The Vanilla Morrowind Combat Experience
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Two disclaimers; one, this is a level one character with like, 5 skill in Long Blades. Two, I-I only noticed after recording I still had TGM on from my earlier mod testing.
In other words, the video is purely meant as a joke, you humongous autists.
fire an arrow,
it goes through a guys head,
misses anyway,
NWAH THERE IS NO ESCAPE
i fucking love that game
hellow this is kikiyama
i am release yn ver. 1.0
oh no i have been fookumshima'd
SHOOT an arrow
Why has nobody made a mod where arrows and darts/shuriken etc.. that miss can have a "second wind" effect where if you line up two enemies the arrow can hit the guy in back even if it "misses" the one in front lmao. It would actually make archery builds more fun tbh.
*Flashbacks about the first two hours of the game*
hola man soy sub
I was raped by a mudcrab :(
don't forget.
Lol true
*first 2 weeks
El último lugar donde esperaba ver a dani 0_o
My personal little pet theory is, when you get off the boat and start the game, you character has such shitty skills with weapons that they manage to miss ON A QUANTUM SCALE. Yeah, even though the blade visually connects, it just goes through the spaces between the atoms of your target's body.
If the game had been made in a different time, it would just show your enemies dodging or your blows glancing off of their armor. Which would have actually been a fun thing.
That might have made it feel less arbitrary, but I don't think it would have made it any more 'fun'.
People defend the game's combat by saying "it's like D&D". Seriously? Have they even played D&D? In D&D even a first level thief can hit with a blade ~50% of the time. Unless your dice are cursed and you can only roll 2s and 3s.
Sam Douglas
I've been able to hit things more than 50% of the time at level 1. I've said it before, I'll say it again, Redguard with long blade major skill. As long as you don't have very low fatigue, you can hit just fine.
That's the main thing which tends to stop people from hitting consistently. If your fatigue bar is down to 0, your chance to hit drops significantly at low levels. Holding the attack button for 1-2 seconds also makes it easier to hit.
I think that better animations would have made the combat more engaging because then it's not just two guys standing still and making the same few attack animations at each other.
But choose wrongly and even a steak will dodge your blade...
Sam Douglas
Yeah if you pick an Argonian and decide to use a weapon that isn't a major skill for you, you're gonna have a bad time. When you play Morrowind, you have to play to your natural strengths.
You have to use a spear as an Argonian at first, or a bow as a Bosmer, or a long blade as a Redguard. All you have to do is actually read and pay attention at the beginning and you're fine.
Your argument is invalid, because by that same logic I could say that Star Wars: KotOR is bad because if you only use a blaster pistol the whole game and don't get any feats for blaster combat then you won't be able to beat the game.
Yeah, if you shoot yourself in the foot then you won't do very well. That's how it is in an RPG, most times.
Legend has it, they're still fighting to this day
Good one haha
+Alex Hall There you go man 69th like!
+19arti10 sorry mate, it's showing 68. You've disappointed me
Alex Hall Well someone took off 1 like.
+19arti10 disappointment is in the air
Morrowind truly innovated the genre when it came out.
Just, not in a combat way.
You have to know how to use the weapons.
www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Combat
Look at whatever type of combat it is better at and perform it.
Max Lynch You think people just don't understand the combat? These people know perfectly well how it works, it's just a horrible system, particularly when it comes to fatigue.
Kyl Harrt it's a dice system just like 90% of all the rpgs... when it is in 3d it looks a bit weird
TheStolken so this is almighty morowind ....... welllllll its time to go back to skyrim
funny one +1 for you
Wow the new skywind soundtrack sure sounds great
@@eleven99 the bonus track is soundscape 007
Cloud Shave shieeet but that’s good
It's like that one DnD game I ran where I never rolled higher than a 5 all night...
At least in DND it does create some spectacular situations.
Cue epic duel between the great champions of two armies...
... proceeds with 6 rounds where neither of them can hit the other one, with multiple critical fails on themselves, both of them appearing like complete lemmings!
It's amazing how quick DnD can devolve into slapstick comedy, lol
SinerAthin The champion of the entire army fights you in a duel. He proceeds to drop his sword, trip on it, and then fall face forward. Leaving you there to stab him in the throat. You go to him and somehow miss five times.
My first RP (warhammer universe) I had no idea what I was doing and this guy was making sure I knew it the entire time. So I got fed up with it, asked if I could kill this dick. He laughed at me being a noob and then I rolled a perfect 20 and proceeded to blast his skull in.
Good first RP.
You try a coup de grace. Roll. (1)
...you missed his neck. You try again. Roll. (1)
You fumble the blade and drop it. You pick it up and try again. Roll. (1)
You try to cut his throat and accidentally cut off your own finger. Roll to save against your own stupidity. (1)
...roll again. (1)
Okay, we're going 4th edition. Roll for third save. (1)
...
Rocks fall, everyone dies.
"But we're outside--"
*ROCKS FALL EVERYONE DIES.*
liger04 Roll to see how painful the rocks are (1)
The rocks are covered in spikes and fire.
“Sneezing in morrowind”
Ahh Ahhhh Ahhhhh
*you failed to sneeze*
“Sneezing in oblivion”
Ahh Ahhhh Ahhhh
*STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SUCM*
Sneezing in Skyrim
*Warning this sneeze mod requires Skyrim bodily functions rework SSE to function properly*
sneezing in skyrim
*knocks the greybeard of the cliff*
*failed to sneeze* LMFAOO
@@virgin2017 happened to me everytiem💯
This shit is what drove me to become a mage...
+Mr Pyro *Your spell failed.*
Spooge
At least you could go to some cave and do training drills without the need for targets to increase your skills.
+Spooge But at least, the spell chance is written next to its magicka cost ... So you can predict if you will or not be able to cast your spell properly. Whereas with weapons ... you can't tell.
Maria Vacci
Ah, yes. An excellent point.
Go to ghost gate, steal armor. Sell armor to mudcrab merchant. Get money. Buy weapons training. *done.*
The great thing about Morrowind is you could enter any house and be practically free to train your skill on the old lady living there.
Kaisar Dragon I fucking lost my shit
Until she kills you with her bare hands.
@@Rafael-ie1uf accurate
love too persist in the doomed world i have created
Wow, so immersive I thought this is real life footage.
Yeah in real life you wouldn't stand a chance against an Ordinator either lol
If you pick up a melee weapon in real life that you've never held before you're not going to hit the broad side of a barn either
@@BiomechanicalBrick x to doubt
@@fhddhdhk9319well if you do hit the target, the lack of skill will prevent you from cutting through it thus doing little to no damage. You also need to take into account that enemies in morrowind are also trying to dodge your attacks or make them glance off their armor, there's just no animation for that.
@@BiomechanicalBrick anyone can swing a sword and do damage just like anyone can use a knife. But it takes and master to use it to it's full potential like in skyrim.
Whatever n'wah. Morrowind combat made me into the Nerevarine I am today
Oy vey n'wah I don't have to take that shit from a sw'it like you
oy gevalt muh argonian invasion
@Jiub
Saint Jiub?!
What I love about Morrowind is that by the time you are at the end of the game (Beaten the main quest, done a lot of side stuff, have badass gear) the game subconsciously makes you feel like a god. It just works, because you actually have a point of contrast at the beginning of your playthrough as you couldn't figure out how to use a sword, you were taking the Silt Strider just like everyone else, and you were treated like a commoner. They kept a little bit of that from oblivion, but they made you seem a little to important in the first 2 minutes when you were in the emperor's dreams, and even more so in Skyrim where in the first hour, you could absorb a soul of a fucking dragon
so true
+Xx simone xX What has this comment got to do with anything? It has nothing to do with the video.
Ruairoquai Well, its Morrowind for one, and the video is depicting a person who has presumable less than 10 skill in the weapon he is using, who is attacking a bunch of dremora guards, showing how if you don't think and choose skills wisely, the game will not be as forgiving as the others are. Thus leading to my comment.
Xx simone xX The video is about how Morrowinds combat sucks. Your comment isn't.
Ruairoquai What are you? The comment police? Who fucking cares?
There is no escape.
*N.O.E.S.C.A.P.E.*
No recall or intervention can work in this place!
What a fool you are. I'm a god, how can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. No recall or intervention can work in this place. Come, lay down your weapons, it is not too late for my mercy.
N'WAH
legends say they're still fighting
*Looked at Nexus mods. See people flaming mod makers for touching the 'perfect' combat of morrowind*
Humanity never fails to astound.
Morrowind fans are like that
It is perfectly fine
Guts 0:00
Dumbfucks actually think the vanilla combat is fun lol
And to think I have probably spent over 1000 hours of my life in this game.
+YOSHICLAN TrueEpikDuck I know man i know it is not hard to believe, you probably spent 500 hours only by trying to hit enemies xDDD. Also that elf with the knife, DIE DAMN YOU, tara tatatata... No that was really funny. I will never leave skyrim and duel to play morowind xD as a pure warrior.
***** Man, at least 750 was hitting dudes and 250 was raging about how my character was so high level my game broke. But you know what they say, Fallout 4 till ES: 6.
Looks nice fallout 4, but my pc will exploit with it... So i will work for a ps4 this summer
Eh, they're basically the same for now, until the modding community can really get on it's feet and some more tools come out.
+Slothonaut Worth.
The stats are not strong in this one.
Teirdalin Shadowfall The description says he is level 5 long blade :P
Max Haynes In a roleplay sense; with 5 long blade he's essentially on-par with www.portlandmercury.com/binary/26b0/1334947127-slapfight.gif in terms of fighting skill.
Teirdalin Shadowfall But a piece of sharp metal coming into contact with you doesn't really matter how skilled you are at using it, so in a roleplay sense, all weapons take on a ghost form when swung by inexperienced people, thats the only explanation that fits, because I don't care what roleplay rules are suggested, if you make contact, you make contact.
Whether or not the hit is effective is up for debate.
EpicWinNoob True. The way the system is designed works better on pen & paper play where you don't have visuals of your blade passing through them, and the "misses" you make during these attacks in a pen & paper sense would just be you having to imagine your character swinging at the enemy and them either deflecting the attack, blocking it, dodging it, or your character straight-up missing. Older RPGs which used the pen n' paper systems like Morrowind, Neverwinter, Baldur's Gate, IWD, planescape, arcanum, etc just gave little "miss" messages. The main difference though between them and Morrowind is that in Morrowind you're from the perspective of the player and not just floating from a distance, and can literally see your blade going in collision with them; without you seeing the math which is going on in the background or why it was a miss; which just causes frustration.
+Teirdalin Shadowfall The problem at large is really a matter of the fact that there is a severe lack of urgency in the combat. The system being used in the game is abstracted and suits a tactical perspective with multiple characters, but you're playing it in the first person perspective which is primarily for action or puzzle games that require a higher amount of player input and skill with the mechanics. It really usually just boils down to you sitting there while mashing the attack key, or running backwards and kiting with a bow or spells, whereas in other heavily abstracted RPG's your paying more attention to positioning, party co-operation, etc. which is where most of the fun comes from.
You can definitely tell god mode's on, cause if it wasn't that ordinator would have 1-hit KO'd you. :P
Or modded out the ass agility.
Everyone's first playthrough in a nutshell.
I remember being like "tf is this shit, y I no hit"
Only for me to realize I had a 10 in short blades.
Good times.
Morrowind is an amazing game, but Christ, what the hell were they thinking with that combat system?
Interesting, how many RPG have you played? :)
It's shit. Doesn't matter how many RPGs you've played. Shit is still shit.
Muffin Cannibal You must know how it works, in many RPGs combat is like damage - miss - damage - miss depending on your skills. If you take a hammer playing a thief, you can't use it properly.
Ramiz S Yeah but it's still shit for a first person game. And your smugness is unjust fuckboi.
There's a reason why the DICE combat system never caught on with later games...
I would understand throwable weapons need skill and precision but why blunt weapons?
You n'wah!
Stephanus Tavilrond Didn't I saw you in another morrowind video ?? So random xD
Prolly a coincidence.
Sure
Stephanus Tavilrond It''s you!
+Stephanus Tavilrond (Irrational Yuriphobe) This is the end of you, s'wit!
by level 80 you still miss most of your hits, from my experience
BUT THEN THOSE BLOODY SKELEToNS NO THEy Get TO HIT YoU EVerY GOD DAMn TimE
Sounds like you need some A G I L I T Y friend c:
Not defending the combat system but by level 16 you're destroying everything in the game precisely because you never miss.
Just play a mage, remove the rng, become invincible eighteen different ways, and one-shot everything that does and doesn't move.
Rin Tezuka Redguard + level 100 longsword + adrenaline rush = rip everything
I think the best character for kicking ass without leveling anything would have to be a redguard warrior.
Those starting stats are just so beastly.
this is not entirely true because the NPC is not hitting you either. they would always hit you
he has god mode turned on.
I sincerely hope people realize that he has 5 skill in long blades.
thats not the problem, it shouldnt even be a dice roll to attack someone.
Ciretako Its not personally you dipshit, ask anyone even the hardcore morrowind players and they will tell you its shit. if it was any other way they would accept the change. Your the only one getting butthurt over this.
MrPepsicola123 I like the dice roll combat because it relies on stats and other factors. Better than endlessly swinging foam swords at each other dealing 1.5 damage.
I played vanilla Morrowind on the Xbox. Get on my level nerd
MrZurata your calling me a nerd when you are going on about dice roll combat. whats the point of swinging a sword if it means it depends on a dice roll. there is no point.
MrPepsicola123 Your one of them normies aren't ya
You'd think they'd at least put in some kind of audio detection for a miss.
When I first played it, I had to pinch myself.
Thought I had gone to hell, experiencing lag in a singleplayer.
swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh HACK swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh swoosh SLASH swoosh
ps: My first TES game, still loving it lol
+1 here
hearing that whack is all the more satisfying when it comes after approximately 10,342 swooshes
I remember from playing this game, that if you held the button for longer to charge the power of blow, you had much better chance of hitting your enemy. Same thing was happening if you were walking around during the fight, to change the attack mods. Remember you had three attack options with each sword, knife, axe or hammer.
The key to not dealing with this shit is to pick major and minor skills that align with the racial bonuses your race gets. A wood elf archer will be able to hit enemies with a bow early game. A redguard with a longsword will be able to hit enemies early game. A nord with a battle axe will be able to hit enemies early game.
If you insist on playing a class that doesn't match your race, you gotta find some money and visit a weapons trainer. Once you get past a threshold you stop missing so much
Exactly. People want to start their games while throwing stat points into a bunch of misc skills right out of the gate, and wonder why they can't hit anything lol. If you want to use a blade, try starting with a character that's proficent with one. Pick it as a major skill. They just don't understand that it takes more than a couple minutes thought to create a character. Hell, I can sometimes spend near an hour perfecting how I want to start out lol.
Joe Shmoe or just get a shit ton of agility XD
30 spear can hit basic enemies half the time.
Ordinators are End Tier baddies, they have high agility which counters weapon skills. So with 30 spear skill you will miss 90% of the time. There is a reason Ordinators have some of THE BEST medium armor AND carry Ebony Maces.
Mega Mawile
AmoebaCapeta fromHell Yes?
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Full fatigue bar? Pfft.
ENGAGING COMBAT EXPERIENCE!
Whoever makes an action RPG and thinks a dice roll should dictate when you hit and miss an enemy is the biggest n'wah ever. Even back in the day this was stupid as hell.
And the fanboys say Skyrim dumbed down the combat system...I dont think you can dumb down a stupid system
Morrowind improved it, then Skyrim dumbed it down
+Lawful Trek *Oblivion improved it
LOL when you dont have a shield you are basically fucked good luck blocking with one handed weapons.
+Lawful Trek
Morrowind combat was worse than Daggerfall. At least in DF you could actually hit things.
*****
I beat the game. Take your baseless assumptions and shove them up your ass.
Morrowind with Oblivion/Skyrim combat system. Now that would be awesome.
I cannot wait for Skywind
1:54 THERE IS NO ESCAPE
eat, pee, eat. still not dead yet.
best video ever 11/10 would sleep again
Eh, the Morrowind combat is really a hit and miss for me. Get it? Get it? Okay I'll kms now...
Aha
For those that don't play morrowind, it is really only like this on level 1. If you hear people legitimately complaining about this issue, it means they played the game for five minuets and gave up, or they never played it period. A half decent character with a weapon they know how to use will never miss it's target. It takes literally the tiniest bit of patience to get past this small issue in one of the greatest games of all time.
+Art Murder I'm genuinely convinced that the people that complain about morrowind's combat are the same people that argue with DM's on whether or not they hit something in combat during a session of D&D.
IT'S THE SAME THING, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BEING VISUALS THERE FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT.
+Nuzzyfuts NO I SWEAR I ROLLED A NATURAL 20!!
I'm a noob I have played skyrim and I'm tracing back to the older titles. but what determines what weapons you can use and how effective you are with those weapons if you don't mind me asking? :D
i played it for like 2 hours and thinking of getting graphics mod because the view distance isnt great thats the only thing really
Alfiejj93 I've played the game for hundreds of hours and the graphics never seem to bother me.
Saying the combat system in Morrowind is good, is like saying a blank canvas is modern art.
it's good. It's just not your perspective.
Blank canvas is modern art. It's just not your perspective.
@@user-ms5tq1dh7i lol
Morrowind has literally the WORST combat I have ever experienced in a video game. Ever.
Jo291 Jordan You should try Murdered: Soul Suspect...
i played morrowind and i loved it, but the idiotic dumbfucks that's defending the combat system is fucking ridiculous, just admit it the combat system suck ass
I'm pretty sure that it's you who sucks ass. Get some proper character builds, mate. If you start with 25 in your main weapon skill, of course you won't have a good time.
Morrowind's combat system was good, it only had two major issues. Dice rolls for attacks, and Dice rolls for blocking.
You're fucking stupid lol. If you knew anything about the combat system, you'd know that you need to limit yourself to only weapons that your character has in its major skills.
glitchhunter09 how does a shitty fighting system make me stupid? i know how it works, i know how fucking shit it is .That system only works for turn based game. Limiting myself to those weapons are the reason why the game's combat system is shit in the first place.
But what do i expect from someone with a childish username like your's and cancerous videos
David Nguyen
You obviously don't know how the combat works, if you did, you'd be hitting stuff off the boat. You're supposed to pick a weapon based upon your Major skills early on if applicable. You can't expect to hit anything if you don't understand how it works. Let's say you have 5 long blade skill like in the above video and you go up to a rat. You're gonna miss a lot because your character is not very skilled with long blades.
Now as an example of hitting things, Let's say your character starts with a spear skill of 30 or so. As long as you keep your fatigue up and your agility is a decent level, you should be able to hit most of the time with a spear.
A good build to pick for a first time player is arguably either Steed, Barbarian, Redguard or Steed, Barbarian, Nord.
The Redguard one gives you a better speed boost but the nord one has better defensive skills (eg Woad which gives you a magic shield, and regular magic shields add armor as an armor bonus during their duration.) and they can tank through most early game enemies. Plus Barbarian Class gives you a fair amount of weapon options early on.
As for the steed Birthsign, it grants you a speed bonus so if you run into something you can't take down, you can retreat and heal up then come back when you're ready. Trust me, the Barbarian Class and steed birthsign alone give you like 80 starting speed.
Gotta up dat agility, bra.
Yeah fuck that, my agility and long swd is high. The combat still sucks at level 14 in. Theres a good reason they never used this shit for any other game they made after. It sucks, it practically ruins the open world exploration aspect of the game because you're getting fucked up by crowds of enemies that you can't even hit all the time, but a slaughter fish or rat can take you down to a qtr health before you kill it. Chance based combat for a 3d open world title was damn near game breaking.
@@1dyingwish what they need is more dice.
I started playing Morrowind again recently, opting to play as a Dunmer necromancer type of character who specializes in Conjuration, Illusion, and Axes (because why not). Dunmer don't have any racial bonus's to Axes and they are quite heavy. However, the "Bound Axe" spell gives you a Daedric axe (which does 1-80 damage, pretty OP) which gives you a constant +10 in Axe skill while equipped and choosing Axe as a major skill during character creation leaves you with around 30-40 Axe Skill. I very rarely miss and 30 out of 100 is not a very high amount of skill, especially with low Agility since I'm playing a magic user. You also do more damage and hit more often with higher Fatigue and if you hold the attack button longer (to charge your swing).
I think a lot of people have misconceptions about the combat system here, it's not faulty or bad it's just a different take on it. For example, in Skyrim or Oblivion if you fight a very high level monster you will always hit them but you'll do essentially 0 damage (Except you never face a high level enemy because the world levels with you, which I think is bullshit and removes any excitement from random encounters). In Morrowind you simply won't hit them. Functionally this system is the same, being unable to combat outside of your effective level range, however in Oblivion/Skyrim the game does provide some feedback which I see as a big plus.
The caveat of Oblivion/Skyrim's system is that they can't be as deep with the skills, spells, and calculations of how combat is handled. There are no Sanctuary or SIlence/Dispell/Sound spells which augment the function of level gap hit/miss. All the really interesting spells and calculations are what draw me to Morrowind, personally. I enjoy how much thought goes in to my progression, what skills and spells I focus on, and the danger of exploring a world that doesn't level with me.
When ever people rant about how good Morrowind was and how the series has been ruined i always remember this. Granted they did take out a lot of fun skills and kept shrinking the map down with each new installment.
he has tgm on. ordinators dont miss like that
The funniest thing about all this, is "Old-school" TES players harp on Skyrim for having really dumb combat....
+Snorlax Man Well...it has thou
Zajin13 Yeah, but they act like Morrowind had this amazing combat. You could manage your stats directly in Morrowind which was dope, but in terms of gameplay Skyrim beats Morrwind, even being as bland as it is.
Snorlax Man Even though Morrowind is a core of my childhood i have to agree, it has its flaws. But what Morrowind lacked in terms of combat, graphics (obviously) and other mechanics like animations it still ascends in terms of immersion, roleplay and creativity when it comes to missions and their structure, atleast in my most objective opinion.
Zajin13 I hope you mean subjective but yeah, I think it largely depends on your first game.
Snorlax Man subjective = biased/based on emotion, objective = based on logic and facts-
I could be wrong though, as English is only a second language to me but, since our languages are related, i would say i have a fair chance at being right.
Huh, usually the ordinaters can hit you easily.
SpecialCrunch TGM command.
0:50 omg he actually hit something. That's the shit you don't see in vanilla Morrowind very often.
I feel like half the comments arent aware that this is entirely intentional and not an organic experience.
He's clearly a high enough level/nice enough equipment so he's able to dodge every attack, while using a weapon he's not skilled in. Also, spamming the attack doesn't deal full damage on the offchance he does manage to score a hit.
So no, this isn't what normally happens when playing. Unless you're level 1 and didn't build your character correctly. Or level 10 and didn't level your character correctly.
.... I played Oblivion/Skyrim first and then started morrowind ..
I really like the combat in Morrowind , the way you build your character really matters and you dont just trade hits like in TES4/5.
Dont get me wrong i love these games but morrowind is actually really easy if you actually think ahead A LITTLE BIT.
Combat is piss easy (Havent used magic yet!) , even from the beginning - dont just pick a race and class and expect to rule the world like in skyrim... **edit** Also dont just spam attacks like in the video ( I KNOW ITS A JOKE.. just saying!)
its actually important to hold down the attack button for like half a second , also the way you move determines if you do chop/Slash or thrust attacks ...
You dont like the game because of the graphics? Use some graphicmods and you will have a great time in morrowind.
I play it almost Vanilla , Normal graphics , Code patch (To make stealth and pickpocketing more viable)
and some UI mods and i am still having a blast :)
TL;DR
Dont give up , use your brain and plan ahead
but still missing 100 fucking hits eventhough you are aiming right is fucking stupid
Think it's easy playing es 4 and 5? Turn up your difficulty to the max and try playing with no magic, potions or shouts/powers.
Lol. How about playing with no hands, tied to your chair, blindfolded, facing the other way, while hanging upside-down.
Yeah, a game really is hard if you try to disregard 90% of its core mechanics. Now try to think a little before you speak.
Kaarn S.
Mate, I was replying to the person above, about Skyrim, not Morrowind. I prefer Morrowind's mechanics over Skyrim any day, don't insult me.
You do know that in a gaming environment the best way to model the randomness in life is with a dice roll. You do know that Right? Have you ever driven a nail and hit your thumb or finger? Does a person who shoots hit the bulls-eye every time they shoot? Does a hunter who aims kill the animal they were shooting at EVERY TIME? Do people ever get in to car accidents? There are a lot of variables when one does anything and actually its a good way to model life with dice rolls.
Me personally I think the difficulty of Morrowind is much overstated. When your level one in the game the treats you like your level one. Once your skills up just a tad bit things become a lot easier. Your first few hours playing this game will have you and your character feel like nothing, hell less than nothing but it makes it so much more worth it when you build up the gold to enchant your pants so they allow you to fly, or kill someone in one blow a almighty weapon from hell. Nothing compares however I will say always hitting in close combat like in skyrim makes more logical sense, however wtf gamemakers make your game actually challenging to person older than 5.
Zachary Hough the game isn't difficult
thanks for agreeing
+Zachary Hough What but why cant the game suck me off from level one, Am teh dergnborn after all.
+Zachary Hough from my own experience only the daedra ruins seemed to have respawning and leveled daedra.
everywhere else had pre-spawned enemys of a set level and gear.
but still....jump 100 pts for 2 seconds on self. *jumps halfway across morrowind* Fast travel bitches!
*uses slow fall amulet*
The definition of fun, the pinnacle of entertainment.
Please read the description of the video
Still beats minecraft combat.
No. It doesn't. I'd rather ring a doorbell and have it go off every time, then ring a doorbell until it decides to randomly ring.
Not nearly
Atleast in daggerfall they have sounds for the misses, hear you just flail around till you chip at their health
That has to be a mod somewhere
I love how there are always apologists. Pen and paper RPG's are the way they are out of *necessity*, not superior design, stop pretending it's a more sophisticated and cultured combat system. When you miss in D&D, the DM throws some flavour on it and describes an epic swing-and-a-miss, the enemy ducking or weaving or parrying the blow. When you miss in Morrowind, you just see your sword go through the enemy and nothing happens.
Neverwinter Night's had awesome little dodge and parry animations to keep the roll based combat visually interesting. There's no excuse for Morrowind's abysmal combat system.
Go zoom somewhere else
As soon as I get a PC that can run this game with graphic mods (I am very, very poor) I'll give it a try, but I think I'd still prefer a combat system like Skyrim.
Ideally Skywind will play like Skyrim but keep all of Morrowind's depth and complexity. So you can still pull of hilariously crazy things like jumping across the entire map in one leap with out bugs, mods, or console commands.
When turned based strategy games have better animations for their combat than your first person action game, you are doing something seriously wrong.
I can almost see the prompts in the top corner, they're saying: *Miss* *Miss* *Miss* *Miss* *Miss* *Miss* *Miss* *Miss* *Blocked* *Miss* *Miss* *Miss*
His weapon is broken, his skill in long blades is 5 and he has tgm mode turned on.
And people said skyrim's combat system is terrible XD
The people who say that have rose tinted glasses
i couldnt kill a rat with a sword so it killed me
11/10 for immersion
dying to a kwama forager in the first few minutes is a good feeling
Exactly, it's such a shit combat system.
It really makes me sad. Because people complain about the graphics of Morrowind but the graphics never really bothered me. I was loving the game UNTILL I got into combat and was like wtf... so I quit. Came back just recently and I quit again. Fuck Morrowind
As someone who started with Oblivion, moved to Skyrim, and only recently tried Morrowind, I have to say, I prefer Morrowind's combat on PC over the two former.
People. Please read the goddamn description before commenting "Hurt durr Morrowind sucks".
*N'wah!*
Such a great idea on paper by bringing rolls to the game, but man, do I still cringe seeing that microscopic chance to hit.
If it was turn based, it would’ve been fine really
In morowind lots of things factor into your combat
Agility
Skill with that wepon type
How much stamina you have
the list goes on and on
Morrowind is 100% a RPG and is in no way a action game this is why its combat is like this
Also yes I read the description this is for the comments
And this combat is supposed to be better than Skyrim because..........why again?
it's more realistic because you're free to improve your skills if they are important to you
but if you don't, you won't have a chance
more RPG. Skyrim's are for people wanted to be powerful since the beggining. Skyrim is simpler and easier.
@@user-ms5tq1dh7i I've seen RPGs that make this look pitiful. "More RPG" isn't a valid response.
@@Avrelivs_Gold Yes, it's completely realistic for a knife to pass through an enemy and it still breaks from use.
@@HolyknightVader999 long have i wait for someone who made an *DODGING* animation mod for that game...
You put melee combat in a first person / third person game, regardless of it being an rpg, I want to feel like my personal skill in moving, parrying, shield blocking, sidestepping matter. Not oh my stats are everything so combat doesn't matter. The arguments that just running up and flailing your weapon about like a dumbass is good combat, because your stats are what matters, does not fly with me.
This is why I liked Oblivion, and especially Skyrim ,much better.
There's still heaps of improvements they could do, but it's a great improvement nonetheless, especially if you add some combat mods.
I prefer games where the real gain is not just in weapons and shiny armor, but in your own skill as a player, meaning that even if you were naked, you could still kick ass through proper play.
Yeah, the Elder Scrolls games never really had good combat. Even in the later games, it wasn't really about skill but your stats and equipment. Morrowind's combat uses some kind of dice rolling system, so even if you aim and swing at the enemy, it would count as a miss if you don't have the stats.
I actually really like Skyrim's combat. Yes, stats are still involved, but it is an RPG after all, and that is one of its appeals. Skyrim just found a good medium of skill vs stats. Your stats are still important enough that trying to take on something way higher level is going to be a really tough and long fight. Yet, the fact I can move and actively participate in my battles adds to the immersion. Morrowind above is not participation. Its run up and throw dice at the enemy to see who wins.
lordetern I'm not sure I feel the same. In Skyrim, all combat boiled down to me is finding the best equipment or magic, having the right stats and swinging or shooting at the enemy until it dies (As well as running away and healing if necessary). You could get by the game without personal skill in combat at all, just the knowledge of where and how to get good stats and equipment.
But I really don't see lackluster combat being a problem in a TES game since the series is more into world building and interaction. Combat isn't really the most important element in these games, even if there's a lot of it.
Rikter Terran
Even if the combat isn't the centerpiece, one shouldn't discount its importance either.
The RPG scene has no shortage of people who'll go crazy over a good combat system, as the Dark Souls series can testify to.
A TES game with a good combat system only enhances the overall experience, especially since in almost any run, you'll be doing a lot of combat :P
I literally almost fell asleep while watching this.
I always loved that. "I've used this weapon for so long now, what if I use this one?"
*woosh.*
*woosh.*
*WOOSH.*
"I'm going back to my fucking mace."
some say they are still fighting
200 short blade i still miss every shot
Fuck Morrowind combat system
This was my experience with a rat. I died. Still my favorite game though.
This is why I'm excited for Skywind.
Me too :) I finally get to see how good Morrowind is
Unrealistic, the ordinator would've killed you in 3 swings
Morrowind is a great game and all but anyone who says that the vanilla combat system is awesome, cool and/or not boring Is lying to people, but more importantly lying to themselves out of fanboyism and wishful thinking. Stahp it. You're excuses are making me hate what you are defending even more... Am I the only one who thinks morrowind is awesome but they could have improved the combat? Why does everybody make an excuse for it and pretend they love it? Fair enough, each to their own and all, but really? Who liked that shit?...
Despite my nostalgia to Morrowind, I can remember my own hatred for this combat system back when I was a kid. It is great that you couldn't kill the best warriors of the game uniquely based on player's inputs but indeed, this is and WAS looking quite wrong in terms of animation. They could have easily simulated the enemy dodging or the weapon skidding/bouncing on enemy's armor. I don't know why it wasn't more refined either.
There is nothing wrong with the combat system. There are only retarded players.
It's been over a month and I'm still trying to find out what those two things have to do with one another.
VeryMelonCB thank you for speaking the truth
Thank God, I found a Morrowind fan who doesn't suck ass!
I actually gave up on Morrowind because of this
same here
@@jamesketchum5047 A good game ruined by the combat sadly
Keep playing man, it’s good if you do an alchemist build as well
*Makes successful hit* * Hits shield*
He probably enchanted his scrod so it misses 100% of the time, that was the fun of the game... if i wanted a pair of slippers that made me move really fast and paralyze everyone I could, something that is lacking in the newer titles...
my own little daedra artifact was a daedra dai-katana enchanted with fortify strength 1 to 100 for 2 seconds on self on hit.
so first hit would be standard when the next hit within 2 seconds would have a random burst of strength on hit. :P
Called it the "Daedric dai-katana of Hysteria"
I used a golden saints soul so it dished out a massive amount of damage before needing a recharge.
If you do your build correctly, this doesn't happen.
elaborate plz, ive been wanting to give this game a try
+Nicholas de la Torre This video shows combat with a lv 1 char who has 5 in long blade skill, trying to hit a fully armored (with best medium armor, even) high level guard.
In normal play, and unless you're suicidal, this situation would NEVER HAPPEN.
tl;dr you can hit things reliably unless you purposely hinder yourself
Tomix Ehh it would’ve been better to have your hits always land but the stamina/damage is messed up if you have low skills in these weapons. Applying dice roll mechanics on a first person action RPG is just awkward, not so much if it was turn based however
Dear God, I have no idea why, but this had me laughing like a madman for two whole minutes. Thank you, sir.
pls make gud combat mod for morrowang like skyerm does.
+RATPT0I Well morrowind's combat isn't bad, but if you want it to be easier. forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1513002-rel-oblivion-like-combat-tweaks-part-of-men-project/
Raise your bloody combat skills, sheez.
Level 1 skrubs vs Vivec Ordinators. What did you expect?
One of the worst combat systems in any game ever made. Really, it's the only thing that kept this game from being perfect. If only it weren't for the fact that 99% of the game is combat based....Beat the game once, and then never went back because of the combat.
Actually, if you start as a Redguard with high strength and longblade as a major skill, you can hit things very reliably even from the get-go, as long as you are fighting with high fatigue.
Oddly enough, I actually like the combat. It leaves a lot to your imagination, and it's like a tabletop RPG.
Never play D&D then.. It's honestly not that bad.
Combat wasn't that bad... just have to use your head and create a class that actually works with whatever race you picked. Also keep in the mind this video was made as a joke, the combat is no where this bad or annoying, not even close.
+Sammy McSwagFag Did you see that video, that was horrible lol.
This is why I never played more than 10 minutes of this game.
Trust me, I don't blame you at all. I regret buying it on Steam, lol
10/10 made a sandwich and watched this
This is why I prefer Dark Souls/Ninja Gaiden/DMC and why I cannot no matter how much I try, get into this game.
+Mephis182 Yeah see, that's because you have to mod Morrowind heavily to make it decent. But then Skyrim has that same issue if you ask me (at least after the initial 20 hours).
If you have to modify a game's content that much it really isn't that good.
When The Elder Scrolls was an actual rpg.
*When The Elder Scrolls was a shitfest.
Oblivion and especially Skyrim are severely dumbed down compared to Morrowind. To say nothing about Fallout. the folks at NMA and RPG Codex are still very salty about that.
+Hello It has the mechanics of a board game, but they *DO NOT* work well with something like The Elder Scrolls.
+CapMar-Vell92 Returns "Dumbed down" isn't quite the right pair of words for TES, that's the pair you'd use to describe Halo, Oblivion & Skyrim were *severely* improved in comparison to Morrowind, with a few compromises here & there.
At least Skyrim feels like a fucking game.
Can't wait for the sequel titled "Watching Paint Dry".
Damn n'wahs dunno how to level their Long Blades skill xDD
Srs tho it took me forever to learn how to build a character
this looks like runescape in first person
Haha, exactly
So damn accurate. XD
Not even close if you're not absolute shit in playing an actual RPG. A skill level of 1 in the weapon class he's using with subpar agility, Yeah, you're going to miss A LOT, because the game mechanics are saying that this enemy will reliably dodge every swing. If there were animations suggesting this however, the combat would be tolerable EVEN IF the result were the same just because you're not making contact with the enemy and hitting nothing but air.
Well he's a morrowind fan so... (that was a joke too btw just in case no noticed)
i feel like at some point they both just get tired and kinda just walk away from each other without a word
Two five year olds swinging sticks at each other
exactly
It's an Ordinator, just pretend he's dodging every blow.
Runescape endgame more-or-less
I agree. Bossing in RS3 is horrendous because of the splashing
There are way too many idiots in this comment section who think this is an accurate representation of Morrowind's combat. It helps to read descriptions.
The only thing i hated about Morrowind, was the Bow.. I mean, i throw like 500000 arrows and i do not hit they, wtf u man? The bow seriously sucks, and even with a Bosmer was to hard to hit a enemy with the bow.
+The Khurnax ? for me passed marksmen 60 the bow almost always hit
+Im Your father ^^ When I shot the bucket with bow in Oblivion for first time, I nearly came. After Morrowind archery it was like paradise.
+Im Your father ^^ wait you throw arrows?
Steel Delvin what the fuck you mean?
Steel Delvin you mean about my english? sorry about that then, i'm still learning
Swing and a miss.
muh immersion-meter is off the charts. 9/11. would do again.
Seriously, I get why people say Morrowind is an awesome game, and probably the best in terms of world/atmosphere/story out of the 3 latest elder scrolls games, but...Let's be honest, vanilla Morrowind was very mediocre in terms of gameplay.
This is why I wondered why everyone is so nostalgic about Morrowind when I played in 2015.
this is so quality when you watch this in 0.25x 😂😂😂 "you n'wah" has me dead 😂😂😂