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Here in the UK 🇬🇧 it's actually known as BST (British Summer Time) and there was a point during one of the world wars I think WW1 when we used DBST (Double British Summer Time) where we added/took off 2 hours 😲 😂 🤣 It is a pain in the arse though, not that it really affects me since even my watch uses radio controlled time so automatically switches for me 🤣 (and it's solar powered too so ⚖ 🤣)
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We had it for some time long ago before that, and gave up until it restarted some years ago and was given up again. It will probably return one day or the other.
That makes me wonder if when you had DST if you did in the Northern Hemisphere summer March to November or Southern Hemisphere summer October to April.
@@marlinpierce5262 it was during summer from October until March/April, cause the summer days are slightly longer (but the difference is not so intense as it is in northern countries)
@@DarkusObscurius I mean, Joji kinda put him and pink guy away cuz they were supposedly damaging to his voice and also exhaustive, so I guess it's kind of a good thing?
I lived in a place where day light saving time is applied and a place where it wasn’t. And the place where it wasn’t applied made things easier. Even though they didn’t change the time on the clock schools and work started 1/2 an hour later at winter since the sun rises later. But other than that everything else’s was the same. This was more in line with the body’s natural rhythm.
But changing the clocks is something you barely notice now anyway. You wake up on Sunday morning and notice it's an hour later than usual. Your phone adjusts automatically so there's not even anything you have to do yourself. And the benefits are not having the sun rise when 90% of people are still asleep for half of the year
@@vincevdarend3415 "You wake up on Sunday morning and notice it's an hour later than usual." Because people definitively don't work on sunday... oh wait, lot of people do. "And the benefits are not having the sun rise when 90% of people are still asleep for half of the year" But curtains are a thing....
@@Boby9333 curtains work both ways, you can use them in the morning but also in the evening so that argument doesn't stand. And people working early on Sunday are definitely a majority so I don't see how a minor inconvenience for them on 1 day of the year should hurt the rest of us for half of the year.
@@vincevdarend3415 it's not changing the clocks that's the problem, it's the way that time chance affects everyone. Everyone is tired for the first couple days of DST bc they lose an hour of sleep and it throws off their sleep schedule. Then even though we gain an hour of sleep for one night, everyone is really tired when the clocks fall back bc it gets dark earlier and once again it messes with everyone's sleep schedule
for me in Canada, I think the time change is ridiculous too. In the summer (during daylight saving time) the sun comes up at 3:30am and goes down around midnight. If it was left at standard time, it would go up at 2:30am and go down at 11:00pm... so we get an extra hour from 11pm to midnight.... we don't need an extra hour there. We NEED the extra hour in the winter when the sun starts to set at 3pm. Kids get out of school while the sun is setting and get no outdoor time after school. If daylight saving time continued in the winter, they would get an hour to enjoy the snow after school, who cares if the sun doesn't come up till 9am. I'd rather have some time to do something in the afternoon in winter since I have to get up while it's dark out either way.
@@commenter5901 You're the slight minority of Canada that has sunlight until midnight, you must be very far north. You make it sound like that's what it's like in all of Canada and it's not. Most of Canada has darkness by 10pm in the middle of summer with daylight savings time on.
Being a human biologist and researcher I think that studies concerning the circadian clocks in the human body are amazing. It has been shown that daylight saving time contributes towards seasonal affective disorder (or SAD, a fitting name) which is a form of depression normally occuring during winter. Here, serotonine levels are decreased by a protein which is blocked by sunlight. Besides links to forms of depression, disruptions of the circadian clock have been associated with type 2 diabetes, hypertension and cardiovascular diseases. (I'm planning to make a video about that myself). I really hope that we can optimise daylight saving time!
@@ShadowLynx777 convert to permanently? Our noon wouldnt have the sun directly overhead but that *doesn't happen* more times than it does over every period of time.
36 years old, literally never had an issue with DST. Not once. Know when I do? When I make poor choices. Staying up later. Making plans around it. We do more damage to our own rythm than DST ever could.
@@3_up_moon Actual research and studies show it causes more harm than any fraction of a percent of "benefits" it produces. Like most garbage in our country, it's lobbyists doing things that benefit themselves and hurt most Americans. I'm thinking of my own health along with most of the country's as well.
When my dad was a boy (1920s) he and his older brother were out for a drive in the country. As the car (Ford Model T) had no clock and it was getting late in the day, they stopped at a farm house to ask the farmer what time it was. The farmer said, "I don't have a clock. Never had one." When my dad asked him why he said, "I get up at sunrise, go to bed at sunset, and any da** fool ought to know when to eat." Maybe we should be like that farmer.
As a software developer, one of the hardest things (at least to me) is dealing with timezones and doing timezone math, especially with customers all around the world.
there is a widget called "Hour" that I use from the app store where you can add any place anywhere and it will show you immediately in the drop down menu what time it is there!
You’re barking up the wrong tree here! We are talking about daylight savings time not time zones! You cannot do away with time zones! That is equivalent to being a flat earth believer!
-Hey boss, can we shift our schedule an hour back so we go home an hour earlier in the day? -Fine, seems reasonable. From now we start work at 8 instead of at 9 -No, no! I am used to comming to work at 9. I could never get used to comming to work at 8! -Hmm... I got it! We will simply shift our clocks an hour back. This way you still leave an hour early AND you also come to work at the time you are used to. -That's perfect, boss! -Just make sure you come the same time as usuall, which is an hour before of what it is the usual... or is it one hour after the... the... -Wait, you mean one hour is earlier in the time change, right? -What?? -What??
This problem is from adjusting for a gradual change with 2 big jumps, if it were smaller jumps spread out and automatic clocks you wouldn't notice any drawbacks.
It really doesn't make any sense when you consider that we can just decide what time to do things. I mean, your boss could just decide to open earlier during summer, for example.
I worked for a company back in the '90's that did just that, we started an hour earlier from mid-May to early September. We worked in network construction in the communications and electricity industries.
As someone who moved from a country with no DST (South Africa) to one with DST (Germany). I can promise you everyone is beter off without DST, its the most rediculace thing I have ever heard of and experienced. Every single time the time time shifts I feel so lost and confused and I do not get the logic for it.
I am glad I lived in Arizona my whole life, never had to deal with Daylight Saving Time... except of course when I trying to figure our if the east coast in 2 or 3 hours ahead, or am I in the same time as California or Colorado. Man I wish you other states would make up your mind
i live in saskatchewan. we've been on permanent dst my whole life and i also am very glad. everyone i've ever known who lived here and moved away gets screwed up for a week every time the clocks change
Just split the difference halfway between standard time and daylight time and leave it. You get the best of both worlds. At middle latitudes, you get daylight between 5am or 5:30am and about 8pm in June. Also, in winter, you get sunrise at 7:45am and sunset at 5:15 or 5:30pm.
The MEASUREMENT of time and the hours we assign to it is a construct. Time itself is a very real thing. Otherwise nothing would happen. Ever. Because it would all be standing still. Because it couldn't move because there would literally be no time for events to happen in. The universe would be a save state left with no means of progressing.
I love living in a place that is both metricly civilized and ignores DST completely. No changing the clocks, missing appointments or possibly being late (or worse, early) to work twice a year.
He’s lying! I tried this “going outside” thing a few hours ago, and it was extremely unpleasant! Cold and very windy! I most sincerely recommend nobody else try it.
Thanks for being there for me when I needed you the most, Peter. I opened the curtains and everything seemed okay. I was just about to open the door, but you saved me, friend. I won't forget this.
Have us "spring forward" at 4pm on Friday, so everyone gets off work an hour early. "Fall back" at 5am on Monday, so everyone gets to sleep in an extra hour. ,...but if you don't like switching, then just become a pilot, we use Zulu time :-)
@@o11o01 lol! You really only need two things to fly. Airspeed and money, and airspeed is optional. The osprey is funded with tax payer dollars. In other words, they have plenty of money.
So true. Most of the people in my state are still pissed about the governor forced us into it 10 years ago because "The other states were making fun of us for not following it". A load of BS because they were calling us lucky bastards because we didn't have to do it.
Dude, Daylight Savings has been even worse with Covid. Most of us are being forced to work from home, which means we don't go anywhere during the day. I'm a Data Analyst and have to work long hours quite often. I end up going the entire day w/o experiencing actual sunlight thanks to Daylight Savings, cuz the effing sun sets at 5:30 in the fall/winter.
@@spidaxtreme Every year, I literally count down the days until Daylight Saving Time starts again. 4pm sunset in our rainy and cloudy Vancouver is absolutely brutal
For me in Canada, I think the time change is ridiculous too. In the summer (during daylight saving time) the sun comes up at 3:30am and goes down around midnight. If it was left at standard time, it would go up at 2:30am and go down at 11:00pm... so we get an extra hour from 11pm to midnight.... we don't need an extra hour there. We NEED the extra hour in the winter when the sun starts to set at 3pm. Kids get out of school while the sun is setting and get no outdoor time after school. If daylight saving time continued in the winter, they would get an hour to enjoy the snow after school, who cares if the sun doesn't come up till 9am. I'd rather have some time to do something in the afternoon in winter since I have to get up while it's dark out either way.
@@locomotivetrainstation6053 I am CONVINCED they got it backwards, and no one said anything. DST *should* have been in the winter, but the fxcked up somehow and put it in the summer. All of the above is bullshxt. It's CLEARLY backwards.
Turns out I'm in the best place among you. We have daylight saving time and I think that here it is the absolute perfect place for it because for whatever reason, when the sunset and sunrises are moving, it's nearly always the sunrise which is earlier in comparison standard equinox daylenght (6:00-18:00 or 6am-6pm). the latest sunrise is 1 hour 58 minutes later than equinox sunrise but the earliest sunset is 2 hours 8 minutes before the equinox sunset, so the sunrise has smaller difference than the sunset. In the other side of the spectrum, the earliest sunrise is 2 hours 16 minutes earlier than equinox sunrise and the latest sunset is 2 hours 14 minutes later than the equinox sunset. In winter that is pretty much perfect, well often we are going home from school after sunset but the most students go to school after the sunrise has begun, so not in complete darkness. But in summer we don't need the sun to rise at 3:44am and so have the sunset pretty early at 20:14 or 8:14pm so the daylight saving time plays perfect role here, making the sunrise just around the time most workers get up to work but the sunset being all the way at 21:14 or 9:14pm which is quite amazing. I can't really imagine having sun until midnight, even though I pretty much never fall into sleep earlier than midnight.
Sadly, Canada is a high altitude and naturally, winter light will always be shorter This is just another example of us trying to make nature do what we want which wont work Dont like being near the poles for the extensive light or lackthereof? Move below latitude 60°
The idea of "having more daylight" by changing the clock is like thinking you could cut a foot off one end of a blanket, sew it to the other end and have a longer blanket.
It probably made some sort of sense back when artificial lighting was harder and much more energy consuming (case in point, my entry corridor is now more brightly lit that our dining room was 20 years ago). For instance, in Moscow your midsummer night is very short; 10 p.m. to 3 a.m. or less. It is 8 p.m. to 5 a.m. in August. So if you wake up at 10 a.m. you are really sleeping behind thick curtains for over 5 hours while the sun happily shines outside. Then you come back from work and turn the light on because it's growing dark outside. It must have been even more pronounced for industrial buildings where large areas would have required lighting by the end of the working hours. The advantage should have been more pronounced a bit to the south, not in London or Moscow. Some place where a typical 9 to 5 work day would indeed end in the dark in spring. But nor so far south that the difference between summer and winter days is minimal. :)
I have an even better idea, a second daylight saving time. Memorial day set clock ahead another hour and fall back Labor day weekend. Even more sunlight during the summer. Where I live it gets light in the summer around 4:00 am. What a waste.
@@theman4884 *I've actually thought about that before. Start the second Daylight Time one weekend prior to Memorial Day weekend and end it the weekend after Labor Day weekend. Four total time changes every year though? People would lose their minds. I still believe we should keep Daylight Time all year long, and then maybe just add a 30 minute jump from just before Memorial Day weekend to just after Labor Day weekend.*
Marcos Rodrigues Carvalho ok you saying summer was from December to March confused me for like five minutes until I remembered that the earth is an orb and seasons can be different in different parts of the earth
We should always wake up at dawn. Petition to keep permanent standard time and set work hours to always start an hour after the latest dawn of the year (8am according to the graphs in the video). That way our circadian rhythms aren't interrupted because that's what we'd do naturally, and our free time just slowly shifts between mornings and evenings depending on the time of year.
@@Skip6235 Why? The daylight time is same regardless of the DST, why would you want to disconnect the clock from the position of the sun by extra hour?
As an Arizonan, this video was wild. We literally have no daylight savings time, we don’t adjust or account for anything across the year; time just be existing lmao. This stuff always interested me that people actually go through this 🤣
I stay on dst all year round because it doesn't do anything for me. I get up mostly in dark most in dark and watch the sun come out and watch tv because most of the shows comes around 4:00 am anyway that I watch. Sometimes I go to bed at 11:00 pm and get up at 3:00 am. Now this is standard time , not dst.
They think they are getting extra hour of daylight hour by getting up an hour early. With me I stay on standard time no matter because it's just an hour's difference in hour's sleep. They are not missing out on anything. I'm on central and the sun rises around 5:30 am. They complain they are losing an hour's in the spring and all they need to do is go bed the same time all year round, and, not complain about it. That is why invented these recorders to watch a favorite show to what later.😁. You don't have to lose an hour's sleep. In the winter everything comes on an hour later. I don't see how that effects ratings of a show as they claim. We we need standard time all year round.
Best day of the year is the day DST goes into effect. My depression spikes in February. The change in the clocks truly, literally, represents the end of darkness for me.
Just choose to wake up earlier and go to bed earlier. It's the same thing. Literally! Just get an alarm clock and never change the time on it. You'll always wake up at the same time everyday and you'll have a one hour head start on everybody all winter long.
we need a nationwide vote on this honestly. I had my alarm set to 2:20am and forgot that that whole hour doesn't exist when time springs forward. good thing I woke up "early" (1:30-ish) and remember to move the clock forward.
"we need a nationwide vote on this honestly" Absolutely not! We need a benevolent dictator to say spring forward and leave it. Then an order to bring back Futurama and all who oppose aren't allowed to watch.
I've always thought it was SO WEIRD to pretend the time of day is different, instead of just saying: OK, everything starts one hour earlier in the summer. But then I think the same about voluntarily aiming for a certain currency inflation, seemingly so people can pretend that their salaries get raised every year. (Or, conversely, so bosses who don't give raises can pretend that they're NOT lowering the salaries every year.)
Great video. I wasn’t going to watch it but the other selections were boring. I had long believed that DST was for farmers. I’m 61 years old, I love learning new things-especially whenever I had preconceived ideas.
3:24 "Alledgedly better eyesight?" Don't know if that is what he meant but I guess you can see better when there's less coal smoke (residue/stuff/whatever) in the air.
I seem to recall studies that show that children develop better eyesight with more outdoor time and more sun exposure, so maybe that's what's being referred to here.
getting up with the sun is really helpful. it's just hard to have a good system where everyone is happy. also, I love the "it's time to stop" at about 10:20 Keep it up!
Getting up with the sun works great when you have to get up at 5:00 and the sun doesn't come up for another 3 hours. I think they need to make permanent standard time so in summer all the nine to five people can have three hours of daylight while they're trying to sleep.
@@michaelszczys8316 Having 3 hours of daylight while trying to sleep is actually not a benefit at all. The sun would come up before 5 am which would really disturb sleep schedules. We should just keep the clock changes. They're really useful and we just don't think about that part.
@@laiyemoboys9255 from what I understand the main reason for time changing is so to help little kids going to school to be out in daylight instead of the dark. If they keep the summer hours in the winter then it might still be dark for the smaller kids going to school. Expect child abductions to increase. At least the adults won't be troubled and stressed with time changes.
Agent Lurmey But it’s only 13 hours though. 13:00 is 13 hours and 0 minutes into the day while 1300:00 is 13 hundred (1,300) hours and 0 minutes into the day, but there are only 24 hours in a day, so that’s technically 4:00 and 54 days later, and obviously Ik that you can extend it by saying 24:00, 25:00, 26:00, etc. if you’re still awake past 24:00 midnight, but it obviously wouldn’t go on for another 53 days after 28:00 because you would end up having to sleep eventually, and even if you fall asleep on accident and you don’t consider it the next day yet, & then you brush your teeth and can’t fall back asleep on purpose, you would just eventually end up sleeping and considering it the next day or possibly even the day after that depending on how late you fall asleep and wake up, the situation, your own thoughts on the situation, and if you have to wake up and go somewhere. Sat/03/20/2021 at 14:29 EDT
The part of DST that people hate and whine about is the period of adapting their body clocks to the new time. Your "solution" doesn't remove that problem. Nobody would GAF about DST if they didn't have to spend several days adjusting their circadian rhythms to the new time.
Because work & school still starts at the same time. Waking up earlier while everything is still closed and everyone else is still sleeping, and knowing you need to stay put because you need to be some where in a few hours limits the amount of things you can do with the so called extra daylight.
@@dariel312 - oh ffs! If people *WANTED* to be up an hour earlier _they would *ALREADY* be getting up an hour earlier!÷ _MOST_ people set their alarms for when they *HAVE* to be up and your "solution" apparently just wants to pretend that people aren't human... 🙄
@@brtle I don't know what your point is because I'm not proposing any solution. I'm arguing against waking up earlier as a solution to making the most affective use of daylight
That's dumb though because where I live in June the sun would be up at 4am and set at 830pm, which is an extremely rise. If it's at PST it's 5am which is early but reasonable and sets at 930pm which is nice because you can spend long days outside out and about. In the winter on standard it sets at 4pm which is way to early, a set at 5pm would give more time to enjoy life after work
@@adanactnomew7085 correct Standard time permanently makes super early sunrise especially in the summer while everyone is still sleeping at that time Permanent DST makes super late sunrise especially in the winter It’s harder to wake up in the dark which is not good for you It’s better to change the clocks
@@tahmidabdin4625 Your argument about waking up in the dark being a bad thing is a weak considering in the winter where I live the sun doesn't rise until 8:05am, which is when everyone with a job is already awoken. People wake up to the dark already. What's better is more evening sun people finish work or are already done.
@@tahmidabdin4625 Most of the northern states already wake up in the dark. That statement about it being bad for you is pointless because if so, a majority of the country already does it anyway, just give them an extra hour of sunlight afterwork. That would be the healthier move.
I'm an Italian doctor whose Med School's final essay was about the effects on EU population during DST transitions. True, there in an increased amount of accidents during DST shift that isn't countered by a proportionally decreased number at the return of ST in fall, but these changes are mostly caused by sleep deprivation, which is a self-healing factor. The BIG problem is that, as the video explained and immediately decided to ignore for some reason, there is no way for our bodies to align to DST instead of the Sun, thus the relatively mild but ever persistent effects of circadian misalignment. These can range from sleep and nutrition disorders to full on heart attacks in people whose condition is already compromised, such as shift-workers or the chronically ill. From this perspective even accounting the risks associated with the time-changes, these are still a better option to permanent DST because at least it means that our bodies can have some months to return in a state of circadian alignment: otherwise the already considerable damage from circadian misalignment would incur in a cumulative effect, just as a person asked to work overtime everyday without pause in which the stress just keeps on building and the burnout comes sooner. All this even without considering the ethical dilemma and the immense healthcare costs associated with treating those preventable accidents (while instead following consumer lobbies, which are known for not caring about quality of life, but this is just a personal opinion). Lastly I wanted to add that I'm not unaware on the great psychological benefit of having more light after work but it should be known that it is paid by either time-change problems or the permanent DST ones.
Yeah, I wake up at 9am and go to bed a 1 am... falling asleep is very challenging for me if it is not the time that I am used to. There is absolutely nothing good about standard time for me. I would say who ever came up with standard time has gotten it wrong. In the US most people seem to hate it amd would rather just deal with one time or another. Maybe I would be in favor of changing the clocks if I know what time would be like always on dst. I guess what I'm trying to say is if california amd Florida agree on something, then that is probably correct for the US.
@@ryans3795It's been suggested to just change clock by half an hour instead, at whatever the next change is, and end it there. Everyone gets a little.of what they want and we don't need to change the clocks anymore
Best fix is to go perm standard time and let the businesses that want to open an hour earlier in the summer institute summer hours. Many of them already have summer hours because DST made them close an hour earlier in the summer.
The issue with standard time is if work/school starts at 8:30 and finishes at 15:30, some students and workers would finish the regular school/work day less than 30 minutes before sunset. If standard time becomes permanent, school and work should start and finish earlier, and slightly later if DST is permanent.
I don't care if it is permanent Daylight time or permanent Standard time, we should just pick one! Over time, our social calendars will adjust, and each area can do so at the time of their own choosing. I am already hearing talk that if the Sunshine Protection Act passes to make Daylight time permanent, some schools on the western side of time zones (with the latest sunrises) may adjust their school hours to start and end later, so that kids don't have to wait for the bus in the dark as much. That would be the start of adjusting the social calendars.
@@jaegrant6441 That could work too. Many would complain about the half-hour differences between us and other international time zones, but there are already a few time zones that are off of Greenwich time by half-hours (the closet to us is Newfoundland, which is half an hour ahead of Eastern Time). There would be complaints for a while, but people would adjust. It would be a lot better than repeatedly having to readjust to standard and daylight times.
@@BrianRetro Exactly. The sun doesn't care what we call each hour of the day, we either will or will not have daylight in that hour regardless. We can plan hours for school around when we have daylight, regardless of what those hours are called. All we need is a consistent name for each hour, not the current system that changes the names for each hour twice a year.
And more children are injured with the extended darkness in the morning. One unexpected benefit to moving from California to Arizona was the fact that AZ doesn't have the asinine DST!
Well it's a government we elect. (Shrug) But he means on a social level that humans decided to make it this way, rather than just letting things be. Just like gender roles and certain specific, restrictive social norms. Man-made constructions that take away freedom and your sense of self, "because that's just the way it is." It doesn't HAVE to be. People decided it would be. And people can undecide it. (P.S. - OMG Moltar! That old Space Ghost villain turned talkshow host assistant turned badass Toonami broadcaster (before TOM). Man, nostalgia hitting me in the face! Good taste in character there dude! :D)
I actually once elected not to switch to DST, constantly complaining why all my appointments suddenly were moved an hour earlier (note that even if I did change my clock, they were still moved an hour earlier, I just would not have noticed as much).
I remember when the US enacted year-round Daylight Saving Time in January 1974 because of the oil crisis. It was awful... and stupid. People hated it and Congress repealed it eventually in 1975.
I hate changing twice per year regardless of direction. It screws me up for 2 weeks each change and I resent it always. I wish it would go away. Thanks for making our voice heard.
@@mirradric that's a shame, but at least they have the same timezone year round! Here in Greece, what timezone we're in depends on when you asked. That's ridiculous!
I usually agree with your videos, but looking at this from an astronomic viewpoint, DST just makes absolutely no sense. Imo it would be better if, instead of switching to DST to line up with social time, we were to just adjust our social time. What I mean by that is that the standard workday wouldn't be 9-5 but 8-4. The effect is the same, but time stays astronomically correct.
I am a software developer and I have to say: Daylight saving's time is the _worst_. It's extremely difficult to compare times when the differences are arbitrary and randomly changing This is (part of) why we use things like Unix Time en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time and UTC en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
@@Gwydda Countries have. Until they don't. Which is happens a lot when politics get involved. Because apparently changing DST stance is a quick way to boost an approval level. At least in Russia the period between 2010 and 2014 was really weird with all the time changing laws breaking something every year. (And that's only on federal level, I dunno about all the regional bullshit). At least twice during that period Windows Time Service was unable to keep up with our chaotic politics and we were forced to manually switch time zones for a couple of weeks/months until they update their time synchronisation services to a new legal reality.
Try this: save a file, note the timestamp, wait for the time change, then look at the time the file was saved. What? Off by an hour? Made unreliable by the time change...... Try using that as evidence in a court. (Where were you at 5PM on the night of....)
@@stan.rarick8556 Won't work on *nix. The actual saved time is UTC, which gets converted on the fly to what you see - and that conversion knows about DST.
They do, and changing the clocks is how they do it. How would you do it? Mind you, I think DST is silly, but people won't do something coordinated like that without a mandate.
@@COPKALA change school hours, in nz we have 4 terms a year, we could have terms 1 & 4 start at say, 10am, and terms 2&3 start at 9am. same as workers, easy fix.
That's going to basically have all the same psychological pitfalls of changing the clocks twice a year but add more confusion. Just make noon the time the sun reaches its highest point in the sky each day... have schedules remain based statically on times, and design schedules moving forward to be the most beneficial averaged throughout the entire year.
Permanent standard time would mess up the day and night cycle just as if it were permanent daylight saving time. Overtime instead of later sunrises and sunsets, you would have early sunrises and sunsets. I think it should stay as it is. Spring up in the summer, and fall back in the winter. The only difference that should be changed is that when it's time to spring up in the summer, it should spring up two hours instead of one, and fall back one hour in the winter. As least you would still have that extra hour of daylight in the winter.
@@josephclegg3562, nope. The science says staying with either time permanently would cause much less disruption to our circadian rythym. This would result in fewer heart attacks and accidents. But, it's cool to be anti science these days. Go ahead and believe lies.
@@nixl3518 It would help most in winter with the few light hours shifted more to the evening when you are awake and active. Where I live in Northern Ireland it would mean people who don’t see their homes in daylight in midwinter would with an hours shift.
@@davidwright7193 You are among many who are stuck on this one side of the day concept, ignoring the other and I would love to also benefit from an extra hour in the afternoon myself. I agree that anywhere in the UK and latitudes further north, there is little daylight if any in winter, specially if you realize that clouds that are heavier and more frequent in winter, take considerable light away from the planet's surface as well. I've lived in your country for several years and have experienced the darkness of winter and I hated it. So I left!! The problem is that because we just cannot ADD more daylight to the evening, u'd have to take it from the morning. You might not be interested in morning light but many of your compatriots are, and children who wake up in the dark would be better off with some light as they go to school. It would be preferable for there to be daylight before lunchtime, so to keep things balanced, the clock is swung back to the definitive hour so that the sun is at its highest at noon. The choices are to either move south, or to alter the axis of the earth's rotation to be more vertical to the plane of rotation about the Sun. Both will result in more daylight in winter. Your choice.
Where I live, on the longest day of the year, the sun rises at 5:17, and sets at 22:06, and on the shortest day it rises at 8:50, and sets at 16:26. So if we stay with DST all year, the sun would rise at 9:50 in December! And if we stick with Standard time, the sun rises at 4:17 in June. Both of those sound kinda sucky. I don't see the big deal about a one hour shift twice a year- I fly many more time zones than that regularly. But I think we should just shorten work/school hours in the winter so we can see the sun occasionally and get more sleep.
As a Canadian in the winter you're getting up before the sunrise anyways. To me it doesn't matter if the sun rises at 9:50 or 8:50 if I have to wake up and drive to work in the pitch black anyways what's the difference? At least I'll see the sun for 30 minutes after work with permanent DST.
Daylight savings used to really mess me up, but nowadays I barely notice when it happens. My sleep schedule is so messed up it hardly makes a difference.
One of the few things I liked about living in Phoenix was no Daylight Saving. Now I'm in a state that uses DST. It takes me about 8 months to adjust to "jumping forward" each year...
As someone who works in the VERY early hours of the morning, I'm personally in favor of keeping Standard Time. I don't exactly complain when the sun sets at 6 if I have to wake up for work at 2am haha
Fast-forward one year... the US government is seriously considering finally ridding us of this nuisance and this year we may not be setting our clocks back in autumn! I choose to believe it's because of your video :)
Agreed! I have "Reverse S.A.D." which is summer depression. Leaving the clocks set to standard time would really help me. Daylight Savings Time interferes with sleep in a very negative way. And those extra fatal car accidents (and even heart attacks) occur in the Spring change, not the Fall.
@@CrisURace I'm not a morning person either, but I don't like getting up in the dark. It makes it much harder for a night owl to get up. And the manupulated sunlight in the evening really screws up sleep for the night. Night owls need it to get dark at the "standard" time. Otherwise it's a recipe for sleep deprivation, insomnia, and finally, summer depression, which I have. A darker evening improves my post-dinner creative time. If it's still bright out, my mind doesn't function normally as it does in winter. It's supposed to be light in the morning and dark in the evening. We should change it back this fall and leave it alone forever!
@@RobinMarkowitzcoolmedia Yep, that's a severe safety hazard when car accidents double to quintuple during daylight saving time. Imagine how many millions of lives would be saved annually worldwide from getting rid of DST.
@@jasonk. no issue. I'm one of those dreaded Brits, up North, and at the moment, we do not have a proper nighttime. The sun dips below the horizon, but you still see the glow easily. Our daylight fluctuates by about ten hours between Winter and Summer. In Winter, it's pitch black when I set out and get home. In Summer, it's properly dark from about 22:30 to 03:30.
Few years ago, we were in night shift while clock needed to change one hour backward.... So, we extended work time for one hour, non payed. Atleast i added one more 15 min. break till end of the shift.
Just split the difference. If standard time: move it forward a half hour. If DST: move it back a half hour. And then just keep it that way. It will be called New Standard Time.
@@laiyemoboys9255 Just because someone comes up with a cockamamie idea doesn’t make it an option. There is no discussion about a half hour change which you correctly say is nonsense. The only discussion is about the one hour shift over the summer, nothing else and that is necessary for our way of life on our planet. There is nothing to fix because we already did it a long time ago and there can be no improvement on what we have already done.
@@nixl3518There is a discussion and it's not a cockamamie idea. The half hour idea is to keep everyone happy. Those who claim to love the daylight saving and those who don't care but want to stop the clock change. The half hour just seems weirs because it's off from what we consider "normal"
1234kalmar . Yep he did, then he said makes DST permanent even though it ignores the fact that our social reasons for DST can be more easily changed than our biological needs that are more aligned with standard time.
I agree, listen to the scientists! Switching twice a year causes a lot of accidents right? Imagine a permanently shifted time where our bodies never fully agree with the Clock!
@@nicholaswilley9001 maybe they prefer to have that hour after work more than before work, and so do I. Before work, I'm busy sleeping and getting ready for work.
@@nicholaswilley9001 I know, but I am awake later hours in the day. I would argue that most people are awake for hours past sunset but not awake earlier than sunrise.
Standard Time works. If it ain't broke, dont fix it. Workplaces can adopt Summer hours. My Summer morning hours belong TO ME, not the company I work for.
0:20 I heavily disagree on the notion that this mess happens _voluntarily._ I have to do it because the entire EU does it, and even though over 60% of EU citizens said in a survey that they'd like to see it abolished, the governing bodies can't decide on when and how to do it, so we'll just continue to set our clocks to a different time twice a year, with all the chaos that brings with it every time.
Hopefully not for long. : ) As mentioned at 10:30: www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20190321IPR32107/parliament-backs-proposal-to-end-switch-between-summer-and-winter-time-in-2021
Time works perfectly in Arizona. No 'daylight saving time' in Arizona. Just plain old 'time'. If you want more sunshine in your day, GET OUT OF BED WHEN THE SUN COMES UP, LAZY BONES! Stop expecting the rest of the world to make the late hours bright just for you.
It would be nice to just keep it one way or the other. Just pick standard or daylight time and stick with it. Doesn't matter to me which one as long as it stays the same all year.
It's observed by government and public institutions (schools, stock market, majors office public transport in most places) if businesses and private people don't use it they don't.
@@fionafiona1146 : But try using Standard Time to determine when you go home from work when Daylight time is in effect... I don't think your boss would like it...
A boss and I was discussing which time would be better to leave time at summer or winter. I told him there is a third option for a permanent time placement. It is that half hour between the two. Instead of setting the clock back an hour in the fall. Set it back a half hour and leave it there.
As an (apparently) direct descendant of the nomadic genome, I like sleeping until 8-10AM and staying awake and working until 2-4AM. Six hours' sleep works great for me. I think it's time for an OK to be Smart video regarding hunter/gatherer v farmer genomes and their connection to sleep habits as well as to identifying as social liberals and conservatives!
I would love to just follow the sun. Get up by it at dawn, and go to sleep when it gets dark. All these clocks are ruining our lives regardless of the hour they are pointing at.
@@hipp0stratus Exactly - People are going into work later these days and that extra hour of daylight at the end of the day is great for safety and outdoor activities.
That would be just as bad as permanent daylight saving time. If that were to happen, overtime it would mess up the day and night cycle. Sunset could be as early as 1pm.
@@josephclegg3562 What is so bad about that? The day is shorter regardless in winter and if you work an off shift like I do (3PM-11PM) all DST does is piss you off with a unnecessary clock change.
@@waynepurcell6058 the kinds of replies we're seeing above shows just why DST is a bad idea and why it's still practiced: ppl actually believe changing the clocks adds an extra hour of sunlight to the day.
It isn't a matter of "singular, not plural." In "Daylight Saving Time," "saving" is the verb in a participle phrase describing the time. In "Daylight Savings Time," "savings" is a singular mass noun.
As someone living in Scandinavia, it actually makes a difference. I get that i'ts annoying and everyone hates it, I do too, but when the differences in time and light is as big as they are here (as in the sundown changing from 2pm to 10pm depending on the season), it's actually kinda helpful to get the amount of sun you need to not get a vitamin D-defincency .
I'm Finnish and I don't understand that argument. DTS doesn't affect the amount of sunlight during the winter, since winter is standard time. In the summer, the sun is up all the time anyway so what's the point? All it does is make it even harder to go to sleep early since the sun is up an hour longer. It's nonsense.
At your latitude, you don't "get" enough vitamin D no matter how much time you spend in the sun. Something about the suns rays not being strong enough going through the atmosphere at a steeper angle. I live at a similar latitude and even outdoor enthusiasts roaming under the midnight sun have vitamin D deficiency. At latitudes where the sunlight sparks the production of vitamin D in your body you only need a few minutes a day anyway, so DST shouldn't make a difference in that. Especially since midday sun is better than morning or afternoon for this reaction.
Nobody gets any more or less sun. That's not changeable. All you do is start and end at a different time .... which is fine, but the way you do it is to lie about what time it is, which is not fine.
Something I think gets overlooked: sunRISE times In a place like Seattle that's farther to the north, the sun rises at around 5 AM during the summer solstice. That's already early enough. Imagine still being on standard time and having the sun rise at 4 AM. That's way too early. Same thing during the winter solstice. The sun already rises at 8 AM. If it was still DST, the sun wouldn't rise until close to 9. The adjusting to DST and back helps the sunrise times to be more reasonable
That's why shift workers invest in this neato keen new fangled invention called blackout curtains - so we have a dark room to sleep in when the sun is shining.
Yes. The idea we already have is so much better. I would hate to have a 4:46 AM sunrise on the summer solstice. 5:46 AM is much more reasonable. And why make the sunset time earlier lol?
It does no such thing. The time the sun rises/sets on any particular day is fixed by the Universe and does not change from year to year. All DST does is LIE about the simple question "what time is it".
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What's up joe
Here in the UK 🇬🇧 it's actually known as BST (British Summer Time) and there was a point during one of the world wars I think WW1 when we used DBST (Double British Summer Time) where we added/took off 2 hours 😲 😂 🤣
It is a pain in the arse though, not that it really affects me since even my watch uses radio controlled time so automatically switches for me 🤣
(and it's solar powered too so ⚖ 🤣)
brazil has daylight saving time
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Could you link to the metric video you referenced?
In Brazil we actually had daylight saving time until 2019, until the government realized it didn’t save energy, so it ended haha
We had it for some time long ago before that, and gave up until it restarted some years ago and was given up again. It will probably return one day or the other.
Brazil is near the equator so other countries get benefits for DST which Brazil does not.
That makes me wonder if when you had DST if you did in the Northern Hemisphere summer March to November or Southern Hemisphere summer October to April.
@@marlinpierce5262 it was during summer from October until March/April, cause the summer days are slightly longer (but the difference is not so intense as it is in northern countries)
@@marlinpierce5262 Summertime used to be from October until February.
Solution: give up being a part of society and sleep when you're tired and eat when you're hungry.
Madness! Off to the loony bin with you!
That's worked for me.
Other people's clocks or schedules have nothing to do with me.
2020 made me realize how well I sleep on my own timetable!
Makes sense
i tried doing that once, would absolutely not recommend
you guys actually put papa franku in there, never thought i'd see the legend on your channel
I miss papa franku so much...
I would love if joji bring it back...
@@DarkusObscurius I mean, Joji kinda put him and pink guy away cuz they were supposedly damaging to his voice and also exhaustive, so I guess it's kind of a good thing?
:O
That's literally how I feel when they added a Halo clip in there picking up a health kit lmao
The filth lives on in internet gen y/z inside humour. 👨💻
I lived in a place where day light saving time is applied and a place where it wasn’t. And the place where it wasn’t applied made things easier. Even though they didn’t change the time on the clock schools and work started 1/2 an hour later at winter since the sun rises later. But other than that everything else’s was the same. This was more in line with the body’s natural rhythm.
But changing the clocks is something you barely notice now anyway. You wake up on Sunday morning and notice it's an hour later than usual. Your phone adjusts automatically so there's not even anything you have to do yourself.
And the benefits are not having the sun rise when 90% of people are still asleep for half of the year
@@vincevdarend3415 "You wake up on Sunday morning and notice it's an hour later than usual." Because people definitively don't work on sunday... oh wait, lot of people do.
"And the benefits are not having the sun rise when 90% of people are still asleep for half of the year" But curtains are a thing....
@@Boby9333 curtains work both ways, you can use them in the morning but also in the evening so that argument doesn't stand.
And people working early on Sunday are definitely a majority so I don't see how a minor inconvenience for them on 1 day of the year should hurt the rest of us for half of the year.
Is it really that hard to change a clock? Half of them change automatically on their own now.
@@vincevdarend3415 it's not changing the clocks that's the problem, it's the way that time chance affects everyone.
Everyone is tired for the first couple days of DST bc they lose an hour of sleep and it throws off their sleep schedule. Then even though we gain an hour of sleep for one night, everyone is really tired when the clocks fall back bc it gets dark earlier and once again it messes with everyone's sleep schedule
Me who lives near the equator: laughs in standard time
No one suggested that it's good in the tropical regions . . . well, if anyone did, I didn't.
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for me in Canada, I think the time change is ridiculous too. In the summer (during daylight saving time) the sun comes up at 3:30am and goes down around midnight. If it was left at standard time, it would go up at 2:30am and go down at 11:00pm... so we get an extra hour from 11pm to midnight.... we don't need an extra hour there. We NEED the extra hour in the winter when the sun starts to set at 3pm. Kids get out of school while the sun is setting and get no outdoor time after school. If daylight saving time continued in the winter, they would get an hour to enjoy the snow after school, who cares if the sun doesn't come up till 9am. I'd rather have some time to do something in the afternoon in winter since I have to get up while it's dark out either way.
Lucky
@@commenter5901 You're the slight minority of Canada that has sunlight until midnight, you must be very far north. You make it sound like that's what it's like in all of Canada and it's not. Most of Canada has darkness by 10pm in the middle of summer with daylight savings time on.
"France being France did both"
That actually was a pretty British move
lol
Well said
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french and brits were like the biggest enemies during a period of time
Being a human biologist and researcher I think that studies concerning the circadian clocks in the human body are amazing. It has been shown that daylight saving time contributes towards seasonal affective disorder (or SAD, a fitting name) which is a form of depression normally occuring during winter. Here, serotonine levels are decreased by a protein which is blocked by sunlight. Besides links to forms of depression, disruptions of the circadian clock have been associated with type 2 diabetes, hypertension and cardiovascular diseases. (I'm planning to make a video about that myself). I really hope that we can optimise daylight saving time!
I hope by "optimize" you mean "get rid of"
@@ShadowLynx777 convert to permanently? Our noon wouldnt have the sun directly overhead but that *doesn't happen* more times than it does over every period of time.
36 years old, literally never had an issue with DST. Not once.
Know when I do? When I make poor choices. Staying up later. Making plans around it. We do more damage to our own rythm than DST ever could.
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Actual research and studies show it causes more harm than any fraction of a percent of "benefits" it produces. Like most garbage in our country, it's lobbyists doing things that benefit themselves and hurt most Americans. I'm thinking of my own health along with most of the country's as well.
@@ShadowLynx777 can you explain to me what you were replying to? I'm not sure why you clicked my name.
When my dad was a boy (1920s) he and his older brother were out for a drive in the country. As the car (Ford Model T) had no clock and it was getting late in the day, they stopped at a farm house to ask the farmer what time it was. The farmer said, "I don't have a clock. Never had one." When my dad asked him why he said, "I get up at sunrise, go to bed at sunset, and any da** fool ought to know when to eat." Maybe we should be like that farmer.
That farmer spoke pure wisdom right there.
Yeah when you’re a farmer back then, ignoring clocks and time was an option. These days not so much.
Much easier to say when you don't have to coordinate lots of things with lots of people.
So all that “early to bed/early to rise” was a bunch of bs. Thanks Franklin.
Afternoon is early to rise now?
Then what have I been doing waking up alongside the sunrise this whole time!?
Early to bed and early to rise makes a man realize that DST is BS
Just because he didn't do it doesn't mean it's not good advice! And Franklin may wake at noon, but Poor Richard wakes at dawn!
Also Ben Franklin "Do as I say, not as I do"
and
"Rules for thee but not for me".
He was a prankster
"Just to annoy everyone"
That's the most accurate description, lol
Normal people: Switching an hour twice a year is horrible!
Shift workers: Try switching 12 hours once or twice a week!
Brad Bourgeois I’ve been there and it’s so bad for your health
Blech. Why do businesses do that to people?
Exactly! It's one of the useless ideas of the western world, and the fact that we implemented it.. makes it idiotic.
Yes it screws up my paychecks 🤬
Did shift work for a year and hated every second of it. Offered to work full time at graveyard shift and the bosses wouldn’t let me?!?
As a software developer, one of the hardest things (at least to me) is dealing with timezones and doing timezone math, especially with customers all around the world.
Isn't there an app???
Use a world clock! Built in on at least the IOS.
there is a widget called "Hour" that I use from the app store where you can add any place anywhere and it will show you immediately in the drop down menu what time it is there!
Hey, China does not have time zones.
You’re barking up the wrong tree here! We are talking about daylight savings time not time zones! You cannot do away with time zones! That is equivalent to being a flat earth believer!
-Hey boss, can we shift our schedule an hour back so we go home an hour earlier in the day?
-Fine, seems reasonable. From now we start work at 8 instead of at 9
-No, no! I am used to comming to work at 9. I could never get used to comming to work at 8!
-Hmm... I got it! We will simply shift our clocks an hour back. This way you still leave an hour early AND you also come to work at the time you are used to.
-That's perfect, boss!
-Just make sure you come the same time as usuall, which is an hour before of what it is the usual... or is it one hour after the... the...
-Wait, you mean one hour is earlier in the time change, right?
-What??
-What??
At this point I don't even care which one - just pick one at leave it there! Quit screwing with my sleep!
UTC everywhere would be the best and simplest solution.
This problem is from adjusting for a gradual change with 2 big jumps, if it were smaller jumps spread out and automatic clocks you wouldn't notice any drawbacks.
@@MrNateSPF I very definitely can notice 15 minutes of lost sleep. My circadian rythym is not exactly 24 hours to begin with.
All China has one time zone.
@@beth8775 What about 1 or 2 minutes?
It really doesn't make any sense when you consider that we can just decide what time to do things. I mean, your boss could just decide to open earlier during summer, for example.
Yes!
Unfortunately, people need communicate and cooperate on larger scale.
So, c'mon over and help me try to sway my entire state legislature to pass later school start times! It's been so much fun these last 12 years!
I worked for a company back in the '90's that did just that, we started an hour earlier from mid-May to early September. We worked in network construction in the communications and electricity industries.
Yeah but customers won't get up earlier. The point of the time switch is to force everyone to get up earlier
As someone who moved from a country with no DST (South Africa) to one with DST (Germany). I can promise you everyone is beter off without DST, its the most rediculace thing I have ever heard of and experienced. Every single time the time time shifts I feel so lost and confused and I do not get the logic for it.
Its funny how he says people *voluntarily* set there clocks forward/back followed shortly by *government mandated*
Yeah, I don't exactly voluntarily change my clocks.
Yeah. I only change my clocks because I can't be late for work.
Lol I thought the same thing. I was like wait... what!!??!? Lmao
Pretty sure that wasn't the intended meaning of "voluntarily" here.
@@Pr0fessorScience so what WOULD be the intended meaning of the word voluntarily that you think he meant?...... I'll wait.
I just avoid the problem by living in darkness, lit only by a computer screen 24/7.
You must know some awesome porn sites then
@@michaelmartinez5217 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA wut lol
I am glad I lived in Arizona my whole life, never had to deal with Daylight Saving Time... except of course when I trying to figure our if the east coast in 2 or 3 hours ahead, or am I in the same time as California or Colorado. Man I wish you other states would make up your mind
i live in saskatchewan. we've been on permanent dst my whole life and i also am very glad. everyone i've ever known who lived here and moved away gets screwed up for a week every time the clocks change
I want to move to AZ so bad lol
It's not really a problem
But isn't there some cities in Arizona that observe daylight saving time tho?
@@josephclegg3562 Yeah there are some Native American reservations in Arizona that follow Daylight Saving time
Just split the difference halfway between standard time and daylight time and leave it. You get the best of both worlds. At middle latitudes, you get daylight between 5am or 5:30am and about 8pm in June. Also, in winter, you get sunrise at 7:45am and sunset at 5:15 or 5:30pm.
Awesome Filthy Frank reference in there
DANK MEMES ONLY
Scrolled down to say literally this. Thank you.
@@besmart don't let your memes be dreams!
@@hughjass545 of course someone named hugh jass would like filthy Frank. 😂😂😂😂
fisqual 😕 wish he’d come back.
Instead of springing forward, why not just fall back 25 hours and give everyone a day off to adjust? Time is a man made construct anyways.
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The seasons would eventually switch around and confuse everyone lol
Wait we could move 25hours forward later? You may be onto something here...
I think it would be falling back 23 hours idk I don’t really want to think about too much...
The MEASUREMENT of time and the hours we assign to it is a construct. Time itself is a very real thing. Otherwise nothing would happen. Ever. Because it would all be standing still. Because it couldn't move because there would literally be no time for events to happen in. The universe would be a save state left with no means of progressing.
So I have to fiddle with my clocks every year cause George Hudson had a bug fetish??
It has 69 likes..i don't want to ruin it but know that i like your comment. 😊
as a New Zealander, I sincerely apologise.
That reminds me of a certain cripple on a horse
yeah, it's not like he could have just changed his work hours, he had to change the time for half the world instead.
Precisely
I love living in a place that is both metricly civilized and ignores DST completely. No changing the clocks, missing appointments or possibly being late (or worse, early) to work twice a year.
Or uses it year round?
Finally people wised up
He’s lying! I tried this “going outside” thing a few hours ago, and it was extremely unpleasant! Cold and very windy! I most sincerely recommend nobody else try it.
Peter Knutsen I won’t go outside. I heard there’s things like nature and weather and people and germs out there. None of that sounds appealing.
That's odd. Where I am, it is sunny and there are nice people with candy and vans!
I agree.
Thanks for being there for me when I needed you the most, Peter. I opened the curtains and everything seemed okay. I was just about to open the door, but you saved me, friend. I won't forget this.
its so shitty out there that even the government is advising against it now
Have us "spring forward" at 4pm on Friday, so everyone gets off work an hour early. "Fall back" at 5am on Monday, so everyone gets to sleep in an extra hour.
,...but if you don't like switching, then just become a pilot, we use Zulu time :-)
The only problem is that helicopters don't fly. They're just so ugly the earth repels them.
- a fixed wing pilot 😉
@@pilotandy_com So how does the osprey fly?
@@o11o01 lol! You really only need two things to fly. Airspeed and money, and airspeed is optional. The osprey is funded with tax payer dollars. In other words, they have plenty of money.
How about a 5 day weekend, and a 2 day work week? That's the thing.
Except I work nights...
"voluntarily" turn their lives upside down
😂😂😂
No one does it voluntarily, we just don't have a choice or else we're the one who's all wrong
So true. Most of the people in my state are still pissed about the governor forced us into it 10 years ago because "The other states were making fun of us for not following it".
A load of BS because they were calling us lucky bastards because we didn't have to do it.
Voluntarily in the collective sense, not per individual.
Dude, Daylight Savings has been even worse with Covid. Most of us are being forced to work from home, which means we don't go anywhere during the day. I'm a Data Analyst and have to work long hours quite often. I end up going the entire day w/o experiencing actual sunlight thanks to Daylight Savings, cuz the effing sun sets at 5:30 in the fall/winter.
@@nahor88 5:30? *Laughs in Vancouver*
In the winter the sun sets at 4pm here.
@@spidaxtreme Every year, I literally count down the days until Daylight Saving Time starts again. 4pm sunset in our rainy and cloudy Vancouver is absolutely brutal
Double daylight saving in winter! I can do my office/home job in the dark, but I want to enjoy light in the evening even in Winter.
For me in Canada, I think the time change is ridiculous too. In the summer (during daylight saving time) the sun comes up at 3:30am and goes down around midnight. If it was left at standard time, it would go up at 2:30am and go down at 11:00pm... so we get an extra hour from 11pm to midnight.... we don't need an extra hour there. We NEED the extra hour in the winter when the sun starts to set at 3pm. Kids get out of school while the sun is setting and get no outdoor time after school. If daylight saving time continued in the winter, they would get an hour to enjoy the snow after school, who cares if the sun doesn't come up till 9am. I'd rather have some time to do something in the afternoon in winter since I have to get up while it's dark out either way.
For me it goes at 9AM even in ST
@@locomotivetrainstation6053 I am CONVINCED they got it backwards, and no one said anything. DST *should* have been in the winter, but the fxcked up somehow and put it in the summer. All of the above is bullshxt. It's CLEARLY backwards.
Turns out I'm in the best place among you. We have daylight saving time and I think that here it is the absolute perfect place for it because for whatever reason, when the sunset and sunrises are moving, it's nearly always the sunrise which is earlier in comparison standard equinox daylenght (6:00-18:00 or 6am-6pm). the latest sunrise is 1 hour 58 minutes later than equinox sunrise but the earliest sunset is 2 hours 8 minutes before the equinox sunset, so the sunrise has smaller difference than the sunset. In the other side of the spectrum, the earliest sunrise is 2 hours 16 minutes earlier than equinox sunrise and the latest sunset is 2 hours 14 minutes later than the equinox sunset. In winter that is pretty much perfect, well often we are going home from school after sunset but the most students go to school after the sunrise has begun, so not in complete darkness. But in summer we don't need the sun to rise at 3:44am and so have the sunset pretty early at 20:14 or 8:14pm so the daylight saving time plays perfect role here, making the sunrise just around the time most workers get up to work but the sunset being all the way at 21:14 or 9:14pm which is quite amazing. I can't really imagine having sun until midnight, even though I pretty much never fall into sleep earlier than midnight.
that sounds horrible you should move
Sadly, Canada is a high altitude and naturally, winter light will always be shorter
This is just another example of us trying to make nature do what we want which wont work
Dont like being near the poles for the extensive light or lackthereof? Move below latitude 60°
10:21 I know this is a heavily used meme but it feels strange to see filthy frank on such a pure channel
Who is filty frank?
@@thethirdjegs A God, someone we must protect at all costs
@@SandeepSinghMango a god needs no protection.
Just kidding.
We all hail you filty frank!
Ey b0ss
Lake Cresva National Park 10:25 hes funny af
The idea of "having more daylight" by changing the clock is like thinking you could cut a foot off one end of a blanket, sew it to the other end and have a longer blanket.
jjohnston94 I was looking for this exact comment lmaooo
It probably made some sort of sense back when artificial lighting was harder and much more energy consuming (case in point, my entry corridor is now more brightly lit that our dining room was 20 years ago).
For instance, in Moscow your midsummer night is very short; 10 p.m. to 3 a.m. or less. It is 8 p.m. to 5 a.m. in August. So if you wake up at 10 a.m. you are really sleeping behind thick curtains for over 5 hours while the sun happily shines outside. Then you come back from work and turn the light on because it's growing dark outside. It must have been even more pronounced for industrial buildings where large areas would have required lighting by the end of the working hours.
The advantage should have been more pronounced a bit to the south, not in London or Moscow. Some place where a typical 9 to 5 work day would indeed end in the dark in spring. But nor so far south that the difference between summer and winter days is minimal. :)
JJ, it never was about "having more daylight." It was always about having more daylight at the period of the day that we would call "later."
@@carsoncarpenter4313: Except that he got it wrong (see my reply just above this one).
@@ChineduOpara: Nope!
*I live near New York City, and we should just stay in Daylight Time all year. I like having daylight late in the evening during the Summer.*
I have an even better idea, a second daylight saving time. Memorial day set clock ahead another hour and fall back Labor day weekend. Even more sunlight during the summer. Where I live it gets light in the summer around 4:00 am. What a waste.
@@theman4884 *I've actually thought about that before. Start the second Daylight Time one weekend prior to Memorial Day weekend and end it the weekend after Labor Day weekend. Four total time changes every year though? People would lose their minds. I still believe we should keep Daylight Time all year long, and then maybe just add a 30 minute jump from just before Memorial Day weekend to just after Labor Day weekend.*
If you want more daylight, how about waking up early?
@@tylere.8436 *That's stupid. No one in a correct state of mind wants daylight at 4:30am.*
@@superbrownbrown And no one wants daylight into 9pm either or have 8am sunrises in the Winter months.
since this last summer (december to march) we no longer have daylight saving time here in Brazil
And the computers went rogue
But Brazil does have a corrupt government so I don’t really like the tradeoff
My concolences. :(
Congrats! I'm so waiting for this stupid 💩to be over. It's driving me crazy two times a year and I constantly have to work with different time zones.
Marcos Rodrigues Carvalho ok you saying summer was from December to March confused me for like five minutes until I remembered that the earth is an orb and seasons can be different in different parts of the earth
I was always confused as to what DST was being born in India.
Thanks for clearing everything up. Great video!
The one thing our founding fathers got right! One time across all of India!
Saransh Gautam I like to poop , I like Indians cause they like to poop everywhere and eat poop
*Petition to abolish Daylight Saving Time*
*Counter Petition to Have Permanent Daylight Saving Time*
Boooo. I don't want to get up and work in the dark for an extra hour in winter. Permanent standard time ftw!!
We should always wake up at dawn. Petition to keep permanent standard time and set work hours to always start an hour after the latest dawn of the year (8am according to the graphs in the video). That way our circadian rhythms aren't interrupted because that's what we'd do naturally, and our free time just slowly shifts between mornings and evenings depending on the time of year.
@@Skip6235 Why? The daylight time is same regardless of the DST, why would you want to disconnect the clock from the position of the sun by extra hour?
*Petition to keep everything as it is*
As an Arizonan, this video was wild. We literally have no daylight savings time, we don’t adjust or account for anything across the year; time just be existing lmao. This stuff always interested me that people actually go through this 🤣
And now they want to force us to do it. He never got back to the exemption states.
I think it's better to have the sun set at 8pm in summer, rather than 5pm throughout the whole year, how depressing is that lol
I stay on dst all year round because it doesn't do anything for me. I get up mostly in dark most in dark and watch the sun come out and watch tv because most of the shows comes around 4:00 am anyway that I watch. Sometimes I go to bed at 11:00 pm and get up at 3:00 am. Now this is standard time , not dst.
If only Arizona could figure out how to count votes...
They think they are getting extra hour of daylight hour by getting up an hour early. With me I stay on standard time no matter because it's just an hour's difference in hour's sleep. They are not missing out on anything. I'm on central and the sun rises around 5:30 am. They complain they are losing an hour's in the spring and all they need to do is go bed the same time all year round, and, not complain about it.
That is why invented these recorders to watch a favorite show to what later.😁. You don't have to lose an hour's sleep.
In the winter everything comes on an hour later. I don't see how that effects ratings of a show as they claim. We we need standard time all year round.
Best day of the year is the day DST goes into effect. My depression spikes in February. The change in the clocks truly, literally, represents the end of darkness for me.
Totally. My favorite day of the year: Super Bowl, Christmas, Spring Forward. My least favorite days: Fall Back. More Fall Back. Fall Back again.
Oddly enough, my depression goes down in Feb.
It doesn't have anything to do with my birthday though. hehe
They should keep summer hours year round permanently the winter hours are so depressing
I have summer depression. So speak for yourself. This is the worst week of the year for me.
Just choose to wake up earlier and go to bed earlier. It's the same thing. Literally! Just get an alarm clock and never change the time on it. You'll always wake up at the same time everyday and you'll have a one hour head start on everybody all winter long.
we need a nationwide vote on this honestly.
I had my alarm set to 2:20am and forgot that that whole hour doesn't exist when time springs forward. good thing I woke up "early" (1:30-ish) and remember to move the clock forward.
Whoa slow down! We need a democracy to hold a nationwide vote!
"we need a nationwide vote on this honestly"
Absolutely not! We need a benevolent dictator to say spring forward and leave it. Then an order to bring back Futurama and all who oppose aren't allowed to watch.
Permanent daylight saving time, no changing, just summer time forever!
Set your alarm on your cellphone it will take care of dst adjustment.
@@DigitalYojimbo
Thanks for showing why the public isn't capable of making an informed vote on this. Plus, I don't have a cell phone.
I've always thought it was SO WEIRD to pretend the time of day is different, instead of just saying: OK, everything starts one hour earlier in the summer.
But then I think the same about voluntarily aiming for a certain currency inflation, seemingly so people can pretend that their salaries get raised every year.
(Or, conversely, so bosses who don't give raises can pretend that they're NOT lowering the salaries every year.)
Inflation doesn't affect every industry the same way and it's out of their control.
@@Boby9333 And is now out of control. Let's go, Brandon!
Great video. I wasn’t going to watch it but the other selections were boring. I had long believed that DST was for farmers. I’m 61 years old, I love learning new things-especially whenever I had preconceived ideas.
3:24 "Alledgedly better eyesight?" Don't know if that is what he meant but I guess you can see better when there's less coal smoke (residue/stuff/whatever) in the air.
I seem to recall studies that show that children develop better eyesight with more outdoor time and more sun exposure, so maybe that's what's being referred to here.
Exposure to sunlight is directly correlated to quality of vision. The more sun as a kid, the better your eyes work for longer in your lifetime.
Nah, there are studies that say, that sunlight is good for your eyesight in general
Thanks, I hope Joe sees all of your answers!
See scishow video on that, for example. ua-cam.com/video/qwQzTKHIkb4/v-deo.html
Lol, I never thought I would get to see Filthy Frank on this channel.
The breadsticks were never enough. - Ethan
they were the “experts” motivated by money.
Exactly. Greed trumps our health. What's new?
@@KimberlyLetsGo You need to learn what greed really means. Perhaps you'd like it if your employer's revenues went down.
The big money is pushing double DST, even if it kills us.
@@ergonautilus What's double DST?
Joseph Clegg BDSM
getting up with the sun is really helpful. it's just hard to have a good system where everyone is happy. also, I love the "it's time to stop" at about 10:20 Keep it up!
Getting up with the sun works great when you have to get up at 5:00 and the sun doesn't come up for another 3 hours.
I think they need to make permanent standard time so in summer all the nine to five people can have three hours of daylight while they're trying to sleep.
Who is that guy?
@@michaelszczys8316 Having 3 hours of daylight while trying to sleep is actually not a benefit at all. The sun would come up before 5 am which would really disturb sleep schedules. We should just keep the clock changes. They're really useful and we just don't think about that part.
@@laiyemoboys9255 from what I understand the main reason for time changing is so to help little kids going to school to be out in daylight instead of the dark. If they keep the summer hours in the winter then it might still be dark for the smaller kids going to school.
Expect child abductions to increase.
At least the adults won't be troubled and stressed with time changes.
10:41 "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."
well 13 is a time.. 13 hundred hours. ie 1PM
Tony Dratchev Wtaf it’s 13 hours, not 13 HUNDRED hours. Bruhtafwment
Sat/03/06/2021 at 13:07
@@nabranestwistypuzzler7019 thirteen hundred is military time. As in, 1300 hours.
Agent Lurmey But it’s only 13 hours though.
13:00 is 13 hours and 0 minutes into the day while 1300:00 is 13 hundred (1,300) hours and 0 minutes into the day, but there are only 24 hours in a day, so that’s technically 4:00 and 54 days later, and obviously Ik that you can extend it by saying 24:00, 25:00, 26:00, etc. if you’re still awake past 24:00 midnight, but it obviously wouldn’t go on for another 53 days after 28:00 because you would end up having to sleep eventually, and even if you fall asleep on accident and you don’t consider it the next day yet, & then you brush your teeth and can’t fall back asleep on purpose, you would just eventually end up sleeping and considering it the next day or possibly even the day after that depending on how late you fall asleep and wake up, the situation, your own thoughts on the situation, and if you have to wake up and go somewhere.
Sat/03/20/2021 at 14:29 EDT
I love how when faced with using seasonal schedules, our solution was to impose a global timeshift instead of just getting up an hour earlier
I agree! People are dumb!
The part of DST that people hate and whine about is the period of adapting their body clocks to the new time. Your "solution" doesn't remove that problem. Nobody would GAF about DST if they didn't have to spend several days adjusting their circadian rhythms to the new time.
Because work & school still starts at the same time. Waking up earlier while everything is still closed and everyone else is still sleeping, and knowing you need to stay put because you need to be some where in a few hours limits the amount of things you can do with the so called extra daylight.
@@dariel312 - oh ffs! If people *WANTED* to be up an hour earlier _they would *ALREADY* be getting up an hour earlier!÷
_MOST_ people set their alarms for when they *HAVE* to be up and your "solution" apparently just wants to pretend that people aren't human... 🙄
@@brtle I don't know what your point is because I'm not proposing any solution. I'm arguing against waking up earlier as a solution to making the most affective use of daylight
The sun should be highest around noon. The rest is up to your school and work setting reasonable hours.
That's dumb though because where I live in June the sun would be up at 4am and set at 830pm, which is an extremely rise. If it's at PST it's 5am which is early but reasonable and sets at 930pm which is nice because you can spend long days outside out and about.
In the winter on standard it sets at 4pm which is way to early, a set at 5pm would give more time to enjoy life after work
@@adanactnomew7085 correct
Standard time permanently makes super early sunrise especially in the summer while everyone is still sleeping at that time
Permanent DST makes super late sunrise especially in the winter
It’s harder to wake up in the dark which is not good for you
It’s better to change the clocks
@@tahmidabdin4625 Your argument about waking up in the dark being a bad thing is a weak considering in the winter where I live the sun doesn't rise until 8:05am, which is when everyone with a job is already awoken. People wake up to the dark already. What's better is more evening sun people finish work or are already done.
@@tahmidabdin4625 Most of the northern states already wake up in the dark. That statement about it being bad for you is pointless because if so, a majority of the country already does it anyway, just give them an extra hour of sunlight afterwork. That would be the healthier move.
I'm an Italian doctor whose Med School's final essay was about the effects on EU population during DST transitions. True, there in an increased amount of accidents during DST shift that isn't countered by a proportionally decreased number at the return of ST in fall, but these changes are mostly caused by sleep deprivation, which is a self-healing factor. The BIG problem is that, as the video explained and immediately decided to ignore for some reason, there is no way for our bodies to align to DST instead of the Sun, thus the relatively mild but ever persistent effects of circadian misalignment. These can range from sleep and nutrition disorders to full on heart attacks in people whose condition is already compromised, such as shift-workers or the chronically ill.
From this perspective even accounting the risks associated with the time-changes, these are still a better option to permanent DST because at least it means that our bodies can have some months to return in a state of circadian alignment: otherwise the already considerable damage from circadian misalignment would incur in a cumulative effect, just as a person asked to work overtime everyday without pause in which the stress just keeps on building and the burnout comes sooner.
All this even without considering the ethical dilemma and the immense healthcare costs associated with treating those preventable accidents (while instead following consumer lobbies, which are known for not caring about quality of life, but this is just a personal opinion).
Lastly I wanted to add that I'm not unaware on the great psychological benefit of having more light after work but it should be known that it is paid by either time-change problems or the permanent DST ones.
Yeah, I wake up at 9am and go to bed a 1 am... falling asleep is very challenging for me if it is not the time that I am used to. There is absolutely nothing good about standard time for me.
I would say who ever came up with standard time has gotten it wrong.
In the US most people seem to hate it amd would rather just deal with one time or another. Maybe I would be in favor of changing the clocks if I know what time would be like always on dst.
I guess what I'm trying to say is if california amd Florida agree on something, then that is probably correct for the US.
@@ryans3795 Why only two states?
But we also get more daylight after work in the summer Anyway.
@@ryans3795It's been suggested to just change clock by half an hour instead, at whatever the next change is, and end it there. Everyone gets a little.of what they want and we don't need to change the clocks anymore
Best fix is to go perm standard time and let the businesses that want to open an hour earlier in the summer institute summer hours. Many of them already have summer hours because DST made them close an hour earlier in the summer.
The issue with standard time is if work/school starts at 8:30 and finishes at 15:30, some students and workers would finish the regular school/work day less than 30 minutes before sunset. If standard time becomes permanent, school and work should start and finish earlier, and slightly later if DST is permanent.
How to fix daylight saving time:
Step 1: Live in Arizona
Don't even say that as a joke Darrin! That last thing Arizona needs is more people!
Last time I was in Kingman everybody at the Wal-Mart was strapped. I wondered what they were so afraid of.
@@kyledavidson8712
And I wonder what you're so afraid of.
Unless you live in those chunks of Arizona that follow DST.
@@burkholdst.rudderberg3574 Yes, we don't want more people!
"This biannual time change needs to STOP!". Yes, please! I really want this to happen, thank you for bringing your take to the public - CheerZ!
I don't care if it is permanent Daylight time or permanent Standard time, we should just pick one! Over time, our social calendars will adjust, and each area can do so at the time of their own choosing.
I am already hearing talk that if the Sunshine Protection Act passes to make Daylight time permanent, some schools on the western side of time zones (with the latest sunrises) may adjust their school hours to start and end later, so that kids don't have to wait for the bus in the dark as much. That would be the start of adjusting the social calendars.
Some have even suggested making the next change a half hour and ending it there. Everyone gets a little of what they want minus the hassle
@@jaegrant6441 That could work too. Many would complain about the half-hour differences between us and other international time zones, but there are already a few time zones that are off of Greenwich time by half-hours (the closet to us is Newfoundland, which is half an hour ahead of Eastern Time).
There would be complaints for a while, but people would adjust. It would be a lot better than repeatedly having to readjust to standard and daylight times.
If you start the school day later, you end it later. You literally get no difference in the amount of sunshine you receive.
@@BrianRetro Exactly. The sun doesn't care what we call each hour of the day, we either will or will not have daylight in that hour regardless. We can plan hours for school around when we have daylight, regardless of what those hours are called.
All we need is a consistent name for each hour, not the current system that changes the names for each hour twice a year.
And more children are injured with the extended darkness in the morning. One unexpected benefit to moving from California to Arizona was the fact that AZ doesn't have the asinine DST!
"Voluntarily"
"Mandated by the government"
Hmm
Voluntarily, in that we could all move to Hawaii or Arizona if we wanted.
Volun-told
Well it's a government we elect. (Shrug)
But he means on a social level that humans decided to make it this way, rather than just letting things be.
Just like gender roles and certain specific, restrictive social norms. Man-made constructions that take away freedom and your sense of self, "because that's just the way it is." It doesn't HAVE to be. People decided it would be. And people can undecide it.
(P.S. - OMG Moltar! That old Space Ghost villain turned talkshow host assistant turned badass Toonami broadcaster (before TOM). Man, nostalgia hitting me in the face! Good taste in character there dude! :D)
I was thinking the same thing
I actually once elected not to switch to DST, constantly complaining why all my appointments suddenly were moved an hour earlier (note that even if I did change my clock, they were still moved an hour earlier, I just would not have noticed as much).
I remember when the US enacted year-round Daylight Saving Time in January 1974 because of the oil crisis. It was awful... and stupid. People hated it and Congress repealed it eventually in 1975.
Thanks to president Nixon, we had to endure 18 months of that.
I hate changing twice per year regardless of direction. It screws me up for 2 weeks each change and I resent it always. I wish it would go away. Thanks for making our voice heard.
Permanent Standard Time. May health, reason, and science, triumph over crony capitalism.
Agreed!
Yes! I hate to think of a world where noon happens at 1pm, but even that is still better than the total mess we currently have
@@ngiorgos then you better not go to Singapore or west malaysia. noon at 1pm is the norm
I want to have noon at 12:00 even if it means I'd have to get up 1 hour earlier.
@@mirradric that's a shame, but at least they have the same timezone year round! Here in Greece, what timezone we're in depends on when you asked. That's ridiculous!
I usually agree with your videos, but looking at this from an astronomic viewpoint, DST just makes absolutely no sense. Imo it would be better if, instead of switching to DST to line up with social time, we were to just adjust our social time. What I mean by that is that the standard workday wouldn't be 9-5 but 8-4. The effect is the same, but time stays astronomically correct.
Your 'solution' is to continue practicing DST but just pretend like we don't ;-)
Astronomically correct is the best kind of correct.
A problem with your idea is that school would have to begin earlier, and studies show it needs to start later, especially middle and high school.
@@kyledavidson8712 Until you realize it's just made up. ;-)
@ Actually it's DST that is pretending it's a different time than it really is.
"The best intentions, executed poorly" ... and then written into law ...
Springing forward is my favorite time of the year.
I hate falling back. 😩
You enjoy loosing an hour more than you enjoy gaining one?
I agree with you totally
I am a software developer and I have to say: Daylight saving's time is the _worst_. It's extremely difficult to compare times when the differences are arbitrary and randomly changing
This is (part of) why we use things like Unix Time en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time and UTC en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
Leap seconds are even worse. We need UTC everywhere, without leap seconds. And write it in ISO8601 for humans and unix time for computers everywhere.
I'm sure it's difficult, but I don't think they are changing randomly. Every country has s very fixed schedule on it.
@@Gwydda Countries have. Until they don't. Which is happens a lot when politics get involved. Because apparently changing DST stance is a quick way to boost an approval level. At least in Russia the period between 2010 and 2014 was really weird with all the time changing laws breaking something every year. (And that's only on federal level, I dunno about all the regional bullshit). At least twice during that period Windows Time Service was unable to keep up with our chaotic politics and we were forced to manually switch time zones for a couple of weeks/months until they update their time synchronisation services to a new legal reality.
Try this: save a file, note the timestamp, wait for the time change, then look at the time the file was saved. What? Off by an hour? Made unreliable by the time change...... Try using that as evidence in a court. (Where were you at 5PM on the night of....)
@@stan.rarick8556 Won't work on *nix. The actual saved time is UTC, which gets converted on the fly to what you see - and that conversion knows about DST.
Why didn’t they just start making people work earlier?
They do, and changing the clocks is how they do it. How would you do it? Mind you, I think DST is silly, but people won't do something coordinated like that without a mandate.
what about school...
@@COPKALA change school hours, in nz we have 4 terms a year, we could have terms 1 & 4 start at say, 10am, and terms 2&3 start at 9am. same as workers, easy fix.
That's going to basically have all the same psychological pitfalls of changing the clocks twice a year but add more confusion.
Just make noon the time the sun reaches its highest point in the sky each day... have schedules remain based statically on times, and design schedules moving forward to be the most beneficial averaged throughout the entire year.
In mexico in one state everyone went against Dst and they stay as the only state that doesn’t chenge its hour
As a Queenslander:
Permanent standard time!
Nope stop lying Australia sucks . Aussie Aussie Aussie SUCKs SUXKs SUX
Permanent standard time would mess up the day and night cycle just as if it were permanent daylight saving time. Overtime instead of later sunrises and sunsets, you would have early sunrises and sunsets. I think it should stay as it is. Spring up in the summer, and fall back in the winter. The only difference that should be changed is that when it's time to spring up in the summer, it should spring up two hours instead of one, and fall back one hour in the winter. As least you would still have that extra hour of daylight in the winter.
@@josephclegg3562, nope. The science says staying with either time permanently would cause much less disruption to our circadian rythym. This would result in fewer heart attacks and accidents. But, it's cool to be anti science these days. Go ahead and believe lies.
Yes please.
As a West Aussie... yes! Screw those other guys with their saving of daylight.
I’m down for permanent summertime, means no clock changes and the bonus of not having it get dark so goddamn early in the winter
Does not help in the winter. Days r too small!
Instead of calling it permanent daylight saving time why not push everyone one time zone to the east?
Me too!! :). PERMANENT DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME!!!
@@nixl3518 It would help most in winter with the few light hours shifted more to the evening when you are awake and active. Where I live in Northern Ireland it would mean people who don’t see their homes in daylight in midwinter would with an hours shift.
@@davidwright7193 You are among many who are stuck on this one side of the day concept, ignoring the other and I would love to also benefit from an extra hour in the afternoon myself. I agree that anywhere in the UK and latitudes further north, there is little daylight if any in winter, specially if you realize that clouds that are heavier and more frequent in winter, take considerable light away from the planet's surface as well. I've lived in your country for several years and have experienced the darkness of winter and I hated it. So I left!!
The problem is that because we just cannot ADD more daylight to the evening, u'd have to take it from the morning. You might not be interested in morning light but many of your compatriots are, and children who wake up in the dark would be better off with some light as they go to school. It would be preferable for there to be daylight before lunchtime, so to keep things balanced, the clock is swung back to the definitive hour so that the sun is at its highest at noon. The choices are to either move south, or to alter the axis of the earth's rotation to be more vertical to the plane of rotation about the Sun. Both will result in more daylight in winter. Your choice.
Where I live, on the longest day of the year, the sun rises at 5:17, and sets at 22:06, and on the shortest day it rises at 8:50, and sets at 16:26. So if we stay with DST all year, the sun would rise at 9:50 in December! And if we stick with Standard time, the sun rises at 4:17 in June. Both of those sound kinda sucky. I don't see the big deal about a one hour shift twice a year- I fly many more time zones than that regularly. But I think we should just shorten work/school hours in the winter so we can see the sun occasionally and get more sleep.
Thank you. This was missing in the video.
Can't agree more.
As a Canadian in the winter you're getting up before the sunrise anyways. To me it doesn't matter if the sun rises at 9:50 or 8:50 if I have to wake up and drive to work in the pitch black anyways what's the difference? At least I'll see the sun for 30 minutes after work with permanent DST.
@@Weaver_Games cus if its 9:50 it's pitch black at schooltime and some kids walk to school
Or we could just all get up an hour earlier and leave the clocks as they are. "Workin'... 8 to 4, what a way to make a livin'!"
8:02 lol imagine having a circadian rhythm that actually worked well enough to notice moving the clocks forward/back...
:(
its horrible
@@dlversace What is this "getting tired" thing you're refering...
Daylight savings used to really mess me up, but nowadays I barely notice when it happens. My sleep schedule is so messed up it hardly makes a difference.
Yes, I know what you mean, I worked swing-shifts for over 30 years. Been retired for 20 years and still can not get my sleep cycle to work.
Time before screens
Your placement in a particular time zone is more impactful to personal well being. Compare sunrise/sunset in Boston vs Indianapolis for example
Why suggest permanent DST if it messes with our body? Permanent standard time sounds more reasonable to me.
Both time would cause chaos if either became permanent.
Yes. I wholeheartedly agree.
Cause I don't want the sun to rise at 4:24am
Weaver Games Curtains, dude...
Permanent half DST makes most sense meaning we would be 30 minutes in the middle.
One of the few things I liked about living in Phoenix was no Daylight Saving. Now I'm in a state that uses DST. It takes me about 8 months to adjust to "jumping forward" each year...
As someone who works in the VERY early hours of the morning, I'm personally in favor of keeping Standard Time. I don't exactly complain when the sun sets at 6 if I have to wake up for work at 2am haha
Fast-forward one year... the US government is seriously considering finally ridding us of this nuisance and this year we may not be setting our clocks back in autumn! I choose to believe it's because of your video :)
I love it when the clocks get set back. It feels so nice to go to work/school when it is bright out!
Standard time all year round.. People just need to start the day earlier. Instead of having opening hours slowly creep towards noon.
I don't see why it's so hard...
Agreed! I have "Reverse S.A.D." which is summer depression. Leaving the clocks set to standard time would really help me. Daylight Savings Time interferes with sleep in a very negative way. And those extra fatal car accidents (and even heart attacks) occur in the Spring change, not the Fall.
not everyone is a morning person. i prefer more daytime in the evening.
@@CrisURace I'm not a morning person either, but I don't like getting up in the dark. It makes it much harder for a night owl to get up. And the manupulated sunlight in the evening really screws up sleep for the night. Night owls need it to get dark at the "standard" time. Otherwise it's a recipe for sleep deprivation, insomnia, and finally, summer depression, which I have.
A darker evening improves my post-dinner creative time. If it's still bright out, my mind doesn't function normally as it does in winter.
It's supposed to be light in the morning and dark in the evening. We should change it back this fall and leave it alone forever!
@@RobinMarkowitzcoolmedia Yep, that's a severe safety hazard when car accidents double to quintuple during daylight saving time. Imagine how many millions of lives would be saved annually worldwide from getting rid of DST.
As a Malaysian, we as a 'country that does not have seasons' don't even really need that daylight saving thingy
I think you mean "country doesn't" or "country does not"?
@@azuregriffin1116 Thx for pointing that out 🤣
@@jasonk. no issue. I'm one of those dreaded Brits, up North, and at the moment, we do not have a proper nighttime. The sun dips below the horizon, but you still see the glow easily. Our daylight fluctuates by about ten hours between Winter and Summer. In Winter, it's pitch black when I set out and get home. In Summer, it's properly dark from about 22:30 to 03:30.
I'm Malay too, DST is worthless since the sun shines 12/7/365 and why would you adjust the clocks when the sun is always like that here?
Uhh, if you’re in West Malaysia, you’re already on permanent DST since Jan 1, 1980! The sun always rise and set around 7 o’clock.
Few years ago, we were in night shift while clock needed to change one hour backward.... So, we extended work time for one hour, non payed. Atleast i added one more 15 min. break till end of the shift.
Just split the difference. If standard time: move it forward a half hour. If DST: move it back a half hour. And then just keep it that way. It will be called New Standard Time.
If we did that y wouldnt we just stop doing the time change entirely?
Thats nonsense!!
@@nixl3518 No changing at all is also nonsense. I don't really like the ½ hour change either though.
@@laiyemoboys9255 Just because someone comes up with a cockamamie idea doesn’t make it an option. There is no discussion about a half hour change which you correctly say is nonsense. The only discussion is about the one hour shift over the summer, nothing else and that is necessary for our way of life on our planet. There is nothing to fix because we already did it a long time ago and there can be no improvement on what we have already done.
@@nixl3518There is a discussion and it's not a cockamamie idea.
The half hour idea is to keep everyone happy. Those who claim to love the daylight saving and those who don't care but want to stop the clock change.
The half hour just seems weirs because it's off from what we consider "normal"
Joe: Permanent DST!
Scientists: Yeah, uh, bad idea.
Joe: Permanent DST anyway!
Since when do you ignore science!?
He mentioned pros and cons to both.
1234kalmar . Yep he did, then he said makes DST permanent even though it ignores the fact that our social reasons for DST can be more easily changed than our biological needs that are more aligned with standard time.
I agree, listen to the scientists! Switching twice a year causes a lot of accidents right? Imagine a permanently shifted time where our bodies never fully agree with the Clock!
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So In the summer you've never felt back to normal? I think bodies adjust. Permanent dst wouldn't be a big deal.
Permanent standard time is the way to go, get rid of DST. Fall back and never leap forward again!
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Daylight Saving Time is so much better for my depression though. That extra hour of sun really does a lot for me.
Then move everything in your life to an hour earlier...
There is no extra "hour of sunlight"! It's the same amount just called by a different label!
@@nicholaswilley9001 maybe they prefer to have that hour after work more than before work, and so do I. Before work, I'm busy sleeping and getting ready for work.
@@nicholaswilley9001 I know, but I am awake later hours in the day. I would argue that most people are awake for hours past sunset but not awake earlier than sunrise.
@@leedoyeon Exactly :)
Standard Time works. If it ain't broke, dont fix it. Workplaces can adopt Summer hours. My Summer morning hours belong TO ME, not the company I work for.
fun fact
this year was the first year brazil did not do daylight savings time
Jealous!
It's life changing
My condolences... having sun lit hours cut by a whole hour... A nightmare
@@1234kalmar you can get up an hour earlier without the clocks lying to you. Go get that sunlight, just don't give everyone else jetlag to get it.
Bolsonaro did something right, finally!!
0:20 I heavily disagree on the notion that this mess happens _voluntarily._ I have to do it because the entire EU does it, and even though over 60% of EU citizens said in a survey that they'd like to see it abolished, the governing bodies can't decide on when and how to do it, so we'll just continue to set our clocks to a different time twice a year, with all the chaos that brings with it every time.
I was pretty sure Germany got rid of it...
@@davinderc Nope. We _want_ to get rid of it. But we will probably still need to deal with this mess for some time 🤷♂️
Hopefully not for long. : )
As mentioned at 10:30: www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20190321IPR32107/parliament-backs-proposal-to-end-switch-between-summer-and-winter-time-in-2021
Time works perfectly in Arizona. No 'daylight saving time' in Arizona. Just plain old 'time'. If you want more sunshine in your day, GET OUT OF BED WHEN THE SUN COMES UP, LAZY BONES! Stop expecting the rest of the world to make the late hours bright just for you.
It would be nice to just keep it one way or the other. Just pick standard or daylight time and stick with it. Doesn't matter to me which one as long as it stays the same all year.
It's not voluntary, it's forced by governments ;)
It's observed by government and public institutions (schools, stock market, majors office public transport in most places) if businesses and private people don't use it they don't.
@@fionafiona1146 : But try using Standard Time to determine when you go home from work when Daylight time is in effect... I don't think your boss would like it...
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That's their business, having "core times" I am required to be present and being 30/90min early depending on the time is OK.
@@nicholaswilley9001 What kind of not to date boss would mind if you work from 8h to 16h instead of 9h to 17h?!?!?!
@@LordKalte How about any boss that's not over cubicle workers? Shifts are not flexible in service industries. Or retail. Or manufacturing.
In Australia to remember what one to do we used to say "Spring forward fall back" but everything is automatic now
That’s really interesting, never heard it before.
Everyone says that.
Haha, I didn't even know about Day light saving time until this video because we don't have one. Have fun messing with clocks.
A boss and I was discussing which time would be better to leave time at summer or winter. I told him there is a third option for a permanent time placement. It is that half hour between the two. Instead of setting the clock back an hour in the fall. Set it back a half hour and leave it there.
I'm pretty sure the question of "truth versus a lie" is in no way dependent on "by how much".
“Most of the world most powerful countries” adds flag of Dominican Republic 😂😂
you forgot ''100 years ago''
End the madness, end DST.
Write the german government and tell them! They are currently in charge of the EU and countless germans HATE dst!
As an (apparently) direct descendant of the nomadic genome, I like sleeping until 8-10AM and staying awake and working until 2-4AM. Six hours' sleep works great for me.
I think it's time for an OK to be Smart video regarding hunter/gatherer v farmer genomes and their connection to sleep habits as well as to identifying as social liberals and conservatives!
We don't need sunset at 10:30pm.
Change it by half hour on the next change, and end it.!
I would love to just follow the sun. Get up by it at dawn, and go to sleep when it gets dark. All these clocks are ruining our lives regardless of the hour they are pointing at.
If this were the case, then during Winter everyone in Scotland would be sleeping for 16 hours every day.
@@observer4916 Well, I was talking about me. But I believe all would benefit from a more natural rhythm of life.
In the north the sun literally sets at 4… I support your idea.
@@DrBernon your belief is also wrong, but we just cannot change the world to suit your tastes!
That's only possible for people who live near equator, and we have never had problem with clocks to begin with.
Why would you switch to permanent daylight saving time? Just switch to standard time and have stuff start an hour earlier if thats what you want.
I think many people here haven't heard of an alarm clock!!
That extra hour of daylight sounds good tho.
Most of us don't determine our own work schedules and an extra hour of light after work in the evening is much more useful than in the morning.
@@hipp0stratus True. I myself am more active during the night. Feel more like a bat rather than a rooster.
@@hipp0stratus Exactly - People are going into work later these days and that extra hour of daylight at the end of the day is great for safety and outdoor activities.
Permanent standard time is the clear, and correct answer to this superficial problem
Nope nope nope nope nope stop lying
That would be just as bad as permanent daylight saving time. If that were to happen, overtime it would mess up the day and night cycle. Sunset could be as early as 1pm.
@@josephclegg3562 What is so bad about that? The day is shorter regardless in winter and if you work an off shift like I do (3PM-11PM) all DST does is piss you off with a unnecessary clock change.
@@waynepurcell6058 the kinds of replies we're seeing above shows just why DST is a bad idea and why it's still practiced: ppl actually believe changing the clocks adds an extra hour of sunlight to the day.
I worked on a farm for years. The cows came in to be milked at the same time every day throughout the year, no matter what the clock said.
It isn't a matter of "singular, not plural."
In "Daylight Saving Time," "saving" is the verb in a participle phrase describing the time.
In "Daylight Savings Time," "savings" is a singular mass noun.
You tell em, Steve Dave
As someone living in Scandinavia, it actually makes a difference. I get that i'ts annoying and everyone hates it, I do too, but when the differences in time and light is as big as they are here (as in the sundown changing from 2pm to 10pm depending on the season), it's actually kinda helpful to get the amount of sun you need to not get a vitamin D-defincency .
honestly, even in the uk sunset is at like 4pm already and it's not even winter yet. and in the summer it's past 9.
I'm Finnish and I don't understand that argument. DTS doesn't affect the amount of sunlight during the winter, since winter is standard time. In the summer, the sun is up all the time anyway so what's the point? All it does is make it even harder to go to sleep early since the sun is up an hour longer. It's nonsense.
At your latitude, you don't "get" enough vitamin D no matter how much time you spend in the sun. Something about the suns rays not being strong enough going through the atmosphere at a steeper angle. I live at a similar latitude and even outdoor enthusiasts roaming under the midnight sun have vitamin D deficiency. At latitudes where the sunlight sparks the production of vitamin D in your body you only need a few minutes a day anyway, so DST shouldn't make a difference in that. Especially since midday sun is better than morning or afternoon for this reaction.
Nobody gets any more or less sun. That's not changeable. All you do is start and end at a different time .... which is fine, but the way you do it is to lie about what time it is, which is not fine.
No one, anywhere, gets more or less sunlight. That's not possible. All DST does is lie about what time it is.
Something I think gets overlooked: sunRISE times
In a place like Seattle that's farther to the north, the sun rises at around 5 AM during the summer solstice. That's already early enough. Imagine still being on standard time and having the sun rise at 4 AM. That's way too early. Same thing during the winter solstice. The sun already rises at 8 AM. If it was still DST, the sun wouldn't rise until close to 9. The adjusting to DST and back helps the sunrise times to be more reasonable
That's why shift workers invest in this neato keen new fangled invention called blackout curtains - so we have a dark room to sleep in when the sun is shining.
Yes. The idea we already have is so much better. I would hate to have a 4:46 AM sunrise on the summer solstice. 5:46 AM is much more reasonable. And why make the sunset time earlier lol?
It does no such thing. The time the sun rises/sets on any particular day is fixed by the Universe and does not change from year to year. All DST does is LIE about the simple question "what time is it".