Neil you have stimulated my mind in a totally different way. I am 81 and a retired phD in toxicology and if younger would work on an advanced degree in astrophysics. What a challenge into understanding the universe and working on so much unknown. You have stimulated me and challenged my mind. Thank you
I'm late to the Neil Degrass Tyson exploration but I am addicted. I work at Frito Lay, headphones of any kind and phones are not allowed on the floor. I'm Bluetoothing taking that risk for this show. This Man is a Gem and we must protect him. He is my Albert Einstein my Steven Hawking. Love you Brother. Keep em coming.
This was perfect in what seemed the original design of STAR TALK combining popular culture (stars) and science discussion. Fantastic and love Brian Greene and his World Science Festival channel too!
What Chuck was talking about, when he mentioned measuring time by an event, is pretty much the same as the *Star Trek TNG* episode *"Darmok".* Where they encounter a species that linguistics are metaphor based, using references to *past events,* making their universal translators all but useless. *"Shaka. When the walls fell."*
The fact that Chuck immediately knew what OED & PED meant speaks volumes for how far he's come in his near decade learning with/from Neil. I adore that man 🩷💛🩵
I'm 36 now and I know that episode well! I watched Lucy with my mama for years and years and we have to this day local/broadcast channels on TV that still show the awesome classics/oldies!
Greetings from London guys. Many thanks for a past podcast as I was able to answer a question on The Chase this evening in the UK. Answer was Simone Biles. I was the only one in my online pub quiz to answer her name correctly. Cheers lads for that one. 🍻🥂
You guys are amazing! I thank you all for the exchange of such enriching dialogue... surely one of my favorite pastimes! By the way, I believe that the title of the movie referenced is “It Happened Tomorrow”, 1944... I’m curious to see if that was it? Stay well!
So incredibly fascinating. A thought -- just like how "we" decided what organization and disorganization is, our definition of progress as movement towards mechanization might not show up in some cultures' ideology if they conceive of time cyclically, but it doesnt mean they dont have other ideas of "progress" such as new generations coming into existence, the stability of the natural environment, the expansion of personal wisdom and emotional mastery as you revisit life's cyclical occurrences... And there are multiple ancient examples of "geometry" in cultures other than Greece.
Only seeing this in 2014, but I have a some belated comments. [1] The definition of "leap second" allows for negative leap seconds where a day is shortened rather than lengthened. A lot of existing computer software will break if this happens. [2] Once technology advances enough we may be be able to dispose of these pesky leap seconds by tweaking the rotational speed of earth to keep a day 24*60*60 seconds long. Crazy with current technologies, but we already adjust the length of days every time we start up a massive water/energy project, such as making energy from sea waves. The Three Gorges Dam in China changed the spin once as the dam filled up and started making electricity.
⏳Excuse me Mr. Time Traveler Sir, 😂 You say that you're only seeing this in 2014, however the UA-cam time info above your comment shows and states that you posted this and then edit it 7 days ago! 😆 So are you viewing this from our past of 10 years ago, even though StarTalk shows the video was posted 3 years ago, (which is certainly not from the year of 2014) .... And yet...you're correcting it 10 years later in our year of 2024, and not from your original viewing year of 2014? 🤣
Hi Neil and Chuck, I love listening and watching StarTalk. I just have one request can you put in the description the link of the website of your guest. Thank you very much.
Looking at time as a helix as opposed to a straight line or a circle is actually GENIUS..!! Because we actually conceive of time simultaneously as linear AND by our cyclic calendars.
I am an old Icelander and I remember from years ago that when customs stopped shipments of cigarettes, it was reported in the news how many cigarettes were confiscated, but not how many packs of cigarettes, or how many cartons. This was always a very high number.
The Tenth Doctor : People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a nonlinear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.
11:04 I'm 40 and I love that episode. My favorite Lucy episode has got to be the Vitavetavegamin(or however u spell it) episode where she got drunk!!! F***in CLASSIC!!!!
Dear Doctor Aveni, The glockenspiel at the Marienplatz in Munich is on the 19th-century city hall, not a church and not really very old. Just sayin' = )
Prof. Anthony was great - but I humbly suggest he wear a different shirt next time! This was an awesome episode thank you all - and UA-cam Chuck! Wink!
32:15 "Cultures that mark time just from events" This is how it started in places away from the equator. Seasonal changes such as deadly winters were enough to force cultures to anticipate the next cold time, and "How many winters passed since x". This concern based on lethal conditions expanded into why northern Europe is culturally known for punctuality.
Its interesting to consider time as conceived of, or not, by cultures before our own. Although, in the deepest depths of human history, I doubt there has ever been a period where time or at least a passing awareness of its passing, a loose understanding of its sequences, would not have been fundamentally important. The best time to fetch water from the watering hole, is going to be the time where the fewest prey and predators are present. The time to make the journey across the mountains is when the snows do not fully cover the peak. The time to travel on the river in a boat is when there is enough current to carry you one way without tearing your boat apart, but not enough current that it cannot be overcome by the action of your oars. Though no name might be given to these periods, though they may be moveable and unmoored from precision, they are definite. That being said, these are not "times", but situations. The animals at the watering hole do not care what o'clock it is, they do what they will for reasons all their own. The weather cares not what hour, of what day, of what month it is, and does not provide or remove the snow from the mountain according to any schedule aside from its own. The river cannot be relied upon to be a certain depth or have a certain current, perfectly regularly. Rains, winds, drought, a heap of variables effect it. Situations, not time in abstract, would have been more important than dates and measurements, and a more reliable parameter to make decisions on the basis of, than arbitrary or even closely observed systems of measuring time.
The universe we inhabit is filled with cycles. Night becomes day, planets rotate around the Sun, seasons change, and so much more. We use these cycles to measure the passage of time, but like the universe's cycles, that was only the beginning."THE TIME NOW'
In fact, our time is cyclical and helical. We move along the universe wholly in unison with the entire galactic plane and our galaxy moves along with all of spacetime. The big question is, how long can the expansion last?
Also I wonder what difference there would be in the sciences in the USA if they had switched to metric in the 70's. Does metric make science more accurate or easy to calculate measurements?
Great episode! I don’t know if anyone mentioned it in the comments, but I believe W. B. Yeats had this concept of ‘spiral time’, in a theosophical framework, though.
I'm pushing 86, and in the mid 1960s seriously thought that immortality was just around the corner. Around 1975 the Government Printing Office published a pamphlet detailing the economic consequences of extended life spans including immortality, which made me wonder if the government was withholding the immortality pills, since immortality was not good for the economy, even if physical quality of life remained good. I would choose immortality, but there's a lot to be said for knowing that I don't have to worry about worrying forever or even indefinitely.
The bit about aliens with no concept of time reminds me of The Prophets of Bajor in Star Trek Deep Space Nine, which exist outside of 4D spacetime. Presumably, this is what enabled them to construct the artificial wormhole between Bajor and the Gamma Quadrant, but also made (makes? will make? has been/is/will be making? "Temporal mechanics give me a headache.") them unable to understand the importance of time to temporal beings. A major plot point of the series premiere had Ben Sisko, as the Emissary to the Prophets, explaining how, for us, the past cannot be changed and what we do in the present determines our futures.
Love this guy’s library in the background. The books seem to be holding up the ceiling!
P
Ye he run out of bricks so he just used books
now that's a study
It looks like a fun house 😂
It's episodes like this that make me wish Star Talk was two hours long +++
Same.
@@phil.d-roll6393 yes sir
yes
why isnt it, Neil just decides, well i cant be fcked with another question so thats all folks
They should record it on Mars... 🕑🕐😉
Neil you have stimulated my mind in a totally different way. I am 81 and a retired phD in toxicology and if younger would work on an advanced degree in astrophysics. What a challenge into understanding the universe and working on so much unknown. You have stimulated me and challenged my mind. Thank you
Bruh
Dear Neil deGrasse Tyson, dear Chuck Nice, dear Anthony Aveni, thank You for the pleasure you deliver 💖
While this video was time consuming, it was time well spent.
Very forced
You had to, huh? 😆
@@josephjeon804 time is forced
@@rachelminneapolis forced is time
@@josephjeon804 🤯
Anthony is such a Young spirited and wise guy wish he keeps coming back to startalk
if he gets a new mic that would be GREAT.
Show is about time and you ignore time. He is not young by any human measurement. That does not deny any of his other qualities, just get real man.
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@@janmacek5672 in u
I'm late to the Neil Degrass Tyson exploration but I am addicted. I work at Frito Lay, headphones of any kind and phones are not allowed on the floor. I'm Bluetoothing taking that risk for this show. This Man is a Gem and we must protect him. He is my Albert Einstein my Steven Hawking. Love you Brother. Keep em coming.
I could listen to Anthony go on about this stuff for hours, guess I'm getting some books tonight!
I look forward to this show. Should get some type of an award🥇.
That episode was one of the most interesting for me, and hilarious thanks to Chuck:) Thank you very much, gentlemen!
Hello
I never comment but this guy is a great guest host! I really hope you have him back! Fascinating stuff.
I love the guests on star talk, they bring in a new perspective and it’s refreshing ❗️
Greetings from Poland❤️ Thank you Dr Neil for sharing with us your knowledge and thank you Chuck for entertaining us😍
Anthony is womderful! please bring him back ❤️
I should say Dr Aveni 🙃
Wow…what a great guy Anthony is, and his sense of humour fit in perfectly with Neil and Chuck.
This was perfect in what seemed the original design of STAR TALK combining popular culture (stars) and science discussion. Fantastic and love Brian Greene and his World Science Festival channel too!
"...and now I don't believe anything." LOL I love you man!
Absolutely loved and enjoyed this episode
What Chuck was talking about, when he mentioned measuring time by an event, is pretty much the same as the *Star Trek TNG* episode *"Darmok".*
Where they encounter a species that linguistics are metaphor based, using references to *past events,* making their universal translators all but useless.
*"Shaka. When the walls fell."*
"With his eyes black..."
Reminded me of land of the lost..not sure why;) just the image I saw reading your post;)
Kadir beneath Mo Moteh
Chenza at court, the court of silence
The beast at Tanagra
Sokath, his eyes uncovered
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
I loved that episode!
Haha that's cool
Love you more than I know and value your understanding more than you know. Thanks for everything.best wishes.
The fact that Chuck immediately knew what OED & PED meant speaks volumes for how far he's come in his near decade learning with/from Neil. I adore that man 🩷💛🩵
I'm 36 now and I know that episode well! I watched Lucy with my mama for years and years and we have to this day local/broadcast channels on TV that still show the awesome classics/oldies!
Sausage
Just finished work. Perfect timing.
I can say the same, and I just started.
@@michaeltovrea7947 Is it really "work" if you're just watching UA-cam?
I haven't.... but this is better than just music while working
"You make one joke in 5 years, and this is what you come up with! "
"Timing... is everything"
That guy needs more books
He needs some type of book storing backpack that resembles a shell so he can just pull books out at any time.
Are you jealous?
He needs a new library
He needs more dimensions to be able to stock more.
You sir, won the internet. Thank you for your accomplishment and contribution in this life.
One of the best yet. Absolutely fascinating! I’m grateful for you guys.
Such a great episode! My mind was blown several times, we need a part 2!!! (Love from
London ❤️)
i love listening to Cosmic Queries when i'm playing games. it's better than music for me.
These shows could go on forever. These guys are gems 🤌❤️
I remember that I Love Lucy episode and I'm 40. Such a great show.
I'm 32 and I've seen it via Nick at nite.
_I Love Lucy_ stopped airing 6 years before I was born, and I’ve seen that episode.
@@RickySTT so that makes you like 100 years old then?
I’ve only recently found your podcasts, and being a “time-o-phile” this was the most fascinating yet.
This show made me realize I was a nerd my whole life and ain’t even know it. Thanks StarTalk
Greetings from London guys. Many thanks for a past podcast as I was able to answer a question on The Chase this evening in the UK. Answer was Simone Biles. I was the only one in my online pub quiz to answer her name correctly. Cheers lads for that one. 🍻🥂
@Emma Olbison It so was Emma. Beyond belief.
Chuck Nice was awesome! Thanks so much. Please come back!
I truly enjoyed the time I spent watching this show
I could watch yall forever. This was my favorite
You guys are amazing! I thank you all for the exchange of such enriching dialogue... surely one of my favorite pastimes! By the way, I believe that the title of the movie referenced is “It Happened Tomorrow”, 1944... I’m curious to see if that was it? Stay well!
This is my new favorite episode. Great talk
I'm 35 and the candy conveyor belt episode is my favorite episode 😄
can’t believe this content is free.
So incredibly fascinating. A thought -- just like how "we" decided what organization and disorganization is, our definition of progress as movement towards mechanization might not show up in some cultures' ideology if they conceive of time cyclically, but it doesnt mean they dont have other ideas of "progress" such as new generations coming into existence, the stability of the natural environment, the expansion of personal wisdom and emotional mastery as you revisit life's cyclical occurrences... And there are multiple ancient examples of "geometry" in cultures other than Greece.
his glasses are out of control
it's an S.O.S. signal..
Only seeing this in 2014, but I have a some belated comments.
[1] The definition of "leap second" allows for negative leap seconds where a day is shortened rather than lengthened. A lot of existing computer software will break if this happens.
[2] Once technology advances enough we may be be able to dispose of these pesky leap seconds by tweaking the rotational speed of earth to keep a day 24*60*60 seconds long. Crazy with current technologies, but we already adjust the length of days every time we start up a massive water/energy project, such as making energy from sea waves. The Three Gorges Dam in China changed the spin once as the dam filled up and started making electricity.
⏳Excuse me Mr. Time Traveler Sir,
😂 You say that you're only seeing this in 2014, however the UA-cam time info above your comment shows and states that you posted this and then edit it 7 days ago! 😆 So are you viewing this from our past of 10 years ago, even though StarTalk shows the video was posted 3 years ago, (which is certainly not from the year of 2014) .... And yet...you're correcting it 10 years later in our year of 2024, and not from your original viewing year of 2014? 🤣
This episode needs a part 2!
Elite episode this one.. Thoroughly enjoyed it 👍🏾
Hi Neil and Chuck, I love listening and watching StarTalk. I just have one request can you put in the description the link of the website of your guest. Thank you very much.
Thank you Neil and Chuck, forever (literally :D).
Best guest I've seen on this show yet.
This blew my mind. I will think of time completely differently for the rest of my life
that is Science to you!
2nd time I’m listening to this episode, loving it through and through
Looking at time as a helix as opposed to a straight line or a circle is actually GENIUS..!!
Because we actually conceive of time simultaneously as linear AND by our cyclic calendars.
I wish i can stay as bright in my old days as these guys
the best guest so far
i love these hour long ones... lets me go to sleep all nice and comfoy
That was a great interview, love it when your on the edge of madness but not loosing the intellect of the subject.
Love this guy and all of you are awesome!
I’m super psyched that they actually answered my question on this episode!!!
Best show ever, on my third rewatch 😂
I love Learning and laughing at the same TIME.
I am an old Icelander and I remember from years ago that when customs stopped shipments of cigarettes, it was reported in the news how many cigarettes were confiscated, but not how many packs of cigarettes, or how many cartons. This was always a very high number.
The Tenth Doctor : People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a nonlinear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.
Don't blink
Weebles wabble but they don't fall down 🤣
I'd ride in the TARDIS
As a atchmaker I love this! nobody knows more than I hat it takes to make time...
If you ever get a chance read "Finding Longetude"
Neil is always nailing it
@attracted to the metal like magneto hahaha agreed
He's Badass
I can't sleep sooooo I will watch this
11:04 I'm 40 and I love that episode. My favorite Lucy episode has got to be the Vitavetavegamin(or however u spell it) episode where she got drunk!!! F***in CLASSIC!!!!
I measure how much time I work by startalk episodes.
I would love these sessions to be in multi hour long form
Still early in 2021 but this one is sure to be one of the top 3 episodes this year.
Thanks!
this is like the prime video for showcasing to someone how time is a social construct
Sausage
Dear Doctor Aveni, The glockenspiel at the Marienplatz in Munich is on the 19th-century city hall, not a church and not really very old. Just sayin' = )
I am 43, I used to watch the reruns of I love Lucy, all the time!
"There is only one level of bad for me." And here i expected him to say "BADASS" :P
BA Bad Attitude!
I pray I am that young as I grow older.. Anthony is so brilliant.. I wished he was the guy next door..
Great time spent on learning.
Their relationship is the cutest thing ever if you both were single y’all would be the cutest couple ever 😂💜
This is a tremendous talk; thank you!!
I was looking forward to the metric system waaay back then! I can't believe we won't
This is my favorite Episode EVER
Hey, hey now.. I’m 31 and I remember that episode of I Love Lucy!
Prof. Anthony was great - but I humbly suggest he wear a different shirt next time! This was an awesome episode thank you all - and UA-cam Chuck! Wink!
32:15 "Cultures that mark time just from events"
This is how it started in places away from the equator. Seasonal changes such as deadly winters were enough to force cultures to anticipate the next cold time, and "How many winters passed since x". This concern based on lethal conditions expanded into why northern Europe is culturally known for punctuality.
Its interesting to consider time as conceived of, or not, by cultures before our own. Although, in the deepest depths of human history, I doubt there has ever been a period where time or at least a passing awareness of its passing, a loose understanding of its sequences, would not have been fundamentally important. The best time to fetch water from the watering hole, is going to be the time where the fewest prey and predators are present. The time to make the journey across the mountains is when the snows do not fully cover the peak. The time to travel on the river in a boat is when there is enough current to carry you one way without tearing your boat apart, but not enough current that it cannot be overcome by the action of your oars. Though no name might be given to these periods, though they may be moveable and unmoored from precision, they are definite. That being said, these are not "times", but situations. The animals at the watering hole do not care what o'clock it is, they do what they will for reasons all their own. The weather cares not what hour, of what day, of what month it is, and does not provide or remove the snow from the mountain according to any schedule aside from its own. The river cannot be relied upon to be a certain depth or have a certain current, perfectly regularly. Rains, winds, drought, a heap of variables effect it. Situations, not time in abstract, would have been more important than dates and measurements, and a more reliable parameter to make decisions on the basis of, than arbitrary or even closely observed systems of measuring time.
One of my favorite episodes by far
LOVE these posts. Thank you so much.
The universe we inhabit is filled with cycles. Night becomes day, planets rotate around the Sun, seasons change, and so much more. We use these cycles to measure the passage of time, but like the universe's cycles, that was only the beginning."THE TIME NOW'
Always great material, but this is even better.
Is Anthony living in an Escher diagram?
Such a intellectual channel
You can tell by the low view count.
Great stuff Neil
In fact, our time is cyclical and helical. We move along the universe wholly in unison with the entire galactic plane and our galaxy moves along with all of spacetime. The big question is, how long can the expansion last?
I put the videos on and goto sleep listening to it
Only seen this episode now, but how cool does Anthony's bookshelf look
I'd like to hear more about both standard atomic clocks based on the vibration of an excited Cesium atom as well as quantum clocks.
Also I wonder what difference there would be in the sciences in the USA if they had switched to metric in the 70's. Does metric make science more accurate or easy to calculate measurements?
Great episode! I don’t know if anyone mentioned it in the comments, but I believe W. B. Yeats had this concept of ‘spiral time’, in a theosophical framework, though.
Question, How would we know what direction we're moving, especially if we we're moving backward's?
2 steps backwards, 1 step forward
I'm pushing 86, and in the mid 1960s seriously thought that immortality was just around the corner. Around 1975 the Government Printing Office published a pamphlet detailing the economic consequences of extended life spans including immortality, which made me wonder if the government was withholding the immortality pills, since immortality was not good for the economy, even if physical quality of life remained good.
I would choose immortality, but there's a lot to be said for knowing that I don't have to worry about worrying forever or even indefinitely.
Love this podcast 💯
I want to thank Neil deGrasse Tyson and the scientific method, for guiding me through my spiritual awakening.
Its quite a journey!
I don't want this episode to end....
The bit about aliens with no concept of time reminds me of The Prophets of Bajor in Star Trek Deep Space Nine, which exist outside of 4D spacetime. Presumably, this is what enabled them to construct the artificial wormhole between Bajor and the Gamma Quadrant, but also made (makes? will make? has been/is/will be making? "Temporal mechanics give me a headache.") them unable to understand the importance of time to temporal beings. A major plot point of the series premiere had Ben Sisko, as the Emissary to the Prophets, explaining how, for us, the past cannot be changed and what we do in the present determines our futures.