I’ve been driving manual FWD cars for years and though I’m worried, I am strongly considering a manual RWD car. This video is helping me decide to go for it.
That's the really satisfying aspect for me of driving my RWD manual transmission car, getting the braking, gear selection and rev matching done with a properly chosen line through a corner at speed.
@@alexbui91 when you see a turn ahead start to brake, downshift, build up your steering pressure once your rear wheels are past the apex, build off the steering pressure, while building the throttle pressure as you enter the next straight
Nice video, thanks. I have a 370Z sport coupe 6MT with the Synchro Rev Match feature. After playing with it initially, I went back to my heel and toe routine for braking and rev matching. I do the heel and toe without even thinking about it and I'm usually able to do it pretty smoothly, something that's very satisfying.
Ok I bought a RWD Dodge Challenger. Drove it for the first time in rain. Scariest experience of my life! Now I know it was likely because I have low profile tires but man alive! I couldn't go faster than 45. It felt so slippery and Shakey.
I am driving since over one year. Used to drive a FWD 125hp car as my daily, now thinking of buying a RWD BMW. I think you are right with understeering a FWD, once experienced that and its scary since you can pretty much only wait until you come to a stop.
@@Tibialstone7 bought an E92 shortly after. Owned more than 10 RWD BMWs since 2019, no incidents but a whole lot of driving pleasure and fun. Go for the RWD car :) sometimes it is a pain in the ass, especially in winter but apart from that it has been the best decision ever! Just don’t put crappy tires on the rear, you never know when you’ll need them.
This was helpful as I’ve driven manual front wheel drives for over 15 years. But...Just bought my first rear wheel drive Mustang and can’t for the life of me figure out ‘wtf’ lol. I’ve driven pickups, but that for landscape projects at home, fishing, etc...But as a daily? I’ve been completely lost and why I’ve been unable to control my new ride like I’ve been able to do the last 15 years. I KNEW something was up, and so you’re video should help.
Same. I got a Dodge Challenger with low profile tires. P225/55R22. It's slippery and Shakey and told it's because it's light in the ass end and the low profile tires don't help. So I guess the slip factor is just getting used to it.
JP 2099 : put some weights in the back . start with 100 lbs and see if that helps . if not add 50 more. i did that in my cadillac and it helped a bunch
@@jajajajenny6428 If you need to add 100-150 lbs to the back to make your car basically safe for you to drive, maybe just buy a fwd in the first place, no? Why burn the extra fuel just to make your car driveable? If you can't control it, then you definitely aren't going to enjoy driving it, so what benefit the rwd system?
I went from a Panamera Turbo to an F type S (400 special edition). So from AWD to RWD and I almost planted my car against a tree today. I have had many cars with lots of horsepower, but all were AWD. I can honestly say I am scared of my car, and love it at the same time.
What you were talking about being rough with the clutch and causing the wheels to slow down is also a technique is drifting. Locking the wheels will do the trick, but if you stay in, say third gear, and mid corner you push down the throttle and dip the clutch real quick then let it out fast but smoothly, the engine will speed up and cause the rear wheels to start spinning and will create oversteer. The name is called clutch kicking!
Love RWD cars. All my cars have been RWD, 2006 mazda mx5 auto, 2009 mazda mx5 auto, 2003 mazda rx8 manual, 2015 Subaru BRZ manual. So much fun to drive on a rainy day :-D
I’ve been driving rear wheel drive cars for most of my time driving, since the first car I ever owned, and continue to own, is a 2007 Dodge Charger, although I learned to drive on front wheel drive cars, and there are some slight differences; I personally prefer the rear wheel drive feeling except when it comes to powering through curves, where front wheel drive cars naturally have an advantage.
Great Video. Very helpful. Being driving a front wheel drive car, really want a rear wheel drive car now. But I want to drive it fast, but safe. I don't want my pride and joy in a hedge.
Get an automatic bmw if you can afford it, one with the ZF transmission which is AWESOME. If you don't have the family, get a BMW 2 Coupe, you can go fast with it without fear since it doesn't depend on your manual shift skills and let's you focus on the corners.
I progressed from hot FWD cars (GTi 2x, Acura CL Type S) to hot AWD cars (Audi S4) and now continue my drivers journey with hot a RWD car (340i MPPSK) so I appreciate learning some of the dynamics. I’ve left traction on initially while I learned the car (and once or twice it pulled me back from a hairy choice) but now that I’ve got a little more time with it (7k miles) I’m graduating to sometimes going Sport + (dulled traction control) and seeing what the car does, when and why. I do love it and I have to say aside from the crazy AWD launches this is the superior platform in all respects. It’s just so fun and feels so much more related to my inputs as a driver. FWD you just go to to the limit and understeer sets in, beat you can do is slow down (not what a driver wants to do when having fun) or if it’s a well balanced car you can induce a second of oversteer with throttle off, but it’s more to correct over cooking entry speed. AWD is fun, but even with true Quattro and the sports differential sending more to read the car never felt like I could rely on it to bring the back around in a corner. More so those elements at best were helping compensate for a nose that was trying very hard to how wide (understeer) and so to be fast it was usually brake in, accelerate out using the grip to get on it earlier. RWD on the third hand is like a dance. My 340i has a staggered setup so it’s actually more inclined to understeer initially. But with RWD once you find that edge you can gently use the throttle to dial the understeer back to neutral. And once you know where that is going to happen to you get there a fraction of a second early and actually hit the line perfectly. I’m not quite that good yet but I see the possibility. It also lets you get a smile here and there from tighter corners or over 90* because you can give it a small stab and tuck things around quickly. Not fast probably, but damn fun. Thanks for the video, I have some more things to chew on when pushing.
I'm getting my first car soon, a mx-5 nb. I was on a test drive yesterday and I noticed the rough shifting, but I thought it was just because I'm not used to driving a sports car. Now I know that this is only one of the reasons. At one point when I was rolling over a slippery area on the street I felt the rear wheels sliding a bit, but it never happened while driving through a corner (and the car had summer tires). So yeah, it's not that scary actually. Just gotta get used to the car
I've owned lots of FWD VW's and AWD Audi's. The only RWD car I've owned was an E46 325ci. Just got a 472hp Lexus IS500 and found this video looking for some lessons. Thanks for the video!
I did a bad downshift in the middle of a speedy corner in my new Miata the other day. Spun a bit one way then the other. Luckily was able to get control back pretty quick and didn't hurt anything. Still haven't quite got all the shifting down yet but I know not to make that mistake again.
James Swift That was my mistake. I've got rev matching down pretty well now after 3 weeks of driving the car. Next thing to learn is heel and toe downshifts.
badWolfe42 I still haven't become fully confident at heel-and-toe in my Mx5 even tho I've had it for 6 months, I had a very similar experience to you when I first got it though where I got some snap oversteer and actually managed to spin 180° because I lifted off too much - learnt my lesson from that
Been a long time since I drove the rear wheel. Still my first experiences are rest drive and manual stick in The Philippines. Yes, wet weather is a challenge. Driving this one is like a bull holding it by the horn as steer. Be mindful that you are driving a rear drive.
Im watching this because i wanna buy a manual z06 or mustang and im so use to my fast fwd cars where i can floor it around a turn and not fishtail into a pole when i takeoff
This is the classic way to handle understeer (loss of front wheel grip) -- unwind the steering wheel and let up on the gas. For oversteer, steer in the direction you want to go.
FWD and RWD are both good platforms, but front wheel drive cars can only do so much. If you think about it the front tires only have a limited and set amount of traction, as the speed of the vehicle increases and as one corners that set amount of traction steadily declines. If you're going around a corner and you know the car is on the edge of traction you know it is foolish to increase the amount of power to the wheels or request more steering angle. If you're going around a corner there is a limit to the amount of power you can send to the wheels as well as the amount of angle you can send to the wheels before understeer rears its ugly head. The combined function of steering angle and power delivery make FWD more prone to understeer. That doesn't mean that you can go infinitely fast through a corner just because the front wheels have only one task, what it means is that it is impossible for the front tires to break traction from a throttle request because that power is being sent to the rear rather than the front. If you soak some pavement in water and do a burnout with a FWD car, it is impossible to steer so power neither directional input can be expressed regardless of the true speed of the car. The car is technically going 0 miles an hour, however this can happen while in motion. RWD is superior in this aspect because the front tires will never break traction from a throttle request, but they may break traction from steering angle requests at particular speeds. Basically, going slowly around a tight corner on a rainy day in a FWD and punch the gas mid corner and you're likely to go off the road and possibly into the driver's side of the car in the other lane, you weren't going fast at all but because the steering tires are acting like they are ( basically accelerating) you combine an extreme steering angle with a lot of torque. Do the same thing in a RWD car and you'll oversteer and if you don't correct it you could end up in the other lane just the same. Any interaction regarding moving the car increases the likelihood of understeer in a FWD car and the more violent those interactions the more that likelihood increases. In a RWD car the front tires are only meant to point the car in a new direction and roll, the total amount of traction you have available for the front tires is higher because they are being spun by the ground instead of a powerful engine. There is also the other argument about tire wear on fwd cars as well.
I bought a BMW 135i 1 series pretty tuned almost 450+ hp I was still learning the car got to cocky and lost control and totaled it watching this for next time
I've just brought a brand new BMW m140i I think I need a lesson or two on how to drive the thing, not sure how far to go with the thing. It's a great engine and gear box but not sure about..... in my case its driver.
Hahaha the 140i is the most exciting hot hatch but my god it's scary with how tail happy it is. Glad I got a 340i instead, turns out to be a lot more stable and easier to drive because you can push it to the limits and throw it in and out of corners with a lot more confidence.
So would you consider a newer RWD with AT and TC, as safe as a FWD for people who don't know driving dynamics ? At least in my area they crash everyday when it rains in their RWD (F150 specially), FWD they just do MUCH better.
I think you really have to push it a lot to have an understeer problem with fwd. Maybe it's because I drived fwd all my life but you can enter corners very fast and still have good grip with trail breaking. RWD's always scared me. Probably because I'm not used to driving them
Occasionally I would try to practice heel and toe downshifting but I either press the brake harder or softer as I try twist my foot. I can't get the braking consistent and smooth. Any tips?
The way I get around it sometimes is that I slow down with the brake and during that I put the car in neutral, once I get slow enough and am near the turn, I put the clutch in, shift to the desired gear, rev match, let off the clutch in a controlled but concise manner and off I go. Only thing is you need to be very quick on the pedals to be able to do it all safely, I don’t have very good stability to keep my braking smooth and apply throttle at the same time, but I can move my feet very quickly to the point where it’s just as good
kipzonderkop1994 I usually do that but I wanted to just take my driving to the next level! An update though, been able to heel and toe one time and it felt muad!!! Fked up after that though but progress still!
To me, rear wheel drive cars are much much better than front wheel drive cars. Literally anyone can learn how to handle a rear wheel drive or front wheel drive. Between the two, rear wheel drive cars give the driver more control and much more handling characteristics than front wheel drive cars regardless of weather. Understand your vehicle and what it can and cannot do and literally there is no reason to own a front wheel drive car.
More solid content! My only niggle is the audio where you capture a lot of wind noise and there was a fair amount of clipping and crackling when you started recording in the car
Switching soon from a 2017 stock Ford focus se to a 06 Lexus gs430 with bc coilovers, with swift springs 16k front 10k back on 20 inch gtr tires. Has rear Megan toe and control bars along with sway bars. Any tips or notes or just helpful information would be appreciated.
He’s not dead. Woah. 😂 still can’t believe they let you use that car.. you yobo. Great video, quite interesting. Keep em coming. “My name has been alex...” it won’t be alex next time.
I drive a FWD and I'm thinking on buying a RWD. 3 Times my car suffered from understeer, it was a bit scary the first time but it can be easily fixed. I never drived a RWD But I do prefer and I'm not sure about oversteer. I heard it is more hard to control but does it happen a lot of times? What I am saying is imagine im going on a high way and out of nowhere it occurs
Oversteer is much easier to control than understeer imo. If you oversteer just let off, and countersteer, as easy as that. Understeer is very scary to me, because it's usually caused by too much speed, which is usually too late to fix. A rwd car does oversteer more often than a fwd car does understeer, but however, it doesn't just happens out of nowhere on the highway. As long as you keep an appropriate speed and smooth inputs (steering, clutch, accelerator, and brakes), you'll be fine. And if you were able to fix the understeer, I think you're skilled enough, and have good enough reflexes to drive a rwd car. Also, the good thing about rwd cars is that you can try oversteer in a parking lot or somewhere else safely so you know what to expect. With fwd, you just wait until it happens to see if you die or not lmao
I'm planning on buying a BMW 3 series gran limousine and I'm super scared coz it's not only RWD but also has 50:50 weight distribution. Should I be worried about driving in the rain on highways?!
Nah don't let it scare you, just means you should be a lot more critical about tyre choice (make sure they're a high wet rating) and don't let them get near bald tread. Take it easy when the rain gets heavy and back the speed down for a bit until you get a feel for how the car reacts to puddles even at slower speeds. Get some skid pan lessons if possible too, will give you endlessly more confidence in the car. GL! :)
Hmm. I traded in my wrx for a miata. I feel less comfortable pushing the limits of traction accelerating out of corners, definitely seems a bit sketchier by comparison. I wonder if it's actually just a difference in tires though.
Compared to your WRX with awd and more weight, the Miata will definitely be more lively with the power down coming out of corners. Especially slow speed. Your wrx could take full gas with lots of steering angle in second or even first gear, where a miata will want to step the back out. Just gotta be smoother (gas and steering) on the middle and exit of fast corners.
I spun out my fwd drive civic in the rain with traction control turned off. It was the first day I had it & idk why I was doing that but yea oops anyways is it possible to drive that through the rain? Am I a dumbass for not being able to control it or what
Just lost control of my corvette and am lucky to have not have hit anybody but fuck was it scary. Whatever direction the car is turning towards is it safe to turn it immediately in the other direction, smash the gas pedal and turn the wheel back into straight?
So if I turned on traction control or DSC, would it be safe around wet corners? I'm gonna buy a rwd car. And my whole life I've been driving a fwd car.
Ive been driving for some years now with only cheap cars (FWD) and Im getting the BMW 230I in January, my first sports car with RWD. Im scared as fuck dude
EDIT: Changed to the 220I because the taxes in my country are out of the place and I can always stage 1 tune it down the road. And ye dont worry I know, it will perform like the 230I but it wont have the reliability that the 230I offers. That said I test drived the 220I and the car was continually screaming to me how it wanted more. It wanted to race, it wanted to go all out, and I just couldnt because of traffic, speed limits, cameras, etc... So that said 220I was perfect for me
I’ve been driving manual FWD cars for years and though I’m worried, I am strongly considering a manual RWD car. This video is helping me decide to go for it.
JeremyTD Go for it . I own a Fusion tdci ,2005 plate , second whip gotta be a salon / sedan , Lexus 1997 plate .
Lol, my dad really decided that it would be a great idea to have my first car be a manual RWD 💀 Did you ever end up getting anything tho?
@@hella_randoms7289 I think he opted for a RWD car, went sideways once, and was never heard from again. Tragic outcome.
@@uptown3636 How very devastating 😔 Tragic one must say 😭
RIP Jeremy😞🕊
I only watched this after I spun out in my RWD, should have looked this up before, haha.
That's why I'm here too because I spun out on my Jeep 🥴 lol
Lol, same, just spun out in my e30
lol same, got loose in my g35
I started to slide around a turn and over corrected like 3 times and then went off the road
Put my commodore VF in a ditch. Now I’m here
Just gotta drive smoothly👍 unless you want to slide, that's the best part of having a RWD car 😁 Great video, glad to see you back!
That's the really satisfying aspect for me of driving my RWD manual transmission car, getting the braking, gear selection and rev matching done with a properly chosen line through a corner at speed.
Nah it’s not fun it’s scary sometimes when u don’t know how to drift
@@KingDiamondBonesexactly bro practice with powersliding on empty streets with traction on you learn real quick
If in doubt slow in fast out, rinse and repeat.
initial D?
What does tbat mean
@@alexbui91 when you see a turn ahead start to brake, downshift, build up your steering pressure once your rear wheels are past the apex, build off the steering pressure, while building the throttle pressure as you enter the next straight
Nice video, thanks. I have a 370Z sport coupe 6MT with the Synchro Rev Match feature. After playing with it initially, I went back to my heel and toe routine for braking and rev matching. I do the heel and toe without even thinking about it and I'm usually able to do it pretty smoothly, something that's very satisfying.
Great car lad. Definitely something that gets easier over time and eventually becomes fully natural. Feels weird not doing it to me these days
Ok I bought a RWD Dodge Challenger. Drove it for the first time in rain. Scariest experience of my life! Now I know it was likely because I have low profile tires but man alive! I couldn't go faster than 45. It felt so slippery and Shakey.
I mean it is a boat
@@zavi247 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏽
@@zavi247 imagine buying a challenger and pretend that it can turn
@@zavi247 😂😂Fr he should’ve been boolin in the rain
just drove my rwd mustang for the first time in the rain. definitely scared the shit out of my friend
Good reminder about shifting smoothly, one mistake can cause you to lose traction unexpectedly.
Cars like Mustangs/M class BMWs (looking at you M3) seem particularly excitable on the 1st to 2nd gear changes haha
I am driving since over one year. Used to drive a FWD 125hp car as my daily, now thinking of buying a RWD BMW. I think you are right with understeering a FWD, once experienced that and its scary since you can pretty much only wait until you come to a stop.
I am in exactly the same boat as you! 5 years later, what did you end up doing? Did you go for the RWD BMW? Thank you! :)
@@Tibialstone7 bought an E92 shortly after. Owned more than 10 RWD BMWs since 2019, no incidents but a whole lot of driving pleasure and fun. Go for the RWD car :) sometimes it is a pain in the ass, especially in winter but apart from that it has been the best decision ever! Just don’t put crappy tires on the rear, you never know when you’ll need them.
@@atlasblue1978 This is so helpful, thank you very much mate! I am gonna take your advice :)
This was helpful as I’ve driven manual front wheel drives for over 15 years. But...Just bought my first rear wheel drive Mustang and can’t for the life of me figure out ‘wtf’ lol.
I’ve driven pickups, but that for landscape projects at home, fishing, etc...But as a daily? I’ve been completely lost and why I’ve been unable to control my new ride like I’ve been able to do the last 15 years.
I KNEW something was up, and so you’re video should help.
Same. I got a Dodge Challenger with low profile tires. P225/55R22. It's slippery and Shakey and told it's because it's light in the ass end and the low profile tires don't help. So I guess the slip factor is just getting used to it.
JP 2099 : put some weights in the back . start with 100 lbs and see if that helps . if not add 50 more. i did that in my cadillac and it helped a bunch
are i serious
@@jajajajenny6428 If you need to add 100-150 lbs to the back to make your car basically safe for you to drive, maybe just buy a fwd in the first place, no? Why burn the extra fuel just to make your car driveable? If you can't control it, then you definitely aren't going to enjoy driving it, so what benefit the rwd system?
I went from a Panamera Turbo to an F type S (400 special edition). So from AWD to RWD and I almost planted my car against a tree today. I have had many cars with lots of horsepower, but all were AWD. I can honestly say I am scared of my car, and love it at the same time.
and its for this reason I cannot get out of an AWD car lol ....
What you were talking about being rough with the clutch and causing the wheels to slow down is also a technique is drifting. Locking the wheels will do the trick, but if you stay in, say third gear, and mid corner you push down the throttle and dip the clutch real quick then let it out fast but smoothly, the engine will speed up and cause the rear wheels to start spinning and will create oversteer. The name is called clutch kicking!
Clutch kick is well known yeah
To drift low power RWD
He was giving the basics tho
Love RWD cars. All my cars have been RWD, 2006 mazda mx5 auto, 2009 mazda mx5 auto, 2003 mazda rx8 manual, 2015 Subaru BRZ manual. So much fun to drive on a rainy day :-D
I’ve been driving rear wheel drive cars for most of my time driving, since the first car I ever owned, and continue to own, is a 2007 Dodge Charger, although I learned to drive on front wheel drive cars, and there are some slight differences; I personally prefer the rear wheel drive feeling except when it comes to powering through curves, where front wheel drive cars naturally have an advantage.
Great Video. Very helpful. Being driving a front wheel drive car, really want a rear wheel drive car now. But I want to drive it fast, but safe. I don't want my pride and joy in a hedge.
Get an automatic bmw if you can afford it, one with the ZF transmission which is AWESOME. If you don't have the family, get a BMW 2 Coupe, you can go fast with it without fear since it doesn't depend on your manual shift skills and let's you focus on the corners.
@@ΧρήστοςΔενέχεισημασία with or without x drive?
Just be smooth, even when i started sliding on accident i was smooth and relaxed> you freak out then your car freaks out
wait don't u mean you car freaks out when you freak out
@@josiahvalle he said then not when
@@rahulray5411 ah ok
That last sentence is how i went into a ditch
Taken me a year and a half to be comfortable wen the back end accidentally kicks out a lil bit 🤣
A quick tips for those out there and for me too: make pushups and bars and the steer will feel 100% more responsive. Thank me later 😉
I progressed from hot FWD cars (GTi 2x, Acura CL Type S) to hot AWD cars (Audi S4) and now continue my drivers journey with hot a RWD car (340i MPPSK) so I appreciate learning some of the dynamics. I’ve left traction on initially while I learned the car (and once or twice it pulled me back from a hairy choice) but now that I’ve got a little more time with it (7k miles) I’m graduating to sometimes going Sport + (dulled traction control) and seeing what the car does, when and why. I do love it and I have to say aside from the crazy AWD launches this is the superior platform in all respects. It’s just so fun and feels so much more related to my inputs as a driver. FWD you just go to to the limit and understeer sets in, beat you can do is slow down (not what a driver wants to do when having fun) or if it’s a well balanced car you can induce a second of oversteer with throttle off, but it’s more to correct over cooking entry speed. AWD is fun, but even with true Quattro and the sports differential sending more to read the car never felt like I could rely on it to bring the back around in a corner. More so those elements at best were helping compensate for a nose that was trying very hard to how wide (understeer) and so to be fast it was usually brake in, accelerate out using the grip to get on it earlier. RWD on the third hand is like a dance. My 340i has a staggered setup so it’s actually more inclined to understeer initially. But with RWD once you find that edge you can gently use the throttle to dial the understeer back to neutral. And once you know where that is going to happen to you get there a fraction of a second early and actually hit the line perfectly. I’m not quite that good yet but I see the possibility. It also lets you get a smile here and there from tighter corners or over 90* because you can give it a small stab and tuck things around quickly. Not fast probably, but damn fun.
Thanks for the video, I have some more things to chew on when pushing.
Good info! Nice car too !
Tf you doing here😂
Exotics lair into cars too?👀
Wtf exotics lair????
That car is better than your girlfriend
I'm getting my first car soon, a mx-5 nb. I was on a test drive yesterday and I noticed the rough shifting, but I thought it was just because I'm not used to driving a sports car. Now I know that this is only one of the reasons. At one point when I was rolling over a slippery area on the street I felt the rear wheels sliding a bit, but it never happened while driving through a corner (and the car had summer tires). So yeah, it's not that scary actually. Just gotta get used to the car
Nice vid, also really classy t-shirt you got there. Keep it up.
Hahaha, thank you dude
Paynos not so classy in the pocket
I've owned lots of FWD VW's and AWD Audi's. The only RWD car I've owned was an E46 325ci. Just got a 472hp Lexus IS500 and found this video looking for some lessons. Thanks for the video!
What a superb choice of car, love a V8 Lexus. Have fun with it and stay safe!
Just got my Camaro thanks for this
I did a bad downshift in the middle of a speedy corner in my new Miata the other day. Spun a bit one way then the other. Luckily was able to get control back pretty quick and didn't hurt anything. Still haven't quite got all the shifting down yet but I know not to make that mistake again.
don’t shift in corners bro
and rev match before the corner so you don't unsettle the rear end
James Swift That was my mistake. I've got rev matching down pretty well now after 3 weeks of driving the car. Next thing to learn is heel and toe downshifts.
badWolfe42 I still haven't become fully confident at heel-and-toe in my Mx5 even tho I've had it for 6 months, I had a very similar experience to you when I first got it though where I got some snap oversteer and actually managed to spin 180° because I lifted off too much - learnt my lesson from that
Well I was more unlucky and did a 360 and hit a pole in my na and now will need to replace my fender
I lost control of my mx5 na in the rain on the motorway on ramp and hit a pole. Now have to replace my fender.
Been a long time since I drove the rear wheel. Still my first experiences are rest drive and manual stick in The Philippines. Yes, wet weather is a challenge. Driving this one is like a bull holding it by the horn as steer. Be mindful that you are driving a rear drive.
I've just gone from a 1.4 na seat ibiza to a nissan 350z. If you drive sensibly it's so easy and fun to drive an rwd
Nice choice bro love the 350/370z’s 👌
Cool shirt+ Cool Abarth Spyder= smooth video!
good taste!
well, that was the beginning and end of my interest in rwd
Good vid mate as always
Learnt so much from this. Extremely educational. Thank you.
This guy gives great reviews
2006 Honda civic ex coupe to a 2006 mustang gt.... yes. I had to change my driving habits.
Mk2 mx5 as my second car from an economy fwd, thanks for the vid
Excellent video.
pretty useful tips on rev matching, thanks!
I can’t believe this video is a thing.
Im looking to get the abarth 124 and so happy i found this video it was exactlt what i was looking for😭
You'll love it! Seriously cool little car
cool vid. bout to hop from awd wrx to a miata, my first rwd car. hope i dont crash it!!! :)
S N A P O V E R S T E E R
He knows his shit guys!
Im watching this because i wanna buy a manual z06 or mustang and im so use to my fast fwd cars where i can floor it around a turn and not fishtail into a pole when i takeoff
Almost spun out my 300zx so im here now🎉
Well done for saving it! Lovely cars
If you're skidding DO NOT BRAKE...just let off the gas and counter steer it
And be ready for snap back! It got me. I'm sure TCS and Stability control would have helped :( Don't know what made me turn it off that day. Stupid.
This is the classic way to handle understeer (loss of front wheel grip) -- unwind the steering wheel and let up on the gas. For oversteer, steer in the direction you want to go.
Don't change gear during a corner, change before, simple enough, save you fucking up a downshift, also who changes gear mid corner anyway??
FWD and RWD are both good platforms, but front wheel drive cars can only do so much. If you think about it the front tires only have a limited and set amount of traction, as the speed of the vehicle increases and as one corners that set amount of traction steadily declines. If you're going around a corner and you know the car is on the edge of traction you know it is foolish to increase the amount of power to the wheels or request more steering angle. If you're going around a corner there is a limit to the amount of power you can send to the wheels as well as the amount of angle you can send to the wheels before understeer rears its ugly head. The combined function of steering angle and power delivery make FWD more prone to understeer. That doesn't mean that you can go infinitely fast through a corner just because the front wheels have only one task, what it means is that it is impossible for the front tires to break traction from a throttle request because that power is being sent to the rear rather than the front. If you soak some pavement in water and do a burnout with a FWD car, it is impossible to steer so power neither directional input can be expressed regardless of the true speed of the car. The car is technically going 0 miles an hour, however this can happen while in motion. RWD is superior in this aspect because the front tires will never break traction from a throttle request, but they may break traction from steering angle requests at particular speeds. Basically, going slowly around a tight corner on a rainy day in a FWD and punch the gas mid corner and you're likely to go off the road and possibly into the driver's side of the car in the other lane, you weren't going fast at all but because the steering tires are acting like they are ( basically accelerating) you combine an extreme steering angle with a lot of torque. Do the same thing in a RWD car and you'll oversteer and if you don't correct it you could end up in the other lane just the same. Any interaction regarding moving the car increases the likelihood of understeer in a FWD car and the more violent those interactions the more that likelihood increases. In a RWD car the front tires are only meant to point the car in a new direction and roll, the total amount of traction you have available for the front tires is higher because they are being spun by the ground instead of a powerful engine. There is also the other argument about tire wear on fwd cars as well.
very helpful, what argument tho?
Thanks buddy, real informative
I waited way too long to go RWD
I’ve just come from a awd Audi A4 to a Lexus GS rwd cvt 450h new experience for me.
I bought a BMW 135i 1 series pretty tuned almost 450+ hp I was still learning the car got to cocky and lost control and totaled it watching this for next time
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Some good tips. I bet that hard down shift without rev matching would be particularly bad if one has a nismo 2way lsd.
I've just brought a brand new BMW m140i I think I need a lesson or two on how to drive the thing, not sure how far to go with the thing.
It's a great engine and gear box but not sure about..... in my case its driver.
Hahaha the 140i is the most exciting hot hatch but my god it's scary with how tail happy it is. Glad I got a 340i instead, turns out to be a lot more stable and easier to drive because you can push it to the limits and throw it in and out of corners with a lot more confidence.
So would you consider a newer RWD with AT and TC, as safe as a FWD for people who don't know driving dynamics ? At least in my area they crash everyday when it rains in their RWD (F150 specially), FWD they just do MUCH better.
you finally got a decent car well done
Now do a AWD video
Cool - helps with my Z4 M40i - which always seems to be overtaking me...
I think you really have to push it a lot to have an understeer problem with fwd. Maybe it's because I drived fwd all my life but you can enter corners very fast and still have good grip with trail breaking. RWD's always scared me. Probably because I'm not used to driving them
Occasionally I would try to practice heel and toe downshifting but I either press the brake harder or softer as I try twist my foot. I can't get the braking consistent and smooth. Any tips?
Challenger160 just practice bro. Only way you get better at it
The way I get around it sometimes is that I slow down with the brake and during that I put the car in neutral, once I get slow enough and am near the turn, I put the clutch in, shift to the desired gear, rev match, let off the clutch in a controlled but concise manner and off I go.
Only thing is you need to be very quick on the pedals to be able to do it all safely, I don’t have very good stability to keep my braking smooth and apply throttle at the same time, but I can move my feet very quickly to the point where it’s just as good
kipzonderkop1994 I usually do that but I wanted to just take my driving to the next level! An update though, been able to heel and toe one time and it felt muad!!! Fked up after that though but progress still!
Challenger160 as long as there’s progress 🙌🏼,
Challenger160 Awesome stuff man. Just keep progressing
My rwd Stinger scares me even on dry pavement 😅
Wouldn’t awd be better for putting down power on bumpy roads?
Informative- thanks
Great video!
I have a stage 1 cupra but I’m thinking of getting a m140i but I’m low-key scared of a rear wheel drive 😂😂😂😂😂😂
good and to the point… you should make one on porsche behavior and also on
front engine rwd vs rear engine rwd
Great idea, absolutely love the way Porsches drive. Weird if you don't know how they work, amazing if you do
You're too young to know that all cars used to be rear wheel drive. Those new fangled front wheel drive cars just steer funny.
To me, rear wheel drive cars are much much better than front wheel drive cars. Literally anyone can learn how to handle a rear wheel drive or front wheel drive. Between the two, rear wheel drive cars give the driver more control and much more handling characteristics than front wheel drive cars regardless of weather. Understand your vehicle and what it can and cannot do and literally there is no reason to own a front wheel drive car.
Volvo 240
RWD but tend to understeer
Your videos was such a help... 1 more subscriber
Thanks
Sounds like a tigershark motor
came here out of curiosity after watching a video of a teenager crashing his new car twice in less than a minute at the snow
Looks like a 2019 mx5
Built in the same factory! Gets fiddled with a bit over in Italy by Abarth but that's it haha
More solid content! My only niggle is the audio where you capture a lot of wind noise and there was a fair amount of clipping and crackling when you started recording in the car
Switching soon from a 2017 stock Ford focus se to a 06 Lexus gs430 with bc coilovers, with swift springs 16k front 10k back on 20 inch gtr tires. Has rear Megan toe and control bars along with sway bars. Any tips or notes or just helpful information would be appreciated.
He’s not dead. Woah. 😂 still can’t believe they let you use that car.. you yobo. Great video, quite interesting. Keep em coming. “My name has been alex...” it won’t be alex next time.
Yes laddd
Maybe if you want to try rwd, then get a low horsepower rwd car?
Enjoying the videos m9 ;) keep up the good work!
Watching this since im thinking of getting a is350. Don’t know if I should go with awd or rwd
RWD Dodge Charger owner here, I have my first hour commute in the pouring rain 😭 nervous as hell!
Did you survive?
evidently not rip
@@RhysCPFC tragic 😥
Lol y’all are funny, I’m very much alive and well, thanks for asking
@@joystick396 haha good to hear
I drive a FWD and I'm thinking on buying a RWD. 3 Times my car suffered from understeer, it was a bit scary the first time but it can be easily fixed. I never drived a RWD But I do prefer and I'm not sure about oversteer. I heard it is more hard to control but does it happen a lot of times? What I am saying is imagine im going on a high way and out of nowhere it occurs
Oversteer is much easier to control than understeer imo.
If you oversteer just let off, and countersteer, as easy as that.
Understeer is very scary to me, because it's usually caused by too much speed, which is usually too late to fix.
A rwd car does oversteer more often than a fwd car does understeer, but however, it doesn't just happens out of nowhere on the highway.
As long as you keep an appropriate speed and smooth inputs (steering, clutch, accelerator, and brakes), you'll be fine.
And if you were able to fix the understeer, I think you're skilled enough, and have good enough reflexes to drive a rwd car. Also, the good thing about rwd cars is that you can try oversteer in a parking lot or somewhere else safely so you know what to expect. With fwd, you just wait until it happens to see if you die or not lmao
I love your explanations!! Thanks for putting in extra effort to get people like me to understand cars more !!! (I’m not very educated on cars lol)
Thx m8.
I'm planning on buying a BMW 3 series gran limousine and I'm super scared coz it's not only RWD but also has 50:50 weight distribution. Should I be worried about driving in the rain on highways?!
Nah don't let it scare you, just means you should be a lot more critical about tyre choice (make sure they're a high wet rating) and don't let them get near bald tread. Take it easy when the rain gets heavy and back the speed down for a bit until you get a feel for how the car reacts to puddles even at slower speeds.
Get some skid pan lessons if possible too, will give you endlessly more confidence in the car.
GL! :)
@@Paynos Sure, I will. Thank you 😄
Keep your eyes on the road 🙈
Next week I’m getting a 350z
Hmm. I traded in my wrx for a miata. I feel less comfortable pushing the limits of traction accelerating out of corners, definitely seems a bit sketchier by comparison. I wonder if it's actually just a difference in tires though.
Compared to your WRX with awd and more weight, the Miata will definitely be more lively with the power down coming out of corners. Especially slow speed. Your wrx could take full gas with lots of steering angle in second or even first gear, where a miata will want to step the back out. Just gotta be smoother (gas and steering) on the middle and exit of fast corners.
@@Paynos thanks! Makes sense.
I spun out my fwd drive civic in the rain with traction control turned off. It was the first day I had it & idk why I was doing that but yea oops anyways is it possible to drive that through the rain? Am I a dumbass for not being able to control it or what
Just lost control of my corvette and am lucky to have not have hit anybody but fuck was it scary. Whatever direction the car is turning towards is it safe to turn it immediately in the other direction, smash the gas pedal and turn the wheel back into straight?
drive slow and under the speed limit and you'll have no issues
you must not live in america
What’s the point of a rwd car if u do that
Bro my Altezza scares me every time it rains no matter how slow or careful i drive it slidesssss man. My mom told me to sell it lolol
get expensive tires and you'll be okay
So if I turned on traction control or DSC, would it be safe around wet corners? I'm gonna buy a rwd car. And my whole life I've been driving a fwd car.
traction control ON is defs safe. If the system is good, itll keep you going where you want to go (source: experience)
I feel like this car isn’t all that powerful. I have an m4 and it’s so lairy on the back wheels it feels like I’m on the edge all the time
downshift before cornering
Any Car can oversteer violently if you're committed enough If you don't Beleive ask my lancer with a broken front suspension arm that ended in a ditch
I just bought a r33 skyline gtst y am I watching this hahahahahah
They're rear wheel drive
Yeah idk what you are talking about
Is rear wheel drive dangerous in winter driving?
Not any more dangerous that any other car as long as you've got a good set of winter tyres on it!
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Ive been driving for some years now with only cheap cars (FWD) and Im getting the BMW 230I in January, my first sports car with RWD. Im scared as fuck dude
EDIT: Changed to the 220I because the taxes in my country are out of the place and I can always stage 1 tune it down the road. And ye dont worry I know, it will perform like the 230I but it wont have the reliability that the 230I offers. That said I test drived the 220I and the car was continually screaming to me how it wanted more. It wanted to race, it wanted to go all out, and I just couldnt because of traffic, speed limits, cameras, etc...
So that said 220I was perfect for me
Sunny?
So is this car he’s driving like a euro Miata? Don’t bash all my cars have been American v8s
Yeah! Its an ND Miata built by Mazda with a Fiat 1.4 turbo and fancy leather in it
i'm here because i wnt to buy a mustang
Do with caution mines is very sketchy in the rain ☔️ and its a S550 v6