent to shady propositions from Brands, because I value you guys reviews on products very highly. Personally bought 2 high end monitors due to your honest recommendations and reviews in the past year. I doubt I would have spend that amount of my money if you guys would not recommend certain models and brands. Very happy with my Samsung G7 and my HP Omen x27 ;) thank you Hardware Unboxed for everything you do! You guys rock! And I am looking forward to future reviews and recommendations.
LG monitors are awesome. Never had a problem with quality from them, and i had over 10 for personal use and hundreds in my company for my employees. Always got IPS models, they are fast for gamming, great colors, nothing to complain. As technology progressed, so did them. I'm still baffled as to why they felt the need to influence and hide things from the customers, there's simply no need for that. The only conclusion i can come up with is realy poor management from the people who thought it would be a good idea to show more results and better pay bonus.
I don't normally watch monitor reviews, but decided to watch this one if only to see the obvious punch line to this whole story. You did not disappoint.
Excited to hear that they are indeed implementing changes to how they work with reviewers. You guys seem to have handled the whole situation well and facilitated positive change. Nice work!
seems a pretty good monitor, I think LG kinda shot themselves in the foot by trying to force people not to use their product the way they want... they should not take hints from apple...
I dont think that the whole company "LG" has an evil mentality of buying reviews. I think it is more the actions of one or some inexperienced employees that did not know what things appropriate and which are not (like paying for testing in a certain way). But still I strongly support exposing these things because that will stop other companies from trying to do the same.
@Hardware Unboxed, WOW. Thank you so much for the non filtered(not listening to LG’s review request) and for the extremely detailed and helpful input. I just got a 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra card and need a monitor that holds up well to testing and perfect for my competitive play style in first person shooters. By far the most helpful and explanatory (with results to show) video I’ve seen on gaming monitors and I’ve been looking deeply into the 32GP850 1440p and was just about to purchase. Glad I found you. Thanks again mate!
I bought this LG 32GP850 monitor before this review came out. I have found no flaws with it. In fact, I love that it auto-switches signal inputs between 3 different PCs (1 DP, 2 HDMI), and the G-Sync works great with the RTX 3070 Ti graphics card on the DP input.
So, this is the monitor it was all about. Honestly, if it did not had all this review drag behind it thanks to LG, it would actually have been a pretty decent monitor.
Well, now LG has to deal with the "Streisand effect". What would have just been a review of a decent monitor is now getting people suspicious because of how they've acted and tried to control the review process.
Well I didn't buy an LG, I bought a reconditioned Asus 32" one instead, one a class up on my intended model. So many companies have transgressed corrupting reviews, the white list is shrinking. Those who genuinely reform do need to be forgiven.
I dont get it. Lg makes good products. Why are they acting like a holes. It would be like you order dinner and love it but right before you go to leave a tip your waiter comes and says if you dont leave me a tip I will break your kneecaps. Like things would of worked out great if you just acted like a normal person
@@Zetraxes that (or rather asian mentality) and people involved being normies who usually work with "influencers". (now I'll go and wash my hands after writing this word)
Johno yes i did, iam following the company for yeads, dont worry my friend. Although i have to say that even LGs philosophy is way better than Samsungs but thats a diffotopic
I recently got the LG 27GP850. So far so good. It replaced my original LG 27GL850. Let it be clear that I wanted the higher refresh rate and gave my fiance the previous model now we both have quality monitors to game on. Im using a 3080 and she is on a 3070.
Great review. But the title is a bit clickbaity. Please don't go down the Linus route of making all your thumbnails and titles like this :D I love your reviews.
in my country the 27GP850 cost around 600 Euros but i can buy it in germany for around 450 Eruos on amazon (which doesnt add tax fees) and the 32GP850 isnt currently available as far as i can see on Amazon but in my country i can get the 32GP850 for 50 euros more (650 euros in total) than the 27GP850 and the M32Q cost basically the same as the 32GP850 both on amazon and in my country (650 euros roughly) so in my eyes the 27GP850 is the clear winner :)
Suggestion for a graphical improvement. In the response time chart, the color ranges seem to be hard-coded to specific response times, rather than scaled to the response window available in the monitor refresh rate when looking at variable refresh rate performance. From my POV it would make more sense to have any value that comes in below the Refresh Window to be on the greenish side of yellow, and above the refresh window to be on the yellow/orange/red scale. As an example, looking at the 120 Hz normal mode chart about 6:53, the refresh window is 8.33 ms, but many values under 8 ms are colored orange in the response time chart, which could lead more visually-oriented viewers to think that the response time was unacceptable for those transitions.
I'll always appreciate that Hardware Unboxed keeps their reviews 100% honest, to the point where even a pretty awful marketing practice of trying to control the reviewing process doesn't affect Hardware Unboxed's opinion on the product.
Small correction: In the review we said the Asus PG329Q has a G-Sync module. It doesn't (it's "G-Sync Compatible" instead), but it does still have variable overdrive
Any chance you can do a review of the 27GP950? Recently picked one up, I'm intrested on hearing what you all think
Can you do a review of the Gigabyte Aorus FI25F?
Several months this small slip up happens lol
Good tat LG changed their review policy.
Can you provide a new analysis of the XG35VQ with the same new parameters?
Management: Wait... why did we try to stop this again?!
"Because we want people to buy the backlog of slightly worse but still pretty good monitors instead of waiting for this one which we can't manufacture in the same quantity as there is a global silicon shortage"
Thats not how tech companies work.
If anything, they are probably contacting the Prussia's famous shadow monk clan to kill hardware unboxed.
Well, in this case given the entirety of everything, I suspect LG is enjoying all the extra press. Really, they did did get extra content made around it, even if it's not the best of topics, and everyone is talking LG right now aren't they.
@@nukedathlonman, as in, "there's no such thing as bad publicity"? :D
That's what happens you get quota-hires AND put them in a position of any sort of power.
LG is the last company that needs to bribe monitor / TV reviews. Too bad that marketing team acted like that, feel sorry for the engineers and designers getting their product in bad light because of bad marketing ethics.
agreed, I'm still getting an LG monitor this weekend because they still make IMHO the best bang for buck monitors
It's still a good monitor and LG doesn't need to hide anything with it.
Guess you all never played the lg panel lottery. Buy your monitor from amazon if you do go with lg. Gives you a chance to return and get a new one until you get one without a dead or stuck pixel or trash color uniformity. Took me three tries to get a 34gn850 without stuck pixels and with good color uniformity. Just look at the reviews on Amazon for any lg monitor. You will see exactly what i’m talking about.
Agreed. My previous monitor was LG recommendd by HUB and current one LG Oled recommended by their cousin techyescity
@@SVT_LIGHTNING i think thats part of delivery fault, lg monitor in my country seems fine
Looks like LG's team didn't know anything about their own products if they wanted to block a review of what would be a good product
They wanted to reduce competition from their own superceded models.
Seriously. WTF were they thinking
The marketing team, yep. Feel sorry for the designers and engineers that bad marketing puts the product in bad light.
They are marketing people, so I'm not surprised they lack certain knowledge about the products they have to promote..
It's always about control not money. Rich people/corporations already have all the money. What do they spend it on? Control.
I'm so glad a company as big as LG is slightly better than the people at Raid Shadow Legends.
What did they do?
What happened with Raid?
I’m sure LG will be flattered to be compared with a FTP cash grab.
Raid is made by IGG they made Castle Clash
And years ago at the time. That game was making more money per year than the entire Franchise of Call of a Duty and Final Fantasy
Billlllions
@@fepethepenguin8287 i remember spending too much time on that game as a kid. I also remember the people who spent more than 100k gambling in that game
Actually I'm happy this happened since you really pushed on all their buttons well enough that they literally changed their full position on reviews! Kudos to LG for changing, Chapeau to you for making them and thank you ;)
#3 allows him to refuse a review if you don't follow the conditions up front. it's almost as bad as what they did. Instead They will ask for unreasonable things up front, Tim will say no and we will never see a review. Instead of simply sending Tim the monitor and let Tim do his job. good or bad.
@@b6s4shelter True of course, but as a corporation with money on the table they will always set conditions whether it's upfront or after the fact as it's always been in the whole industry. However asking those before you put someone under the grill is of course the right and legitimate order of action (and less stressful for our Tim).
Also, isn't it the same result in the end because they forced Tim to not release his review because he wouldn't agree to their crazy conditions? They would probably just sue him if he did not comply and still released it for the sake of neutral reviewing.
The change is still appreciated, let's see what good comes out of this and if not I'm pretty sure our dear Tim will smack a gnarly video about their horrible practices which will hit exactly where it needs to.
@@b6s4shelter If those conditions are "Have the review out before this-or-that date" or "You must have reviewed at least 10 other monitors to compare to" or "Your channel/publication must have this-or-that many subs/monthly visits" it's all good. They get pestered with people thinking they can get free shit if they just make a review online. If they do anything like what you're suggesting you can be sure Tim will have them for lunch again.
Yea their changed stance on reviews. Is the change needed... 🤔 lol they only "changed" from being called out by a big reviewer..I promise you customers still struggle with products in their lineup with no solution a lot of times..
It is absolutely amazing how Hardware Unboxed simply won't budge to any manufacturer, and that the manufacturer is starting to understand that you cannot do things and get away with it any more. The only thing I regret is that someone might have been fired for this, and I believe that is and was nobodies intention.
Also, what the hell LG, this is a decent monitor, why would anyone want to change a review that is in depth, accurate and competent and also shows that the product is actually fantastic, not the best there is but certainly a good choice for anyone in the market for a 32".
Thanks for again sticking to your values Hardware Unboxed, we do appreciate that!
probably cause most of revenue comes from patreon/affiliate links not the companies themselves. So they really have no leverage on them. If companies shadowban them from receiving products theyll just buy it themselves.
Why amazing? UA-cam pays him not LG
@@spike378 I never said anything about LG paying him? Nor did anyone question or understood it that way, dunno what you are on about.
@@spike378 because a lot of people get paid by both.
LG: we send you a monitor here are our guidelines
Hardware unboxed: no can do
LG: fine here is the monitor
I wonder what happens to all the "free" stuff that reviewers get sent .
@@leo99990 Depends on product, but a lot gets sent back
@@leo99990 95% of it gets sent back. People think they get to keep it lol.
@@Mkilbride2599 probably because tech reviewers always have a lot of other tech lying around (see boxes at the shelves behind). "If they have that, surely they're keeping everything else as well"
@@Excalibaard Nah they just have that much going on other than talking trash on the tube's and games junk just starts to pile up.
As much as I like LGs products, nobody should be immune to criticism.
Thse guys are only giving there side of the story... there are is always another side to this tale. LG might just have a bad market manager in that region...
@@Todd_Manus Don't make excuses for this kind of conduct which is rampant in tech companies based all over Asia.
@@christopherwood2290 Hey Chris, you are right, these huge companies don't get a free pass. All I am saying is that UA-camrs have an agenda too... they want views, that want clicks, it is how they make money for the work that they put into these videos.
Hey guys I think we should all be nice to people who accept bribes and companies who offer bribes. They only have billions of dollars at their disposal. Nothing wrong with being a scummy, back alley dealer and trying to bully people.
People really will defend anything.
@@Dreamsic Not defending... just opening your blind eyes to the fact that youtubers have an agenda too... You do know that this channel could be lying to you...or blowing it way out of proportion. UA-camrs are known to do that.
"We are speaking with new people at the company"
Yess!
Another day, a lowly intern/worker gets the kick while the shareholders cherish their fine wine
@@Sandeepan Oh that’s why you don’t want to leave your basement and get a job? Makes sense. Couldn’t be anything else.
@@Sandeepan Every single “lowly” job I’ve worked at a company, the only people that get the boot are those that don’t perform, those that don’t ask questions, those that don’t try to better themselves. But hey.
@@Chris.Smith420 corporate simp.
@@perceptivity_ how about that is that corporate jargon enough for you
I was waiting for this rewiev. Let's see what's this commotion was about
rewiev
@@Ashachi I imagine the meme of the little dog with the wired teeth to that :-)
They didn't want the new models compared to their past range, just with competitor's models.
Same I've been in the market for a 32" 1440P screen for months now, don't like the over saturated colors from the ASUS and I was worried LG would mess this one up.
@@JohnDoe_75 well you can turn colour saturation down, I stuck with CRT on a Pro Iiyama for years, because LCD had cartoon colour, but I bought a recon Asus which I'm happy with. I haven't totally finished with tuned settings, I have even tried the HDR.
I think most ppl prefer unnatural intense colours so that's the defaults
Hardware Unboxed EXPOSES LG and reveals their new 32 inch 1440p monitor is a SOLID buy!
HA!!! take that LG, Your monitor is pretty good, it's better than the last one and one of the best monitors available on the market!!! You don't control us??? Wait I'm confused.
They probably didn't want it to come to light that the 27" version has slightly better response time. Perhaps they thought this was the only metric gamers was interested in. But with Tim it's always: "Here are the compromises you're going to make". No monitor has ever gotten "This is the best shit ever! Buy it regardless of price!" from Tim.
What a power move, love this so much.
not interested on the monitor. Im just interested about that LG commotion thing
he made a separate video on it
@@hisfatness522 yeah I know thats why I wonder outcome and why LG didnt want them to publish
Hardware Unboxed is one of the only review channels on the whole internet that actually tests the monitors. Find someone else who will bother to lift a finger to test the color spaces. There never was anyone.
Tftcentral, Rtings and Pcmonitors all have been doing extensive testing for years, not just HU.
LG learned the lesson for bribing a honest reviewers
Cutest gay couple on youtube > LG
@@ANSELAbitsxb that’s disgusting
@@ANSELAbitsxb lol
Hats off to you guys! Solid reviews and no bullshit from corporate.
True rebels. lawl
I bet LG had some people that don't understand Western culture and were throwing money at reviewers to take a preferential direction, instead of figuring out how to communicate. It's good they've shuffled staff. What a nightmare!
Love to hear that they most probably lost their jobs or were degraded. Seriously, I'm sick and tired of this nowadays trend of higher echelons dickatry and absolute idiocy. One can't find fine job without struggling with their retarded approach to business in my country!
Edit: embarassing grammar mistakes
"Western" culture is not the one above all in morality. There are many so called Western companies like HP, Dell in computer industry, Shell, GM , Volkswagen who have done far worse to people who pointed out flaws in their products or practices. Also, Australia is in the eastern hemisphere
Wherever you are reviewers are paid to take a preferential position. The popular tech youtubers include the negatives of products which is good, but they still rely on the companies providing them with free products. Sponsorships are shady everywhere in the world, borderline lying about things (I love this game, I use this all the time, etc.)
It's charming how you think Western culture isn't entirely based on corruption and coercion bless you sweet summer child.
@@kesamek8537 well not entirely, many “western” countries have free speech and internet, unlike many other countries
Imagine how positive the review would be if HUB took a bribe. Would the monitor change our lives forever, grant us wishes... make us a sandwich?
Honestly it's quite average, fast mode for high refresh and off for console gaming. LG really didn't need to force anything about the review even though it had its flaws.
What's a good 32'' and 27'' for you? below 550$
@@_No20_ personally I like LG and Benq, but it all depends one what you want the most, whether it's color accuracy or low blur/artifacting or deep blacks etc. You'll have to look at each monitor review and ask yourself if you're fine with one good feature if it means a lower quality from another feature.
Venom415 ok! Thanks
@@VEN0M415 Thing is I liked this one lol but then you said it was average and it got me intrigued.
@@_No20_ average doesn't mean bad, just not something that doesn't outshines the rest of the competition
You don't need the best to get something great and an average product is all a person needs really.
Imagine ruining your reputation even though the review says the product is perfectly okay.
You guys are a class act! You gave LG a fair review after their attempt to coerce you. Well done!
Oops, LG did it again
They paid hardware unboxed, got lost in the game
Oh baby, baby
Oops, you think LG is in love
That is sent from above
They are not that innocent
This display is probably great. It's a shame the situation escalated like that...
Rubs hands, come at them Mr. Moustache!
i could tell you werent reusing footage because i am watching on my 27gl850 so it was easy to spot the differences hehe. bravo on not caving into lg's demands, much love from melbourne.
That is what we, in the business, call an "unfair advantage" :P
LG's response is appropriate.
HU's review is also appropriate.
The monitor itself is appropriate.
It is only appropriate to forgive LG for this incident, as it does not seem to be intentional.
They failed on the smartphone, hopefully they don't fail because of morality.
Hope they concentrate more on their monitors
they just want to hire Hardware Unboxed as their employee duhhh
Ahh man their phones are great. Typing on my lg v50 and its wonderful. Best phone i have ever owned even compared to my iphone 11 galaxy s20 or xiaomi
No,but it was because of the same department,marketing.
So after all that, there was nothing to be worried about. Amazing lol
Nothing to be worried about?, but compared to the same Monitors from other brands like Asus and Acer this Monitor has bad Timings, horrible contrast ratio and horrible problems with Motion Blur reduction because of there nano ips Panels, seen on this and on dell monitors too who are using LGs Panels. But yea, beside that, there is nothing to worrie about, lol
@@kizuda6943 Im referring to LG creating a complete PR nightmare for themselves. Their actions made it out like they were trying to hide something incredibly heinous. But no, the contrast, color, red ghost smearing etc isn't absolutely "1337" tier mind blowing cum in my pants. Big deal. Its still a good monitor.
@@nismofreak33 good that we dont have the same terms of what is called good and bad, lol. Maybe just expectations of different worlds.
After all these years of watching I still come back to these old videos for the glorious handle bar mustache 😂😂
You guys are just amazing. I love that despite LG being dicks, you guys high road them, stick to your review model, and in the end.... still point out the advantages and flaws just like you always do. Props to you guys!~
Still can't get over how incompetent the person you were conversing with was. Wonder where they work now.
Love the title and the thumbnail. 😊
Your integrity and honesty with us consumers is your greatest asset, never change that. The world needs more impartial people like you guys.
❤️
Why would LG try to do this when their monitors are already great overall ?
It just shows the team that communicated to HU have never seen past reviews or the products they sell themselves.
Having engineers in the PR team would actually help since most of the tech today is too advanced for these non tech PR guys who have no idea what's the difference between the previous and present products.
Having engineers on board the PR team would help with "realistic" expectations from product reviews.
The PR team was from a different company. Still owned by LG, but a different sub-company. So they have no display engineers, because all they do is PR.
When are they going to release OLED monitors?
144hz OLED ultrawide that does at least hdr 600 true black being max 1000-1500 euro would be a dream
When they can manufacture 27"/32" OLED panels reliably? Otherwise they just won't be competitive in pricing at all.
Personally I would rather skip to mini led monitors. They're brighter with less burn in
LG already makes 4k 32'' oled monitor but its only 60hz
@@ThunderingRoar is that out yet I thought it was just mentioned at CES
Do they not understand that you guys can buy most hardware to review?
The fact that their guidelines didn't even make a difference compared to your regular review process results makes me wonder... *why did they bother?*
No wonder it's weird that I can't find this review anywhere
And thats why we love this channel - 100% honest and transparent reviews.. FU LG , FU Nvidia :)
@jparkerwillis the lord Johnny sins shall cast it
@jparkerwillis When it comes to decieving people Hardware Unboxed is sin-free !
I just bought this thing two days ago, and it's absolutely amazing! It is so buttery smooth quick. And I'm only running an rtx 2060. I mainly play pubg and I'm getting 120-150fps which is completely fine for me
Great news! I have a 2070 super and I've had an eye on this for a while now but I'm playing New World and unfortunately my fps are at around 50 In the towns lol. Was try to decide between this and the acer preditor xb323u and I think this is the one I want.
Should it be giving you 165hz since This is a 165hz monitor?
@@ezzyMODE well fps is from your hardware and the monitor can provide up to 165hz, so if you can run games at higher frames than 165 then you’d want a faster monitor. So In turn this monitor would be ideal for what frames I can push :)
The marketing department owe the engineering department an apology
Glad Hardware Unboxed stays open and transparent to shady propositions from Brands, because I value you guys reviews on products very highly. Personally bought 2 high end monitors due to your honest recommendations and reviews in the past year. I doubt I would have spend that amount of my money if you guys would not recommend certain models and brands. Very happy with my Samsung G7 and my HP Omen x27 ;) thank you Hardware Unboxed for everything you do! You guys rock! And I am looking forward to future reviews and recommendations.
LG monitors are awesome. Never had a problem with quality from them, and i had over 10 for personal use and hundreds in my company for my employees. Always got IPS models, they are fast for gamming, great colors, nothing to complain. As technology progressed, so did them. I'm still baffled as to why they felt the need to influence and hide things from the customers, there's simply no need for that. The only conclusion i can come up with is realy poor management from the people who thought it would be a good idea to show more results and better pay bonus.
It would be funny to see something like a LG CX/C1 48" OLED "Monitor" as a comparision....with
Great work guys on the review...and the quality of channel.
I bought a lg 27gl850 nano about 9 months ago and have had good luck with it. Great balance of quality/price imo.
I don't normally watch monitor reviews, but decided to watch this one if only to see the obvious punch line to this whole story.
You did not disappoint.
Excited to hear that they are indeed implementing changes to how they work with reviewers. You guys seem to have handled the whole situation well and facilitated positive change. Nice work!
I have an LG tv I bought back in 2008, its a 50" and it still runs strong to this day, it still looks good too! Shes got some thiccc bezels though!
Funniest part so far... the LG ad before the video is even started
Seems like a generally good review for LG.... Too bad LG smeared themselves trying to pay you guys off.
Great that you stuck to your guns. Too much curruption in Australia at the mo.
LG is not an australian company...
LG: We don't want you to upload the review
Hardware Unboxed: We'll do it anyway
**Review turns out positive**
LG: Confused Pikachu face
I'm just seeing this video now and dude mad respect for you. You've just earned yourself a life long subscriber
seems a pretty good monitor, I think LG kinda shot themselves in the foot by trying to force people not to use their product the way they want... they should not take hints from apple...
I dont think that the whole company "LG" has an evil mentality of buying reviews. I think it is more the actions of one or some inexperienced employees that did not know what things appropriate and which are not (like paying for testing in a certain way).
But still I strongly support exposing these things because that will stop other companies from trying to do the same.
Aka Corporate drones (not proper employees)
I am so glad I got my MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD.... Best all around performance IMO!
I had a 27inch 2k Acer Predator upgraded to 32inch. Lg ultraGear 32 IpS love it smooth only thing I don't like it can't move left/right
I still can't get over the 32" hype. Sometimes I feel uncomfortable on my 27" Monitor while gaming already.
Yeah I tried a 28" 4k monitor. Too big for desktop up close IMO
I though 24 inch was small until i put one on my table...
These monitors are for people with narrow table
Yet now my monitor is now 48 inches, haha
Using an LG 32inch 1440p. It's amazing and very immersive.
I have a 27inch in portrait next to it. Some people just like it mate.
People be different
Out of all monitors i love this one the most actually: BenQ XL2546K. I watched a video from OptimumTech and i was really impressed.
I'd love to see hardware unboxed's review on it
@Hardware Unboxed, WOW. Thank you so much for the non filtered(not listening to LG’s review request) and for the extremely detailed and helpful input. I just got a 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra card and need a monitor that holds up well to testing and perfect for my competitive play style in first person shooters. By far the most helpful and explanatory (with results to show) video I’ve seen on gaming monitors and I’ve been looking deeply into the 32GP850 1440p and was just about to purchase. Glad I found you. Thanks again mate!
Did you get the 32"or the 27"?
I bought this LG 32GP850 monitor before this review came out. I have found no flaws with it. In fact, I love that it auto-switches signal inputs between 3 different PCs (1 DP, 2 HDMI), and the G-Sync works great with the RTX 3070 Ti graphics card on the DP input.
How does text look on this screen, I do a lot of work in word? Thank you!
@@zero15388 text is crisp, but then again, I am running Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti graphics cards via DisplayPort.
Does the monitor have a big glow effect?
@@turtle96025 If it does, I may have turned it off in the settings. I don't care for RGB lighting or glow effects. All my PCs are dark builds.
@@l.i.archer5379 Is this monitor worth considering for purchase or does it have significant problems?
This is the forbidden review about the monitor that shall not be named.
So, this is the monitor it was all about.
Honestly, if it did not had all this review drag behind it thanks to LG, it would actually have been a pretty decent monitor.
buy the product, not the brand
Think about LG ceo watching this review 🌚
Well, now LG has to deal with the "Streisand effect". What would have just been a review of a decent monitor is now getting people suspicious because of how they've acted and tried to control the review process.
Well I didn't buy an LG, I bought a reconditioned Asus 32" one instead, one a class up on my intended model.
So many companies have transgressed corrupting reviews, the white list is shrinking.
Those who genuinely reform do need to be forgiven.
Plot Twist: LG deliberately "controlled" the review to stir up controversy and publicity.
uhh
@Lungho I assume he's just joking, I see these jokes on UA-cam all the time.
Gotta like it when a team of Aussie techies take the higher ground.
Always good to remember this when considering monitors.
They always have good monitors, so I dont get why there is a need to suppress reviewers. Marketing people are silly
I dont get it. Lg makes good products. Why are they acting like a holes. It would be like you order dinner and love it but right before you go to leave a tip your waiter comes and says if you dont leave me a tip I will break your kneecaps. Like things would of worked out great if you just acted like a normal person
Korean culture.
Language Barrier, greedy "external" marketing department...
@@Zetraxes that (or rather asian mentality) and people involved being normies who usually work with "influencers".
(now I'll go and wash my hands after writing this word)
For sugar coating ?like fuck samsung get this it's best ... Type of marketing
I will make sure to share this video and the other video that showed their rubbish management email
I'm so happy to hear they'll be changing things up, thanks for keeping the tech review space safer for consumers!
LG nanocell screens have terrible black levels/contrast.
Sad. But true
Again? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LGs PHILOSOPHY is the issue here! It will not change as long as the whole staff isnt changed out
Did you watch the video?!
Johno yes i did, iam following the company for yeads, dont worry my friend. Although i have to say that even LGs philosophy is way better than Samsungs but thats a diffotopic
I recently got the LG 27GP850. So far so good. It replaced my original LG 27GL850. Let it be clear that I wanted the higher refresh rate and gave my fiance the previous model now we both have quality monitors to game on. Im using a 3080 and she is on a 3070.
Great review. But the title is a bit clickbaity. Please don't go down the Linus route of making all your thumbnails and titles like this :D I love your reviews.
There really is no good company out there
a company has individuals that don't always make the best decisions.
1st
GDI. I missed just by 50seconds
The 24 dislikes are from LG employees xD
Tim also show us ips glow and bleeding test picture of the monitor in the dark room, its simple missing from ur review.
LG pulled off the perfect marketing stunt.Now everbody wants to buy that ,,Top Secret,,, LG Monitor hahahhahahh.
LG: Objective accomplished! Now everybody knows about your new product, even more so than they otherwise would have cared for.
LG engineers could probably market this product better based on passion, instead of a dedicated marketing team that has none.
in my country the 27GP850 cost around 600 Euros but i can buy it in germany for around 450 Eruos on amazon (which doesnt add tax fees) and the 32GP850 isnt currently available as far as i can see on Amazon but in my country i can get the 32GP850 for 50 euros more (650 euros in total) than the 27GP850 and the M32Q cost basically the same as the 32GP850 both on amazon and in my country (650 euros roughly) so in my eyes the 27GP850 is the clear winner :)
the whole situation and the overall review is why i always watch hardwear unboxed before buying anyway
LG: tries to manipulate HUB so Tim give 'em some slack
Tim: scrutinizes even harder
Dat's the spirit!
Don’t know if I should get this monitor or the Odyssey G6 Curved QHD Gaming Monitor for Xbox series x.
I have no clue what overshoot is, yet, I always watch your reviews 🤣
Suggestion for a graphical improvement. In the response time chart, the color ranges seem to be hard-coded to specific response times, rather than scaled to the response window available in the monitor refresh rate when looking at variable refresh rate performance. From my POV it would make more sense to have any value that comes in below the Refresh Window to be on the greenish side of yellow, and above the refresh window to be on the yellow/orange/red scale. As an example, looking at the 120 Hz normal mode chart about 6:53, the refresh window is 8.33 ms, but many values under 8 ms are colored orange in the response time chart, which could lead more visually-oriented viewers to think that the response time was unacceptable for those transitions.
I'll always appreciate that Hardware Unboxed keeps their reviews 100% honest, to the point where even a pretty awful marketing practice of trying to control the reviewing process doesn't affect Hardware Unboxed's opinion on the product.
Wait a minute. Either, I am going through a seriously strong DejaVu episode. Or?
Nope. This is the 27gl850 in 32" pretty much... Which everyone was expecting, given the name was 32gl850.
This thorough process review is much appreciated, thank you.
Makes me wonder why there are no 24'' 1440p screens.
But in the end, a good monitor, there is nothing that LG needs to hide.
Getting behind on scheduled for the many 4K 144Hz monitors, this whole LG thing will be last month news.
Smashing review, best I ever saw on your channel. Not because of the content necessarily, but the very publication of it is very important.
are the comparison tables posted somewhere? would be cool to have a permanent top 50 of the channel always shown and updated
All the dislikes are people mad that LG didn't try to bribe them.